This is a second part to my video from the gold refining. In this video I refine and recover silver and copper from the leftover waste from my previous gold refining video.
I see a lot of people use those "bent to broken" copper pipes to pull silver out. But remember, the solution reacts with BOTH sides of the pipe, outside and inside. The precipitated silver falls off of the outside of the pipe, but when it falls off of the inside of the pipes, it can get trapped in the pinched off ends. I usually bend to break the pipe, then take a hammer to the pinched ends to open them up a little so the precipitated silver on the inside of the pipes will fall out.
Great video, thanks for that. Would it make sense to rinse the silver powder again in hydrochloric acid after filtering and then with distilled water to wash out all impurities?
Çok güzel olmuş. Silver . Sadece . Sodyum klorür ile . Tuzlu su ile bakır dan ayristiriliyor biliyor dum . Oysa . Cuper boru larla silver çok güzel çöktü teşekkürler
How did you get all the silver out of the inside of the pipes? You put in copper pipes with the ends nearly pinched off, so any silver nitrate that got into the pipes cemented out and became stuck inside the pipe. Using a pipe cutter to cut the pipes is preferable to just bending the pipes until they break.
When the silver comes out of solution and covers the copper it can stall the reaction. The silver coating will block the silver nitrate from getting to the copper and prevents further silver from cementing out. Instead of pulling out the remaining copper, filtering it and moving on I would have shaken the copper pieces periodically to expose the bare copper and allowed more silver to cement out. I’m pretty sure you didn’t get all of the silver out of solution.
Thanks for this video. Very easy process of metal separation. What kind of solution are you using to dissolve gold, silver, copper? Ex: nitric acid, or sodium nitrate and HCL, or sodium nitrate and sulfuric acid?
EXCELLENT.hey sir am working by photo chemical waste but wanna work more in quantity meant that wanna get other chemical rather cu.What do u think that I will try first the photo chemical waste precipitated by nas then add cu...is it really good way.
Thank you so much. I’m not sure what you mean by Nas. You mean North American steel? What ever you put in, any metal higher on the reactivity series of metals will precipitate out of solution. 👍
Thanks for this! I am using 45% vinegar with Hydrogen Peroxide and some salt to remove gold from computer parts. As I am new to this can I extract the silver the same way and use a steel bar to get out the copper from the solution?
That's the same stage I'm at ended up with one gallon bottle of blue liquid with some powdered Brandon is at the bottom when I don't know what to do at this point I'm two years in with a one-year 8-month pause in between due to the solution that dried out into a clump got put in the closet and forgot about I just recently pulled it out
Sir i have problem in extraction of copper metal from my waste nitrate solution, When i add iron plate to my nitrate solution iron hydroxide is precipitated instead of copper metal, why this happened and how to avoid it?
With your fumehood, where do you vent to? i assume being acid fumes you shouldnt just vent out a window at headhight just waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk past and cop a face full of hydrocloric or nitric acid fumes to the face. I'm wanting to build my own and i'm hung up on what to do with the other end of the vent! please help!!!
It's OK to vent directly to outside as long as it's not directly by a sidewalk or something. There are scrubbers you can buy, but they're expensive and unnecessary for this kind of thing. The fumes diffuse into the surrounding air really quickly.
Whatever that cloud was in your original solution ended up in your silver. My guess is AgCl. Settle it out and decant if it won't clear up with Nitric. No additional HCl as silver chloride isn't soluble and the silver needs to be in solution for cementing to work. Once you've got it clear, *then* do the drop and your dropped silver will be fairly pure after wash. If you want more pure than that, you'll need to involve electrolysis (silver cell). Same applies for copper, except you can acidify copper solutions with HCl since CuCl2 is soluble. If you're *into* electrolysis, copper is easy to recover if the heavier metals are gone first. Using a special type of electrolysis (electrowinning), where a carbon rod serves as the posode, the solution is "driven clean" and all of the copper is deposited out on the cathode for harvest. Low and slow, nice clean take. You can do this with silver as well but slow is key if copper is present. It will also want to go to the cathode with the silver but if the power is set up right, it can still separate them. With copper it can go quicker generally speaking. The metals "above" hydrogen will tend to take higher voltages to come out, so careful selection for the target metal is still useful, but in general hydrogen will be evolved preferentially from solution so many of them will stay in solution. EW is fun to mess with. TLDR; Either way you only want to drop/run in clear solutions or you're somewhat wasting your time. I'd acidify if there's any question, and let it that starting solution settle, decant it and then cement the silver. Filter off the silver, settle solution if needed (or acidify with a little heat, should only be silver metal in suspension now), and electrowin the copper out. If the voltage and current limits are set appropriately, you will have copper plating/crystal growth on the negode and all the metals above hydrogen in solution.
I use a medium grade filter to filter my silver nitrate solution and it is blue a crystal clear. I make sure there is some unreacted silver left or add some sterling silver to make sure the nitric acid is consumed. I use copper pipes and wash out the center of the pipe. Works well for me.
I’m removing silver plate from dishes and such. Using sulfuric acid instead of nitric do I have to use lye and sugar or can I nutralize with distilled water and throw copper in it and get silver cement?
Correct. Anytime you cement out a metal there will always be other metals in solution that will come out also. Sugar and lye method yields 99.9 purity when done correctly 👍
hello, i have a suggestion of a process that you can do that will make it so you can recover the nitric acid and the copper with sulfuric acid, it is in a video by NurdRage on youtube that explains how to recover both the copper metal and the nitric acid, the down side is that you will need a distilling apparatus and a electrolysing cell(lab power supply), the video name is "Efficiently Recover Nitric Acid and Copper Metal From Copper Nitrate Wastes" by NurdRage, this will reduce the amount of waste solution you have.
@@ryans3442 copper sulfate is also a saleable product, but in many ways is easier to plate out with electrolysis, but yes iron nitrate can be used as a fertilizer supplement but the more useful nitrate are for that is potassium nitrate(saltpeter), any ways there is allot of waste products that can be made in to a useful product in the end, ideally we don't want any waste when dealing with chemicals and only have useful end products.
@@93matarlcan you read my comment that I just previously married maybe you can help me with that as well identifying what I created or what I produced with the steps that I took
ممكن سؤال لو سمحت انا عايز اعرف إسم المواد عشان الذهب الابيض ايريديوم إسم الماء الملكي عشان ايريديوم الذهب الابيض واسم المواد الكيمياء عشان الترسيب ايريديوم وشكراا جداا
NICE VIDEO. JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT FLUX IS USED FOR SILVER SOLDERING. FOR GOLD IT'S BORAX. ALSO DOES SILVER HAVE GRADES LIKE GOLD, 24K, 22K, ETC. THANKS
Silver usually just comes as a percentage of purity. Like 92.5 is 92.5 percent pure silver. Anything at this percent and above is considered sterling silver. They do not use karats like gold however it is essentially the same thing since 18k gold is just a way to say 75% pure gold.
@@jandlcrafting1332 Appreciate The Quick Response/Answer. So Any Silver Item Which Has A Silver Content Below " 92.5% " Is Considered As/ToBe Sterling Silver. Is There A Grading In Sterling Silver ❓ THANKS.
@@narendrakhona1168 no, any silver with less then 92.5 is not sterling silver. It must be at least 92.5% to be considered sterling silver, any less and it doesn’t meet the standard set by I forgot which king. Was it Henry?
Engineer, I had a question. Please help me. What acid does silver sulfide dissolve in so that I can extract it from the rock? How should I convert silver sulfide to silver metal? 🙏🙏🙏
Silver sulfide should be soluble in either nitric acid or sulfuric acid. From that point on you can use the method in my video using hydrochloric acid or salt👍
Hello Professor, silver sulfide does not dissolve in nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, and I did not understand the solution, please tell me in which acid to dissolve silver sulfide and with what to precipitate it, please
If I could pick your brain for a second. I have a bottle of solution that is a dark blue. I started originally trying to recover some precious metals from e-waste. I had in a glass jar that ended up breaking and at that point the solution had solidified and everything was encased in a mud of sort of chalky goo plaster. Then the jar broke at some point and I swept everything up put into a aluminum metal coffee can and kind of put in the closet and forgot about it. Fast-forward two years to current current time. I have rehydrated the material from computer chips cell phone pieces and other miscellaneous contact points. Today I have a bottle of the blue solution like I said with (3) different colored layers in it. There's 1. whitish grayish layer thickest layer 2. Cooper colored layer 1/3 size thickness of layer 1. 3. Golden tinted layer 1/3 size as layer 1. I know I said three layers but I really don't consider this one a layer more of a film, but by All rights we could call it a layer for. When viewing the bottle from the side which is a clear one gallon water jug. I can visually see three sedimentary layers three lines of division of the material. 4. Is a thin golden colored film layer. What could they veer? I never incorporated or introduced any metal pieces bars bolts or pipe to the solution is not set in direct sunlight but it is on the balcony Nevada desert shade but it still gets hot I guess I keep the bottle closed and sealed with a cap but the layers have settled out at the bottom if I decant the liquid and end up with just the granule is at the bottom. How would I go about trying to figure out what they are or could I do something to help simplify the process I don't have access to strong chemicals the solution itself with vinegar peroxide and salt I think and there was a small handful of E-Waste I have accumulated to just do a test run and would love to know what to do so I can process the rest any help would be appreciated thank you
@@jandlcrafting1332 You're saying there was originally Silver AND Copper in solution, and you used pure copper to take out the silver which left the original copper in solution and added to it as well?
Yes. So with enough nitric acid it will first dissolve the copper, then once the copper is gone it will then start dissolving the silver, putting both into solution. Then just adding more copper will cause the silver to fall out.
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I see a lot of people use those "bent to broken" copper pipes to pull silver out.
But remember, the solution reacts with BOTH sides of the pipe, outside and inside.
The precipitated silver falls off of the outside of the pipe, but when it falls off of the inside of the pipes, it can get trapped in the pinched off ends.
I usually bend to break the pipe, then take a hammer to the pinched ends to open them up a little so the precipitated silver on the inside of the pipes will fall out.
Thank you... I'd love to see more of these...
Live n let diiiiiiiiieee great song. Enjoyed the video
congratulations!!
New sub here. Awesome video! Would love to see more silver and gold refining! Thank you for the video!
I will be posting more soon thanks a lot.
@@jandlcrafting1332 Awesome!!! Looking forward to any new videos!
thanx for sharing your sir about extracting silver and copper from a solution.. very educational and easy..
No problem!
Great video, thanks for that. Would it make sense to rinse the silver powder again in hydrochloric acid after filtering and then with distilled water to wash out all impurities?
Thanks for sharing this video
No problem. Thanks for watching.
Thank you
This is wonderful
Thanks
@@jandlcrafting1332 Hello Great Videos. Question ? How do I remove copper ions out of my gold chloride ions liquid solution ? Thank you
Çok güzel olmuş. Silver . Sadece . Sodyum klorür ile . Tuzlu su ile bakır dan ayristiriliyor biliyor dum . Oysa . Cuper boru larla silver çok güzel çöktü teşekkürler
Awesome
How did you get all the silver out of the inside of the pipes? You put in copper pipes with the ends nearly pinched off, so any silver nitrate that got into the pipes cemented out and became stuck inside the pipe. Using a pipe cutter to cut the pipes is preferable to just bending the pipes until they break.
Did you melt the copper in the same furnace? Mine doesnt seem to get it done
Dear friend to get Palladium if formic acid is not available, can you use hydrochloric acid instead?
When the silver comes out of solution and covers the copper it can stall the reaction. The silver coating will block the silver nitrate from getting to the copper and prevents further silver from cementing out. Instead of pulling out the remaining copper, filtering it and moving on I would have shaken the copper pieces periodically to expose the bare copper and allowed more silver to cement out. I’m pretty sure you didn’t get all of the silver out of solution.
Ok cool. Thanks for the advice.
Copper process before use HCL acid
Take the silver chloride after out put solutions u add copper plat
Then you see
But urea mixed definitely
what
@brandonzidzik, that's what I said!
@@jandlcrafting1332how harmful is this reaction and also i saw that this reaction creates nitrogen gas but where is it
Thanks for this video. Very easy process of metal separation. What kind of solution are you using to dissolve gold, silver, copper? Ex: nitric acid, or sodium nitrate and HCL, or sodium nitrate and sulfuric acid?
I normally just use aqua regia. Nitric acid and HCL. 👍
@@jandlcrafting1332 Thanks, your advice helps me alot.
@@jandlcrafting1332 how do you drop gold in aqua regia solution, what metal do you use to drop gold?
Any metals higher on the reactivity series of metals such as copper 👍
Good morning, what acidity is recommended for the best reaction,,,,,,,,Buongiorno, che acidità è consigliata per la reazione migliore
I'm so fascinated with chemistry that's is fun and can make some money from old copper pipes
what pH do you get your solutions to?
great videos, but they would be even better if you could include some brief summaries of the exact chemical reactions going on.
EXCELLENT.hey sir am working by photo chemical waste but wanna work more in quantity meant that wanna get other chemical rather cu.What do u think that I will try first the photo chemical waste precipitated by nas then add cu...is it really good way.
Thank you so much. I’m not sure what you mean by Nas. You mean North American steel? What ever you put in, any metal higher on the reactivity series of metals will precipitate out of solution. 👍
the solution to this nitric acid and copper only how many silver can i rcover with 1 kg of copper?
Thanks for this! I am using 45% vinegar with Hydrogen Peroxide and some salt to remove gold from computer parts. As I am new to this can I extract the silver the same way and use a steel bar to get out the copper from the solution?
Absolutely. Once you get a metal in solution, just use a metal higher on the reactivity series of metal to cement it out👍
That's the same stage I'm at ended up with one gallon bottle of blue liquid with some powdered Brandon is at the bottom when I don't know what to do at this point I'm two years in with a one-year 8-month pause in between due to the solution that dried out into a clump got put in the closet and forgot about I just recently pulled it out
Sir i have problem in extraction of copper metal from my waste nitrate solution,
When i add iron plate to my nitrate solution iron hydroxide is precipitated instead of copper metal, why this happened and how to avoid it?
3:52 you have a duck running around making quacking noises for some good reason lol
With your fumehood, where do you vent to? i assume being acid fumes you shouldnt just vent out a window at headhight just waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk past and cop a face full of hydrocloric or nitric acid fumes to the face.
I'm wanting to build my own and i'm hung up on what to do with the other end of the vent! please help!!!
It's OK to vent directly to outside as long as it's not directly by a sidewalk or something. There are scrubbers you can buy, but they're expensive and unnecessary for this kind of thing. The fumes diffuse into the surrounding air really quickly.
How can I convert silver oxide into metal electrically?
Whatever that cloud was in your original solution ended up in your silver. My guess is AgCl.
Settle it out and decant if it won't clear up with Nitric. No additional HCl as silver chloride isn't soluble and the silver needs to be in solution for cementing to work.
Once you've got it clear, *then* do the drop and your dropped silver will be fairly pure after wash. If you want more pure than that, you'll need to involve electrolysis (silver cell).
Same applies for copper, except you can acidify copper solutions with HCl since CuCl2 is soluble.
If you're *into* electrolysis, copper is easy to recover if the heavier metals are gone first. Using a special type of electrolysis (electrowinning), where a carbon rod serves as the posode, the solution is "driven clean" and all of the copper is deposited out on the cathode for harvest. Low and slow, nice clean take.
You can do this with silver as well but slow is key if copper is present. It will also want to go to the cathode with the silver but if the power is set up right, it can still separate them. With copper it can go quicker generally speaking. The metals "above" hydrogen will tend to take higher voltages to come out, so careful selection for the target metal is still useful, but in general hydrogen will be evolved preferentially from solution so many of them will stay in solution. EW is fun to mess with.
TLDR; Either way you only want to drop/run in clear solutions or you're somewhat wasting your time.
I'd acidify if there's any question, and let it that starting solution settle, decant it and then cement the silver. Filter off the silver, settle solution if needed (or acidify with a little heat, should only be silver metal in suspension now), and electrowin the copper out. If the voltage and current limits are set appropriately, you will have copper plating/crystal growth on the negode and all the metals above hydrogen in solution.
I use a medium grade filter to filter my silver nitrate solution and it is blue a crystal clear. I make sure there is some unreacted silver left or add some sterling silver to make sure the nitric acid is consumed. I use copper pipes and wash out the center of the pipe. Works well for me.
Fill like I came into the middle here.what is solution and where did gold and silver come from
Which solution you dropping copper rod
I’m removing silver plate from dishes and such. Using sulfuric acid instead of nitric do I have to use lye and sugar or can I nutralize with distilled water and throw copper in it and get silver cement?
You can definitely cement out the silver with copper in a silver sulfate solution 👍
@@jandlcrafting1332 I assume it won’t be as pure of silver as when lye and sugar is used
Correct. Anytime you cement out a metal there will always be other metals in solution that will come out also. Sugar and lye method yields 99.9 purity when done correctly 👍
Very good furnace (electrical). where can we buy it?
I got it off Amazon 👍
@@jandlcrafting1332 Thank you
hello,
i have a suggestion of a process that you can do that will make it so you can recover the nitric acid and the copper with sulfuric acid,
it is in a video by NurdRage on youtube that explains how to recover both the copper metal and the nitric acid,
the down side is that you will need a distilling apparatus and a electrolysing cell(lab power supply),
the video name is "Efficiently Recover Nitric Acid and Copper Metal From Copper Nitrate Wastes" by NurdRage,
this will reduce the amount of waste solution you have.
Or one could just sun evaporate the end iron/junk solution to yeild FeNO3 as a nitrate source for your process or as a saleable product
@@ryans3442 copper sulfate is also a saleable product, but in many ways is easier to plate out with electrolysis, but yes iron nitrate can be used as a fertilizer supplement but the more useful nitrate are for that is potassium nitrate(saltpeter), any ways there is allot of waste products that can be made in to a useful product in the end, ideally we don't want any waste when dealing with chemicals and only have useful end products.
@@93matarlcan you read my comment that I just previously married maybe you can help me with that as well identifying what I created or what I produced with the steps that I took
ممكن سؤال لو سمحت انا عايز اعرف إسم المواد عشان الذهب الابيض ايريديوم إسم الماء الملكي عشان ايريديوم الذهب الابيض واسم المواد الكيمياء عشان الترسيب ايريديوم وشكراا جداا
Hello! What is used to separate copper from solution?
Iron
Where’s the gasket for the funnel?
NICE VIDEO.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT FLUX IS USED FOR SILVER SOLDERING.
FOR GOLD IT'S BORAX.
ALSO DOES SILVER HAVE GRADES LIKE GOLD, 24K, 22K, ETC. THANKS
I used borax with the silver as well
Silver usually just comes as a percentage of purity. Like 92.5 is 92.5 percent pure silver. Anything at this percent and above is considered sterling silver. They do not use karats like gold however it is essentially the same thing since 18k gold is just a way to say 75% pure gold.
@@jandlcrafting1332 Appreciate The Quick Response/Answer. So Any Silver Item Which Has A Silver Content Below " 92.5% " Is Considered As/ToBe Sterling Silver.
Is There A Grading In Sterling Silver ❓ THANKS.
@@narendrakhona1168 no, any silver with less then 92.5 is not sterling silver. It must be at least 92.5% to be considered sterling silver, any less and it doesn’t meet the standard set by I forgot which king. Was it Henry?
@@Laotzsa Thanks for the Explanation, & Quick Response.
Appreciate it Very Much
Engineer, I had a question. Please help me. What acid does silver sulfide dissolve in so that I can extract it from the rock? How should I convert silver sulfide to silver metal? 🙏🙏🙏
You can dissolve silver sulfate in household ammonia. Then precipitate pure metal with hydroxylamine sulfate 👍
@@jandlcrafting1332 Dear friend, I have silver sulfide, not silver sulfate. What should I use to extract silver sulfide???🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌺🌺
Silver sulfide should be soluble in either nitric acid or sulfuric acid. From that point on you can use the method in my video using hydrochloric acid or salt👍
Hello Professor, silver sulfide does not dissolve in nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, and I did not understand the solution, please tell me in which acid to dissolve silver sulfide and with what to precipitate it, please
Sulfides are roasted in air to produce so2+silver
Can cooper wire be used to get the silver out?
Yes
hi . Is that a nitric acid ?
Yes it is
@@jandlcrafting1332 OK thank you so much
How harmful is this reaction does it produce any gases
HOWDID YOU GET THEGOLD OUT FIRST
How I can separate copper from gold without losing any gold
Nitric acid would be the easiest and quickest way👍
@@jandlcrafting1332 but some gold lost with copper by nitric acid
Lake forest North Carolina
It's properly pronounced as Bu-sh-ner funnel.
The inside of those copper pipes will contain silver
If I could pick your brain for a second.
I have a bottle of solution that is a dark blue.
I started originally trying to recover some precious metals from e-waste. I had in a glass jar that ended up breaking and at that point the solution had solidified and everything was encased in a mud of sort of chalky goo plaster.
Then the jar broke at some point and I swept everything up put into a aluminum metal coffee can and kind of put in the closet and forgot about it.
Fast-forward two years to current current time.
I have rehydrated the material from computer chips cell phone pieces and other miscellaneous contact points.
Today I have a bottle of the blue solution like I said with (3) different colored layers in it.
There's
1. whitish grayish layer thickest layer
2. Cooper colored layer 1/3 size thickness of layer 1.
3. Golden tinted layer 1/3 size as layer 1.
I know I said three layers but I really don't consider this one a layer more of a film, but by All rights we could call it a layer for. When viewing the bottle from the side which is a clear one gallon water jug.
I can visually see three sedimentary layers three lines of division of the material.
4. Is a thin golden colored film layer.
What could they veer?
I never incorporated or introduced any metal pieces bars bolts or pipe to the solution is not set in direct sunlight but it is on the balcony Nevada desert shade but it still gets hot I guess I keep the bottle closed and sealed with a cap but the layers have settled out at the bottom if I decant the liquid and end up with just the granule is at the bottom. How would I go about trying to figure out what they are or could I do something to help simplify the process I don't have access to strong chemicals the solution itself with vinegar peroxide and salt I think and there was a small handful of E-Waste I have accumulated to just do a test run and would love to know what to do so I can process the rest any help would be appreciated thank you
Hi
Why couldn’t you go straight to the steel and skip the copper step?
If I did that then I would have ended up with a silver copper powder mixture. Steel would have cemented them both out at the same time.
@@jandlcrafting1332 You're saying there was originally Silver AND Copper in solution, and you used pure copper to take out the silver which left the original copper in solution and added to it as well?
Yes. So with enough nitric acid it will first dissolve the copper, then once the copper is gone it will then start dissolving the silver, putting both into solution. Then just adding more copper will cause the silver to fall out.
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Çok güzel olmuş. Silver . Sadece . Sodyum klorür ile . Tuzlu su ile bakır dan ayristiriliyor biliyor dum . Oysa . Cuper boru larla silver çok güzel çöktü teşekkürler
great videos, but they would be even better if you could include some brief summaries of the exact chemical reactions going on.
looking for Pt, Pd & Rh dore.