I'm new to the hang on stand and being mobile style hunting hunting but about tip #5. You aren't afraid to break the stand or bend the main tube by using a ratchet strap on the bottom instead of camlocking the stand to the tree using the top pull strap then pulling the the platform up and pushing it down on the seat area to allow the top atler bracket to dig into the tree thus supporting most the weight and it should stop that rocking back and forth on the bottom. i have limited experience hanging mine but was able to learn quite a bit of useful info on hanging mine from watching Jason on Traditional bowhunting and wilderness podcast. Just wanting your opinion because i have also thought about doing it the same way before. Thank you for the rest of the tips will definitely be using them for sure.
Hey Drew - you can certainly do the camlock technique. Sometimes it's just difficult to execute when your up in the tree and hanging the stand. Could be branches or just akward angles etc. I like the ratchet at that point because it provides a 2nd strap for safety and the ability to really stick it to that tree. I do not crank it so hard I think it will bend or break the stand. Just snugging it up tight so there is no rocking of the stand at all.
I think it’s good for people such as myself to learn from people with experience such as yourself. I appreciate the reply and will definitely see where this fits into my hunting. I have limited knowledge of hanging on different kinds of trees with different bark. Recently found it a bit more difficult to use sticks and stand on pines when the bark tends to break away so will keep an open mind for sure. Thank you for putting your knowledge thru experience for us to learn
Excellent video. Where I hunt in Utah and the high Sierra mountains in California. I can not do any branch trimming also the stand cannot be left unattended. Yup pack in pack out each day, what a pain.
Hey man great tips on the video! This is my first year hunting in general and hunting public is definitely a challenge. Just like you I’m self taught so these help so much
Adding the bottom cam strap and cranking it down is a sure fire way to crack the platform. Contact your stand manufacturer for proper hanging procedure if you think I’m wrong. A mild toe hook with one strap on the top button will properly set lone wolf style stands. You can then add a second loop style strap and snug to take out any side to side movement. The rest of your tips have merit.
Great video!! I love bow hunting I also had no mentor and had to learn all this on my own every tip you gave will be very helpful for new hunters. Great job on that buck in your video it's hard out here on public land. I'm from Missouri and I hunt public land also it is really difficult at times.
Good tips! Rather than cutting a lane often bungee cords or the spare haul rope can bend and hold branches etc out of the way.. often you can bend them to your advantage.. don't forget thermals.. up in the morning and down at last light if in the hills... another is SHOOT YOUR BOW!!! Not just a few days before bow opener...😁shoot (practice) from the height your stand will be...
Totally agree with your additional thoughts Man! A lot of times you can't trim out on public, so bungees work great! Also thermals are super important to consider when there is low or no wind or your hunting the hill country and yes always shoot your bow. It's never a bad idea to loose a few arrows. Goodluck this season!
@@PretestedSniper Not really to be honest. The areas I hunt don't have many straight branchless trees and Wisconsin doesn't allow trimming on public land so it just hasn't made much sense for me to use a climber. I fully understand their value and think they are a great choice if you are in an area where the trees are applicable.
ktnjr in some properties of state land stands can stay until season over for 30 days.. others allow no stands left overnight.. check your yearly handbook or call DEC (DEC in NY but other names elsewhere..
What kind of stand do you use? And if you had to buy another would you buy the same one? Thanks! Being a new bow hunter, I really appreciate your videos.
Glad you are hunting! For me personally, I run a lone wolf hang on the alpha 1, I believe, and 4 lone wolf climbing sticks. This is an expensive set up, but I found mine on Craigslist for like $220, so I did get a deal on it. The reason it is so expensive is due to it's light weight. When you're doing a lot of public land hunting and walking long distances, every pound starts to add up, so the lighter the better. If i were to buy another one, yes I would buy a Lone wolf or an XOP set up. XOP is actually founded by the son of the founder of Lone Wolf, so it's a pretty similar set up at a similar price point. Also I use a hang on because they are much more versatile than a climber. Climbers you need straight trees that don't have any branches. That can be extremely limiting and provide no cover in the tree itself. So for me, hang-ons are the way to go even though they weight a little more. The versatility of being able to get in most trees is worth it. That being said, I am looking heavily into Tree Saddles this year. You can youtube those for more info, but they are lighter weight, easy to carry, easy to pack, and offer even greater versatility. I can't talk much about them because I haven't tried one, but I have ordered mine from THETHRD Nation and am just waiting on it so I can do some reviews and try hunting out of it. Hope that helps bud! I post more stuff on instagram than youtube, so maybe some of those videos might help too @heller_anthony. Best of luck this year!
Anthony Heller agree on the hang on stands... and definitely lighter more expensive are worth the expense... I have a couple ladderstands and they stay on my property or more permanent private land sites.. I bought a couple cheaper stands and sticks and they are HEAVY before that mile hike in is done... if cheap is a must then I suggest a wider platform especially for bow season.. with attention paid to metal to metal with no rubber bushings... creaky loud metallic sounds when you adjust is a deer alert too!! Hope these help,welcome to the world of hunting!!!
Heavy - not really. Noisy - slightly but it's a risk that I'm willing to take to ensure a 2nd source of safety and firm stand placement. Really 5 or 6 clicks is all I do and it holds very well. You are free to use quiet and lighter straps all you want.
@@DeerVane yeah, I hear you and you are correct. I understand your train of thought, but being an arborist that climbs and reppels to take down dangerous trees off of people's houses, I understand that rope is safer. No mechanical thing to strip out or fail in some way. What I do on sticks and stand is use real climbing rope, not the stuff from box store. I double it so that on a small tree you have two going around and on a giant tree I can just slip it so that I can have one really long one going around the tree. A tremendous force can be had by putting a loop in your rope to come back through and pull to tie. A truckers hitch if you will. Some of these guys are pushing the limits with some of this chincy gear. I'm with you I don't want to take a chance falling .not worth it. I wish you luck and good safe hunting!
Totally do not agree with with the wide trunk of the trunk it breaks up your outline the height of the stand at 15 feet gives you an excellent shot angle for shots that give double lung vitals I do agree that cover is extremely important
As a bowhunter ill answer the real question the actual average Joe's out there that hunt public land... 1. In public land. Mobile is number 1. You want to carry stuff as least as possible. You dont want to fatigue yourself alot. A LW with 2 sticks or 6 screw steps is all you need. Remember you're walking 1/2 mile to over miles to your spot. 2. What kind of tree to hang? Depends where you're at. Id rather hang on a wide open tree with the least limbs and brush. Too much brush. Deer can't see you but you can't shoot the deer. In public land. You can't cut any limbs or brush on public land. 3. When hanging stands How high should you hang? You only need to hang 7 to 9 feet. Because in most public lands you can't leave stands overnight so you have to take it on and off every morning and evenings...
Every piece is different and some areas you need to get up higher than 7 to 9 feet, some you don't. Everyone has different fatigue levels, for me, I ran a lone wolf with 4 sticks and walked 1-2 miles one way to my spot in and out and was just fine in terms of my energy level. Lastly - everyone has different preferences on a tree with cover and a tree without. So it's really up to the hunter as to what the prefer, what the terrain gives them, and what their experience has been.
@@DeerVanemobile is the number one factor in public land.... you can brag how much you can carry your stuff in and out..... I use my head to make it work on public land. Not how hard I make it work. I used to carry 4 sticks in and out too in public land. Over the years.. Most times your just wasting energy and time hanging 4 sticks in and out every day... Now I hang a LW djaquisto stand with 2 djaquisto sticks 7-8 feet high everywhere I go. I've had deer walk 10yds. All you need is to play the wind and take the chance...In private ground. I'd hang 15feet and leave it there.
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 not trying to brag just letting anyone reading this know that it is okay and doable to pack in 4 sticks. Also your comments seem absolute in that your way is the only way or the "right" way, and I just want to make sure anyone reading this knows every situation is different and hang heights vary based on the scenario. I would rather waste the energy and have the capability to go 20 ft than not have the capability at all. Also I agree being mobile is 100% key to finding success on any piece public or private.
@@DeerVanesame with you. Not trying argue. You can brag how high you can hang. All the stuff youre talking to me about. Been there, Done it. I'm not trying to make myself sound like my preference only works. If it doesn't work. I wouldn't be talking about it along with other bowhunters that I know that's killed big bucks from a low stand.... You do what works for you. But another preference will give other hunters an idea. Rather than talking I'm right or wrong.. try experimenting carrying a LW stands w 2sticks on public land. Then you'll know what I'm talking....
I carry my summit climber and my crossbow. I walk 1 mile in the woods and hunt an edge of a thick pine tree forest. Next to the edge of the pine is a white oak and overcup blend with a natural spring running through the middle. I get 14 feet up and have natural brush to my sides and behind me covering me up perfect. 7 feet is kind of low if your hunting a new area because you never know where the deer could come from until you learn the trails. I recommend carrying a gps and not leaving markers. Covering your climbing stand in a ghilli suit blind and wearing a face mask also helps make you invisible. I've had deer come within 1 foot of my crossbow and never saw me or smelled me. Hopefully this comment will help any new hunters. I hunt on 17,600 acres of public land also and have yet to find another hunter anywhere near my spot
Hey man, if you're still using this setup for hang and hunts, I would recommend "cam locking" the lonewolf. th-cam.com/video/idPMREocQhQ/w-d-xo.html I have the old assault with the very narrow tree V and if I don't do this, I get very bad side to side slop on certain trees. This method makes it rock solid! If you want to use the bottom strap too, just put it on a little loose while hanging the stand and then reach down and snug it up AFTER cam-locking. Good luck!
Great tips, in the future at the end of the video it's always nice to do a quick rundown of the seven to remind the viewer.
I'm new to the hang on stand and being mobile style hunting hunting but about tip #5. You aren't afraid to break the stand or bend the main tube by using a ratchet strap on the bottom instead of camlocking the stand to the tree using the top pull strap then pulling the the platform up and pushing it down on the seat area to allow the top atler bracket to dig into the tree thus supporting most the weight and it should stop that rocking back and forth on the bottom. i have limited experience hanging mine but was able to learn quite a bit of useful info on hanging mine from watching Jason on Traditional bowhunting and wilderness podcast. Just wanting your opinion because i have also thought about doing it the same way before. Thank you for the rest of the tips will definitely be using them for sure.
Hey Drew - you can certainly do the camlock technique. Sometimes it's just difficult to execute when your up in the tree and hanging the stand. Could be branches or just akward angles etc. I like the ratchet at that point because it provides a 2nd strap for safety and the ability to really stick it to that tree. I do not crank it so hard I think it will bend or break the stand. Just snugging it up tight so there is no rocking of the stand at all.
I think it’s good for people such as myself to learn from people with experience such as yourself. I appreciate the reply and will definitely see where this fits into my hunting. I have limited knowledge of hanging on different kinds of trees with different bark. Recently found it a bit more difficult to use sticks and stand on pines when the bark tends to break away so will keep an open mind for sure. Thank you for putting your knowledge thru experience for us to learn
Good tips. Thanks. Have a blessed day.
Great tips Anthony, very useful and all treestand users can benefit from these tips.
Excellent video. Where I hunt in Utah and the high Sierra mountains in California. I can not do any branch trimming also the stand cannot be left unattended. Yup pack in pack out each day, what a pain.
Positioning your stand so that the likely shot is to your left (for a right hand bow). I did not think of this. Thank you!
Great tips ! We have all the same issues in Michigan !
Hey man great tips on the video! This is my first year hunting in general and hunting public is definitely a challenge. Just like you I’m self taught so these help so much
Really appreciate you sharing the knowledge you've learned.
You bet man!
This video was incredibly useful! Thank you!
Adding the bottom cam strap and cranking it down is a sure fire way to crack the platform. Contact your stand manufacturer for proper hanging procedure if you think I’m wrong. A mild toe hook with one strap on the top button will properly set lone wolf style stands. You can then add a second loop style strap and snug to take out any side to side movement. The rest of your tips have merit.
Great video! Answered some questions I didn’t know I had. Thanks!
You bet and thanks for the comment! Glad it helped!
All of my stands are 25plus here in NJ the deer walk with there heads up looking
Good stuff, solid video thanks for putting it together.
you bet!
Good video. Thanks for the tips !
You bet! Thanks for watching and hope it helps!
Number four is genius, idk how I’ve never thought of that.
Haha thanks! All of these have been learned from failing over and over again so... ya I didn't think of it at first either!
Thanks for number 4
Great video! God bless you sir
What would you change for crossbow. Limited to about 20 yards for a shit dye to the one I have
Great vid!
Thanks Anthony
Great video!! I love bow hunting I also had no mentor and had to learn all this on my own every tip you gave will be very helpful for new hunters. Great job on that buck in your video it's hard out here on public land. I'm from Missouri and I hunt public land also it is really difficult at times.
Thanks bud! glad you think the info will help and yes public can be super difficult! but also very rewarding when it all finally comes together =)
Pre adjusting straps is huge!
Thanks for the tips!
What part of Wisconsin? I live in the U.P. near Florence.
Thank ya! I am a bit further south outside of Madison
Good video. Subbed
Good tips! Rather than cutting a lane often bungee cords or the spare haul rope can bend and hold branches etc out of the way.. often you can bend them to your advantage.. don't forget thermals.. up in the morning and down at last light if in the hills... another is SHOOT YOUR BOW!!! Not just a few days before bow opener...😁shoot (practice) from the height your stand will be...
Totally agree with your additional thoughts Man! A lot of times you can't trim out on public, so bungees work great! Also thermals are super important to consider when there is low or no wind or your hunting the hill country and yes always shoot your bow. It's never a bad idea to loose a few arrows. Goodluck this season!
Great video buddy
Thanks bud!
Do you use climber stands at all?
@@PretestedSniper Not really to be honest. The areas I hunt don't have many straight branchless trees and Wisconsin doesn't allow trimming on public land so it just hasn't made much sense for me to use a climber. I fully understand their value and think they are a great choice if you are in an area where the trees are applicable.
Awesome videos. Can we leave tree stands up in the trees on Wisconsin public land?
I'm not from Wisconsin but public land etiquette would advise against it
ktnjr I had my climbing stick straps and lifeline hacked by some creep on public land...
ktnjr in some properties of state land stands can stay until season over for 30 days.. others allow no stands left overnight.. check your yearly handbook or call DEC (DEC in NY but other names elsewhere..
Hey man - no you can not. There are rare instances where you can, but for the most part no, you need to hang and hunt every time.
What kind of stand do you use? And if you had to buy another would you buy the same one? Thanks! Being a new bow hunter, I really appreciate your videos.
Glad you are hunting! For me personally, I run a lone wolf hang on the alpha 1, I believe, and 4 lone wolf climbing sticks. This is an expensive set up, but I found mine on Craigslist for like $220, so I did get a deal on it. The reason it is so expensive is due to it's light weight. When you're doing a lot of public land hunting and walking long distances, every pound starts to add up, so the lighter the better. If i were to buy another one, yes I would buy a Lone wolf or an XOP set up. XOP is actually founded by the son of the founder of Lone Wolf, so it's a pretty similar set up at a similar price point. Also I use a hang on because they are much more versatile than a climber. Climbers you need straight trees that don't have any branches. That can be extremely limiting and provide no cover in the tree itself. So for me, hang-ons are the way to go even though they weight a little more. The versatility of being able to get in most trees is worth it. That being said, I am looking heavily into Tree Saddles this year. You can youtube those for more info, but they are lighter weight, easy to carry, easy to pack, and offer even greater versatility. I can't talk much about them because I haven't tried one, but I have ordered mine from THETHRD Nation and am just waiting on it so I can do some reviews and try hunting out of it. Hope that helps bud! I post more stuff on instagram than youtube, so maybe some of those videos might help too @heller_anthony. Best of luck this year!
Anthony Heller agree on the hang on stands... and definitely lighter more expensive are worth the expense... I have a couple ladderstands and they stay on my property or more permanent private land sites.. I bought a couple cheaper stands and sticks and they are HEAVY before that mile hike in is done... if cheap is a must then I suggest a wider platform especially for bow season.. with attention paid to metal to metal with no rubber bushings... creaky loud metallic sounds when you adjust is a deer alert too!! Hope these help,welcome to the world of hunting!!!
Good tips… don’t forget to wear your harness at all times.
Why would you be using heeavy noisy ratchet straps???
Heavy - not really. Noisy - slightly but it's a risk that I'm willing to take to ensure a 2nd source of safety and firm stand placement. Really 5 or 6 clicks is all I do and it holds very well. You are free to use quiet and lighter straps all you want.
@@DeerVane yeah, I hear you and you are correct. I understand your train of thought, but being an arborist that climbs and reppels to take down dangerous trees off of people's houses, I understand that rope is safer. No mechanical thing to strip out or fail in some way. What I do on sticks and stand is use real climbing rope, not the stuff from box store. I double it so that on a small tree you have two going around and on a giant tree I can just slip it so that I can have one really long one going around the tree. A tremendous force can be had by putting a loop in your rope to come back through and pull to tie. A truckers hitch if you will. Some of these guys are pushing the limits with some of this chincy gear. I'm with you I don't want to take a chance falling .not worth it. I wish you luck and good safe hunting!
Totally do not agree with with the wide trunk of the trunk it breaks up your outline the height of the stand at 15 feet gives you an excellent shot angle for shots that give double lung vitals I do agree that cover is extremely important
Wait ur scared of heights but ur above 10 foot I can’t go above 6 feet and if I do I start freaking out 😭
It comes with experience
A year ago i was scared of a 9 feet wooden ladder stand, now i have no problem getting up near 20 with my lone wolf.
As a bowhunter ill answer the real question the actual average Joe's out there that hunt public land... 1. In public land. Mobile is number 1. You want to carry stuff as least as possible. You dont want to fatigue yourself alot. A LW with 2 sticks or 6 screw steps is all you need. Remember you're walking 1/2 mile to over miles to your spot. 2. What kind of tree to hang? Depends where you're at. Id rather hang on a wide open tree with the least limbs and brush. Too much brush. Deer can't see you but you can't shoot the deer. In public land. You can't cut any limbs or brush on public land. 3. When hanging stands How high should you hang? You only need to hang 7 to 9 feet. Because in most public lands you can't leave stands overnight so you have to take it on and off every morning and evenings...
Every piece is different and some areas you need to get up higher than 7 to 9 feet, some you don't. Everyone has different fatigue levels, for me, I ran a lone wolf with 4 sticks and walked 1-2 miles one way to my spot in and out and was just fine in terms of my energy level. Lastly - everyone has different preferences on a tree with cover and a tree without. So it's really up to the hunter as to what the prefer, what the terrain gives them, and what their experience has been.
@@DeerVanemobile is the number one factor in public land.... you can brag how much you can carry your stuff in and out..... I use my head to make it work on public land. Not how hard I make it work. I used to carry 4 sticks in and out too in public land. Over the years.. Most times your just wasting energy and time hanging 4 sticks in and out every day... Now I hang a LW djaquisto stand with 2 djaquisto sticks 7-8 feet high everywhere I go. I've had deer walk 10yds. All you need is to play the wind and take the chance...In private ground. I'd hang 15feet and leave it there.
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 not trying to brag just letting anyone reading this know that it is okay and doable to pack in 4 sticks. Also your comments seem absolute in that your way is the only way or the "right" way, and I just want to make sure anyone reading this knows every situation is different and hang heights vary based on the scenario. I would rather waste the energy and have the capability to go 20 ft than not have the capability at all. Also I agree being mobile is 100% key to finding success on any piece public or private.
@@DeerVanesame with you. Not trying argue. You can brag how high you can hang. All the stuff youre talking to me about. Been there, Done it. I'm not trying to make myself sound like my preference only works. If it doesn't work. I wouldn't be talking about it along with other bowhunters that I know that's killed big bucks from a low stand.... You do what works for you. But another preference will give other hunters an idea. Rather than talking I'm right or wrong.. try experimenting carrying a LW stands w 2sticks on public land. Then you'll know what I'm talking....
I carry my summit climber and my crossbow. I walk 1 mile in the woods and hunt an edge of a thick pine tree forest. Next to the edge of the pine is a white oak and overcup blend with a natural spring running through the middle. I get 14 feet up and have natural brush to my sides and behind me covering me up perfect. 7 feet is kind of low if your hunting a new area because you never know where the deer could come from until you learn the trails. I recommend carrying a gps and not leaving markers. Covering your climbing stand in a ghilli suit blind and wearing a face mask also helps make you invisible. I've had deer come within 1 foot of my crossbow and never saw me or smelled me. Hopefully this comment will help any new hunters. I hunt on 17,600 acres of public land also and have yet to find another hunter anywhere near my spot
Hey man, if you're still using this setup for hang and hunts, I would recommend "cam locking" the lonewolf.
th-cam.com/video/idPMREocQhQ/w-d-xo.html
I have the old assault with the very narrow tree V and if I don't do this, I get very bad side to side slop on certain trees. This method makes it rock solid!
If you want to use the bottom strap too, just put it on a little loose while hanging the stand and then reach down and snug it up AFTER cam-locking.
Good luck!
Hey I hear ya, cam locking is a great way to go!
Beginner
That’s not how u set a loc on stand
Go ahead and make a better video then. Would love to learn.