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- Does wearing goth clothes make you goth is definitely one of the most asked questions by people not knowing how to get into goth.
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The goth subsculture is what I feel I belong to and that is the reason that I want to make more opinionated video's about often asked questions for people wanting to get into the goth subculture.
Does wearing goth clothes make you goth?
That's the first question I will be answering.
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TO WHOEVER READS THIS : Goth is a music based subculture first. As long as you listen to any sub genres of goth your good. You don't have to dress a certain way either. If people don't like the music just the aesthetics that's fine, they can refer to themselves as alternative or darkly inclined ... & there is nothing wrong with that. If you enjoy the music embrace the subculture support your local scene. A WARNING : just don't turn into an Elitist as.shole & you'll be ok
OMG indeed! don't turn into some self entitled elitist and you'll be fine, most people I know are such big music fans that we end up talking about it for hours! I love sharing music with fellow goths, because we often listen to completely different bands within the same realm
@@Orphea333 Exactly👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I could talk about music for hours also 🖤 The only thing I never liked is the comparison between different scenes people confuse one for the other that don't know any better & you get tired of explaining it.
I love the podcast “ Communion After Dark”. They play a lot of dark wave.
Any body can like the music just cause you like the music doesn't mean your goth, goth is something you feel in your heart and soul
Music is anything to me than fashion. However music and fashion together is awesome. I’m into goth fashion.
Here is my take on it, yes I identify as goth, I listen to goth music, I dress in a goth aesthetic (most of the time). Also I am nearly 42 years old. When I was younger a person's style/fashion was a conversation starter. If you went to a coffee shop or a bar and saw someone there in a goth aesthetic you knew you could likely start a conversation with them about music and more than likely walk away with a new friend. The fashion is still a conversation starter, the conversations are just different now I guess. I am an extrovert and I enjoy meeting new people, now a days I can no longer just assume that someone with purple hair and an all black wardrobe is going to have anything in common with me. Which is fine, I believe people should dress to make themselves happy. However, I do miss the era where the style and the subculture were more closely entwined, it made breaking the ice with new people a little easier. I agree with you that the style being more commercial has allowed for me to find more office appropriate wardrobe pieces as well as my fashion sense being more acceptable in the office environment, and I do like that. :)
Thank you so much for sharing this! I usually still talk to younger people, but I mostly meet them at events, and not just in the street.
I love how much more accessible the fashion has become.
it is very annoying to talk to someone who appears goth and then they hit u with the "nah i just like to dress like that"
Listening to goth music makes you goth. There's so much misinformation about how "goth is a feeling" or "goth is a style". If you're not goth, there's always liking gothic elements or being 'darkly inclined', heck even just calling yourself 'alternative'. You have to listen to the music to be considered goth! A certain fashion video coming out soon is just going to contribute more to the misinformation and confusion. People forget that a lot of goth fashion was inspired by the musicians themselves, and didn't just come out of nowhere.
this so much! Thank you for sharing!
Goth is ultimately a music based subculture. There is more to it, but that's the most fundamental part. You wouldn't call yourself a metalhead if you don't listen to metal music, so why call yourself a goth if you don't listen to goth music? It's not a badge of honor or anything, not being goth isn't something negative :)
Indeed! I feel like whenever I compare it to metal, people understand it better.
Being goth is something super positive in my life and environment ^^
It's a musical subculture. You should like at least some of the music. No, goth fashion does not make you goth. It is only part of the subculture. The music and literature are an important part of the subculture. There are other aspects too but the music is core. Goth is goth and we can't rewrite history. It is what it is.🕸️🦇💀 Gothic is an aesthetic.
I totally agree!
and of course you can love the aesthetic, but if you consider yourself 'goth' I feel you also need to at least appreciate the music as well
Goth music doesn't make you goth either 💁
Loving this video about our subculture and why its important to learn the roots and history to really understand why we identify as a goth .
thank you for your insight!
goth is a music subculture.
in the first place yes ^^
I feel very similar to you!
Wearing the clothes doesn't automatically make you a goth, nor does listening to the music, or even reading gothic novels. It's a choice to join the subculture and say, "Yes, I am one of these people." Even if you like everything under the goth umbrella, if you don't make that choice... you're not goth.
On the other side, if you want to be goth, I also feel that you really need to know the subculture's roots. Even if you don't like old-school goth music, I think it's important to know who they are and why they matter.
You can't really look at a person and tell if they are a goth. Its not that simple. There is a lot more to it than just clothes. Many people don't put it together that I AM goth because I don't always dress in the more extreme clothing (i have a day job, people XD, and sometimes lazy). I also think it's because I'm blonde, and people think you have to dye your hair black or another color (once again, day job. I'd much rather have green hair) to be goth. And because I listen to other things than just what they think is "goth" music. I've never been the type to be limited by anything. If I like something, I do it. Music, clothes, whatever. That's how I got into goth. I loved the aesthetics and the music and gobbled it up. Just because it's not all of my being doesn't mean it still doesn't fit.
Thank you so much for sharing ❤
Interesting because I ask myself this ‘am I goth’ I have to say no. I have always enjoyed the dark style of clothing and when young wore black, dyed my hair black but was obsessed with Kate bush, but I also loved the Pet Shop Boys. My favourite time of year was Halloween and was very much interested in the spirit world. I have recently come back to the dark side at age 48 and once again I wear black but I am letting my black hair grow out to it’s natural grey streaks, I consider myself an eclectic solitary witch and I practise on days I do not work. Labels are so tiresome but at the same time comforting and perhaps something to aspire to.
Indeed labels are for boxes, not for people!
You sound like someone really fun and interesting!
@@Orphea333 ah god no I’m dead boring lol
Wow, this is a big topic for it is not all that straightforward in my opinion. We must also take into account the divide of the pre-internet time and the times we are now in. With this I mean that before the internet became commonplace people who dressed Goth usually were into Goth because there was no online shops and you had to visit quite niche shops to get the clothing you wanted. Even getting into Goth was quite hard if you didn't know anybody in the scene because you didn't have any resources to look it up like these days. As I'm Goth for most part of my life I know the struggle as a teenager to get into the whole Goth thing, the access to Goth music was very limited and while there were parties you didn't have a clue where or when, you actually had to stumble onto flyers or by knowing somebody to get you started. Nowadays it's of course much much more easy to get to know about the scene and everything what's around it.
So the internet did 2 things, on the one side it brought the scene closer together (oh where are the times of Gothweb :) ) but on the other side it started the commercialization of what is Goth and opened up the clothing style to people who had/have no idea of what Goth is and what it stands for. But what not is can of course come and a part of them will get interested into the lifestyle that is Goth. Dressing up as a Goth does not make you a Goth per sé, and vice versa of course but Goth being so wide and with so many branches of music there is almost something for everyone. Goth used to be all black and it still is by a large margin but it can be also complete white, or fluorescent and so much more. Goth is not only clothing and music, it's a state of mind, a way of life and a special view on life as a whole.
In my opinion the commercialization of Goth clothing isn't a bad thing because it makes access much more easier for those who never heard of it before because face it, despite being the longest subculture in existence we don't get much attention in the press or on the radio or television and if any usually they make something about the freaks of the scene (I remember that Jambers episode about Goth that was so disgustingly wrong on so many levels). And yes, some people dress up as Goth without being a Goth but usually you can tell when they aren't Goth by small details. After about 20 years in the Goth scene and countless parties and the like later I kind of developed an instinct of knowing who is really into Goth and who just dress up like it.
Getting into Goth has never been so easy, the online sources are plenty and the parties are there (at least when Corona finally fucks off that is). The only thing is that we as a subculture must be open to new people and don't become all scene-queens (and oh yeah, that's a term which includes all genders :p ). Of course there will always be some who consider themselves ÜberGoths but I tend to believe this is only a small group within the Goth community. My general feel is that on Goth parties people are pretty considerate towards each other and I believe that this behavior makes newcomers feel at ease pretty fast and perhaps let them discover their Goth side.
Of course this is a topic that is so large that several books can be written about it. Goth is a package deal but it has become so diverse that there is something for everybody and to be honest, that's why the subculture managed to survive. Many other subcultures got stuck in the same gear for much of their existence and eventually ceased to exist but Goth always carried on because we as a subculture diversified and keep on doing that. This evolution is what keeps the scene alive and kicking and of course no small part because of those who have the guts to organize things we can go to, those are perhaps the real ÜberGoths, worthy of our respect and admiration.
Thank you so much for sharing!
This really speaks to me: "Goth is not only clothing and music, it's a state of mind, a way of life and a special view on life as a whole. "
Thanks for sharing, I always enjoy your content. It certainly is important to investigate, research and try to be in the know, especially if a young person wants to be part of any social group, including Goth. I myself don't identify as Goth, but the Goth culture has always fascinated me. This includes the literature, art, spooky things and of course music. Music certainly brings people together, which is awesome. But wish was more prevalent, which would make the world a better place. Life like Goth and other ideals is being true to yourself and being free to express oneself in a reasonable, respectful and safe manner. Again thanks for sharing. Be safe out there.😁🖤❤👍🤘
Exactly. When I first found out about goth, I had no idea about goth music. I got confused by google that implied "Goth listens to heavy metal" which later I found out that is very very inaccurate. So thats when research comes handy. Goth music,original goth club (batcave) history, goth bands, etc all can be discovered if we just put more effort on finding out about the Goth Subculture .
P.S I kinda hate how many blogs n articles in google misleading these babybats on what is goth. They lump other subcultures n dark associated things together (metalhead,punk,witchcraft,satanism etc) n define it goth. Now these infos will be the one that slowly ruining the subculture and attracted these "tourist" which later tell the same misleading info to others that r interested in "Goth"
Thank you so much for sharing!
Orphea, your makeup looks flawless! Thank you for video!
Glad you liked it!! ❤
For me, people who listen to a lot of bands (not only four), who go to the concerts without dressing with goth-associated clothes are also goths even if personally they don't want to be directly associated to the subculture or be putted in a box because music IS the definition of this subculture and they know the history and roots of the scene. For example : a lot of goth umbrella contemporary solo artists or bands don't dress with a really extravagant style that is often associated with the goth scene.
But I think that there is also a second factor : supporting the contemporary bands, labels following the everyday news of the scene. 😊
All the people who don't fit these criterias don't have a relationship to the scene for me. People who just want to be recognized by their style without speaking of music just serve a certain confusion and a superficial image of the subculture...
Unfortunately Instagram has made goth a label like for clothes, and that makes me sad.
I know it allows more people to find out about goth but the music will always be the most important part to me.
Thank you so much for sharing!
Pov, no it doesn't , darkly inclined yes, you have to enjoy some of the music to be Goth
Indeed! thank you for your insight!
Thank gosh someone who knows facts, and common sense. 🤣
So, I've always liked goth music, literature and movies but never realized it was goth until I was an adult. Haven't ever identified as goth or dressed goth even though I like the style. I'm older now and really like it still but have been nervous about interacting with the goth community.
no need to be nervous, we are all looking for some place to fit in. There's no starting age for goth. I hope you'll find your tribe
Hi Orphea! I think I'm a pretty good example of your opinion on this matter. I've worn uber goth clothing back in the day, did the whole Lip Service thing, changed my style and club outfits according to how I felt that day. You know I don't consider myself goth at all despite the clothing and the fact that I went to the club for such a long time, because I just don't listen to what I personally consider to be 'goth music'. I use my style to artistically express myself, while still enjoying other darker things in life. I am totally fine with being called darkly inclined, or just alternative is fine for me! I have a tendency to just fit into and hang out in all alternative subcultures, and no one has ever really accused me of pretending to be someone I am not (thankfully!!) I just want to see ALL alternative subcultures thrive, but it seems like social media has just unfortunately caused a lot of confusion. :/ PS- that e-girl style is cute as hell, but I could never fit into any of that haha. It honestly just looks like they are trying to emulate 90's mallgoth lmao
Thank you so much for sharing! ❤
and indeed, the e-girl style, however cute, I feel is like the 90ies all over again with all the cropped things, over sized pants, ...
I’m glad you did this video because there really is a lot of confusion out there and I’ve seen several others where individuals are actually telling people if they want to call themselves goth, that is fine even if they no nothing about what goth really is. They are telling people that if they dress goth, they are. I don’t mean to sound rude, but it irritates me when this happens and I think people do need to be educated on the subject before they claim to be goth. Anyhow, nice to see you again sweetie 💜🦇
Thank you so much for sharing ❤ I'm glad to be back and to be able to interact more with you!
It irritates me too, gurl. Like foaming at the mouth irritation. I always say something to them when they do that crap.🖤
I've never been goth but I listen to a lot of early goth music and love the goth esthetic. I've never been punk either but I love early punk/post punk. Generally I love anything 'dark'
My girlfriend laughs and she says I'm secretly goth without trying. I generally dress in black anyway 😁
You don't need a label on yourself indeed, you can identify whith what you love most, and that's what matters!
@@Orphea333 I'm 47, do been around different people all my life but the darker, edgier stuff has always appealed more 🖤
Heya,,, just joined. Love wearing black, it suits me the most but still on the days also like to color up
Thanks for such inspiration. I learn much about Goth from your channel. There are many useful information tho.
I have to admit that I never label myself as goth anyway, although I listen a lot to Goth music (most of them are goth popular band - IMHO) like Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, The Cure, Cocteau Twins, Lacrimosa etc.. Besides, I listen in various range of British alternative rock bands, or symphonic metal as well. I get dressed very often in all black clothing. Even, I'm a man in my 30s, sometimes still wear my knee-high new rock, or 20eye or 14eye docs. But I never do some make-up or wear Goth jewelries/ accessories, or visit cemeteries for any leisure motives. I visit library a lot.
I agree with you for some reasons. It is because I find here in my Country, there are a lot of people wear all black clothing and combine with docs, and goth-like make-up for the girls especially. But, I find them usually hangout in coffee shops or stores which don't represent any goth settings, even never play any goth music there. In my experience, with some little observation, people here who dresses goth usually labeled themselves emo, punk, black metal, or death metal fans, otherwise they are like to hipster or edgy fashion enthusiasts. But, i don't wanna too far away with stereotyping. Perhaps here, in Indonesia, there are very little influence for goth subculture. We don't have any Vampires and Frankenstein-like story in our local horror stories. And most of people usually don't like to discuss anything related about death. It is kind of "taboo", and people prefer to avoid it. Greetings from Indonesia!
Thank you for sharing, greetings from Belgium!
My style definitely incorporates things that are considered goth but I am not a goth! I had goth friends back in the 80s and early 90s, so I do listen to some Goth music, but I'm a metalhead. I think because of the 80s goth scene being my idea of goth, I would never feel comfortable being called Goth 💜
This indeed! I have friends who from the outside look goth, but some prefer just being called alternative, or punk or ... It's not up to others to stick a label on us, we are not boxes! ❤
Goth is what you feel inside, I could not be anything else, it would not feel right for me. Of course you have to explore the music. But clothes, you can wear what to want, it does not have to be black, you don't have to buy the brands, you can make your own style. And no you don't have to like the Cure!
Very true! thank you for sharing!
I mean, you have to at least like one of the big Goth bands who founded, The Cure, Siouxie and the Banshee's, The Smith's, Joy Division, Bauhaus...
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 Aye, I do enjoy listening to Bauhaus
@@TamaraAndTheDemon everyone has their own style but fundamentally it's a music scene. :)
Thank you for making this vid, I was very curious about what goth truly was. I've seen the style everywhere and I knew of Marilyn Manson but never really dived into it. But now I've thought about it and it really intrigues me. I read a bit of the goth subculture on Wikipedia and it was really interesting. I'm also curious on the difference between goth and emo. I've listened to my fair share of MCR, Green Day, Fall Out Boy, Panic! At the Disco, and Paramore and I really like their music. I don't classify as goth or emo, I just like the aesthetic, now I won't wear any "goth" or "emo" clothing if it's offensive to both of those subcultures. I've done a little bit of research on both of them and it's really interesting. I would like to dress like that because I think that the aesthetic is very cool and stylish, but I also don't want to offend anyone who is goth or emo. But thanks for making this video, it definitely brought me a lot of understanding about goth culture. Also I just have a little question. How do you have your skin look pale white? I'm just curious and I would like to do that, again, I'm just curious. But again, thanks for making this, it definitely helps broaden my understanding of this very interesting subculture.
Omg I agree so much about the label ! I I was like this a long time I listen to goth music and have some similar clothing taste but I didn’t identify myself as goth when I was young it came in my late 20s haha
I think that’s because people bullied by saying goth like it’s an insult ..
Thank you for your comment, I totally agree you are your own unique person, no one should stick a label on you ^^
I agree with you. I identify as goth and dress in goth fashion in my free time when I feel like it, but when I'm at work I dress more mainstream. I may add a piece from my goth wardrobe.
However, I won't tell a stranger I am when asked because of stigma and people not understanding fully what goth is.
I enjoy most goth music, both old and new, and also mostly all 80s music and 90s alternative rock. I even like Michael Jackson, Prince, and Johnny Cash. I do dress goth, but not at work. I have a dirty job (firearms manufacturing). There is practically no goth scene where I live (near Prescott, AZ), except for one club called The Attic, where I hang out on Saturday nights. Every other club on "Whiskey Row" plays either hip hop or country/western. Sometimes I will go into one of those other places, and people have been accepting, but not too often. (Jan Griffiths).
I am not Goth, but I like the style a lot it can enhance many styles with its elements. I cannot personally connect with the Goth music by itself, but I respect it and elements of it.
I identify myself with the goth culture, yet, I don't dress goth. I live in a very hot place all year long. It makes me no less interested in goth. I still listen to Type O Negative, The Sins of Thy Beloved and Virgin Black. I also read novels. I'm only dressed goth when I go all black to the gym at night. But the truth is that I recently overcome two years in deep depression. I dyied my hair red and just got new silver earings for myself to feel more me and a little more goth. Still have to find new cloths for my new body too.
You can be goth,just as long as you don't hurt people. I love gothic people and the style.
I dont think it makes you goth i feel that goth is something you feel in your heart and soul i dont always wear my goth clothes but i do feel it in my heart and listening to the music doesn't make you goth i feel anybody can like the music but not be cold and dark inside
it's got nothing to do with being cold and dark inside, i've met many happy go lucky goths... it's a music subculture first and foremost
I dont wear goth clothes religiously persay, but having been heavily part of the Subculture and still listen to what I used to listen too , it's still deep in my soul , that beautiful piece of darkness wasn't entirely a phase. Its what I've always been drawn to, relate to, ( the plastic skull I adorn as as decors that I just had to get during Halloween) , therefore, I identify as a semigoth. 😂 at least in the colder months. Its hot in the south and I don't desire to wear black that often
I'm goth but I love in an arena that has no goths and the one who are all women yet I'm male so idk what to do
I love love love the music! Especially the older songs. And I am thrilling to go to a club, event or party and join the scene. But I can’t find anything anywhere! You have any tips? I live in the Netherlands so if anyone knows a place lmk!
Glad you like it! I'm not sure what events will survive Corona, but generally most events are in Germany
@@Orphea333 a lot seems to have shut down around 2015-2017. Which is a shame. And if there are still some underground places, i feel like they are in trouble because of the virus. It’s so frustrating😰
I listen to the music but if you looked at me on the street you wouldn’t think I was goth at all. I “dress” with the typical goth look from time to time but it really just depends on how I feel. Wearing too much black has its cons for me, one being my pets, and two I kinda feel sad when I wear too many dark colors. I need some vibrancy in my life too!!
Im trying to learn more about Goth Subculture & its roots and history. So far what ive have learned is that its a mindset & a music based culture
The main focus is indeed on music and mindset! ❤
I bought a 1902 Victorian house.
Goth Swag.
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that sounds so epic!
@@Orphea333Thanx, I needed a place that lined up with all the other Aesthetics in my goth lifestyle. I am complete lol 🖤
About half the time, I dress "normal" or even "hippie" when I dress formally...and the other half I am dressed in black and wear black lipstick etc. However I am a fan of goth music...I get insecure telling people that i like the music and the aesthetic, but maybe at that point time maybe I'm dressed in teal peasant dress and jc penny wedges for example LOL. Reason why is I like all kinds of fashion/style looks tbh...it may not always reflect my taste in entertainment or the inner workings of my mind.
So the video was playing before I clicked on it... Subtitles said golf clothes instead of goth 😂
omg that is so funny! XD
Metalheads listen mainly to metal, goths listens mainly to goth rock/darkwave and the likes, the fashion is an addon, not obligatory, I know of some casual goths who just wear goth band tees and black jeans and docs, no makeup or special jewelry but heck do they love the music! Other addons are gothic literature, gothic movies, lifestyle, architecture, poetry. The music is the base, you can add to it, it's a subculture. Only liking the fashion means you like to dress as a goth, that doesn't make you goth. In the old days we would call you a poseur hehee.
There are sub genres of goth music I like and the gothic style really speaks to me but I’d feel like a poser calling myself a goth. Mostly the music and style speak to me but I’m just now learning about the history and culture.
now the problem is I'm trying to win an argument that I'm not goth... they still aren't convinced... yes my clothing accidentally is very similar to gothic styles (only ever looked at bunnies and cosplay on Instagram so doesn't apply) (my favorite colours are black and red), I have a number of gothic-like items like skulls, one of the genres of music I listen to is the goth and I love gothic horror books and people who do call themselves goth are saying I'm goth but I personally still think I'm not goth...
I am the other sort , wearing normal clothing most of the time mainly due to work but then go to HRH ,Mera Luna etc
Having been there from the start watching Sisters of Mercy when they were good , the Mission ,Cure , and many modern groups such as Lord of the Lost , Blutengel . I do wear mainly black but don't do the full gear outside festivals
so most people don't consider me Goth . What am I ? I don't mind being called Goth but am focused on doing all the normal bill paying problems in life
Everyone can do their own thing, in most business calls and work related things you cant tell either.
Thank you for sharing!
I came across my old post having been back to Mera Luna and various other concerts this year I have come to the conclusion I am as much a goth as anyone out there. So answered myself there . I lost my identity due to all the lockdowns and lack of music . I am glad people like yourself posted TH-cam in 20 and 21 as you kept people like me sane . All my Alternative friends live too far away
Hello! Can I ask you if you still use the hair dye Olia or not??
Yes i do!
I'll start off by saying I'm a guy that likes metal music and dig the goth style. I think this question has gotten extremely complicated over the years as different groups expand and form. For example, the style and general culture associated with industrial metal (Motionless in While, Manson, etc. - also yes, I know, fuck Manson) and goth, really aren't that different... but the music is, and that is something both groups are very passionate about.
Personally, I think life is really hard. There is a raging pandemic, women are losing their rights in America, the income inequality is at record levels, and so much more that I cannot possibly list it all today. So, I think we should all be more supportive of each other.
Is a metalhead a goth? Not by traditional descriptions, but if they're not hurting anyone, then I genuinely couldn't care less anymore.
There are a bunch of people that have passed away. The Chanel families don't support anything of goth wear
I agree. Music is the core, and without listening to at least some of the bands, you're not Goth. As for the fashion for me personally, it has changed a lot. My life has changed especially last year, and the fashion part of me had to take a seat. From all black, to dark woodland fae, to just casual shirt and leggings. I also got into wild swimming and all that nature sports jazz, so 99% of the time, my fashion choices are non-existent lol. And ofc that 'rona keeping me at home.
I tend to be very casual as well, I mean, why should we dress up? there's no parties or events... I only dress up when i record my videos or a have especially motivated day
Hello, you're pretty! I agree with you!👍
Thank you!
@@Orphea333 You're welcome, thanks for sharing!
I am almost 44 and Goth, and I guess you can say my style is stereotypical of what people would think a Goth should look like and I love it!! I don’t feel whole and genuine if I do not dress to express my personality and subculture.
Sounds like you have an amazing style!
I love your accent
Good luck girl
thank you!
@@Orphea333 Very. Welcome buddy
I'm one who would like to identify as goth buuuut A: I'm not Wiccan, if anything I would fall under Agnotic or Satanist. and B: The goth clothing and fashion is hella expensive to get into and I don't necessarily go out and drop thousands of dollars when I go clothes shopping. However... Metal of all genres is my jam, from thrash to slam death metal.. if that's the "goth music genre" as I've always believed it is
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Imagine the Vienna Opera Ball only with goths!
I could wear a army uniform.... but it doesn't make me a military man..
im very goth but when im home im in the buff or my bday suit
thank you for sharing, that's certainly a specific point of view ^^
NO, it does not.
Exactly!
Well I created my own fashion trend alternative fashion goth gamer person basically I am a Gamer who plays xbox one games plus I like wearing Gothic clothing a lot because it's me and I like wearing alternative fashion from leggings and skirts and pvc and catsuits and tights and high heels .
That's why I buy a lot a lot of fashion and even I have a gothic figurine even I wish I could get dressed up as a drag queen for my LGBT group maybe one .
Feel free to see my channel .
I hope to do a demonia haul this month.
to me fashion is fashion. with out a understanding. as you sayed. and no music = a scean kid. aka a emo. e girl . e boy streotype . but we all ready knowed this xd
Clothes doesn't make a man. But it doesn't hurt to have a cool outfit😉 for me, music is not the only Goth thing, I think that literature and movies also mean a lot.
obvi! goth sub is about a little bit of everything but mostly music.
@@Amalkavs it is now but it was more political..
A cool outfit definitely helps, especially with self confidence.
For me I got into goth (try saying that fast) because of the music, so that will always be the main focus for me 😀
Im thinking people that wear goth clothes do it because they like it.....? And im wondering : what is goth life?
Maybe that's a video idea for the future ^^
You can of wear the clothes you like, but calling yourself goth if you have no idea what the subsculture is about is a bit weird to me...
But that's just my opinion of course!
Saw your comment looked at your Channel, I think you got it figured out. 🖤
Are you goth if you like the goth aesthetic, listen to goth music, know goth subculture history, but don't "dress goth" ?
Yes
Goth isn't about fashion or music it's a lifestyle it's the attitude and political. it's to be individual not to look like everybody else and about 90% of so called Goths are fake.. there's no different from them and chav's that wear the same Nike and listen to R&B and hip hop they are all sheep..and don't forget no one was actually called goth.. until someone said that its like punk living a gothic lifestyle and that was in the late 80s and didn't catch on until the 90s.. the punks and sub culture has lost its true meaning.. now you can be an of the shelf goth just buy everything from a goth shop.. so you can all look the same...
You're not in a biker gang for dressing like it.
Your not a lot of things just for dressing the part.
Thank you.
Nope
Nope clothes have nothing to do if ur a goth or not ...
No! Goth clothes don't makes you to an goth. It's a way of life, a meloncholic feeling deep inside ya heart. 🖤🥀
Indeed! Thank you for sharing your opinion ❤
you can only be goth after you know the ritual.....
The mystical ritual!
But seriously, you don't xD
@@Orphea333 dont let the normal's know about it
No it doesn’t it makes you poser trying to fit in because you feel like you have to follow the crowd
lmao they so wish, but no.
some just don't know better, but at leats this way we can spread a bit of attention to it ^^