Fursuit Making is Over…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2025
- The art of fursuit making MAY be in jeopardy as a career path or job altogether! With the potential of tariffs coming into 2025, a lot of people are worried about the price increase on many items shipped from overseas! Fursuit makers rely almost ENTIRELY on materials and tools imported from other countries who make it for cheaper, and as such, the price of fursuits may increase and will push the limits of who is willing to pay for them at the price they're at!
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As a maker that feels like a very run-down, broken machine, I really appreciate you beta and making this video.❤
I wish you the best in these upcoming months.❤
can i ask you about fursuit making?
how much time gets put in to a fursuit? and is it easter with a 3d printer?
@@191fox from what i've heard it can be months that can go twords ONE fursuit but it depends on skill level and suit complexity of course
Have you tried investing in patents, and maybe even manufacturing advice, foreign and not to make fursuit parts? And if that makes the manufacturing process longer, then put a discount on suits made this way! But what do I know?
it's sad, because i want to try fursuiting, but with these changes, it won't only be hard to find an available designer, but an affordable one.
@@dr.insignia7361 I’m planning to learn how to make my own fursuits and if they look good I’ll commission them for only the price of the materials, without the tariffs would be $750 but if the tariffs start once I’m able to start commissions $850 I will never charge anyone an arm and a leg for a fursuit because it won’t be a business to me but a hobby
I don't mean to come across as rude, but you could always try making your own! It's a fun time killer if you have the money.
Besides, what's more important anyway... food in the fridge and rent, or just blow through the majority of your money on something not important?
@@WarrezTheWolf Some people use a fursuit as a different personality, one where they can truly be themselves. While yes, this is non-essential, a lot of people find that having a fursuit provides them with a sense of joy, belonging, and self expression. For some people, this isn't just a hobby-it's a way to connect with a community and relieve stress in ways they might not be able to in their everyday lives. One way you could afford this without starving is putting a small amount of money in a saving account each day, that way you still have enough to sustain yourself. I'm sorry if this is not what you were talking about in your response, but I felt this could offer some insight.
Best,
DaxFox
I agree about the try and make one, first hand confirmed, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of work depending on the design, I suggest going partial first, maybe making a character specific to this fursuit to have the room to simplify the design a bit, but at the end of the day, it.s an option and it's fun to get a thing you didi
Fursuit making has been in jeopardy for a while now. My fursuit was considered overpriced at $2800 back in 2016. Now just getting a really basic lower end one is close to 4-5k. Trying to afford one just isn't feasible when it costs more than a used car.
That’s what I’m saying lol. As a maker, I get the higher prices. Material cost is crazy nowadays, and it already takes a large chunk. If you pay yourself minimum wage, you still end up in a high price range. Now… do I buy that dream fursuit or buy a car? The hardest question.
That’s inflation for you. Cost of living goes up so the makers raise prices to stay alive
Can confirm I would rather have a used car over a fursuit.
"Guys, the furry inflation situation is getting out of hand." Crazy intro xD
Man, people are REAAALLLY not going to be able to afford fursuits. Like… think about how majority of people “coming into” the fandom (young adults) can’t even afford rent rn….
Edit: some English fixes
English foxes?
America turning into a 3rd world country while the bankers and politicians who cause it live like Kings.
@@saif-0_0- foxes biscuits?
I agree with this, I am one of those young adults living penny to penny at the moment though things are getting better
Truly, it shouldn't rise over 5-25% increase. If the makers are buying 800$usd or less per day from China/Russia those are duty free minus Biden's proposal of textiles being exempted above a certain weight with data collection and a HS code requirement.
But that proposal needs final approval in a few months.
If fursuits are doubling, they are doing this under a "scare tactic" for more profit not actual increase in materials. That will not fly with most consumers either as there will be a decrease in buyers.
I made my own suit head and honestly that really informed my respect for makers, their skill, their quality and their prices
Impressive! Good for you!
I've tried making them with the dumbest things. A plastic "red solo" cup, a shirt, and I don't even remember what was the head.
I've never has the stuff to actually make one. And after taking 2 sewing classes, I still cannot sew.
Oh nice. I've made a couple so far. It was interesting going from A to B. Definitely takes a lot of time.
Tariffs are going to hurt fursuit makers, especially the new and small ones. A lot of them aren’t going to make it after these tarrifs, even the experienced ones are scared. I feel like the ones who have the biggest chance of making it are the most popular ones with years of experience, just cause they’re already high in demand and are popular, but what happens when the cost of living becomes too expensive to even afford a luxury item that high? They already charge more than the average, so even they may struggle after charging even more JUST to cover materials. It’s not fair, at least have the suits be more due to the artist getting paid their worth
Tarrifs are going to incentivise things to be made domesticly again.
A hard but nessesairy step to ending globalization.
cheap fursuits must be the policy stance of the US 🤓
You guys went from grocery stores price gauging (At 2% profit margins) people, to saying 5 thousands for a suit is not price gauging and a 20k suit is just supply and demand 😂
Your cloths being tariffed will not impact your suit, as TONS of this crap comes in from small people shipping from the UK and other countries to a high earning country like the US where they have INSANE tarriffs imposed on not only us but other countries.
The fact that you also think that this 10% tariff will come into play is absolutely crazy, multiple times in 2016 and in recent talks with Canadian Justin Trudeau, former Mexican president, China , Trump has used these tarriffs as leverage. Biden is the only one to impose sanctions (A non money making way of just banning goods while also raising the price as we have to switch to domestic sources or switch to another country) yet nobody is complaining about this.
Nobody cares about what people on the spectrum think about the economy 💀 Went from unions banning Children from working in the US to just purchasing cloths made by extremely underpaid children who get abused.
@@rere-x6g you are secretly a furry arent you~ so infatuated in the beautiful fursuits that you wrote a whole essay about furries!~ you love furry paws~
Why would they be scared though? You offset costs to your customers.
@@rere-x6g nice story bro, come back to me when I care how you think 😂
I've been so scared to commission a fursuit for years. I finally decided to try and make my own, it's been coming along really great! So I highly agree with the whole "Pick it up" because you may be able to make your own suit, you just have to give it a try and do your research on tutorials!
I made my own too and it's decent! It needs some repair and final touches but it kinda works lol
Made a partial for my brother. Has some problems but it was the first one we made so eh.
Second fursuit I did was a full suit, moveable jaw, realistic eyes, magnetic pieces so I can take things off easily for transport and customizations, leg paddings, long tail, ect. My now personal fursuit is done.
Basically I had way less fear in learning and messing around with stuff after the first goofy partial try.
Budget for a partial trial run is what I reccomend. We spent around 250$ for the partial materials. I spent around 500$-600$ to make my fullsuit.
It was alot of work, 2 months of work.
Free time is about the only thing stopping me. I've been gradually stocking up materials as I find discounts and scraps at JoAnn and thrift stores, and could probably put together a nice partial of my sona by now if I wasn't buried in work and general survival.
Yeahh make your own!
Ive found some good foam from skipbins, cleaned and it is good quality.
Fur will be harder to get, but i always keep an eye out for scraps and stuff secondhand stores and craft stores.
Making it yourself means your bound to make mistakes, but i think it will be worth the result
As a costume maker whose portfolio is about 40% fursuit related I've been feeling the burn of the price increases just within the past 2 years, and business has decreased dramatically. If these changes happen I worry for all small business owners. Thank you for sharing this info so others outside the maker circles can learn what we're facing right now.
Yeah. That's because any time the politicians talk about "small business owners" being the backbone of the economy they mean the "small business" of "local McDonald's franchisee".
I've had more sales way back in my first years as a maker where my quality was like a little kids. Got decent quality now and half the market price pricing and still no sales. If I would have to rely on this business for income I'd have been homeless on month 2 of operation. I would advise NOBODY to start with this business nowadays, its a waste of time
I hope the best for all fursuit makers out there!
edit - thanks for all the likes this was unexpected-
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Tariffs are ruff...
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This is horrifying. It feels like so many people are going to be squeezed out of business. It only helps the top get higher up, not the smaller business owners. If this happens, it's going to be very difficult to justify living in the US. Even if you make your own suit, the prices will still have gone up by a significant amount. Thanks for the information! This vid was very helpful.
I can fully understand why fursuits can be a bit high involving price.
I admit though I had no idea some fursuit makers go full time with that. The idea involving the difficulty in doing that full time is admittedly hard for me to understand and if somebody can do that I honestly think thats great.
I know there is a big sacrifice in becoming a full time artists and honestly I think being full time fursuit maker would require a lot of sacrifice if not more.
I don't think I have ever thought a fursuit was too expensive because I think of how custom designs for things are usually high mainly because of the work put into them.
Like beta said the fursuit makers aren't machines.
Anyway I hope the fursuit makers continue to find a way to work around what was discussed in this video.
The sight of a great fursuit is truly something I think worth every cent and work put into the suit to make it look great.
Keep up the awesome videos beta.
The amount of hours involved in a suit pretty much require it be a full-time gig if you're doing more than one or two a year, and even then some builds are over the top on the time investment as a singular piece knowing cosplayers who've spent weeks on a single part trying to get it done right or having to start from scratch because something broke badly. There's just too much involved and the money just isn't there to support them for most people so yeah it's going to hurt makers and their wannabe clients.
Hope the best for all furrsuit makers
It hurts the part of my brain that loves history to see so many people who didn't understand what tariffs were until it was too late. Hell even just in the US tariffs have a history of existing only to discourage people from buying a product by making the price far above other products. The problem being the US can't physically have the capability to domestically manufacture all things that currently get imported. I feel extra bad that people like fursuit makers are going to get double screwed because in times of hardship the first thing to go is luxuries.
Hopefully this does not mean that traditional art supplies will gather a larger price tag on them, as it may also affect art students as well.
Quite likely. If you get a 'made in the USA' art product, there is still a high chance the pigment, the base, any of the other /things/ that go into said mediums are created using raw goods imported from countries such as China, so the prices of said art products will go up.
we inport so much everything will be harder to buy simply due to needing to spend more on other things
We live in a global economy, attempting to raise prices globally is only going to make living costs that much more expensive. Its creating artificial inflation... to reduce inflation apparently.
Even if we started today, it would take *years* to build the industrial capacity to offset the costs, and in the meantime we'll all be stuck paying more, while he does what he did the first time and cuts taxes for the companies and their ceos.
@@callsignapollo_This is what happens when a clueless conman is allowed to become President _again_
It does mean that trad art supplies will become more expensive as well since most of our supplies of everything is imported, especially from China.
Legit, I’ve attempted to make my own fursuits. It’s trial and error and a lot of material costs. I’ve also seen what my friend has to go through as a one person team fursuit maker. Never complain about the prices of a custom made luxury item when you have not spent a day learning the craft. Make it yourself or pipe down.
Tariffs are so harmful! Like idk if I need to give a history lesson, but Tariffs were one regressions for the GREAT DEPRESSION. We are literally forgetting how bad it is, can we have someone in office who actually knows history for once?
Your not looking at the right groups, he likely knows, and for him and the owners of the largest companies they are better then not. After all sometimes a huge company will self sabotage if it means smaller companies who can't take as much loss die off allowing the major companies like amazon to fill in the void. Edit: Who knows he might even be doing it for Putin, as it does also serve him for US to do something like this.
You'd think they would already know how bad it can get since the past two US presidents look like they've lived through most of human history...
@ okay no but the human history got me. That is amazingly true!
@@jeffery9543Biden claimed he was in the Senate 150 years ago after all. Yes he really said that.
@@roflryan1they are both senile, but trump does it on purpose
Hey, I hope someone sees this comment. I'm a maker from Ukraine, and I have quite decent prices. There are many affordable suit makers that worth your attention.
thats nice
Good to know...
On the off chance I ever go to Ukraine, I'll make sure to look for a suit
Presumably the tarriffs will also apply to your suits, though, if you're shipping them to the US
As someone who is an artist that does commission work and already has it tough due to struggling to get customers, this will only make things worse with the whole tariff plan being put into place. Making things way more expensive for U.S. customers to buy. 😦
At the end of the day you don’t need a fur suit to be a furry and they are a luxury item. I wish all the artists and fur suit creators luck in the next year.❤
despite it being not needed those that want them and those that make a living off of making them could suffer from this if it becomes a reality.
@@davidmccall4024unfortunately that’s the reality of luxury items. If you decide to make a living by making a luxury item youre accepting the risk that your business is at the total whims of the economy
It’s almost like there will soon be a huge market for fursuits that are made outside of the US and are then shipped into the US from places like Canada, Australia and Europe where the tariffs do not exist while the fursuits being made in those countries would seemingly not be effected by the tariffs! That means a ton of makers might be forced to relocate to Canada to keep their businesses financially viable.
But wouldn’t those fursuits get tariffed too? Aren’t the tariffs going to affect ALL products coming into US?
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Apparently it was mostly for products coming from China but allied countries like Canada will seemingly have much lower tariffs and I also remember seeing that both Canada and Mexico are strongly against the tariffs.
That's not even taking into account the new policy/cost changes to shipping from UK.
*Shipping alone, not a tax on the items themselves.
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Yeah it’s like already any products that are imported into the UK are often significantly more expensive there than other places due to those shipping expenses which is why Apple products are currently more expensive there.
Also remember, it's not just fursuits that will rise in price, everything will since the competition will decrease. You think food prices will stay low now that the competition from overseas can't match existing prices? Gaps will be filled and the cost of living will rise. Suits will go up nearly 1.5x, and available spending money will probably go down 1.5x.
Yep, there will be a global 10-20% tariff, and a 10-20% increase in the price of domestic products, because theres a business opportunity to do nothing and make more money
I just got into making specialty fursuits like use your own eye fursuits. Problem is stretchy fur is very useful for the hoods but the main supplier i've found is in Japan so it will be much harder to get it though luckily it's not the 60% to 100% increase. I don't make a lot of money and since I don't sell my suits I may not be able to justify making them and getting good enough to sell. Thank you for talking about this topic more.
my favorite kind of suit!
Fursuits and art will be, and always have been, for better or worse, a luxury item.
It was a life goal to be a dealer at MFF and being near Half Moon studios for the con was a double win! as a new suit maker myself, it was awesome to get some insider tips and info from the makers there
It was my goal too 🥰
It was my goal too 🥰
Thank you 🙏
BetaEtaDelota is right, we do not need fursuits to enjoy being a furry. I am sick and tired of people complaining about not having a fursuit and cannot go to a furry convention because they don’t have one. YOU DON’T NEED A FURSUIT TO GO TO A CONVENTION!!!!
While I both understand your frustration and agree with your point about not needing a fursuit.
Try to think about it from the non suitors perspective:
1.) They probably really want to go to a convention. They want to meet other furries and interact with people who share the common interest... But don't feel comfortable putting themselves out there at the risk of being on camera without a suit.
2.) It sort of feels like elementary school when it's halloween and they're doing parties in the classroom... And the one kid that doesn't have a costume feels left out. It's just not as fun.
To clarify, yes you are correct. People do not need a fursuit in order to be considered a fellow-fur. But I can understand the other side of it. Some people may see it as a right of passage.
"When I go to my very first convention.I want to go all out so I need a suit!"
"Go big or go home" sort of a thing. Honestly, I'm one of said people. I really want to go to a convention one day. But I want it to be with a suit! It would be much more enjoyable and worth it.
I already went to a con, my first one, and a 2nd one. I think my con going is probably going to be limited to just Arizona, my home state, but unfortunately it’s a shame with the fursuit making thing. Good news though is that I’ll likely not be getting a suit until 2027 at the bare minimum, likely 2028-29 or even 2030.
@ Now properly explained like you just did, I can get behind that. The only thing I’m sick and tired of is my friends that complain about not having a fursuit and not wanting to go to a convention without one they just keep complaining about it without explaining it like you did.
It’s basically like explain why you want the fursuit to go to your first convention like it’s the right of passage, I can get behind that. Thank you for your reply.
not necessarily, I noticed a lot faux fur websites are from Europe, the tariffs that Trump said that he wants to do is against Canada, Mexico, and China to punish them for the illegal immigrant problem.
Which I looked it up and he’s not going to tax imports from Europe, just from Canada, Mexico, and China. So any fursuit makers that get their faux fur from Europe should be fine, keyword “should”
Ngl lots of people like to troll so it makes sense to not let people in the convention without one
America is just becoming the pits of hell
It's been that way for awhile.
Ah yes, because there's a tariff on a very specific product and literally no other reason
@@verylostdoommarauderOh no, it's because there's a tariff of one specific product and *many* other reasons. Including tariffs on basically every other product in existence.
Always has been.
@@verylostdoommarauder tariffs on a pretty radicated setup of commerce extended thought a Urbi et Orbe approach.
that's the difference between pointing at a nascar racer that received a bribe for a loss, and the entire season being planned and all racers involved in the set of pre-determined victories and losses
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People act like the auction hosts are the ones who set the price...
like babes.. its an AUCTION.. bands WILL be thrown left and right, let ppl spend their money how they please 😭
Funny thing is, there’s a chance auctions will become the norm soon if makers can only do this part time due to cost of living being too high and needing a new full time job
@@MiniMooseMadness exactly!! they better start getting used to seeing auctions go upwards of 15k MINIMUM now
Yeah. If you dont like it just comment and move on, they exist for the reason. If the prices too high find another one but quality is not guarantee
I just opened my commissions for the first time.. already, i'm thinking about upping my prices because of what the cost of materials will look like for a while. i wanted to make a studio that could provide high quality results with low prices but I don't think that will ever be a reality...
Honestly, kind of same here. I wanted to learn how to make fursuits so I could try taking commissions at some point but now I am probably going to be completely unable to afford the materials to learn without saving for multiple years :(
Its definitely frustrating but fingers crossed yk (Hope for the best; Expect the worst, that way you're never disappointed. thats what i was always told.)
I also had this dream. I wanted to keep my prices more accessible for what I thought the work was worth, but the material price is driving the prices up so so much.
I plan on doing them in the future, I hope that I won’t have to make mine super expensive… I don’t think the time it takes me (I’m a hard procrastinator) will make it worth the price…
The thing is that they are too expensive but in a way like how a car is expensive, i know that they aren't price like that because they know people will spend more or for the lols they are expensive because the stuff is, that doesn't make it any less unreasonable for people who can't afford it such as myself, I know some people particularly on Twitter believe that they are unreasonably priced for no reason but they are the exception not the rule
A lot of the cost is labor related and skill related. I think it's also demand based. At least when it comes to the well known makers.
Smaller makers are usually under a certain amount and still produce decent quality. It may not be pro quality but it's good enough to where it's the same.
Materials however have been going up in cost the last few years. Enough fur and other fabrics for one partial suit is going to be bout 400-500 dollars in cost for fabric alone because you need 1-2 yards of a color for most suits. Ofc the cost decreases if the maker already has the colors needed on hand.
But generally the larger costs you see is for the big name makers.
Small and beginning makers and some smaller pro makers, are going to be in that more affordable range.
However suits are also a luxury. So getting a high end maker suit is another luxury in of itself.
I'd say if you want to get a suit. Save for one from a small but reputable maker. Most small makers that have been doing it a while though are going to be in the 600-1000 range for a partial or fullsuit.
Below that range is other smaller makers or new/beginning makers.
I have major respect for all the artists in the fandom, I’m very thankful that they put out such beautiful work
With how many things aren't even made here in the US anymore... This is bad. This isn't just gonna effect fursuits. This is going to effect car parts, furniture. Nearly everything. It's not looking good
It can even lead as I said in the other comment to less things being made in US in some areas. For things to be made people 1)Need to be able to afford to buy said good. 2)The good needs cheap enough raw resources to be made. I fear that fursuits would be one example of such a good.
@asdf30111 Exactly... This idea of imposing these tariffs is ridiculous. Most things aren't even MADE in the US anymore. And where we are economically at the moment, this could be catastrophic.
As a Canadian fursuit maker the cost of shipping fur from HowlFabric in the U.S. is more then the cost of the fur it's self.
That kind of argument is kind of why I haven't started our commissions yet I really want to but I don't want to be baffled by a people saying that my prices are too expensive or are asking when their commissions are done due to the fact that I would have to work and go to college at the same time
For the latter, you'd just need to mention that art is a side hobby in your TOS! Anyone who commissions you agrees to your terms, and by commissioning you, they acknowledge that their art will take a bit due to commissions not being a full-time gig for you.
@blacklight_sunset thanks for the info
well i mean i have no problem buying expensive stuff, but you need to start somewhere, when you got AAA Prices and didnt have a single Commision, noone will buy that...there is just to much Competition.
i think Artists need to get a Steady Pay Increase.
i mean yes its not good to Sell low, but i think thats the only way to get somewhere...
3 weeks x 40 hours per week x $15.hour minimum for a living wage = $1.800 fgor labor alone, and I consider $15/h for a draftsman to be half or less what it should be. You are welcome to try making a fursuit on your own, and I know people who have done an excellent job first time, but most of us do not have the ability or time. That is why we pay $5-10K.
Now add a 25% tariff for anything from Mexico or Canada, 35%+ for China, 10-20% form the rest of the world. I saw estimates of an average cost of $4K/year back when Trump was talking about a 10% tariff. Fursuit makes need to make enough money to at least survive. I may not have the money to pay them what they want after Trump takes office and crashes the economy, but I do not begrudge them setting a fair pride for their work.
It's wild. I got my partial back in 2014 from an (then) up and coming fursuit maker and paid 550$ for a head, hand paws, tail, and foot paws (sadly, they disappeared off the face of the earth, even though I had a lifetime warranty on my suit and it's been starting to show it's age even with the repairs a friend and I have been able to do). At Anthrocon this year, I saw people selling JUST heads for 1500$! JUST A HEAD!! And it would have made sense if it was a Big Name fursuit maker or something along the lines, but these were people I had never heard of using pre-made bases. If you're looking for a pre-made 2500$ might get you a head and hand paws and, if you're lucky, a tail, but you are grossly limited to the usual species. If you have a fursona of an animal that is less popular, you are SOL unless you can commission someone and that's gonna cost you these days. But there's a couple of pre-made base making companies that practically do the hardest part for you, it'll be cheaper to make your own at this point and, honestly? It's easier to do so now too.
What I'm planning to focus on as a would-be buyer/maker: first, obviously, making my own! There's nothing like looking at your fursona in the real world and knowing: yea, you DID that!! You made that with your own two hands!! And secondly, getting into VR spaces! Get a custom 3D "suit" of your sona and rep them in the digital space! I've been wanting to save up for my first VR headset but I've determined I'm not going to buy one until I have my first VRchat-ready 3D model finished so I can go all-in
It seems strange to have this release 1 week after a video talking about a fursuit making class
As a fursuit maker, prices are already so expensive.. I don't exactly know what im going to do at this point 😿
I feel that people will move to VRC as away to be their fursona.
Vrc is pricey but it's cheaper and more eco-friendly than going through so many fursuits when you change design on your fursona.
People don't toss their old suits. They either refurb them if changes are made or they sell the old suit to someone else and get the new one. A suit usually is suppose to last 10+ years before you retire it. And even then most people keep their old suits on hand in storage to avoid them being thrown away.
Vrc became big in 2020 as well so a lot of people do use it I will say
as an upcoming maker: people may hate this but I plan to make scrap suits: all materials besides headbases, eye blanks, and resin claw/teeths/etc. will thrifted scrap materials as well as cheaper fleeces to make suits
I think that's a cool idea tbh
@@lunawolfheart336 thanks I hope by thrifting suits and making things out of sherpa and throw blankets instead of minky will at least make a fraction of the community not only cheaper but overall more sustainable I will have a policy of also reducing costs if someone wants to bring in their own materials once im fully established
I'm dreading what this might mean for suit makers outside of the US, too. Manufacturers upping their prices, on top of shipping costs being ridiculous and cost of living stuff, because of these tariffs, might put some makers out of business. In Australia, shipping stuff from overseas is eye-wateringly expensive- yes, fursuits are luxury items and not necessary, but if people are choosing between a fursuit and rent, they're gonna choose rent. I hope this isn't the case, I've seen some amazing talent in the community, it would be a shame to see it go to waste because of this shit.
Yea this stuff really hits things for me because the maker I wanna commission is from Khazakstan and has a really fair price. Price is going to go from $1200 for the partial to probably $1600 with the coming changes. Just makes everything so much harder.
Hey Beta, just coming around to check out how well this video did! Thank you again for making such a well researched and genuine video that really helps share what us makers and small business owners are going though. 🙏 appreciate your hard work and support!
Thank you for making this video. Im a small fursuit maker located in Canada Ontario, and when i calculated my material cost vs my time/work, i found out that 50% of my income goes towards materials, and I dont charge as much as other makers do. I still need to pay rent and bills and im lost on what to do. Ive been a fursuit maker for 6 years now, and this year has been the worst year when it comes to making income. I thought i was alone here but after looking at other maker's comments on their situation, I feel so bad for every single one of you. If you have stayed to read this and feel the same, you got this and I hope we all can get past this. The burn out is insane for a lot of us and I wish the best for everyone❤
when he said “furry inflation” i’d be thinking something else…. 😅😅😅
That's the joke
My maker name is Felt Furfillment, I make my fursuits with Needle Felting polyester (plush and pillow stuffing) for heads. I haven't tried feet paws or padding yet.
I started needle felting for almost a year now and got the hang of shapeing. I would love to teach others how to use this technique. I also use yarn to make fur. Yarn is easy to get ahold of and can be reused.
Have an awesome day! 🥰🦔
This whole situation depresses me, I remember when I entered the fandom around 8 years ago the average price for a suit was $2,000 and you can get a fursuit head for under $1,000, my jaw dropped recently when I heard someone paid $2,000 for a head, I'm hearing that full suits are going for 4 to 6 k is truly traumatizing for me.
I understand thats fursuits are luxury items and that the artist and makers need to make money but it crushes my soul that many people like me are now going to be priced out of a iconic part of the fandom 😞
Inflation sucks.
I agree, if you don't have the money then don't ask its that simple, plus being a artist is also the same, we have stress on money so we go to art to make money, same with fursuit makers, just be lucky that you not being scammed and they are willing to make it for you
Don't worry... it's not over. It will never be over. :3
3:31 This is horrible.. Especially for people like myself with autism, has a hard time working with people sometimes, and it's easier having motivation doing something I love of course, anything I could be good with, and this could end up being what I, or something else would have to do, if good at it, who knows, and for everyone else out there possibly having to quit or make it a side job is terrible. :( I'm so sorry for anyone going through it right now. Stay safe.
I’ve always wanted to have a fursuit head, but most heads have typical art styles and whatever style that is closest to look slightly reminiscent to my style (Kemono), it costs my house, my belongings, and my limbs.
Not everyone has the skills to make their own and they’d have to spend more years to figure it out just right and need a LOT of money to spend on supplies to make ONE fur head.
Furry Inflation just got real
I am a new suitmaker, just starting out and it is scary AF. It may be a good time to try one of us out.
i literally just started my hand at suit making and of course now when i finally have a grasp on what i wanna do, its pretty much all over
I personally work in Europe, but I've had people commission me from US too. My heart goes out to all makers and suiters who'll be dealing with all of this...
People saying you do not need a suit, but at the end of the day having one makes it all helluva lot more fun than just having badges around your neck sadly
Thank you! I think it's important to bring this info out there and help people understand why prices might go up.
I work in European customer support, and many US customers have no idea that you have to pay taxes when importing goods.
Yeah these next years are going to be rough. Im literally cutting off a lot of things besides the bare minimal things. I was planning on getting a head, paws and legs with clothes on top but that went down the drain. I hope things change or just stay the same. Im even not going to auctions almost due to that was my side hustle for money due to gas costs might be up. At least we still got each other and hopfully the art commissions wont go up. I can still get those cause no one gonna impose an e-tariff hahahaha
Oh those tariffs could be breaking one of the main rules of cyber security: “don’t mess with fury’s or face the wrath of like half the world’s best hackers and IT experts”
"furry inflation situation" means something VERY DIFFERENT
Even as a small maker like myself. This vdeio needed to be made and even more so broadcasted.
As a Canadian maker my prices won't be changing really unless someone from USA commissions me and sorry but then they are eating that tariff cost. Not my fault they live there haha
Real talk - Orange man threatened this before when he was in power and it never happened. This is just a scare tactic for negotiations.
This is just a scare tactic for negotiations.
it is, unfortunately, but it's also a terrible tactic, it's the equivalent of me threatening someone with violence for a 10% discount. It's silly.
At the rate things going Canada might just become apart of America 🇺🇸... we will see
I hope it is just a scare tactic
It might be best to hope for the best and prepare for the worst
Well techincally if you gave the fursuit as a gift, and they _just soo happen_ to send a check in the mail with the exact amount the gift happened to be worth...... no Tarrif....
Yeah, i couldn’t afford a new car because of the 2017 tariffs
Rename the video to "American fursuit making is over."
I find it irritating that they say that the tariffs may replace income tax. The whole income tax system we have now was put in place to REPLACE the need for tariffs, altogether. I wonder why...
I have no idea what to add to this conversation so I'm just going to leave a comment that says "your video is really cool, and insightful, and informational" so hopefully the algorithm will use it and pick it up for something idk
I do wanna say though that I also highly respect fursuit makers and their crafty skills.
Hope you're doing well 👍
If we want the tariff to go away, we need to do something. There is a way to contact the white house, there is email, phone number, and paper mail. I would suggest putting in one of these regarding this tariff and how it could impact many peoples lives significantly.
You're terribly naive to think they'll listen. It was their idea.
@@ImDelphox I know it won't work, but... I don't even know how to respond actually, but I know it won't do anything.
This tariff is heavily needed though. The U.S deficit has gotten worse the past 4 years and we need to start paying it back instead of giving money out.
@@Octuly yeah and obviously the people who should be paying that deficit are poor shmucks trying to afford groceries and not the billionaires who have been fleecing the entire country for all it's worth
@@ImDelphox So those tariffs are only there to tell the government of that said country to stop doing a certain activity and the tariff will be gone. It could take a day, it could take a year or less. Its up to that said country.
1:45 people who say “you should lower your prices you are too expensive” FUNDAMENTALLY do not understand how capitalism(and how basic economic principles)works.
Because(in a free market)IF your prices are too high for a product in demand, then competition in the form of other companies/businesses will lower THEIR OWN prices to get the money that you are missing out on, and if you want to remain in business, then you better lower your price before you go out of business.
Because only 65% of the potential profits is still OBJECTIVELY better than 0% of the profits…
The ONLY time that excuse is warranted is if it’s being told to a socialist/communist regime that stole the “means of production” and has a monopoly over all the industries via all of the industries being nationalized in one way or another.
Legal Monopolies physically do not exist under a capitalist system. They ONLY exist if a government intervenes on behalf of a corporation and CORRUPTS the economy into a pseudo-socialist system with nationalized industries in all but name.
2:25
"All I know is that being a freelance business owner is stressful"
So real
I mowed lawns last summer because both of the jobs I was gonna get weren't available. Farm job wasn't available because all the tomato plants died. I was gonna work for a home renovation company kind of under the table, but there wasn't enough work. So, I mowed lawns. I made about 300 dollars. total. after expecting to make at least 3,000.
Part of the point is that the american economy will be boosted bc items made in America are going to be cheaper. But, do you really think if every company outside of America is charging $10 more that American companies will not start to charge just as much as their competitors from outside the country?
For that to work, you can't also tariff the raw resources we can't properly supply. Nor can you tariff so much all at once, as then people won't be able to even buy luxury goods even if someone did want to make them in the US.
I've been wanting to try fursuiting for the experience. Though I don't have a lot of sewing experience and still not that financially stable. I know that people who make fursuits definitely need the money for their hard work, which makes things more difficult for them due to pricing going up. I hope that even with the price going up, that fursuit makers can still make some money.
I think people forget fursuits are made using materials, and when those materials go up in price, the suit does too
I am so glad I got my sewing machine imported from Canada when I did. I cannot even survive off my wages of making suits right now. Its become a very stressful situation for myself and my family. Its shifted the financial burden to my husband
I'm not so much into stress because my freelance company isn't just craftsmanship, but also just general freelance platform work (which will always be required for years to come). But I want to thank you anyway for mentioning that sans the requirement for wanting to live from our passion and craftsmanship, we do it for the fullmination aswell. Afterall, to me, succes without fullmination is in my eyes the ultimate failure.
By extension, pricing my products for consumers is one of the hardest tasks just because of the general notion that I truly don't want to make things that expensive, but with how the world works, I have to. I can compensate here and there and it adds up for both me and the client (and its a learning experience that makes me better at my craft as well as going with the times), but there's a limit until it starts to become a detriment which is something I ought to avoid.
I'll be fine, in the end. I'm just in general a wary person and most things are decisions I have control and thought over. Just wish things were different is all, even if I accepted it.
And even if you do buy "Made in USA" fur and foam how much of that is just retail import?
I've tried to make my own fursuit didn't end up too well that's why I wanted to commission one I've been setting aside $100 from my paycheck every month and with this change I'm going to have to be doing that for much much longer and I know it's not the fursuit maker's fault but damn I do wish I could get one
The pick up the needle part was very funny. I've never made a fursuit, bit I can imagine the urge to say something like that!
0:08 DIABOLICAL
i think it’s gross no one will commission me for a reasonable price and then some artists can sell $700 ych’s just because they’re a popular name and not because their art is good
I'm just hoping the tariffs won't apply to digital goods as well, because if they do, then literally everything is going to get more expensive. There's a lot of games, models, and more that are all made outside of the US. A large chunk of furry avatars for VRChat are made outside of the US as well.
Fursuit makers in canada are having a field day now, since it will be cheaper for them to import stuff and sell it to the states than the makers in the states selling the suits directly to the customers in the states. The tarifs are just stupid even looking from europe. It will just hurt the economy. Hope the makers can live through the next 4 years.
I've always wanted a fursuit, now I'll never get one. I won't even be able to afford food anymore.
This economy is completely fucked
Because we divorced production from it. It's 90% gambling on Wall Street.
"The furry inflation situation is crazy"
I wish the best for all the fursuit makers,artist and etc out there! Its really stressful
Im really glad i even got lucky buying a partial fursuit from a group for selling fursuits, at the price it was. I dont think I could ever afford to make my personal fursona come to life and thats okay😅 who knows maybe one day!
Anyways great vid!
A year ago, you reached 250k, Now you're at 328k. Big fan eatbetadelota, keep it up
You are definitely telling the truth. Fursuit makers are amazing people and are a true artist. I hope none of those terrific go threw. Just cuz im so worried about them. Yes the price increases is going to be inevitable but , the insanity that people will thing that Fursuit makers don't have a life. That is just completely asinine.
As a freelance artist it is rough out here I severely undercharge for my art/skills as I don't want to block out a large number of people who cant afford expensive art or just want to support me. (No shame to artist who price high you deserve it and should price your art at its value!) I work a part time job on top of my artwork and I can only see freelance work getting harder from here on out sadly. I really feel for fursuit makers or artists who have to buy supplies to make their works.
I have always wanted a fursuit for over 7 years now but have never been about to justify the cost (living is expensive/life throws things at you lol) maybe one day!
I feel its going to get very dystopian (more than already is) as who will be able to afford going to cons or setting up shops. Its just a mess.
Stay safe everyone!
As a suitmaker im So glad youve made this video💚
Ngl fursuit making may end up being a dying medium within this fandom. That or fursuit making is going to drastically change and suits may look way different in the future. There just isn't enough ppl who have the passion and the money to buy an overpriced walking carpet, when u can buy a car. The customers are going to dwindle real quick unless something changes
good news is the majority of the cost for fur suits comes from the labor cost. were as material is normally around 35% of the total cost. so realistically you can expect a 35% increase and thats assuming a 100% increase on tariffs, more likely to be lower
I didn't think I'd be getting an economics lesson today but I'm glad I did. I wanted to get into making suits but I guess it's another dead end idea now.
so glad i got and made most of my fursuits 5 years ago🙏 $300 each for the both i bought and hq
Well.. my dreams ruined. Dont think ill ever be able to get one now.
I just bought handmade ears and a tail because it's not only affordable but it's super cute! I cannot afford a fursuit sadly
I dont know if fursuit makers will completely lose work. Economic pressure usually leads to innovation and adaptation.
Faux fur is already an expensive material, so cuatomers and makers may eventually shift to a different material.
I know I've already seen an uptick in lycra bodysuits lately, some with foam padding to get the overall shape of the character. Couple the bodysuit with a traditional mask and it could bring the cost down to something more accessible and therefore preferable in most cases.
I guess its similar to how with the UK makers we usually have to import fur from America which is extremely expensive with shipping and customs. But are expected to charge the same amount as US makers, even though our material cost is double-triple the amount. I wonder if it will sort of even out the pricing between UK and US makers and allow us UK makers to charge more.
I've slowly been getting into fursuit making more, (I listed my first fully made raptor mask this year!) But I'm very much someone who doesn't have the funds to do any idea I have, anytime I want- The fur I used FOR the raptor specifically I had gotten over 2 years ago. Like I'm definitely not as affected as people who have been officially making for 8+ years, but it just sucks because it's like the world is continuing to go to shit. So difficult not to let the chronic depression suck you up and make everything worse when everytime you turn around there's yet another garbage thing going on :
In the past a few years back I looked into a partial suit and it was way out of my budget but I understand the pricing. I'll just stick to VR for now as that gives me something to hide behind to feel comfortable.
-No joke some avatars are also getting a little pricey but again I respect the artist wanting/ needing to make money.-