How to Choose Your First Custom Paddle | Table Tennis [Subtitles Available]
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In this video I review how to choose your table tennis racket piece by piece. I explain the type of rubbers and blades that are best for developing players. This is geared towards people looking to build their first custom table tennis bat. I am honest in what you need at the early stages of your game. If you are serious about improving at table tennis, watch the whole video! - กีฬา
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Amazing video. Great tips and wide coverage in relatively short time. Many thanks Jin Jeon!
THANK YOU. Man. It's been so annoying trying to find good info on what kind of bat to get. Really appreciate this video.
Great video my friend. After years of playing , I can say is the best video I´ve seen about this topic. TY VERYMCH.
Thank you sir! I'm glad it helped =)
Your explanation is like a brilliant bonus to Emratthich's channel's video on choosing a racket setup. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Gerard. I'm hoping to get more people to enjoy this game and a good racket setup helps a lot.
You would make a great TT coach Jin! Thanks for the vids.
I really appreciate your compliment Sam. I'm here to help.
Wow! I would recommend this video to anyone planning to build their first rackets.
This is the most useful video I've found on how to pick rubbers and blade for your table tennis bat. Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you. I am back and will be making new videos!
Really well explained. Great video!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Hi, well done for your comments. Simple and precise. I wish I had a comment on the thickness of the rubbers and the hardness. Thanks you
Great point. Is there anything I can help you with regarding the thickness and hardness of rubbers?
So short, but how helpful is it! Thank you!
Thank you! Hope you are having fun playing
This was just so amazing thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed it Ireesh! Thanks for tuning in. Let me know if I can answer any other questions in the future.
The best video, great explanation.
Thank you for watching Panapong Chansopa.
Great video! You nicely simplified all the complexity associated with getting a custom paddle. I wish I'd seen this four months ago when I returned to table tennis after a long hiatus. I'm an intermediate player and wanted to get your thoughts on Nittaku G-1 2.0 as a forehand (and possibly backhand) rubber. It's the perennially best selling rubber in Asia (and also #1 on tabletennis11, the website you recommended). Also, hope you post new videos soon!
I am glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching. I actually used the Nittacku G-1 2.0 on both sides of my current setup! They are fast but for an intermediate player, they are manageable. You have great taste! ;)
One of the finest video! Needed your recommendation for blade thinking of using Mark V on both sides. Intermediate player with shakehand grip(European style).
Yasaka sweden extra.
Wow that was really help full thanks
Very informative. Thank you Jin !
Thank you. You are most welcome
Not played for many years now but always remember how novices made the error of buying too powerful a rubber. I was a fairly average club player and my rubber of choice was 2.0 Friendship 729 which was tacky but not too slow and had great control. I always loved playing people with Stiga Mark V. Invariably they loved being able to put loads of spin on their serve but if you had that worked out it was relatively easy to return and you almost gave them back their own spin with interest.
Great Video, thank you :)
Great advice...i subscribed
Great video. Any suggestions on sites to build your custom paddle. Also any recommendations on blades and rubbers that meet the criteria in your video?
What an excellent explanation, thank you so much. Subscribed. I am coming back to TT after 45 y. hiatus. Don't know anything about modern bats and rubber tbh, don't even remember what bat did I play with when in the Uni. Bought a Nittaku Violin with 2 mm Fastarc G-1 rubber on both sides ( Won't lie, half price offer was a factor :). Impressions after the first 2 hour session: a bit faster than expected (the rubber?). But the feel is interesting with flex, but control is here, feels and sounds like a quality paddle. Feedback is so strong, I never experienced it before. Still overhitting at times. The blade looks like a keeper, the rubber - I have no idea. Any thought on this blade/rubber combo for and old geezer coming back to TT after half a century in the wild and feeling like a beginner, trying to get my basics right again despite lots of inconsistency? I heavily rely on spin in my game.
Excellent Video. Coming back to this sport. Where do you recommend shopping online for a Custom paddle?
Fantastic tips covered. Wish I had known this years ago. But it's never too late.
It really is never too late! We all change equipment as time goes on. What are you playing with now?
Heartiest Thanks this is helpful
Glad it was helpful!
good video! very informative.
Thanks friend! Glad you like it =)
Hey man love thw vids! Question what non tenser rubber should i buy from stiga. Thanks. All love.
Stiga Mendo is very basic rubber from Stiga. Give it a try!
Great video, I’m looking to go with the joola classic all tennis blade, joola max 450 table tennis rubber for backhand, and Joola Dynaryz ACC rubber for forehand. Any thoughts? Also do you know where I could get this setup put together instead of doing it myself?
Excellent explanation, sir!
I appreciate it Thoeun Kong. I'm just out here trying to help people get started on the right track!
@@TechnicalTableTennis well, keep it up. I'll stay tuned for your future videos.
honest recommendations, thx!
You’re welcome Byrin! Thank you for your comment.
bro, you are so good!!!! Your explanation is very good, I think im getting the chineese one since it can produce a crazy amount of spin and not very fast which is controllable, thank you so much for the explanation. Im thinking to get a Forfar rubber but im not sure if it as good since they didn't really talked which type of rubber it is. We would like to see a review about that rubber please ;)
Thanks Mustafa! I personally go the Chinese route myself. The style is just so unbelievably fun to watch. I can’t buy the forfar rubber. From what I am told they will stink up an entire house lol
@@TechnicalTableTennis yea you aactually true, i saw the reviews in amazon and they all says it will make the place smell so bad lol. Thank you!
Lol. You’re welcome!
Hi I am new to your page and find your clips very helpful. Thank you for all of your explanations. I appreciate you haven't mentioned any names so as to not advertise and keep this educational. But Can you recommend what's the best blade and rubber and where to purchase it for beginners? Thank you.
I always recommend Yasaka Mark V 2mm on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Any 5 ply all wood blade will do with speed in the offensive minus to the allround level
Hi, nice review and nice tip. I am intermediate player and I play lot of fh with Butterfly Rozena tenser rubber. What chinese rubber do you recomend foe forehand? Pls put name of brand and model.
Love the video! The amount of choices is overwhelming but with your help it narrows it down a lot. What do you think of the Stiga Infinity VPS? i have been training 2 times a week for six months and my coach recommended a get a faster blade. I want to learn to play with chinese styles rubbers, tacky and hard sponges
Did you buy the infinity?
@@Counterstrikeforce Hi! Yeah got around October and paired it with Nittaku H3 Blue and a Fastarc G1. It has been a blast, it definitely takes more discipline and time to play Chinese style but I am seeing the results now, can't be lazy and technique has to be on point
Sir, greetings from India. I just found out your channel n started watching it. Your videos are really helpful. I started playing TT since 1.5 year back n but somehow I feel till date my basics are not okay. After playing a year, my coach suggests me for a custom raquet n I bought a Tibhar CCA Unlimited with MX-P on FH n Genius Optimum + on BH. But I feel that due to my incomplete basics my shots are very inconsistent n I feel very bad while practicing with fellow players. Can you please suggest me a set up. Sorry for the long paragraph. Thank you
I understand how you must be feeling. Your blade and forehand rubber are very fast. Get a blade with and allround to allround plus speed rating. Get a rubber like a butterfly flextra or Rozena. The backhand rubber should be fine if you are a pips defender.
Could you make a vid on how to brush the ball and produce spin?
This is great but I wish you would put some links to bats and rubbers that you suggest. Im so confused on what to purchase.
Thanks your information
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You're welcome, and thanks for watching Hana Okta.
Hi Sir, very informative video. Even though I am playing TT since 4 years, I am still beginner in this case. My dealer had given me few options and I am totally confused. What would you suggest. Thanks in advance.
The options are
Backhand rubber
Rakza 7
Good spin with nice speed
Forehand rubber
Andro rasanter r42/r47
Bluefire m2
Mxs
M2 is my recommendation
Nice spin with control
Blades
Tibhar stratus power carbon
Stiga carbonado 145
Timo boll alc
Viscaria
Like very much your video. Can you please advice best FH sticky rubber and BH rubber like yours. Can't wait to test it.
At the time of this video I was using DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2mm on FH and Donic Barracuda 1.8mm on BH. Good luck and happy playing!
As a many year player, medium/advance level I fully approve your tutorial. Cheers.
I appreciate it. Cheers!
Great Video. Do you consider the ALC weave to be to fast? I am approaching the 2000 level here in the US (currently 1888 as of last summer). I use the DHS 301 with Hurricane 8 on FH and Xiom Omega 7 Asia on BH.
Ethan, thank you for the compliment on my video. I do consider the ALC carbon a moderately fast type of blade material, too fast for beginners but you should be OK. That said when I compare it to ZLC it is a little bit slower and has more dwell time allowing you a larger margin of error. The increased dwell time also results in more feeling and control. ZLC is just crazy fast.
Great video! I wish I had watched it before I purchased my first custom racket. Tenergy 05 on both sides on an OFF blade for a beginner... Gosh, I suffered a lot and had INSANELY slow progress. Then I downgraded to an ALL+ blade with a hybrid Chinese rubber on my forehand and my level went up fast.
Have you tried Nittaku Acoustic and/or Acoustic Carbon inner? Will they an intermediate player? Thoughts? :)
if you're dying for a nittaku get lattika or katsumi instread for 1/3 of the price of acoustic. these are fine for beginner. sure, a rich beginner will be playing with acoustic just fine, it's more like all+ with slower rubbers... otherwise, after having tried ~ 40 blades during my 1st year (acoustic included), i can tell you, you can find excellent $35 wood and i'll be as good as acoustic in your hands during first years. try banco magic light or cornillau aero all + - or andro hinotec all+, these woods, you can get 'em for $15-20 2nd hand and they are great. aslo, beginners can try a defenise wood with faster rubbers, it can be exellent combo, one of my fav rackets today is stiga classic defence with donics (f2 + bluefire m1). oh, and btw, corean nexy blades are just as good and nittakus (if not better)
Hey Jin Jeon. First of, really helpful video! For my dad's birthday, I want to buy him a proper racquet, but I don't want to spend too much money. He plays with shakehand grip and prefers forehand. After scrolling through the comments and your advices I want to buy a Yasaka Sweden Extra FL, but I'm not sure about the rubbers yet. I'm considering the Friendship 729 on both sides, maybe a thicker version on the forehand side. It's cheap and has many good reviews. What do you think? Is it a good option?
Edit: Actually I think that rubber is a chinese rubber, right? Can you recommend any good european rubbers for BH and FH in the same price class?
DHS hurricane 3 for forehand, gold arc 8 for backhand. trust me
I have always bought whatever blade or rubbers I fancied and then just learned to play with them. I believe if you are a reasonably competent player you can adapt your style to any kind of set-up
Competent is the key word here. Most people choosing their first paddle are beginners. Love to hear that you have experience in the game though
This video was awesome. I dedided to change my old Wakaba 2000 for A Maze performance and 2 Butterfly Roundell soft rubbers¿What do you think? I'd to hear your opinion.
That's a high quality all wood blade. I hear Roundell rubbers often mute the feeling of the ball into the blade but I imagine good technique will make this rubber as playable as any other.
Hello,
Thanks for the video, very interesting.
After reading the comments, I will take as blades: Yasaka Sweden Extra.
In terms of the handle type, do you have any advice?
For rubber, Xiom vega europe 1.8 on both sides?
I am a beginner, I will go with the European style,
And other question, In terms of maintenance / lifespan, at a rate of 2-3 hours a week, how long does the racket survive?
Thanks
Hi ! Thanks for this video. I'm sad to see that you haven't posted for several months ... It won't be my first racket but following your advice I chose a Tibhar Stratus Power Wood (I was hesitant with the Xiom Offensive S), FH Rubber: Rakza Z because i'm boring to boost my H3 Neo, but I don't know what to take on backhand ... Rakza 7/7 soft? or maybe Xiom Vega Asia? ... i'm lost.
TInARC.
Hi I am from uk and I have m1 turbo from donic on both sides and I have the donic blade and I am a attacking spin player what could u recommend thanks
Nice video with good explanation. There are not so much videos on this theme (I mean quality videos about table tennis), so keep doing it)
Could you please help me with choosing blade and rover too. I am not a beginner, played a lot, but didn't assemble rackets before. My style is kinda combined: I like defending but quite often do top spins and some attacks. So I thought to get more attacking forehand and defending backhand, maybe even with thorns. What do you think about that? My budget is around 70-80 dollars :)
Hi Danis and thank you for reaching out! Though this is not my style of play, it would make sense to have a defensive blade, slow and high control rubber on BH, and a fast offensive rubber on the FH. I did some research and the Donic Defplay blade has received a lot of support from defensive players and the bat face is wider for this style of play (the blade is under $40 USD).
Jin Jeon Ping Pong ok, thanks. One more question: do you recommend the rubber on BH with thorns or not, and which, big or small?
@@danisbegishev8377 If you want to block and and attack with the backhand us shorts pimples. If you want to chop and attack with the backhand use long pimples.
@@TechnicalTableTennis Thanks a lot. Waiting for the next videos)
@@danisbegishev8377 Thank you Danis! More to come!
Love the explanation... Can you recommend me a setup for beginners? Blade and rubber. Many thanks.
Thanks for watching LagunaIX! I always recommend a 5 ply all wood blade with a speed rating of all round to all round plus. For the backhand rubber there is a great entry level tensor rubber made by Xiom called the Xiom Vega Intro that has a high level of control. As for the forehand, what style do you want to emulate, Chinese or Euro?
@@TechnicalTableTennis prefer Chinese style... The rubber should I choose max hardness or soft for the forehand? If European style which rubber is good?.. Thanks for replying me.
@@ricky6770 If you choose Chinese style I would go with DHS H3 and use the medium hardness to begin with. If European style I would recommend non-tensor rubbers from Stiga.
@@TechnicalTableTennis Got it. Thanks... Looking forward to more of your video. Since i don't a coach to teach me about table tennis... Watching online tutorials is my only coach. ❤️
You're welcome. I will be making a basic stroke series soon, so stay tuned for more!
Warm regards,
Jin Jeon
Im thinking to get the stiga allround classic with butterfly flextra rubber on both sides
Anthony. Great choice. That’s a high control setup. I played that same blade for a while. I enjoyed it but found that the blade had a muted kind of feeling.
Thank you Jin!
Thank you for watching Hesam!
@@TechnicalTableTennis Keep up the good work man!
Great tips, Do you have any suggestions for an aggressive intermediate player, around 100-150 dollars?
This should mean you have strong control over all basic strokes and loops on both forehand and backhand. Play with whichever equipment you would like at this point. Butterfly and Donic are my personal favorite brands in reqards to quality and performance
Sir ur videos very helpful for me
Sir i play play tt regularly from 6 months
I want to buy my first custom made racket
I choose stiga all round classic blade
With mark 5 with both sides. It is good combination for me plz suggest me
I’m glad to help! It is a great choice. The MarkV rubber is a little outdated, but is still very playable!
New player - with descent skills - what do you think about a Donic Persson Power Allround and a FH Juic 999 attack and BH Juic Air Condle?
Which one would be better :
Stiga allround classic or yasaka sweden classic?
Would love your recommendations for a good racket setup. I am an amateur and i use reverse penhold grip ,but I prefer a flared grip(it is comfortable) and I am forehand dominant . Also please do include any alternatives for Chinese rubbers. Your help is much appreciated.
PS: Love your videos❤️
Hi Trap! Yasaka Sweden all day. I played that Stiga blade for a week and it had the feeling of a tree trunk. Alternative Chinese rubbers from DHS H3- Palio Hadou and Yinhe 9000 Milky Way are both inexpensive and fairly wonderful to play with. Nice to meet you =).
@@TechnicalTableTennis also do you have knowledge of European rubbers that are similar to Chinese rubbers (live in india so currently boycotting Chinese goods). Also thank you for the previous reply.
I have never played with an actual good quality bat, the best I have used is about $15 U.S. from a regular sporting goods store. I can play forehand and backhand pretty consistently but I struggle when I play against people who have high quality paddles. How much of a difference did you notice when you first started playing with higher end equipment? I have noticed that I feel I have reached the point where no matter what I do with this cheaper paddle I am not able to generate any more spin to manipulate the ball like I have seen done by good players. I am sure that much of it is technique, but how much of a difference would you say is made by the better bat/paddle ?
Hello and thank you for your question. It is a night and day type of difference. When I started in 2018 I played with a premade for 6 months. The day I transitioned to my first custom setup was the day that I first truly experienced the game.
Great video!
I'm having a hard time deciding on which rubbers to get for my first racket. It's easier to find a blade since there are less options once I filter for ALL or ALL+ blades, but it's harder to filter for rubbers and there are just so many! Are 1.8mm Mark V sponges a good option or are they too fast for a first custom racket?
the mark v is not too fast for a first bat.
Hi Dean, Mark V 1.8 was fast when it first came out, but by today's standards it is a medium speed rubber with good control! You will be able to handle it just fine! Thanks for watching!
Planning to buy my first one . Pls advise between these 3 blades -
Stiga All Round classic/ Stiga Energywood/
Xiom Aria Lite ?
Tnz for quick response
Hi Harry, they are all similar in speed and control. I have a bias for Xiom so naturally I would pick the Aria Lite.
Stiga blades tend to have this hollow feeling. I like my blades to have a crisp feeling when I hit the ball.
Nice video! Do you know anywhere which sells the rubber, for less than $50. Everything I find is just so expensive.
Try tabletennis11.com I hope this helps!
Hi. I’m an 1800 ish long pips attacker and play with 05 thick sponge tenergy on a jo se hoek blade. What would you recommend for my forehand if I am to take the next step to get to 2000. I play to get better, technically. I feel that I’m not good enough to play the tenergy.
Hey Jin Jeon what sort of sponge thickness should the rubbers have for the forehand and backhand
Hello! It really depends. If you are a beginner make sure the sponge is 2.0 or less on both forehand and backhand. Typically forehand is thicker of the 2 because you can generate more power from that side.
Thank you jin . Very nice video. I m am intermediate level player who plays in a local club. Can you please suggest a few nontensor rubbers for forehand and back hand for me. It's going to be my first custom racket and I need alot of control please.
There are so many brands out there and rubbers and u don't know which one to choose. Can you please help
You're welcome! So many people I know stand by Yasaka Mark V. It's old school, but provides the right amount of grip and speed for someone looking for control
Hi ,can u give ur comment about mark v rubber for bigger or intermediate player. Player with forehand strength
It’s a great rubber for beginning and intermediate player. Thanks for watching!
Nice video
Can help to share European tensor soft sponge rubber in market?
Thank you. We really like Xiom Vega Europe, , Donic Bluefire M3 ,Yasaka Fastarc C1, Tenergy 05fx, and Butterfly Rozena, and the list goes on.
, but any soft tensor rubber from the top brands will do
can you please recommend a cheap set up (chinese style) for a begginer? i need the specifics because i'm totally a newbie.. thank you.. new subscriber here
great video. Just started table tennis again with my 25 years, I played when I was 15 years old.
I will get a 5-Ply-Wood from andro. I will follow your channel.
My question: to relearn i want to go with Forehand DHS Hurricane 8 and backhand Andro Hexergrip SFX (42,5 ESN sponge).
Is that fine or are they to too intermediate level when I just started to relearn table tennis?
You can recommend me another DHS Forehand rubber if you want : )
Greetings from Germany
I am really excited to hear you are getting back into table tennis. I like your blade choice. Hurricane 8 is considered a fast rubber. If you find it is out of control go with Hurricane 3 Neo (no booster lol). Hexer-grip is also a good choice. Fast but not extreme.
@@TechnicalTableTennis thx for the reply. Blade will be TP Ligna ALL (5-ply) for feeling and control. I want to go with H8 because I saw more positive reviews in the Web. I can change when it doesnt fit. Thoughts on the blade ? Best wishes, Christopher
The blade is perfect. Great choice :)
@@TechnicalTableTennis one more question. Do I have to boost the Hurricane 8? I often read DHS rubbers are unplayable without it. I dont want to boost but I will do it when I have to
@@Superdanceband The Hurricane 8 was made to have more speed so boosting would not be required. It's a plug and play type of application.
Hi Jin, thanks for this video. I'm a beginner learning penhold style, do I need to buy a penhold bat? I've seen products with the control and rubber you mention, but it has a shakehand handle. How important is it that I start learning with a penhold specific racket?
Hello. If you intend to play this style make sure to get the bat with a penhold handle.
Look up Yasaka Sweden Extra pen hold. This blade should do the trick!
@@TechnicalTableTennis thank you for the suggestion! I'm currently looking at the Touch01 from www.colestt.com/ , they will add a penhold handle, rubbers, tape and case for a very good price.
I'll do a little more research, the deal seems almost too good to be true!
Hi great video! how to revive the tackiness in Hurricane 3 Neo. mine had lost its soul
Thank you very much! Tabletennis11.com sells a table tennis rejuvenator. You can also clean the rubber with tiny drop of dish soap and water, let it dry, and then rub a drop of olive oil on it. Let it sit overnight and that should do the trick. If that doesn't work, nothing will.
@@TechnicalTableTennis thanks for the info. will try
hi .thanks for your video. what is your recommendation for beginner player ? blade and rubber that is somehow sticky .can you tell me those names ?
Thank you for watching. Hope you are still playing. Sticky rubbers: Hurricane H3, Yasaka Rakza Z and Palio rubbers could be manageable. As for the blade, go for any 5 ply all wood blade that is rated offensive - to Allround
Good video thanks. About 35 years ago I played 1st division standard, county junior level. Used a stiga stellar bengtsson offensive blade with butterfly rubbers, can't recall but sticky on backhand, normal forehand. I'm looking to play again after all these years, but things have moved on so much. What would you recommend I chose blade and rubber wise. Back then my game was fast forehand loop, not so sure now. Thank you very much
If you have this kind of experience, I would recommend not limiting yourself with slower equipment. You can't go wrong with Butterfly, Donic, Yasaka, DHS, Tibhar, and Xiom products. I recommend 2mm thickness on both FH and BH rubber. Welcome back to the game my friend!
Thank you very much. Yes looking forward to getting a blade and getting back playing.
Hi, I have a Nittaku Violin five plywood blade, and found it to be excellent for control and feel. It is a real pleasure to play with it. However, judging from your advice, I feel that the TEnergy 05 FX 1.7 for both my forehand and backhand are too fast and not ideal for a beginner. Indeed, I love a playing style that favours control and feeling. Please I’d be very grateful if you could advise which rubber I should get; I struggle returning backspin with pushes so perhaps a Chinese rubber might be best. Grazie! Gaetano
As you are a newer player, I feel that Tenergy may be too fast. I'd recommend Butterfly Sriver on the backhand and DHS H3 neo for the forehand. Keep in mind that the Chinese rubber will require a full arm loop with solid weight transfer in your legs to get a good hit. If you don't want to go full on tacky for the forehand, you can actually use the Sriver on the forehand as well. Thanks for reaching out!
@@TechnicalTableTennis thank you very much for your prompt and informative reply. Will use these rubbers as you suggest. Gaetano
@@TechnicalTableTennis Hi, my DHS H3 neo for my forehand has just arrived. I tried it and it’s truly excellent; the ball dwells on the racket a lot longer, allowing for great control and feeling. It is a real pleasure to play with it. Thank you very much for your invaluable advice. I couldn’t get hold of a Sriver for my backhand so got a Yasaka Mark v, as it appears that the two have similar properties. I’ll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you very much for your help. Gaetano
Gaetano, you are very welcome. That’s all awesome news! H3 Neo is a true bargain and I love it too! Happy playing friend!
I have took on table tennis after 30 years. Was an intermediate level, so I got myself a Stiga offensive classic equipped with yasaka mark 5 on both sides. Trajectories are very high and balls are flying all around. So I got a Yasaka Dynamix just for comparison (rated offensive+, 11 layers of wood and 6 of carbon) equipped with Yasaka Rakza 7 soft bh and Rakza X medium-hard on the fh and with this combination I can really play well, lot of control, spin and speed. With this combination I do nearly what I want.
I still can't figure how the Stiga-MarkV combination that is supposed to be much more friendly in reality is... too much. In the end probably it is necessary to try few combinations before finding the right one.
Welcome back. I hope you're having fun. I just replied to another viewer about keeping the ball on the table for forehand loop. Maybe it will help in your case "It is a difficult shot. It all starts with keeping your body relaxed so it can move fluidly. The ball flying far could be for three reasons. Your arm is tense and therefore you are not completing a fast enough elbow snap to add spin to the ball that makes it dive back to the table. Your bat angle is opening upwards as you hit. You are hitting with too much force and not enough spin. Test these and see what you can figure out"
Hi! I'm considering buying a new racket and wondering if it would be good to buy Xiom omega 7 europe on BH and Vega X or Rakza Z on FH. wich ones are recommended? I like playing with a lot of spin and I am trying to develop more consistency and speed. I am beginner to intermediate and would love to get some feedback!
This is a good setup. Hope this worked out well for you. Make sure the FH rubber is 2mm and the BH is 1.8. These are good thicknesses for speed and control
great video !!! can u recommend me the best blade and rubbers both FH AND BH i should go with??
for beginners to intermediate
Hi Ankit. I'm always pointing beginners to the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH and Xiom Euro 1.8 on BH. If you want to play European style, change the FH rubber to Yasaka Mark V.
@@TechnicalTableTennis thankyou for ur advice. really appreciate it. keep up the good work.
@@TechnicalTableTennis Loved the video. Is that Xiom Vega Euro? Xiom has Vega Euro DF, Omega 3, 4, 5, 7 Euro, Sigma 2 Euro.
Also, is the H in DHS H3 Neo is Hurricane? How does it compare to H3 National for an intermediate player that love to spin?
Thanks in advance.
Yes the H stands for Hurricane. I would recommend getting the regular and not the National. I have played both and for anyone other than a pro, the difference is almost undetectable.
For the Xiom, the standard Vega Europe is sufficient but the DF is apparently more consistently spinny.
My recommendation rubber/blade for European style play
Yasaka Sweden Extra
Yasaka Rigan for both sides.
Really great for beginners and can carry you into intermediate levels no problem, a bit slow for higher competitions but will still do emotional damage to loopers .
I double this comment! Great input
Question, for the blade how to determine the forehand side particularly hand shake grip . Please reply, thank you
Hi Edgar. What do you currently have on the forehand side what do you like and not like about it?
@@TechnicalTableTennis hi how are you , the one with the logo was my forehand is it correct.
i got a timo boll 3000 as a started paddle is it ok? i think is kind slow but efficent
Hi like the video. Just wondering what you recommend for a cheap setup. About 35-40USD. Thanks! Again great videos!
Hi DeRubik'sBoyz! I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra, Palio CJ8000 rubber on forehand, and any medium tacky rubber on the backhand. You'll probably spend aroun $65-70 USD.
@@TechnicalTableTennis Thanks!
@@derubiksboyz3856 HEY ANOTHER CUBER AND TABLE TENNIS PLAYER
@@fc3x336 YOOOOOOO
@@wei_liam420 hi
What rubber do you use in the forehand?
I am an intermediate player who wants to create my first custom-made paddle. I want to play defensively hitting mostly slices on my backhand and forehand. Any recommendations?
Hello! I am glad to hear you're getting into the game. Use long pips on the backhand and checkout victas inverted rubbers for the forehand. Best of luck!
im thinking of getting the yasaka sweden extra and Jupiter II for FH, but I can't seem to find a reasonably priced backhand rubber on amazon, any suggestions, bh rubber budget is 15$
I love that blade. Great options for low cost backhand rubbers are made by Yinhe, Friendship, and Palio.
Hi jin i am a new- ish player have been playing for a year anc a half but am already playing at bottom end national level i use dhs h2 neo on forehand and stiga mantra h on backhand i am using a timo boll alc but i feel that i lose matches due to a lack of consistency, could you recommend blades with good feeling for an advanced level player?
Glad to hear about your improvement. I would recommend the Nittaku Violin or Acoustic, the Butterfly Petr Korbel, or the Avalox P500. All blades with good speed and feeling.
Hello,
what would you recommend for a player stuck in the lowest league with 1100 TTR Points in Germany?
A yasaka sweeden extra or xiom offensive s?
And what rubber? xiom vega europe or bluestorm z3 for the backhand and for the forehand vega pro, mark v or friednship bloom power?
I am sick of losing i hope you can help me.
I am 27 years by the way
Hello! I definitely recommend the Sweden Extra. Better feeling and more control. Any of those rubbers will work fine, but for the most control I would do Vega Europe on the BH and Mark V or DHS H3 Neo on FH. Thanks for reaching out. I wish you the best of luck!
What brand would u recomment starting with?
Is Nittaku good?
Hello, I would like some advice. I am a beginner to intermediate player and i would like to know how a 3 ply wood + 2 carbon compare to a 5 ply wood? I play half defensive and half offensive when i can. I am a European style forehand dominant player.
For my first customized racket, i decided to go with 5 ply all wood Palio B-11 blade with Palio 40+ AK47gold forhand rubber and Palio 40+ hadou backhand rubber.
Awesome setup by the way. The amount of control and feeling is increased with the all wood blade. The speed is slower, but that just means you have to work on having great technique.
@@TechnicalTableTennis I prepare to buy stiga offensive classic blade and forehand rubber dhs neo 3 back hand as well is it good choice to make.
This is a good setup. I would play that setup myself. It may be hard to develop the backhand with such a sticky rubber though.
Do you have the stiga Infinity vps v in your hand in this video and if so how is or was your experience with this blade?
Hello Grosse and welcome to the channel =). I am using a Xiom Offensive Pro. I have yet to play with a Stiga Infinity. Maybe we can ask Fan Zhendong lol.
Nice vid. Got some questions. 1) I already have a blade but I do not if it is a good one, how do I check? It’s from an already existing bat but that one has a dead rubber and sponge. 2) I like both European and Chinese play styles, where can I find good rubbers for both play styles and should I put both on one racket or make two different ones?
The dead rackets that I have at home are 3 and 7 ply
Hi Meme God and thanks for watching. You need to choose a style and a single setup. If you want a rubber that offers the best of both euro and asian style rubber, try the Yasaka Rising Dragon, DHS Hurricane 8, or the Xiom Vega China, or Butterfly Dignics. Keep in mind that these are all relatively fast rubbers.
Of your two blades, go with the 7-ply.
Hi Jin Jeon Ping Pong, I changed my mind about using a blade that I already own because I’m probably going to mess up the glueing, at the moment I’m thinking of using a Tibhar match blade, LKT rapid soft as forehand and Friendship 729 FX super as backhand what are your thoughts about this?
@@MemeLord42 listen to the guys in video and get yourself DHS Hurricane 8 medium hard or hard black one and 729 Presto Spin H44 red one. It will cost you like 50 for both and last 6 month at least. 3ply blade throw away to the bin. 7 ply keep for the future. Get yourself 5ply - Stiga Celero Wood, Stiga Allround Classic, Xiom Offensive. They are all different but at your level you will not feel much difference. Will work perfectly well for the first 18 months.
Thanks for the video mate, where would be the best place to find these rubbers and blades?
My pleasure! Try Tabletennis11.com
@@TechnicalTableTennis Awesome, so how do I find the right rubber. What classifications should I be looking at to find the right one for both forehand and backhand. All the names of all the rubbers are confusing.
What style do you want to play?
@@TechnicalTableTennis I was thinking more Chinese, a bit more spin and control rather than outright speed. Although eventually I want to get onto something faster
Hey Marcus. Go for DHS H3 Neo on FH and try Yasaka Rigan or Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Basically classic Chinese rubber on FH and a slower euro tensor on BH. Go with an all wood 5-ply allround to allround + blade.
Hello, thanks for the video , also I am looking for a beginner paddle, I was looking over your comments and I was thinking for this setup " Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH" . I play european style, what do you think about this dhs h3 neo 2.0 , is good for me (i am a little confuse) ? also may you tell me where i can find this rubber(dhs h3 neo2.0) ? on tabletennis11 is not for 2.0 , i saw just for 2.15
thank you
Welcome Olaru! I love the selection you have made. It was my exact setup about 18 months ago. If you plan to play a European style you should actually do Xiom Vega Europe on both sides! 1.8 is a good thickness if you are a beginner because the thinner sponge will give you even more control.
I wouldn't recommend DHS if your plan is to play European style because the rubber is very sticky and will require full arm loops with a Chinese technique, while the less sticky Xiom Vega Europe will allow a shorter stroke while still generating sufficient spin and power.
I hope this helps!
@@TechnicalTableTennis thanks for advise, I will pick from tt11 a complete paddle, do you think is ok or not to choose 'Blade Lacquering" ?
I always lacquer the blade to protect it from splintering when replacing rubbers in the future. It is nearly impossible to feel a difference with or without it.
can you provide some of the name to the Chinese sticky rubber your would recommend to a beginner ?
Hello!! Always choose the DHS Hurricane 3 Neo. 2.0 sponge thickness
What is a good website to use to build your bats!?
Hello Jin, what kind of blade and rubbers you use in these videos ? Thank you
Hi Sandor. I use the Xiom Offensive S, Yasaka Razka 2.0 on backhand, and DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2.15 on forehand. Be sure to subscribe! Thank you!
Thank you for the quick reply. Great channel
This is precisely what I was looking for - thank you so much! I see an array of choices below - mostly from players who are already into it quite a bit. Wondering if could recommend a specific combination of rubbers and blade for a beginner like who wants to pursue this seriously. I can use the website you have indicated below. Appreciate your help. Regards.
I'll let you in on my first custom racket setup =). Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH. You may need a different forehand rubber if you don't plan to play full arm loops like the Chinese style requires.
Just so you know, this setup is very inexpensive. I paid $78 for mine completely assembled!
@@TechnicalTableTennis Thank you so much! This is really helpful
Anytime. I hope you enjoy playing even more with the new setup
@@TechnicalTableTennis Thank you again. What a great feeling using this bat! You have opened up a new world for me. Now I just have to learn the game. Wishing you the very best!
@@TechnicalTableTennis what do you think about the Donic Waldner allplay or Aplegreen allplay?
Are there not any pre assembled paddles worth it I saw a nice butterfly one , I am I guess intermediate been playing for years but just now getting lessons and wanting to improve my game
There are a few, but I highly recommend picking out your own rubbers and blade separately. You will get much more performance for the price.
What would you recommend for an intermediate player. Have been playing for over 10 years now.
I previous setup was
Xiom strato blade
Andro Rasant Power grip FH
Sriver G3
But I noticed missed lots of shots.
Hello. Try out the Xiom Offensive S blade with the same rubbers. The blade may increase the control enough to fix your problem. If you continue missing the table, you will need to reassess your technique. I.e. ask yourself “am I putting enough top spin on the ball to bring it back down?... Am I aiming too close to the edge?... am I hitting the ball too early or too late?...Is my bat angle too open or closed for the type of incoming spin I am returning?”
@@TechnicalTableTennis Thank you for your quick response. I would do as advised.
When is it an appropriate time to step up to a carbon blade? I have been playing for around 4-5 years now with a Nittaku Violin (with DHS Hurricane 3 Neo on forehand). I feel like my blade is too flexy when I hit hard and I can't land high quality forehands. I tried my clubmate's viscaria and the speed + spin I was able to generate was crazy. And also felt more controlled in a way.
Viscaria most likely had Tenergy or Dignics both of which generate massive spin with this blade. My friend, as long as you are doing complete strokes and imparting massive spin on the ball, it will hit the table with high consistency. The Violin is a pro level blade, but I will say that the Butterfly Viscaria is the world's most popular carbon blade for a reason. In this case I would urge you to stay with your current blade, perfect topspin with a complete stroke and then move to carbon
What do you think of the 702 butterfly premade, and the 603 premade. I’m thinking of buying the 702. I am an intermediate player.
If you must buy a premade, I believe this is a good option. The 702 seems to have the characteristic of high control. The price is high though. You could make a custom racket for less. I hope you find a great setup!
@@TechnicalTableTennis thanks! I did!
Serge, what did you purchase?!
hello is the Terrasphere TS300 Table Tennis Bat and good it is the first bat i have bought
Sorry Simon. I am not familiar with this bat.
@@TechnicalTableTennis rip... its a 5 ply..
3 ply of poplar and 2 Chinese basswood.
it is also has thick sponge and strong grip however it doesn't stick even though i play the asian style
That sounds like a decent setup on paper!
Hey!! Fan from Italy, I've been looking at these types of video for a while, your explanation was very clear.
Every time I go online and look for blades and rubbers I don't understand anything and feel confused and overwhelmed. Would u mind recommending a specific blade and rubbers (for a beginner) and maybe also a cool website where I can buy stuff (I live in Italy). Thanks a lot ! Keep it up !!
(I'm on a tight budget ) 40/45€ max
Hello Matteo. Thank you! Tabletennis11.com is a great site that ships worldwide and their prices are second to none the best I have ever seen. 45 Euros is going to be tough. You may have to bump your budget up by about 30 euros. I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra as a good blade for all beginners. As for the rubber that's up to you. I had Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH when I first started playing.
@@TechnicalTableTennisthank u very much i appreciate !!
Love the video! I went to tabletennis11 and they give 3 choices for handle. Which one do you recommend?
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