Thanks for watching! We have a whole series of videos on choosing table tennis equipment on our website: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment Enjoy!
The Palio Expert 2 is a great bat for beginners. I was recommended it by my tabletennis coach. It's got great rubbers, a decent blade - and it's far superior to the majority of bats you find in sports shops.
I'm three years into my table tennis journey now, and I do feel as though I've finally got the right combination of bat and rubbers. It took quite a few hit and miss trials with different rubbers to get there - I think maybe new players need to be fairly patient with the process because you have to find what feels right for you. Even the best coaches can't actually know what feels right for you. As a local league player who likes to mix defence and attack, with plenty of spinny loops, I've ended up plumping for the Hurricane 3 on both sides. I love its control and looping spin, plus I can still get plenty of pace in my top spins when I want, even though it isn't the fastest rubber. Thanks for the great videos.
Hi Mrinal Chauhan, I wouldn't make the weight the first thing to consider but you do want a bat that feels comfortable for you when playing. Generally speaking, weight is not a big issue when choosing a bat.
+Omar M Idrissi These sound like how they might grade pre-made bats. I don't pay too much attention to these ratings as they are just made up by the company making the bat as a marketing tool. For some recommendations check out the bats on the PingSkills website store. These are bats we recommend but there are lots of good choices available.
+Gaming It's probably OK for a very short time. I haven't used it myself but I imagine that the rubbers won't last too long and then you'll need to try something else. It's important to be able to generate spin to keep developing.
I'd say not a lot. If the bats have ratings like this they are probably the fairly basic pre-made bats and the ratings are just marketing tactics by the companies.
I went to a specialized shop where they assembled a bat for me, based on the fact that I was a relative beginner with a preference for attack. After a year I bought another one which is exactly the same. I want to stick with these for at least 2 years or until I find that my technique cannot be improved (not perfect technique but touching my borders of potential to improve). And then I might try making a leap with better gear. Is this a viable plan? I find that many enthusiastic amateurs expect too much impact from changing gear. So I fully agree with the second part of your video.
Hi Tarun Telang, I don't know. I haven't ever seen the ITTFA mark? To be a legal rubber to use in an official ITTF competition, the rubber must have the ITTF logo on it.
PingSkills hi i use a stiga pro carbon is that a good bat for a amature whos been playing for 2 and a half years at my school or should i use the new stiga titan?
Frostgaming Frosty I'm not really an equipment expert but the carbon does sound like a fast blade. I'd probably recommend a more all round type blade myself. Something like the Stiga All Round classic or the PingSkills Touch :)
PingSkills I want to buy the original table tennis bat , but here in Pakistan only local bat are available, please can u tell me from where i buy the original bat which are using by professional players , thanks
It is interesting that you mentioned "Butterfly Sriver" and "Yasaka Mark V". When I was playing in the 1970s and 80s they were two of the fastest rubbers on the market and were recommended for advanced attacking players. My Dad was a coach and had a variety of bats ranging from Mark V right down to an ultra slow anti-loop rubber called "Toni Hold". I have still got them in my loft. When I was a Junior learner I used Butterfly;s "All-Round D-13" and when I gained a bit more confidence, I upgraded to "Super Sriver" which was slightly slower than Sriver but had more control. Times must have changed a bit since then !
Back in the 80's I used to love Friendship 729 (2.0) which was a tacky rubber with good control but not too fast for a beginner to intermediate. I used to love playing people with Stiga Mark V. It had a ton of spin but when you gave any spin back it seemed a nightmare for them to control. Other popular at that the time were Butterfly Sriver and Double Happiness. Speed gluing was only emerging as where blades with carbon fibre
Hi Another Cuber, I've never used the Nittaku Japan Original Shake or the Stag Power Drive Plus. Maybe some other people can help you out. You could also ask a question using the ask the coach section of the PingSkills website and we could open it up to other PingSkillers to see if they have any feedback for you.
Hello Alois and Jeff !! You guys rule. I have learnt everything about TT from you guys and I believe I am slowly moving on to the intermediate level. I recently got a new DHS Professional Quick Attack X series Carbon TT racket. I got the feel of the racket within a week and a half. Its slow enough for me to not lose control and fast enough to attack consistently. The rubber on both side is good. The most significant improvement that I am seeing in my game is the increased consistency in my backhand topspin against backspin. Previously, even after getting to the level of the ball and starting the racket from knee height, I was not totally comfortable in hitting the ball when it had considerable backspin and took to chopping instead, which I particularly hate. But this new racket grips the spin so well and never lets me down provided body position, wrist movement etc. is decent. I would like to see guys do a "Who is the best in which shot among Ma Long, Zhange Jike and Fan Zhendong", with analysis of the techniques. Lastly the passion with which you people talk about TT is infectious. You guys simply rock !!
+Sinchan Pathak Thanks so much for the kind words. It's nice we've been able to help you. And congratulations on your improvement. Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll keep improving!
@@pirateworks3423 it depends on how much you play and it's different for each rubber. For example, I have my fxp 1 year and through this year I have changed my els twice. It mostly depends on you, when you feel it doesn't do the work well, it needs change.
I can do spins and smash I am buying new bat when I searched online in amazon it shows stag company rackets showing 4start 5 star I am getting confused plz help
Unless they are defensive players, they top 100 in the world will al be using really fast rubbers. However not everyone should start with fast rubbers and it's hard to learn the correct techniques for your strokes if you can't control the ball.
First I want to say I thoroughly enjoy your videos. They're very informative and easy to follow. Since I'm relatively new to the sport I just have a simple question. Since you had mentioned the blade accounts for 10-20% of performance, would I be able to keep blade when it is time for me to advance to a new rubber; or would it be best for me to upgrade both?
Depending on what blade you have now you certainly can keep the same blade. On a pre-made bat the rubber is hard to take off but you certainly can keep the blade. Most people generally buy a new blade when they first upgrade to a custom bat and then keep that same blade for a number of years.
Thank you for this very helpful advice, guys. It really helped me to choose the bat that's best for me personally. I'm not really an aggressive player. I focus more on spin, ball placement around the edges and strategy in terms of drawing the opponent out of position and exploiting their errors. I found that having to adapt to whatever bats are supplied is unhelpful and i knew that to take my game to the next level, i would need to invest in my own bat and bring it everywhere in order to build my consistency. Furthermore, i also felt that playing with supplied (cheap) balls was creating bad habits. The prices of various bats ranged from AUD$25-$100, but i didn't focus on the price. I went with what felt right in my hand in terms of weight, and narrowed it down to 2 bats and them used guide to determine which one would suit my style the best. It is a Donic Waldner 700 and the guide has the attack at 90, the spin at 80, & the control at 70. Price was AUD$45, and i got some 3* balls while i was at it. As i'm finding my consistency, i'm really starting to become more solid as a player and even less predictable, which can only be good. I had also recognized that my topspin was my weakness, and that's what i'm really working on now. I'm so happy with new bat and i certainly feel like i've made the right choice with it. Again, i cannot thank you guys enough!. Your advice was most helpful!! :)
Thanks very much, guys. I felt like i was being held back in a sense, but since i've been using this bat, my topspin technique is really improving. I feel like i've got a lot better control as well in terms of ball placement. I understand i'm only at the pre-made stage, but hopefully once i've got my topspin down-pat, i can look towards getting a custom. I was just wondering what you guys thought in terms of this particular bat, but you're probably different players to me anyway. In any case, thanks again. :) Cheers.
Matty King I haven't used that particular bat but Donic is a good brand. It sounds like a good choice for your first pre-made bat. I'm sure over time you will be looking at a custom bat but keep on working hard and enjoying your table tennis in the mean time. Best of luck!
Hello +PingSkills! I have some trouble choosing a bat... Im an offensive player that likes to have control and spin on the ball. Can you recomend anything? I like killerspin, stiga, yasaka bats!
Dear PingSkills, I have been playing for about half a year and thanks to your videos I have learned my fundamentals. I am currently using a paddle that I bought at a sports store near me, but the rubber is dead. Could you please recommend a good custom paddle? Thanks.
We sell the PingSkills Touch with Mark V which would be a good option. :) The stiga all round classic with Mark V would also be good. Another option would be the Butterfly Primorac OFF- with Sriver. Let us know what you choose. It's always exciting to get new equipment. If you have any other questions let us know. You can also ask questions on the PingSkills website using the "ask the coach" section. I'm glad you've been finding our lessons helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hi Sunil Rana Magar, The most important part of the bat is the rubber. The blade is less important but does affect the speed. That's why we recommend an all round blade for most players and then you can adjust the speed by getting different rubbers. Of course some people like slower blades and some people like faster blades.
You also can start to develop a half stroke when you have a really good racket with lots of grip and sponge because it takes your opponents spin and reverses it. When I used a racket with less sponge and less grip, I had this long swing just so I could get appropriate amount of spin on the ball ... so I would say its not all negative to have less grip. The problem with a racket that has a thin sponge and less grip was that it was really hard to block topspins.
Thank you so much to both Coach.. i started off young playing table tennis with my dad.. but then stopped at 20, now i turned 40 this year, wanting to start again.. hope i can, thank you for this video…
If you have an ok pre-made bat and if the blade has such little significance, could you use a pre made blade and once the rubber dies, could you buy new rubbers for that blade?
Hi Joshua Gold, You certainly can do that. The trick is getting the initial rubbers of the blade as with pre-made bats they glue them on with really strong glue. It takes a bit of effort but once you do you certainly can use the blade. We have done that with some of our pre-made bats for players before and it works quite well.
+PingSkills What do you mean by "getting the initial rubbers of the blade". I have the racket at 2:21 and I've been using it for about 3 months and I think it is wearing out a little bit.
stiga vaporizer 5* , ive been using this for 2months and i love it .. im buying a new Stiga vaporizer 5* asap .. so if u need something good for kinda cheap buy stiga vaporizer ! :-)
Informative series. Returning to the sport after a lengthy absence. My partner bought me a Yinhe T4S blade along with Yinhe 'Moon Max Tense' rubbers....which seem fine to me...so far.
Hi, love your videos, I'm just wondering how the rating system works, so like when an intermediate level player has like 2000 points, how do they gain/lose points. Oh and what is your opinion on the dhs a5002, from what I hear, its quite heavy and slows you down. Anyways thanks!
Is there any difference between the black and the red side of the bat? I have heard that the red side is supposed to be for your forehand, is that true? So is there any difference at all except for the color? I have always wondered :)
I had a custom paddle made back in 1977 while in college. Forehand rubber for speed and spin. Rubber was very sticky. The other side for backhand. Special lamented wood. Cost me $80. That’s $444 in today’s money! Loved that paddle. It lasted years but I did notice my spins were slower. We moved into our retirement home last week and discovered my old paddle in a box. The rubber was hard as a rock 🤣. I need to get back into TT again. Time for a new rig 😊
Hey thanks for your vids love them I play at my school with my friends, we played for 2 years. We use ready Butterfly rackets of the Timo Boll, Michael Maze series. How are them?
These sound like reasonable bats to start with. If you've played with them for 2 years then the rubbers have probably worn out so you should consider getting new rubbers for them. Something like Mark V or Sriver is a good option. Or you could buy a new pre-made bat.
The wood has 10-20% value until a certain point in your table tennis level. Once you cross that level, there is a definite need for some extra help from the wood to help finish the points. Carbon is essential once a person starts to play in leagues and can't simply just outlast the opponent. There is a need for winning shots after that.
After consistency of keeping the ball on table (defensive type game) and watching this video I bought a Giant Dragon bat with 88 Speed, 82 Spin and 55 Control though I was looking for a better bat this one. But this was the best available here in local market 😂. It took me 3 days to adjust myself with new bat but now I'm quite comfortable. I got better control and moved to aggressive games, even started forehand smashes. Thanks @PingSkills.
Hello guys, I would like to know your opinion on the famous Butterfly Sriver rubber. Is it overrated? Or it is actually a great rubber option as first or second custom-made racket?
I've been playing with my crappy pre made racket for years. The rubber was dead within a month of heavy use in college, and I grew accustomed to the speed that the dead rubber and extremely thin foam provided. I think I ought to be safe going to a tenergy 05 for my forehand and something softer like a sriver for my backhand. I'm sticking to a 5 ply lightweight blade to make sure I'm not overdoing the speed
Hard to say for sure but Tenergy is extremely fast especially if you are used to a dead racket. You might be best trying Sriver as a stepping stone and get used to that first.
+PingSkills I finally tried my Ping skills touch. At first it was hard to control the rubber but some hours later I got more balls on the table. Still some balls are going out. Really good blade, rubber and the combination of it. Good job!
Hi PingSkills, the video was exactly what i was looking for. So thanks a lot. I've been learning and playing Table Tennis on my own for about 5 months. I play everyday and i use a Pre Made bat, so i think is time to get a Custom Bat. Now my answer is, if i buy an inexpensive rubber and blade (about 70 dollars in Xushaofa rubbers and blade), does it worth? i mean, it is enough better than the pre made bat? or i should buy some more expensive equipment? Thanks again and greetings from Chile ;)
Hi Pablo, The pre made rubbers will wear out over time so you do need to change at some stage. As you get better I definitely think it's worth upgrading. Keep up the good work with your table tennis.
PingSkills It is a Ninja cheap bats but im going an inter university table tennis tournament because I recently improved highly at it, I thought about Stiga Pro Carbon or is there a better choice?
+Raiyan Ahmed As there are so many different choices we don't really keep up with all the different bats and so I haven't tried that specific one. If you like you can ask a question on the PingSkills website about the bat and we can open it up to see if other PingSkillers have any thoughts on it. As the next step up from the PingSkills Rook we recommend the PingSkills Touch with Mark V. It is a custom made bat.
I use gki euro V currently and it's price is 1500 inr and would like to upgrade, but due to financial situation can only buy a bat till 3500 inr. Please recommend a good bat.
hii..u guyz are really awesome,thnx alot. but i have question. i am mid-level player. which tt bat should i choose in PREMAADE.i love to smash & chop too. i had tried butterfly bat (wakaba 2000) but its not so comfortable & not even spin the ball very well. then which premade bat should i choose???butterfly or else???
Hi Guys! In a video from EmratThitch, I've heard that in chinese tt philosophy, the most important part of a bat is the wood (80%), then come the rubbers (20%). This statement is probably more relevant for high level players. What do you think about it?
TT Romain Bern of course this statement is completely wrong with those numbers; you could use a glas plate or stiff cardboard with high quality rubber and wouldn't notice as much of a big difference as to a professional blade than you would notice when having a professional blade with high quality rubber (even of different pimple structures - already a huge difference!) or with a layer cut from your car tires glued onto your blade. At first the bad blade would feel weird, but you would get used to it (although it would still impair good shots and you would notice how it's hindering you) - but if the rubber is lacking, there is nothing you can add or do. What he wanted to say is: the blade is important, it gives the feel & the "direct" interaction with the ball, while the rubber does its "rubber-magic". So in order to learn a good stroke, the blade is important, so that you brain learns how interaction with a ball feels (stiff materials don't give that much feedback). But as mentioned, those 80 blade/20 rubber numbers are obviously ridiculous! It's more like "the blade is very important: 0/80 isn't 100%; not full potential". He should have worded it more like that.
You misunderstood EmRatThich! He mentioned that in China the bat's characteristics are 80% responsible for the feel (spin, control) and rubbers provide the speed, while in Europe, players choose harder bats for speed, and softer rubbers for control and spin.
Hi PingSkills, while buying a TT racquet, we see some stats on it like spin 98, speed 93 etc. Could you please make one video/ explain like what those parameters exactly stand for, how they impact the performance of the bat and what would be the ideal numbers to choose while selecting a bat for purchasing. Thank you.
Those numbers are not very consistent across brands as the companies make up these numbers themselves hence I don't think they are that helpful. You could take a look at tabletennisdb.com for some more advice on equipment. I think the main points you need to worry about are covered in this video. What bat are you using at the moment?
Hi Jolan, for some reason I can't reply directly to your comment. Sorry but I haven't used that bat so can't really say. I'd guess it would be OK as a first bat to start learning the game with.
Maybe, we've discussed this on our podcast previously. I think if you make it really obvious that you are giving them the point then it is just as demeaning as beating them 11-0.
Hi Leon Keuls, It's really a personal preference. I like an all round blade with faster rubbers so for me the PingSkills Touch with Xiom Vega Pro or Tenergy 05 is good. If you go with something really fast it will have less control, you can't have both! What bat are you using at the moment?
Leon Keuls I don't know much about the Killerspin jet7000 sorry so I can't comment on that (it may be very good?) but I know the Mark V is good and will be a good step up from your current bat.
We recommend the PingSkills Rook - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pre-made-bats.php There are lots of good options though and it does come down to personal choice. Good luck with your search.
I am one of ur biggest fans and I play table tennis at my school and I'm in the team but my bat is just a normal rage Dunlop bat so is it good or should I replace it with a better bat.
I've never seen them sorry so I can't really say. We recommend the PingSkills Rook but as we mention a lot, there are many good choices. www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pingskills-rook
Sorry, we don't review equipment because there are so many different combinations and we try to focus on teaching skills. Killerspin is a well known brand.
Once the rubber loses it's grip, it's time to get some new ones. However if there is just dust on the rubber you can clean that off with just a damp sponge and some water. Wipe the rubber and ensure it is dry and you should be good to go. Here's a video that should help you out: th-cam.com/video/DnEmm4dP7S8/w-d-xo.html
Hi guys, first of all i want to say thank you for the tips, i bought a premade blade Is a Palio Master 2 with great rotation and speed, if u know it can u tell me if is a good racket ?
*Hello guys. The BEST way to choose equips is to buy the most expensive setup out there and if it does not suit your level, buy the 2nd most expensive gear. Work your way down until you find the best setup.*
hey _voidz_ friendship 729 fx is a cheap and out of the age rubber. it's out of the 70's or 80's. Nevertheless the top sheet (rubber) is of good and long lasting quality, especially if your playing outside. For learning it is not good, because of the sponge. You can get now 729 fx lightning oder super soft, with a lot better sponge to practice the technics. in your case I would recommend the lightning with a thicker sponge, that you used with the regular or old fx, which aren't much more expensive.
Thanks for sharing this! I've watched this 2nd time. One thing not mentioned here is the thickness of the rubber, although it's mentioned elsewhere. My question is what is the "optimal" thickness and if both sides have same or different thickness and if so what is your recommendation for both sides? Roman
Roman Adar Again, it really is personal preference. For the pre-made bats you don't get a choice but for your first custom bat I'd say 2mm. Cheers, Jeff.
Can we get an update for this video? still has some relavent info, but would really like to see options for the different levels of play. Also would love to see a slightly cheaper option in your store. Not quite at the "practice every day to become a competitor" level just yet, but would like a paddle that isn't just the one sitting idly by that is crap. Looking to spend 20-30$ on one though. Any suggestions?
Then the palio master 2 would seem OK but you may consider moving to your first custom bat where you buy the blade and rubbers separately and when the rubbers wear out you replace them and keep the blade. A good all round blade with something like Mark V or Sriver would be a good example of this. It would be more expensive than the Palio but it will also be better quality too.
Hi PingSkills, I just started out playing Table Tennis, I can say I'm still on a beginner stage since I only know the basic but we have this tournament for fun in our workplace. And so, I decided to purchase a Butterfly TBC 301. I just want to know your opinion if this is an Ok racket for a beginner?
Jubert Guzman Good luck at the tournament! I haven't used this before but Butterfly is a good brand so I think it will be fine for you as a starting bat. Have you had a chance to play with it yet?
Not yet, I just had it ordered and it does not arrive yet. It was years since I played Table Tennis and I was glad our office had a table installed so we can play often now. I got to say I learned a lot from your videos.
Hi PingSkills, just got my new Butterfly TBC 301 bat. I kind of don't like it because I think it does not suit my playing style. It has low spin on it but more on a control side I guess... What odd is that it's rubber is glossy instead of this mat finish (I don't think if it's normal or not). P.S. Can you suggest a good beginner bat for me?
Jubert Guzman We recommend the PingSkills Rook which you can find on the PingSkills website. We aren't really equipment experts though. We just recommend a few bats on our site that we know are good but there are literally hundreds of good options.
I'm just getting into this great sport and have been playing for about a month everyday, i've just ordered my table for home and was wondering if anyone could link me to a good pre-made bat that would allow me to put spin on my shots and have some degree of control Thanks
Some Questions 1. what are the black and red sides for, any considerations around them ? 2. for a Custom one, does paddle wood needs to get replaced like rubber obviously does and how does one come to know about it ?.
The black and red sides are so your opponent can tell what rubber you are hitting the ball with. This is only important if you use different rubbers. So if you have the same rubber on both sides it doesn't affect anything. It's just the rules that you need them. As for the blade, it will last a very long time. Alois used one of his for 20 years! Cheers, Jeff.
Hello, Jeff and Alois. I consider myself a pretty good player but I only have experience playing with the pimple bats. I now want to purchase my first pre-made rubber bat for a fairly advanced player like myself. I've been browsing around and noticed three elements on the spec sheets of a few bats. They are: control, spin, and speed. What do each of these things mean and which are best suited to which playing styles? I use the shakehand hold and consider myself an attacking player, by the way. Cheers.
+Swiizzey The ratings aren't very useful because they aren't standard. The manufacturer can make up whatever they like for these ratings. If you've only ever used a pimple bat you'll find a big difference when going to an inverted rubber. We recommend the PingSkills Rook as a good first pre-made bat. There are of course lots of good options out there. It's important to not get something too fast to start with so you can learn to play a full stroke. You do need something though that can generate some good spin as table tennis is a game of spin.
Hi PingSkills, I am an all round player, and I have selected a Tibhar Stratus Power Wood. Now the question is the rubber. I want 1. An offensive low spin high speed high control rubber on the Backhand 2. An offensive high speed high spin medium control rubber on the forehand. I have selected the Yasaka Mark V as my backhand. Other choices are Butterfly Tackiness. For my Forehand I have selected a Tibhar Aurus. Other choices are Tibhar Genius or Donic Gold/Platinum. For my style of play what rubbers do you suggest?
Thinking of replacing my 2 original bats, with the much better rook bats, coudnt you just replace the rubbers on the rook bat, when they finally wear out? Thanks, great channel!
Yes, you can replace the rubbers on the rook bat when they wear out. The rubbers are glued on with a strong glue so you do need to be careful when taking the old ones off.
my bumper design is a plastic surface and a rubber underneath, basically 2 things before the wood. and the side are not even or fit at wood edge, making it hard to gain control on side practicing.
What kind of rubber makes youre stroke faster (on the custom blades)? On the custom blade, is there a sponge between the rubber and the wood? Really like youre channel!!
+daniel cadena garcia The inverted rubbers or "normal" rubbers have a sponge which can vary in thickness. There are hundreds of different types of rubber but we recommend a few on the PingSkills website.
I don't know if this has already been commented already or not, but I don't think you gave hardbat play its fair credit. Maybe I missed it in one of your videos or sometime during this one, but hardbat is a respectable type of play, I think. People new to Table Tennis shouldn't dismiss hardbat bats just because they aren't the standard.
Interesting point. There is the World Championships of Ping Pong where only hard bats are allowed and it certainly is great viewing. I really enjoy watching skilled hard bat players battling it out. It really is a different game if you only use hard bats.
+Sahib Matharu You caught me at a good time :) It sounds like a perfect bat for that. The rubbers will lose grip over time though and need to be replaced. That's why as players join table tennis clubs and play even more often they tend to go for a custom bat. Do you find it good and are you able to get some good spin on your serves and some topspin on your forehand?
I pretty satisfied with the results. I get good spins while service, however i find it difficult to produce topspin in forehand considering my tenure with sports is not much. The bat is great for the money i paid.
+Sahib Matharu Excellent. See if you can get someone in the office to help you practice the forehand topspin. The main thing is to get the start and finish positions correct. Watch our video on the forehand topspin (you can find it on the PingSkills website under Lessons -> Strokes & Techniques). If you get those right the rest of the stroke will start to fall into place. Good luck!
for all of those starting to begin playing table tennis. one of the most important things is, that you find a bat that suits you right. that means a bat with a handle that fits to your hands and technics. small hands small handle, large hands thicker handle, and whether straight, konkav or anatomic the one that suits you right ! : )
+Pritesh Mathur I haven't tried that before. It does sound like a fast blade. Some players like that but I preferred an all round blade. It really is a personal choice. If you think it's good then that is what matters.
Thanks for watching! We have a whole series of videos on choosing table tennis equipment on our website: www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment
Enjoy!
PingSkills i train about 4 months twice a week and i have joola carbon pro is that racket good for me?
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What about oversized blade? Please give me a review about it. I am planning to buy Stiga Clipper WRB Oversize blade. Will it be a good decision?
Can you put a rubber on top of another rubber
"Quality of the rubber on the wood". This game is full of innuendos.
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Always remember the quality of the rubber touching the balls.
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"Even the best rubbers will wear out." - Relatable.
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The Palio Expert 2 is a great bat for beginners. I was recommended it by my tabletennis coach. It's got great rubbers, a decent blade - and it's far superior to the majority of bats you find in sports shops.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
tbh, the palio expert, master and legend range is quite good. i'm about to get a palio legend 3 for christmas. hoping for the best.
I'm three years into my table tennis journey now, and I do feel as though I've finally got the right combination of bat and rubbers. It took quite a few hit and miss trials with different rubbers to get there - I think maybe new players need to be fairly patient with the process because you have to find what feels right for you. Even the best coaches can't actually know what feels right for you. As a local league player who likes to mix defence and attack, with plenty of spinny loops, I've ended up plumping for the Hurricane 3 on both sides. I love its control and looping spin, plus I can still get plenty of pace in my top spins when I want, even though it isn't the fastest rubber. Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding your equipment. Good luck with your table tennis.
Hi Mrinal Chauhan,
I wouldn't make the weight the first thing to consider but you do want a bat that feels comfortable for you when playing. Generally speaking, weight is not a big issue when choosing a bat.
hey i have heard that there are certain types of bats but they are 1 star 2 star 3 star and goes all the way up to 5 please tell me what this means???
+Omar M Idrissi These sound like how they might grade pre-made bats. I don't pay too much attention to these ratings as they are just made up by the company making the bat as a marketing tool. For some recommendations check out the bats on the PingSkills website store. These are bats we recommend but there are lots of good choices available.
+Jeff Plumb Thanks alot
Can you please tell me if my bat is good? It is a pre made revolution 6500 Dunlop bat.
+Gaming It's probably OK for a very short time. I haven't used it myself but I imagine that the rubbers won't last too long and then you'll need to try something else. It's important to be able to generate spin to keep developing.
Thanks for the clear explanation.. What is the difference between 3 star, 4 star and 5 star bats ??
I'd say not a lot. If the bats have ratings like this they are probably the fairly basic pre-made bats and the ratings are just marketing tactics by the companies.
@@pingskills That's something we need to spread awareness towards
"Use quality rubbers" That´s what she said..
Bruhhh
Oh come on
😂😂👊
Oof
Lol
I went to a specialized shop where they assembled a bat for me, based on the fact that I was a relative beginner with a preference for attack. After a year I bought another one which is exactly the same. I want to stick with these for at least 2 years or until I find that my technique cannot be improved (not perfect technique but touching my borders of potential to improve). And then I might try making a leap with better gear. Is this a viable plan?
I find that many enthusiastic amateurs expect too much impact from changing gear. So I fully agree with the second part of your video.
That sounds good to me. As we mention in the video, once you are playing full strokes consistently then you can think about going to a faster rubber.
Hi Tarun Telang,
I don't know. I haven't ever seen the ITTFA mark? To be a legal rubber to use in an official ITTF competition, the rubber must have the ITTF logo on it.
***** You're welcome.
PingSkills hi i use a stiga pro carbon is that a good bat for a amature whos been playing for 2 and a half years at my school or should i use the new stiga titan?
Frostgaming Frosty I'm not really an equipment expert but the carbon does sound like a fast blade. I'd probably recommend a more all round type blade myself. Something like the Stiga All Round classic or the PingSkills Touch :)
Yay my paddle is good
PingSkills
I want to buy the original table tennis bat , but here in Pakistan only local bat are available, please can u tell me from where i buy the original bat which are using by professional players , thanks
I would also recommend 729 and DHS hurricane 3 rubbers for entry level custom made bats - as they are easy to control and at the same time durable.
@Danny Edwardo Actually there are some philosophies that suggest you to use harder rubber with flexible blade to learn spin.
It is interesting that you mentioned "Butterfly Sriver" and "Yasaka Mark V". When I was playing in the 1970s and 80s they were two of the fastest rubbers on the market and were recommended for advanced attacking players. My Dad was a coach and had a variety of bats ranging from Mark V right down to an ultra slow anti-loop rubber called "Toni Hold". I have still got them in my loft. When I was a Junior learner I used Butterfly;s "All-Round D-13" and when I gained a bit more confidence, I upgraded to "Super Sriver" which was slightly slower than Sriver but had more control. Times must have changed a bit since then !
Thanks for sharing your story. It certainly is interesting to hear about how things used to be and how things have changed.
The ball has changed a bit since then )) it's got much slower.
Back in the 80's I used to love Friendship 729 (2.0) which was a tacky rubber with good control but not too fast for a beginner to intermediate. I used to love playing people with Stiga Mark V. It had a ton of spin but when you gave any spin back it seemed a nightmare for them to control. Other popular at that the time were Butterfly Sriver and Double Happiness. Speed gluing was only emerging as where blades with carbon fibre
Thank for your teaching.I can control the ball more better than before.
Hi Another Cuber, I've never used the Nittaku Japan Original Shake or the Stag Power Drive Plus. Maybe some other people can help you out. You could also ask a question using the ask the coach section of the PingSkills website and we could open it up to other PingSkillers to see if they have any feedback for you.
Hello Alois and Jeff !! You guys rule. I have learnt everything about TT from you guys and I believe I am slowly moving on to the intermediate level. I recently got a new DHS Professional Quick Attack X series Carbon TT racket.
I got the feel of the racket within a week and a half.
Its slow enough for me to not lose control and fast enough to attack consistently. The rubber on both side is good. The most significant improvement that I am seeing in my game is the increased consistency in my backhand topspin against backspin.
Previously, even after getting to the level of the ball and starting the racket from knee height, I was not totally comfortable in hitting the ball when it had considerable backspin and took to chopping instead, which I particularly hate. But this new racket grips the spin so well and never lets me down provided body position, wrist movement etc. is decent.
I would like to see guys do a "Who is the best in which shot among Ma Long, Zhange Jike and Fan Zhendong", with analysis of the techniques.
Lastly the passion with which you people talk about TT is infectious. You guys simply rock !!
+Sinchan Pathak Thanks so much for the kind words. It's nice we've been able to help you. And congratulations on your improvement. Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll keep improving!
Remember, rubbers wear out remember to replace them from time to time.
Good advice *****
After how many months we need to change rubber
@@pirateworks3423 it depends on how much you play and it's different for each rubber. For example, I have my fxp 1 year and through this year I have changed my els twice. It mostly depends on you, when you feel it doesn't do the work well, it needs change.
I can do spins and smash I am buying new bat when I searched online in amazon it shows stag company rackets showing 4start 5 star I am getting confused plz help
@@pirateworks3423 never buy rackets like that if you want a good pre made racket then I suggest stiga evolution or stiga pro carbon
Hi Jason Wong,
You can buy bats from the PingSkills website.
do pros always use really fast rubbers or do some also use the softer ones for more control?
Unless they are defensive players, they top 100 in the world will al be using really fast rubbers. However not everyone should start with fast rubbers and it's hard to learn the correct techniques for your strokes if you can't control the ball.
@@pingskills i started with a kinda slow rubber after 1 or 2 months i want something faster i can tell i could control more
Thanks ping skills! Played with my first beginners bat for about a year and improved a lot, feel like this advice helped me a lot
Great to hear. Keep enjoying this great game!
First I want to say I thoroughly enjoy your videos. They're very informative and easy to follow. Since I'm relatively new to the sport I just have a simple question. Since you had mentioned the blade accounts for 10-20% of performance, would I be able to keep blade when it is time for me to advance to a new rubber; or would it be best for me to upgrade both?
Depending on what blade you have now you certainly can keep the same blade. On a pre-made bat the rubber is hard to take off but you certainly can keep the blade. Most people generally buy a new blade when they first upgrade to a custom bat and then keep that same blade for a number of years.
Thank you for this very helpful advice, guys. It really helped me to choose the bat that's best for me personally. I'm not really an aggressive player. I focus more on spin, ball placement around the edges and strategy in terms of drawing the opponent out of position and exploiting their errors. I found that having to adapt to whatever bats are supplied is unhelpful and i knew that to take my game to the next level, i would need to invest in my own bat and bring it everywhere in order to build my consistency. Furthermore, i also felt that playing with supplied (cheap) balls was creating bad habits. The prices of various bats ranged from AUD$25-$100, but i didn't focus on the price. I went with what felt right in my hand in terms of weight, and narrowed it down to 2 bats and them used guide to determine which one would suit my style the best. It is a Donic Waldner 700 and the guide has the attack at 90, the spin at 80, & the control at 70. Price was AUD$45, and i got some 3* balls while i was at it.
As i'm finding my consistency, i'm really starting to become more solid as a player and even less predictable, which can only be good. I had also recognized that my topspin was my weakness, and that's what i'm really working on now. I'm so happy with new bat and i certainly feel like i've made the right choice with it. Again, i cannot thank you guys enough!. Your advice was most helpful!! :)
Congratulations on getting your new bat Matty King. It's great to hear your progress and good luck with your table tennis for the future.
Thanks very much, guys. I felt like i was being held back in a sense, but since i've been using this bat, my topspin technique is really improving. I feel like i've got a lot better control as well in terms of ball placement. I understand i'm only at the pre-made stage, but hopefully once i've got my topspin down-pat, i can look towards getting a custom. I was just wondering what you guys thought in terms of this particular bat, but you're probably different players to me anyway. In any case, thanks again. :) Cheers.
Matty King I haven't used that particular bat but Donic is a good brand. It sounds like a good choice for your first pre-made bat. I'm sure over time you will be looking at a custom bat but keep on working hard and enjoying your table tennis in the mean time. Best of luck!
Thanks guys. :) Cheers.
Hello +PingSkills!
I have some trouble choosing a bat...
Im an offensive player that likes to have control and spin on the ball.
Can you recomend anything?
I like killerspin, stiga, yasaka bats!
You are the best channel! I found every answer for every question in my mind. Thank you.
You're welcome. I'm glad you are finding our videos useful.
Dear PingSkills, I have been playing for about half a year and thanks to your videos I have learned my fundamentals. I am currently using a paddle that I bought at a sports store near me, but the rubber is dead. Could you please recommend a good custom paddle? Thanks.
We sell the PingSkills Touch with Mark V which would be a good option. :) The stiga all round classic with Mark V would also be good. Another option would be the Butterfly Primorac OFF- with Sriver.
Let us know what you choose. It's always exciting to get new equipment. If you have any other questions let us know. You can also ask questions on the PingSkills website using the "ask the coach" section.
I'm glad you've been finding our lessons helpful. Keep up the good work!
This was helpful. I was about the buy the no sponge bat for my school tournament.
I'm glad it helped.
Those things are toys haha
Hi Sunil Rana Magar,
The most important part of the bat is the rubber. The blade is less important but does affect the speed. That's why we recommend an all round blade for most players and then you can adjust the speed by getting different rubbers. Of course some people like slower blades and some people like faster blades.
Where can I buy a racket from your shop? Is it like online or smth?
You also can start to develop a half stroke when you have a really good racket with lots of grip and sponge because it takes your opponents spin and reverses it. When I used a racket with less sponge and less grip, I had this long swing just so I could get appropriate amount of spin on the ball ... so I would say its not all negative to have less grip. The problem with a racket that has a thin sponge and less grip was that it was really hard to block topspins.
please do a video on standard types of rubbers and their peculiar features like you talked about mach 5 !! that will be very helpful !! :D
Mark V
Thank you so much to both Coach.. i started off young playing table tennis with my dad.. but then stopped at 20, now i turned 40 this year, wanting to start again.. hope i can, thank you for this video…
If you have an ok pre-made bat and if the blade has such little significance, could you use a pre made blade and once the rubber dies, could you buy new rubbers for that blade?
Hi Joshua Gold,
You certainly can do that. The trick is getting the initial rubbers of the blade as with pre-made bats they glue them on with really strong glue. It takes a bit of effort but once you do you certainly can use the blade. We have done that with some of our pre-made bats for players before and it works quite well.
PingSkills Cheers for the speedy reply, only had my current bat for the last 2 months and thats when I first played but am loving it. :)
Joshua Gold Good to hear.
+PingSkills What do you mean by "getting the initial rubbers of the blade". I have the racket at 2:21 and I've been using it for about 3 months and I think it is wearing out a little bit.
DuskGlade he is saying it is hard to get the worn out rubbers off the wood because of the strong glue they use. but once you do, you can use the blade
This is a gold mine
Q: “How often should I change the rubber”
A: “After every shot boyo, after every shot”
😂
stiga vaporizer 5* , ive been using this for 2months and i love it .. im buying a new Stiga vaporizer 5* asap .. so if u need something good for kinda cheap buy stiga vaporizer ! :-)
Informative series.
Returning to the sport after a lengthy absence. My partner bought me a Yinhe T4S blade along with Yinhe 'Moon Max Tense' rubbers....which seem fine to me...so far.
Great to hear. Welcome back to the sport :)
I'm a really good backhand topspin player and I have loads of tournaments coming up
Can you recommend some good bats specific for backhand?
Thanks
Craze ZR Hurricane 2, I’m pretty much the same as you and I use the hurricane 2 so I would recommend that, though it is quite expensive
Good to hear. I would use a rubber that enhances your topspin. Something like Xiom Vega Pro or Tenergy 05.
@@pingskills thanks so much
I watch nearly all your videos:)
Hey,great videos keep it up
just want to ask if you can do how to build your racket
Thanks. Here's a video showing you how to replace a rubber - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis/equipment-lessons/replacing-your-rubber/
+pingskills
I just bought a new racket. It's called
Donic Waldner 900 racket
Awesome, it's great getting new equipment!
Hi, love your videos, I'm just wondering how the rating system works, so like when an intermediate level player has like 2000 points, how do they gain/lose points.
Oh and what is your opinion on the dhs a5002, from what I hear, its quite heavy and slows you down. Anyways thanks!
Great video Jeff and Alois
Thanks!
Alois is just amazing
Is there any difference between the black and the red side of the bat? I have heard that the red side is supposed to be for your forehand, is that true? So is there any difference at all except for the color? I have always wondered :)
Hi metallicagabbe98,
If you have the same rubber on both sides then there is no difference between the red and the black.
Oh I see, thanks for the response!
metallicagabbe98 You're welcome.
mine is 8 years old. it's time to upgrade 😂
@Forget It what about 2 days thats mine
th-cam.com/video/sBQpOAkPW0k/w-d-xo.html
Mine is 38 y.o. (chinese double fish 1982) and it‘s just fine. Lots of spin
I had a custom paddle made back in 1977 while in college. Forehand rubber for speed and spin. Rubber was very sticky. The other side for backhand. Special lamented wood. Cost me $80. That’s $444 in today’s money! Loved that paddle. It lasted years but I did notice my spins were slower. We moved into our retirement home last week and discovered my old paddle in a box. The rubber was hard as a rock 🤣. I need to get back into TT again. Time for a new rig 😊
What brands of bats do you guys use?
Damn this video was soo helpful!
Glad you liked it!
Hey thanks for your vids love them I play at my school with my friends, we played for 2 years. We use ready Butterfly rackets of the Timo Boll, Michael Maze series. How are them?
These sound like reasonable bats to start with. If you've played with them for 2 years then the rubbers have probably worn out so you should consider getting new rubbers for them. Something like Mark V or Sriver is a good option. Or you could buy a new pre-made bat.
The wood has 10-20% value until a certain point in your table tennis level. Once you cross that level, there is a definite need for some extra help from the wood to help finish the points. Carbon is essential once a person starts to play in leagues and can't simply just outlast the opponent. There is a need for winning shots after that.
I love the format of the video
I'm glad you liked it.
Very helpful guys 😀
Thanks Jordo
After consistency of keeping the ball on table (defensive type game) and watching this video I bought a Giant Dragon bat with 88 Speed, 82 Spin and 55 Control though I was looking for a better bat this one. But this was the best available here in local market 😂.
It took me 3 days to adjust myself with new bat but now I'm quite comfortable. I got better control and moved to aggressive games, even started forehand smashes.
Thanks @PingSkills.
Great to hear. Keep up the good work!
Hello guys, I would like to know your opinion on the famous Butterfly Sriver rubber. Is it overrated? Or it is actually a great rubber option as first or second custom-made racket?
I think it's a really good rubber for a first and second custom made racket. When speed glue was legal I actually used it as my preferred rubber.
Thank you for your answer!
You're welcome.
I've been playing with my crappy pre made racket for years. The rubber was dead within a month of heavy use in college, and I grew accustomed to the speed that the dead rubber and extremely thin foam provided. I think I ought to be safe going to a tenergy 05 for my forehand and something softer like a sriver for my backhand. I'm sticking to a 5 ply lightweight blade to make sure I'm not overdoing the speed
Hard to say for sure but Tenergy is extremely fast especially if you are used to a dead racket. You might be best trying Sriver as a stepping stone and get used to that first.
Today I got my Ping skills bat and It looks really good. Still I have not tried it but I will
Excellent. Let me know how you like it after you've played with it for a while.
+PingSkills I finally tried my Ping skills touch. At first it was hard to control the rubber but some hours later I got more balls on the table. Still some balls are going out. Really good blade, rubber and the combination of it. Good job!
Great to hear. The more you use it the more you will get used to the speed and spin. Keep enjoying your table tennis!
Dima Shevchenko how much is the price
Hi PingSkills, the video was exactly what i was looking for. So thanks a lot.
I've been learning and playing Table Tennis on my own for about 5 months. I play everyday and i use a Pre Made bat, so i think is time to get a Custom Bat.
Now my answer is, if i buy an inexpensive rubber and blade (about 70 dollars in Xushaofa rubbers and blade), does it worth? i mean, it is enough better than the pre made bat? or i should buy some more expensive equipment?
Thanks again and greetings from Chile ;)
Hi Pablo,
The pre made rubbers will wear out over time so you do need to change at some stage. As you get better I definitely think it's worth upgrading.
Keep up the good work with your table tennis.
Weena compare
Could you tell me a good bat with a price under 100$ and longlasting with a good sponge and all.
+Raiyan Ahmed For people looking for their first bat we recommend the PingSkills Rook. You can find out more about this bat on the PingSkills website.
PingSkills this is not my 1st bat but I need a good one with the price of under 100$
+Raiyan Ahmed What bat do you use at the moment?
PingSkills It is a Ninja cheap bats but im going an inter university table tennis tournament because I recently improved highly at it, I thought about Stiga Pro Carbon or is there a better choice?
+Raiyan Ahmed As there are so many different choices we don't really keep up with all the different bats and so I haven't tried that specific one. If you like you can ask a question on the PingSkills website about the bat and we can open it up to see if other PingSkillers have any thoughts on it.
As the next step up from the PingSkills Rook we recommend the PingSkills Touch with Mark V. It is a custom made bat.
I use gki euro V currently and it's price is 1500 inr and would like to upgrade, but due to financial situation can only buy a bat till 3500 inr. Please recommend a good bat.
You cant get custom bet in this price range.. Price of mark v rubber with jonear hii blade is around 7500 inr
how is the zjk super zlc can you do a review i am planning to purchase one
hii..u guyz are really awesome,thnx alot. but i have question. i am mid-level player. which tt bat should i choose in PREMAADE.i love to smash & chop too. i had tried butterfly bat (wakaba 2000) but its not so comfortable & not even spin the ball very well. then which premade bat should i choose???butterfly or else???
+Shubham Athalye Butterfly is an excellent brand. We also recommend the PingSkills Rook which you can find out more about on the PingSkills website.
no premade lol
Its good that I'm poor that I can't just change the custom rubber every week ahaha
Isn't it kinda difficult to do
I just had the company assembled it
VERY VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Hi Guys! In a video from EmratThitch, I've heard that in chinese tt philosophy, the most important part of a bat is the wood (80%), then come the rubbers (20%).
This statement is probably more relevant for high level players. What do you think about it?
I'd say the opposite. Rubbers will have 80% effect and the blade 20%.
It depends. Blade decides your playing style and rubber supports it with spin and speed.
TT Romain Bern of course this statement is completely wrong with those numbers; you could use a glas plate or stiff cardboard with high quality rubber and wouldn't notice as much of a big difference as to a professional blade than you would notice when having a professional blade with high quality rubber (even of different pimple structures - already a huge difference!) or with a layer cut from your car tires glued onto your blade.
At first the bad blade would feel weird, but you would get used to it (although it would still impair good shots and you would notice how it's hindering you) - but if the rubber is lacking, there is nothing you can add or do.
What he wanted to say is: the blade is important, it gives the feel & the "direct" interaction with the ball, while the rubber does its "rubber-magic". So in order to learn a good stroke, the blade is important, so that you brain learns how interaction with a ball feels (stiff materials don't give that much feedback). But as mentioned, those 80 blade/20 rubber numbers are obviously ridiculous! It's more like "the blade is very important: 0/80 isn't 100%; not full potential". He should have worded it more like that.
You misunderstood EmRatThich! He mentioned that in China the bat's characteristics are 80% responsible for the feel (spin, control) and rubbers provide the speed, while in Europe, players choose harder bats for speed, and softer rubbers for control and spin.
Hi PingSkills, while buying a TT racquet, we see some stats on it like spin 98, speed 93 etc. Could you please make one video/ explain like what those parameters exactly stand for, how they impact the performance of the bat and what would be the ideal numbers to choose while selecting a bat for purchasing.
Thank you.
Those numbers are not very consistent across brands as the companies make up these numbers themselves hence I don't think they are that helpful. You could take a look at tabletennisdb.com for some more advice on equipment. I think the main points you need to worry about are covered in this video. What bat are you using at the moment?
Thanks, you guys are awesome.
+Roman Odhako No worries, you're welcome :)
Hi Jolan, for some reason I can't reply directly to your comment. Sorry but I haven't used that bat so can't really say. I'd guess it would be OK as a first bat to start learning the game with.
but if it gets to 10-0 You're supposed to give them a mercy point
Maybe, we've discussed this on our podcast previously. I think if you make it really obvious that you are giving them the point then it is just as demeaning as beating them 11-0.
Hi Leon Keuls, It's really a personal preference. I like an all round blade with faster rubbers so for me the PingSkills Touch with Xiom Vega Pro or Tenergy 05 is good. If you go with something really fast it will have less control, you can't have both!
What bat are you using at the moment?
I am using Stiga Fire Vortex 4*
And i like that one really much, but i want to try something else:)
What should i choose if im an offensive player: Yasaka mark V or Killerspin jet700?
Leon Keuls I don't know much about the Killerspin jet7000 sorry so I can't comment on that (it may be very good?) but I know the Mark V is good and will be a good step up from your current bat.
Okey, thank you!
Hello I am looking for a bat around the £40 range, do you have any suggestions on a good bat to use?
We recommend the PingSkills Rook - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pre-made-bats.php
There are lots of good options though and it does come down to personal choice. Good luck with your search.
PingSkills hey do i have to pay some kind of thing when you send me something from your hq to eu?(where is it)
I am one of ur biggest fans and I play table tennis at my school and I'm in the team but my bat is just a normal rage Dunlop bat so is it good or should I replace it with a better bat.
Can't I just re-cover my pre made bat with good rubber? It was a nice bat when I bought it
Yes
I'm quite late, but are the Penn State paddles any good? I saw them at Walmart at an unbelievable price, and was wondering if I would buy them.
I've never seen them sorry so I can't really say. We recommend the PingSkills Rook but as we mention a lot, there are many good choices.
www.pingskills.com/table-tennis-store/pingskills-rook
"Drop of your racket"? I thought it was a bat lol
Ben McClean Bat or Racket, we use the terms interchangeably here in Australia.
Such a great challenge, could you review the Killerspin Jet800 Speed N1
Channel not challenge, not sure why I said that. Also how can I make my rubber stickier again? And remove the dust
Sorry, we don't review equipment because there are so many different combinations and we try to focus on teaching skills. Killerspin is a well known brand.
Once the rubber loses it's grip, it's time to get some new ones. However if there is just dust on the rubber you can clean that off with just a damp sponge and some water. Wipe the rubber and ensure it is dry and you should be good to go. Here's a video that should help you out: th-cam.com/video/DnEmm4dP7S8/w-d-xo.html
Is a 5 star Stiga bat okay because I cant really order a custom made bat online
Arttu Ylitervo not very ok.
Tahsin Amio wasnt asking for your opinion
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Tahsin Amio k
kannattaa kyllä ostaa kumit erikseen, suurimmissa kaupungeissa on kyllä pingiskauppoja
Thanks.. i love your show.. and easy to understand
Yeah i find the bat pretty Good but im Working on My techniuqe
Nice, that's what I like to hear :)
Hi guys, first of all i want to say thank you for the tips, i bought a premade blade Is a Palio Master 2 with great rotation and speed, if u know it can u tell me if is a good racket ?
I haven't used it myself but have heard good reports about it as a pre-made bat.
that accent
Which is it? Canada? Irish?
Australian
Hello, it would be great to know whether thickness of rubber matter and and if yes how it affects the performance.
For the same type of table tennis rubber, the thicker the sponge then the faster the rubber will be with less control.
*Hello guys. The BEST way to choose equips is to buy the most expensive setup out there and if it does not suit your level, buy the 2nd most expensive gear. Work your way down until you find the best setup.*
Thats just wasting money XD
Which pre-made bat do you recommend for an intermediate player 🤔
hey _voidz_
friendship 729 fx is a cheap and out of the age rubber. it's out of the 70's or 80's. Nevertheless the top sheet (rubber) is of good and long lasting quality, especially if your playing outside. For learning it is not good, because of the sponge.
You can get now 729 fx lightning oder super soft, with a lot better sponge to practice the technics. in your case I would recommend the lightning with a thicker sponge, that you used with the regular or old fx, which aren't much more expensive.
Jeff Plumb's smile was sooo adorable at 2:14!!!
Thanks :)
Cheers,
Jeff.
Thanks for sharing this! I've watched this 2nd time. One thing not mentioned here is the thickness of the rubber, although it's mentioned elsewhere. My question is what is the "optimal" thickness and if both sides have same or different thickness and if so what is your recommendation for both sides? Roman
Roman Adar Again, it really is personal preference. For the pre-made bats you don't get a choice but for your first custom bat I'd say 2mm.
Cheers,
Jeff.
PingSkills I greatly appreciate it. Roman
Can we get an update for this video? still has some relavent info, but would really like to see options for the different levels of play. Also would love to see a slightly cheaper option in your store. Not quite at the "practice every day to become a competitor" level just yet, but would like a paddle that isn't just the one sitting idly by that is crap. Looking to spend 20-30$ on one though. Any suggestions?
Hi I have problems on returning shots and controlling the ball what do u recommend me?
Francisco Collazo peel the rubber off of the paddle and use the paddle with the foam that was under the rubber before
I have been playing table tennis for long and know the basics can I use the pre made racket "Palio Master 2"
I haven't used that bat but I have heard that it is good for developing your game. What bat are you using at the moment.
PingSkills GKI Spintech
Then the palio master 2 would seem OK but you may consider moving to your first custom bat where you buy the blade and rubbers separately and when the rubbers wear out you replace them and keep the blade. A good all round blade with something like Mark V or Sriver would be a good example of this. It would be more expensive than the Palio but it will also be better quality too.
Hi PingSkills,
I just started out playing Table Tennis, I can say I'm still on a beginner stage since I only know the basic but we have this tournament for fun in our workplace. And so, I decided to purchase a Butterfly TBC 301. I just want to know your opinion if this is an Ok racket for a beginner?
Jubert Guzman Good luck at the tournament! I haven't used this before but Butterfly is a good brand so I think it will be fine for you as a starting bat. Have you had a chance to play with it yet?
Not yet, I just had it ordered and it does not arrive yet. It was years since I played Table Tennis and I was glad our office had a table installed so we can play often now. I got to say I learned a lot from your videos.
Jubert Guzman I'm glad you've found our videos helpful. I'm sure you'll enjoy the bat. When you get it let me know how it is.
Hi PingSkills, just got my new Butterfly TBC 301 bat. I kind of don't like it because I think it does not suit my playing style. It has low spin on it but more on a control side I guess... What odd is that it's rubber is glossy instead of this mat finish (I don't think if it's normal or not).
P.S. Can you suggest a good beginner bat for me?
Jubert Guzman We recommend the PingSkills Rook which you can find on the PingSkills website. We aren't really equipment experts though. We just recommend a few bats on our site that we know are good but there are literally hundreds of good options.
I'm just getting into this great sport and have been playing for about a month everyday, i've just ordered my table for home and was wondering if anyone could link me to a good pre-made bat that would allow me to put spin on my shots and have some degree of control
Thanks
Hi xXInFeRnO2012,
The PingSkills Rook from our website is a good option :)
Is the Schildkröt Jade bat any good?
Some Questions 1. what are the black and red sides for, any considerations around them ? 2. for a Custom one, does paddle wood needs to get replaced like rubber obviously does and how does one come to know about it ?.
The black and red sides are so your opponent can tell what rubber you are hitting the ball with. This is only important if you use different rubbers. So if you have the same rubber on both sides it doesn't affect anything. It's just the rules that you need them.
As for the blade, it will last a very long time. Alois used one of his for 20 years!
Cheers,
Jeff.
Is apex company bat a good choice?
I haven't used it myself. I don't think it is a major table tennis brand like Stiga, Butterfly, Donic etc.
Hello, Jeff and Alois.
I consider myself a pretty good player but I only have experience playing with the pimple bats. I now want to purchase my first pre-made rubber bat for a fairly advanced player like myself. I've been browsing around and noticed three elements on the spec sheets of a few bats. They are: control, spin, and speed. What do each of these things mean and which are best suited to which playing styles? I use the shakehand hold and consider myself an attacking player, by the way.
Cheers.
+Swiizzey The ratings aren't very useful because they aren't standard. The manufacturer can make up whatever they like for these ratings. If you've only ever used a pimple bat you'll find a big difference when going to an inverted rubber. We recommend the PingSkills Rook as a good first pre-made bat. There are of course lots of good options out there. It's important to not get something too fast to start with so you can learn to play a full stroke. You do need something though that can generate some good spin as table tennis is a game of spin.
+PingSkills Thanks!
Hi PingSkills, I am an all round player, and I have selected a Tibhar Stratus Power Wood. Now the question is the rubber. I want
1. An offensive low spin high speed high control rubber on the Backhand
2. An offensive high speed high spin medium control rubber on the forehand.
I have selected the Yasaka Mark V as my backhand. Other choices are Butterfly Tackiness.
For my Forehand I have selected a Tibhar Aurus. Other choices are Tibhar Genius or Donic Gold/Platinum.
For my style of play what rubbers do you suggest?
We aren't really equipment experts. The rubbers you have listed sound like they would work well for you.
Thinking of replacing my 2 original bats, with the much better rook bats, coudnt you just replace the rubbers on the rook bat, when they finally wear out?
Thanks, great channel!
Yes, you can replace the rubbers on the rook bat when they wear out. The rubbers are glued on with a strong glue so you do need to be careful when taking the old ones off.
my bumper design is a plastic surface and a rubber underneath, basically 2 things before the wood. and the side are not even or fit at wood edge, making it hard to gain control on side practicing.
What kind of rubber makes youre stroke faster (on the custom blades)?
On the custom blade, is there a sponge between the rubber and the wood?
Really like youre channel!!
+daniel cadena garcia The inverted rubbers or "normal" rubbers have a sponge which can vary in thickness. There are hundreds of different types of rubber but we recommend a few on the PingSkills website.
Hey I would suggest to make a video of unique shots that can be practiced and perfected and then used in a game!
Good suggestion. We have a list of the most common on our website which does include some unique ones like the sidespin forehand topspin.
I remember the first bat i used was andzrej grubba all+ blade with two sriver fx´s on it. That bat was very good to begin with
Yes, that sounds like a good bat :)
I don't know if this has already been commented already or not, but I don't think you gave hardbat play its fair credit. Maybe I missed it in one of your videos or sometime during this one, but hardbat is a respectable type of play, I think. People new to Table Tennis shouldn't dismiss hardbat bats just because they aren't the standard.
Interesting point. There is the World Championships of Ping Pong where only hard bats are allowed and it certainly is great viewing. I really enjoy watching skilled hard bat players battling it out. It really is a different game if you only use hard bats.
Wow that's a quick reply. Im amazed. I currently own Donic waldner 800 and play 15-30 mins in office that to 2-3 days a week
+Sahib Matharu You caught me at a good time :)
It sounds like a perfect bat for that. The rubbers will lose grip over time though and need to be replaced. That's why as players join table tennis clubs and play even more often they tend to go for a custom bat.
Do you find it good and are you able to get some good spin on your serves and some topspin on your forehand?
I pretty satisfied with the results. I get good spins while service, however i find it difficult to produce topspin in forehand considering my tenure with sports is not much. The bat is great for the money i paid.
+Sahib Matharu Excellent. See if you can get someone in the office to help you practice the forehand topspin. The main thing is to get the start and finish positions correct. Watch our video on the forehand topspin (you can find it on the PingSkills website under Lessons -> Strokes & Techniques). If you get those right the rest of the stroke will start to fall into place. Good luck!
for all of those starting to begin playing table tennis. one of the most important things is, that you find a bat that suits you right. that means a bat with a handle that fits to your hands and technics. small hands small handle, large hands thicker handle, and whether straight, konkav or anatomic the one that suits you right ! : )
really thnx sir....will the carbon shot blade be ok
+Pritesh Mathur I haven't tried that before. It does sound like a fast blade. Some players like that but I preferred an all round blade. It really is a personal choice. If you think it's good then that is what matters.