As a mother, can confirm that final information/advice. I will use this going forward. Early postpartum was the worst, especially when asked at my appointments “have you had any thoughts about hurting your baby?” I had “intrusive thoughts” and I knew there was no intention behind them, so I lied and said no, because what would happen if I said yes? It is hard to explain, because truly they don’t feel like your own thoughts but you also feel like the worst person alive when they occur. Really awful, so thank you for that.
It happens to men who are responsible for other living things too. It was explained to me over a decade ago in a very different way, as basically hey this is a deeply built in genetic reminder that great harm can come to something that you love very dearly, and it actually serves as a reminder to care for them. That's a very different description than the one that was given here, and I don't know which one is more correct, but the fact is, this phenomenon is very real. You shouldn't feel like a bad person simply because something like that enters your head to begin with. Also congrats on being a mother.
So did I but I think it was from terror of accidentally hurting him. I was so relieved when he became a sturdy little guy. Good decision not to say anything!
@ It was a special occasion. So of course I brought it out. Pete and Stormy brought up the study in question that inspired that 4chan meme so I felt compelled to use it.
If you haven't listened to it yet, check out Stormy's 3 part series on consciousness with Space Age Maximalist. I don't know why my first comment on the topic got sent to the youtube void realms, but I'm commenting it again for posterity. Hopefully this one won't get the same treatment.
Cor! This is an excellent podcast subject. Listening to this and I immediately was turned in thought to back when I discovered the work of Jerry Marzinsky: his evidence collated in doing Psychotherapy work with Paranoid Schizophrenics in Mental Hospitals, and especially in Prisons - pertaining to what he discovered vis-a-vis the "voices" his patients where hearing actually are. The consistent patterns and behaviours he recorded over decades of speaking with multiple different patients, in different locations.
"everyone thinks hermeticism is some spooky religion, but really its a framework for using dichotomies to be a sorcerer" -- stormy, while calling people idiots.
Psychedelics pilled title. Half joking here, I initially wrote that as bait. But to build on it: a friend of mine recently got into that sort of thing and it’s pretty frustrating to talk to him about philosophy and what’s going on in the world, like he just wants to detach from everything and hope for some sort of global Buddha-nature awakening. Totally unrealistic and naive. That said, I think it still deserves mention given a title like this. Those things can really show you some immense depths to reality. It probably lead to my belief in God.
@@Raycloud listen to his 3 part series on consciousness with Space Age Maximalist. Stormy is kind of like a Christian Mysticist Moldbug, with his communication style being heavy in allegory and weaving digressions, but also similar to Moldbug, if you can ride the tiger and parse what's being said, it is incredibly enlightening.
As somebody with zero experience with any of that sort of stuff, how do these spiritual experiences compare? Like do LSD and other drugs, the Hemi-Sync tapes and other special sounds, or special types of meditation all produce the same types of spiritual experiences or do they relate to each other in some coherent way? How do these mechanistically produced spiritual experiences compare to Christian spirituality through liturgy, prayer, or Bible study?
The issue with psychadellics is that they keep working for a lot lomger than you're completely out of it for. So if you're re-upping regularly then the initial novelty and shock doesmt wear off. I advise against it, lest you attract the attention of something out there.
@@fenrisunbound8891His style is a little frustrating, specifically his oration. I listen intently to his appearances on the show here but I do wish he worked on eliminating unnecessary pauses and the "revelatory style" of speaking and found a way to make his cadence more gripping. This isn't necessarily a personal criticism of him but something I just expect happens on recordings. That combined with his referential and esoteric approach to these discussions can make it quite challenging to follow. By contrast I can listen to T777 for hours. Pete also is a good orator. Perhaps Stormy will grow on me, though. Secondarily, I can't imagine taking pyschadelics. That seems like a recipe for disaster. Perspective shift can happen with hard thought and physical experience alone, you don't need drugs of that sort, too much potential to fry the brain or dissociate to dangerous levels. Edit: After listening to this episode fully I can't really look at this discussion as anything but pseudoscientific mysticism. Uncompelling.
Prescience is real. I have experienced a few episodes which can only be explained by it. Most have occurred in dreams, but I've had an instance of waking prescience in which the image of something very specific (not something you'd see every day let's just say) that I would soon see popped into my head spontaneously. I have had very vivid visions "packaged" for me in dreams that I believe were meant to reassure me about my future, showing me the vision that God has for my life. But these things are not for us to peer too deeply into or pursue. That's opening the gateway to dark spiritual powers. When they occur to you without your effort, take them as a gift from God.
I was in private school but was taken to a public school for tests. I remember some of the other kids there being oddballs - something I’d call autistic now. Vivid memories of this but never knew what it was.
@briteboy79 yeah, well, in the 5th grade, they gave me an individual test in a small room by a file cabinet. I very much doubt it was an intelligence test, if ya know what I mean.
Ein Gedanke kommt, wann er will, und nicht, wann ich will. I might not have gotten the quote exactly, but, many many days spent ruminating on this specific notion. I mostly feel at peace about it now. It truly haunted me as a young man though.
Dude this was the scary pod cast I have ever listened to . I used to think stormy was just cringe. I found a new respect for you and your guest. This was a great help to me . I feel less insane. However I am definitely more concerned about the world. This show made 0 sense and a lot of sense . I hope you guys do this again. Very cool .
Rudolf Steiner very clearly stated in the first part of the 20th century that there would be increasing numbers of "people" where a sentient/emotional component (“soul”) would exist but have no higher Ego (i.e., incorporated spiritual individuality) - actually present - (what is being termed ‘soul’ in this discussion). Such ‘persons’ - he indicated - would tend toward criminality and diminished mental capacity.
19:30 this is so true - they think ideas come from them. Like when people say there’s no meaning to life, that «you just have to make your own meaning». Really, dude? You think *you* can *create* meaning? No. There’s meaning alright, but you are not the creator. We can have a philosophical conversation about all of us being part of the whole (ie part of nature, even part of God), but none of us are God in that way. Which isn’t necessarily even what they mean to say, because both new agers and atheists say these things, but it is what they would logically have to claim.
Pete, your anecdote of meditation was shocking and horrifying. I do mild meditation not so much for spiritual reasons, but to "reset" my mind, especially after an exhaustive work day. I never thought it could make one susceptible to attack.
I'm curious about it too. I was in a program like it but it was called something else. I remember we focused a crazy amount of time on learning Spanish, geography, language arts, and the news. This was at a public school. Looking back it almost seems like something to get certain kids ready for an intelligence career down the road.
Great episode! I believe that the highest realm of the spiritual world is levitation. It's spiritual but can also be manipulated/imposed. Gosh, I could go into this subject since it was one of the first things that I researched when the internet came out. Also, when St Terese of Avila and St John of the Cross met up, after Mass they would levitate. For the outside world they have various meditations they use, as Catholics it's mainly the Rosary and Liturgy of the Hours. When the internet first came out and little was locked down, I 'accidentally' found some files of experiments being done by...
This is the dumbest I've ever felt listening to a podcast (This says more about my rube intellect than the content of this episode). Will definitely give it another listen! That's what I love about Pete's show. You never know what to expect!
After listening to this, I'm just putting this out there, the numbers 3, 33 and 333 have been popping up recently in one way or another, the one that stands out is waking up in the night at 3.33, I'm trying to see the meaning behind it
This episode was a journey. Started by thinking Stormy schizoed out, ended by everything making sense even though it shouldn't. The more details you two mentioned, the more they corralated with both mainstream scientific facts and esoteric stories I heard before. Some of these you didn't mention, but they describe the same thing.
Far be it for me, an Internet nobody, to say this, but Stormy should try and ease people into topics like this one. The beginning of the episode was the thought equivalent of an ice bath.
The theories of what consciousness is and its origin are VERY thin scientifically speaking. I've read everything i could get my hands on too on the topic. It really led me to faith in God, along with a few other things that happened in my life
It’ll be cool to hear more about the qualitative nature of souls. Does Stormy think some souls are just larger than others? How does IQ factor into it?
Reminds me of - we battle not with flesh and blood but power and principalities in high places. 2000yrs old. Still fully believable in Africa. Check out how they believe the world is full of spirits. Very medieval.
I once worked with the son of man who was in the remote viewing program from that movie. His son said his dad was the real deal. His last name was Coward I think.
@@bohemond1054 There are lots of declassified DoD documents on the subject. I think the subject falls into a category of things where your opinion on the topic doesn't matter, the fact that the DoD has written extensively on the subject and believes it is something real that is happening is the more important thing to consider. I don't think the DoD is or was ever staffed with spirit crystal incense vegan hippies.
Conscious or conscience? He was a large jovial man who introduced himself as being educated beyond his intelligence. If there's anything that people claim to have a monopoly on, that's probably it.
I was entered into the gate program when I was in early elementary after a full psych evaluation. Guess I had a batshit IQ when I was a kid. I barely remember anything from the program itself though.
Sleep paralysis is freaky and I can see why people would attribute supernatural explanations to it, but I'm not convinced. Not that I am materialist, mind you.
It happens to me once or twice a year. Every time it has stopped when I began praying for it to stop. One time I decided to experiment and just ride it out to see what would happen, and it kept getting worse until I prayed for it to stop.
Its only happened to me once and it occurred soon after I returned the Church and started becoming closer to God. In the midst of it I heard a voice as if it were right next me say “do not disappoint me.” Then I prayed the Our Father and i snapped out of it. Checked my phone and it was 1 minute away from my alarm to wake up me to go to the local Latin Mass
I've had sleep paralysis before which is why the waking nightmare I had was much more disturbing. I knew it wasn't SP so know it wasn't that. I'm lapsed Catholic but it was very demonic. I also had a dream featuring a meeting with a powerful elite figure[you've heard of him] two weeks before he died. I hadn't bothered or read about elites in a long while so the timing weirded me out, as usually dreams feature things you'd recently been thinking. I sort of hope it's just my brain....
I was in TAG too... Then I was in another program later in Junior High called STARS. I have tried to look up what that program was all about but could not find it
He considers it derivative (from Greek / Egyptian Papyri, which was translated by skinner). Listen to him on space age maximalist for more, especially the third piece.
I've believed this for basically my whole life. I call the people without souls shadow people, and I consider them to be little more than window dressing.
Esoteric schizo posting is funny, but it reeks of fart huffing. Waste of brain power to make simple things like existence and God unnecessarily complicated. Really hope this doesn’t become a serious part of modern nationalist/right wing dialogue.
The supernatural is very real. Most of this kind of thing only has efficacy because we are God's imagers (in his image.) It is important to remember Christ is King. Curiosity beyond God's plan is literally sin. Pull our brothers back from the edge where we can.
Remembering the divine and the spiritual is fine. And I very much would like, purely out of intellectual curiousity, to get a detailed and "material", trustworthy view of what these programs comprised, exactly. But as you say, much of this bleeds into facebook-boomer revelations tier posting, a kind of televangelism for anons who have hobbyist interests in "conspiracy entertainment" and get lost along the way. I still like Stormy, though. I enjoyed listening here, but people have to keep clear eyes.
“Science is stupid but I have all this evidence and experiments a mountain high to prove I’m right that homosexual Italian esotericists are right about it all, and I can prove this but I won’t but trust me I’ve funded this, but no just like any third rate Indian guru I’m not going to prove it that would be materialistic but I could prove it if I wanted to” Jesus I’m off this train you guys suck.
It's interesting that Stormy states that they hate us. Most of the ones I've encountered are playful, even jovial. Others have been indifferent, not really caring that I was present. I have encountered two that were hostile. One was overtly malevolent, manifesting as an infant with an open maw for a head. The other was in the form of an old man in a white robe. His eyes were full of pain as if he'd suffered a millennium of torment. He grabbed me and I began to choke. "LOOK AT ME!" he scowled. I repeated those words not in any earthly language, in voice not my own, not even human. It was deep and guttural, almost too low to register. It woke my wife who was sleeping next to me. She was afraid and told me to go sleep in our other bedroom.
@@Vingul Yes, they were completely amused that I'd discovered them. That I had, unwittingly or no, stumbled into a game they were playing and become an active participant. Remember Arcades? Imagine if you were in one and you were playing your favorite game. You'd been playing it and it was fun yet no one else was there, but then an acquaintance shows up and starts playing with you. You see they're enjoying it and the game becomes infinitely more enjoyable.
As a mother, can confirm that final information/advice. I will use this going forward.
Early postpartum was the worst, especially when asked at my appointments “have you had any thoughts about hurting your baby?” I had “intrusive thoughts” and I knew there was no intention behind them, so I lied and said no, because what would happen if I said yes? It is hard to explain, because truly they don’t feel like your own thoughts but you also feel like the worst person alive when they occur. Really awful, so thank you for that.
It happens to men who are responsible for other living things too. It was explained to me over a decade ago in a very different way, as basically hey this is a deeply built in genetic reminder that great harm can come to something that you love very dearly, and it actually serves as a reminder to care for them. That's a very different description than the one that was given here, and I don't know which one is more correct, but the fact is, this phenomenon is very real. You shouldn't feel like a bad person simply because something like that enters your head to begin with.
Also congrats on being a mother.
So did I but I think it was from terror of accidentally hurting him. I was so relieved when he became a sturdy little guy.
Good decision not to say anything!
For the last time! I’m not hungry!! I DID have breakfast this morning!!!
That meme is so played out.
@ It was a special occasion. So of course I brought it out. Pete and Stormy brought up the study in question that inspired that 4chan meme so I felt compelled to use it.
Been a listener to pq for a couple years. My absolute favorite episode to date..
If you haven't listened to it yet, check out Stormy's 3 part series on consciousness with Space Age Maximalist. I don't know why my first comment on the topic got sent to the youtube void realms, but I'm commenting it again for posterity. Hopefully this one won't get the same treatment.
@fenrisunbound8891 where's the best place to find that? TH-cam and rumble are giving me nothing
@@cyclezack it's on substack under the name Jungle Bunker Telemetric Funk
@@cyclezack Whenever I say it, youtube removes the comment for some reason, it's on the sub of stacks
@@fenrisunbound8891 i also found it on spotify under "Jungle Bunker Telemetric Funk"
Some real Art Bell vibes with this episode. Love it!
This was the wrong episode to watch before going to sleep.
Cor! This is an excellent podcast subject. Listening to this and I immediately was turned in thought to back when I discovered the work of Jerry Marzinsky: his evidence collated in doing Psychotherapy work with Paranoid Schizophrenics in Mental Hospitals, and especially in Prisons - pertaining to what he discovered vis-a-vis the "voices" his patients where hearing actually are. The consistent patterns and behaviours he recorded over decades of speaking with multiple different patients, in different locations.
I’ll second this Jerry Marzinsky’s work is extremely interesting for anyone who hasn’t looked into him yet.
Hi Geezer, What consistent, observable patterns does he describe, briefly?
So glad i listened to this during my morning meditation. I really needed to hear this today.
"everyone thinks hermeticism is some spooky religion, but really its a framework for using dichotomies to be a sorcerer" -- stormy, while calling people idiots.
Stormy is what James Lindsay accuses Auron of being lmao
Psychedelics pilled title.
Half joking here, I initially wrote that as bait. But to build on it: a friend of mine recently got into that sort of thing and it’s pretty frustrating to talk to him about philosophy and what’s going on in the world, like he just wants to detach from everything and hope for some sort of global Buddha-nature awakening. Totally unrealistic and naive.
That said, I think it still deserves mention given a title like this. Those things can really show you some immense depths to reality. It probably lead to my belief in God.
I feel like he goes 90% of the way to making a point and then stops and pivots to some other topic and starts over.
@@Raycloud listen to his 3 part series on consciousness with Space Age Maximalist. Stormy is kind of like a Christian Mysticist Moldbug, with his communication style being heavy in allegory and weaving digressions, but also similar to Moldbug, if you can ride the tiger and parse what's being said, it is incredibly enlightening.
As somebody with zero experience with any of that sort of stuff, how do these spiritual experiences compare? Like do LSD and other drugs, the Hemi-Sync tapes and other special sounds, or special types of meditation all produce the same types of spiritual experiences or do they relate to each other in some coherent way? How do these mechanistically produced spiritual experiences compare to Christian spirituality through liturgy, prayer, or Bible study?
The issue with psychadellics is that they keep working for a lot lomger than you're completely out of it for.
So if you're re-upping regularly then the initial novelty and shock doesmt wear off.
I advise against it, lest you attract the attention of something out there.
@@fenrisunbound8891His style is a little frustrating, specifically his oration. I listen intently to his appearances on the show here but I do wish he worked on eliminating unnecessary pauses and the "revelatory style" of speaking and found a way to make his cadence more gripping. This isn't necessarily a personal criticism of him but something I just expect happens on recordings. That combined with his referential and esoteric approach to these discussions can make it quite challenging to follow.
By contrast I can listen to T777 for hours. Pete also is a good orator. Perhaps Stormy will grow on me, though.
Secondarily, I can't imagine taking pyschadelics. That seems like a recipe for disaster. Perspective shift can happen with hard thought and physical experience alone, you don't need drugs of that sort, too much potential to fry the brain or dissociate to dangerous levels.
Edit: After listening to this episode fully I can't really look at this discussion as anything but pseudoscientific mysticism. Uncompelling.
Prescience is real. I have experienced a few episodes which can only be explained by it. Most have occurred in dreams, but I've had an instance of waking prescience in which the image of something very specific (not something you'd see every day let's just say) that I would soon see popped into my head spontaneously. I have had very vivid visions "packaged" for me in dreams that I believe were meant to reassure me about my future, showing me the vision that God has for my life.
But these things are not for us to peer too deeply into or pursue. That's opening the gateway to dark spiritual powers. When they occur to you without your effort, take them as a gift from God.
I was in private school but was taken to a public school for tests. I remember some of the other kids there being oddballs - something I’d call autistic now. Vivid memories of this but never knew what it was.
@briteboy79 yeah, well, in the 5th grade, they gave me an individual test in a small room by a file cabinet. I very much doubt it was an intelligence test, if ya know what I mean.
Ein Gedanke kommt, wann er will, und nicht, wann ich will.
I might not have gotten the quote exactly, but, many many days spent ruminating on this specific notion. I mostly feel at peace about it now. It truly haunted me as a young man though.
I was in the GATE program in the late 80's. We were taught basic Russian and did specialized problem solving exercises.
Every school was different. We were taught Spanish at my school.
Dude this was the scary pod cast I have ever listened to .
I used to think stormy was just cringe.
I found a new respect for you and your guest.
This was a great help to me . I feel less insane. However I am definitely more concerned about the world.
This show made 0 sense and a lot of sense . I hope you guys do this again. Very cool .
sounds like you've had a paradigm shift. Congrats.
Powerful ep guys. I’ve been somewhat circling around this over topic for awhile now. God bless
Based samurai. What was his name?
27:00-28:00 One of best minutes of any podcast.
Rudolf Steiner very clearly stated in the first part of the 20th century that there would be increasing numbers of "people" where a sentient/emotional component (“soul”) would exist but have no higher Ego (i.e., incorporated spiritual individuality) - actually present - (what is being termed ‘soul’ in this discussion). Such ‘persons’ - he indicated - would tend toward criminality and diminished mental capacity.
O😮
spooky but valuable information. Thanks, Pete and Stormy
Go on lads!
Stormy Waters is a great guest
19:30 this is so true - they think ideas come from them. Like when people say there’s no meaning to life, that «you just have to make your own meaning». Really, dude? You think *you* can *create* meaning? No. There’s meaning alright, but you are not the creator. We can have a philosophical conversation about all of us being part of the whole (ie part of nature, even part of God), but none of us are God in that way. Which isn’t necessarily even what they mean to say, because both new agers and atheists say these things, but it is what they would logically have to claim.
Great show, very interesting stuff
I was in Gate; I don't remember much of anything about because it was uninteresting and I didn't want to be there
Pete, your anecdote of meditation was shocking and horrifying. I do mild meditation not so much for spiritual reasons, but to "reset" my mind, especially after an exhaustive work day. I never thought it could make one susceptible to attack.
Almost everything stormy talked about I’ve experienced personally - especially the obe stuff. And yeah, white, male, green eyes, intj, gate kid.
I need more of this topic please especially the GATE program
I really would have preferred the discussion be about the actual nature of that program, or of Remote Viewing, rather than this spiritual discussion.
I'm curious about it too. I was in a program like it but it was called something else. I remember we focused a crazy amount of time on learning Spanish, geography, language arts, and the news. This was at a public school. Looking back it almost seems like something to get certain kids ready for an intelligence career down the road.
Great episode! I believe that the highest realm of the spiritual world is levitation. It's spiritual but can also be manipulated/imposed. Gosh, I could go into this subject since it was one of the first things that I researched when the internet came out. Also, when St Terese of Avila and St John of the Cross met up, after Mass they would levitate.
For the outside world they have various meditations they use, as Catholics it's mainly the Rosary and Liturgy of the Hours.
When the internet first came out and little was locked down, I 'accidentally' found some files of experiments being done by...
I think stormy’s cocky New England elite laugh is triggering some of the audience lol
This is the dumbest I've ever felt listening to a podcast (This says more about my rube intellect than the content of this episode). Will definitely give it another listen!
That's what I love about Pete's show. You never know what to expect!
After listening to this, I'm just putting this out there, the numbers 3, 33 and 333 have been popping up recently in one way or another, the one that stands out is waking up in the night at 3.33, I'm trying to see the meaning behind it
Hello.
This episode was a journey. Started by thinking Stormy schizoed out, ended by everything making sense even though it shouldn't. The more details you two mentioned, the more they corralated with both mainstream scientific facts and esoteric stories I heard before. Some of these you didn't mention, but they describe the same thing.
Far be it for me, an Internet nobody, to say this, but Stormy should try and ease people into topics like this one. The beginning of the episode was the thought equivalent of an ice bath.
Stormy Indeed
G-d can perform creation any way He wishes, even making it appear like some sort of evolutionary unfolding.
It’s spelled God*
Isn’t it funny, how they insist that God must abide by the laws of nature before he created them.
The theories of what consciousness is and its origin are VERY thin scientifically speaking. I've read everything i could get my hands on too on the topic. It really led me to faith in God, along with a few other things that happened in my life
Doctor Sleep is worth checking out. The death scene of one of the "eaters" is incredible.
Michael Crichton[author of Jurassic Park] was a big time sceptic who recounts an experience of astral projection in his book Travels.
It’ll be cool to hear more about the qualitative nature of souls. Does Stormy think some souls are just larger than others? How does IQ factor into it?
The notion of what "human" even means is itself almost entirely borne of Greco Roman tradition
Rise of the Quack Right
Stormy is tedious. He doesn’t have much to say and takes too long to say it.
Alex Jones is way better.
AJ won't look at the synagogue though fella.
@@Viz-Jaqtaar Get a better measure than just "da jooz."
Its possible for a coin to land on its edge. Then you get the Kwisatz Haderach.
It's like I tuned in to a Formscape video or something.
It's like everything is connected or something.
Reminds me of - we battle not with flesh and blood but power and principalities in high places. 2000yrs old.
Still fully believable in Africa.
Check out how they believe the world is full of spirits.
Very medieval.
Nice.
Terry Davis is that you? 😮 Good show.
I once worked with the son of man who was in the remote viewing program from that movie. His son said his dad was the real deal. His last name was Coward I think.
Minsky's "The Society of Mind". An alternative to sky fairies speaking to you.
Is this “close your eyes and be anywhere” thing believable? Am I going crazy?
idk. close your eyes and pretend you run the planet lol. lmk how that works
@@bohemond1054 There are lots of declassified DoD documents on the subject. I think the subject falls into a category of things where your opinion on the topic doesn't matter, the fact that the DoD has written extensively on the subject and believes it is something real that is happening is the more important thing to consider. I don't think the DoD is or was ever staffed with spirit crystal incense vegan hippies.
Nothing so far…
This guy is supposedly a fund investor, where’s he get this info?
Your mileage may vary.
Fascinating....
1:53:50 was just about to say this is why prayer works and Stormy hammered it home
What are you talking about I did eat breakfast this morning? Why do you keep asking???
Hell. Yes.
'Cynocephali' and its Greek/Latin origins. A search algorithm.
Conscious or conscience? He was a large jovial man who introduced himself as being educated beyond his intelligence. If there's anything that people claim to have a monopoly on, that's probably it.
I was entered into the gate program when I was in early elementary after a full psych evaluation. Guess I had a batshit IQ when I was a kid. I barely remember anything from the program itself though.
That's because they made you swish fluoride to calcify your pineal gland.
@@JARBOOGIE2 i don't really remember it either. So we were being mk ultra-ed?
Sleep paralysis is freaky and I can see why people would attribute supernatural explanations to it, but I'm not convinced. Not that I am materialist, mind you.
It happens to me once or twice a year. Every time it has stopped when I began praying for it to stop. One time I decided to experiment and just ride it out to see what would happen, and it kept getting worse until I prayed for it to stop.
Its only happened to me once and it occurred soon after I returned the Church and started becoming closer to God. In the midst of it I heard a voice as if it were right next me say “do not disappoint me.” Then I prayed the Our Father and i snapped out of it. Checked my phone and it was 1 minute away from my alarm to wake up me to go to the local Latin Mass
I've had sleep paralysis before which is why the waking nightmare I had was much more disturbing. I knew it wasn't SP so know it wasn't that. I'm lapsed Catholic but it was very demonic.
I also had a dream featuring a meeting with a powerful elite figure[you've heard of him] two weeks before he died. I hadn't bothered or read about elites in a long while so the timing weirded me out, as usually dreams feature things you'd recently been thinking. I sort of hope it's just my brain....
I was in a TAG program in the 90s, but don't remember the pink juice... that sounds really weird.
Same
The fluoride swish wasn't always pink.
@@sj-nj6yh it was a fluoride swish? We're they trying to dampen pineal activity or something?
@@colindilworth4223 yes.
I was in TAG too... Then I was in another program later in Junior High called STARS. I have tried to look up what that program was all about but could not find it
2:02:06 💎🎯
I was a GATE kid. Just went down that rabbit hole last night, and everything lines up.
Just no tiny hat art student gf
If remote viewing is real, I want in on it. Sign me up.
Have you had a lucid dream?
Biggest blackpill is closing my eyes, clearing my thoughts, and having nothing come. Tfw NPC.
@Stormy Waters: What do you think about Kabbalah?
He considers it derivative (from Greek / Egyptian Papyri, which was translated by skinner). Listen to him on space age maximalist for more, especially the third piece.
@@hammerain93 Thanks, I'll check it out.
This guest is so incredibly long-winded and it's unfortunate because the topic is interesting.
Its all a participatory act.
I've believed this for basically my whole life. I call the people without souls shadow people, and I consider them to be little more than window dressing.
I can do it, and it’s terrifying.
Esoteric schizo posting is funny, but it reeks of fart huffing. Waste of brain power to make simple things like existence and God unnecessarily complicated. Really hope this doesn’t become a serious part of modern nationalist/right wing dialogue.
As soon as he said his whole audience had the same story I realized we were getting funny.
Say you're an NPC without saying it.
Christ is King, miss me with the demonic Hindu astral projection nonsense. Next he’ll be advocating spirit cooking and paoti to meet some elves.
The supernatural is very real. Most of this kind of thing only has efficacy because we are God's imagers (in his image.) It is important to remember Christ is King. Curiosity beyond God's plan is literally sin. Pull our brothers back from the edge where we can.
Remembering the divine and the spiritual is fine. And I very much would like, purely out of intellectual curiousity, to get a detailed and "material", trustworthy view of what these programs comprised, exactly. But as you say, much of this bleeds into facebook-boomer revelations tier posting, a kind of televangelism for anons who have hobbyist interests in "conspiracy entertainment" and get lost along the way.
I still like Stormy, though. I enjoyed listening here, but people have to keep clear eyes.
Consciousness is the way the universe recognizes it’s own existence.
“Science is stupid but I have all this evidence and experiments a mountain high to prove I’m right that homosexual Italian esotericists are right about it all, and I can prove this but I won’t but trust me I’ve funded this, but no just like any third rate Indian guru I’m not going to prove it that would be materialistic but I could prove it if I wanted to”
Jesus I’m off this train you guys suck.
You seriously think your thoughts come from someone else? This is ridiculous woo nonsense.
🖤⚠️🖤 BLACK KINGS 🖤⚠️🖤
It's interesting that Stormy states that they hate us. Most of the ones I've encountered are playful, even jovial. Others have been indifferent, not really caring that I was present. I have encountered two that were hostile. One was overtly malevolent, manifesting as an infant with an open maw for a head. The other was in the form of an old man in a white robe. His eyes were full of pain as if he'd suffered a millennium of torment. He grabbed me and I began to choke. "LOOK AT ME!" he scowled. I repeated those words not in any earthly language, in voice not my own, not even human. It was deep and guttural, almost too low to register. It woke my wife who was sleeping next to me. She was afraid and told me to go sleep in our other bedroom.
I can assure you that they hate you. They want to drag you down with them.
What were the playful, jovial ones like? Are you talking about sleep paralysis here?
@@Vingul Yes, they were completely amused that I'd discovered them. That I had, unwittingly or no, stumbled into a game they were playing and become an active participant. Remember Arcades? Imagine if you were in one and you were playing your favorite game. You'd been playing it and it was fun yet no one else was there, but then an acquaintance shows up and starts playing with you. You see they're enjoying it and the game becomes infinitely more enjoyable.