so... there's 30+ hours of material from the second From A Basement... sessions that we will never hear, i'm told. he'd planned a double album for it as you may know and it's said quite a darker one than the one we know. now, it's a pretty dark record already imo (Coast To Coast man those words), but i guess in addition to music, a lot of the recordings are him talking about his life and stuff, opening up on things. so what else i'm told is that out of respect for family and friends, they will never release this stuff. this makes me sorry because i can handle it i think and i simply adore the man, but understandable. in any case, wow is there a lot of unreleased stuff and it's all so great. we are very fortunate indeed
@@jekylwhispy No belongings to any person should ever be sold for false, monetary gain. Especially if there's personal shit written or said in it that was never mean to be publicized. They literally sold Cobain's journal and reprinted it as if were just a *BOOK* Tell me that's not fucked. Like, Jesus Christ how desperate can you be to "make a film", Love. Where you'll exploit the parts of him talking about how much he "Love"s you and not any of the parts where he PROBABLY shat on her. Least a bit? Idk. Idk much but i know she's a little bit issue RIDDEN. I don't blame her. Kinda stating how i feel. If someone ever did anything like that to me i'd haunt them in a *REALLY* stupid and confusing way.
Love the addiction, When I first heard Kings Crossing I lost a nights sleep no kidding it wouldn't stop playing in my head. That's happened to me three times all Elliott songs.
Here's what I'm hearing: Obvious now you've got nowhere special to go But I know you will, before too long Always there standing there staring at a hole in a road Like it was a place somebody would go Confusion is king, the talk of your town Well, harder than it seems Knowing anyone But you'll get along You spoke softer than anybody I've ever heard Softer than the velvet in your hair Turning back black mocking me black as a bird I live in a cage and I can take you there Confusion is king, the talk of your town Still, when you look at me Is this what you see Always looking down Whenever we're hanging out I don't know how to behave Am I only strange, are you upset? Animals painted in the dark on the walls of the cave Pictures that I wish you'd just forget Confusion is king, the talk of your town I don't know if you hear Any meaning of the word Maybe just a sound Little things trigger big bombs you can wipe out a state Maybe I destroy what makes you sad But for you there's so many mines buried that you never relay 'Till your body's numb and it's all too bad the rest goes the same I think
onto something maybe. i'll have to keep listening and closer another time. it's hard to say for sure...but i always feel like he's saying 'hole in the robe' which makes sense to me in a certain way i really love so that's probably a lot of why i think that
This is great, but the final chorus does have different words than the others. I can’t make them out, but I hear something like: Confusion is king, the talk of the town I don’t know my mistake yet Don’t know how to help you I’ll just be the road I don’t know what he’s feeling I don’t know who you are / how to help I’ll just be the road. I don’t think this is exactly right. But that’s kind of what it sounds like.
Chris Andrew absolutely. I've been writing songs for awhile & im nowhere near as prolific as Elliott, but a lot of things get left. an Eyedea line again comes to mind. "And in my brain's a junk drawer I'll never organize. The first to come and last to leave will never be immortalized." another man with tremendous communication skills.
Elliott's Lyrics were phenomenal. When I first started to listening to him I was thinking wow this is the best thing I have ever heard and what was all that other crap I was listening to that I thought was good.
Chris Andrew , me as well. he has been my favorite since found him. I really feel like nothing really comes close to what he does, not the way he does it. so straightforward, unflinching, but at the same time its so mysterious and magical. so much unsaid. I've been learning his songs the last year a lot. im finally at the point where I can barely do it (I used to just say fuck it on those difficult rhythms), but I notice that learning what hes doing doesn't diminish his songs. so beailutifully, immaculately written. and now all these rarities im finding on yt. this song, for one. wow. that in mind, I don't care who hears it. Guns N Roses is a stupid stupid empty band. just to choose one. I like stupid music.. but what Elliott does is to me God work.
Wow, great comment, I very much agree. It also gave me goosebumps to read this because I listen to this song quite frequently, and often for hours afterwards, I end up with the song "Atlantis" stuck in my head. How uncanny.
Obvious now, you got nowhere Special to go, but I know you will before too long Always there, standing there Staring at a hole in the road like it was a place somebody’d go Confusion is king, the talk of your town With the Hollywood sign Everybody knows that you cover mine You spoke softer than anybody I ever heard Softer than the velvet in your hair Tying back black, mocking me, black as a bird I live in a cage, and I could take you there Confusion is king, the talk of your town Streets I'm living in with the pain This is what you see, always looking down When we're hanging out, I don't know how to behave When I’m on the stage, are you upset Animals painted in the dark on the walls of the cave Pictures that I wish you’d just forget Confusion is king, the talk of your town I don't know if you hear any meaning of the word Maybe just the sound Little things trigger big bombs, you can wipe out a state And maybe I destroy what makes you sad But for you, there’s so many miles buried that you never relate Until your body's numb and it’s all too bad Confusion is king, the talk of the town I don't know how to speak it I don't know how to help you, I'll just be around I don't know how to speak I don't know how to help I'll just be around
I really get freaked out every time I see this picture at 1:24. Just the angle, the hair, IDK, I get frozen - chilled to the bone feeling like I am looking at myself in some past experience I can't seem to remember. Go ahead, take a look - see!
+bacardi119 will try ta answer yr question - background / explanation is first paragraph, if you don't care about that though then jus skip ta 2nd paragraph for my attempt at an answer. incase ydon't know - after figure 8, elliott + jon brion went to the studio to work on elliott's next album together. they had at least half an album's worth of material not only written but also fully recorded & good to go - but then they had a big bust up over elliott's drug / alcohol intake and elliott burned all of the recordings they'd done, started the album from the beginning again with all new songs. the new songs ended up (with a few exceptions) together under the name 'from a basement on the hill' my guess - though it is just that, a guess - is that this mighta been one of the songs intended for the lost album that was originally going to follow figure 8. the backup singer in this sounds like jon brion & this was recorded in summer 2000 i think, so that's my guess.
+Finn Keaney I guess you're right. Elliott said he had scrapped everything he had done with Brion at some point. It is sad though. I would like to listen to every single song he wrote. I wonder if Rossi plans to release a soundtrack out of heaven adores you.
bacardi119 if memory serves, there are soundtrack plans. though i could be getting that mixed up with montage of heck ... am not sure. i know that at the premiere he said that he wanted to but it would all lean on how well the film did in termsa $$. agree on it being a shame though - this is a great song & that was a really great period interms of the direction he was taking his music. that from those sessions alone there's the better part of an album of finished stuff that we'll never hear is .... a total drag.
+Finn Keaney he performed this song in 2000. That means ir may have been written for figure 8. He said he had recorded 25 songs for figure 8.So maybe this ones is one of those that were left out. I would like to listen to the other songs.
+Finn Keaney a while algo I wrote an e-mail to the producers of Heaven Adores You. They wrote back and said they were looking forward to a soundtrack. They said that if there was a chance to release one, they would gladly do so. You're right, there is a bunch of songs he wrote that we will probably never have a chance to listen to.
***** "Confusion" doesn't appear on the Grand Mal: Studio Rarities compilation. There's yet to be any confirmation that he recorded a studio version. It does appear on Confusion: Live Unreleased Songs.
+TheKeenGuy mm there's a couple songs of his which are pretty much essential in my opinion & which are missing from grand mal. is a little odd - as some of the stuff on later CDs i doubt i'll ever bother to listen to - but at least the first four or five CDs are absolutely brilliant from start to finish. and the later ones do have some great stuff on - ''i figured you out'' with mary lou lord is a lovely song hell though - i don't mind too much that there are some holes in grand mal. ain't no fun when it's made too easy for ya :)
@@piggsquigg983 You like "I Figured You Out" with M L Lord? I waited on listening to that song because I wanted something to look forward to. I guess my expectations must have been too high? It just didn't do it for me. I don't care for her voice. Compared to Elliott's, it was grating, didn't fit with him. Of course her voice is fine, just not for me. I would have preferred hearing more of a female alto, at least an alto 1.
Harry Mitchell -MUSIC- it gets better. it can always get worse is an important to learn. but I sure hope you feel better now. I bet you do. Elliott really can be that eye in the storm when things get real hard. he's gotten me through a lot, too.
@@jekylwhispy Why do you have a strike-through through the MUSIC part of the name Harry Mitchell -MUSIC-? Also, do you really believe this comment was sincere and actually in this person's current reality at that time? Obviously it's feasible, but you know, just wondering. If it was Harry''s reality, I hope 3 years later finds him doing much better.
@@Dani92670 i seriously dont know. I doubt it was intentional... Im inclined to believe people when they talk about rough time they are going through and this did seem like a little genuine bleed. I realize folks get addicted to their own misery and emotional manipulation is certainly a thing, but life is awful painful. If i can stretch out a hand, im happy to do that. You never know, but you cant start down the path toward assuming and telling people how they feel.
It's heart breaking to have to accept this may be the only version of this song - at least the only version we will get to hear. I still periodically look for another version when I think of it & will continue to do so.
@@Dani92670 There are now a couple of other live renditions of this song, this is still the best and clearest one though... we have yet to find a studio version which may or may not exist
Thank you ohhhhh soooo very much for answering the question I was just getting ready to post, knowing it would be unlikely I'd get an answer - at least not any time soon. I love this song & this is the only copy of it I've found & have seen this video too many times now to continue to be driven mad by trying to remember where I have seen this woman & who in the heck she is.
I think one line in the lyrics in the discription is incorrect. Little things trigger big bombs You can wipe out a state And not Little things trigger big problems You can wipe out a stain
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at this point i don't think he's dead cuz when ever i think i've heard it all... it just gets better and better.
Yes!🧡
I always think I've heard everything he's done.
One usually thinks so, and then BAM. Another song. I don't know how he does it...
@@maxinepeuschelcussigh3331 You guys know his work from the Heatmiser (band) era?
so... there's 30+ hours of material from the second From A Basement... sessions that we will never hear, i'm told. he'd planned a double album for it as you may know and it's said quite a darker one than the one we know. now, it's a pretty dark record already imo (Coast To Coast man those words), but i guess in addition to music, a lot of the recordings are him talking about his life and stuff, opening up on things. so what else i'm told is that out of respect for family and friends, they will never release this stuff. this makes me sorry because i can handle it i think and i simply adore the man, but understandable. in any case, wow is there a lot of unreleased stuff and it's all so great. we are very fortunate indeed
'Ow long 'ave we been on this *rock*
@@jekylwhispy No belongings to any person should ever be sold for false, monetary gain. Especially if there's personal shit written or said in it that was never mean to be publicized. They literally sold Cobain's journal and reprinted it as if were just a *BOOK*
Tell me that's not fucked.
Like, Jesus Christ how desperate can you be to "make a film", Love. Where you'll exploit the parts of him talking about how much he "Love"s you and not any of the parts where he PROBABLY shat on her. Least a bit? Idk.
Idk much but i know she's a little bit issue RIDDEN. I don't blame her. Kinda stating how i feel. If someone ever did anything like that to me i'd haunt them in a *REALLY* stupid and confusing way.
never heard this one, hope we get the studio version one day; though i doubt it
‘Whenever we’re hanging out, I don’t know how to behave.’
What a lyric, I have this exact feeling whenever I’m around something I like.
Be yourself.
@@petersmith9530 which self?
Brings me back to good days, neither of us knew how to behave, and it wasn't a problem... wish I could hug her now
Same here... even with my own family, I'm an outcast
To me, this is his best song. It says everything. So bittersweet.
WOW just when I think I've heard it all! That is truly one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. So sweet!
i have listened to this like 20 times in a row
Love the addiction, When I first heard Kings Crossing I lost a nights sleep no kidding it wouldn't stop playing in my head. That's happened to me three times all Elliott songs.
this is a good thing to do
Same here! Just when I thought I'd listened to everything I find this gem.
You have good taste in music my friend.
His discography is insane
Here's what I'm hearing:
Obvious now you've got nowhere special to go
But I know you will, before too long
Always there standing there staring at a hole in a road
Like it was a place somebody would go
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
Well, harder than it seems
Knowing anyone
But you'll get along
You spoke softer than anybody I've ever heard
Softer than the velvet in your hair
Turning back black mocking me black as a bird
I live in a cage and I can take you there
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
Still, when you look at me
Is this what you see
Always looking down
Whenever we're hanging out I don't know how to behave
Am I only strange, are you upset?
Animals painted in the dark on the walls of the cave
Pictures that I wish you'd just forget
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
I don't know if you hear
Any meaning of the word
Maybe just a sound
Little things trigger big bombs you can wipe out a state
Maybe I destroy what makes you sad
But for you there's so many mines buried that you never relay
'Till your body's numb and it's all too bad
the rest goes the same I think
Yeah I think youre right about the correction on the last verse
His throwaway songs perfect poetry anyone else could only dream of creating
onto something maybe. i'll have to keep listening and closer another time. it's hard to say for sure...but i always feel like he's saying 'hole in the robe' which makes sense to me in a certain way i really love so that's probably a lot of why i think that
This is great, but the final chorus does have different words than the others. I can’t make them out, but I hear something like:
Confusion is king, the talk of the town
I don’t know my mistake yet
Don’t know how to help you
I’ll just be the road
I don’t know what he’s feeling
I don’t know who you are / how to help
I’ll just be the road.
I don’t think this is exactly right. But that’s kind of what it sounds like.
I think he says “Baby I destroy what makes you sad”
Elliott Smith is King
Stephen Docherty haha! good to see you too! 🙂
@@MikeBohlmusic That's funny to see that you 2 know each other from somewhere. Small world.
@@Dani92670 probably shared the song to one another
love the backing vocals
Like some lullaby. very sweet
Just think there are undoubtedly many he never recorded at all.
+Chris Andrew Geez that is a heartbreaking thought. Songs he didn't think were cool enough and scrapped. Probably.
EuphoniaPooch Yeah no doubt. You know there had to be some gems discarded.
Chris Andrew absolutely. I've been writing songs for awhile & im nowhere near as prolific as Elliott, but a lot of things get left.
an Eyedea line again comes to mind.
"And in my brain's a junk drawer I'll never organize. The first to come and last to leave will never be immortalized."
another man with tremendous communication skills.
Elliott's Lyrics were phenomenal. When I first started to listening to him I was thinking wow this is the best thing I have ever heard and what was all that other crap I was listening to that I thought was good.
Chris Andrew , me as well. he has been my favorite since found him. I really feel like nothing really comes close to what he does, not the way he does it. so straightforward, unflinching, but at the same time its so mysterious and magical. so much unsaid. I've been learning his songs the last year a lot. im finally at the point where I can barely do it (I used to just say fuck it on those difficult rhythms), but I notice that learning what hes doing doesn't diminish his songs. so beailutifully, immaculately written.
and now all these rarities im finding on yt. this song, for one. wow. that in mind, I don't care who hears it. Guns N Roses is a stupid stupid empty band. just to choose one. I like stupid music.. but what Elliott does is to me God work.
"Obvious now you got nowhere special to go" is what my ears pick up.
Same
Can you tell me the rest lol
Elliott Smith and Tupac still in the studio
Lol
this sounds so beatles-y
thank you so much for sharing this.!!! you are a godsend.
my reason for living
This is amazing. Been a fan for years... Never heard this. Thank you so so much for uploading
This is awesome. Sounds like The Beatles + Atlantis by Donovan + Elliott's own sound all mixed together.
Wow, great comment, I very much agree. It also gave me goosebumps to read this because I listen to this song quite frequently, and often for hours afterwards, I end up with the song "Atlantis" stuck in my head. How uncanny.
Very very beautiful song
Great sound quality! Never heard it so well.
simply beautiful.........
Obvious now, you got nowhere
Special to go, but I know you will before too long
Always there, standing there
Staring at a hole in the road like it was a place somebody’d go
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
With the Hollywood sign
Everybody knows that you cover mine
You spoke softer than anybody I ever heard
Softer than the velvet in your hair
Tying back black, mocking me, black as a bird
I live in a cage, and I could take you there
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
Streets I'm living in with the pain
This is what you see, always looking down
When we're hanging out, I don't know how to behave
When I’m on the stage, are you upset
Animals painted in the dark on the walls of the cave
Pictures that I wish you’d just forget
Confusion is king, the talk of your town
I don't know if you hear any meaning of the word
Maybe just the sound
Little things trigger big bombs, you can wipe out a state
And maybe I destroy what makes you sad
But for you, there’s so many miles buried that you never relate
Until your body's numb and it’s all too bad
Confusion is king, the talk of the town
I don't know how to speak it
I don't know how to help you, I'll just be around
I don't know how to speak
I don't know how to help
I'll just be around
Great job on the lyrics!
Vic Demise Thank you kindly!
amo!!
I really get freaked out every time I see this picture at 1:24. Just the angle, the hair, IDK, I get frozen - chilled to the bone feeling like I am looking at myself in some past experience I can't seem to remember. Go ahead, take a look - see!
I'm really glad that you took the moment to be frozen by that part of the video! Most people I think were surprised by the sheer randomness of it.
@@JBlackoutwhos she?
Nvm shes kate winslet, as i learn via comments here
'Living with the pain is what you see: always looking down'
I don't understand why he never recorded this wonderful song.
+bacardi119 will try ta answer yr question - background / explanation is first paragraph, if you don't care about that though then jus skip ta 2nd paragraph for my attempt at an answer.
incase ydon't know - after figure 8, elliott + jon brion went to the studio to work on elliott's next album together. they had at least half an album's worth of material not only written but also fully recorded & good to go - but then they had a big bust up over elliott's drug / alcohol intake and elliott burned all of the recordings they'd done, started the album from the beginning again with all new songs. the new songs ended up (with a few exceptions) together under the name 'from a basement on the hill'
my guess - though it is just that, a guess - is that this mighta been one of the songs intended for the lost album that was originally going to follow figure 8. the backup singer in this sounds like jon brion & this was recorded in summer 2000 i think, so that's my guess.
+Finn Keaney I guess you're right. Elliott said he had scrapped everything he had done with Brion at some point. It is sad though. I would like to listen to every single song he wrote. I wonder if Rossi plans to release a soundtrack out of heaven adores you.
bacardi119 if memory serves, there are soundtrack plans. though i could be getting that mixed up with montage of heck ... am not sure. i know that at the premiere he said that he wanted to but it would all lean on how well the film did in termsa $$.
agree on it being a shame though - this is a great song & that was a really great period interms of the direction he was taking his music. that from those sessions alone there's the better part of an album of finished stuff that we'll never hear is .... a total drag.
+Finn Keaney he performed this song in 2000. That means ir may have been written for figure 8. He said he had recorded 25 songs for figure 8.So maybe this ones is one of those that were left out. I would like to listen to the other songs.
+Finn Keaney a while algo I wrote an e-mail to the producers of Heaven Adores You. They wrote back and said they were looking forward to a soundtrack. They said that if there was a chance to release one, they would gladly do so. You're right, there is a bunch of songs he wrote that we will probably never have a chance to listen to.
I lik eliot smid
F**king beautiful. How can I get copies of these rare tracks? Elliott! We miss you!
***** "Confusion" doesn't appear on the Grand Mal: Studio Rarities compilation. There's yet to be any confirmation that he recorded a studio version. It does appear on Confusion: Live Unreleased Songs.
+TheKeenGuy mm there's a couple songs of his which are pretty much essential in my opinion & which are missing from grand mal. is a little odd - as some of the stuff on later CDs i doubt i'll ever bother to listen to - but at least the first four or five CDs are absolutely brilliant from start to finish. and the later ones do have some great stuff on - ''i figured you out'' with mary lou lord is a lovely song
hell though - i don't mind too much that there are some holes in grand mal. ain't no fun when it's made too easy for ya :)
We'll miss you forever
@@piggsquigg983 You like "I Figured You Out" with M L Lord? I waited on listening to that song because I wanted something to look forward to. I guess my expectations must have been too high? It just didn't do it for me. I don't care for her voice. Compared to Elliott's, it was grating, didn't fit with him. Of course her voice is fine, just not for me. I would have preferred hearing more of a female alto, at least an alto 1.
TheKeenGuy I remember you from Sweet Addy. Those were the days.
I know it sounds wierd, but it kind of reminds me of ''Mr. Bojangles'' by Sammy Davis Jr.
Anyone else get a ragtime feel from this song?
genius. thanks for sharing. probably one lyric is '...on the walls of a cave' rather than cage. cages have bars not walls!
RollerShutters Updated! Thanks for letting me know
Jamie Blackout Thanks for this upload I love this song. I'm not sure but I'm hearing after design,"knowing in your mind, that you're color blind".
why is a picture of rose from the titanic here at 1:20 - I just finally noticed this lol
Grandma killed herself dad called me a cockroach and a hurricane is heading to my doorstep. Thanks Elliott for the calm
Harry Mitchell -MUSIC- it gets better. it can always get worse is an important to learn. but I sure hope you feel better now. I bet you do.
Elliott really can be that eye in the storm when things get real hard. he's gotten me through a lot, too.
@@jekylwhispy Why do you have a strike-through through the MUSIC part of the name Harry Mitchell -MUSIC-? Also, do you really believe this comment was sincere and actually in this person's current reality at that time? Obviously it's feasible, but you know, just wondering. If it was Harry''s reality, I hope 3 years later finds him doing much better.
@@Dani92670 i seriously dont know. I doubt it was intentional... Im inclined to believe people when they talk about rough time they are going through and this did seem like a little genuine bleed. I realize folks get addicted to their own misery and emotional manipulation is certainly a thing, but life is awful painful. If i can stretch out a hand, im happy to do that. You never know, but you cant start down the path toward assuming and telling people how they feel.
This is one of my favorite Elliott songs. Does anyone know of a better quality or studio version?
It's heart breaking to have to accept this may be the only version of this song - at least the only version we will get to hear. I still periodically look for another version when I think of it & will continue to do so.
@@Dani92670 There are now a couple of other live renditions of this song, this is still the best and clearest one though... we have yet to find a studio version which may or may not exist
Beginning sounds like the krusty krab music
20 ans d'amour entre sa musique et moi, elle n'a pas pris de rides, moi j'en ai pris 2 ou 3 au front.
A Lost Genious
1:20 That's Kate Winslet in Titanic ... What the hell ? x)
I was so confused trying to remember where I've seen this picture
Thank you ohhhhh soooo very much for answering the question I was just getting ready to post, knowing it would be unlikely I'd get an answer - at least not any time soon. I love this song & this is the only copy of it I've found & have seen this video too many times now to continue to be driven mad by trying to remember where I have seen this woman & who in the heck she is.
IHS devotion to divine mercy
Turn on my block
Mockin me
Black as a bird
I live in a cage
I can take you there
(Finally got what he said there)
Now if only you could tell me what that means, exactly.
clever
🧡🧡🧡
I cant even remember lmao
I think one line in the lyrics in the discription is incorrect.
Little things trigger big bombs
You can wipe out a state
And not
Little things trigger big problems
You can wipe out a stain
Where did you find this version?. It sounds better than the one I have.
random Kate Winslet photo? hahaha
i think i did
un'artista dimenticato...
Anyone know when this was written?
its a funny story but i forgot
👁🎧👁
nothing.
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