What Are You So Afraid Of? | Self-Help and NXIVM
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- The Self-Help industry has existed for over a century and seems to be selling the same product in slightly different packaging. What shaped this industry and what happens when you take it too far?
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Module 1 Self-Help
6:56 Module 2 Tony Robbins
17:11 Module 3 Keith Raniere
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Bro, you still black.
Well I guess a good sleep for tomorrow's interview has been postponed
Where'd you get that notebook?
Ok
No more Nebula? :-(
Edit: So I see the video is sponsored by Nebula, so it’s in the picture, but I don’t see this video on Nebula yet.
"If you're reading it in a book written by someone else, that's not self-help. That's help." ~George Carlin
What is the opposite of self-help?....Self-help finished?....finally improved, graduated?
@@alaalfa8839 The opposite of self help is society
Lol, great quote
That's the author which self helping not you.
Georgie
Rather impressive that Keith Raniere taught himself quantum physics 9 years before he taught himself the math needed to understand it.
He's special.
👀
He's so intelligent he doesn't need math to understand it
I mean, reading this very, *very* charitably, which is 500km from what it deserves and 500km more, it could mean that he noticed the duality of wave-particle in the subatomic level and intuitively derived *everything* of Quantum Physics out of that. And him "learning" College math could just be "oh this is the description of X"
Again, *very* charitable reading of him as a non-physician software engineer, but an interesting alternate history idea IMO. What *if* we found the waveness of particles first, instead of it's pointness? What if an alien civilization did?
@@sponge1234ify the real problem with this is that the math is what quantum physics is. It’s like gravity- everyone knew that it existed before, things obviously fell down, but because newton mathematically described it he gets to “invent” it. I have a very basic intuition of quantum mechanics, the basic rules without the maths, but anyone can get that really easily- it’s the understanding the math and the actual nitty-gritty of it that matters.
Whoever wrote the captions for this video and included "obnoxiously upbeat yet bland instrumental music" for the transition music, you are a legend
One of my favorite captions is during one episode of The Handmaid’s Tale where the caption says [Pretentious Classical Music plays]
@@michaelgoldstein8516 everything about that show is pretentious, and I say that as a huge fan of Margaret Atwood and also a viewer of the series. Elizabeth Moss has kind of been pigeonholed into that type of role, and I try to not hold it against her - she is great in other works.
@@michaelgoldstein8516 _[SADLY GO-KARTS]_
"música instrumental desagradablemente optimista pero insulsa" en español :D
LOL
Nothing says "I'm trustworthy" quite like saying "abuse is just a social construct".
and talking about how the age of consent is illiberal etc.
Abuse IS a social construct . Crying 😢is a social construct. Prison is a social construct. It's a social construct because we are social creatures and know abuse is bad because of our social construct.
@@oxnard_audit9923 crying is not a social construct? It's a natural reaction to pain and spans across numerous lifeforms. Regardless, did you watch the video? This "social construct" statement was used to confuse consent and assumes consent by default at a certain age, which is completely incorrect. Age plays a part in being able to make an informed decision, but you should never assume consent at any age.
@@oxnard_audit9923 that’s not how social constructs work. We know abuse is bad from the the way it affects people. This is stuff we measure with tools too. Not just emotional because abuse changes the way the brain works.
Prison is a system made by humans. They drum up that justice stuff for money. The history of it is far to vast to go through in a comment.
But trying to boil everything down to a social constructs is kind of just drinking the coolaod.
How much the term "social construct" can be thrown around like this is a testament to how misunderstood and kinda vague the concept actually is
As a mental health therapist, I want to clarify that if you do want to have the confidence to ask that girl out, work on your career goals, or just tidy up around the house, you can do that with a therapist, too. And insurance will actually cover it. :)
*Might cover some of it, if you have insurance before, during, and after the billing cycle, if the therapist is in network, exists near enough for you to reach them, will take you as a patient, and will schedule you during your non-work hours.
@@neurotransmissions But isn't tele-therapy typically less effective? Mind you, I'm unsure, but that's what I've been informed.
@@BirdThatEatsPrometheussLiver Surprisingly, it is not! It’s just as effective as face-to-face therapy and most folks find it easier to attend their sessions due to the convenience. That said, it’s not perfect for everyone. It’s not ideal for super high-risk clients if there are safety concerns and some people prefer that in-person experience. But in terms of treatment effectiveness, it’s equivalent.
"And insurance will actually cover it"
::cries in Marketplace insurance plan::
Lol I'm too ugly to have a girlfriend
Ah yes, the next installment of the Knowing Better Cinematic Universe
Has anyone made the Knowing Better Timeline article on Wikipedia yet?
from my knowledge kb isn't even on wikipedia.
“The one where we all become KB’s alternate future timeline girlfriends”
Dont understand why everyone thinks KB is the worst human alive
@@SlashinatorZ who the fuck is everyone? A small minority may think that, not anywhere close to "everyone"
The way this dude was able to keep the lie of being celibate while having almost 10 girlfriends at one time, all of whom believed they were his only girlfriend, is a despicably admirable level of either logistical juggling or psychological manipulation
i guess if all you do is have sex with and abuse them it's much easier than having an actual affair. i imagine a lot of his communications with the group were designed to be interpretable as secret messages "just for meee", the way bands song about some anonymous man or woman and then insane fans believe its about them.
The key to happiness: just be a psychopath.
Not admirable at all. I’d use the word impressive, not admirable.
It can be both. He's very good at being an absolutely horrible person
I wouldn’t even be able to do that with just TWO women, let alone 10!
Wait....how did Keith Rainere teach himself quantum physics when he was 4 but not learn college math until he was 13??
I study physics and you definitely need college math to learn quantum physics, it's kind of a prerequisite.
oh that's easy... he lied
He had such an understanding of the space time continuum, that he could learn topics in non-chronological order.
I guess his parents got him a cat, which may or may not have survived his care. But serisouly: I had a good chuckle when I heard that, too. If anything it proves how little he understands of physics. It's beautiful.
Oh maybe, i dont know, he lied, perhaps?
@@carlossaraiva8213 Whaaat? Noooo, he wouldn't.
This is honestly the wildest episode of KB yet. This shit is weirder than Scientology, Objectivism, or the standard MLMs. Saying “Keith Raniere is one strange dude” is such a monumental understatement, it’s crazy. Thanks for covering this topic that I knew absolutely nothing about before.
Wow, I hadn't even considered that this was based so heavily on previous topics. That's either incredible forethought or excellent improvisation.
@@nathancarter8239 He also mentioned the Stanford Prison Experiment and, I think, a couple of other things that he’s done whole videos (or devoted large sections of videos) about. This episode certainly builds upon concepts he’s already covered in-depth in several others, so if you haven’t seen all his previous videos yet, they help so much with context. And you should watch them anyway because Knowing Better just makes such great content. I would donate to his Patreon if I weren’t the archetypical broke college student.
Not to mention the weird feeling you get when you realize your parents were consuming the media those cults were putting out... glad they never got any deeper...
the only strange thing about objectivism is how so few people like it eventhough so many (at least americans and older people who like to read best selling novels) were exposed to it. funnily enough, i've never heard of those weirdos from the video in my objectivist community.
The shriller fear coming out of this video is the fact that this is just being developed Out of Scientology. Which means that any day by now we could expected another such excessive control freaks coming up with the same idea and refine the practices…..
“Often times the screaming of abuse is abuse itself, it’s a made up human concept”
This Keith guy really said if you report rape or domestic abuse that you’re an abusive person
It's worse. He claims that if you tell a child they were abused, YOU are the abuser. The child didn't think they were a victim until you came along.
@@KnowingBetter It's bizarre how the more you learn about him the more you become aware of how abusive he was. Bizarre as in "you already knew he was a POS, but somehow he is SHITTIER than last you checked."
@@KnowingBetter I wouldnt mind to be in one room with the guy to teach him what abuse is, in my country the age of consent is 12, but in my eyes bloody disgusting, in the past it was 16 but yeah islam happend 🤮
bait is obvious^
I would use that logic to continually rabbit punch him. Since I don't see it as an attack, if he were to say I'm attacking him, he would actually be the one attacking me, making him my attacker. And if that were so, I'd have no choice but to defend myself against his attacks, by jumping on his ass like a spider monkey. To stop his attacks.
I am NOT used to hearing my name this frequently.
EDIT: oh no every context was bad
RIP
Now you know how Karen feels.
Imagine having my name right now...
@@cerberus50caldawg She really needs to find that manager.
@@brandongurley8361 LET'S GO....YOU! 😄
My big beef with the idea of Self-help is the underlining assumption that people's problems aren't outside of their control.
An example base on anecdotal experience:
I was extreamly depressed for most of my life, starting when I was around 7 unto my late 20s. I am Autistic, and the first time I became self-aware enough to understand what that entailed was when my older brother would constantly mock me for being disabled. That along with the constant physical abuse, he always made me feel really helpless and alone. Ironically he and my mom later found out that he was also Autistic when he entered his 20s.
My parents were very overbearing people who had unrealistic expectations that were never stated, so navigating life in the same space as them was always like walking on eggshells. Least to say my family was constantly punching down at me, like my disability was something I could just "overcome" and that I simply "wasn't trying hard enough". Between that, an education system that could not sufficiantly support me, and no social circles to help let off some steam, life was really stressful. To the point where I started developing a large grey patch of hair on the back of my head.
Theres more to that, like how my step dad made life almost inhospitable after he converted to being a jehovah's witness, but I'll leave that out to prevent over-complicating this comment.
Now nearing the present, I met a woman at University who is now my wife. She is one of the most empathetic and intelligent people I have ever met, the only person who really "gets me". She is the only person I have ever felt confortable around. We moved in together shortly after meeting, and around 6 months after she points out that the grey patch on the back of my head disappeared, as soon as she mentioned that it all clicked. My lack of self-confidence, the depression, the stress, it was all caused by the enviornment I was raised in. I was living through it for so long that I didn't have the tools to identify the core problem, it was my family.
All of this wasn't a problem I could of just rationalized away like the Self-Help industry advertises by thinking self-affirming thoughts, it was an issue directly related to my enviornment, and the relationships I had. As soon as I distanced myself from them, I became far happier.
I absolutely love your story.
But remember it took positive steps to get you where you are .On your own steam.
That's what self help material is trying to do.
But all approaches don't help everyone.
This really points out how a lot of what people need is *the appropriate supports* to better their lives. So many people in difficult situations are there because of the circumstances they grew up in, and the only way to lift people out of those is to offer supports that help people out of those situations so they can begin healing. We have so many social problems that are ruining people's lives yet our society tends to act as though failure is the fault of the individual, despite it being blatantly obvious that we are not in a meritocracy.
yeah self-help doesn't do jack shit for trauma, just keeps you blaming yourself for everything
I also think a lot of the issue with self-help as books is that they have a hard time with context (which i mean, makes sense, a book writer can't write for every kind of situation ever).
I don't necessarily disagree with what a lot of those books say but because they are so non-specific I have a hard time trusting them. The things they say COULD be useful but I was also in a situation where making huge life choices mattered a lot than trying to meditate, or think optimistically. I'm already a somewhat optimistic person but i also struggle with depression- which feels like a contradiction but if people or situations in your life suck real bad it drags you down a lot.
And obviously I think people should do what works for them. Stuff that does and doesn't work for me isn't going to be the same as everyone else. But I also think self-help as a media and industry does pray on the idea a bit, that if you just read one more book you would just be a bit happier, or would just be a bit of a better person- which I think people with mental health issues can almost treat like an addiction. I forgot the title of the video but there's another video on TH-cam explaining that a common problem people have with self-help media is that its really easy to read a book or watch a video, so some people fall into this loop where the media makes them feel fantastic, but life changes are hard- especially with a lack of support, so it feels like they are stuck. Its at least something to be aware of. I don't think every self-help book is pure evil but there's a chance that some know that people NOT getting better means they stick around buying more books.
I'll also point out that just because advice sounds nice doesn't mean that its what you need to hear. This is super tricky because people like to point out what works for them, and the idea is that you try it and if it doesn't work you can move on. But when books make themselves seem like they know a lot more than you do (intentionally or unintentionally), it starts to feel less like some advice from some stranger and more like advice that really "should" be working, and if it doesn't work YOU did something wrong. I wouldn't say this is ALWAYS the book writers fault but its something that can happen if you sell yourself as someone that knows a lot about something. intentionally or not, you make your words matter a lot more, for better or worse.
im still in contact with my family but i would 100% say that moving away did a lot more than anything else really did. But the idea of doing that wasn't really something i read from many online places, usually it was boiled down to "be positive" which is fine on paper, but i can only focus on my mental health so much when something around it is hurting it. Its like digging a hole while someone shovels dirt back in. You still have a hole, but you're also not getting anywhere.
Do what works for you but also be careful.
@@GwyndolinOwO i have some vague thoughts about the being an optimist with depression and "be positive"... something something toxic positivity and trying to force your emotions to be what you think they should be instead of living in the present reality. something that i definitely still struggle with because of how i was raised.
18:45
>"Learned Quantum physics by age four"
>"Taught himself college math at 13"
That's a bit "sus" as the kids say.
Edit: For some reason this post said "57:05" before.
Amogus
Sussy baka
@@blu_nades Bussy saka?
He clearly never learned order of operations
I wonder how KB feels reading this reply chain
Honey wake up, new knowing better post
I agree with this comment, if I had a honey I'd wake them up.
I agree with this comment. If my honey watched this channel I would wake her up
These two replies are very....similar🤔🤔
Why post so late at night, I'm already too drunk to concentrate. Maybe a little warning next time? I'll Comment now, rehydrate in the morning, watch after coffee.
Plot twist, she died of cancer while waiting for the next video and you are actually having a mental break down in an insane asylum
Hey I'm a mental health professional. I just wanted to point out that at 14:50 you talk about how not everyone needs to see a psychiatrist and life coaches may work for them. There are a lot of people trained in mental health that do not have MDs or even PhDs. Social workers, family and marriage therapists, and professional counselors are just a few of the many licensed professionals out there who can provide therapy sans medication if the client so pleases. Frankly, they would be worth more in time and money, and many work at sliding scale clinics.
Hard agree! My mental health has improved so much seeing my long-term counsellor than I ever did seeing psychologists over the years. The psychs were more interested in diagnosing without necessarily giving me practical suggestions that would actually help me. I'm sure it was fun for them to diagnose and explain that diagnosis to me logically but it didn't help me much.
A LOT of people just need someone to talk thru stuff at
Life Coach has the ring of "I couldn't get licensed as a therapist" to it
Alt text: Therapist is to Life Coach as Doctor is to Healiologist.
@@rhythmandblues_alibi that’s what psychiatrists do. They’re mds and typically not therapists
@@daintycaked I should have clarified and said psychologists.
My psych teacher showed us that "What the Bleep Do We Know?" video in class. I grew up in a fairly wealthy city. My parents got pulled into a "prosperity gospel" cult when I was three or four, and we didn't leave until I was eighteen. This is all uncomfortably familiar.
I'm really sorry that happened to you. People don't realize what a mind f*ck that kind of twistedness is and how lasting the effects are.
Oh dear 😓 I remember my dad was super into "What the bleep do we know?" And tried to get me to watch it. I remember it being weird and making no sense and I got bored and fell asleep 😅
I think the idea behind "anyone could fall for this" means actually that anyone could fall for a scam, but the scam you could fall for varies from person to person. Some people are attracted to promises of money, some, to promises of acceptance, others want to have the promise of the afterlife, etc. What would make you get scammed varies wildly from person to person, but every person has a weakness, and that's dangerous.
I think the idea is that people who fall for cults aren't, like, innately stupid people who fall for things that are obvious traps to "good people". Which is something I think KB would agree with, if it wasn't phrased the way it was.
Absolutely! I like to think that I'm very aware of scams and can identify them quickly.
But recently I got a call from my daughter crying her eyes out because she had "ran over a girl." She could hardly breath or talk as I tried to get answers from her. She was in sheer panic, and I began to feel as much. While trying to make sense of the situation, some guy who identified himself as police, took the phone from her and started asking me questions, and then... They got her name wrong... I said "who? This is a wrong number," hung up and called my daughter. She was fine at home...
As relieved as I was, that f**ked me up really bad for the rest of that day.
These were scammers that somehow managed to get her voice replicated. I wonder, hadn't they gotten the name wrong, how far into the scam they'd have managed to manipulate me? It's scary to think.
@@alzahir somehow = AI (most probably)
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 Not at all, I don't think her voice was as similar as they remember
@@kevinsundelin8639 no a news organization did a segment on this with an ethical hacker. It’s totally possible and the voice is spot on.
As someone who consumed a lot of self-help in his 20s (most of it garbage), the module animations with the super-generic "uplifting" music are absolute gold 😆👍
Seriously, that music is disturbingly PERFECT 😂
It sounds like a Tantacrul parody
I think most of the self help books taught me I was fine, its just that i was poor and my job sucked
Most of it is pretty good I think. Most people just don't have the patience or the motivation to follow through. People fall into old habits and don't stick with the routines that most authors suggest. That's why people like Jordan Peterson are really good for self help because instead of just reading one book you also can watch through his catalog of videos and his constant stream of fresh lectures etc...
the closed captions are gold - Obnoxious Generic Upbeat Music
I went through a pretty bad depressed period back in highschool. My parents forced me to watch and read a lot of self help programs to help me but everyone boiled down to "believing in yourself". If you get something out it then I'm genuinely happy for you but that pretty much soured my opinion on self help from then on.
I hope you're feeling better now my friend. I didn't have my parents show me self help stuff, but when I was depressed at age 14-16 I really looked up to Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, etc as moral figures and people to base my goals on.
Which while i disagree with them now I don't judge people who like them, but it was harmful for me to look up to these online figures as sort of mentors.
Ah yes, I discovered my depression when I was entering highschool.
My father used to not believe in mental illness.
One time, he bought a me a lot of self-help books to teenagers. Most of them said how having depression was selfish, how you were trying to get attention and how much you needed to mature.
To this day, I don't know if he was trying to help me or if it was his intention to make me feel worse.
@@Angelica-sq9lh I'm very sorry to hear that, when you're depressed you often put yourself down enough, so no need to ontop be told you're selfish, think positive and snap out of it🤯 Hope you've been able to find better help since then. All the best🍀
@@Angelica-sq9lh he was trying to help you why would he knowingly try to harm you by getting you self help books. As for the contents of which I doubt he read the books beforehand
@@Chriscraft-ug3sz We two had and still have... a pretty rocky relationship. And as said beforehand, he didn't believe in mental illness when I discovered my depression. However, we are in a much better ground now and I can see were you are coming from. I also believe he tried to help my in his way.
"Boys have to yield to adults, women and girls."
Did he ... intend to draw a distinction between adults and women?
@fkujakedmyname No, they don't.
Name one who said that.
@@pepi7404 a lot of radical feminists do downplay female on male violence, but generalizing with "feminists always do that" is vastly overstating how much it actually happens.
Basically; yes it does happen, no it's not all feminists only extremists, and your opinions are the results of staying in "echo chambers" or only talking to people who share your opinions on things.
@@thecoolaxolotlnova8523 Ok, but ... like ... who?
I always hear "a lot of radical feminists say that" or "a lot of radical feminists do that" and, when confronted, people utterly fail to name a single one or they show me a tweet made by a man.
@@pepi7404 men can be radical feminists, also I can't name any because I haven't been part of the antifeminist movement in a while and it's not really my focus anymore but it's relatively rare.
@@pepi7404 oh also, most radical feminists aren't really household name celebrities, more like toxic women or sometimes men on Twitter who sort of have their own mini bubble.
*crying with joy at hearing KB say fuck*
After he robbed us of his “wat-da-fuck!” Moment in the immigration video, when he has mad 1/3 of citizens don’t know what the legislative branch is made of
Hearing that dealt massive psychic damage to me
I don't know what says about me but, I didn't even notice until he pointed it out that he said fuck... I wonder how other people were also unfazed...
It completely broke my thought pattern like he said 😅
For me it was more like "that's new, isn't it? Carry on"
Keith: Women aren't inherently loyal
Also Keith: Has dozens of secret girlfriends
Keith's ain't loyal.
That's just typical red pill negging. say something bad about all women, so insecure women will try SUPER HARD to show how they aren't that. Secure women would know that's bullshit, and leave the class, but insecure women will want to prove their loyalty.
I dunno, I gotta hand it to the guy as he isn't overly attractive yet he had quite the success with women. Not condoning anything.
@@briannyob7799 It's a numbers game. For every woman you successfully turn into a cult slave. There are thousands who weren't suckered into it.
Ghost reply!
The part about how the use of the Vanguard title and the silly sashes are actually a strategy to drive out the sensible people is the same strategy used by e-mail scammers. You've probably gotten an e-mail from a Nigerian prince saying you're his long-lost heir and will receive a $50 million inheritance and thought "why do they make these stories so hard to believe? They would get more people if they made the story a little more credible". But it's unbelieveable like that on purpose: they want to filter out anyone who would waste their time in long conversation chains and ultimately not wire them any money. They want to fish in only the extremely gullible and foolish ones, because those are the least likely to waste their time.
Porn ads work the same way. If you write copy for internet porn ads you are specifically coached to include absurdly blatant spelling and grammar errors
Every time a new woman was mentioned I thought “Surely she cannot be another one of Keith’s girlfriends”
Only if she was hot.
after having just listened to the audiobook of scarred by sarah edmond,,, man, all those women,,, and always its either DOS or girlfriend
@@user-rw1ft1sp2e DOS? What do computers have to do with all of this?
....Suddenly you realize that you, too, are one of Keith's girlfriends
Sounds like something JK Rowling would tweet
@@loturzelrestaurant Referring to the top comment, not yours
Even if your are male
I feel like there’s a psychological horror short story to be written here
Even the men
*We are Legion!*
1859 book "Self Help".
"If you own slaves ...free them now. Trust me."
"If you are a slave...run like hell. Preferably to the north. Trust me."
“Preferably past the north and into Canada. Trust me.”
Until you realize the north is one of the most racist places in modern times. Look up upper peninsula and you’ll see what I mean.
@@Revco7 The UP is the south of the north, and historically, and into the present, the northern states are STILL much less racist, although you are right that America as a whole is still pretty damn racist overall.
@@Revco7 Michigan upper peninsula ?
@@stephen2101 Preferably even further than that and go beyond the wall where the free folks live.
I love hearing that someone learned something by an early age, when those who have studied it for decades still do not understand it.
This made me remember the old stoic greentext meme.
>walking home at night
>pass a group of youths
>one of them tells me I dropped my gay card
>I look down for it and realize I’ve been the victim of a practical joke
> I am unmoved, I tell the youth that his provocations are futile because I am a stoic
>he bursts out laughing and says it’s pronounced stow-ic, not stoike
>break down and cry in the street
"Do you really need a pillow that says live, laugh, and love?"
"Yes"
"The answer is no"
You actually need to become Keith’s girlfriend!
I love that commercial!
The “Unlimited Power” with the Palpatine cover… that was great 😂
Wait, you mean that wasn't the real cover? Lame. ;)
Yeah that made my day
🍪
Wait, when did that happen?
"Keith was not polyamorous. He was just a cheater."
THANK YOU!!!! Thank you so much for properly framing polyamory ❤
Second this. Was happy to hear him use the term and properly.
@@rwilson1197 This is true! Cheating also happens in poly relationships.
Much like consent, of course, whats important is awareness in a poly relationship, anyone in the relationship that is unaware of any other members is essentially being cheated on.
@@ikarabout As an asexual monogamy-idealist, I feel like cheating ALWAYS happens in polyamory... the difference is in the presentation.
A punch is a punch in or out of the boxing ring. A scoop and a spoon are the same item with arbitrary distinctions.
There is such a wide gap between your values and my own that I have a very difficult time accepting that you don't just desire to cheat without risk of unpleasant consequences.
Some people use the words interchangeably to subtly communicate that they believe that the concept of polyamory is an infidelitous manipulation. The only reason that Keith isnt polyamorous is because he didnt announce his intention to cheat before doing so.
@@SeekerGoldstone Perhaps you're using too rigid a definition of cheating? The word itself implies some dishonesty or intent to violate the rules of some arrangement. I'm probably not gonna shift your worldview by any degree, but perhaps consider that, if it's deliberated on by consenting adults, there's no real rules violation. Human relationships have always been fluid and nebulous.
I have a career in sales so I'm constantly bombarded by the toxic aspects of "self help". I fully believe in the importance of self development and invest a fair amount of time into dimensions of wellness, EQ, study of philosophy, and behaviourial development in addition to participating in CBT based counseling. I promise though that no matter how many workshops or seminars you attend, how many books you read, how many podcasts you listen to, or how many videos you watch there is no one size fits all answer, there's no magical inherent truth to the universe, and most of the "self help" industry shares similar thought processes to Scientology, MLM's, and conspiracy theory nuts, that is to say, absolutely riddled with cognitive distortions, cognitive bias, cognitive dissonance, and logical fallacies.
That f bomb had exactly the desired effect. I perked up and listened very closely for the next 10 seconds
Same
Me too, but for me, it also had the side effect of absolutely cracking me up for some reason. “A fuckin’ swear word” is just too funny, probably unintentionally.
I actually used to use that at my crummy retail job. People would listen when I said a product was "shit," and dropped it on the floor.
Wow
Me too, I came to the comments to see if anyone else did
My dad was really wrapped up in Landmark. He got to the point where he couldn't hold a conversation anymore without trying to "recruit". When I was around 12 years old I attended a meeting once with him. They blocked the doors with the registration table, not allowing us to leave or even go to the bath room without talking to atleast three people. I was eventually pressured into doing the "Childrens Forum" which was, just, terrible... They withheld food and water for hours until someone had a "break through", which was usually a kid, sitting up on stage while being berated by the lecturer until they broke down into tears. I remember smelling the buffet at the other side of the room just hoping for tears.
Thank you so much for this video. It really put a lot in perspective for me.
Which "Landmark" is that, btw? Is it "Landmark Worldwide"?
I was also brought up in an extremely cultish environment. 'Was taken out of school, and for 6 years instead of lessons I had "self-help" with Jerry Clarke and other idiots from Neways/Modere (an MLM). However, I don't remember Landmark being _that_ extreme. It was definitely cultish, but out of all the idiot crap I had to endure as a kid I thought that Landmark seemed to have some merit - if you didn't take it too far (definitely no locked doors for me).
Wow. Thank goodness the only MLMs my dad got into involved selling products. He probably consumes some of this media, but at least he knows better than to try to foist it on the rest of us.
sorry you had that experience! I guess mine was somewhat similar, but I don’t look back on it bitterly. My whole family was really involved in it for a couple years (just moderately, they eventually all got over jt) and I did the children’s seminar when I was a kid. I remember crying telling my mom I was so bored and didn’t want to stay. I couldn’t stay awake, so at one point the lecturer had me talk to people in the back about if I wanted to be there. I said I did because I didn’t want to cause a scene.
But still… I think I gained from it. The whole bit they do about “if everyone was shy, nothing would get done” impacted me. Also, the “if you have something to say, say it or write a letter” thing has really helped me in my life. I don’t remember their specific lingo for that stuff, but idk I did “get something” out of it. No showy “breakthroughs”, but something.
For sure, the recruiting is creepy and they suck at handling kids.
Forcing people to stay in that shit by blocking exit that alone feels illegal.
@@amylovemyart Right, how is that not kidnapping? I feel it is legally, but maybe nobody reported it? idk
My father constantly reads self help books and watchs their videos then presses them on others, getting offended when you turn him down. You can literally tell when he found a new one because his philosophy, conversation subjects, and mantras all change. Near as I can tell it's on about a 3 month cycle.
Was he raised in a religion, by any chance? I have theorized for years that people who turn away from an organization can't shake faith-based living, so they simply find a new source to have blind faith in.
"Self-Help & Sex-Cults" sounds like the weirdest roleplaying game ever.
the amount of times you said "and was one of keith's girlfriends" was disturbing and hilarious at the same time.
Why even be a cult leader if you can't also be a sex pest?
@@Praisethesunson Right???
It probably also helped he was a concert level penis from an early age apparently.
I would have suggested making a drinking game out of it, but I'm afraid people would give themselves permanent liver damage.
@@timothymclean I'd pass out after the second shot so think I'd be safe there.
The "obnoxiously upbeat yet bland instrumental music" in closed captions, perfectly puts into words what i always felt about this type of music. Thanks KB!
It's amazing how it managed to just make me tune out entirely. I had to mentally remind myself that it was a KnowingBetter video and to actually pay attention instead of filtering bullshit. It's like I've been programmed to not trust stuff like that...which is a bit disconcerting knowing that I've been conditioned at all.
I was surprised by my visceral reaction to it.
It’s like a real estate video for a McMansion.
My dad really bought into NLP and tried making a career of it. Honestly, as shitty as the following divorce and bankruptcy were (I enlisted with the Navy that year), I think it's better that he's back working as an Engineer again. I had no idea how shady NLP's background was.
One of the most pernicious things about self-help is something which looks benign, or even positive, which is the black-and-white thinking. In most cases the message is "You're a loser now, you just need to do X, then you'll be a winner". It's a message which sells X very effectively, but is extremely counter-productive in practice; at the first setback you'll consider yourself a "loser" again, and start hunting for some other magic fix. But you're not a loser; look at things you're already doing well and can build on. And there is no magic wand to improve any particular area of your life, it usually takes sustained effort, adaptability and pushing through setbacks.
This is the first Knowing Better I've had to wait for after blasting through every video on this channel two weeks ago.
Welcome new Knowing Better fan, welcome to the community
I'm pretty sure we all met him like that lol
@@rodrigodelcidq yep, so did I
@@lucyla9947 yeah lol me too
Welcome to the club pal
"Some little children are perfectly happy with it" A person who says this should be arrested on the spot.
What if the "it" was bionicle? Just saying, man.
Along with saying anything like “she’s really an old soul” BS
she's actually an 1000 sextillion years old!!!! 😡😡😡🤬
B-b-b-but she's a 6000 year old neko witch!!!!!
@@TheKing-qz9wd then they should get the wall. ;p
These videos are so freaking good. It is both totally understandable and very sad they release infrequently.
I really apreciate how you dress up and get some background props on the theme of each video, it really shows your personality and that you really care to make quality content
"God never gives you more than you can handle." Said no Holocaust victim ever.
Survivorship bias is not just real. It's common.
Plus the millions of Chinese, Russians, Africans and aboriginals in se Asia.
Well... Not none. Viktor Frankl wrote a book about this. Famously saying "When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves."
My mother uses that line all the time. Its an inside joke between my wife and I now because of her.
that verse is referring to temptations btw
@@blade7506 It’s generally used for hardships/bad luck in my experience. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s been taken out of context by the people who use it that way.
The Tony Robbins ad preceding this video is just… *chef’s kiss
Who?
The Stuff I miss with TH-cam Premium/AdBlockers.
Wow, I didn't get that one, but that is indeed *mwah*.
That "Unlimited Power" cover just had me spittake all over the inside of my car.
Worth it lol!
15:55 that was so perfectly executed, this is why I love this channel
I used to see that guy's ads all over social medias, today I already forget his name.
Holy cow, that F-bomb was the most elegant autological example I have ever seen. I'm going to sign up for your Patreon right now.
Ask Jim to sign up too! I think he might enjoy the content
FUCK!
I just don't have it.
I never, I mean never have had that kind of impact.
...FUCK!!!
nope.
Oh my God. I saw "What the Bleep do we know" There was a scene where indigenous people off the west indies "couldn't see" Columbus' ships that were approaching because they never saw ships like that before. But one smart guy could see the ripples the ships made, and by looking at the ripples he could then see the ships. And once he saw the ships, he could point out the ships to the other people.
It was kindergarten logic. Later in the film some woman became engulfed by some great spirt of knowledge and started talking in a fake voice. It's insane.
I watched it for the laughs when it was new. The disgusting part was how they used nuggets of truth to sucker you in with so many lies and BS.
@@paulgaither I watched it with my father, a nuclear physicist with a strong knowledge of quantum mechanics. Most pissed I think I ever saw him. Note that this was when the movie first came out, and we didn't know the BS it was going to be. It had a lot of good "quantum mechanics is weird" stuff, then hard served into the bull. He was NOT happy.
Yes! My first exposure to that movie was a short clip of one of the more "normal" quantum physics sections I found online. I shared it to my MySpace... I eventually saw the whole movie and was HORRIFIED that I had shared something from it. It was such insane nonsense.
That is exactly the part I can never forget about that movie. It was so fundamentally wrong. When I first saw that movie I was like who the hell believes this BS for an instant.
Don't insult a kindergartners intelligence like that. LOL
Even they know when they are physically seeing something regardless of whether they can understand what it is or not.
hmmm... I think I see... is there something over there???
Nah. I don't think I can comprehend what my eyes are seeing.
Never saw nothing like it before.
Therefor... nope
That's so stupid. LOL
I literally, just as I read this, heard him start talking about it. That is utterly insane timing and I am now very scared.
I first saw Tony Robbins in a TED Talk (online) and was amazed by how strong his "say aye" - "aye" was, working even on me, through the screen...
Thanks for explaining the mechanism!
You probably receive several of these comments every day, but I play your videos on the background regularly because they have an entertaining rythm, and your voice is just soothing. Greetings from Argentina
my biological father's a (failed) motivational speaker, and when i was little he made my brother and i watch a bunch of material by Werner Earhardt and Tony Robbins, so watching this is honestly really surreal for me - idk if that's in a good or bad way, but i appreciate u making this regardless
If the trends continue, by 2030, every person in America, adults and children, will be a life coach.
Or a social media influencer.
I hope so tbh. We should all gather together to make sure our lives are all functioning normally.
or one of keith’s girlfriends
And they shall all be a version of Knowing Better.
That's it. I'm going to be a life coach who teaches people how to feel crappy about their lives and watch youtube videos all day. I should make millions.
Hey Knowing Better!
I have been a subscriber since 4 years ago (when I was a freshman in high school), and I am now a freshman in college studying Aerospace.
Thanks for all the videos you have provided.. trust me when I say they have helped me (even if it is a bit parasocial)
Have been following your channel for years and it keeps getting better. I even find myself rewatching your vids, seriously great stuff. Thank you
56:23 KB just cannonized his intent to move to a better house/apartment/film location.
I moved while making this one. I didn't have a fireplace or garage in that apartment.
@@KnowingBetter Does that mean the timeline is broken and you're free?
@@KnowingBetter Queue up the "Movin on up" music.
@@KnowingBetter Which explains why the garage was soooooo empty.
You did not just make a “Here in my garage” joke in 2021! That’s hilarious dude!
Obviously a greenscreen. No real garage is that empty.
Seriously that unlocked a part of my brain I didn't even remember existed
how old is the original video? cuz it feels like yesterday
KNAWLEDGE
I saw you in the garage with glasses and immediately got the reference and knew the commercial was coming. Good work. Laughed hard on that.
I was in a cult growing up. It's been excessively difficult to move on from it. The core manipulation tactic they used was everyone's basic understanding of exorcism. Typically that's a priest helping a victim overcome their demons. In our case they used 3 parties. The priest, the victim, and a third person who hosted the problem demon/spirit/entity. This made the victim feel more involved since they could confront the problem and, as you might can imagine, led to abuses. Later on, using the idea of hosting, one of the leaders played Host to the spirit of God and had sex with most of the females. He was married and most of them weren't single. But no one cared, it was God after all. Kids as young as 2 were taught to use firearms, drank beer, and did drugs. I was caught running away from home and the leaders of the group had me stand against a wall and took turns throwing rocks at me to symbolize an old testament stoning. I was 15. They warned me it would be worse if I continued to be rebellious. They engaged in animal sacrifice, and when the kids who raised the animals cried they were told it made the sacrifice more meaningful to God.
Cults suck.
Yeesh, that sounds horrible. I'm sorry you had to experience that growing up. What was the name of the organization? Did the government ever bust them?
@@VAWM. I'm not sure they ever settled on an official name. The leader thought he was the descendent of King David, though. As if that's original.
@@VAWM. And no, they were never busted for anything they did. The group just fell apart when the leader suddenly died.
Me thinking "Why hasn't Scientology sued them?" then KB says it.
KGB?
@@bucherregaldomi9084 KB = Knowing Better
To elaborate “Dominus Obsequious Sororium” is very poorly-written Latin, roughly meaning “Master (Masculine word, Literally meaning “Lord”) of Compliant Sisters” with obsequious (compliant) using the English spelling, not the actual Latin word “obsequiosus” from which it derives and declined to describe the LORD/Master as compliant, not the sisters.
So simultaneously incredibly creepy and incredibly dumb.
And isn’t sororium an adjective?
Compliant lord
@@tompatterson1548 Nope. A genitive (like possessive, but different word order) plural noun. Soror/Sororis is a 3rd declension feminine noun, not the more well-known 1st declension feminine.
Would’ve been hilarious, but that part’s actually right
With proper Latin it would be Dominus Obsequiosarum Sororium, or preferably with tha adjective after the noun, Dominus Sororium Obsequiosarum. If they really wanted some flair, it could have been something like "Ordo Sororium Domini Obsequiosarum", the Order of the Master's Compliant Sisters.
Incredibilis
these long format videos are phenomenal. I will gladly wait longer between videos for a deeper dive into these topics.
That segue into the sponsored bit was MAGNIFICENT! Sure is one way to get people to remember your ad. I applaud you!
15:55 - Psychologists are generally recommended to have one of their own, to discuss issues which might arise from seeing clients. This is what the Norwegian government recommends it's public mental health care workers.
Life coach is to psychologist like a piece of drift wood is to life guards.
Not from the same firm/cult/mlm
the bigger difference is that you probably don't have a down line of psychs who trained the psych who's their client.
maybe the real treasure was the girlfriends we made along the way
Thank you for the Stewart Smalley moment, I always think of him when I see self help books/blogs.
"Here in my garage" is far and ahead one of the best sponsor segments I've ever seen. But I'm a sucker for satire. :) Thanks, KB
I believe that, although he has touched on religion and politics, this is going to be his most controversial video just for stating that IQ is bullshit.
It's been a idea that's been gaining traction, especially on the political left. Because there are racists that misuse and misrepresent the science of IQ, they conclude that any use of IQ testing is worthless. In the context of KB's statement, the guy was using his IQ score as a dick measuring contest. Also a misuse of IQ testing.
Thing is, any psychometrician will tell you that IQ is an extremely limited measure. However, it's the best or only applicable tool to test certain hypotheses. If IQ testing's limitations are properly accounted for, it not "bullshit". It's bullshit when lay people try to use it. Dunning-kruger in action.
@@UberMenschNowFilms Such an elegantly concise way of saying it.
@@UberMenschNowFilms exactly, i won't say it's bullshit because it does correlate strongly with high income people and experts in their fields, but yea any racist who is using it to make himself feel better is showing really low IQ too.
it's not super controversial these days. and i don't think he'll ever be able to beat that "4k television is bullshit" video.
It's not that "sometimes IQ is misused." It's current existence is misused from it's original purpose, which was just to figure out which students needed more help in school.
IQ was never intended to be a static value or mean anything besides how much attention students need to help learn (for any causal reasons). It's just wrong (as it currently exists).
my Interpersonal Communication professor showed us What The Bleep Do We Know in class 🥴
Really?
It was also shown in an otherwise rather good philosophy class, in my high school :(
What's their actual qualification/degree? Interpersonal Communication sounds like it should be run by someone with a cog psych degree, but weasily enough to park a professor with a unrelated degree like law or business or art history.
I'm asking because our Prof. in Personnel Management is a doctor of law, and she gave us an offbrand version of the Myers-Briggs type indicator to explain personality structures and how to select for hiring. I got to do a whole presentation on personality types because I interjected in class and it turned out she just didn't know anything about personality psychology. Unfortunately, having a Chair doesn't mean you won't just "fake it till you make it".
@@dakunssd damn dude that sucks
I cringe remembering suggesting my MS physical science teacher put it on during a movie day
These videos have slowly went from quirky videos to show to a class to ways to trick people into thinking they’re high in class. I love it though, keep up the great work, I never stop being intrigued
Dude I just discovered your channel but it’s quickly becoming one of my favorites. I’ve already learned so much, keep up the great work!
"obnoxiously upbeat yet bland instrumental music" god I love not automatic subtitles
"Gonna have to remake all my best videos."
Absolutely love that attitude. The last few have been my favourites, so I'm down for a Golden Age. Keep it up, KB!
Great video and I love how long and in-depth these videos are
You always do a good job fitting the theme of your video, your ads are the only ones I watch because they’re not over-the-top and they aren’t boring, keep up the fantastic work man
The sponsor promo was, as always, legit hilarious! As soon as I saw the garage and the glasses I spit my coffee out LOL.
He is too great at these 😭😭
I was reminded of my father's problematic experiences with one of the early betterment groups that still exists though they weren't mentioned specifically in the video.
My father came back from WW II with a Purple Heart, five major battle stars and a major case of PTSD as he had been the last man standing in his unit, but kept on fighting in the Battle of the Bulge. PTSD, a.k.a shellshock, wasn't well understood and was not effectively treated. They convinced him to join AA, which has a dismal record. The problem with AA was their Protestant preaching, and my father and his buddies who joined were all Catholic. So they shrugged off the alien Protestant preachments and went out drinking after the AA meeting. On the positive side, he was trying to self-medicate with alcohol, but never once got violent with me or my mother. I hop the US military and the VA handle it better now, and don't just turn sufferers over to sketchy a sectarian outfit.
They just medicate now
I was an alcoholic for decades and haven't had a drink in 25 years. I was encouraged to go to AA but chose not to for a number of reasons. Chief among those reasons was the continuing relationship to and focus on ones relationship to alcohol, even if it was through abstinence. I also suffer from PTSD albeit from a different reason. He might not have been the easiest man to live with but the depth of his suffering and what it must've taken to spare you and your mom of what could have been so much worse showed the enormity of his love for you both.
@@cryin_1ion It also showed his self control and untarnished core humanity. Thanks for your replies. Best wishes.
The live laugh love pillow in the background is actually an important medallion in National Society of Karens. You also cut your hair to less than 6 inches and streak it with the color of your choice
I absolutely LOVE the Stuart Smalley reference at 4:03 Stuart Smalley Saves His Family is absolutely HILARIOUS, and the SNL skit was always great!!
I used to own a pub in London and Landmark would hold their seminar things in the building across the road, so we'd get a bunch of them piling in after each session.
Odd people. Perfectly lovely but... odd.
Munecat did a great series on Tony Robbins showing that he's actually the worst. Good stuff. Highly recommend watching if you're interested! ALSO 31:15 👀 Was this a pep talk during a roller derby intermission? Also ALSO, I'm *very* disappointed the male version of Jness wasn't call Pness.
Yes! It is so good 🐱
I would but, the words “toxic masculinity,” in the thumbnail is usually a clear sign that a video is going to be a bunch of feminist bull.
@@dabutchaistoxic Yeah, it's probably not for you then. ✌
@@dabutchaistoxic Imagine determining the merit & ideological basis of a video based on two words in a thumbnail. That’s ignorant as hell.
@@naeshelle The point of editing words into a thumbnail, is to interest people into clicking on it. Are you trying to tell me that the video is clickbait?
The fact that KB kept a consistent canon of the time travel incident.
The whole format of the video and the headset mic are hilarious. Another very interesting, comical, and somewhat disturbing video lol.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
Oh my god! I remember NXIVM. They were a thing in Monterrey, Mexico. I lived next to this very prestigious university, so they were apparently targeting it for recruitment. A mate was still in school and told me a pretty girl started talking to him and invited him to a "meeting" during the weekend. Of course, the meeting was all their "get control of your life stuff". He said he noped the hell out after it ended but saw other people paying substantial money for the next ones. As we know, it all came crashing down and severely affected the political career of some high-society people.
There was a student group when I was enrolled in this university that I can swear was connected to them because the sex-scandal allegations and rumors I overheard.
Nmms, de casualidad fué en el Tec?
@@albertonavarro8904 Claro. En un depa que rente había stickers pegados de esta gente y ese camarada los vió y se sacó de pedo. Me empezó a decir que no me metiera con esos locos y otras cosas. Yo no sabía quiénes eran hasta ese entonces.
Lol I thought Mexico would be better than this. Doing the same things as the US... And I thought that Mexico was a beacon of culture and knowledge in the dark horrible country that is the US (I'm French BTW)
El primer TEDx en Mexico en San Miguel de Allende tuvo una plática del hijo de Carlos Salinas de Gortari, repitiendo esencialmente lo que le decían en NXIVM. Cuando explotó el escándalo de NXIVM también el salió como uno de los miembros.
I'm curious where the In Lak'Ech hand shake came from, because I swear I've seen that thing before and the language looks familiar (unless it's jibberish)
This is the kind of long-term storytelling is something I did not expect, but greatly enjoy.
What is your profile picture from?
This guy is the bomb! I love the info he gives as well as the manner in which he gives it. Just real stuff!
Fantastic research and excellent reporting. Thank you
I’ve done Landmark’s programs and I’d say they helped me get more confidence and pursue my goals but it’s definitely not the cure all they claim it to be.
same. I did enjoy it at some point. But am no longer involved.
Internet historian and knowing better upload on the same day back to back at the exact time I wanted to sleep.
All we need now is oversimplified
Internet historian didnt upload though?
@@spicyleaves8876 second channel which is basically the main channel
@@augustosani Ah.
Ok this episode is really good, was not expecting all of this info
Can’t we just admire the amount of stuff he buys to put in his background?
his intro shows just how unfocused his channel is when it comes to topics, but it also shows just how smart he is that he can handle them all the exact same way and explain them all as if they were the exact same topic.
One of the best channels on TH-cam was look forward to these videos every month
Thanks for this video, found it highly informative. Keep up the good work, it is much appreciated.
'Keith combined the work of Ayn Rand and Ron L Hubbard'.
What could possibly go wrong ?
I love how this is engaging, educational, and caters to my love of TH-camrs making cinematic connections with other videos. Where has this channel been all my life, it's literally my favourite things. I got some long form videos to binge!
I love the pillows in the background, nice touch!
Therapy/Counseling and specifically Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, are extremely important if u want to overcome anxiety. dont be afraid to try a counselor or two out and see what fits.