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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a bit of a longer video but I have a discussion about different methods, different tools, different ways in which to have a compact bit-driver setup for on-the-go.
Setups and items discussed:
The Wiha Go
Big Idea Design Bit Inline
The Victorinox Rambler mod
Leatherman Bit Driver Extender
The Leatherman Wave and Leatherman bits
The Wera Toolcheck Plus
Wera Rapidator Bit Bar Version 2
The SOG Powerpint (butt end)
James Cache River
Wiha double-ended bits
Big Idea Design
The Steinwhale bit driver extension (takes Wiha double-ended bits)
The Wiha Centrofix (takes Wiha double-ended bits)
The Victorinox Tool Spirit Bit Extension+Bitcase
Topeak Ratchet Rocket Lite DX
TI EDS II: The Everyday Screwdriver
What do you guys use? Let me know! List what sort of compact lightweight setup yall use! :D
I don't carry but keep them in my toolbox, so compact & weight isn't the biggest driver for me. That said, I really love the Hazet 810R-4 screwdriver. 12 bits in the handle that are amazing quality, and the locking collar holds them perfectly.
The hazet smart cases 2200SC-X are pretty compact. Or the 2300SH-1 is similar of the Wera Toolcheck.
Love your overview and ideas. For 1/4 inch drivers I have used "stubby" bits rather than double sided bits. Stubby bits are 18mm rather than the standard 25mm long. They weigh basically half the weight, as it is the shaft which is "chopped" off. My PB Swiss Tools bit 470 M adapter is too short for double sided bits.
2 stubby bits may offer a better choice of screwdriver sizes rather than a double sided one. Disadvantage, many bit holders may "swallow" stubby bits. Therefore I suggest buying a stubby bit set thgat includes a bit holder. Of course stubby bits are not intended for electric drills even if they fit.
Small screws don't need 1/4" bits. Therefore I carry a 4mm 1/4 inch adapter to use 4mm bits for small screw jobs that require very little torque. The adapter is also a nut for 4mm bolts. Precision bits weigh 2 to 3gr, less than half of a 1/4 inch bit and still less than a small stubby bit. I bought great double sided 4mm bits.
The mix of stubby bits and double sided 4mm bits means minimal weight and packaging. I explained my choices on my channel :-) hint hint.
I also played with the idea of a Victorinox Rambler and Mini Champ combo tool to use with a bit holder adapter, but I think that is seriously limited in application. As soon as you apply substantial torque, this will bend the Vic chassis.
I tested the 91mm Victorinox Cyber Tool up to 5NM of torque, I dod not dare to apply more torque. 5NM is more than enough for most bike accessories, but too little to loosen rusty screws or for the cranks and bottom bracket.
I think the same can be said for screwdriver solutions for almost all multi tools. They do work, but within limitations. Therefore I have selected a dedicated solution.
I agree! I find in general using a multitool just doesn't have the same power as using a dedicated tool. I find these days I pretty much just use the Topeak and some extension for bits. Can you show me a link of the stubby bits. That's an idea I definitely never considered before :P
Just bought two of the wiha sets one for 1/8 drive hex bits and screwdriver and other for the ratchet one with blue 1/4 bits. But for me I will always stick to my Ifix it mako set.
I think wera 9506 and 9507 4-in-1 bits are amazing in terms of being compact. Plus whatever else compact bit driver like 711L's mini ratchet, or the tyre lever comes with wera bicycle set 15, this should be the most compact combination at least for cyclists. The drawback is that the bits only cover hex 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6 and T25, no philips or other interfaces.
This has insprired me to get that doublesided bit holder for my wiha bits. I like EDCing the leatherman extension on my Swiss Champ but hate how soft those bits are.
Theyr'e great bits too. Wiha bits are probably one of the best in quality bits.
My EDC screwdriver is the central part of the DUKA ratchet.
Ooh I like that! I like how it can be easily detached. How much does the tool weigh?
@@DracomiesAbout 55 gr, but I don't have a precision scale
Ok thank you! ^_^@@elduendeoscuro
Hey! Great video! very thought provoking. I'm working on some ideas for my own video on compact screwdrivers for EDC. Thanks for giving me the idea for the Steinwhale ( I will give you credit 😁). I am a big fan of the Topeak Ratchet Rocket lite - it is a great toolkit in itself (not just for bikes) and have a couple of videos using the ratchet. I have the Victorinox L-shaped bit set too. Such a shame they don't sell it anymore and their rachet is expensive. If you only need a flathead and phillips the Stanley 4in1 is compact and good value (cheap)
Oh the Steinwhale is a game changer! We learned about this last week. But yeah that extender actually does work 'decently enough' for Wiha double sided bits. And doublesided bits shrink a toolset by quite a bit! :D
Victoriox are not selling the wrench anymore? I am a "bit" surprised. Like the ratchet, they have always sold the wrench as "spare" part, not as a product. Therefore parts like that are always difficult to find on Vics' website. Dealer whise, I see plenty of offers at reasonable prices for the wrench. Btw, in Germany it seems always cheaper to buy the wrench and bit organizer separately rather than as a "set".
@@fastandcurious I couldn't find the L wrench on the Victorinox site or Amazon. It might be available on some reseller sites. It's a shame and the cheap copies are not that good.
It's the Milwaukee fastback for me. It comes with all the only tools I need at work sometimes. Even the bottle opener lol
Steinwhale extender + PowerPint = money. For a ratchet, I use the 711L hex end. I keep two 10mm x 5mm x 2mm magnets on my PowerPint to keep it closed. Helps when screwdriving too.
yeah that's an awesome combo. That covers all ground pretty much! :D Nice and compact too
There’s something about Wera that people will always buy that rather than getting individual stuff even if you can get it cheaper for the same or more function😅
Oh I love Wera stuff. They are so intuitive and so good at what they do. I love Wera.
Agree on the leatherman driver. Its annoying to open. A driver seems like it should the quickest thing to deploy.
Sak Cybertool is literally the only answer
Based!! :D
How often do you find yourself needing to actually use any of these bits? I feel like any time I've needed to use anything other than a standard phillips/flathead, I have a full toolkit nearby to use. My leatherman has a phillips/flathead built in.
I'd say it happens enough where the kit is necessary. It's a kaizen sort of thing I guess?
@@Dracomies Does your job require it? What kind of situations do you find yourself needing them? Sorry, I just struggle to think of a situation where I wouldn't have a toolbox nearby.
I'm going to explain this in a way that I explain it. Look at your keys. Look at your wallet. Look at your cards. The average person doesn't care. But I do, I care about efficiency. I remove cards that don't need to be in my wallet. I remove keys that don't need to be in there.I think about cards I actually need to have. This saves me time everyday. I go through less cards, I pay quicker, I open doors quicker. I kind of have this approach with everything. Can I do it faster? Can it be more compact? Can it be lighter? Can it be better? @@dkbnz11
@@Dracomies That's great, I care about efficiency too. I am also wary of premature optimisation. There's a cost/benefit tradeoff to consider and I'm not entirely convinced carrying separate bits are worth it. Completely understand that it may be worth it for you but you still haven't really answered my question - how often do you actually use it?
You’re absolutely right. From a point of price and what is practical for costs, it doesn’t make sense. And you’re right in the sense that my approach to these setups isn’t the same as others you may have seen. I think to understand this it’s just something I borrowed from r/onebag. In onebag people are obsessed with trying to find the most perfect setup for weight and size so that everything can fit in one carry-on bag. Here’s my post on r/onebag which actually tells you more about myself and how I think about size and weight: www.reddit.com/r/onebag/comments/1b29odq/comment/ksmnfit/? If you really think about it, it doesn’t make sense from a point of cost and money. But it’s trying to find the most optimal setup regardless. As to your answer and I won’t skirt around it :P I don’t use it everyday. I use it occasionally. But what I do use without fail is the Wera Toolcheck Plus. I freaking love it. But as the months went on I began thinking // Can I go smaller? Can I go lighter? And my most recent video (not this one but another one) shrank my toolset by about 80 percent using a Vaco 7 in 1 and double-ended bits. I hope this answers your question. It’s not normal. It’s not practical. I get it. You have to understand I do this, not from how other people do - but I do it because it’s fun.@@dkbnz11
Klein bits are really good
But are they better than Wiha? :D
I think they are just as good@@Dracomies
I sometimes carry the Leatherman Style PS with an adapter on the end that has a slot for Leatherman 2D bits (from Etsy). I'll carry that with the Leatherman ratchet driver and bit kit. Definitely not the best in the world, but very compact when that's the goal.
I love the Leatherman Squirt and Style PS! Which has the same pliers as the Style PS. Definitely those are handier than I thought they'd be. It's a huge bummer Leatherman discontinued them :S
@@Dracomies Yeah, I have both and love them both. But only the Style PS can be converted to use Leatherman bits and ratchet driver. 👍
I am looking for a compact size up with sockets . Not sure what I want . 😁
I was looking this up yesterday too! If you want compact SAE go for "Klein Tools 32933 Impact Driver, 7-in-1 Impact Flip Socket Set". If you are going metric, go for Makita E-01694 Impact XPS 8 Pc. 1/4" Drive 6-Point Metric Impact Socket Set w/Standard Socket Adapter. If someone else knows something better I'm game too :P
Good ideas here - interested in the bit holders you're using. Haven't seen that design before but really like it. Do you have a source?
PB Swiss Block
cool stuff. do you have any links?
Have u ever tried to screw with the power pint x bits ? 😅 its a pain. Doable. But a pain.. use leatherman wrench bit
Agree! I'd rather use a proper screwdriver. ie Wera rapidator + Topeak :D
The autofocus was kind of annoying in this video
I can't win. My other audio equipment video had no auto-focus. This one has too much lel.
So you've always had the Wiha micro driver set that you recently bought? You lost me there.
Sorry I worded that incorrectly in the video. I meant I had the mini set, not the full set.
@@Dracomies 😉
Prestacycle Fixit Sticks Pro
Those are heavy though. I know Maxleveldc likes them. But when you really think about it they're way too heavy. ie bits and Topeak are like 4 ounces whereas those are 8++ ounces.
Yeah, mine weighs 7.6 oz and gets carried in a belt organizer. I just really like the package. Used to carry an ARES 70040 (ratchet + inline is amazing, and a cut down Allen wrench is a perfect cheater bar) but it was a little too lightweight for my needs. The Screwpop Screwdriver was almost it. Random length of wood or pipe and I'd have enough mechanical advantage to be gentle while still generating a lot of torque. Bit management was too much of a nightmare. The Fixit Sticks aren't perfect, but it's a solid compact package. 18 bits. no extender needed. Dropped it from a ladder without everything exploding. Without the rubber holder though, yeah, wouldn't be worth it. And you're right, would like it more if it took double sided bits. @@Dracomies