topeak bit ratchet + steinwhale double sided stubby bits covers almost everything light duty, weighs very little and is front pocketable. Unlike the wiha doubles, steinwhale doubles fit in normal extenders very well.
I just picked out a couple of tools from my garage for comparison. First is a 4 in one (or 6 in one) that lots of companies make. It has 2 double-ended bits, phillips and straight slot, and if you remove the bits the center shaft is a 1/4" and 5/16" nutdriver. This is a very usable setup but not compact or light, I use it frequently. Full length is 7" and handle diameter is 1". If you pull the components apart it would fit in a 4.5" space. The other one is a workforce brand ratcheting screwdriver, 6" long x 1.4" diameter. It has a holder in the handle that fits 12 single end bits and an extension. This is where it gets its versatility with 3 phillips, 3 straight, 3 torx and 3 square which is all more than I need which is why I typically don't reach for this one. Anything smaller or lighter than these is going to give up on function. Yes a Leatherman is harder to use, or some of the other options in the video, but that is the price to make them smaller or lighter. You want functionality you can't beat the 2 that I have. However I think either one of these designs could be made smaller and lighter. The 1" diameter handle could be reduced a little bit and still allow a person to get a sufficient amount of torque on it and the components could be made lighter. The larger handle with internal bit storage could be made lighter and still hold 8 or so bits, that would be enough for most people.
This has insprired me to get that doublesided bit holder for my wiha bits. I like EDCing the leatherman extension on my Swiss Champ but hate how soft those bits are.
I don't carry but keep them in my toolbox, so compact & weight isn't the biggest driver for me. That said, I really love the Hazet 810R-4 screwdriver. 12 bits in the handle that are amazing quality, and the locking collar holds them perfectly. The hazet smart cases 2200SC-X are pretty compact. Or the 2300SH-1 is similar of the Wera Toolcheck.
Hey! Great video! very thought provoking. I'm working on some ideas for my own video on compact screwdrivers for EDC. Thanks for giving me the idea for the Steinwhale ( I will give you credit 😁). I am a big fan of the Topeak Ratchet Rocket lite - it is a great toolkit in itself (not just for bikes) and have a couple of videos using the ratchet. I have the Victorinox L-shaped bit set too. Such a shame they don't sell it anymore and their rachet is expensive. If you only need a flathead and phillips the Stanley 4in1 is compact and good value (cheap)
Oh the Steinwhale is a game changer! We learned about this last week. But yeah that extender actually does work 'decently enough' for Wiha double sided bits. And doublesided bits shrink a toolset by quite a bit! :D
Victoriox are not selling the wrench anymore? I am a "bit" surprised. Like the ratchet, they have always sold the wrench as "spare" part, not as a product. Therefore parts like that are always difficult to find on Vics' website. Dealer whise, I see plenty of offers at reasonable prices for the wrench. Btw, in Germany it seems always cheaper to buy the wrench and bit organizer separately rather than as a "set".
@@fastandcurious I couldn't find the L wrench on the Victorinox site or Amazon. It might be available on some reseller sites. It's a shame and the cheap copies are not that good.
Love your overview and ideas. For 1/4 inch drivers I have used "stubby" bits rather than double sided bits. Stubby bits are 18mm rather than the standard 25mm long. They weigh basically half the weight, as it is the shaft which is "chopped" off. My PB Swiss Tools bit 470 M adapter is too short for double sided bits. 2 stubby bits may offer a better choice of screwdriver sizes rather than a double sided one. Disadvantage, many bit holders may "swallow" stubby bits. Therefore I suggest buying a stubby bit set thgat includes a bit holder. Of course stubby bits are not intended for electric drills even if they fit. Small screws don't need 1/4" bits. Therefore I carry a 4mm 1/4 inch adapter to use 4mm bits for small screw jobs that require very little torque. The adapter is also a nut for 4mm bolts. Precision bits weigh 2 to 3gr, less than half of a 1/4 inch bit and still less than a small stubby bit. I bought great double sided 4mm bits. The mix of stubby bits and double sided 4mm bits means minimal weight and packaging. I explained my choices on my channel :-) hint hint. I also played with the idea of a Victorinox Rambler and Mini Champ combo tool to use with a bit holder adapter, but I think that is seriously limited in application. As soon as you apply substantial torque, this will bend the Vic chassis. I tested the 91mm Victorinox Cyber Tool up to 5NM of torque, I dod not dare to apply more torque. 5NM is more than enough for most bike accessories, but too little to loosen rusty screws or for the cranks and bottom bracket. I think the same can be said for screwdriver solutions for almost all multi tools. They do work, but within limitations. Therefore I have selected a dedicated solution.
I agree! I find in general using a multitool just doesn't have the same power as using a dedicated tool. I find these days I pretty much just use the Topeak and some extension for bits. Can you show me a link of the stubby bits. That's an idea I definitely never considered before :P
Steinwhale double sided bits, tiny 711L mini ratchet and a Wera 50mm 1/4” extension, all good quality items that work well together, I got the idea from Tod Parker’s channel.
For me I settled with wiha double sided bits + Wera 813r(it's actually compatible). Or just regular bits + 711 lollipop. I really like the 711 lollipop quite a lot.
Nice. That Wera driver is the only thing that attracts me to the Tool Check Plus. Just ordered the Steinwhale bits, might just get the Wera. Definitely carrying the VIM Tools HBR3 Double ended with the bits though. The breaker bar seems too genius and compact to not carry.
I have this and the fix it sticks are way better quality and design. The 2 I would choose are the locking hex ratchet or the 2 mini sticks that fit together.
What is it that you are intending to do with your tools? What do you want to be prepared for? I think the Leatherman is a good option for its weight because it includes screwdrivers with knife blades and pliers. In my daily life I might need all of these. If a person is anticipating needing a screwdriver then they usually would only need a common straight slot and phillips- that's one double ended bit. If you might need to adjust some furniture you might need some hex or torx bits. If you are working on small equipment you might need the smaller straight slot or phillips but that's only one more double-ended bit. With this in mind you can cut down on what you need to carry. If you are anticipating a lot of work such as assembling furniture or bicycles in a store then you probably should just carry a larger set of tools and not worry about size. None of your options look all that good if you anticipate driving a lot of screws. The SOG plus bit holder looks the closest to a regular screwdriver but you are carrying 3 separate pieces. If I was anticipating driving a lot of screws then it wouldn't be that much more bulk to just carry an actual screwdriver with some double ended bits in it. For a just in case situation where I might need to turn some screws I think one red plastic rack of double ended bits plus a bit holder would be the smallest. If I restrict the possibilities to just phillips and straight slot then I actually do carry a Leatherman Skeletool that includes 2 double ended bits. One of my favorite tools is in my shop is a reversible screwdriver that has 2 double ended bits. I can grab that and know that it will handle any normal screw situation. I have other bit sets if I might need to handle hex or torx so I will throw those in my tool bag. Many years ago when I worked as a professional mechanic, this was in the days before multitools, I carried an old traditional folding knife that I had been given. The tip of the main blade had been broken off so I ground it square and carried it as a folding straight slot screwdriver. It was very effective working on cars, and the main blade still had enough edge to cut hoses and belts. You had 2 tools on your table somewhat like that and I feel like I would like to have them to try out but they are too expensive for what I need.
Steinwhale extender + PowerPint = money. For a ratchet, I use the 711L hex end. I keep two 10mm x 5mm x 2mm magnets on my PowerPint to keep it closed. Helps when screwdriving too.
For me I’d focus on what bits I actually use or might use and optimize from there. The wiha and wera are fantastic for a toolbox but not for edc. How you carry is also super important factor to me. If my requirements are: compact in-pocket carry and intentional bit selection then it makes my decision much easier because it eliminates many options. Also in my eyes ergonomics take a back seat to form factor if you plan to carry in pocket.
Good day. Have you tested the Wiha Centrofix bit holder's compatibility with 6mm and 8mm double-sided Steinwhale bits? Furthermore, does it securely engage with a Leatherman ratchet driver?
Just bought two of the wiha sets one for 1/8 drive hex bits and screwdriver and other for the ratchet one with blue 1/4 bits. But for me I will always stick to my Ifix it mako set.
I was looking this up yesterday too! If you want compact SAE go for "Klein Tools 32933 Impact Driver, 7-in-1 Impact Flip Socket Set". If you are going metric, go for Makita E-01694 Impact XPS 8 Pc. 1/4" Drive 6-Point Metric Impact Socket Set w/Standard Socket Adapter. If someone else knows something better I'm game too :P
How often do you find yourself needing to actually use any of these bits? I feel like any time I've needed to use anything other than a standard phillips/flathead, I have a full toolkit nearby to use. My leatherman has a phillips/flathead built in.
@@Dracomies Does your job require it? What kind of situations do you find yourself needing them? Sorry, I just struggle to think of a situation where I wouldn't have a toolbox nearby.
I'm going to explain this in a way that I explain it. Look at your keys. Look at your wallet. Look at your cards. The average person doesn't care. But I do, I care about efficiency. I remove cards that don't need to be in my wallet. I remove keys that don't need to be in there.I think about cards I actually need to have. This saves me time everyday. I go through less cards, I pay quicker, I open doors quicker. I kind of have this approach with everything. Can I do it faster? Can it be more compact? Can it be lighter? Can it be better? @@dkbnz11
@@Dracomies That's great, I care about efficiency too. I am also wary of premature optimisation. There's a cost/benefit tradeoff to consider and I'm not entirely convinced carrying separate bits are worth it. Completely understand that it may be worth it for you but you still haven't really answered my question - how often do you actually use it?
You’re absolutely right. From a point of price and what is practical for costs, it doesn’t make sense. And you’re right in the sense that my approach to these setups isn’t the same as others you may have seen. I think to understand this it’s just something I borrowed from r/onebag. In onebag people are obsessed with trying to find the most perfect setup for weight and size so that everything can fit in one carry-on bag. Here’s my post on r/onebag which actually tells you more about myself and how I think about size and weight: www.reddit.com/r/onebag/comments/1b29odq/comment/ksmnfit/? If you really think about it, it doesn’t make sense from a point of cost and money. But it’s trying to find the most optimal setup regardless. As to your answer and I won’t skirt around it :P I don’t use it everyday. I use it occasionally. But what I do use without fail is the Wera Toolcheck Plus. I freaking love it. But as the months went on I began thinking // Can I go smaller? Can I go lighter? And my most recent video (not this one but another one) shrank my toolset by about 80 percent using a Vaco 7 in 1 and double-ended bits. I hope this answers your question. It’s not normal. It’s not practical. I get it. You have to understand I do this, not from how other people do - but I do it because it’s fun.@@dkbnz11
I think wera 9506 and 9507 4-in-1 bits are amazing in terms of being compact. Plus whatever else compact bit driver like 711L's mini ratchet, or the tyre lever comes with wera bicycle set 15, this should be the most compact combination at least for cyclists. The drawback is that the bits only cover hex 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6 and T25, no philips or other interfaces.
There’s something about Wera that people will always buy that rather than getting individual stuff even if you can get it cheaper for the same or more function😅
I sometimes carry the Leatherman Style PS with an adapter on the end that has a slot for Leatherman 2D bits (from Etsy). I'll carry that with the Leatherman ratchet driver and bit kit. Definitely not the best in the world, but very compact when that's the goal.
I love the Leatherman Squirt and Style PS! Which has the same pliers as the Style PS. Definitely those are handier than I thought they'd be. It's a huge bummer Leatherman discontinued them :S
Jesus Christ, did you take a line before recording. The best compact bit driver setup is the icon. But judging by your logic on how you purchase tools, I can see how that isn’t in your radar. But price for what you get and its utility. I’ve been down this rabbit hole and nothing compares
Before watching: Most compact setup is you take flat leatherman bits, add few normal bits (I prefer extended), stuff them all into small tin box. And on top of that you get small but classic handle like from wera. Because it is a pain to do any real work with ratchets or multitools. And you throw out any head bits because cobra can replace them all. As for small bits you take 1/4 to small bits adapter and stuff it into the same tin box
Classic handles don't work with Leatherman bits. It'll just slip out. ie they don't work on Wera. Also putting it in a tin box means you are losing efficiency, ie you are sifting through the box. The nice thing about the Steinwhale bits are that they're labeled. Or as an alternative, double-sided Wiha bits with PB Swissblocks are easy to see as well.
@@Dracomies slip out if some tork is applied? I mean I've tested them on furniture screws and there was no issues. Maybe they slip with greater torque?
@@binariti What handle are you using with the Leatherman bits? On all I've tested (with the exception of maybe 1 or 2) it'll just fly out if you shake it a bit. Also many of the bits are straight up not compatible with Wera and I show this in my other vids.
@@Dracomies I've tested with Wera 813r And while lock mechanism does not work the bit is still firmly fixed by magnet. There is a risk that when some torque applied it could turn inside the slot. But the handle is so small that it's hard to apply much torque.
Those are heavy though. I know Maxleveldc likes them. But when you really think about it they're way too heavy. ie bits and Topeak are like 4 ounces whereas those are 8++ ounces.
Yeah, mine weighs 7.6 oz and gets carried in a belt organizer. I just really like the package. Used to carry an ARES 70040 (ratchet + inline is amazing, and a cut down Allen wrench is a perfect cheater bar) but it was a little too lightweight for my needs. The Screwpop Screwdriver was almost it. Random length of wood or pipe and I'd have enough mechanical advantage to be gentle while still generating a lot of torque. Bit management was too much of a nightmare. The Fixit Sticks aren't perfect, but it's a solid compact package. 18 bits. no extender needed. Dropped it from a ladder without everything exploding. Without the rubber holder though, yeah, wouldn't be worth it. And you're right, would like it more if it took double sided bits. @@Dracomies
What do you guys use? Let me know! List what sort of compact lightweight setup yall use! :D
topeak bit ratchet + steinwhale double sided stubby bits covers almost everything light duty, weighs very little and is front pocketable. Unlike the wiha doubles, steinwhale doubles fit in normal extenders very well.
I just picked out a couple of tools from my garage for comparison. First is a 4 in one (or 6 in one) that lots of companies make. It has 2 double-ended bits, phillips and straight slot, and if you remove the bits the center shaft is a 1/4" and 5/16" nutdriver. This is a very usable setup but not compact or light, I use it frequently. Full length is 7" and handle diameter is 1". If you pull the components apart it would fit in a 4.5" space. The other one is a workforce brand ratcheting screwdriver, 6" long x 1.4" diameter. It has a holder in the handle that fits 12 single end bits and an extension. This is where it gets its versatility with 3 phillips, 3 straight, 3 torx and 3 square which is all more than I need which is why I typically don't reach for this one. Anything smaller or lighter than these is going to give up on function. Yes a Leatherman is harder to use, or some of the other options in the video, but that is the price to make them smaller or lighter. You want functionality you can't beat the 2 that I have. However I think either one of these designs could be made smaller and lighter. The 1" diameter handle could be reduced a little bit and still allow a person to get a sufficient amount of torque on it and the components could be made lighter. The larger handle with internal bit storage could be made lighter and still hold 8 or so bits, that would be enough for most people.
This has insprired me to get that doublesided bit holder for my wiha bits. I like EDCing the leatherman extension on my Swiss Champ but hate how soft those bits are.
Theyr'e great bits too. Wiha bits are probably one of the best in quality bits.
I don't carry but keep them in my toolbox, so compact & weight isn't the biggest driver for me. That said, I really love the Hazet 810R-4 screwdriver. 12 bits in the handle that are amazing quality, and the locking collar holds them perfectly.
The hazet smart cases 2200SC-X are pretty compact. Or the 2300SH-1 is similar of the Wera Toolcheck.
Hey! Great video! very thought provoking. I'm working on some ideas for my own video on compact screwdrivers for EDC. Thanks for giving me the idea for the Steinwhale ( I will give you credit 😁). I am a big fan of the Topeak Ratchet Rocket lite - it is a great toolkit in itself (not just for bikes) and have a couple of videos using the ratchet. I have the Victorinox L-shaped bit set too. Such a shame they don't sell it anymore and their rachet is expensive. If you only need a flathead and phillips the Stanley 4in1 is compact and good value (cheap)
Oh the Steinwhale is a game changer! We learned about this last week. But yeah that extender actually does work 'decently enough' for Wiha double sided bits. And doublesided bits shrink a toolset by quite a bit! :D
Victoriox are not selling the wrench anymore? I am a "bit" surprised. Like the ratchet, they have always sold the wrench as "spare" part, not as a product. Therefore parts like that are always difficult to find on Vics' website. Dealer whise, I see plenty of offers at reasonable prices for the wrench. Btw, in Germany it seems always cheaper to buy the wrench and bit organizer separately rather than as a "set".
@@fastandcurious I couldn't find the L wrench on the Victorinox site or Amazon. It might be available on some reseller sites. It's a shame and the cheap copies are not that good.
Love your overview and ideas. For 1/4 inch drivers I have used "stubby" bits rather than double sided bits. Stubby bits are 18mm rather than the standard 25mm long. They weigh basically half the weight, as it is the shaft which is "chopped" off. My PB Swiss Tools bit 470 M adapter is too short for double sided bits.
2 stubby bits may offer a better choice of screwdriver sizes rather than a double sided one. Disadvantage, many bit holders may "swallow" stubby bits. Therefore I suggest buying a stubby bit set thgat includes a bit holder. Of course stubby bits are not intended for electric drills even if they fit.
Small screws don't need 1/4" bits. Therefore I carry a 4mm 1/4 inch adapter to use 4mm bits for small screw jobs that require very little torque. The adapter is also a nut for 4mm bolts. Precision bits weigh 2 to 3gr, less than half of a 1/4 inch bit and still less than a small stubby bit. I bought great double sided 4mm bits.
The mix of stubby bits and double sided 4mm bits means minimal weight and packaging. I explained my choices on my channel :-) hint hint.
I also played with the idea of a Victorinox Rambler and Mini Champ combo tool to use with a bit holder adapter, but I think that is seriously limited in application. As soon as you apply substantial torque, this will bend the Vic chassis.
I tested the 91mm Victorinox Cyber Tool up to 5NM of torque, I dod not dare to apply more torque. 5NM is more than enough for most bike accessories, but too little to loosen rusty screws or for the cranks and bottom bracket.
I think the same can be said for screwdriver solutions for almost all multi tools. They do work, but within limitations. Therefore I have selected a dedicated solution.
I agree! I find in general using a multitool just doesn't have the same power as using a dedicated tool. I find these days I pretty much just use the Topeak and some extension for bits. Can you show me a link of the stubby bits. That's an idea I definitely never considered before :P
Steinwhale double sided bits, tiny 711L mini ratchet and a Wera 50mm 1/4” extension, all good quality items that work well together, I got the idea from Tod Parker’s channel.
For me I settled with wiha double sided bits + Wera 813r(it's actually compatible). Or just regular bits + 711 lollipop. I really like the 711 lollipop quite a lot.
Nice. That Wera driver is the only thing that attracts me to the Tool Check Plus. Just ordered the Steinwhale bits, might just get the Wera. Definitely carrying the VIM Tools HBR3 Double ended with the bits though. The breaker bar seems too genius and compact to not carry.
My EDC screwdriver is the central part of the DUKA ratchet.
Ooh I like that! I like how it can be easily detached. How much does the tool weigh?
@@DracomiesAbout 55 gr, but I don't have a precision scale
Ok thank you! ^_^@@elduendeoscuro
I have this and the fix it sticks are way better quality and design. The 2 I would choose are the locking hex ratchet or the 2 mini sticks that fit together.
What is it that you are intending to do with your tools? What do you want to be prepared for?
I think the Leatherman is a good option for its weight because it includes screwdrivers with knife blades and pliers. In my daily life I might need all of these.
If a person is anticipating needing a screwdriver then they usually would only need a common straight slot and phillips- that's one double ended bit. If you might need to adjust some furniture you might need some hex or torx bits. If you are working on small equipment you might need the smaller straight slot or phillips but that's only one more double-ended bit. With this in mind you can cut down on what you need to carry. If you are anticipating a lot of work such as assembling furniture or bicycles in a store then you probably should just carry a larger set of tools and not worry about size.
None of your options look all that good if you anticipate driving a lot of screws. The SOG plus bit holder looks the closest to a regular screwdriver but you are carrying 3 separate pieces. If I was anticipating driving a lot of screws then it wouldn't be that much more bulk to just carry an actual screwdriver with some double ended bits in it. For a just in case situation where I might need to turn some screws I think one red plastic rack of double ended bits plus a bit holder would be the smallest. If I restrict the possibilities to just phillips and straight slot then I actually do carry a Leatherman Skeletool that includes 2 double ended bits.
One of my favorite tools is in my shop is a reversible screwdriver that has 2 double ended bits. I can grab that and know that it will handle any normal screw situation. I have other bit sets if I might need to handle hex or torx so I will throw those in my tool bag.
Many years ago when I worked as a professional mechanic, this was in the days before multitools, I carried an old traditional folding knife that I had been given. The tip of the main blade had been broken off so I ground it square and carried it as a folding straight slot screwdriver. It was very effective working on cars, and the main blade still had enough edge to cut hoses and belts. You had 2 tools on your table somewhat like that and I feel like I would like to have them to try out but they are too expensive for what I need.
Steinwhale extender + PowerPint = money. For a ratchet, I use the 711L hex end. I keep two 10mm x 5mm x 2mm magnets on my PowerPint to keep it closed. Helps when screwdriving too.
yeah that's an awesome combo. That covers all ground pretty much! :D Nice and compact too
For me I’d focus on what bits I actually use or might use and optimize from there. The wiha and wera are fantastic for a toolbox but not for edc. How you carry is also super important factor to me. If my requirements are: compact in-pocket carry and intentional bit selection then it makes my decision much easier because it eliminates many options. Also in my eyes ergonomics take a back seat to form factor if you plan to carry in pocket.
Based on that answer probably the most compact is steinwhale bits.
Good day. Have you tested the Wiha Centrofix bit holder's compatibility with 6mm and 8mm double-sided Steinwhale bits? Furthermore, does it securely engage with a Leatherman ratchet driver?
It's the Milwaukee fastback for me. It comes with all the only tools I need at work sometimes. Even the bottle opener lol
Just bought two of the wiha sets one for 1/8 drive hex bits and screwdriver and other for the ratchet one with blue 1/4 bits. But for me I will always stick to my Ifix it mako set.
I am looking for a compact size up with sockets . Not sure what I want . 😁
I was looking this up yesterday too! If you want compact SAE go for "Klein Tools 32933 Impact Driver, 7-in-1 Impact Flip Socket Set". If you are going metric, go for Makita E-01694 Impact XPS 8 Pc. 1/4" Drive 6-Point Metric Impact Socket Set w/Standard Socket Adapter. If someone else knows something better I'm game too :P
Agree on the leatherman driver. Its annoying to open. A driver seems like it should the quickest thing to deploy.
How often do you find yourself needing to actually use any of these bits? I feel like any time I've needed to use anything other than a standard phillips/flathead, I have a full toolkit nearby to use. My leatherman has a phillips/flathead built in.
I'd say it happens enough where the kit is necessary. It's a kaizen sort of thing I guess?
@@Dracomies Does your job require it? What kind of situations do you find yourself needing them? Sorry, I just struggle to think of a situation where I wouldn't have a toolbox nearby.
I'm going to explain this in a way that I explain it. Look at your keys. Look at your wallet. Look at your cards. The average person doesn't care. But I do, I care about efficiency. I remove cards that don't need to be in my wallet. I remove keys that don't need to be in there.I think about cards I actually need to have. This saves me time everyday. I go through less cards, I pay quicker, I open doors quicker. I kind of have this approach with everything. Can I do it faster? Can it be more compact? Can it be lighter? Can it be better? @@dkbnz11
@@Dracomies That's great, I care about efficiency too. I am also wary of premature optimisation. There's a cost/benefit tradeoff to consider and I'm not entirely convinced carrying separate bits are worth it. Completely understand that it may be worth it for you but you still haven't really answered my question - how often do you actually use it?
You’re absolutely right. From a point of price and what is practical for costs, it doesn’t make sense. And you’re right in the sense that my approach to these setups isn’t the same as others you may have seen. I think to understand this it’s just something I borrowed from r/onebag. In onebag people are obsessed with trying to find the most perfect setup for weight and size so that everything can fit in one carry-on bag. Here’s my post on r/onebag which actually tells you more about myself and how I think about size and weight: www.reddit.com/r/onebag/comments/1b29odq/comment/ksmnfit/? If you really think about it, it doesn’t make sense from a point of cost and money. But it’s trying to find the most optimal setup regardless. As to your answer and I won’t skirt around it :P I don’t use it everyday. I use it occasionally. But what I do use without fail is the Wera Toolcheck Plus. I freaking love it. But as the months went on I began thinking // Can I go smaller? Can I go lighter? And my most recent video (not this one but another one) shrank my toolset by about 80 percent using a Vaco 7 in 1 and double-ended bits. I hope this answers your question. It’s not normal. It’s not practical. I get it. You have to understand I do this, not from how other people do - but I do it because it’s fun.@@dkbnz11
I think wera 9506 and 9507 4-in-1 bits are amazing in terms of being compact. Plus whatever else compact bit driver like 711L's mini ratchet, or the tyre lever comes with wera bicycle set 15, this should be the most compact combination at least for cyclists. The drawback is that the bits only cover hex 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6 and T25, no philips or other interfaces.
There’s something about Wera that people will always buy that rather than getting individual stuff even if you can get it cheaper for the same or more function😅
Oh I love Wera stuff. They are so intuitive and so good at what they do. I love Wera.
I sometimes carry the Leatherman Style PS with an adapter on the end that has a slot for Leatherman 2D bits (from Etsy). I'll carry that with the Leatherman ratchet driver and bit kit. Definitely not the best in the world, but very compact when that's the goal.
I love the Leatherman Squirt and Style PS! Which has the same pliers as the Style PS. Definitely those are handier than I thought they'd be. It's a huge bummer Leatherman discontinued them :S
@@Dracomies Yeah, I have both and love them both. But only the Style PS can be converted to use Leatherman bits and ratchet driver. 👍
cool stuff. do you have any links?
Good ideas here - interested in the bit holders you're using. Haven't seen that design before but really like it. Do you have a source?
PB Swiss Block
Klein bits are really good
But are they better than Wiha? :D
I think they are just as good@@Dracomies
Have u ever tried to screw with the power pint x bits ? 😅 its a pain. Doable. But a pain.. use leatherman wrench bit
Agree! I'd rather use a proper screwdriver. ie Wera rapidator + Topeak :D
fix it sticks ratchet with locking hex drive and18 bit holder
fix it sticks are bulky and heavy. I'd take other lighter options over that.
Jesus Christ, did you take a line before recording.
The best compact bit driver setup is the icon. But judging by your logic on how you purchase tools, I can see how that isn’t in your radar.
But price for what you get and its utility. I’ve been down this rabbit hole and nothing compares
Here's an image as a response: ibb.co/GWFZhkv The Icon is good but I'd still give the edge to the others. But whatever is clever.
Sak Cybertool is literally the only answer
Based!! :D
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My thoughts exactly 😂
The autofocus was kind of annoying in this video
I can't win. My other audio equipment video had no auto-focus. This one has too much lel.
Before watching: Most compact setup is you take flat leatherman bits, add few normal bits (I prefer extended), stuff them all into small tin box. And on top of that you get small but classic handle like from wera. Because it is a pain to do any real work with ratchets or multitools. And you throw out any head bits because cobra can replace them all. As for small bits you take 1/4 to small bits adapter and stuff it into the same tin box
This video is outdated but today I'd just do Steinwhale bits. Leatherman bits imo have many issues for me to recommend them.
Classic handles don't work with Leatherman bits. It'll just slip out. ie they don't work on Wera. Also putting it in a tin box means you are losing efficiency, ie you are sifting through the box. The nice thing about the Steinwhale bits are that they're labeled. Or as an alternative, double-sided Wiha bits with PB Swissblocks are easy to see as well.
@@Dracomies slip out if some tork is applied?
I mean I've tested them on furniture screws and there was no issues. Maybe they slip with greater torque?
@@binariti What handle are you using with the Leatherman bits? On all I've tested (with the exception of maybe 1 or 2) it'll just fly out if you shake it a bit. Also many of the bits are straight up not compatible with Wera and I show this in my other vids.
@@Dracomies I've tested with Wera 813r
And while lock mechanism does not work the bit is still firmly fixed by magnet. There is a risk that when some torque applied it could turn inside the slot. But the handle is so small that it's hard to apply much torque.
So you've always had the Wiha micro driver set that you recently bought? You lost me there.
Sorry I worded that incorrectly in the video. I meant I had the mini set, not the full set.
@@Dracomies 😉
Prestacycle Fixit Sticks Pro
Those are heavy though. I know Maxleveldc likes them. But when you really think about it they're way too heavy. ie bits and Topeak are like 4 ounces whereas those are 8++ ounces.
Yeah, mine weighs 7.6 oz and gets carried in a belt organizer. I just really like the package. Used to carry an ARES 70040 (ratchet + inline is amazing, and a cut down Allen wrench is a perfect cheater bar) but it was a little too lightweight for my needs. The Screwpop Screwdriver was almost it. Random length of wood or pipe and I'd have enough mechanical advantage to be gentle while still generating a lot of torque. Bit management was too much of a nightmare. The Fixit Sticks aren't perfect, but it's a solid compact package. 18 bits. no extender needed. Dropped it from a ladder without everything exploding. Without the rubber holder though, yeah, wouldn't be worth it. And you're right, would like it more if it took double sided bits. @@Dracomies
I learn a lot from your video.
But.......please make less movements with your hand. It is terrible for the eyes watching 😊
Slow down man, give your words time to come out coherently! Ease off the bag.
Good review all the same.