So hilarious that hp washing is even a discussion. This is clearly a miscalculation in game design from 20 years ago and some people think this is a feature?? Obviously there wasnt that big of an outcry about this when players discovered this meta because Leafre, Horntail, Zakum was a top 5% player base problem, majority of the audience were teens and kids, and there wasnt a direct line of communication with the developers through social media at the time. Forums are a niche discussion board, which can be heavily moderated so that doesnt count.
@@WhiteMalay Personally, I also think HP Washing is wrong, but it wasn’t a miscalculation it was actually intentional by Wizet. The first player who discovered HP Washing was “지발돈좀,” and he mentioned that it wasn’t something you could do infinitely. If that had been possible, it would've caused serious issues. Plus, HP Washing was found before Leafre, and the devs knew about it when they created Leafre. Basically, they designed it so that if you didn’t HP Washing, you’d get one-shot killed in Leafre. pretty much as a way to get players to spend more money. That’s why most KMS players hate HP Washing. But I’ve noticed global private servers still use it, and they keep it because they see it as a feature. This got me curious about how global players feel about it. Even though it’s a small minority, there are still some people in KMS who want to play on “pure” servers where nothing’s changed. They argue that things like the under jump in Mapleland don’t fit the idea of a true “pure” server. Personally, I think some convenience features should be added. For example, with the limited space in MapleStory World (about 60 players per server), trading is really tough. So instead of sticking to “purity,” wouldn’t it make sense to add something like an auction house system, even if it didn’t exist pre-Big Bang?
@@GitGud깃굿 Wow, thanks for that knowledge drop! I personally think it seems gimmicky for HP washing to exist since it requires NX to do which unless its on a private server, generally means an irl cost just to access the end-game content. At that point it might not be fundamentally different from cubing. Personally the best way I've seen pservers handling this gap in HP required in the form of Custom Quest content, rewarding players with increased HP/MP as well as the addition of untradeable consumable items form lower level bosses that gives max HP. Why not turn a necessary but dull and irl money sink into more fun content that tells the player "These monsters over here are so powerful that the can one shot you, so you better grind to get tougher"
@@WhiteMalay Thanks for the comment! I’ve never played on a private server before, so I didn’t know custom quest content was a thing. But I know some pre-BB servers on KR MSW have a similar system where you can increase your max HP through monster collection. I just hope Global MSW can be as successful as KR MSW
I think what might happen is that there will be servers that will try to bank off of the HP Washing while other servers will find ways to implement increased HP or lower bossing damages if possible. If Maple Worlds continues, it will take years for an actual old-school server to rise among the rest but it hopefully be the one that everyone agrees with and enjoys
-Just make higher lvl quests give max HP as a reward. You gotta make them a lil bit of a challenge but nothing you can't do. Kill 1000 of this mob and blah blah whatever. Pick monsters people don't normally level on so you don't get the best exp per hour but you can now live from the end game bosses you want to kill. -Could also maybe introduce a crafting system with items that help give more HP or less damage taken from bosses. -The problem is that players want to do as much damage as possible with out giving up that damage, I understand. They could of just level with out putting into the main damage stat and put into HP BUT they rather wash to get more HP and do max damage. -Maybe make it so you don't add stats anymore and gear just needs level so your HP can grow to a level that you can live from the bosses naturally but then players will complain they are taking away from the core of the game because adding stats was part of the game. I am not a game dev so don't hate to much with my spit ball ideas with out me putting in any brain power
I completely agree with you I’m also worried that Global MSW might not have enough players, especially if people get split across different servers. It could really hurt the player base. Plus, like you mentioned, things like HP washing are a big turnoff for a lot of people. I just hope they can create a server that’s as successful as MapleLand in Korea, but honestly, I’m skeptical it’ll attract the same number of players, especially since the official launch is limited to the Americas for now.
As much as there is hype for a "Old school server with no changes" im worried that a completely untouched server will fizzle out or flop in the GMS market. KMS players are hardcores and more dedicated, GMS players are not. I feel some minor changes need to be made for it to be successful in the global market
@@BarVGC MapleStory World is a platform where players can create their own server or play on servers made by others. It’s like a big sandbox where you can design items, avatars, and even entire worlds. MapleLand is similar, but think of it as a fan-made version of pre bb MapleStory
My perfect maplestory version would be without RNG elements. Also no experience or drop boosting gear or scrolls. A game where you can save your meso to get an upgrade and you feel accomplished for the time you put into grinding for the currency. Modern maplestory feels like you do all this daily stuff to get meso just to flush it down the drain.
댓글 감사합니다 ! 사실상 메월 = 메렌 메렌= 넥슨이 운영하는 빅뱅전 메이플 이라고 알고계시는분들이 많으시더라구요 다들 기대하고 계신것같긴한데 저는 글로벌 메월이 성공할 가능성은 사실상 거의 없다고 봅니다 😢 우선 제대로된 서버를 만들수있을지는 둘째치고 한국처럼 OTP가 의무화될가능성이 없기때문에 핵+매크로는 사실상 판을칠거라서 예전 GMS 처럼 메소나 템시세는 미쳐나갈거라고 봅니다 ㅎㅎ;; 메이플랜드처럼 제대로 플레이할수있을거란 가능성은 매우 낮다고 생각하지만 그래도 재밌는 서버가 나왔으면 좋겠네요
@@Lucerions In MapleLand, Leafre hasn't been released yet, and doing HP washing is still impossible for now. However, in other channels of Maple World, such as Arteil, you can increase your maximum HP by using potions, and in Rona World, you can grow your maximum HP through Monster Collection. If Leafre or Horntail eventually comes to MapleLand, they will probably introduce a system to increase maximum HP as well. In the upcoming server in MSW global, I'm curious about how players will be able to increase their max HP
hi ehhh soo still no official old school maple server ? we would be playing on a fan made maple ? why dont we call them more and more private servers ??? o.oo
These servers will all be backed by nexon, which means more capacity to run higher player based servers with no issues. Thats the only difference compared to private servers. Thts why maple lands is able to run over 100k+ players
@@ExtraPainful No, Actually, content beyond the Leafre release can also be created in MSW. Servers like Rona World and Artale (other pre-BB MapleStory servers on MSW) have already developed Leafre and even 4th job advancements
You’ve got a sharp eye, haha. Actually, most of the videos are pretty old. In fact, I filmed from level 1 to 33 all in one day, but in the videos, it looks like it took a much longer time.
@@cafecafe3161 Here’s the recommended and minimum system requirements for MSW Recommended Specifications: • OS: Windows 10 64-bit • CPU: Intel Core i5 • HDD: 20GB or more free space • Memory: 8GB • Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 or Radeon HD6770 and above • DirectX: DX10 or higher Minimum Specifications: • OS: Windows 8 64-bit • CPU: Intel Core i3 • HDD: 5GB or more free space • Memory: 4GB • Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT or Radeon HD2400 and above • DirectX: DX10 or higher
@@GitGud깃굿 I watched your first video and was impressed with your English, its very proper. In my opinion your voice with subtitles feels more sincere :)
@@hariipoo There were some comments making fun of my pronunciation that I ended up deleting, so I thought using an AI voice might make my videos easier to watch. But I realized it’s better to work on my pronunciation and create videos with my own voice. From now on, I'll try to stick with my voice. Thanks for the kind comments!
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So hilarious that hp washing is even a discussion. This is clearly a miscalculation in game design from 20 years ago and some people think this is a feature?? Obviously there wasnt that big of an outcry about this when players discovered this meta because Leafre, Horntail, Zakum was a top 5% player base problem, majority of the audience were teens and kids, and there wasnt a direct line of communication with the developers through social media at the time. Forums are a niche discussion board, which can be heavily moderated so that doesnt count.
@@WhiteMalay Personally, I also think HP Washing is wrong, but it wasn’t a miscalculation
it was actually intentional by Wizet.
The first player who discovered HP Washing was “지발돈좀,” and he mentioned that it wasn’t something you could do infinitely. If that had been possible, it would've caused serious issues. Plus, HP Washing was found before Leafre, and the devs knew about it when they created Leafre.
Basically, they designed it so that if you didn’t HP Washing, you’d get one-shot killed in Leafre.
pretty much as a way to get players to spend more money.
That’s why most KMS players hate HP Washing. But I’ve noticed global private servers still use it, and they keep it because they see it as a feature.
This got me curious about how global players feel about it. Even though it’s a small minority, there are still some people in KMS who want to play on “pure” servers where nothing’s changed. They argue that things like the under jump in Mapleland don’t fit the idea of a true “pure” server.
Personally, I think some convenience features should be added. For example, with the limited space in MapleStory World (about 60 players per server), trading is really tough. So instead of sticking to “purity,” wouldn’t it make sense to add something like an auction house system, even if it didn’t exist pre-Big Bang?
@@GitGud깃굿 Wow, thanks for that knowledge drop! I personally think it seems gimmicky for HP washing to exist since it requires NX to do which unless its on a private server, generally means an irl cost just to access the end-game content. At that point it might not be fundamentally different from cubing.
Personally the best way I've seen pservers handling this gap in HP required in the form of Custom Quest content, rewarding players with increased HP/MP as well as the addition of untradeable consumable items form lower level bosses that gives max HP. Why not turn a necessary but dull and irl money sink into more fun content that tells the player "These monsters over here are so powerful that the can one shot you, so you better grind to get tougher"
@@WhiteMalay Thanks for the comment!
I’ve never played on a private server before, so I didn’t know custom quest content was a thing.
But I know some pre-BB servers on KR MSW have a similar system where you can increase your max HP through monster collection.
I just hope Global MSW can be as successful as KR MSW
AGREED
I think what might happen is that there will be servers that will try to bank off of the HP Washing while other servers will find ways to implement increased HP or lower bossing damages if possible. If Maple Worlds continues, it will take years for an actual old-school server to rise among the rest but it hopefully be the one that everyone agrees with and enjoys
-Just make higher lvl quests give max HP as a reward. You gotta make them a lil bit of a challenge but nothing you can't do. Kill 1000 of this mob and blah blah whatever.
Pick monsters people don't normally level on so you don't get the best exp per hour but you can now live from the end game bosses you want to kill.
-Could also maybe introduce a crafting system with items that help give more HP or less damage taken from bosses.
-The problem is that players want to do as much damage as possible with out giving up that damage, I understand. They could of just level with out putting into the main damage stat and put into HP BUT they rather wash to get more HP and do max damage.
-Maybe make it so you don't add stats anymore and gear just needs level so your HP can grow to a level that you can live from the bosses naturally but then players will complain they are taking away from the core of the game because adding stats was part of the game.
I am not a game dev so don't hate to much with my spit ball ideas with out me putting in any brain power
Hp washing was a bug .
Nexon let it be cuz they got millions from ap resets.
so true. its crazy.
I really hope there are enough players in MSW Global, I'm afraid that people may be split into different servers, and yeah HP washing is terrible
I completely agree with you
I’m also worried that Global MSW might not have enough players, especially if people get split across different servers.
It could really hurt the player base.
Plus, like you mentioned, things like HP washing are a big turnoff for a lot of people.
I just hope they can create a server that’s as successful as MapleLand in Korea, but honestly, I’m skeptical it’ll attract the same number of players, especially since the official launch is limited to the Americas for now.
As much as there is hype for a "Old school server with no changes" im worried that a completely untouched server will fizzle out or flop in the GMS market. KMS players are hardcores and more dedicated, GMS players are not. I feel some minor changes need to be made for it to be successful in the global market
i still didnt understand correctly whats maple worlds. is it like a relaunch of version 0.001? playing on global instead of private servers?
@@BarVGC MapleStory World is a platform where players can create their own server or play on servers made by others.
It’s like a big sandbox where you can design items, avatars, and even entire worlds.
MapleLand is similar, but think of it as a fan-made version of pre bb MapleStory
@@GitGud깃굿 mapleland is already launched ? Osm players can play it at the 16.10 alr?
If I can’t roll dice for my starter stats I don’t wanna play
have fun rolling for 3 hours trying to get perfect stats
@@Hiyooma trust me, I will.
Honestly I don’t need it to be perfect
My perfect maplestory version would be without RNG elements. Also no experience or drop boosting gear or scrolls.
A game where you can save your meso to get an upgrade and you feel accomplished for the time you put into grinding for the currency.
Modern maplestory feels like you do all this daily stuff to get meso just to flush it down the drain.
0:12 와 시작부터 딱 현실을 직시하고 있길래 뭔가 하고 첫영상 봤더니... 한국인이네.
요즘 메월 북미 넘어온다고 메랜할수있게 됬다고 근들갑 떨어대는 어메리칸 -메-유튜버들은 보고 배워라.
댓글 감사합니다 !
사실상 메월 = 메렌
메렌= 넥슨이 운영하는 빅뱅전 메이플
이라고 알고계시는분들이 많으시더라구요
다들 기대하고 계신것같긴한데
저는 글로벌 메월이 성공할 가능성은 사실상 거의 없다고 봅니다 😢
우선 제대로된 서버를 만들수있을지는 둘째치고
한국처럼 OTP가 의무화될가능성이 없기때문에
핵+매크로는 사실상 판을칠거라서 예전 GMS 처럼 메소나 템시세는 미쳐나갈거라고 봅니다 ㅎㅎ;;
메이플랜드처럼 제대로 플레이할수있을거란 가능성은 매우 낮다고 생각하지만
그래도 재밌는 서버가 나왔으면 좋겠네요
Does maplelands have hp washing? From i understand it's not a factor in maplelands and people are still doing end game content
@@Lucerions In MapleLand, Leafre hasn't been released yet, and doing HP washing is still impossible for now. However, in other channels of Maple World, such as Arteil, you can increase your maximum HP by using potions, and in Rona World, you can grow your maximum HP through Monster Collection.
If Leafre or Horntail eventually comes to MapleLand, they will probably introduce a system to increase maximum HP as well.
In the upcoming server in MSW global, I'm curious about how players will be able to increase their max HP
hi ehhh soo still no official old school maple server ? we would be playing on a fan made maple ? why dont we call them more and more private servers ??? o.oo
These servers will all be backed by nexon, which means more capacity to run higher player based servers with no issues. Thats the only difference compared to private servers. Thts why maple lands is able to run over 100k+ players
Question, so the available assists for Maple Worlds are everything up to before Leafre’s release?
@@ExtraPainful
No,
Actually, content beyond the Leafre release can also be created in MSW. Servers like Rona World and Artale (other pre-BB MapleStory servers on MSW) have already developed Leafre and even 4th job advancements
@@ExtraPainful Anything is possible on MSW. In fact, Mapleland has even released overseas maps that were never implemented in KMS
0:58 hold on when did you reach level 63???
You’ve got a sharp eye, haha. Actually, most of the videos are pretty old. In fact, I filmed from level 1 to 33 all in one day, but in the videos, it looks like it took a much longer time.
or just keep playing private servers
Do you know what requirements it requires for the PC?
@@cafecafe3161 Here’s the recommended and minimum system requirements for MSW
Recommended Specifications:
• OS: Windows 10 64-bit
• CPU: Intel Core i5
• HDD: 20GB or more free space
• Memory: 8GB
• Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 650 or Radeon HD6770 and above
• DirectX: DX10 or higher
Minimum Specifications:
• OS: Windows 8 64-bit
• CPU: Intel Core i3
• HDD: 5GB or more free space
• Memory: 4GB
• Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT or Radeon HD2400 and above
• DirectX: DX10 or higher
@@cafecafe3161 You can find more detailed information on this website.
maplestoryworlds.nexon.com/ko/notice/1858454
@@GitGud깃굿 thanks bro
Party game, bring a dk
Did you use an AI voice? Lol
@@ExtraPainful Yeah, I did! It’s my secret weapon for perfect pronunciation. No more 'What did you say?' moments! XD
@@GitGud깃굿lazy guy
@@adeelrahman D:
@@GitGud깃굿 I watched your first video and was impressed with your English, its very proper. In my opinion your voice with subtitles feels more sincere :)
@@hariipoo There were some comments making fun of my pronunciation that I ended up deleting,
so I thought using an AI voice might make my videos easier to watch.
But I realized it’s better to work on my pronunciation and create videos with my own voice.
From now on, I'll try to stick with my voice. Thanks for the kind comments!