I would say that the C8 and C7 look somewhat similar from the front. When I'm driving my C8 which I'm used to looking at and approach a C7 GS or Z06 in the opposite direction, they briefly look like a C8 until they get closer.
4:40 I’m with you right there. The Mustang is the only muscle car left standing. I’m not sure why it’s considered as a sports car, it’s still a pony car like it was back in the day.
But the mustang comes with a manual transmission. My brother prefers a Corvette but after every single time he drives my mustang he tells me he hates how the new Corvette doesn't have a manual transmission.
@@comicrandomness3289the C8 is a whole different level car, my friend has a 24 Dark horse with a manual and he's now wanting to trade his for a C8....
awesome video, man, i love my 1993 black on black lt1 c4 corvette 🖤 bought it for just over 8 GRAND, have put less than 3 grand into it including 1k tires, incredible car in every way, looks so beautiful 😻🖤, handles INCREDIBLY, fast from factory, chevy didn’t miss with the c4 😻
I actually had this exact consideration recently. My C7 Z06 was stolen in April. My settlement from my insurance company wasn't enough to get me back into a Z06 without borrowing money which I didn't want to do. So I considered a few Mustang models (Dark Horse, Mach 1) and the Grand Sport. I went with a 2019 Grand Sport. No regrets. The Z06 was a whole other animal and I am heartbroken to lose that car. But the GS is a nice consolation prize.
Thank you Joe for another amazing video and the camera man as well sorry I am a massive stroke survivor and can’t recall his name at this second but he always does a good job Thanks for showing a real corvette again man
Absolutely beautiful Corvette ! ---- I don't know about (BETTER) in performance but the C7 Corvette is probably Better from the (more fun to drive) catagory and will probably get you a lot more looks from the girls as you cruise the streets on Saturday Night ! There are literally tons of Mustangs out there so even a MustangGT is just another Mustang out on the street. JMO !
I drive a Skyline R34, first time i saw a c7 was while i was living in Japan in 2021. Since then i decided i'm buying a C7 once i move to States. And yeah i want a Grand Sport C7, and i have watched all your C7 videos multiple times. Best reviewer 💯💯💯
Thank you, Joe! I LOVE me some Corvettes, especially the C7. You mentioned having a smile on your face as you drove that car. Hell, I had a smile on my face just watching this video of you driving this car. I can only imagine how ecstatic and grateful I’ll be when I join the ranks of Corvette owners 😎
I love the C7. The style is nearly a decade old, if not already a decade old. The design still holds up after all that time. The problem with getting them right now is that you can’t find many low mileage ones(sub 15k), the prices are a little on the unreasonable side, and used car rates are absolutely horrid. I’d love to get a Grand Sport 2LT or 3LT, but $75k+ is ridiculous for a 5+ year old car. That engine sound is phenomenal. I wish things were different :/
Holy smoke you were flying brother, that blew my mind! I have a C4 Corvette but i am going to start looking for a C7 for my small collection. Give me a Corvette before any other car,
I had a C4, consider the C6 its an awesome car and it’s one of the few that got away from me and good luck with whatever you decide, C6 and C7 are both awesome.
@@thomasfarley6052 definitely go in on a c7, if u want a REAL race car go for the c6, much cheaper and easier to build on, if u want a beautiful cruiser race car, buy a c7, my most beloved vette is a c4, i own one 🖤, and my favorite vette is the c7 for sure, it’s so fucken beautiful
Great review Joe Amazing generation of the Corvette . Car sounds amazing, convertible is a nice option And I agree the golf clubs go in the Caddy XT5 😂
C 7 Grandsport all day! The only way I’d ever get a Ford product if I mistakenly won one. If I did I’d promptly take to a Chevy dealer or sell it and get a Corvette!
I was considering C7s and C8s, but ended up really enjoying the Dark Horse and went with that. My wife and I are looking forward to celebrating our 10-Year Anniversary at the Dark Horse Track Attack. Can’t wait!!!
Bought a 2015 C7 3LT in 2019 for $37K with 50K miles on it. 2 years later prices were crazy for all used cars but the C7 prices were like 30-60% higher and I sold it to Carmax for $39K. Still regret that but I had my fun and then bought an suv for more practicality. When prices for C7 grand sports drop into the mid to low $40Ks might have to grab another.
I bought a used 2016 Z51 C7 convertible with 7 speed manual a couple of years ago (with magnetic ride damper option, blacked out wheels & carbon fiber package). I also considered a new 2023 Mustang which I’ve also been a fan of but after driving was really no comparison. The Vette is much more of a special experience to drive & own.
That Long Beach Red color is a beauty in the direct sun! Looks best with the white Zo6 taillights and carbon fiber rear spoiler on the back side. The vette has better balance than the Mustang... too bad that wasn’t a manual though.
When you shop c7 if you go for the manual not only your getting the best version but from recent trends your saving quite a bit of money over the automatic as fewer people know how to even drive a stick anymore
I got me a 2019 GS in blue auto transmission wanted it in manual but kept it for the wife to drive sometimes. I’m so addicted to it I can’t get enough of it. I so scared and creeping to another one why did u see the Naturally aspirated C7R GT3 edition in 2017 oh my goodness, literally been dreaming of a GTR all my life but this one came and sweeeeeped me off me feet man there’s no looking back
I own a 2017 black grand sport manual Joe. I've driven a 2023 mustang gt. The vette is WAY better. Getting a c8 zo6 soon. Corvettes rule with the handling and looks.
Nice car great video Joe. Ive had 3 corvettes. 1972 stock 350 balboa blue convertible with a 4 speed. Loved the car. Bought a 1980 t top canary yellow with a 5 speed trans. nice car and lots of power. My l;ast corvette was a 2001 ocean blue metallic convertible w a 6 speed trans. Loved that car kept it for 3 years and sold it with 2850 miles on it. it was so new and clean you could eat off it. Recently treated myself to a brand new vapoir blue 2024 Mustang GT premium with active valve exhaust package and 486 horses. Has a manual 6 speed. Its a beast on the road, but i only average 10.7 mpg due to my heavy foot, but i still miss my corvettes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a 2019 GS, but I mainly drive it in manual...if it's in auto I have the module that keeps AFM from activating. But yes, I hate that AFM is even an issue lol
Hey Joe I got a question for you. I no you got a C4 corvette. You told the story how the C4 was your first car. My question is why did you not get a C7 corvette. I feel like it looks better than a C4 corvette and I know that it’s a lot faster and it do comes in a manual shift. Thank you Joe for a great review keep up the good work 👍🏾😀
If I wasn't such a legend, and didn't own the C7 Z06, in Velocity Yellow Tintcoat, "The Hero Car", with a 7-speed manual, I would consider the Gran Sport. It is an acceptable choice, unless you're me.
Great video Joe! I traded my C7 for a C8. If you are going auto get a C8 the dual clutch is amazing….I did miss my manual so I bought myself a manual C7. I am very fortunate to have both!
And to me it doesn't matter whare the engine is at in the car but I like Thom to be in the back I on my 2014 2ss camaro red got my engine in the backi love that car
That was a great video, Joe. I love the 2019 Grand Sport. I would prefer a 6 speed manual. I have a question. Can you update the infotainment system? Happy Fourth of July to you and your family.
Hate the C8.....probably the only guy in the world with that opinion. Looking to pick up a 2018/19 C7 Grand Sport coupe and drive it till the wheels come off!!!! My first car was a Mustang at age 19..... so still think the Mustang is a boy's car. Would by a Camaro SS before I would buy a Muatang. Love the Grand Sport!!!! Great job Joe!!!!
2:24 - never say never! There will for sure be an EV Corvette with a front engine (and a rear too). But first and foremost, it will again have the proper proportions and the (iconic ;) Vette's long bonnet! At least, I hope so...
Id Rather Have A New Used Mustang GT Premium & Mustang GT Premium California Special Edition!!! 2019 Corvette Campares To The Ford Mustang GT Premium In American Muscle Sports Cars !!! American Muscle Mustang GT Premium & 2019 Corvette Grand Sport Are Absolutely Awesome Joe!!! Most Definitely Hear The V8 Rumble In The C7 Corvette & Mustang GT Premium 👌!!! You Gotta Love ❤️ American Muscle Sports Cars!!! Cool 😎 Cool 😎 Ruby Red Metalic C7 Corvette!!!
When he said the corvette or mustang I said no the corvette or Camaro I should say a zl1 or a zo6 that is what I should get both but if I had to choose between thes to cars I would get the zo6
A Corvette that looks like a Corvette, just take my money.
I would say that the C8 and C7 look somewhat similar from the front. When I'm driving my C8 which I'm used to looking at and approach a C7 GS or Z06 in the opposite direction, they briefly look like a C8 until they get closer.
@@johnnyparker2128nah a c8 is a knockoff ferrari
I know how you feel
@@G82Wattshey, it’s ok to be a hater. I get it all the time and smile as I rev the engine 😊
@johnnyparker2128 He actually complimented it if you think about it. Who wouldn't want to imitate a Ferrari? 😋
I’m a simple man and I see joe reviewing a c7 corvette. Save the manuals.
I like the way you do things!
2016 C7 corvette owner with 100k. I put 90k on it in 5 years I can't stop driving this amazing vehicle. I haven't had any issues.
Should have never traded it on a C8. Miss my manual
The C7 is an awesome generation of Corvette! And to answer the question, I’d say the ‘Vette is definitely better than the 2024 Mustang!
4:40 I’m with you right there. The Mustang is the only muscle car left standing. I’m not sure why it’s considered as a sports car, it’s still a pony car like it was back in the day.
But the mustang comes with a manual transmission. My brother prefers a Corvette but after every single time he drives my mustang he tells me he hates how the new Corvette doesn't have a manual transmission.
@comicrandomness3289 we're comparing the c7 to the mustang, not the c8
@@comicrandomness3289the C8 is a whole different level car, my friend has a 24 Dark horse with a manual and he's now wanting to trade his for a C8....
awesome video, man, i love my 1993 black on black lt1 c4 corvette 🖤 bought it for just over 8 GRAND, have put less than 3 grand into it including 1k tires, incredible car in every way, looks so beautiful 😻🖤, handles INCREDIBLY, fast from factory, chevy didn’t miss with the c4 😻
1:56 The C6 is my ultimate favorite of Corvette. It’s so iconic, and the 2006 Z06 is my favorite car!
My favorite as well
I have a print of this car finally. How do you feel about Velocity Yellow?
Mine is the C5 I love the style with the pop-up headlights.
Yeah you have to watch his C6 Z06 review of ours! It's a 2006 with 600whp!
@@EmVeeMediaYT I’ve seen it and it was amazing!
"If you rather have an EV, I don't know if we can be friends." Boom! love that line!
What timing. Was just looking at a C7 today. It’s like you knew, Joe.
It is really meant to be
buy it
I actually had this exact consideration recently. My C7 Z06 was stolen in April. My settlement from my insurance company wasn't enough to get me back into a Z06 without borrowing money which I didn't want to do. So I considered a few Mustang models (Dark Horse, Mach 1) and the Grand Sport. I went with a 2019 Grand Sport. No regrets. The Z06 was a whole other animal and I am heartbroken to lose that car. But the GS is a nice consolation prize.
Hope you got a new insurance company ❤
Wow, I’m sorry that happened, but I’m glad you’re happy with your GS 😎
Thank you Joe for another amazing video and the camera man as well sorry I am a massive stroke survivor and can’t recall his name at this second but he always does a good job Thanks for showing a real corvette again man
Such a cool car love your videos man
I’m so glad you love these Nick
I looove the crack of that 8 speed snapping off gears! This vette is a beauty.
Absolutely beautiful Corvette ! ---- I don't know about (BETTER) in performance but the C7 Corvette is probably Better from the (more fun to drive) catagory and will probably get you a lot more looks from the girls as you cruise the streets on Saturday Night ! There are literally tons of Mustangs out there so even a MustangGT is just another Mustang out on the street. JMO !
Great input as always!
My 2019 Grand Sport is the last of the "classic" Corvettes (front engine/rear drive) and I love it!
the way it was meant to be!
That transmission is shifting beautifully...
I drive a Skyline R34, first time i saw a c7 was while i was living in Japan in 2021. Since then i decided i'm buying a C7 once i move to States. And yeah i want a Grand Sport C7, and i have watched all your C7 videos multiple times. Best reviewer 💯💯💯
C7 still one of my favorite corvettes of all time, especially the stingray’s
Same here for sure!
Love my C7 and C5, long live FE Corvettes!
I’d kill to have both my C5 and a C7. Unfortunately, my wife would never let me get away with it 😢
I have 2019 GS. Black coupe with chrome wheels. This car gets so much attention every time I drive it. Love the performance, sound and the 23 MPG!!!
Thank you, Joe! I LOVE me some Corvettes, especially the C7. You mentioned having a smile on your face as you drove that car. Hell, I had a smile on my face just watching this video of you driving this car. I can only imagine how ecstatic and grateful I’ll be when I join the ranks of Corvette owners 😎
I love the C7. The style is nearly a decade old, if not already a decade old. The design still holds up after all that time. The problem with getting them right now is that you can’t find many low mileage ones(sub 15k), the prices are a little on the unreasonable side, and used car rates are absolutely horrid. I’d love to get a Grand Sport 2LT or 3LT, but $75k+ is ridiculous for a 5+ year old car. That engine sound is phenomenal. I wish things were different :/
75k😳 you can definitely find them in the high 50s low 60s with relatively low miles😊
They will be different, RAD, come the election.
Try Carfax. There’s alot of C7’s on there at reasonable prices.
@@travisdurham29 relatively low meaning less than 40k miles is what I’ve seen for that range
Holy smoke you were flying brother, that blew my mind! I have a C4 Corvette but i am going to start looking for a C7 for my small collection. Give me a Corvette before any other car,
I had a C4, consider the C6 its an awesome car and it’s one of the few that got away from me and good luck with whatever you decide, C6 and C7 are both awesome.
@@mxtv1258 Thank you man, i have had three C4 corvettes. The C5 Corvettes are tempting because of price, but the C6 and C7 are on the radar.
@@thomasfarley6052 definitely go in on a c7, if u want a REAL race car go for the c6, much cheaper and easier to build on, if u want a beautiful cruiser race car, buy a c7, my most beloved vette is a c4, i own one 🖤, and my favorite vette is the c7 for sure, it’s so fucken beautiful
@@alexthejew420 Thank you brother
When Radi was a sophomore in college, a corvette was a wooden ship.....Keep up the great vids👍
That color and being a convertible ❤ Perfect for a PCH drive. Awesome Joe
I like the way that you think!
Yes, the Pacific Coast Highway.
I could listen to you showcase that C7 Grand Sport sexiness all day!!
I like the way that you think!
Raiti this is probably one of your best reviews yet I too am a Corvette lover I own a 99 FRC 6sp black with 29,600 original miles !!
That is so awesome of you to say Matt! You have a keeper on your hands.
Great review Joe
Amazing generation of the Corvette . Car sounds amazing, convertible is a nice option
And I agree the golf clubs go in the Caddy XT5 😂
C 7 Grandsport all day! The only way I’d ever get a Ford product if I mistakenly won one. If I did I’d promptly take to a Chevy dealer or sell it and get a Corvette!
Like a Corvette, it's a masterpiece, love your review Joe, good job, hello from your subscriber in Indonesia 🎉
I was considering C7s and C8s, but ended up really enjoying the Dark Horse and went with that. My wife and I are looking forward to celebrating our 10-Year Anniversary at the Dark Horse Track Attack. Can’t wait!!!
Absolutely loved this video !! Just bought a 2017 Grand Sport convertible with 6,000 miles
That is so fantastic to hear! You bought a keeper!
as an owner of a c7 grand sport M7 partially because of your channel i approve of this message
It's much better proportioned than the current Corvette. My favorite is the 69 Corvette.
Have a '17 grand sport. I absolutely love it!! had a c8 and I feel like the c7 is better to me personally
Bought a 2015 C7 3LT in 2019 for $37K with 50K miles on it. 2 years later prices were crazy for all used cars but the C7 prices were like 30-60% higher and I sold it to Carmax for $39K. Still regret that but I had my fun and then bought an suv for more practicality. When prices for C7 grand sports drop into the mid to low $40Ks might have to grab another.
They are not going to drop in price, 447. The FE Vette is more desirable for most.
Corvette for sure, no Mustang. Love your enthusiasm Joe 🙏👍🏻
Thanks for letting me share it with you Mikey
I bought a used 2016 Z51 C7 convertible with 7 speed manual a couple of years ago (with magnetic ride damper option, blacked out wheels & carbon fiber package). I also considered a new 2023 Mustang which I’ve also been a fan of but after driving was really no comparison. The Vette is much more of a special experience to drive & own.
Looking forward to your video on the zr1!
Yes of course Joe & I will buy this car 1 day.
That Long Beach Red color is a beauty in the direct sun! Looks best with the white Zo6 taillights and carbon fiber rear spoiler on the back side. The vette has better balance than the Mustang... too bad that wasn’t a manual though.
Keep up the great reviews! Especially the food fitment in each cars interior storage. Love those Twinkies comments! Lol
Amazing! great work. thanks!
You are so very welcome
Love the C7 been looking at thoses and a Hellcat Red eye. Wish I could afford both.
When you shop c7 if you go for the manual not only your getting the best version but from recent trends your saving quite a bit of money over the automatic as fewer people know how to even drive a stick anymore
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
Wasn't the first GS introduced in 1963??
1:13 my best friend Carl Hocker owns a 1976 Stingray in midnight blue with a custom license plates M1DN1TE
Maybe that is a must to have one 🤣 of these in the collection at least and drive it so often ✌️🏼🤞🏼
“If you wanna own an EV, I don’t know if we can be friends” thank you for the mic drop!
As an older, retired man with a dad bod I can say with certainty that this is a car you'd use to pull the hot women in. LOL
Oh hell yes!
Yes, the golddiggers that are only after your bank account
I pull women with my body and my personality 😂
@@claudiozedda3141I just pull them in with my personality. My body is too far gone now 😝
Also, I still turn alot of heads with my Nasaau Blue 1998 C5. Unfortunately they are mostly dudes. 🫤
I got me a 2019 GS in blue auto transmission wanted it in manual but kept it for the wife to drive sometimes. I’m so addicted to it I can’t get enough of it. I so scared and creeping to another one why did u see the Naturally aspirated C7R GT3 edition in 2017 oh my goodness, literally been dreaming of a GTR all my life but this one came and sweeeeeped me off me feet man there’s no looking back
That is so wonderful to hear!
That 6.2 Sounds good to me!
Especially at each shift!
I own a 2017 black grand sport manual Joe. I've driven a 2023 mustang gt. The vette is WAY better. Getting a c8 zo6 soon. Corvettes rule with the handling and looks.
Really like a GS. Great lookin vette and for the money still a lot of car. Just my 2 poops
Nice car great video Joe. Ive had 3 corvettes. 1972 stock 350 balboa blue convertible with a 4 speed. Loved the car. Bought a 1980 t top canary yellow with a 5 speed trans. nice car and lots of power. My l;ast corvette was a 2001 ocean blue metallic convertible w a 6 speed trans. Loved that car kept it for 3 years and sold it with 2850 miles on it. it was so new and clean you could eat off it. Recently treated myself to a brand new vapoir blue 2024 Mustang GT premium with active valve exhaust package and 486 horses. Has a manual 6 speed. Its a beast on the road, but i only average 10.7 mpg due to my heavy foot, but i still miss my corvettes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Man you have a great taste in cars.
How did you get a 1980 with a 5-Speed? There has never been a Corvette made with a 5-Speed. 😮
Love It! Thanks for the review!
As always great content 👍🍀Thx
Been waiting on this one 🔥🔥
Amazing review Joe.
C-6 guy, here!
I’m right there with you
Yep, RED Grand Sport 6M, I don't know how it could get better!
That dude was ripping beatin on that shit haha
Raiti can drive
How bad is the AFM (active fuel management) lifter failure on the ‘19 model 6.2 engine?
I have a 2019 GS, but I mainly drive it in manual...if it's in auto I have the module that keeps AFM from activating. But yes, I hate that AFM is even an issue lol
Hey Joe I got a question for you. I no you got a C4 corvette. You told the story how the C4 was your first car. My question is why did you not get a C7 corvette. I feel like it looks better than a C4 corvette and I know that it’s a lot faster and it do comes in a manual shift. Thank you Joe for a great review keep up the good work 👍🏾😀
A C4 is awesome and it’s a throwback in time, but not too far back.
If I wasn't such a legend, and didn't own the C7 Z06, in Velocity Yellow Tintcoat, "The Hero Car", with a 7-speed manual, I would consider the Gran Sport. It is an acceptable choice, unless you're me.
Nothing beats a C7. The last raw and good looking corvette. C8 looks too much like an Italian sports car
How is that a bad thing!??!
Great video Joe! I traded my C7 for a C8. If you are going auto get a C8 the dual clutch is amazing….I did miss my manual so I bought myself a manual C7. I am very fortunate to have both!
Indeed you are, Dave.
The C8 was necessary and its a hit BUT the sound of that C7 will never go out of style....thanks Joe.
You are so very welcome Mike!
I personally like C7 more than C6 or C8 front.
Hey Joe that is a beautiful Corvette
Both are so nice.
So far so good.
Heck yeah Manuel
2019 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Grand Sport 1LT RWD Convertible!
And to me it doesn't matter whare the engine is at in the car but I like Thom to be in the back I on my 2014 2ss camaro red got my engine in the backi love that car
Was looking at a similar 2011 last month…….I like the round tail lights 👍. Didn’t buy it ! Thanks Joe ! And Steven !!
I love the C6 Corvettes
That was a great video, Joe. I love the 2019 Grand Sport. I would prefer a 6 speed manual. I have a question. Can you update the infotainment system? Happy Fourth of July to you and your family.
U can do anything u want , it’s old tech nothing new lol
Hate the C8.....probably the only guy in the world with that opinion. Looking to pick up a 2018/19 C7 Grand Sport coupe and drive it till the wheels come off!!!! My first car was a Mustang at age 19..... so still think the Mustang is a boy's car. Would by a Camaro SS before I would buy a Muatang. Love the Grand Sport!!!! Great job Joe!!!!
Don't forget the original Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sports, 1963, for racing.
love that car but I prefer the hard top and yes I'd throw golf clubs in that bad boy and park next to the 911s at the club....
Best color too
Hey Joe, great video. Do you have a date for the next live Q&A?
It will be happening later this month Sean
@RaitisRides awesome. Thanks for the response. My wife and I will be watching.
I love the C7 too, not a fan of the C8
Gorgeous color.
Love your car video
Thanks for always being here!
@@RaitisRides Welcome
@@DominionAnako-bb7ryyou are the best
2:24 - never say never! There will for sure be an EV Corvette with a front engine (and a rear too). But first and foremost, it will again have the proper proportions and the (iconic ;) Vette's long bonnet! At least, I hope so...
The gs is the sweet spot
Id Rather Have A New Used Mustang GT Premium & Mustang GT Premium California Special Edition!!! 2019 Corvette Campares To The Ford Mustang GT Premium In American Muscle Sports Cars !!! American Muscle Mustang GT Premium & 2019 Corvette Grand Sport Are Absolutely Awesome Joe!!! Most Definitely Hear The V8 Rumble In The C7 Corvette & Mustang GT Premium 👌!!! You Gotta Love ❤️ American Muscle Sports Cars!!! Cool 😎 Cool 😎 Ruby Red Metalic C7 Corvette!!!
makes a lot of fun to drive it sporty with cold tires and in the rain 😀
This is so very true if you have the skills.
Corvette anyday #1
I wish GM had kept the C7 profile. Made the body from aluminum and put an Audi level interior in it. I don't like the C8
I'm a simple man
I see Joe, a front engine Vette, i click
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Happy 4th, sir, Happy 4th of July!!!
Same to you my friend!
Compared to the C6 Z06... It's kinda meh. Extra weight and not the same power. I may be biased tho. 🤷🏼♂️🤜🤛 Another great review Joe!
I cannot think of a more appropriate project car to compete in Gridlife. Minor upgrades your favorite buckets and go.
Now we are talking!
the c4 ,the c6 and the c7 zr1 are the greatest vette ever but still love the GS.
Amen my friend!
Can't beat the classics
what’s the difference between sting ray and grand sport?
😊
Definitely is unless someone has problems getting in and out of the lower Vette.
Yes to that
I love C7 Vettes. Too bad the vette market in Canada is so high, out of my price range right now
That is sad! Fingers crossed it comes down soon.
When he said the corvette or mustang I said no the corvette or Camaro I should say a zl1 or a zo6 that is what I should get both but if I had to choose between thes to cars I would get the zo6