HP Elitebook 8570p - Is this the laptop you need in 2020?

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  • @truerollers
    @truerollers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have one, it had the i5, it now has the same i7 as this one. Also upgraded the screen to a 1080p screen. 16GB RAM, SSD, removed optical drive and installed a second HDD. It's been a beast for generic work, internet use, and watching videos. Even do some Premiere work on it and it it does well.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, I don't mind those machines even though I'm not a big HP fanboi.

    • @truerollers
      @truerollers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MikeDancy I suppose I'm an HP fanboi (when it comes to prebuilt... I mean, custom is always number 1) and I'm also partial to the 9470m from the same period.

  • @sanyang66
    @sanyang66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought this laptop, used, 4 years ago - 12GB RAM 1 TB Storage. Not a single problem to date! I mostly use it for work but It can handle a few good games. I can run Sims 4, Counter Strike and GTA 5 at low settings. Newer games not so much. It is really bulky, so a chore to carry around and does not really look too impressive next to the sleek thin models at work. But it is very reliable in my experience.

    • @ifeanyifred4008
      @ifeanyifred4008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can I play gta 5 on it with 16gb ram

  • @aT-kd5ve
    @aT-kd5ve ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you do get one with a dedicated graphics card, and you purchase this for around 150 USD. Well then what you have is a budget gaming laptop. And you're also 2012 rich because these were expensive when released.

  • @howardharris4718
    @howardharris4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes Hp 8570p elite laptop i love it very hard working i7 cpu quad core 16GB ram 480GB solid state drive .I love my laptop with a little bit more weight.

  • @shannonrhoads7099
    @shannonrhoads7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one of these I bought and upgraded with an SSD and some extra RAM over time. I also have a USB soundbar, as I found the built in speakers abyssmal. I used it for the entirety of my paralegal 2 year program, as well as to watch DVDs and stream videos. I payed $350 USD BUT got a package that came with the laptop, battery, charger, an HP branded USB mouse and keyboard and the docking station!

  • @KalPetkoffJangoz
    @KalPetkoffJangoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love HP Elitebooks! I have 3x 8570W, 1x 8560W, 1x 8770W on its way to me.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think there is a support group you can goto to cure the addiction.

    • @KalPetkoffJangoz
      @KalPetkoffJangoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MikeDancy I've created a Facebook group called "HP Elitebook Owners Lounge". Feel free to join and share anything Elitebooks. :)

    • @bewolfzr9969
      @bewolfzr9969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KalPetkoffJangoz your group is just want I was searching for I have an 2570p and want to upgrade the cpu from i7-3520M to i7-3632qm and don't know if someone already done it and if it would work

    • @NeverWoken
      @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bewolfzr9969 2570 is an awesome little Elitebook.

  • @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413
    @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just placed an order for the 8570p, i definitely got a very nice one. It has the 3720QM processor, i love the bulky heavy laptops. I own two, HP intel core i7 3820QM processor 8570W laptops. HP don't build them like that no more, those where in my option. The very best laptops, a real gem.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, it's a bulky machine that feels solid. I also have a 8460 i7 that I've been reviewing. I plan on keeping it since it's so comfy to type in and still pretty powerful even though it's 10 years old. Plus Linux helps :)

    • @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413
      @dr.leonardhofstadtersavage6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MikeDancy yes the island style keyboards i love to, they are built nice and solid. When i got my first 8570w, i was like wow! This is such a very good laptop. I brought another one. I just loved how powerful it was, i was so impressed with it, i brought the 8570p. After i read the specs, i tell you. When HP built the Professional, and the Elitebook series. Those where some very high quality laptops, the best i ever seen for sure. It's just very sad, that HP doesn't build quality laptops like that no more. Im keeping mine for a long time. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @geraldvandermerwe8831
    @geraldvandermerwe8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Mike just a correction on the sim card. You have to remove the battery then you get the sim card slot at the back inside the battery bay. Have my old 8570P from 2013 and only issue picked up is with the CPU cooling heatsink. I gave my daughter my new 18 month old HP and back to my "prehistoric" 8570p. Just much smoother than the new one running up to nine open apps at a time with 16Gb memory.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you. It's such a nice machine. I have another one that I'm not sure what to do with yet.

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mine is not working. The screen is completely black but I hear the fans and everything running. I tried and external monitor but it says input not recognized. I tried swapping RAM with other spares and still not working. I tried changing the CMOS battery and still not good. Where is the graphics card for this? I think it may be it but I do not know where it is.

  • @diegorambo2569
    @diegorambo2569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Above the smart card reader there is an Express Card slot u can use it for external EGPU Grafikcard ; )
    I love this laptop
    I use this laptop with 16GB Ram
    and i7 3740QM
    Cleaning and upgrade is super easy ^ ^

  • @Adam130694
    @Adam130694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s not PCMCIA, that’s Express Card port (USB3 ports, eGPU etc.)

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PCMCIA! People can’t memorize computer interface acronyms!

    • @Adam130694
      @Adam130694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MikeDancy you can plug eGPU to that (EXP GDC)

  • @dlawlis
    @dlawlis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a refurbed one 4 years ago. Spilled soda on it a year later but it's still going strong.

  • @ChrisTopher-xu2dh
    @ChrisTopher-xu2dh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very comprehensive video! I was thinking about purchasing one of these but I don’t think it fits my needs. Thanks!

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @cassandraalvarez5464
    @cassandraalvarez5464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to know how to factory reset this computer cuz I forgot the password

  • @Technologies-review
    @Technologies-review 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HP Elitebook 8570p Processor Upgrade Intel Core i7 Extreme 2960XM th-cam.com/video/IuyxxVDmqKM/w-d-xo.html

  • @yearofthegarden
    @yearofthegarden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got one of these when I was desperate, mine came with a radeon graphics card which gave me the needed display port to run my cintiq for digital art. This thing worked great, and at very low voltage, granted mine is an i5-3something. Great little computer considering I got it for $150 refurbished. I eventually upgraded to a budget computer, but I miss having a janky little computer, and am down grading back to this laptop until I get a optiplex 9020sff setup to be my digital art station. The best thing about this lap top is the keypad, because I love using it while doing excel sheets, and even better is it cannot play games, because otherwise that's all I'll ever do.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are nice machines. I have a Optiplex SFF 9020 here, I haven’t figured out what to do with it yet.

    • @ifeanyifred4008
      @ifeanyifred4008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U mean it cannot play games🙂
      Like gta 5 or something

  • @NeverWoken
    @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the little space on the front is for the bluetooth module, if you do not have one built in to the wifi card.
    The Sim slot is in the battery compartment

  • @InsaneFire10YT
    @InsaneFire10YT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have this laptop too however unfortunately ive been having various problems with it, mostly with thermal throttling/shutdowns
    worst of all recently it does not even turn on. The lights come on but no screen or any sign of life of the CPU doing anything, just the hum of the fan and thats about it. Ive tried doing BIOS recovery via a USB flash drive and it worked but about 2 months later and the same issue came back and i tried the same method and now it does not work. any solutions?

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you need to take it into a computer shop. It could be failed thermal paste between the processor and the cooling tube.

    • @Das0000
      @Das0000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same same same. The same problem. How did you solved it. I would be so so happy to hear how did you solved it. Please when you have time type it here.

  • @erenyeager2868
    @erenyeager2868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    purchaed 2 years ago at 200 doller best purchased and first refurbished purchased in my life
    glade my friends suggested that for me

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it’s a great laptop

  • @nathleflutiste
    @nathleflutiste 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an 8560p, I've upgraded its motherboard to a 8570p of this model (686970-001). Nearly everything is compatible, except for the processor (Sandy to Ivy), and the daughter board that provide the audio port and the two usb port on the right side). Work great, especially with a I7 quadcore. On Aliepress finding part at very good price is easy ! (way more than Amazon).

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I7 quad. Sounds nice.

  • @sitricmusic5963
    @sitricmusic5963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought it refurbhished but still its so good its processor,graphic card all things are very good its very good for gaming also

    • @christophersadler2930
      @christophersadler2930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just purchased this machine refurbished this morning

    • @dsithefirst
      @dsithefirst ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro how is it good for gaming ? It can barely run TF2 on low setting with custom graphics

    • @ifeanyifred4008
      @ifeanyifred4008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dsithefirstcan it play gta 5 on low graphics
      Or it depends on the ram installed in it

  • @samuelwole1161
    @samuelwole1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do I turn off the light beside the webcam

  • @askjeevescosby2928
    @askjeevescosby2928 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one of these but its bios locked. I can get into the os but i cant change bios settings. For some reason the previous owner disabled the dedicated graphics and has it running on the integrated graohics. I want to swap in a 1060m but i am unable to switch the video source. Wont let me do it in wondows.

  • @eidolusgad3818
    @eidolusgad3818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use mine for Batocera, and love it.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is my first time hearing of Batocera. Thanks for that. I'm going to load it onto a machine shortly and see how it goes.

  • @DJBpartyTV
    @DJBpartyTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 8570W and a 8470W that I use religiously for DJing and I've upgraded both of them with SSDs. Both i7s with 8 gigabytes of RAM. Will probably never replace them as long as they keep working. I wish HP would rerelease these in a same design but slimmer form factor. Very fast computers both on Windows 10 pro.

    • @DJBpartyTV
      @DJBpartyTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That workstation series not the P-Series has a backlit keyboard on the 15.6-in models only. Just a FYI.

    • @DJBpartyTV
      @DJBpartyTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you need help installing Windows 10 on it I can help you with that. It was a breeze on both of my computers.

    • @DJBpartyTV
      @DJBpartyTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The w series also has dedicated graphics cards provided by either Nvidia or ATI 1gb or 2gb depending on the specifications of the model you get. My 8470W has 1 GB of dedicated ATI graphics and my 8570W has 2 gigabytes of dedicated ATI graphics. I play Grand theft Auto on both of them and it plays them very well.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have another 8460 that I’m running POP_OS on. It has a 180GB ssd and 8GB ram. It’s a very comfortable typing machine

    • @DJBpartyTV
      @DJBpartyTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy for a better hardware experience if you get the W series and not the P series, the WORKSTATION models are true desktop replacements.

  • @ihaveacoolhat1
    @ihaveacoolhat1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have its little cousin, the 8460p. I have the second gen quad-core i7 in here, 16GB of RAM and a 240GB SSD, and believe it or not, Windows 11. I've had no problems with drivers apart from the fingerprint scanner. For that, I had to use a Lenovo driver because it was the same module. The only real complaint I have is the display, the viewing angles are absolutely abhorrent.

    • @deadcalifornia
      @deadcalifornia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought an 8460w yesterday with the same i7 quadcore, Eight gigs of ram but it has a 500gb hhd and the only thing wrong with it is the same thing it doesn't recognize the fingerprint module Is it even worth fixing

  • @lennyraposo6086
    @lennyraposo6086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ExpressCard 54 not PCMCIA. Can be used to utilize external gpu setups.

  • @Jesusindahouse
    @Jesusindahouse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Mike,
    I own one of these and recently got myself an additional thinkpad, because I wanted to install Linux mint on it, next to a windows system. Windows ran fine on it, but under linux it seems impossible to control fan speed and it can´t get this quiet enough to work on it. Now I am pondering to use my old HP instead and trying a double boot, maybe fan speed is controlable with linux on the HP? Lenovo seems to be impossible to manage that.....

  • @Well_Edumacated
    @Well_Edumacated 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    apple tvs and firesticks are cool and all but nothing beats an old laptop running fedora as a media center on a 65inch tv.

  • @AzAz-lb8pj
    @AzAz-lb8pj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this laptop too, I want install windows 11 but it’s not compatible because I have TPM 1.2 and I need 2.0 , how can I upgrade to TPM 2.0
    It doesn’t work with bios
    Thank you so much.

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Windows 11 won’t work. You’ll need to try Linux

    • @SarahAndrews-g7j
      @SarahAndrews-g7j 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Win 11 does run on this machine elitebook8570p

  • @MuzeInspiration
    @MuzeInspiration 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will this be good for music production? Core i5

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      depends on your app but I think it would be fine.

    • @MuzeInspiration
      @MuzeInspiration 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy thank you

  • @friendcisco
    @friendcisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol that light xD 😂 when i saw it i had the same thought, "what does that do" "nothing" thats what xD

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, it's pretty damn useless

  • @KienTrung-wv9og
    @KienTrung-wv9og 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have this from someone else, mine has a very dull and liveless display, the screen isn’t too bright. My old asus x45c even have a brighter display, the 8570p is hd+ btw. Do yours display is good, please let me know

  • @mellagog8672
    @mellagog8672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude you dissing my laptop ive had it for 3years now....anyway the light on top works---it works perfectly when you deem the screen(i prefer to work in the dark and i don't light bright screens)

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still have a 8460 as my back up computer. I really like it.

    • @NeverWoken
      @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy I have an older 69series, good old 4:3 ratio screen.

  • @10code4
    @10code4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 8570p! Only problem I have is that I can't find the backlight button. I've tried looking it up but haven't been successful yet.( Bought second-hand for cheap but it is a great size for me!) Any ideas? Enjoyed your video!

    • @NeverWoken
      @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you mean for keyboard? that's only on the workstation models, eg 8570w, not 8570p

  • @cdarnau
    @cdarnau 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you upgrade the Video card in this machine?

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or that I’m aware of.

    • @cdarnau
      @cdarnau 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy I need some help. I am looking for the least expensive laptop that I can use with an oculus rift s. That’s all I will do with the laptop. What would you recommend? Thanks!

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d ask reddit under “ suggest a laptop “

  • @rokisa
    @rokisa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that, its nice little boi

  • @tylermorgan9048
    @tylermorgan9048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondered why it's yours 1980x1080p where my laptop was on 1600x900?

  • @andrasladanyi9190
    @andrasladanyi9190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The windows in a same problem with my r5 230 amd vga but the drivers on works perfectly fine. :)

  • @magdimohamed6478
    @magdimohamed6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have hp elitebook 8570p. Can i fix core i7 instead of core i5? Thanks

  • @idealvidros2599
    @idealvidros2599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello Mikes very god, yes, tenho elitebook 8770w, que ao suspender ou embernar, e retomar ele não enter, e só aceita se aparecer mensagem online, ou precisa reiniciar no power ou liga e desliga... vc sabe oque posso fazer para solucionar esse problema

  • @kdramaloverz4290
    @kdramaloverz4290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can i enable keyboard backlit in hp 8570p

  • @serfoverlord9581
    @serfoverlord9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you put an m.2 ssd in this unit?

  • @rodolfodekemmeter6570
    @rodolfodekemmeter6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mikes. My name is Rodolfo from Argentina, congrat for you video, I´m a question for you: Could you copy me a link to see how to replace the internal battery Bios for my HP Elitebook 8470p? I can't locate it. Thanks a lot

  • @jonasboortz
    @jonasboortz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:24 Please set the BIOS to UEFI Native when only using Windows.

  • @jamesluke6351
    @jamesluke6351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which is better 8570p or 8470p?

  • @valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556
    @valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive had a used EliteBook 8570p since 2016. It has done its job and served well so far. But im definitely gonna get a new laptop or desktop soon. So im not only limited to playing older games. Newest game that has ran smoothly on it is Fallout New Vegas which is from 2010. Im sure it could probably run Skyrim 2011 aswell.

  • @trevoraldrinmatanjun8624
    @trevoraldrinmatanjun8624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one , Very big laptop, max ram 16gb , 1TB SSD . I like Laptop very big all Max up

  • @update-2473
    @update-2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you help me? i need this pc all driver link so that i can download

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      sure www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/hpsupportassistant/hpsupport.html

    • @jamesluke6351
      @jamesluke6351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is better 8470p or 8570p

    • @update-2473
      @update-2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      8570p

    • @NeverWoken
      @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesluke6351 a bit late to answer, the main difference is 14" vs 15" screen.

  • @naniramana2667
    @naniramana2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power bank how much time

  • @QueenCece6
    @QueenCece6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly your better off getting a Lenovo thinkpad t430 or t440p with the t440p you can get 1080p ips screens

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've owned every Lenovo laptop ever made. and I currently own a T450s with teh 1080 touch screen and a T440 :).

    • @QueenCece6
      @QueenCece6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy In Australia maxing out a t430 or t440p isn't worth it at that point you may as well get a ryzen 5 laptop from lenovo, with actually decent graphics or one with Intel and nvidia mx graphics

    • @manfredkrobath4526
      @manfredkrobath4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lenovo is good but the mousepad is a desaster

  • @zeirekqc
    @zeirekqc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a insane machine for upgarde you cant upgrade cpu gpu put a hardrive in the diskbay i have a hp workstation 8770w and this machine can bacome a budget gaming pc mine with the cooling cant have a gtx 900 serie inside a i7 4 core 8 tread 4 ssd inside

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can't remove the optical drive? I guess I'll have to take the hard drive I put in there and put back in the optical drive then..

    • @zeirekqc
      @zeirekqc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy mine is compatible msate ssd if your is is cant be a easy upgrade but yes with caddy for the dvd bay you can put the hard drive in here

  • @thehyphonater9649
    @thehyphonater9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the 2560 has better power:
    HP:here comes the refunds!!!!

  • @thanhvy5192
    @thanhvy5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cpu is i3 3320M, Can i replace i7 for hp 8670p, please? 🥺

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t think that’s possible with the motherboard

    • @thanhvy5192
      @thanhvy5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy tks guy so much

  • @urosjoksimovic8236
    @urosjoksimovic8236 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this laptop run World Of Tanks and on which settings?

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No and low.

    • @zeirekqc
      @zeirekqc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes if you upgrade the gpu its a mxm card

    • @NeverWoken
      @NeverWoken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ran Crysis, Elite:dangerous and Skyrim fine - I have the one with dedicated GPU and 12Gb of RAM

  • @BuBanBan
    @BuBanBan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    STAVIO SAM SSD I 8 GB RAMA

  • @phuongnguyen-ks9jp
    @phuongnguyen-ks9jp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi mike i subcribe again

  • @mohammadal-sammak2893
    @mohammadal-sammak2893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ممكن مخطط
    hp elitebook 8570p casper_dis_hr_hpb_mv_mb_v1

  • @phuongnguyen-sk7rb
    @phuongnguyen-sk7rb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi mike how are you?

  • @Cutle
    @Cutle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL im watching on same laptop

  • @Ahmed-salman-n.
    @Ahmed-salman-n. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst laptop is this

  • @pantelonis
    @pantelonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this laptop i recormend you to not buy it

    • @MikeDancy
      @MikeDancy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how long have you had it? it's big and bulky. i sold mine, I can't remember when or to who

    • @pantelonis
      @pantelonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeDancy 3 years

    • @Miami2
      @Miami2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why?

    • @pantelonis
      @pantelonis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miami2 Its very slow it has no graphics card