Thanks man great vid. Honestly I don’t like spending too much time in hideout but that video gave me an idea that maybe not the game is broken, just the view of my items value. Keep it going man, loving your vids
Your weighed sum trading principles are fascinating. I'm over here having "lightbulb moments" about the real world markets due to your videos. I have absolutely zero fucking doubt that real money traders are using weighed sum type shit to trade stonks bro. They're just hawking on earnings reports to snatch up under priced companies and flipping once the public catches wind. You're a low-key economics God bro.
You forgot the step where you drag everything that has dropped into a 5ex sell tab and wait to see what gets spammed.....THEN start to price the item correctly 😂
@@austinglover1242ah you’re one of the trash players that tries to scam new ppl out of good items instead of giving them a fair offer when you see they under listed it. Nice
This guide is amazing, but I have a feeling that much of what you said will fly over ears of most people haha Anyways it will make most of people price their items right, which I think is amazing I am getting a lot of questions of price checking, so I will use your video as a reference
Also, I really like how you give the general guide on what to look for, which is like 1 to 1 exact and correct, but most of people will still not understand what to look for because of that just said (especially niche modifiers, like non-ms boots, specific flat rings, value of +cold/+lightning on bows, chaos res on es items and its rly huge list of those) so I had a plan and still planning to make my video too, price checking is just really big theme haha, a lot has to be covered - otherwise we leave room for mistakes that will be made
Man I should have done a little more research into the weighted sum of one of my items. Sold it for 2 div and it was worth well over 30. Sad to say it was a massive learning experience. I will be creating an excel spread sheet with adjusting weights and calculations that I can use for future sales instead of doing math. Just plug and play. Good video btw
I guess the part I'm struggling with the most is understanding how to determine the weighted value of each stat for wands for example. I watched your previous video and I picked up on some things, but others, I'm not so sure. For example, at 15:31 , how exactly do we determine that the value of #% Increased Cast Speed is weighed at 10? Is it a guess? Or is there math involved? Definitely want to try to get an understanding of this.
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So first correction on the ES gear. Life is VERY good on ES gear for some builds. In particular for Witches who have an ascendancy that convert Life to Spirit and Mana. Though if you are selling ES with no Spirit then yes it might not have as much value.
Wish i had known this earlier. Sold a hammer with 50-80 extra physical damage, 190% increased physical damage and 9% of physical leeched as life for 150ex. Should have been so much more
Your videos are very helpful for a PoE beginner like I am, thanks a lot! Is there any way to save your complex filters? Or do you just use the same URL again once you have set up a search?
i typed this before ur vid, personally i'm at the point where making less than 30ex isn't really worth so what i do is pick up any item i'm confident of that i know it's either got a valuable base or i know exactly which stats are good or not. For gear, anything with like 3x res roll, 2x T3+ res, rarity, mana, stats i just chaos those that have potential, just something you'll learn. pricing for res if you turn off the resistance on trade site. let's say u have 30% fire res, you go to trade site and uncheck 30% fire res and then go to 'count', set 1 as minimum, put fire/cold/light with all 30% minimum and you'll see all the other res items with same amount or more
it is unfortunate that trade market is slowly dying as people move on. Got a full stash of mid/high end gear stuck unsold despite being relatively cheap to other items listed
Need to update your stash - perhaps the gear that you think is mid/high gear is actually bottom tier but if you truly believe thats not the case then we need to consider that maybe most of the playerbase have stopped buying midlevel gear and are opting for highend gear and saving their precious currency. Also try to avoid selling gear that shares the same space as a unique, for example rare gloves for monks and deadeye often get overlooked because of HoWA.
@ yeah most of the gears are sold just in time when a good astramentis deal appeared. I had to price cut on a big hybrid es/ev chest from 40 to 30 div cus nobody use rare chest anymore.
Question please in the wand weighting part ( i undetsand the belt's part 3 to 1 is understandable) , why do u weight most of the affixs as 3 ? what is the equation behind those and why the cast speed is 10 also what is the relation between mana and crit chance , im so confused XDDD
my observations are exactly opposite. Sceptre that I bought for 20 exalts now I would have to pay about 10 divines to get an upgrade. I often buy a better piece of gear and list my old worse for same price and it sells in like 2 days.
i think im too dumb to deal with weighted sums lol. I just leave the weights for stat alone and put a number i like in the total. this defaults to all values = 1 weight. when i see people start to add more weight to different stats thats when i begin to get confused.
We need a vid finding a good quarterstaff. I bought a qs with more dps than mine and i lost a lot of final dps in my build. And yesterday bought one with less dps and high up my final dps😢. Definitely i dont know how to find a good one. Im running a crit based build
I check the market, compare item stats and overall stats to make sure my item is compatible, drop the price at least 50% less then next thing on market, still can't sell shit. Idk is everyone just looking top of the crop 100+ div stuff now days, or uber unique only or ppls just play ssf and fked of market completely . Only thing that sells are consumables , like maps, omens etc... Da f* no one is buying any items.
@@random009-09 you have to make sure you’re not including stats that have little to know value, like for the belt charm stats inflate the price of the belt but no one cares
just sold no movement speed increase boots for 10div.... there is value there cause of the tempest flurry meta which basically dont care about MS :p high mana, max dex and int
Brother help me out please, I've got an attuned wand with the following stats: Gain 17% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage 37% increased Spell Damage 117% increased Lightning Damage 4 to Level of all Lightning Spell Skills 26% increased Cast Speed 44% increased Mana Regeneration Rate May I ask for your help in pricing it? I would really appreciate it!! Please Love your content! Can't wait for the stream!
Use this filter: www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/2RJZVdGUk had in the vid and plug those stats in and change the +5 to +4 on the trade site - should be good enough!
YOU are the reason we need a trade board. Your advide to keep increasing the price if you get a lot of hits, is completely WRONG. Unethical, and a a**hole thing to do. But congrats on your KeWl 1500 DiViNeS. Unsubbed because of that advice. Thanks for letting us know who you are.
😂. You missed the mark by a lot he clearly said when you get a lot of whispers as soon as you post an item. There are bots live searching scraping the API waiting for someone to fall for price fixes or to undervalue an item so as soon as it gets posted you get 20+ messages and you know you underpriced it. If your still selling something that 50 people want the second it gets posted for the sake of etiquette your an idiot
Hey kid, you’re doing a great job if you ever want to get into Forex trading or perhaps work on Wall Street one day send me a message. I have a lot of connections. Clearly you get it most people don’t you don’t realize the gift you have. Great job 👏
i feel like im learning more about the market and trade from these videos than my actual commerce course in college
This is the true economy guide. Please bless us with more sensei!
Buddy's genius letting all us regulars how to do good in game . Big thanks big brain
never thought I would hear the word intrinsic value from a video about a video game. learning a lot, thank you!
Wait until you hear Arbitrage lol
PoE is two games in one, an ARPG and stonks simulator haha
Here weo go, I've been waiting for this. Thank you so much for those videos.
Thanks man great vid. Honestly I don’t like spending too much time in hideout but that video gave me an idea that maybe not the game is broken, just the view of my items value. Keep it going man, loving your vids
That's so helpful! Thanks a bunch you're helping out all us newbies
I learned a lot of knowledge watching all of your 6 videos. Take my energy
Your weighed sum trading principles are fascinating. I'm over here having "lightbulb moments" about the real world markets due to your videos. I have absolutely zero fucking doubt that real money traders are using weighed sum type shit to trade stonks bro. They're just hawking on earnings reports to snatch up under priced companies and flipping once the public catches wind.
You're a low-key economics God bro.
Great content! Never knew the power of weighted sum.
You forgot the step where you drag everything that has dropped into a 5ex sell tab and wait to see what gets spammed.....THEN start to price the item correctly 😂
Ah you’re one of the trash players who goes on a block list
@@austinglover1242 real
@@austinglover1242ah you’re one of the trash players that tries to scam new ppl out of good items instead of giving them a fair offer when you see they under listed it. Nice
Slowly but surely learning and actually making profit! Awesome video as expected. P.S you’re still welcome to chill at my hideout anytime
Amazing guide as always, great video, looking forward to the next one!
dope videos man, appreciate the way you explain everything! learning heaps from this
dude, this is some incredible content on the market, the amount of information is so concise & easy to understand
great content, keep it up!
Amazing thank you so much this is actually a lot of exactly what I’m trying to figure out
smooth & to the point
hope they can add better options to lootfilter like Last Epoch has
Yeay another video from the market 🐐
This guide is amazing, but I have a feeling that much of what you said will fly over ears of most people haha
Anyways it will make most of people price their items right, which I think is amazing
I am getting a lot of questions of price checking, so I will use your video as a reference
Also, I really like how you give the general guide on what to look for, which is like 1 to 1 exact and correct, but most of people will still not understand what to look for because of that just said (especially niche modifiers, like non-ms boots, specific flat rings, value of +cold/+lightning on bows, chaos res on es items and its rly huge list of those)
so I had a plan and still planning to make my video too, price checking is just really big theme haha, a lot has to be covered - otherwise we leave room for mistakes that will be made
Really great video. Tons of good information
Hes finally back!
Man I should have done a little more research into the weighted sum of one of my items. Sold it for 2 div and it was worth well over 30. Sad to say it was a massive learning experience. I will be creating an excel spread sheet with adjusting weights and calculations that I can use for future sales instead of doing math. Just plug and play. Good video btw
brother it happens keep ya head up
@@XTheFarmerXPOE2thanks man, I’m working on getting that mirror. Got 125 div so far.
Beautiful, thanks for sharing.
Love you videos man.. keep em coming :D
Thanks for the tips, this helps a lot
I guess the part I'm struggling with the most is understanding how to determine the weighted value of each stat for wands for example. I watched your previous video and I picked up on some things, but others, I'm not so sure. For example, at 15:31 , how exactly do we determine that the value of #% Increased Cast Speed is weighed at 10? Is it a guess? Or is there math involved? Definitely want to try to get an understanding of this.
FIRST LIVE STREAM AT 4/5PM EST. ZERO to HERO Mirror Speedrun
on YT and Twitch.tv/xthefarmerx
DISCORD Server for those who want to talk about trades or give me some feedback: discord.gg/bsjQV4tFMf
So first correction on the ES gear. Life is VERY good on ES gear for some builds. In particular for Witches who have an ascendancy that convert Life to Spirit and Mana. Though if you are selling ES with no Spirit then yes it might not have as much value.
ci monks will want no life no spirit, so there's still a market :)
welp, no more abusing trade for big stonks. Great vid
Nice business lesson, thank you
Finally a discord server wooohoo
At this point in the game, everything that isn't worth a divine or more just ends up being vendored.
Wish i had known this earlier. Sold a hammer with 50-80 extra physical damage, 190% increased physical damage and 9% of physical leeched as life for 150ex. Should have been so much more
I sold a wand with +5lightning skill with other lightning damage with leech mana for 1div, now worth more than that
Could you link that Captain Lance guide? Thanks for the video
Your videos are very helpful for a PoE beginner like I am, thanks a lot! Is there any way to save your complex filters? Or do you just use the same URL again once you have set up a search?
there's an app, i forget what it's called but it lets you save all ur filters and organize them
@@XTheFarmerXPOE2 Thanks! If you remember the name or anyone else does, please let me know!
i typed this before ur vid,
personally i'm at the point where making less than 30ex isn't really worth so what i do is pick up any item i'm confident of that i know it's either got a valuable base or i know exactly which stats are good or not.
For gear, anything with like 3x res roll, 2x T3+ res, rarity, mana, stats i just chaos those that have potential, just something you'll learn.
pricing for res if you turn off the resistance on trade site. let's say u have 30% fire res, you go to trade site and uncheck 30% fire res and then go to 'count', set 1 as minimum, put fire/cold/light with all 30% minimum and you'll see all the other res items with same amount or more
count defnitely works if you only have a few affixes you're filtering for, weighted sum is king for when you got like 10 affixes
it is unfortunate that trade market is slowly dying as people move on. Got a full stash of mid/high end gear stuck unsold despite being relatively cheap to other items listed
Need to update your stash - perhaps the gear that you think is mid/high gear is actually bottom tier but if you truly believe thats not the case then we need to consider that maybe most of the playerbase have stopped buying midlevel gear and are opting for highend gear and saving their precious currency. Also try to avoid selling gear that shares the same space as a unique, for example rare gloves for monks and deadeye often get overlooked because of HoWA.
@ yeah most of the gears are sold just in time when a good astramentis deal appeared. I had to price cut on a big hybrid es/ev chest from 40 to 30 div cus nobody use rare chest anymore.
Bc of these videos I’ve flipped two wands bought for 15 ex sold for 1 div each and a helmet bought for 1 ex sold for 100 ex. These guides are awesome
thanks! :D
Question please in the wand weighting part ( i undetsand the belt's part 3 to 1 is understandable) , why do u weight most of the affixs as 3 ? what is the equation behind those and why the cast speed is 10 also what is the relation between mana and crit chance , im so confused XDDD
This is my 2nd video trying to understand the weighted sum feature and I still don’t understand it
cheers
bros playing the merchant class
Hi, is there a guide in flipping items, where you buy it for cheap and increase its value through crafting to sell it for a higher price?
Can you please please make a in depth crafting guide ?
Genkidama for you ~
POEconomics class is in session
My ingenuity belt went from 6div to 4 almost over night.
my observations are exactly opposite. Sceptre that I bought for 20 exalts now I would have to pay about 10 divines to get an upgrade. I often buy a better piece of gear and list my old worse for same price and it sells in like 2 days.
Let chatgpt figure out the math for you. Chad move
i think im too dumb to deal with weighted sums lol. I just leave the weights for stat alone and put a number i like in the total. this defaults to all values = 1 weight. when i see people start to add more weight to different stats thats when i begin to get confused.
We need a vid finding a good quarterstaff. I bought a qs with more dps than mine and i lost a lot of final dps in my build. And yesterday bought one with less dps and high up my final dps😢. Definitely i dont know how to find a good one. Im running a crit based build
W vid
i always price on high side. else its race to bottom, and i am not gonna leave my map for 1 exalt
The way everyone is pricing these days just price anything at 100+ divines, 500+ if it's a weapon you can't go wrong with that strategy. You welcome.
I need a temporalis fr
Trials of sugma
I check the market, compare item stats and overall stats to make sure my item is compatible, drop the price at least 50% less then next thing on market, still can't sell shit.
Idk is everyone just looking top of the crop 100+ div stuff now days, or uber unique only or ppls just play ssf and fked of market completely . Only thing that sells are consumables , like maps, omens etc... Da f* no one is buying any items.
@@random009-09 you have to make sure you’re not including stats that have little to know value, like for the belt charm stats inflate the price of the belt but no one cares
just sold no movement speed increase boots for 10div.... there is value there cause of the tempest flurry meta which basically dont care about MS :p high mana, max dex and int
13:55 I though someone buying my item
3:21 you forgot Mind over Matter uses mana as defence as well.
Brother help me out please, I've got an attuned wand with the following stats:
Gain 17% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage
37% increased Spell Damage
117% increased Lightning Damage
4 to Level of all Lightning Spell Skills
26% increased Cast Speed
44% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
May I ask for your help in pricing it? I would really appreciate it!! Please
Love your content! Can't wait for the stream!
Use this filter: www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/2RJZVdGUk had in the vid and plug those stats in and change the +5 to +4 on the trade site - should be good enough!
@@XTheFarmerXPOE2 Thank you!!
This is awesome
666 views lesgo
Bro, you showed Empys video from POE1. Quit referencing that damn video and saying it's POE2.
XTheFarmer > EOD
YOU are the reason we need a trade board.
Your advide to keep increasing the price if you get a lot of hits, is completely WRONG. Unethical, and a a**hole thing to do.
But congrats on your KeWl 1500 DiViNeS.
Unsubbed because of that advice.
Thanks for letting us know who you are.
please don't encourage people to re price there item after they have made it public to sell. that's pretty fucked up.
😂. You missed the mark by a lot he clearly said when you get a lot of whispers as soon as you post an item. There are bots live searching scraping the API waiting for someone to fall for price fixes or to undervalue an item so as soon as it gets posted you get 20+ messages and you know you underpriced it. If your still selling something that 50 people want the second it gets posted for the sake of etiquette your an idiot
@Da5kone001 this is why the market is fucked
@ because your an idiot?
Hey kid, you’re doing a great job if you ever want to get into Forex trading or perhaps work on Wall Street one day send me a message. I have a lot of connections. Clearly you get it most people don’t you don’t realize the gift you have.
Great job 👏
LOL