It will be speculation at best. Vegapunk doesn't know what the one piece is, Just like he doesn't know the full void century (unlike the Roger crew) But yeah if Luffy hears anything that can potentially spoil the one piece That will mark the darkest day in den-den mushi history (although it already is)
@@capitanspoiler7393Polt twist, Buggy forming the biggest Pirat group next to the Strawheads with more and more pirates in Cross guilt. Luffy claiming the one pice an will be the Prirat king. Buggy will be revealed to be the son of Rooks and Winn against the world government. So he can be the king of the world. Btw, Buggy look really like Rooks, the crew is very like Rooks too and he actually say that he will be king of the world when luffy is the pirate king to luffy as luffy fight him at the first time. Even if he fails, his mans will spread his name like rooks is also remembered. The legend of the incredible buggy.
I don’t think Luffy or any of the straw hats are hearin the message. Considerin everything goin on. And if they do hear it, I personally don’t think they are payin much attention to it cause of everything happening around them
To be fair i think vegapunk is completely wrong about it. Like roger said he was too early, and we see remains of roger pirates, and roger himself with his dead trying to bring people that can do something about it. One being at the start of grand line, one being in mid point redline helping with coating rayleigh ofc, oden before he died trying to open up wano for return of joyboy, roger dying ushering the great pirate age, shanks stealing the nika fruit that luffy ate.
"The brain void centuried itself." has got to be one of my favorite sentences. Mostly because of how much context is needed, but actually mostly because it could be true.
It's crazy to think of the Fishmen, Minks and Giants as the equivalent of Pacifistas. The whole Fishman race could be a side effect of the ancient kingdom creating Poseidon. The Minks could be from early experiments to make zoan Devil fruits. The OP communities current thinking about the Iron Giant seems to be that it'll take the place of Vega Force 1 and carry the Thousand Sunny to the sea. In my fetid mind this raises the possibility that Nico Robin ends up with the triangular transponder snail. She's been world famous as the "Devil Child" from Ohara for decades. I suspect most of the population knows about her and had at the least seen her child bounty poster at some point in their lives. Vegapunk has been talking up Ohara in his broadcast, so if his broadcast were to get cut short and the triangular snail landed in her hands she could finish what he was about to say, possibly finish what Professor Clover was also about to say before he died. JB, You know real life is more important that this, and we'll be here for ya'.
I had similar thought since in a similar exploration/battle Shonen torino talked about races being experimented on by a race of aliens called Nitro aliens who traveled to planet to mold the planets and cook them so they can eat them like the celestials and galactus.
i rememeber an interesting theory that the Lunaria were void century Pacifistas created humans. i also think its interesting that Kings Flame sits right where luffys hat rests on his back. Same spot.
They likely were, or could have been made as slave races by the Lunarians who are heavily implied to be the original "gods" of the world in a similar fashion that the Sumerian gods the Annunaki created humanity to be a slave race to lighten their work load.
Just a thought. Going with the theme of inventions falling in the wrong hands or being misused. What if the Ancient Weapons were in fact Terraforming technology? They were invented to make a better world for everyone but were used to make a world that could be easily dominated by 1 party.
that actually made a lot of sense to me, if we assume/think that the ancient kingdom or allies came from the moon, then maybe these were meant to make the moon habitable (again?), but then... *Shit happens*
I didnt say this but here is my fully tin foil thoughts - The world has been flooding for a really long time - The ancient weapons speed this up, but aren't actually the cause - Joy Boy discovered the truth of the world, from before the void century. Meaning he was living in his own world with mysteries at the time - Joy Boy(or his crew) then created the ancient weapons to actually fix the world from a problem basically everyone didnt know about - However the weapon was used, or was stolen and then used, or the people learned about them... and feared them - Therefore Joy Boys plan for them was never completed But the basic premise is the weapons will fix a problem with the world itself, that predates the void century
It would certainly match the reference Vegapunk made to the Greek myth of Icarus a few chapters ago. I think the advanced technology of the Void Century originated from the Lunarians or some other advanced race who centuries beforehanded guided the races of the earth into developing this technology. They are hinted at being the original "gods" of the world, but were usurped and replaced once they caught up. The 20 kingdoms suppressed this technology out of fear that it could be misused, but as they became corrupted they continued to suppress it for fear of their own power being usurped. This could be inspired by the Norse apocalypse the Ragnarok which was a fated battle which would see the deaths of most of the gods, or the Titanomachy where the Olympians lead by Zeus overthrew the Titans which lead by his father Chronus and became the new gods. This would also confirm that history repeats itself as Chronus as usurped his father Ouranos as beforehand. Zeus himself was obsessed with the same happening to him and tried to do what was necessary to prevent him from suffering the same fate as his father and grandfather. The Lunarians likely ruled the planet like the Sumerian gods the Anunaki once did, but the Ancient Kingdom took their place at some point and then the World Government took their place. There could also have been some "traitors" among the Lunarians who teamed up with races of earth to take down their own kind who may have begun to abuse their power which could be a reference to the nephilim which were angels who mated with human women to create the giants. Perhaps certain races that are stronger than humans on average such as fishmen or giants could be the result of genetic experiments which may have been created as slave species to the gods. These species who were once slaves may have become very prominent in the Ancient Kingdom, and humans may have been the ones who were oppressed during this time. The "great cleansing" V. Nujuro mentioned several chapters ago may have been a reference to this event, and event which may explain why humans vastly outnumber the other races.
I love how Vegapunk's brain outsmarted York who thought she had outsmarted him and the other Satellites, I wonder if the brain has set up anything else. Given what Rayleigh said in the past I wonder if a part of finding One Piece is indeed the journey itself.
I think it would be a better narrative if she joins the crew and inherits the Straw Hat. The Straw Hat doesn't belong to Luffy. It doesn't belong to Shanks. It didn't belong to Roger. The Straw Hat belongs to the future it is passing on the Will of D and the hope of the Sun God Nika and Joy Boy.
@justinn8541 The series is about inherited will. There is one person who had knowledge of and faith in Nika. Kuma was faithful until his death. If anyone is worthy of inheriting the Straw Hat, it is Bonney. If anyone deserves to be part of the crew and finds the One Piece, it is Bonney. Luffy also needs to give the hat away so he can replace it with the original Straw Hat. During his fight with Imu, I can see Luffy getting his ass kicked. Being thrown all over The Holy Land Mary Geoise crashing into the freezer. He sees the Hat puts it on his head and says, "That's better. I feel like me again. Goes in to Gear 5 and starts laughing.
@@osonhouston I mean fair. Devil's Advocate, Luffy is extremely selfish. I feel like Luffy wouldn't give his hat to Bonnie as you said. Either of our hypothetical situations can work out. Also I'm only taking to account how Luffy doesn't like to be seen as a "hero" and passing down the strawhat would be considered heroic in your context. If it makes sense, which your situation does, then I have no problem with it.
i feel so fortunate to be able to live through this time of one piece. nothing has made me been so repeatedly grateful for being here as much as this story. it will be absolutely surreal when its all over. we also have a limited amount of time to reread it with questions in our minds, just like people have a limited time to catch up. ill definitely be rereading soon
It definitely feels vega punk telling this to the world, makes some people persure the ancient weapons, or truth of the world.while roger sent people to look for treasure/ wealth. Something to make ones life better or better for others. The quistion of if your not joyboy at the end, but how to get the right joyboy to come to the end and make the right decisions still waiting to be made after 800 years. How to inspire a generation for good not evil, Not continuing the cycle of hatred. Like to the fishman.
Vegapunk could have had hidden stuff from all the satellites. He knew of the theft but not the thief, so prepared for each scenario. But the Punk Records being the real Vegapunk is still cooler.
I feel like oda took a little bit of inspiration from Oppenheimer for vegapunks character. I think oda is using a lot of different scientists like Einstein with the iconic picture and newton with the apple obviously, but for Oppenheimer he was researching atomic/ nuclear energy but ended up paving the way to nuclear bombs (i didnt watch Oppenheimer so im not 100% correct and just going off of memory) but this fits for vegapunk researching the mother flame for society but ended up fueling uranus
Oppenheimer himself is famously known for quoting a passage in the Hindu scripture the Baghavad Gita after the first testing of the Atom bomb, it is "I have become death the destroyer of worlds." The Hindu scriptures are quite the read, all you need to do is slightly change a few details and they will read just like sci fi novels. This story is a dialogue between the god Krishna and prince Arjuna before a major battle in which many of Arjunas friends and relatives are on the opposing side. Arjuna dosen't want to fight them, and discusses his despair with Krishna. The main takeaway of this text is that the right course of action isn't always as clear cut as it seems, that many times situations aren't black and white, but grey. Vegapunk himself is an arguably grey character in that he has done a lot of good things as well as a lot of bad. "I flew too close to the sun" he said in a recent chapter.
Hope everything is well bro! You are the best theory channel out there the excitement in your voice when you talk about One Piece is unmatched! And it's always a joy watching your vids :)
Dude i think you hit the nail right on the head. I could never express this enough your theories are awsome! Its asif you bring my own hopes and dreams to life in a way i never could lol
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter: 1. With Crocodile watching Vegapunk's message, as well learning why the Roger Pirates did what he did, I now wonder if Buggy will become his guide into helping him find the Pluton! Who knows, this could be a perfect way for both sides of Cross Guild to get what they want! 2. It's no surprise that sometime in the next chapter, York & the Elders will try to destroy the Iron Giant in an effort to end Vegapunk's message for good. But regardless on how the broadcast ends, do you think that what Vegapunk said until now will be what inspires the world to rebel against the Government, and/or at least save themselves from another massive flood? 3. If Rayleigh & Shakky were at Sabody, then it is possible that the Boa sisters & Gloriosa are tagging along with Hancock in her journey to find & "marry" Luffy, which could become an unexpected set up for the next Arc, regardless on where the SH & their allies will go after Egghead! If so, then this could be a great opportunity for some Hancock related theories to be confirmed one way or another! 4. If Vegapunk is able to take his share of the blame for what happened to Lulusia, then it might be possible for him to make amends with the Kuja Tribe who were harmed by the Seraphim. Whether or not the citizens of Amazon Lily will be able to forgive him.
Anyone else thinking that Blackbeard is on the move at this moment? What if he already got the info about the two locations for the ancient weapons. Maybe that’s why we haven’t then? Maybe it’s because they are taking advantage that everyone is distracted which is a perfect time to make a move on the fishmen or in Wano.
It would be wicked cool to watch the transponder snail get taken out, only to see the transmission cut over to Dragon & the RA. If VP stashed the snail in the robot right before meeting Luffy, then it'd be accurate to say that Shaka was speaking to Dragon about the same time.
20:45 This makes me wonder about the origins of the memory wiping device. I doubt he made it on the spot when he found out about The mother flame being stolen, but if the vegapunks don’t realize the brain is the “real vegapunk” that could be a huge part of their origin
I called it, i knew vegapunk his the transponder snail in the iron giant and thematically made sense, for the story it made sense. Once the broadcast started after it was confirmed the message plays after his death, I then knew whatever was broadcasting the message had to be in the ancient robot
I already left a long comment but I gotta glaze rn lol JoyBoy you are truly cookin man. I feel like you are hands down one of the most underrated one piece TH-camrs. You don’t get everything right and who does? lol but your train of thought is so addicting and always reignites my passion for the series intellectually. In my mind you’re like the One piece Nostradamus lol keep up the great work man
At episode 207 at 16:50 second. Luffy enters the house at long ring island. On the door looks to be shadow characters similar to Imu. Then ussop freaks out and tells luffy not to go in because the boss of the island could live in the house. Guess what he describes the boss like. A terrible long snake like man monster that will shallow us whole. Didn't Imu kind of stretch out like a long snake monster that shallow kobra whole.
10:34 I think Rayleigh knew about the Nika Fruit, so he was saying "as you are now" as in "without having Awakened your true powers!" Now that Luffy has Awakened his fruit, whatever knowledge Vegapunk shares could be acted upon now when it couldn't back on Sabaody.
The loss of memory Must be the previous user awakening Pudding’s fruit. It just seems to clean, it might even require the third eye to use it optimally.
Damn, JB, I really like the ideas about creation of Life and by extension your creations have the ability to defy or betray you. Like A.I. may one day find humans obsolete (God forbid) to even the Biblical theory that God made Humans and then we threw the world into sin with Adam & Eve. Great theory also that the AWs are sentient things. It’d finish the theory because Poseidon being the only living weapon makes no sense. And maybe Momonosuke is an AW too. I can see Zoe being an Ancient Ship Weapon because of its size defense and power.
I got an epiphany this morning. You all need to hear this. Regarding Vegapunk and another one o his potnential influences that inspired him. There this Professor Character named Abdallah Nightingale(Nyhtallah in the translated version I read). His is a mentor figure for the protagonist of a book callen the 13 1/2 lifes of Captain Bluebear written by Walter Moers. It was first published when the anime started. The coincidence to me is that I read it around the time of T.B. where Vegapunk was first mentioned( I did not watched the series back then)[15-16 years ago] The guy strikes a resemplance to Ainstein obviously but he has 7 brains cOmE oN.The whole Zamonia universe is crazy to One Piece level from its varietty of creatures and cultures.
I've been thinking lately about the Dressrosa arc being a microcosm of the entire One Piece story. Remember how Doflamingo manipulated King Riku to seem like the villain so he'd swoop in like the hero, but was actually a master manipulator? What if the same thing happened with Joy Boy and the 20 kingdoms? They set a trap for Joy Boy, and made him seem like a monster, and that's why his friends (Zunisha, the giant robot) abandoned him, and that's Zunisha's crime, and the reason that the robot attacked Marijeoise was out of guilt?
@@JoyBoyTheories also it would somewhat explain what Vegapunk meant when he said that there was no good guy or bad guy. Because both did horrible things. One because of course (world government) and the other because was forced to (Joy Boy), but Stella wouldn't know because he hasn't read the Rio Poneglyph. But the Roger pirates sure did, and see Joy Boy as a great guy
Even if Punk records is the real Stella (which I want to be the case), it doesn't explain how Vegapunk was able to lie to York on its own. I wonder if some memory modification was involved, so Vegapunk could act surprised and not have his cover blown.
The Stella we know is actually ego, that's why it truly believed it was the main primary being and because he was the first one activated the others assumed he was right. The reason Vega punk would have made ego his first clone so that he could clearly look past himself to the truth of the world and the death of the "stella" body is representative of ego death which finally frees the primary Vega punk to act without concern for anything but the truth, a scientist dream.
So the bit about Wano got me thinking about having allies who are waiting for another great war, and yeah the inheretors of the Will of D are those ppl but what if some other ppl we met in the story were allies who can some how come back for the war, like zuneisha, iron giant, some oars dependant or anicient giant, maybe yeti cool brothers? Idk just spit balling
So seems like York was the one who stole part of the "mother flame" and gave it to Imu/WG in which they used on Lulusia kingdom which was Uranus Congrats to those who guessed the final den den mushi was gonna be with the Ancient Robot Rayleigh out here getting drunk and getting pissed at Vega punk for dishing out spoilers lol Roger and Rayleigh knowing about the war and not doing about it is probably because Roger was already dying at that time and also say him and the Roger pirates were too early
I think we can make interesting theories if we take what York said as hints. 1) VP didnt know it was York, but he did know that SOMEONE must have. I think we should be asking HOW can they both not have known about each other through the daily updates at the end of the day? The easy answer is that VP just found out in the current day. The hard answer is that VP really knew about the WGs plans like York suggested and apparently let it happen???? 2) Since there is something funky going on about the timeline as York said, there could be some time traveling shenanigans going on… it is VP who is based on Einstein after all.. with the whole time and space theme… since the answer isnt clear, i think the explanation will be something wild. im too dumb to think of anything good… looking forward to the answer
Joyboy, I wanted to hear your thoughts on this head canon of Imu’s end goal (I dont know if this is being said in the community already but this chapter made me further believe in this possibility): What if the goal of the “great cleansing” is for IMU to recoup all the devil fruits? DF Users, who cant swim, would definitely drown. The ones that dont drown, would eventually die, and the Devil fruit cycle restarts. If Imu has control of all the lands above sea level, by default he/she may possess all trees, and therefore all Devil Fruits. Eventually Imu can posess Sun God Nika’s fruit and defeat their nemesis. It also ties back to what Dr. Vegapunk said, that he cant really tell if that person is evil or not. Cleansing the world from the “Devil fruits”… is it an evil thing? Passing down the Ancient Weapons to fight back against Imu and keep the DF, is that evil? Side note about Luffy, Nika and the Mother Flame: I wonder if Luffy’s “fire” attacks are him starting to channel that power. Eventually we are going to see a “Mother Flame Gatling” attack, which can REALLY damage the Gorosei and Imu
We’re making this too complicated. Shaka was the one that found out about York stealing the fragment. Shaka doesn’t share this information with York, but he also doesn’t tell Stella who it was knowing Stella will give the game away. Instead Shaka (Logic) informs Stella about the steal and tells him to act accordingly.
OH MY GOD. IT ALL CLICKED WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE ROCKS PIRATES. I think Crocodile was at the God Valley incident. He would have been 8 years old, could have been one of the slaves or locals that Kuma saved. Ivankov was there too, and that's where Iva and Kuma got their devil fruits, so he could have gotten his sand fruit the same way. What if Crocodile's secret is that he was there on God Valley and Iva helped him escape. He would've heard what Rocks had to say as well.
Plutón being a Klabautermann, Poseidon (and by extension all of the fishmen (and maybe even EVERY other race)) being creations of science, and JoyBoy suffering the same fate as Oden are all theories that make way too much sense!
Nice theory! i imagined a Docking combination like the classic straw hat combination A huge ship with a drill (pluton) with a laser beam (uranus) and propelled by the sea beasts a mega weapon to destroy the redline in one shot or something like that 😂
options for knowing about york's betrayal: (a) stella didn't know but one of the punks other than stella knew, like shaka or some 7th satellite working in the shadows. not implausible that the masked shaka would be a better liar. (b) stella wiped part of his own memory so as to not tip off the traitor. we know they have that capability from kuma's backstory.
Remember, Lily had a brother. I wonder if anything happened with him. I think Lily got captured/surrendered to the WG and Imu body swapped with Lily and got the eternal youth surgery. Or she founded Amazon Lily
My assumption reading the chapter was that York couldn't know Vegapunk's plans precisely because she did not synchronize (in other words, it's a two way process).
You lowkey are supporting my secondary theory on how the WG got Uranus at the end of the vid, my first being that Imu stole in during the Void Century and the 2nd theory is that Imu/gorosei had cipher pol steal it from Hachinosu as the rocks pirates had Uranus and it was used to destroy God Valley, how without the mother flames? Idk but maybe Xebec was a lunerian and they used his corpse as fuel for Uranus
Wait....there was a den den mushi in the Throne Room that took a picture of Sabo over Cobra's body....who owns that den den mushi? And why was it conveniently there to incriminate Sabo? Something doesn't add up there still.....what if that den den mushi is Vegapunk's? There's still a reason Vegapunk wanted people to have visual transponder snails......what if Vegapunk secretly recorded the whole exchange between Cobra and Imu, including when Sabo intervened? A photo "incriminating Sabo" was then sent to Morgans to ward off suspicion from the Gorosei about that snail.
6:13 I just started watching but idk how I got this thought just from what you said so far but what if Uranus it supposed to be used like a solid Hologram. listen so Uranus is a sky-toll and just as it could destroy a whole island-it can also create islands from the light (mother-flame) 🤔💭🤨 (I’m also hi so this could just be hi thoughts 😂)
kaido said wano was special for a reason, i believe he at the very least knew the pluton was burried in wano somewhere, hence why he had slaves mining the country
My take is that the former Roger pirates would be persecuted by the government. They were chilling for 20 years without a worry, but now Vegapunk rat them out, and they have to move.
Since they know everything they likely stayed quiet because revealing too much too soon could backfire. The World Government is heavily implied to have the power to create mass extinction events here and if the second coming of Joyboy dies too soon then there is nothing that can stop them.
The wording felt intentional on page 4. Is Oda dropping hints that the One Piece is the sole surviving Piece of the Ancient Kingdom’s True Mother Flame?
All this makes me wonder if Imu isn't the king of the Ancient Kingdom who somehow survived or maybe someone similar in nature to the Architect in the Matrix, where every millenia or so the ancient weapons are used to "wipe the slate clean". Destroy all the current civilizations and then try to ferret away any evidence of their existence. If the races exist because they were created, maybe after every time the world is wiped clean, there is some sort of machine (maybe on the moon/moons) that recreates the native races using genetic blueprints. The people are then given or taught false/incomplete history that conveniently leaves out any evidence of Imu and Gorosei involvement, with the exception that they are leaders. That could be why no one has any memory of any catastrophic flood. "The world was always flooded. What are you talking about? There is no war in Ba Sing Se!"
Now Franky come into play. Did the WG want frankys blueprints of pluton because they need them to properly apply the mother flame? Were they worried that he would share it and hp create a way to destroy it if it came into play? Is this why Toms execution was so straight forward?
The only way I can think of, with existing knowledge, of how to affect EVERYONE'S memory is with Sugar's DF. Which COULD imply the One Piece is Joy Boy himself. If he ends up being a giant, he could be a giant toy now. Too big to move off the island. Maybe a poneglyph-sized jack-in-the-box?
The Ancient kingdom name could be the One Piece. That would explain evrything weird in the wording with Roger execution , and why the gorosei really didnt want Pr.Clover to say the name of the ancient kingdom. The ''One Piece is real'' works too , a Ancient advanced kingdom is as real as it gets , and its also a treasure. If the case , Roger Execution was the Biggest F**k you in One Piece history we thought we knew, but we didnt understand it fully.
What I'm still curious about, is why did Vegapunk want visual den den mushi's so much? Was it just a face reveal? Does he have something to show the world? Was the image of the sunken civilization just for the audience, or did Vegapunk get footage somehow?
So it is possible that the Vegapunk that got turned into a baby is still alive and well, and that the Vegapunk who was captured by York was not the same person as the Vegapunk that was turned into a baby. We never saw Vegapunk being kidnapped by York, which could imply that the Vegapunk who was captured by York is a different entity from the Vegapunk that teleported into the iron guant. It is possible that Vegapunk who was turned into a kid somehow avoided detection, saw what happened at egghead, then somehow traveled back in time and watped himself into the iron giant, thereby giving him time to create the broadcast.
my theory is there is a 7th vegapunk having the aspect "the fool",,cuz u know the more genius is someone,the more they think theyre fool,this clone however act solitarily from other satellites,therefore they didnt have syncronized thoughts,which explained "the fools" aspect,,2 supposedly "dead" satellites,shaka n phytagoras feed him the datas as theyre the only satellites shown in the vid,so the recorded vid is not actually recorded but it is live from inside the iron giant by the 7th vegapunk
Like Parvision likes to say, "everything connects" It's been PAINFULLY OBVIOUS since Zou that Momonosuke is Pluton simply by the fact that he can TALK AND COMMAND AN ANCIENT GIANT CREATURE like Shirahoshi. The theme was CLEAR since Fishman ISland SEA, LAND, SKY Poseidon, god of the SEA and the conduit, the avatar is a MERMAID Pluton, god of the underworld, and people have to think LITERALLY THE WORLD BELOW, in other words the LAND, a human commands an ELEPHANT, a LAND creature. Uranus, god of the SKY, the avatar will be a WINGED PERSON who commands dragons, all the sings are there. The biggest one if Dragon 13 from Punk Hazard Vegapunk said he tried to recreate an ancient weapon but failed. Why? Because he cloned a dragon and not the person who commands them. It's like trying to clone Poseidon and clone a sea king instead of Shirahoshi. EVERYTHING. CONNECTS.
The ancient weapons have a true purpose, one of creation but any tool can be used for destruction as well and thats all how vegapunk saw them as well. Using all 3 ancient weapons may be used to terraform the planet so that Joyboy may create One Piece, a pangea for his allies most notably the fishmen, Vegapunk using climate change tech forshadows terraforming imo 22:55 the Brain being the true Vegapunk is a good theory but Stella is always connected to his brain via his apple top antenna. I think York is giving Stella too much credit in his genius as stella knew someone stole a piece of the mother flame but not who or why and york thought Stella planned on countering the WGs plans when she misunderstood Vegapunk's intentions as he only planned for a global transparent apology with his imminent death and he must of been hanging out in the junkyard long enough for York to deduce the broadcast snail's location
But what about Blackbeard? His reactions have yet to be shown to any of the revealed info and also with the info that Van Auger is about to deliver BB will act fast. edit:Ah ypu did mention BB
Aight listen up. This is the real spoiler. The Three Ancient Weapons can combine into a Megazord. The One Piece is a set of instructions that tells people how to take those three pieces and put them together as one. Joyboy was a man, and all men love robots. It is known. Therefore no matter how dangerous it was, Joyboy had to keep the Ancient Weapons around because a Megazord is cool. How does Poseidon being a living being factor into this? Good question. A very... Very good question. That I leave as an exercise to the reader.
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Vegapunk: is about to reveal what the One Piece is
Luffy: Destroys the transponder snail
It will be speculation at best. Vegapunk doesn't know what the one piece is,
Just like he doesn't know the full void century (unlike the Roger crew)
But yeah if Luffy hears anything that can potentially spoil the one piece
That will mark the darkest day in den-den mushi history (although it already is)
@@XenoPon2 plot twist, Buggy is the real hero, we were following the main antagonist all along
@@capitanspoiler7393Polt twist, Buggy forming the biggest Pirat group next to the Strawheads with more and more pirates in Cross guilt.
Luffy claiming the one pice an will be the Prirat king.
Buggy will be revealed to be the son of Rooks and Winn against the world government. So he can be the king of the world.
Btw, Buggy look really like Rooks, the crew is very like Rooks too and he actually say that he will be king of the world when luffy is the pirate king to luffy as luffy fight him at the first time.
Even if he fails, his mans will spread his name like rooks is also remembered. The legend of the incredible buggy.
I refuse to believe luffy would ever destroy the cool giant robot of his dreams that will absolutely not happen ever 😅
I don’t think Luffy or any of the straw hats are hearin the message. Considerin everything goin on. And if they do hear it, I personally don’t think they are payin much attention to it cause of everything happening around them
Vegapunk - The Roger pirates did nothing.
Dragon - they learn with me.
Looking at the east😂
lol i didnt get the feeling that Vegapunk was upset at them but ill have to see more
To be fair i think vegapunk is completely wrong about it. Like roger said he was too early, and we see remains of roger pirates, and roger himself with his dead trying to bring people that can do something about it. One being at the start of grand line, one being in mid point redline helping with coating rayleigh ofc, oden before he died trying to open up wano for return of joyboy, roger dying ushering the great pirate age, shanks stealing the nika fruit that luffy ate.
"The brain void centuried itself." has got to be one of my favorite sentences. Mostly because of how much context is needed, but actually mostly because it could be true.
Totally agree I straight up witch cackled at the brilliance!
It's crazy to think of the Fishmen, Minks and Giants as the equivalent of Pacifistas. The whole Fishman race could be a side effect of the ancient kingdom creating Poseidon. The Minks could be from early experiments to make zoan Devil fruits.
The OP communities current thinking about the Iron Giant seems to be that it'll take the place of Vega Force 1 and carry the Thousand Sunny to the sea. In my fetid mind this raises the possibility that Nico Robin ends up with the triangular transponder snail. She's been world famous as the "Devil Child" from Ohara for decades. I suspect most of the population knows about her and had at the least seen her child bounty poster at some point in their lives. Vegapunk has been talking up Ohara in his broadcast, so if his broadcast were to get cut short and the triangular snail landed in her hands she could finish what he was about to say, possibly finish what Professor Clover was also about to say before he died.
JB, You know real life is more important that this, and we'll be here for ya'.
I like that.
And dont forget about the seakings. How in the World could Evolution lead to that kind of mixed creatures?
I had similar thought since in a similar exploration/battle Shonen torino talked about races being experimented on by a race of aliens called Nitro aliens who traveled to planet to mold the planets and cook them so they can eat them like the celestials and galactus.
banger bro!!! I hope so
i rememeber an interesting theory that the Lunaria were void century Pacifistas created humans. i also think its interesting that Kings Flame sits right where luffys hat rests on his back. Same spot.
They likely were, or could have been made as slave races by the Lunarians who are heavily implied to be the original "gods" of the world in a similar fashion that the Sumerian gods the Annunaki created humanity to be a slave race to lighten their work load.
Just a thought. Going with the theme of inventions falling in the wrong hands or being misused. What if the Ancient Weapons were in fact Terraforming technology? They were invented to make a better world for everyone but were used to make a world that could be easily dominated by 1 party.
You might be on to something
that actually made a lot of sense to me, if we assume/think that the ancient kingdom or allies came from the moon, then maybe these were meant to make the moon habitable (again?), but then... *Shit happens*
I didnt say this but here is my fully tin foil thoughts
- The world has been flooding for a really long time
- The ancient weapons speed this up, but aren't actually the cause
- Joy Boy discovered the truth of the world, from before the void century. Meaning he was living in his own world with mysteries at the time
- Joy Boy(or his crew) then created the ancient weapons to actually fix the world from a problem basically everyone didnt know about
- However the weapon was used, or was stolen and then used, or the people learned about them... and feared them
- Therefore Joy Boys plan for them was never completed
But the basic premise is the weapons will fix a problem with the world itself, that predates the void century
@@JoyBoyTheoriesi do like this train of thought
It would certainly match the reference Vegapunk made to the Greek myth of Icarus a few chapters ago. I think the advanced technology of the Void Century originated from the Lunarians or some other advanced race who centuries beforehanded guided the races of the earth into developing this technology. They are hinted at being the original "gods" of the world, but were usurped and replaced once they caught up. The 20 kingdoms suppressed this technology out of fear that it could be misused, but as they became corrupted they continued to suppress it for fear of their own power being usurped.
This could be inspired by the Norse apocalypse the Ragnarok which was a fated battle which would see the deaths of most of the gods, or the Titanomachy where the Olympians lead by Zeus overthrew the Titans which lead by his father Chronus and became the new gods. This would also confirm that history repeats itself as Chronus as usurped his father Ouranos as beforehand. Zeus himself was obsessed with the same happening to him and tried to do what was necessary to prevent him from suffering the same fate as his father and grandfather.
The Lunarians likely ruled the planet like the Sumerian gods the Anunaki once did, but the Ancient Kingdom took their place at some point and then the World Government took their place. There could also have been some "traitors" among the Lunarians who teamed up with races of earth to take down their own kind who may have begun to abuse their power which could be a reference to the nephilim which were angels who mated with human women to create the giants. Perhaps certain races that are stronger than humans on average such as fishmen or giants could be the result of genetic experiments which may have been created as slave species to the gods. These species who were once slaves may have become very prominent in the Ancient Kingdom, and humans may have been the ones who were oppressed during this time. The "great cleansing" V. Nujuro mentioned several chapters ago may have been a reference to this event, and event which may explain why humans vastly outnumber the other races.
I love how Vegapunk's brain outsmarted York who thought she had outsmarted him and the other Satellites, I wonder if the brain has set up anything else.
Given what Rayleigh said in the past I wonder if a part of finding One Piece is indeed the journey itself.
Oda confirmed that The One Piece will for sure be tangible and incredibly important, and won't just be "the friends we made along the way" garbage.
@@sidargall you misinterpreted, he meant the journey as a necessary step to unlock it. Journey being more than just travel
@@justindosser8148 That's exactly what I mean.
With people are saying Edison told Stucy to be a person in this chapter, I want her to be Bonnie's new mom.
People did call Bonnie a vampire when she couldn’t go out in the sun. Would be wild foreshadowing lol
I think it would be a better narrative if she joins the crew and inherits the Straw Hat.
The Straw Hat doesn't belong to Luffy. It doesn't belong to Shanks. It didn't belong to Roger. The Straw Hat belongs to the future it is passing on the Will of D and the hope of the Sun God Nika and Joy Boy.
@@osonhouston Maybe not inherit, but she should get one to imitate Luffy.
@justinn8541 The series is about inherited will. There is one person who had knowledge of and faith in Nika. Kuma was faithful until his death. If anyone is worthy of inheriting the Straw Hat, it is Bonney.
If anyone deserves to be part of the crew and finds the One Piece, it is Bonney.
Luffy also needs to give the hat away so he can replace it with the original Straw Hat.
During his fight with Imu, I can see Luffy getting his ass kicked. Being thrown all over The Holy Land Mary Geoise crashing into the freezer. He sees the Hat puts it on his head and says, "That's better. I feel like me again. Goes in to Gear 5 and starts laughing.
@@osonhouston I mean fair. Devil's Advocate, Luffy is extremely selfish. I feel like Luffy wouldn't give his hat to Bonnie as you said. Either of our hypothetical situations can work out. Also I'm only taking to account how Luffy doesn't like to be seen as a "hero" and passing down the strawhat would be considered heroic in your context. If it makes sense, which your situation does, then I have no problem with it.
i feel so fortunate to be able to live through this time of one piece. nothing has made me been so repeatedly grateful for being here as much as this story. it will be absolutely surreal when its all over. we also have a limited amount of time to reread it with questions in our minds, just like people have a limited time to catch up. ill definitely be rereading soon
It definitely feels vega punk telling this to the world, makes some people persure the ancient weapons, or truth of the world.while roger sent people to look for treasure/ wealth. Something to make ones life better or better for others. The quistion of if your not joyboy at the end, but how to get the right joyboy to come to the end and make the right decisions still waiting to be made after 800 years. How to inspire a generation for good not evil, Not continuing the cycle of hatred. Like to the fishman.
exactly
Vegapunk could have had hidden stuff from all the satellites. He knew of the theft but not the thief, so prepared for each scenario. But the Punk Records being the real Vegapunk is still cooler.
I feel like oda took a little bit of inspiration from Oppenheimer for vegapunks character. I think oda is using a lot of different scientists like Einstein with the iconic picture and newton with the apple obviously, but for Oppenheimer he was researching atomic/ nuclear energy but ended up paving the way to nuclear bombs (i didnt watch Oppenheimer so im not 100% correct and just going off of memory) but this fits for vegapunk researching the mother flame for society but ended up fueling uranus
Oppenheimer himself is famously known for quoting a passage in the Hindu scripture the Baghavad Gita after the first testing of the Atom bomb, it is "I have become death the destroyer of worlds." The Hindu scriptures are quite the read, all you need to do is slightly change a few details and they will read just like sci fi novels. This story is a dialogue between the god Krishna and prince Arjuna before a major battle in which many of Arjunas friends and relatives are on the opposing side. Arjuna dosen't want to fight them, and discusses his despair with Krishna. The main takeaway of this text is that the right course of action isn't always as clear cut as it seems, that many times situations aren't black and white, but grey. Vegapunk himself is an arguably grey character in that he has done a lot of good things as well as a lot of bad. "I flew too close to the sun" he said in a recent chapter.
Hope everything is well bro! You are the best theory channel out there the excitement in your voice when you talk about One Piece is unmatched! And it's always a joy watching your vids :)
Dude i think you hit the nail right on the head. I could never express this enough your theories are awsome! Its asif you bring my own hopes and dreams to life in a way i never could lol
I’m a simple man. I’m just happy we finally got the Alabasta reaction to the message and to post reverie all at once
I'm sensing the ancient weapons are like a rock-paper-scissors setup balancing against each other.
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
1. With Crocodile watching Vegapunk's message, as well learning why the Roger Pirates did what he did, I now wonder if Buggy will become his guide into helping him find the Pluton! Who knows, this could be a perfect way for both sides of Cross Guild to get what they want!
2. It's no surprise that sometime in the next chapter, York & the Elders will try to destroy the Iron Giant in an effort to end Vegapunk's message for good. But regardless on how the broadcast ends, do you think that what Vegapunk said until now will be what inspires the world to rebel against the Government, and/or at least save themselves from another massive flood?
3. If Rayleigh & Shakky were at Sabody, then it is possible that the Boa sisters & Gloriosa are tagging along with Hancock in her journey to find & "marry" Luffy, which could become an unexpected set up for the next Arc, regardless on where the SH & their allies will go after Egghead! If so, then this could be a great opportunity for some Hancock related theories to be confirmed one way or another!
4. If Vegapunk is able to take his share of the blame for what happened to Lulusia, then it might be possible for him to make amends with the Kuja Tribe who were harmed by the Seraphim. Whether or not the citizens of Amazon Lily will be able to forgive him.
The Kuja tribe are pirates, they know the rules of the games whereas Lulusia were innocent citizens.
@@caesarjergens even the citizens of Amazon Lily weren't entirely pirates. Wouldn't that count as innocent?
@@dfile7598 aren't they a pirate island? They know their queen is a pirate and they support her and her crew.
30:21 but lily is like 800 years ago and the Capital of Arabasta is build way earlier. So the flooding of the World must have been known way earlier.
Imagine this: in this scene, Stussy represents Joyboy and Kaku is an ancient weapon - I love it
Anyone else thinking that Blackbeard is on the move at this moment? What if he already got the info about the two locations for the ancient weapons. Maybe that’s why we haven’t then? Maybe it’s because they are taking advantage that everyone is distracted which is a perfect time to make a move on the fishmen or in Wano.
It would be wicked cool to watch the transponder snail get taken out, only to see the transmission cut over to Dragon & the RA. If VP stashed the snail in the robot right before meeting Luffy, then it'd be accurate to say that Shaka was speaking to Dragon about the same time.
I AM PRAYING
Dude you were absolutely cooking this week. This was hands down the best chapter analysis vid in recent memory
20:45 This makes me wonder about the origins of the memory wiping device. I doubt he made it on the spot when he found out about The mother flame being stolen, but if the vegapunks don’t realize the brain is the “real vegapunk” that could be a huge part of their origin
That could explains why it's called laugh tale... you laugh at the fact that you're powerless before a catastrophic future.
Why would that make everyone laugh so hysterically, unlikely
I called it, i knew vegapunk his the transponder snail in the iron giant and thematically made sense, for the story it made sense. Once the broadcast started after it was confirmed the message plays after his death, I then knew whatever was broadcasting the message had to be in the ancient robot
U we’re right about the ancient robot , nice call man
I already left a long comment but I gotta glaze rn lol JoyBoy you are truly cookin man. I feel like you are hands down one of the most underrated one piece TH-camrs. You don’t get everything right and who does? lol but your train of thought is so addicting and always reignites my passion for the series intellectually. In my mind you’re like the One piece Nostradamus lol keep up the great work man
thanks for the love bro
At episode 207 at 16:50 second. Luffy enters the house at long ring island. On the door looks to be shadow characters similar to Imu. Then ussop freaks out and tells luffy not to go in because the boss of the island could live in the house. Guess what he describes the boss like. A terrible long snake like man monster that will shallow us whole. Didn't Imu kind of stretch out like a long snake monster that shallow kobra whole.
10:34 I think Rayleigh knew about the Nika Fruit, so he was saying "as you are now" as in "without having Awakened your true powers!" Now that Luffy has Awakened his fruit, whatever knowledge Vegapunk shares could be acted upon now when it couldn't back on Sabaody.
Either Luffy didn't die or Joyboy's will didn't consider Luffy worthy to awaken the fruit.
Vegapunk regretting the consequences of making the mother flame parallels Einstein regretting laying out the theory for the nuclear bomb.
Now I Am Become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.
Dak's Sake has a theory that Crocodile is Rocks' son. If Rocks knew about Pluton, then that could also be how he learned about it.
Been waiting for this like Christmas Day
The loss of memory Must be the previous user awakening Pudding’s fruit.
It just seems to clean, it might even require the third eye to use it optimally.
Damn, JB, I really like the ideas about creation of Life and by extension your creations have the ability to defy or betray you. Like A.I. may one day find humans obsolete (God forbid) to even the Biblical theory that God made Humans and then we threw the world into sin with Adam & Eve.
Great theory also that the AWs are sentient things. It’d finish the theory because Poseidon being the only living weapon makes no sense. And maybe Momonosuke is an AW too. I can see Zoe being an Ancient Ship Weapon because of its size defense and power.
Oda stays cookin' and stirring in that pot. The soup from this Arc is beyond words @ this point. 👌👌🙏🙏
@33:55 What if that person who got that close to the Poneglyphs was a marine, namely: Kong, the old Fleet Admiral? Pretty sure he's still alive.
I got an epiphany this morning. You all need to hear this. Regarding Vegapunk and another one o his potnential influences that inspired him. There this Professor Character named Abdallah Nightingale(Nyhtallah in the translated version I read). His is a mentor figure for the protagonist of a book callen the 13 1/2 lifes of Captain Bluebear written by Walter Moers. It was first published when the anime started. The coincidence to me is that I read it around the time of T.B. where Vegapunk was first mentioned( I did not watched the series back then)[15-16 years ago] The guy strikes a resemplance to Ainstein obviously but he has 7 brains cOmE oN.The whole Zamonia universe is crazy to One Piece level from its varietty of creatures and cultures.
I've been thinking lately about the Dressrosa arc being a microcosm of the entire One Piece story.
Remember how Doflamingo manipulated King Riku to seem like the villain so he'd swoop in like the hero, but was actually a master manipulator? What if the same thing happened with Joy Boy and the 20 kingdoms? They set a trap for Joy Boy, and made him seem like a monster, and that's why his friends (Zunisha, the giant robot) abandoned him, and that's Zunisha's crime, and the reason that the robot attacked Marijeoise was out of guilt?
it works for me 100%
@@JoyBoyTheories also it would somewhat explain what Vegapunk meant when he said that there was no good guy or bad guy. Because both did horrible things. One because of course (world government) and the other because was forced to (Joy Boy), but Stella wouldn't know because he hasn't read the Rio Poneglyph. But the Roger pirates sure did, and see Joy Boy as a great guy
that Frakny-Pluton x Vegapunk-Mother Flame parallel is so good
Swords in OP are similar to devil fruits in the fact that they carry a will/spirit from a previous user.
Even if Punk records is the real Stella (which I want to be the case), it doesn't explain how Vegapunk was able to lie to York on its own. I wonder if some memory modification was involved, so Vegapunk could act surprised and not have his cover blown.
The Stella we know is actually ego, that's why it truly believed it was the main primary being and because he was the first one activated the others assumed he was right. The reason Vega punk would have made ego his first clone so that he could clearly look past himself to the truth of the world and the death of the "stella" body is representative of ego death which finally frees the primary Vega punk to act without concern for anything but the truth, a scientist dream.
First now go listen to the one piece of mind podcast. lol! Keep rocking JB!
They should really do a void century spin off
I think vegapunk knew he was betrayed but didn’t expect it to be his satellite
So the bit about Wano got me thinking about having allies who are waiting for another great war, and yeah the inheretors of the Will of D are those ppl but what if some other ppl we met in the story were allies who can some how come back for the war, like zuneisha, iron giant, some oars dependant or anicient giant, maybe yeti cool brothers? Idk just spit balling
So seems like York was the one who stole part of the "mother flame" and gave it to Imu/WG in which they used on Lulusia kingdom which was Uranus
Congrats to those who guessed the final den den mushi was gonna be with the Ancient Robot
Rayleigh out here getting drunk and getting pissed at Vega punk for dishing out spoilers lol
Roger and Rayleigh knowing about the war and not doing about it is probably because Roger was already dying at that time and also say him and the Roger pirates were too early
The roger pirates found out the true history, vagapunk is only speculating what he thinks is true
10:52 To Vegapunk defense, the situation has changed with the creation of the motherflame and the activation of an ancient weapon.
Bbl roger is crazy 🤣
you're welcome lmao
I swear JB that you make the wildest connections in OP 😅
Oda bringing the whole world up to speed like this is fantastic. So curious to see where we go from here
I think we can make interesting theories if we take what York said as hints.
1) VP didnt know it was York, but he did know that SOMEONE must have. I think we should be asking HOW can they both not have known about each other through the daily updates at the end of the day? The easy answer is that VP just found out in the current day. The hard answer is that VP really knew about the WGs plans like York suggested and apparently let it happen????
2) Since there is something funky going on about the timeline as York said, there could be some time traveling shenanigans going on… it is VP who is based on Einstein after all.. with the whole time and space theme…
since the answer isnt clear, i think the explanation will be something wild. im too dumb to think of anything good… looking forward to the answer
Joyboy, I wanted to hear your thoughts on this head canon of Imu’s end goal (I dont know if this is being said in the community already but this chapter made me further believe in this possibility):
What if the goal of the “great cleansing” is for IMU to recoup all the devil fruits? DF Users, who cant swim, would definitely drown. The ones that dont drown, would eventually die, and the Devil fruit cycle restarts. If Imu has control of all the lands above sea level, by default he/she may possess all trees, and therefore all Devil Fruits. Eventually Imu can posess Sun God Nika’s fruit and defeat their nemesis. It also ties back to what Dr. Vegapunk said, that he cant really tell if that person is evil or not. Cleansing the world from the “Devil fruits”… is it an evil thing? Passing down the Ancient Weapons to fight back against Imu and keep the DF, is that evil?
Side note about Luffy, Nika and the Mother Flame: I wonder if Luffy’s “fire” attacks are him starting to channel that power. Eventually we are going to see a “Mother Flame Gatling” attack, which can REALLY damage the Gorosei and Imu
Don’t forget there’s a secret tunnel out of Alabasta.
We’re making this too complicated. Shaka was the one that found out about York stealing the fragment. Shaka doesn’t share this information with York, but he also doesn’t tell Stella who it was knowing Stella will give the game away. Instead Shaka (Logic) informs Stella about the steal and tells him to act accordingly.
OH MY GOD. IT ALL CLICKED WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE ROCKS PIRATES.
I think Crocodile was at the God Valley incident. He would have been 8 years old, could have been one of the slaves or locals that Kuma saved. Ivankov was there too, and that's where Iva and Kuma got their devil fruits, so he could have gotten his sand fruit the same way. What if Crocodile's secret is that he was there on God Valley and Iva helped him escape. He would've heard what Rocks had to say as well.
Random theory that Rocks was a geologist who figured out about the floods through that.
Plutón being a Klabautermann, Poseidon (and by extension all of the fishmen (and maybe even EVERY other race)) being creations of science, and JoyBoy suffering the same fate as Oden are all theories that make way too much sense!
JB, do you think the ancient weapons combine or need each other to function for its intended purposes?
Thanks for the awesome video.
bro, I hope so!!!! That'd be classic lmao
Nice theory! i imagined a Docking combination like the classic straw hat combination
A huge ship with a drill (pluton) with a laser beam (uranus) and propelled by the sea beasts
a mega weapon to destroy the redline in one shot
or something like that 😂
options for knowing about york's betrayal: (a) stella didn't know but one of the punks other than stella knew, like shaka or some 7th satellite working in the shadows. not implausible that the masked shaka would be a better liar. (b) stella wiped part of his own memory so as to not tip off the traitor. we know they have that capability from kuma's backstory.
❤ was waiting for your review, viewed many others. Others just hit different =/ thank you for your work!
I swear every time I watch your thoughts and theories I feel like my brain is exploding, in a good way. Keep it up JoyBoy!
Remember, Lily had a brother. I wonder if anything happened with him. I think Lily got captured/surrendered to the WG and Imu body swapped with Lily and got the eternal youth surgery. Or she founded Amazon Lily
Punk Records(the brain) is Vega Punk without his clumsiness.
My assumption reading the chapter was that York couldn't know Vegapunk's plans precisely because she did not synchronize (in other words, it's a two way process).
You lowkey are supporting my secondary theory on how the WG got Uranus at the end of the vid, my first being that Imu stole in during the Void Century and the 2nd theory is that Imu/gorosei had cipher pol steal it from Hachinosu as the rocks pirates had Uranus and it was used to destroy God Valley, how without the mother flames? Idk but maybe Xebec was a lunerian and they used his corpse as fuel for Uranus
Maybe puddings devil fruit or an awakened third eye member or both could make the world forget the flood
Will we finally see a 'ONLY DEAD' bounty reveal for the Roger pirates in the upcoming chapters?
I think Rocks was the only dead!
Wait....there was a den den mushi in the Throne Room that took a picture of Sabo over Cobra's body....who owns that den den mushi? And why was it conveniently there to incriminate Sabo?
Something doesn't add up there still.....what if that den den mushi is Vegapunk's?
There's still a reason Vegapunk wanted people to have visual transponder snails......what if Vegapunk secretly recorded the whole exchange between Cobra and Imu, including when Sabo intervened? A photo "incriminating Sabo" was then sent to Morgans to ward off suspicion from the Gorosei about that snail.
Vagapunk didn't know but more than likely had it as a theory so he didn't lie as he doesn't see theory as fact but can make plans for if it is true.
6:13 I just started watching but idk how I got this thought just from what you said so far but what if Uranus it supposed to be used like a solid Hologram. listen so Uranus is a sky-toll and just as it could destroy a whole island-it can also create islands from the light (mother-flame) 🤔💭🤨 (I’m also hi so this could just be hi thoughts 😂)
I will be fascinated to see how oda ties the awful situation of the void century and rodgers reaction tbh
kaido said wano was special for a reason, i believe he at the very least knew the pluton was burried in wano somewhere, hence why he had slaves mining the country
I would point out that we already have a sentient being from the void century that is fully robotic, and just became the #1 target of the Gorosei
I wonder if punk records is the true Stella if he'll self destruct the Mother Flame.
My take is that the former Roger pirates would be persecuted by the government. They were chilling for 20 years without a worry, but now Vegapunk rat them out, and they have to move.
Since they know everything they likely stayed quiet because revealing too much too soon could backfire. The World Government is heavily implied to have the power to create mass extinction events here and if the second coming of Joyboy dies too soon then there is nothing that can stop them.
He Just Laughed at The World.....
The wording felt intentional on page 4. Is Oda dropping hints that the One Piece is the sole surviving Piece of the Ancient Kingdom’s True Mother Flame?
All this makes me wonder if Imu isn't the king of the Ancient Kingdom who somehow survived or maybe someone similar in nature to the Architect in the Matrix, where every millenia or so the ancient weapons are used to "wipe the slate clean". Destroy all the current civilizations and then try to ferret away any evidence of their existence. If the races exist because they were created, maybe after every time the world is wiped clean, there is some sort of machine (maybe on the moon/moons) that recreates the native races using genetic blueprints. The people are then given or taught false/incomplete history that conveniently leaves out any evidence of Imu and Gorosei involvement, with the exception that they are leaders. That could be why no one has any memory of any catastrophic flood.
"The world was always flooded. What are you talking about? There is no war in Ba Sing Se!"
Imu is Lili’s sibling, and they miss her and want Vivi to replace her
Lili had only one confirmed sibling,her younger brother,who became the king of Alabasta in her stead,and the direct ancestor of Vivi.
@@BAlex2209 confirmed yes, but oda is known to hide things pretty well. But that was my first thought when I saw the portrait
Now that the WG government knows that Roger's crew knows everything, Rayley, Buggy and Shanks will be an urgent target to erase 😁😁 poor Buggy 🤣
So law in sword is my main loved theory from you
This is up there though. You a five star chef.
Wait you make the thumbnails yourself?
It's a judis situation vegapunk was suspicion yet unknowing of who would betray him
Also Imu is Luffy's mom while also Lili. Ill stand by this theory.
If I'm right jb has to call me Mr.Flip
Luffy is going VOAT his desire for Vegapunk to stop talking and the Iron Giant will destroy the transponder snail.
Now Franky come into play. Did the WG want frankys blueprints of pluton because they need them to properly apply the mother flame? Were they worried that he would share it and hp create a way to destroy it if it came into play? Is this why Toms execution was so straight forward?
The only way I can think of, with existing knowledge, of how to affect EVERYONE'S memory is with Sugar's DF. Which COULD imply the One Piece is Joy Boy himself. If he ends up being a giant, he could be a giant toy now. Too big to move off the island. Maybe a poneglyph-sized jack-in-the-box?
The Ancient kingdom name could be the One Piece. That would explain evrything weird in the wording with Roger execution , and why the gorosei really didnt want Pr.Clover to say the name of the ancient kingdom. The ''One Piece is real'' works too , a Ancient advanced kingdom is as real as it gets , and its also a treasure.
If the case , Roger Execution was the Biggest F**k you in One Piece history we thought we knew, but we didnt understand it fully.
That little thing that itches at the back of my mind did frankie incorporate plouton into the sunny
What I'm still curious about, is why did Vegapunk want visual den den mushi's so much? Was it just a face reveal? Does he have something to show the world? Was the image of the sunken civilization just for the audience, or did Vegapunk get footage somehow?
So it is possible that the Vegapunk that got turned into a baby is still alive and well, and that the Vegapunk who was captured by York was not the same person as the Vegapunk that was turned into a baby. We never saw Vegapunk being kidnapped by York, which could imply that the Vegapunk who was captured by York is a different entity from the Vegapunk that teleported into the iron guant. It is possible that Vegapunk who was turned into a kid somehow avoided detection, saw what happened at egghead, then somehow traveled back in time and watped himself into the iron giant, thereby giving him time to create the broadcast.
Maybe the fact weapons were used the way they were WAS the reason why he apologized?
my theory is there is a 7th vegapunk having the aspect "the fool",,cuz u know the more genius is someone,the more they think theyre fool,this clone however act solitarily from other satellites,therefore they didnt have syncronized thoughts,which explained "the fools" aspect,,2 supposedly "dead" satellites,shaka n phytagoras feed him the datas as theyre the only satellites shown in the vid,so the recorded vid is not actually recorded but it is live from inside the iron giant by the 7th vegapunk
Like Parvision likes to say, "everything connects"
It's been PAINFULLY OBVIOUS since Zou that Momonosuke is Pluton simply by the fact that he can TALK AND COMMAND AN ANCIENT GIANT CREATURE like Shirahoshi.
The theme was CLEAR since Fishman ISland
SEA, LAND, SKY
Poseidon, god of the SEA and the conduit, the avatar is a MERMAID
Pluton, god of the underworld, and people have to think LITERALLY THE WORLD BELOW, in other words the LAND, a human commands an ELEPHANT, a LAND creature.
Uranus, god of the SKY, the avatar will be a WINGED PERSON who commands dragons, all the sings are there. The biggest one if Dragon 13 from Punk Hazard
Vegapunk said he tried to recreate an ancient weapon but failed. Why? Because he cloned a dragon and not the person who commands them.
It's like trying to clone Poseidon and clone a sea king instead of Shirahoshi.
EVERYTHING. CONNECTS.
The ancient weapons have a true purpose, one of creation but any tool can be used for destruction as well and thats all how vegapunk saw them as well. Using all 3 ancient weapons may be used to terraform the planet so that Joyboy may create One Piece, a pangea for his allies most notably the fishmen, Vegapunk using climate change tech forshadows terraforming imo
22:55 the Brain being the true Vegapunk is a good theory but Stella is always connected to his brain via his apple top antenna. I think York is giving Stella too much credit in his genius as stella knew someone stole a piece of the mother flame but not who or why and york thought Stella planned on countering the WGs plans when she misunderstood Vegapunk's intentions as he only planned for a global transparent apology with his imminent death and he must of been hanging out in the junkyard long enough for York to deduce the broadcast snail's location
But what about Blackbeard? His reactions have yet to be shown to any of the revealed info and also with the info that Van Auger is about to deliver BB will act fast.
edit:Ah ypu did mention BB
Aight listen up. This is the real spoiler.
The Three Ancient Weapons can combine into a Megazord. The One Piece is a set of instructions that tells people how to take those three pieces and put them together as one.
Joyboy was a man, and all men love robots. It is known. Therefore no matter how dangerous it was, Joyboy had to keep the Ancient Weapons around because a Megazord is cool.
How does Poseidon being a living being factor into this? Good question.
A very... Very good question. That I leave as an exercise to the reader.
I want this to be correct very badly