I would really love a video on the Healesville Freeway. The reservation to the East of Eastlink is completely intact which suggests one day it may be built
Makes me wish that they had build this road. Sometimes I have to drive from Reservoir to Oakleigh for work and this route would have made a world of difference.
love your work Philip! Good to see some local Melbourne content. I'm in the construction industry and I love seeing all these historical planning documents - there's still plenty of work that could be done on Melb roads (east-west link really needs to happen in some format, just not by destroying Brunswick/Fitzroy!).
A well needed freeway tbh. The Frankston/Peninsula link section. Please - I hope no one thinks the Nepean Hwy was ever going to be adequate for the development and holiday traffic down there.
Working with the Vic Roads Department on the road development plans in Melbourne's outer growth area, I found them the most obdurate and inflexible people to deal with and incapable of imagining possibilities beyond their mile grids.
Interesting video. My first thought was “yikes, safety beach doesn’t need a freeway”, then I realised there already was one, and it went further! Even so, I’m glad the Darebin Creek and former outer circle alignments have been preserved in a more natural state.
Living in Thomastown since the early 80's, this proposal for a freeway from Thomaston to Safety Beach would have definitely opened up a door or you might say a corridor for all within easy access to it for quick summer travel to beaches that while not impossible to get to, but way too much effort involved. From the north end of town, it's a much better experience (in my personal opinion) to hit the ring road and head west! Geelong and the rest of the west coast than trying to go east! We will see how things improve with the completion of the ring road to the eastern freeway!
Enjoyed that a lot. Back in the early 70s my mates and I would go for a rip down the Dromana freeway and back, just for fun. Could you perhaps do a follow up on those old semi-abandoned works? They had already formed up piles of dirt for the proposed bridge over Jetty Rd, and the alignment continues until it merges with Melbourne Rd.
I lived in South Oakleigh with my parents until I was married in 1979. The F6 would have resulted in my parents house being demolished. I recall that my Mother started a petition to try to get the F6 either stopped or re-routed. I also recall that the land reserved for the F6 in East Bentleigh south of Centre Road opposite Mackie Road was also part of the F6. The parcel of land I'm thinking of is now Warrawee nursing home. Coatesville Primary School in Mackie Road would also have been affected.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing! That sounds right as a lot of the land previously reserved for these unbuilt freeways was later sold off, although quite a bit is still retained today
I still recall the bottleneck Nepean hwy was from Frankston all the way to St.Kilda and beyond so I cant relate much sympathy for those who had to depart their homes for Nepean hwy widening . It was tragic the destruction of the vast wagon wheel manufacturing industry when Henry Ford showed his ugly head, as was the almost over night disappearance of the thousands of lifetime careers in vinyl record manufacture due to CD's but we have face facts like for example, although there were billions of dollars lost in the carburettor manufacturing industry extinction due to fuel injection technology , this technology has halved fuel consumption so in turned doubled the potential supply.
The northern terminus of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway has changed a bit before the Mordialloc Freeway alignment - the original plan was to head straight north from the Patterson River and join the Dingley Freeway at the bend just south of Cheltenham Road - shot shown at all in the 1969 plan. Back then the Scoresby Freeway would have terminated at the Dingley Freeway. Post 1969 plan the Scoresby Freeway was extended to Seaford as built with the current Mordialloc Freeway alignment developed in the mid 1970s.
Be interesting to see all the houses that got removed to build the Tullamarine Freeway the 60 because I know that Carmen Street Dandenong and the Frankston Freeway some of the houses are they got demolished removed
Why? So you want the surface traffic instead? Because it ain’t going away. And why would anyone buy land near a fwy that’s been on maps for 40 years then complain? Are they like those churlish people that buy land near airports then complain about planes?
@@xr6lad why should the traffic go away? The more traffic there is on the existing roads the more it will deter others from driving down. Increasing road capacity will just overload everything else down there. Believe me I don't care for the people that have bought places next to the reserve!
@@npmontgomery wishful thinking on your part. 4-5 million metro Melbourne and growing and you think traffic will lessen? No: it will get to the stage where you will not get out of your driveway.
It’s interesting what they’re proposing as an alternative to the freeway from Rosebud. I think it’s clear they’re not going to cut a road through the wetlands at Tootgarook.
I remember that It was the Hamer government in 1975 that cancelled this freeway as a much if it would have destroyed blue ribbon liberal seats in the inner east
A very confusing video: trying to remember not only the ("forgotten") freeways that were never built but different versions of those freeways.....that were never built.
I would really love a video on the Healesville Freeway. The reservation to the East of Eastlink is completely intact which suggests one day it may be built
Loving these Video Phillip, am a big fan of local history.. Well done and keep them coming
Thank you very much, glad you enjoy them!
Loving this series would love some info on the Healesville hwy
Interesting content as always xx thank you for your hard work xx
Thank you for this, as I have used it on a number of occasions on Twitter to support the reason why Melbourne Needs the suburban rail loop...
Mornington Peninsula freeway should be extended to Melbourne rd.
Makes me wish that they had build this road. Sometimes I have to drive from Reservoir to Oakleigh for work and this route would have made a world of difference.
Thanks for the history lesson about the East Preston rail line our home was two houses from the proposed line back then!
A very informative video - thankyou!
love your work Philip! Good to see some local Melbourne content. I'm in the construction industry and I love seeing all these historical planning documents - there's still plenty of work that could be done on Melb roads (east-west link really needs to happen in some format, just not by destroying Brunswick/Fitzroy!).
A well needed freeway tbh. The Frankston/Peninsula link section. Please - I hope no one thinks the Nepean Hwy was ever going to be adequate for the development and holiday traffic down there.
Working with the Vic Roads Department on the road development plans in Melbourne's outer growth area, I found them the most obdurate and inflexible people to deal with and incapable of imagining possibilities beyond their mile grids.
Interesting video. My first thought was “yikes, safety beach doesn’t need a freeway”, then I realised there already was one, and it went further! Even so, I’m glad the Darebin Creek and former outer circle alignments have been preserved in a more natural state.
Chandler Hwy Bridge crossing the Yarra only took a “million years” to get done.YAY MELBOURNE!
Living in Thomastown since the early 80's, this proposal for a freeway from Thomaston to Safety Beach would have definitely opened up a door or you might say a corridor for all within easy access to it for quick summer travel to beaches that while not impossible to get to, but way too much effort involved. From the north end of town, it's a much better experience (in my personal opinion) to hit the ring road and head west! Geelong and the rest of the west coast than trying to go east!
We will see how things improve with the completion of the ring road to the eastern freeway!
Is the Tooronga Rd extension still viable?
Enjoyed that a lot. Back in the early 70s my mates and I would go for a rip down the Dromana freeway and back, just for fun. Could you perhaps do a follow up on those old semi-abandoned works? They had already formed up piles of dirt for the proposed bridge over Jetty Rd, and the alignment continues until it merges with Melbourne Rd.
Can you do a video about the m80
I lived in South Oakleigh with my parents until I was married in 1979. The F6 would have resulted in my parents house being demolished. I recall that my Mother started a petition to try to get the F6 either stopped or re-routed. I also recall that the land reserved for the F6 in East Bentleigh south of Centre Road opposite Mackie Road was also part of the F6. The parcel of land I'm thinking of is now Warrawee nursing home. Coatesville Primary School in Mackie Road would also have been affected.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing! That sounds right as a lot of the land previously reserved for these unbuilt freeways was later sold off, although quite a bit is still retained today
I still recall the bottleneck Nepean hwy was from Frankston all the way to St.Kilda and beyond so I cant relate much sympathy for those who had to depart their homes for Nepean hwy widening .
It was tragic the destruction of the vast wagon wheel manufacturing industry when Henry Ford showed his ugly head, as was the almost over night disappearance of the thousands of lifetime careers in vinyl record manufacture due to CD's but we have face facts like for example, although there were billions of dollars lost in the carburettor manufacturing industry extinction due to fuel injection technology , this technology has halved fuel consumption so in turned doubled the potential supply.
Please do a video on F9
Green protests saving the Merri creek corridors at the same time
The northern terminus of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway has changed a bit before the Mordialloc Freeway alignment - the original plan was to head straight north from the Patterson River and join the Dingley Freeway at the bend just south of Cheltenham Road - shot shown at all in the 1969 plan. Back then the Scoresby Freeway would have terminated at the Dingley Freeway. Post 1969 plan the Scoresby Freeway was extended to Seaford as built with the current Mordialloc Freeway alignment developed in the mid 1970s.
Be interesting to see all the houses that got removed to build the Tullamarine Freeway the 60 because I know that Carmen Street Dandenong and the Frankston Freeway some of the houses are they got demolished removed
The Melway still shows the road reservation on the MP Freeway through to Blairgowrie, here's hoping they never build that one.
Why? So you want the surface traffic instead? Because it ain’t going away. And why would anyone buy land near a fwy that’s been on maps for 40 years then complain? Are they like those churlish people that buy land near airports then complain about planes?
@@xr6lad why should the traffic go away? The more traffic there is on the existing roads the more it will deter others from driving down. Increasing road capacity will just overload everything else down there. Believe me I don't care for the people that have bought places next to the reserve!
@@npmontgomery wishful thinking on your part. 4-5 million metro Melbourne and growing and you think traffic will lessen? No: it will get to the stage where you will not get out of your driveway.
It’s interesting what they’re proposing as an alternative to the freeway from Rosebud. I think it’s clear they’re not going to cut a road through the wetlands at Tootgarook.
It's what gave Tootgarook is name, literally.
I remember that It was the Hamer government in 1975 that cancelled this freeway as a much if it would have destroyed blue ribbon liberal seats in the inner east
Philip. Thanks for your excellent review. [ps. I wrote a very long 'comment' but my PC crashed just before I posted it.]
60 Years later and we still desperately need these roads.
Im glad freeways didnt take over melbourne like in america. Yet
Why? You expecting less cars as the city population grows beyond 5 million?
@@xr6lad Yes, Tokyo has 30 million with less freeways.
A very confusing video: trying to remember not only the ("forgotten") freeways that were never built but different versions of those freeways.....that were never built.