The F2 - Melbourne's Forgotten Freeways
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- The F2 was one of the most controversial proposals to come out of the 1969 Melbourne Transportation Plan. Although much of it was officially cancelled in the 1970s and 1990s, most of it was eventually built.
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I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which this video was filmed, the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people. I pay respects to Elders past, present and emerging, and their extensive and continuing connection to land, water and country.
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My website: philipmallis.com
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Surprises me to hear that Hoddle Street was once a local shopping strip sort of thing compared to the ugly, noisy and dirty monster it is today. Glad that sort of widening didn't happen to other inner suburban shopping strips. I genuinely wonder for some of these freeways why planners ever thought they were a good idea beyond being a nice connecting line on a map.
Nah you can tell. Simply by looking at all the old shops and homes on the Collingwood Town hall side that there would have been something similar all along the opposite side. Same as Nepean highway between the junction and Balaclava road where one side has Victorian shops but the opposite doesn’t. They were all knocked down to widen it in the 60’s.
It also happened to St Kilda Junction/High Street (Brighton Road) in St Kilda (edit: as I have just noticed that the previous posterhas said). I imagine St Kilda Junction then would have been like Moonee Ponds Junction now.
Anyone got photos of this original, narrow Hoddle Street?
@@Simcitywok Here's one from 1886 viewer.slv.vic.gov.au/?entity=IE1874871&mode=browse and one from 1906 www.picturevictoria.vic.gov.au/site/yarra_melbourne/Collingwood/9397.html There may be others at PROV or the State Library. Hope that helps!
the break up into little bits was a clear deliberate plan once community opposition began ... the roads obsession has doomed Melbourne to a disastrous congested mess and continues with "NorthLink".
Went to a great party in a doomed house on the west side of Hoddle Street. It was billed as a demolition party and was wild, all while people with rope and winches removed bluestone blocks and plinths from the surrounding houses..... the next day the machines moved in. Today you drive (very slowly) over the site heading north before the school.
Interesting video. Having the road building lobby essentially embedded in the public service as the CRB and VicRoads has certainly had the effect of these zombie projects never disappearing, or being adjusted to match current urban planning thinking. The fact that they still have planning overlays (and properties owned) for them indicates someone there still think they are a good idea. Imagine if similar effort, planning and money had been put into building a decent public transport network. It still amazes me that despite over 50 years of building freeways, Vic government planners still haven't really figured out that they just generate traffic and reinforce (and encourage) the totally ad-hoc suburban development at the fringes. I mean it really is telling they had a road plan for a city that didn't actually have an urban growth plan -- as though somehow the two things weren't related.
I remember playing in the abandoned house along Hoddle street near the Collingwood town hall in the early 70's., playing footy on the then barricaded Alexander parade and wandering along the freeway construction site near Dights falls all the way to Willsmere. In those days, kids could get into just about anywhere and no one really cared.
"Sydney Road is condemned as the most congested road in all of Melbourne in 1929."
It kinda still is lol.
Great video but I question the relevance of the Sydney Harbour Bridge that appears between 2:00 and 2:15.
I know plans for our freeway system were vast but I doubt they extended to Sydney.
At the time I had a friend who worked at the CRB in Kew and I often saw maps on office walls showing all these and many more freeways when I visited him.
Keep up the good work, your videos bring back many happy memories.
How classic Melbourne, let's knock down a beautiful building for a fxcking slip lane.
South end of Elizabeth Street is another example of this, that used to look beautiful
And what was almost as bad is that instead of constructing a nice building on the remaining land, they left a hole in the streetscape by making a totally useless park
Outstanding video as always! We live near the Merri Pde section and I noticed the wide grass reservation but never underpass where the bike path goes under the railway.
You have some commenters here determined not to learn the lessons of the past, who seem to think giving over our cities to cars is a good thing! I call it Musk-brain...
Thanks!
more fascinating history of Melbourne - thanks for your research and sharing! Scary to see how much "land" still has compulsory acquisition overlays...
In 1989, I remember visiting Kodak as a sales engineer that used to be on Elizabeth Street in Cobourg, and part of the plant went over the Merri Creek. I remember on one visit, my contact in Kodak telling me that there was a freeway planned down Merri Creek at the time, and I was always interested what that was. Now I understand it must've been the F2 freeway.
Kodak was on Newlands rd.
@@frednutz1604 Sorry friend, it was Elisabeth street as you can the site outline and the street names of the housing estate are a dead giveaway, but if you choose the street view and wind the Street view back to Nov 2007, you can still see the remains of the Admin block, but the site has been cleared.. I should know, I won a $50 000 order for a Fluke Calibrator from that site... and later I worked there as a Technical Writer in 1997... the road, Spectrum Way did not exist, and the bridge over Edgars Creek went to another plant Kodak had... it was Edgars creek that I was told the freeway would be going down... what is now Camera Walk, used to have a kodacolour plant that used to employ a lot of blind people as they were used to working in the dark..
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@@hypercomms2001 No offence meant friend.
I'm a truck driver & have been since I came to this country in 1980 & I have made many deliveries to Kodak on Newlands Rd.
You entered via Photography Dr off Newlands Rd.
The buildings are now Conga Foods.
Maybe the Elizabeth St site you refer to was offices & where I'm talking about was the factory.
@@frednutz1604 we are describing what was until early 2000s a very large factory, your experience was different from mine, but we both experienced the extent of Kodak, is imprint you can still see you today in the housing state that exist now. I was very much interested in photography at the time, and So, going to Kodak was a dream for me. I kinda feel sad that the longer exists. But if you stood where Portrait Way is now is where the admin block stood when I worked there as a technical Author in 1997. On Elizabeth Street next to the admin block was a number of research laboratories, which included a calibration lab, and behind them was a plant that involved manufacturing Kodachrome, and parallel to it was another plant that produce Kodacolour. At the back that was a research lab that was doing research into digital movie production. The bridge over Edgar Road belonged to Kodak, and yes there was a plant I cannot remember what it manufactured, and a warehouse which is what you must've visited, which fronted on Newland Road. It is remarkable the impact that digital photography had film photography, Kodak were trying to develop a number of new product ranges for digital photography, and digital services. Sadly they failed, and the factory, which I understand has been there for a long time close forever. Such is Life!
PS: as an complete aside, as it has been a log time since I have been back to that part of Coburg [I went to work in Canberra, and then the UK], I find it reeeeaaaallly weird that HMP Pentridge has been turned into a Cinema Complex!
@@frednutz1604 You're both right. "In 1976-77, Kodak threatened to move again - to Campbellfield - after the Country Roads Board thwarted its masterplan for the Elizabeth Street site by acquiring 6.3 hectares along Edgars Creek for a proposed freeway. Council instead offered to rezone a site on the other side of the creek - the McKay's Dairy farm fronting Newlands Road, which was originally planned for a residential subdivision. The farm was subsequently sold to multiple parties including Kodak in the 1960s. After a land swap with Council, Kodak expanded to occupy sites on both sides of the creek in 1978."
I’ve been interested in the 1969 freeway plan for years, and there’s not a lot of information online regarding it. My mum moved to a house opposite Rushall Station in Westgarth in 1990, I often tried to picture a freeway running through the area. I imagine my mums house would of been demolished if the F2 was built. The F12 is an interesting one along Brunswick Rd/Holden St and the Clifton Hill turn off from Hoddle to Heidelberg Rd is very old fashioned and reminds my of the old South Eastern exit at Chapel St that was removed in the 1990’s. Great work my guy
Great video as usual. Recognised some of those areas as I currently live in Elsternwick. Use the Dingley/Dandenong bypass to get to parents. All I’ll say is watch this space: like the old Calder and the Sth East arterial, bit by bit this will be upgraded to freeway by converting intersections to over passes - there’s room for it. Plus you missed out the Westall bypass north of the Dingley bypass. Where this hits the Princess highway it’s designed to continue and actually join the Monash freeway around Ferntree Gully road. Look at an aerial view and you can see the land reserved for that.
Thanks for that! And yes that part of the Westall Bypass north of the Dingley Bypass is part of the F7 Freeway that was proposed to run all the way up to Eltham via Box Hill and Glen Waverley
*Princes.
Common mistake. 👍🏼
@@philipmallis cool. Didn’t know that bit. Thought there looks to be a ‘sort’ of path north of the Monash part of the way that is now parkland. I wondered about that.
@@mattjns yes you are correct. And yes I’ve often seen others corrected myself so it was tardy Of me.
@@xr6lad I jest sir. 😂👍🏼
I'm old enough to remember the commercials on TV for the Holden HZ series: featuring Radial Tuned Suspension. The comercial was filmed on the Eastern Freeway, near the Belford Rd bridge. The Eastern was almost completed: the first stage from Hoddle St to Bulleen Rd, which was opened in 1977.
The traffic in Melbourne is one of the things that stops me returning, along with mad house prices and a rickety public transport system.
It seems alarming that we tend to still think this is acceptable, all I want is to be able to exercise when commuting to wherever I want by using a bike but it’s genuinely terrifying to use it with cars.
The old footage of Melbourne shows a city for the people and now the cars have destroyed much of Melbourne's character. 😞
It's surprising the trams persisted, because of your look at the USA, especially los Angeles, everything was ripped out. Sad stuff
Wondering why the shot of Sydney Harbour Bridge when that part says re Board of Works, & Sydney Rd Melbourne. Tho of course eventually get to Sydney, from Sydney Rd :)
Hi, just part of the footage of traffic in that period in Australia from the NFSA :) And yes also partially a tangential reference to Sydney Road...
I think that the Dandenong bypass needs to be extended to Narre Warren Cranbourne road. It should run parallel to O'gradys road, Centre road and Fullard road.
Another road can branch off the bypass at the power lines and connect to Pound Road. This will then connect the bypass to the O'Shea's road extension currently being constructed in Berwick (which itself connects Clyde Road to the new Beaconsfield M1 interchange).
Yes I like that idea. All those Packenham and Officer workers would benefit if they worked in Dandy south. Keyzy. Dingley. Morrab
Excellent video, really loving the series! I've got a 1979 Melway which shows the F2 proposed between Craigieburn and Bell Street, as well as the 'Dingley Freeway' section between South Road and the South Gippsland Freeway which has mostly been built. It follows basically the exact same alignment as shown on the Melway.
We had horse stables on the Dingley Freeway reservation from the early 1970s through to the construction of the South Road extension in the early 2000's. Through all that time it was CRB/RCA/VicRoads land despite the 'official' 1973 cancellation from Hamer. Worth noting the Hoyts Skyline Drive in theatre opposite opened in 1955 on a long block of land to accommodate that section of freeway set aside in the 1954 plan. The drive in closed in 1990 making way for housing but cypress trees along the curve in the Dingley Bypass remain to this day.
Regarding the F35 Scoresby Freeway land it was set aside in the 1960s from Ringwood as far south as the F2 with an alternative route of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway to join up near the bend in Cheltenham Road. This was deleted from planning schemes post 1969 with the F35 extended to Seaford as built as Eastlink and the recently built 'Mordialloc Freeway' reserve set aside as an alternative to the F6 further west.
Interesting, thanks for the information
South Road extension was built in 2007, which was wasteful as it would later be built properly. Hopefully one day they grade separate the intersections which should have been done in the first place as a true freeway. The road has been built to freeway standard however, fortunately.
Most informative and interesting to watch, thanks Phil for posting.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Yay, lovely to revisit the corner of Gardenvale Rd and Nepean Hwy. 🎉
Many of the coffees I've consumed from that 7 eleven
@@stopsallmelb many of the pre made sandwiches I’ve bought there. And charcoal chicken from round the corner. In fact only last week.
Brilliant presentation. And excellent research. thank you and well done.
Excellent well researched video looking at its history. I believe the original Nepean highway bypass of the 1950's would have followed Cochrane and Durrant Streets extending through what is now Mayflower retirement centre, what was a council depot on Centre road(southern side), vacant land where Brown and Eise courts was built on the widening of Nepean highway, Brighton Secondary college field, southwest of Dendy park before ending at the Moorabbin junction.
This very informative and interesting. Great work! 👍
Thank you!
Love this series! St Kilda junction would make fabulous video too!
Part of the F2 freeway today is the Craigieburn bypass (Hume Freeway). The section of the F2 that includes the Dandenong bypass, Dingley bypass and South Road extension is likely to become the Dingley Freeway eventually and will go all the way to the South Gippsland Freeway.
However there's going to be a new South Gippsland Freeway built further East so the existing freeway will be renamed possibly as the Western Port Freeway
Yes. They will gradually upgrade the Dingley and Dandenong bypasses like they did the western highway and Calder highway through the outer suburbs by one by one replacing the intersections with overpasses. The first one I reckon will be Springvale road - you can see the way they’ve built it now it’s designed for a bridge to be inserted.
Thank You Philip great video’s.
Looking at these Grand old plans has me thinking, it no coincidence that Dorest Rd & Hallam Rd are almost in alignment of each other.
Getting better understanding of how the city is formed as a migrant. Thanks for sharing
Being new to Melbourne (from Sydney originally), the history of road construction fascinates me. The F2 (which is what I am now going to call it) from Dandenong to the Nepean Highway is a great, very convenient road that I have used often since arriving in Dandenong.
That’s one thing the NSW Road authority did well was capture some interesting films on the construction of a lot of freeways and bridges. I’ve found quite a few on TH-cam. Haven’t been able to find as much for Victoria, so these videos are a great insight 👍
Calling it the F2 will give you some local credibility 😎👍
@@drewzerna4087 yes agree. There’s a great one on the Newcastle express way. You have to wonder with the wholesale blowing up mountains and cutting huge cuttings whether that would be built these days with environmental protesters.
@@xr6lad I can't imagine how we would cope withou that road. The biggest difference is the Newcastle freeway would have many more tunnels
@@zoltrix7779 could you imagine the even worse chaos when there was an accident with tunnels along there?
Good to see that many decades later, successive state voyage still in able to get it right.
In tour clips mention F6 from East Coburg, As a kid I stumbled across some survey markers under electricy transmision lines for the F6. Which slewed from Nicholson St East Coburg up towards MacKay's hill over Newlands rd to Fawkner to Mahoneys rd?
Love the videos. Could you look at the history of the train that should have gone up the middle of the eastern freeway. Word is there was some work done at Clifton Hill station ready for it to go ahead. A tunnel?
Thanks! I've actually already done a video on that here: th-cam.com/video/uDdJdDF3KSg/w-d-xo.html
Please do one on the Hume freeway bypasses of each town and compare the old routes
fasinating that in Bridge Rd in Richmond some of the newer shops have a large esement on the street side. the older buildings go right to the footpath and the newer ones have this big block of land in front of it.
Isn't the footage from 2:00-2:13 Southbound towards Sydney Harbour Bridge? Looks like Milsons Point train station to me.
Amazing as usual!
If you have any more photographs of the Eastern Fwy during construction phase or where to view them I would appreciate it.. I'm particularly interested finding photographs between the section of train line between Clifton Hill & Victoria park prior to the realignment of that section of track
Hi Jim, there are a couple around Victoria Park from Weston Langford during construction of the Eastern Freeway: www.westonlangford.com/search/?q=eastern+freeway&country=&state= There are also a lot on Trove which may be useful: trove.nla.gov.au/search/category/images?keyword=eastern+freeway+construction
Hope that helps!
Woah, the thought of Merri Creek being turned into a freeway is genuinely horrifying.
I remember seeing a Vic roads overlay which was leaked 15 years ago or so and it shows a dotted line running from the end of the Dingley arterial South road end on a slight north west angle....a tunnel perhaps to ... The Monash?
Do you mean this one? www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/plan-for-hundreds-of-kilometres-of-new-freeways-20101010-16e04.html
Working link to the map here: web.archive.org/web/20200420014234/images.theage.com.au/file/2010/10/10/1977327/Melbourne2040.pdf
I drive on the Dandy Bypass often, and you can see especially at Springvale road, you could build a grade separation smack bang in the middle without affecting the current flow of traffic, until the last days of connection. I wondered why the dandy also stopped dead at South Gippsland hwy and not carry through, 1 of rhe worst bottle necks i know is from Pound Rd to Heatherton Rd on the SGippyFwy to Monash. How good would it be if the bypass connected
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Have you looked at the F9 Freeway yet? It’s still marked on my app version of the Melways.
Hi Oliver, I have looked at it but I understand that another TH-camr is making a video about it so I don't want to steal their thunder :)
I rented on the space on nantilla av and that is all VicRoads owned opposite caterpillar. More importantly I wish they would build the Dandenong bypass to the freeway, would make getting through that area easier for people that live nearby.
You should do a vid on the outbound slip-off from the co-chandler exit (built), through the Yarra council side of Alphington, designed to go through the Latrobe Golf Club and Sparks reserve, to continue up Heidelberg Rd. Vic Roads acquired most of the homes to the north side of Heidelberg Rd in the 50’s but have since disposed. The North has been ignored as an embarrassing uncle of Melbourne. No tramway, no thoroughfare, no votes.
Interesting history, since I'm a Victorian.
Excellent!
Meanwhile in Sydney: Freeway is proposed, 99% of the land is cleared and ready, environmentalists successfully force the plan to be cancelled, 50 years pass, freeway gets built anyway but it uses none of the still cleared land, is underground has tolls that cost a mortgage and every other motorway within a 10km radius also has a toll
What a shame so many houses were demolished along the Nepean Hwy and Hoddle st. All so we could have more car traffic. Thanks for making this video!
Love the brilliance and foresight of the old planners, yet whoever designed and mindlessly built the exit off Kingsway to the West Gate was obviously a blind non road user and so we got a fast flowing breezeway until the bottleneck/road block as loaded trucks struggled in first gear slower than walking pace to climb and join the exiting tunnel traffic travelling 3 times faster.
2:08 Melbourne freeways and you have footage of the approach to the Sydney Harbour Bridge...
Hi Merbert, I do my best to find relevant stock footage and images of the time that are published under a license that I can use (usually public domain or Creative Commons). Sometimes I include things that are not precisely what I am saying at any given moment but help to illustrate the point. It's a fairly common technique used in many videos that people make. Hope that helps!
@@philipmallis Sorry - I've seen you use Melbourne footage of a similar age. I really apologise that you felt the need to be so defensive - I'm a co-Melbournian whose local area would have been significantly affected by the northern part of this route. All the best
I love Melbs but must say as a well travelled commuter Melbourne's road system is a retarded mess that appears to have been governed by inept numpties since time immemorial. I fear it's now so retarded it cannot be fixed and will only get worse.
Trams rock! Don't ever loose those.
Sydney RD should be 4 lanes no questions...you have main arterials like this in the eastern suburbs with minimal traffic
5:36 is there a reason why this poster is written in Italian in the bottom part?
Large Italian community in Carlton and surrounds.
Yep what @Blindfold said. Part of the success of the protests was talking to migrant communities in the area with no or limited English and giving them information in their own languages (primarily Greek and Italian at the time)
If only people back then had foresight about how the non construction of these freeways has effected Melbourne today. Sounds just like us today...
Noe if only they built all these proposed routes the way they wanted with the vision for future growth and not the self preservation midset people had back then. We'd all be travelling through the city much more efficiently than we are now.
I would liked that section from near Merri station to Campbellfield to have been built. I would have driven on it a lot. That and the F6.
god so glad this one was never done. wouldve been like the american inner city freeways that destroyed similarly poor/working class areas.
Great to see Hoddle Street in it's early glory. What a shame cars took over ttram and pedestrians
Could you imagine the traffic had these roads not been widened. Yet today we still have heavy traffic! Melbourne is one of the fastest growing cities and the infrastructure is bursting at the seams. I hope they will connect the Eastern Freeway one day to the Western extension (East West Link).
Could never understand why locals were against the tunnel given it wouldhave actually taken the traffic that comes off the Eastern freeway now and buried it in a tunnel. Now as a result of it not being built the traffic will get worse and worse for them. Kind of cutting off their nose to spite their faces. So now they have it continuing along Queens parade though Carlton and the Royal park. Wonderful………🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Lol Melbourne would have developed differently with more public transport use and better quality of life than it has today. Induced demand means that average peak hour vehicle speeds don't change much so traffic wouldn't be worse, there would just be fewer people driving and we would have demanded better public transport. And yes, I drive on freeways and do benefit from the convenience of being out of the city in half an hour...
instead you all get tolls
Do you think it should have been built
Dont remind the city council theycwill find a way to put bikes with insane speed limits 😢
Boy we need that Part 1 today! Instead of all theses stupid bottle necks!
The stealth freeway
Ok let's get an understanding between a FWY and a HWY, a FWY doesn't have traffic lights whereas a HWY does
I discovered the missing link when i recently rode the highly advertised new bike path from Dingley. What w***ers the road builders are to leave cyclist dangling at Wells road with no clear idea on how to get to the Eastlink path or the extension to Baxter.
Nimbyism has been around too long. Those people didn't see the fact Melbourne might grow. The fact the Monash is constantly getting widened and then speed limits reduced shows a lack of planning in the current day.
The western highway from Deer Park to Melton Bacchus marsh is a disastrous 2 lane road.
It's not a high way it's a crap road built in the 1960s.
Successive labour Governments State and Federal Governments have purposely didn't fund any dual lanes or any development.upgrade.
Why you may ask? Well it's because the western suburbs is a very commited labour voters who are ignorant of how Democracy works by electing a local representative to the house seat either State or Federally.
The western suburbs has always been ignored by the very labour.voters they have elected and nothing has been done for such labour voters...
The infrastructure is disastrous with new estates built around surrounding roads and massive urbanisation that has taken place all the while labour party will not find any infrastructure projects on in Melbourne's West.
Why is that...
Yet the stupid people continuously keep voting for their labour party leader and they chose do nothing.
The people in the West deserve what they get Toxic Dumps Correctional facilities ...crap pot hole riddled roads .
Great work however every freeway video you have produced just makes me angry that we have fucking useless politicians running this shit show here in Victoria. Had these roads been built, Melbourne would be an easier place to traverse and the benefits of that would be obvious to all.
Nepean Hwy is terrible for locals as it is as wide as a motorway but with no flyovers so you are constantly waiting at junctions to cross. If they could perhaps put it underground at Bay St and maybe one other junction it would really help. Matthew Guy wanted to create a proper junction at Glenhuntly Rd but not sure if that would have worked.
That makes sense now that the Nepean Hwy was part of the F2 as it is so bloody wide!
John Cain hated freeways. My mate on the roads board said he was a complete weirdo who fought it all the way.