The F14 - Melbourne's Forgotten Freeways

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  • The F14 was one of the longest freeways proposed in 1969 Melbourne Transportation Plan. Most of it has been built despite being officially cancelled in 1973 - it's made up of the Tullamarine Freeway, Citylink and the Monash Freeway from Melbourne Airport to Hallam in the city's south-east.
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    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which this video was filmed, the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people. I pay respects to Elders past, present and emerging, and their extensive and continuing connection to land, water and country.
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    My website: philipmallis.com
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  • @strauchanside
    @strauchanside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    An excellent, well-researched video. I’m loving this series you’ve got going!

  • @caseylwr
    @caseylwr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just discovered your channel, Philip. Very interesting videos you're posting, thanks for that. And yes, the Monash......... I arrived in Melbourne in 1978 and have been traveling on bits and pieces, parts, and so-called finished Monash ever since. And they are still working on it today! I don't think that in my lifetime they will ever stop working on it. It's sooo frustrating.

  • @ryansimioni5843
    @ryansimioni5843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loving this series! I was however under the impression that the South Eastern was the first freeway in Melbourne, opening on the other side of 65 if memory serves. If you ever venture out into the country, I gather the Moe Bypass is considered the first 60mph road in the country, and would be one of the first freeways if the CRB was allowed to build them (it opened as NR1 Princes Bypass Road). I haven't been able to dig much up myself, except some annual reports snippets

    • @EJP286CRSKW
      @EJP286CRSKW 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct. The short section along the former Linlithgow Avenue, Burnley, from Punt Rd to the Grange Rd bridge opened in 1965 or 1966. Had a 60mph limit on it too, for years. Then it was extended eastward to Toorak Rd.

  • @charlesangus1196
    @charlesangus1196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm enjoying your series on forgotten freeways and just wanted to point out that the original route for the F14 was to go along the eastern side of the Essendon Airport also called the escarpment route but seems to have been abandoned with the upgrade of Lancefield rd along the western side to freeway standard I believe in the late 70's/early 80's
    Another thing is the route numbers adopted in the 1969 transport plan are variations on the original route numbers proposed in the MMBW Melbourne plan developed in the 1950's for Melbourne's freeway network.

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great thank you for that information!

    • @gamerchuck1793
      @gamerchuck1793 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I have the original concept plans (literally lines on a plan) showing the alignment on the east and the subsequent spaghetti junction with Bell Street. Have the inner city ring road concepts too

  • @neilbeatty7251
    @neilbeatty7251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can recall the tram crossing the Tullamarine Freeway to enter Essendon Airport near (north of) English Street, with only a flashing amber light to alert freeway traffic. Removed in 1977.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I faintly remember it as well. I was only 11 at the time.

  • @ryansacoolguy
    @ryansacoolguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genuinely enjoy learning about the history of Melbourne's freeway's. And what it took to get things to the way they are now. Thank you

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Philip. yours' is an outstanding insight into Melbourne and it's Freeways. I'm in my eighties now and have watched with fascination and disappointment at their development from go to woe. Having lived in America, I think General then President Eisenhower got it right after World War Two when he saw German Autobahns and if the USA was to thrive, freeways were an essential. Of course, in that era, the public though of this (& noisy jets) as equating to progress, and were far less inclined to demonstrate dissent. Melbourne started later and playing catch-up, couldn't implement policies that would have seen (as you say) huge swathes of Melbourne bulldozed. thanks again. [great viewing]

  • @michaelh4484
    @michaelh4484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Philip

  • @adammurphy6845
    @adammurphy6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing as usual Philip!

  • @karmicselling4252
    @karmicselling4252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You for all these great videos. One thing that stands out was the lack of vision and foresight of people involved in planning these roads. You would think that a major road link between Melbourne's International JetPort and the CBD would warrant more than a two lane dual Carriageway in its initial construction. Same could be said for the original Mulgrave Freeway and much of the Easter Freeway. We have ended up paying *wasting) voluminous amounts of money upgrading these roads over the years to cope with increased traffic volumes - which was always going to be the case in a growing city. And that doesn;t include all the money lost as a result of the disruptions and delays caused over the years to increase the ability of these roads to carry more traffic. The "Build it and they will come" approach should have been in play from the start.

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving the videos and history. Is it forgotten if it was built?

    • @vitodoria7894
      @vitodoria7894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would say that the titles of these videos are misleading because most of them weren't built. If anything, they are forgotten freeway proposals.

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vitodoria7894 F14 and F6 as names are the things that are forgotten

    • @vitodoria7894
      @vitodoria7894 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianmontgomery7534 I agree with your point but it doesn't change the fact the title of the video is misleading. It implies that the freeways were built and then hidden away when obviously that was not the case.

  • @adamcecere3369
    @adamcecere3369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Phil. Great video. I live in Melbourne and very interested in this topic. Mostly the history of we're we have been and plans for the future. Just as exactly this video shows.
    Thanks Phil.

  • @garethwilliams6518
    @garethwilliams6518 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this very interesting, thanks for doing a video on this. Finding all your videos great. Loving the f2 one 👍

  • @andrewjohn3038
    @andrewjohn3038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Great vidoe , You need to do a video on the Healesville freeway as it was part of the 1969 Melbourne transport plan ..

  • @gryffindork9563
    @gryffindork9563 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a little story to tell you! We lived in North Melbourne in 1970 and my sister and I wanted to go and visit my Grandparents who lived in Niddrie . We got to Tullamarine Freeway, as we went to go on the freeway these Nuns seen us and took us in and gave us milk and biscuits as they called the police.

  • @daleym4955
    @daleym4955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I never knew my old house in St Kilda east was in the firing line of a freeway at one stage

  • @taylor....
    @taylor.... 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Monash now carries 165,000 vehicles a day... And 4 additional left lanes, which bobody seems to know how to use.

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic, a fascinating history that I grew up during.

  • @zoomosis
    @zoomosis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video.
    Ironically despite the seemingly-endless expansion of the Monash Freeway there's no direct connection from the South Gippsland Freeway northbound to the Monash eastbound. Oddly there doesn't appear to be land reserved for it.

    • @charlesangus1196
      @charlesangus1196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is land reserved for the eastbound ramp. Maybe with future demand (especially when they extend the Southern Dandenong bypass to the South Gippsland freeway) they might build it.

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am not surprised because most traffic that wanted to go East near the end of the SGF would simply exit at ALT1 (Princes Highway) and if going to Gippsland they would enter the M1 where ALT1 finishes. In my mind it would be a waste of money to have an Eastbound ramp at the end of the SGF.

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianmontgomery7534 Well it /can/ but it's often very congested through there.

  • @georgemantzoros3204
    @georgemantzoros3204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Philip. Excellent series on Melbourne's forgotten freeways. Can you find out any information on the abandoned Escarpment route freeway that was to cut through Strathmore via Mascoma Street running behind the Eastern side of Essendon airport as part of the Tullamarine Freeway in the 60s to 70s. No much is known about this abandoned route.

  • @cswvna
    @cswvna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:28 Nice ! A shot of the Morshead Overpass under construction.
    Yes, it IS a named bridge, there is (or should still be) a dedication plaque under the bridge on the western abutment. Oh, and the section of the Monash Freeway that is east of Punt Road that the overpass runs onto? That was Harcourt Parade, a name still (apparently) held by the on ramp.

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantastic information, thank you I had no idea. Definitely need more plaques!

  • @bluecent
    @bluecent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Philip,
    Great videos. A couple of questions.
    In the days before Eastlink, there used to be signage along that stretch indicated with double headed arrows, “the site of the future Scoresby bypass (or freeway)”. I’m assuming that this land corridor was what eventually became Eastlink?
    Also, any chance of a more detailed video on the stages of the development of the Monash?
    I’m old enough to remember when it ran just between the Princes Highway and Springvale Road, before expanding to Warrigal Rd.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. East link was basically the branding. Scoresby was the original name.

  • @shrikelet
    @shrikelet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The segment of the F14 that was planned through Caulfield North ran directly through not one but two cheap rental properties I lived in in the 2000s and early '10s. I can't help but feel that these two facts may be somehow connected!

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn’t the first freeway in Melbourne the Maltby bypass, built as a limited access divided bypass of Werribee in the early 1960’s and now part of the Princes freeway to Geelong? Or was that considered rural at the time?

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would expect you are correct - it was certainly rural when it was built.

  • @aussietaipan8700
    @aussietaipan8700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Phil, not sure if you have done this already but I would love to see you do a video on the proposed Eastlink to Hume(western ring road) link and Tulla airport train link

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I'll add it to the list!

  • @mallenwho
    @mallenwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come the F6 was simultaneously: cancelled so early that there was no alignment to build the Monash on; yet also preserved in planning documents enough that the Chandler Hwy Interchange was preserved and futureproofed?

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good question! From what I can tell, it was because not all of it was cancelled at the same time. The bit between East Kew and Dandenong Road-ish would have been the most difficult in terms of terrain, property acquisition, etc. The early concepts for what we call the Monash Freeway would have run more along the proposed F9 (Healesville Fwy) rather than south-east towards Pakenham.

  • @robbiewales3007
    @robbiewales3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eventually the Tullamarine Freeway will be extended from its current terminus at Sunbury Road to the outer ring road freeway. The extension could be called Airport Link or Tullamarine Freeway depending on weather it will be tolled or not

  • @bluecent
    @bluecent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those Eastern Freeway demonstrations coincided with a real grass routes movement in Melbourne opposing developments that carved up or impacted on neighbourhoods. The other than comes to mine being the opposition to the building of the current Newport Power Station .

  • @GordonLonghouse
    @GordonLonghouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never mind the freeways: I’d like to know where the insane crossing at Springvale Road, Centre Road and Prince s Highway came to be.

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seeing that the bulk of the traffic is on the Princes Highway then I think that if they elevated the Princes Hwy for through traffic then most of the problem would disappear. My biggest beef with this intersection is when East bound traffic uses the service road outside the hotel as a 'short cut'.

  • @LouKodge
    @LouKodge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started watching your videos. Thoroughly Watchable ,well researched and well edited. May i sugest a new project..a video of the old Rosstown railway. An excellent ref. is an old book titled "Return to Rosstown " by D.F. Jowett and W.E. Weickardt 1978.

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and good suggestion!

  • @WarwickAllen-nw6hi
    @WarwickAllen-nw6hi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you record a video about melbourne's forgotten greensborough freeway please?

  • @musicalaviator
    @musicalaviator ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tulla/Citylink from the Airport could have been called the F-14 Tomcat? To Tullamarine JETport??

  • @norahk3629
    @norahk3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spotted the peds walking backwards at 5:49 so you could get the pan going the correct direction for the dialogue. Haha

  • @MrkaoPL
    @MrkaoPL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a video on F9

  • @Celcius1
    @Celcius1 ปีที่แล้ว

    you forgot to mention the nick name of the south eastern freeway, known as a the south eastern carpark!

  • @leonkernan
    @leonkernan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:02 Is that the reason Dandenong Road zigzags under the railway before Caulfield?

    • @philipmallis
      @philipmallis  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good question, I'm not sure actually. From these 1945 aerial photos (1945.melbourne/) Dandenong Road was on the same alignment and looks like it used to have a level crossing. A lot of these roads reaching out to what were then discrete towns (e.g. Dandenong, Sunbury, Werribee) were built in more or less straight lines on the most direct routes because there was little or no development along most of the way. Hence why these roads (e.g. Dandenong Road, Mount Alexander Road, Old Geelong Road) usually don't fit into the general grid of arterials that we have in built up areas.

    • @falchoon
      @falchoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking at the map I imagine Dandenong Rd went up Station St in Malvern and terminated at Wattletree Road. There's still a reserve now behind Malvern Central shopping Centre which I imagine to be the original alignment. So the zig zag is a Malvern bypass? I have no evidence to back that theory up though.

    • @cswvna
      @cswvna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@falchoon That area behind Malvern Central shopping centre is actually the site of an old railway yard. Prior to being expanded to its current six lane alignment, Dandenong Road had a much tighter four lane underpass that was constructed with the quadruplication and grade separation of the railway line in the early 20th century. An underpass that I personally remember.

    • @falchoon
      @falchoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cswvna I remember the underpass being changed to the current configuration, that was late eighties / early nineties.

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falchoon Yes I remember how tentative drivers were going around the curve on the concrete pavement. It used to annoy me having to slow down when I could go around it at 70kph in an S class Mercedes.

  • @kristopherorlowski2512
    @kristopherorlowski2512 ปีที่แล้ว

    F9 next please

  • @mattyjpati
    @mattyjpati ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you just call the Tullamarine Freeway Melbourne's first freeway????
    **Maltby Bypass screeching intensifies** 😂

  • @phoneticau
    @phoneticau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Melbourne needs a south east airport 🤔

  • @rossdtool
    @rossdtool ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife got scammed for $550 from a text telling her to pay for city link. The bank wouldn’t pay it because she gave her details to the scammer

  • @BTW...
    @BTW... หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't call it a FREEway when you have to pay a Toll

  • @rowdyshearer1900
    @rowdyshearer1900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what i nightmare..

  • @chandrarachmad1184
    @chandrarachmad1184 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...bruh f 14 jet and f 14 freeway

  • @LucaMVideos
    @LucaMVideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First

  • @PeterShieldsukcatstripey
    @PeterShieldsukcatstripey ปีที่แล้ว

    Could they change to motorway?

    • @EJP286CRSKW
      @EJP286CRSKW 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same thing different name. The essence is no lateral intersections in both cases.