It is very strange that there's no Quicksave considering how difficult it can be at times. It would have made the game way less frustrating if it had been included.
With the recent release on the Nintendo Switch, I finally got to experience Soulstorm as well. While this version has some bugs (e.g. occasionally getting stuck in place when respawning at a checkpoint, sometimes inability to walk with a possessed Slig, Sligs not spawning in one area of the prison escape level until you use the elevator to get there, etc.), it's not nearly as problematic as it must have been one and a half years ago. However, I wonder if there will be DLC content as well in the future. The "Oddtimized Edition" so far doesn't have either DLC campaign.
I'm glad that the Switch version seems like a good port! I was worried it was going to be a total mess considering it didn't seem all that well optimised even on the PS5. I feel like those issues with checkpoints, Sligs not spawning and general stuff like that is just baked into the game at this point haha! I don't think we'll ever see new DLC but I still hold out hope that the console exclusive levels will eventually just get put into every version. It's weird how the Switch doesn't have either DLC packs...
3:20 Recently? Lorne has been making dumb greedy decisions since pulling Munch from launching on PS2 for Xbox, and lost all the sales since fans were on PlayStation. Remember Stranger's Wrath drama? More dumb greedy decisions by a greedy creator who wants to teach why greed is bad. Lorne nearly killed Oddworld because of dumb decisions multiple times now. This is nothing New or Recent.
I don't know if it's entirely accurate to say that Munch was taken to the Xbox out of greed, it was more so out of necessity from what I've heard. They weren't coping very well with the PS2 architecture and Microsoft offered more support which basically forced their hand. Again from what I know the Stranger's Wrath drama wasn't really about greed either was it? It was about EA not marketing the game enough which resulted in a lack of sales despite positive reviews and reception from fans. I thought that the greed aspect has really only been a recent thing, but maybe there's stuff that I don't know about! Plus I don't think this is entirely Lorne Lanning's fault, sure he's the director and kinda the face of the company but there's no way that he's the only person calling these kinds of shots. You'd think that as the creator of the series, he would want the games to be as complete and as good as they could possibly be.
@@PixelPursuit they quite literally pulled the game from PlayStation to Xbox a week before it was supposed to be released on PlayStation 2. Early days of the Xbox saw Microsoft attempt to buy up their competition at the start, and Munch was one of them. My preorder was refunded. All for greed. I can't blame Strangers Wrath's drama on greed; but it most certainly was another DUMB decision that hurt OddWorld and made him re-re-write what the Quintology order would include or contain. The fame and acclaim for his brilliant works on the original PlayStation went to his head; and just like Lulu, he blew it all away.
Promised myself i'd give Soulstorm a honest second chance once I knew it was as fixed as it was gonna get. Even though I didn't really enjoy it on release. And after MANY patches ...It's still a mess I so badly wanted this to be the glorious return of Oddworld. For this to be a game I could proudly reccomend, if not right away, then eventually. They didn't just screw up with this game, they screwed up so badly that i'm amazed it didn't put the dev out of business. As much love in my heart as I have for Lorne and Oddworld Inhabitants...I kind of feel like it should have
Yeah that's true actually, I forgot about that! I'm glad they eventually went back on that and just made all of the content accessible. Hopefully Soulstorm does do that eventually because I actually thought they would have done it by now 😅
@@PixelPursuit yeah its a waiting game. Sadly I can't remember what the time span was with MGSV but I don't think any exclusives remain that way for long. This was Konami too, so I think Lorne will be a bit more lenient with us.
I have never played an Oddworld game, have only seen bits and pieces of the franchise a handful of times, and don't even really care for the franchise (clearly by my last two points). But I really enjoy your content and watching this made me laugh (albeit feel bad for fans of the series) due to the baffling way they handled this whole "Enhanced" Edition. Great video!
I don't really blame you for not having much interest in the series, the more recent entries have been nowhere near the quality of the original games, but going back to the original games isn't going to appeal to a lot of people either. But yeah, it's extremely baffling how they handled this whole thing... I'm beginning to suspect that Oddworld Inhabitants haven't got a clue what they're doing haha!
I've seen it! :D That's a pretty good idea for if I decide to do more Oddworld stuff in the future! For now though I think I'm going to take a pretty big break from anything Oddworld related. That is of course unless they announce anything new in the series, then I'll be all over that!
Huh, I wonder what the update yesterday was for… Probably just minor bug fixes or something. Unless they fixed the weird lights at the end of Toby’s Escape! That would be good!
@@PixelPursuit yeah, it did say some of it was for Tobys escape and other sound issues. I was still having issues on ps4 with the so called enhanced edition on the final boss. Buggy audio that cuts out and then complete crashes when the ending is supposed to load.. So much wasted progress and frustration even now. Hopefully they've finally sorted it out.
Oh my god, yeah that final boss was a mess back when I played it too! I didn't actually bring that up in my review because it was already so long, but the last boss is insanely unpolished! Hopefully even if these issues aren't fixed yet, they will get fixed at some point. It's just a shame it didn't release in a finished state to begin with.
@@PixelPursuit its so frustrating I haven't bothered trying it since, even with the new patch I mentioned. I need to know for sure it's fixed, else it's just not worth it. I just want to be able to mop up the last of the badges and be on my way to the plat!
I played oddworld soulstorm to the end and got the required mudokons for the true ending but it didn't play and skipped straight to the credits I was a oddworld fan but after that I vowed I would never play any oddworld games afterwards
Oh my god that would have been so annoying. I'm really glad that didn't happen to me when I played it because it would have ruined the experience quite a bit. I don't blame you for losing faith in them. Soulstorm was a bit of a miss in general in my opinion. It's better since the updates but even then it's not great.
@@PixelPursuit it could've happened because I paused right before the ending played because I was waiting to show my dad? But I think it was just a glitch
That's really annoying either way though. I think nowadays you should always be able to pause cutscenes in games and you should need to hold a button to skip them so you can't do it accidentally. But yeah, it might have just been a glitch and nothing to do with that!
Another game that did the not all content in all versions is shovel Knight. The sony versions have a God of War Section/ Xbox and PC got Battle Toads Instead and Nintendo version Require the Shovel Knight Amiibos to acess the content yet its all just got playing the game on other versions for free.
That's true! I completely forgot about that! At least with Shovel Knight though you can sort of let it off because it's using properties from the consoles the content is exclusive to. It's still a little bit lame but at least it makes more sense than with Soulstorm. Plus, Shovel Knight is a huge game even without that particular side content, so I feel like it's a lot easier to forgive :D
The Enhanced Edition is just what they're calling the big free update for the game. So every version of the game is the Enhanced Edition providing that you download all of the updates. The day one edition came with a steel book case if you got it on release. So basically every version of the game is identical. It's a bit confusing but hopefully that helps!
It was free when it originally came out! It was a PS+ game but only the PS5 version was free. If you were on PS4 that’s probably why you didn’t know! :D
@@PixelPursuit Well thats an interesting money making stratedgy! lol Well Ive allways assumed portions of subscriptions go to content developers depending on amounts of downloads, but im not sure.
@@VikingVern7 Yeah I don’t think it was the best decision to be honest! But yeah that is definitely the case. The issue with that though is that it was only free on PS5 and practically no one had a PS5 at the time, so I doubt it made much money. Plus a lot of people reviewing it via the free version weren’t overly impressed so that would have impacted people buying it on other platforms. It seems like a bit of a mess! But this is just speculation, maybe it actually did really well and I’m just reading into nothing haha!
This hits actually worst than rockstar fall.This is hearthbreakin that such a company would do this to old fans,i understand they are not big with big funds,but deviding dlcs is "fuck you for loving our world"
I honestly don't understand the thought process of them doing that. And I actually expected that both DLC packs would be available on both systems by now. Soulstorm as a whole kinda feels like it's been a bit of a mess and I really hope that the next Oddworld game pulls things back a bit.
On easy mode (yes, only easy mode) you can slap sligs out cold, it lasts about a couple seconds. I didn't know that was a feature till loading tips randomly told me. Overall i still like Soulstorm, its fun.
Huh, I also had no idea you could do that! I've never actually played it on easy mode. I stuck to the medium difficulty for my playthrough! I wouldn't want to play it on hard though, I bet that's infuriating!
I was expecting so much more after these enhanced updates. The Toby dlc was a good Challenge room dlc but the cutsene before us so bad. And there's still no reason to play through the campaign again
Yeah I was expecting quite a bit more too, from how they were talking about it, it seemed like it was going to be much bigger. It's a shame because at this point I don't think it'll ever be as good as it could have been. I still think that they probably should have just done a proper remake of Abe's Exoddus instead of completely reimagining it...
Just please tell me the so called "enhanced edition" has actually everything on disc already installed I rather not get something like the so called"complete edition" for Metro Exodus just to be given a damn code to download the damn dlc despite the ultra hd blu ray the game itself is on having 100gb in storage capacity!
Unfortunately I can't confirm if the DLC is on the disc of the enhanced edition or not. I think the physical enhanced edition is only on Xbox because the PlayStation release came out before the enhanced edition was a thing. But yeah I share your annoyance when content isn't all available on the disc and it requires huge downloads. It's not good for game preservation either because when the consoles are disconnected from their servers you'll never be able to experience the full game ever again.
I loved playing the two original games (Oddysee and Exoddus) since I was a child back in 97, never tried Munch, but at this point, since I saw how it is, I know it would be disappointing. It seems to me like they are pulling these kind of things off just to get a quick buck for as long as it lasts. I think they know their franchise isn't going anywhere anymore. Soulstorm at launch was really disappointing, I think it's safe to say it was unplayable.
Yeah on release it was clearly in a completely unfinished state. Luckily they have done a lot of updates since then so it's a lot better, but still the overall experience is just a bit lacking. I think they needed to dial it back a bit in terms of not having a crafting system and stuff like that. It didn't need to be as long as it was either to be honest. Munch is a lot worse from my experience with them though so at least it has that going for it!
Yeah I really don't understand why they would have made the decision to do that. It's such a stupid idea to alienate a section of your player base like that!
Yeah it is a bit weird how quickly they pushed out the Enhanced Edition, but to be fair I feel like that happens a lot. Stuff like the Director’s Cut of Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima came out reasonably close to the initial release. But yeah either way! I’m glad it’s on Xbox now too :D
Haha, yeah that about sums it up 😂 But yeah, even though there’s a few things I don’t like about it, it is a good game and it’s worth giving a go. It’s a bit annoying in some sections and it’s slow to start but there is a glint of something great there in certain moments.
I was hoping there’d be Quicksave. It would make getting the medals easier at least.
It is very strange that there's no Quicksave considering how difficult it can be at times. It would have made the game way less frustrating if it had been included.
With the recent release on the Nintendo Switch, I finally got to experience Soulstorm as well. While this version has some bugs (e.g. occasionally getting stuck in place when respawning at a checkpoint, sometimes inability to walk with a possessed Slig, Sligs not spawning in one area of the prison escape level until you use the elevator to get there, etc.), it's not nearly as problematic as it must have been one and a half years ago.
However, I wonder if there will be DLC content as well in the future. The "Oddtimized Edition" so far doesn't have either DLC campaign.
I'm glad that the Switch version seems like a good port! I was worried it was going to be a total mess considering it didn't seem all that well optimised even on the PS5. I feel like those issues with checkpoints, Sligs not spawning and general stuff like that is just baked into the game at this point haha!
I don't think we'll ever see new DLC but I still hold out hope that the console exclusive levels will eventually just get put into every version. It's weird how the Switch doesn't have either DLC packs...
Answer, its what's needed for Hugo series
Haha, I would love to see Hugo: Enhanced Edition release on PS5 :D
3:20 Recently? Lorne has been making dumb greedy decisions since pulling Munch from launching on PS2 for Xbox, and lost all the sales since fans were on PlayStation. Remember Stranger's Wrath drama? More dumb greedy decisions by a greedy creator who wants to teach why greed is bad. Lorne nearly killed Oddworld because of dumb decisions multiple times now. This is nothing New or Recent.
I don't know if it's entirely accurate to say that Munch was taken to the Xbox out of greed, it was more so out of necessity from what I've heard. They weren't coping very well with the PS2 architecture and Microsoft offered more support which basically forced their hand.
Again from what I know the Stranger's Wrath drama wasn't really about greed either was it? It was about EA not marketing the game enough which resulted in a lack of sales despite positive reviews and reception from fans.
I thought that the greed aspect has really only been a recent thing, but maybe there's stuff that I don't know about! Plus I don't think this is entirely Lorne Lanning's fault, sure he's the director and kinda the face of the company but there's no way that he's the only person calling these kinds of shots. You'd think that as the creator of the series, he would want the games to be as complete and as good as they could possibly be.
@@PixelPursuit they quite literally pulled the game from PlayStation to Xbox a week before it was supposed to be released on PlayStation 2. Early days of the Xbox saw Microsoft attempt to buy up their competition at the start, and Munch was one of them. My preorder was refunded. All for greed.
I can't blame Strangers Wrath's drama on greed; but it most certainly was another DUMB decision that hurt OddWorld and made him re-re-write what the Quintology order would include or contain.
The fame and acclaim for his brilliant works on the original PlayStation went to his head; and just like Lulu, he blew it all away.
@@DarylCooke now Lorne truly know what being a real Glockstar means!
Lorne was a Glukkin all along :O
You’ve figured it out! This whole time he’s been an evil mastermind Glukkon 😱
Oh my god, I just found you outside of Retro Dodo!
Haha, welcome to my personal channel! The videos here are a little bit different but I hope you enjoy them nonetheless!
Promised myself i'd give Soulstorm a honest second chance once I knew it was as fixed as it was gonna get. Even though I didn't really enjoy it on release.
And after MANY patches
...It's still a mess
I so badly wanted this to be the glorious return of Oddworld. For this to be a game I could proudly reccomend, if not right away, then eventually. They didn't just screw up with this game, they screwed up so badly that i'm amazed it didn't put the dev out of business.
As much love in my heart as I have for Lorne and Oddworld Inhabitants...I kind of feel like it should have
MGSV: Ground Zeroes did that split exclusive mission thing. Just wait.
Yeah that's true actually, I forgot about that! I'm glad they eventually went back on that and just made all of the content accessible. Hopefully Soulstorm does do that eventually because I actually thought they would have done it by now 😅
@@PixelPursuit yeah its a waiting game. Sadly I can't remember what the time span was with MGSV but I don't think any exclusives remain that way for long. This was Konami too, so I think Lorne will be a bit more lenient with us.
I have never played an Oddworld game, have only seen bits and pieces of the franchise a handful of times, and don't even really care for the franchise (clearly by my last two points). But I really enjoy your content and watching this made me laugh (albeit feel bad for fans of the series) due to the baffling way they handled this whole "Enhanced" Edition.
Great video!
I don't really blame you for not having much interest in the series, the more recent entries have been nowhere near the quality of the original games, but going back to the original games isn't going to appeal to a lot of people either. But yeah, it's extremely baffling how they handled this whole thing... I'm beginning to suspect that Oddworld Inhabitants haven't got a clue what they're doing haha!
I’m not sure if you’ll see this but could you please kindly some day make a lore video on oddworld?
I've seen it! :D
That's a pretty good idea for if I decide to do more Oddworld stuff in the future! For now though I think I'm going to take a pretty big break from anything Oddworld related. That is of course unless they announce anything new in the series, then I'll be all over that!
@@PixelPursuit :) thank you that’s awesome news. I’ll be watching your channel for now onwards anyways!
It just had a small update yesterday as well. Seems their still not finished trying to fix it.
Huh, I wonder what the update yesterday was for… Probably just minor bug fixes or something. Unless they fixed the weird lights at the end of Toby’s Escape! That would be good!
@@PixelPursuit yeah, it did say some of it was for Tobys escape and other sound issues. I was still having issues on ps4 with the so called enhanced edition on the final boss. Buggy audio that cuts out and then complete crashes when the ending is supposed to load.. So much wasted progress and frustration even now. Hopefully they've finally sorted it out.
Oh my god, yeah that final boss was a mess back when I played it too! I didn't actually bring that up in my review because it was already so long, but the last boss is insanely unpolished!
Hopefully even if these issues aren't fixed yet, they will get fixed at some point. It's just a shame it didn't release in a finished state to begin with.
@@PixelPursuit its so frustrating I haven't bothered trying it since, even with the new patch I mentioned. I need to know for sure it's fixed, else it's just not worth it. I just want to be able to mop up the last of the badges and be on my way to the plat!
I played oddworld soulstorm to the end and got the required mudokons for the true ending but it didn't play and skipped straight to the credits I was a oddworld fan but after that I vowed I would never play any oddworld games afterwards
Oh my god that would have been so annoying. I'm really glad that didn't happen to me when I played it because it would have ruined the experience quite a bit.
I don't blame you for losing faith in them. Soulstorm was a bit of a miss in general in my opinion. It's better since the updates but even then it's not great.
@@PixelPursuit it could've happened because I paused right before the ending played because I was waiting to show my dad? But I think it was just a glitch
That's really annoying either way though. I think nowadays you should always be able to pause cutscenes in games and you should need to hold a button to skip them so you can't do it accidentally. But yeah, it might have just been a glitch and nothing to do with that!
Oh and the slugs always had access to their stun gun from the start :)
Oh... Well I guess that the tips on the loading screen are a good idea then because I played through the whole game not knowing about that haha! :D
@@PixelPursuit about what?
Also you missed elum escape from rupture farms with the other animals!
Wait really? I completely missed that!
Another game that did the not all content in all versions is shovel Knight. The sony versions have a God of War Section/ Xbox and PC got Battle Toads Instead and Nintendo version Require the Shovel Knight Amiibos to acess the content yet its all just got playing the game on other versions for free.
That's true! I completely forgot about that! At least with Shovel Knight though you can sort of let it off because it's using properties from the consoles the content is exclusive to. It's still a little bit lame but at least it makes more sense than with Soulstorm. Plus, Shovel Knight is a huge game even without that particular side content, so I feel like it's a lot easier to forgive :D
What’s the difference between enhanced edition and day one edition?
The Enhanced Edition is just what they're calling the big free update for the game. So every version of the game is the Enhanced Edition providing that you download all of the updates. The day one edition came with a steel book case if you got it on release. So basically every version of the game is identical. It's a bit confusing but hopefully that helps!
I know what's enhanced!
Toby has the ability to roll!
That is very, very true! He's one of the very few Mudokons to have that ability!
Is the chair ur in really big,or are u just a smaller person?
It's a pretty big sofa to be fair! But I am also a little man.
Wait when was soulstorm free? I remeber deciding to not buy it till the price lowered feeling like it was too expensive
It was free when it originally came out! It was a PS+ game but only the PS5 version was free. If you were on PS4 that’s probably why you didn’t know! :D
@@PixelPursuit Well thats an interesting money making stratedgy! lol
Well Ive allways assumed portions of subscriptions go to content developers depending on amounts of downloads, but im not sure.
@@VikingVern7 Yeah I don’t think it was the best decision to be honest!
But yeah that is definitely the case. The issue with that though is that it was only free on PS5 and practically no one had a PS5 at the time, so I doubt it made much money. Plus a lot of people reviewing it via the free version weren’t overly impressed so that would have impacted people buying it on other platforms. It seems like a bit of a mess! But this is just speculation, maybe it actually did really well and I’m just reading into nothing haha!
This hits actually worst than rockstar fall.This is hearthbreakin that such a company would do this to old fans,i understand they are not big with big funds,but deviding dlcs is "fuck you for loving our world"
I honestly don't understand the thought process of them doing that. And I actually expected that both DLC packs would be available on both systems by now. Soulstorm as a whole kinda feels like it's been a bit of a mess and I really hope that the next Oddworld game pulls things back a bit.
@@PixelPursuit It's likely they were able to secure development funding from Playstation and xbox in exchange for exclusive content respectively.
On easy mode (yes, only easy mode) you can slap sligs out cold, it lasts about a couple seconds. I didn't know that was a feature till loading tips randomly told me.
Overall i still like Soulstorm, its fun.
Huh, I also had no idea you could do that! I've never actually played it on easy mode. I stuck to the medium difficulty for my playthrough! I wouldn't want to play it on hard though, I bet that's infuriating!
@@PixelPursuit I never played on hard to be honest. But yea, the more you know :)
I was expecting so much more after these enhanced updates. The Toby dlc was a good Challenge room dlc but the cutsene before us so bad. And there's still no reason to play through the campaign again
Yeah I was expecting quite a bit more too, from how they were talking about it, it seemed like it was going to be much bigger. It's a shame because at this point I don't think it'll ever be as good as it could have been. I still think that they probably should have just done a proper remake of Abe's Exoddus instead of completely reimagining it...
Just please tell me the so called "enhanced edition" has actually everything on disc already installed
I rather not get something like the so called"complete edition" for Metro Exodus just to be given a damn code to download the damn dlc despite the ultra hd blu ray the game itself is on having 100gb in storage capacity!
Unfortunately I can't confirm if the DLC is on the disc of the enhanced edition or not. I think the physical enhanced edition is only on Xbox because the PlayStation release came out before the enhanced edition was a thing.
But yeah I share your annoyance when content isn't all available on the disc and it requires huge downloads. It's not good for game preservation either because when the consoles are disconnected from their servers you'll never be able to experience the full game ever again.
I loved playing the two original games (Oddysee and Exoddus) since I was a child back in 97, never tried Munch, but at this point, since I saw how it is, I know it would be disappointing. It seems to me like they are pulling these kind of things off just to get a quick buck for as long as it lasts. I think they know their franchise isn't going anywhere anymore. Soulstorm at launch was really disappointing, I think it's safe to say it was unplayable.
Yeah on release it was clearly in a completely unfinished state. Luckily they have done a lot of updates since then so it's a lot better, but still the overall experience is just a bit lacking. I think they needed to dial it back a bit in terms of not having a crafting system and stuff like that. It didn't need to be as long as it was either to be honest.
Munch is a lot worse from my experience with them though so at least it has that going for it!
Separating the dlc levels between different platforms is some 6th and 7th console generation bullshit.
Yeah I really don't understand why they would have made the decision to do that. It's such a stupid idea to alienate a section of your player base like that!
Ah yes, the enhanced edition of a game that released this year?
I'm happy Xboxers have a copy now, but still, feels kinda weird.
Yeah it is a bit weird how quickly they pushed out the Enhanced Edition, but to be fair I feel like that happens a lot. Stuff like the Director’s Cut of Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima came out reasonably close to the initial release. But yeah either way! I’m glad it’s on Xbox now too :D
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Hello there! 🙂
Sh1tstorm more like!
Seriously though it looks pretty good, will still pick it up at some point
Haha, yeah that about sums it up 😂
But yeah, even though there’s a few things I don’t like about it, it is a good game and it’s worth giving a go. It’s a bit annoying in some sections and it’s slow to start but there is a glint of something great there in certain moments.