Those autos, activa aunties and splendor uncles on the "slow" lane is the reason why I have to hog the middle or fast lane (if not a 6 lane highway)... I ride an RS200 and it can do 100 - 110 with very minor strain so I can stay in the fast lane but I don't want to be on the fast lanes bcz I don't if the Creta guy behind me uses dipper in moderation... So, I love the middle lane when I have to access to it...
The 'Mat Jio' quip is easily the best one so far to feature in the podcast as a result of Shumi's quick wit. Can only imagine this man's sarcasm levels off camera 😂
I want to be as eloquent and word usage efficient as Shumi. His delivery is smooth AF. And Kartikey’s in between pauses and deep voice make us connect to the topics.Love this show!
I could never watch or listen to a podcast without losing interest after a couple of episodes but I'm able to watch you guys talk without forcing myself or being distracted and I just love the minimalistic vibe of the channel. It's so easy to listen when you guys are talking and both of you have amazing stories to share. With the amount of knowledge you guys are providing, I'm thinking of noting down points next time. This is quality content and I'm glad I found this channel. I would also love to hear you guys discuss about riding skills such as rev matching, clutchless shifting and similar ones for driving and whether they matter. Thank you for the amazing content!
I have a Honda CBR250R and Maruti Swift Zxi and I feel the most comfortable at speeds between 80 and 100 kmph on the top most gear. Both the vehicles feel smooth and stress free between those speeds (I'm talking about open roads here). Occasional 150 kmph is fun though. Edit : Finished watching the podcast now. Wonderful one. Very interesting and logical. Thank you both.
I didn't know so much could be spoken about Speeding/Speed limits! I thought it was a silly topic when I saw the notification for this video. But now that I have finished watching, i feel like I've unlocked a whole new dimension! Great conversation guys 👌🏻 This was very insightful with so many personal experiences shared. Keep conversing and allowing us to be a fly on the wall! Absolutely loved it. Thank you.
Riders we are afraid of on the road: 1. Tilted head rider (talking on the phone). 2. Chhapris (for the lack of a better word) who swivel their bikes around. 3. The patakha exhaust enthusiasts (I have encountered a crash where one bullet rider popped his exhaust under a tunnel and a lady on a scooty just lost her balance and crashed). 4. Riders who turn both of their mirrors inwards so they join hands in the middle, why?? 5. The pencil jeans gang of Riders who, for some strange reason, take one motorcycle for a group of 4 guys. 6. Delivery agents who don't care to stop at the side while checking their phones. I have seen delivery guys operating their mobiles upwards of 60 seconds at a time. That's is bonkers. 7. E-rikshaws who try to save their battery juice by switching their headlights off. Now I have a metal cage with humans shoved in, coming at me silently @25 kmph in complete darkness. Now, about speed. I have a rule of thumb while on the highways, no matter what the posted speed is for that particular road, you would find that there is a practical speed at which the traffic is in motion, let's say of that practical speed is 65 kmph, I would ride at about 70. But not 60, always a little bit faster but not too much. And while touring (a lot of unfamiliar roads), I pick a spotter (a vehicle about 100 meters ahead of me) which I use as a guide. If there is a bump on the road, the spotter will go through that 3-5 seconds before me, allowing me to account for that undulation. Like always, I had a great time. Bless you all. Keep up the good work.❤
Did you know that a "a bit faster than traffic", 15% to be precise, is what the British Motorcycle Policemen's manual recommends as the safest way to operate in traffic? Overtaking puts you in control o the situation so gently passing traffic _all the time_ is safer for a bike than flowing with it, or being passed by it
This is exactly what auto channels lacked, discussions peppered with chemistry and a (Thankful) lack of annoying background music and frantic visuals. Shumi's sharp truth-bombs and Karthikeya's civility :D what a combination! Love it! This is geeks talking. Kudos to your visual artists for respecting contrast and the visual calm. Suggestion: why not have a section where you can have one of your subscribers (carefully chosen ofcourse) to join you in this discourse? and try to make it a regular person not another journo.
Our Highways are full of over-loaded trucks which rarely goes above 40-50 kmph. I don't think it will make any sense for make that speed as Cap for minimum speed. In my personal experience, even if the trucks are not over-loaded, they do not go over 50 kmph in most cases.
If the minimum speed limit comes into effect in India and we get sufficient cameras to catch the offenders, the government could make a lot of money. I have always observed that the local villagers on highways generally travel in the middle of the road with the lowest speeds possible with audacity. PS: We also need highways designed to eliminate jaywalking.
Splendid video Shumi & Karthik. Many of us are not ready to accept our skill level in driving/riding. I have a few friends who explain how they gave tough for a luxury/performance car on a weekend drive and how they 'won'. Also, when a friend or relative of mine meets with an accident. They are always right and the other person involved is at fault. Be it pedestrian or a truck driver. Has anyone experienced this😅.
I can't come out of my bed because I have a very high fever and feel super fatigued, and I started listening to this podcast and I feel so relaxed and comfortable. I hope I get well soon.
Most of the roads don't have clear speed limits mentioned, but whenever it is there i stick around it because I believe I will be safer around that limit, another indication on highways are rubble strips whenever I encounter it it's clear that there is a town or an intersection ahead where I need to be attentive. Also you made a good point of car maintenance as I heard in the news recently that most of the accidents on samruddhi mahamarg are due to poorly maintained vehicles. So that needs to be taken care of. Thank you for such interesting and informative podcasts, i would suggest that you run a poll about what all things people want to know about any particular topic and then you can add them accordingly.
Sat with a cup of coffee, a slice of homemade cake, watched the sun set and listened to this podcast. I think this is the best day I've had in a while :)
We need one podcast where singhee discusses how to drive a car well. As a single driver and with other passengers in the car. The skills required and how to have a good avg speed without tiring out your passengers. That'll be the one that'll help me a lot
When my group of friends go out we in deed notice that the average distance covered on certain time is same, but some one drive is smooth, event less and other persons driving really makes it stressful journey Never understood why. ( traffic is more or less similar)
I have done quite a bit of highway/expressway driving in recent past. I never chase people who are coming from behind and always overtake when I am coming from behind. This has made my driving logic quite simple and safe. Also, I try to understand my speed limit before applying these rules, even after a short break along a long drive. The issue is there are few people who has a sense of ego attached to their speed and either are very lethargic to give way or will try to block you proactively. Now, I have only two options, either I can chase and make both prone to mishaps or to gently let them get away with it sacrificing my speed for both of our safety. I mostly face this when I am driving my ignis, and try to overtake VWs and BMWs and sometime even swifts. Please enlighten on how to handle these people who will speed up when they feel a smaller/less powerful car trying to overtake them?
Keep learning. Past few months my friend’s Dominor has been staying in my garage. A life filled with nothing but Enfield’s, it took help from an expert to understand how to sit, first off. I was so aggressive and fast in the beginning, stressed out - me & the machine, but with practice, my sense of speed has become rational. That zone/sweet spot, each machine & road, their own.
It just so awesome to see these videos , Here I am around 2 am in the night after a 12 hour shift watching this and i never even think of stopping and getting some sleep Kudos to this channel and both of for the great content Keep that coming will be waiting for sure 👍🏻
Wow, just so many things that i feel like pausing and commenting, I think you guys should do a live podcast with chat options. and I definitely love the dark side of Shumi sir. "MatJIO"I think that was the best I have heard so far
@@motorinc 'Simple is the ultimate sophistication' from my POV, why we need a fastest bike or quickest bike or best-in-class bike?... we need a bike to fulfill our needs and with enjoyment in doing it
On 80 kmph speed limit we see trackers going by 10kmph, auto , splendor guys on 40, overloaded trucks on 40-60kmph on all lanes, few cars trucks on 80-100 and few just using 100% of their bike/car power☮️
If I was driving and gave a lift to a cop on the Mum-Pune expressway, and the cop told me that I can go faster I would A) CRY!! b) move to wherever this man lives c) get off the car, go in the back seat hug him and tell him tum bahut acha kaam kiya maqsood bhai
I go fast sometimes but doesn't necessarily mean that I'm riding at 120 (can't go more than 65-70 even on highways here in my area). If I'm scared driving at certain speeds then I definitely will slow down. Gotta do my part to ensure my own and others' safety.
This is a great forum. Please do talk about our city Pune's disregard for traffic rules - jumping red lights, wrong side driving, without-helmet riding.
Wow that notice before commenting was great. Only expected from such responsible guys. Well if there will be a minimum speed limits (on national highways and expressway only) , initially it will be a panic (like fast tags) for commons. But in a relatively shorter time people will adapt to it( and guess what will leave the rightest lane😂).
It's true of many roads in India, actually. We did ask a bunch of truckers on a stretch in Bihar why they did that. They told us that the more unpredictable they think the left lane is going to be (cyclists, slow traffic, pedestrians as well as super fast overtakers... depending on the roads) the more the trucks want to "close off" one side so they have to monitor less... hence top lane.
Could you also do a video on talking about modifications and their legality. Also people need to understand having a high beam on doens't mean the guy in front will take off! There is been a huge problem with high beams and how and where there are used.
I think this debate regarding speed limit also depends on the way you drive. I drive a Pulsar N160… I speed when I’m driving solo, and on straight roads where traffic is very little. The main concern that I usually have is other vehicles driving like crazy. It’s important to give indicators when switching a lane or the fact that bike aerodynamics are very different when you have a person sitting behind you. Plus, most people sitting in the back actually don’t sit well enough for the bike to be aerodynamic. So if you wanna speed, SPEED SOLO, SPEED RESPONSIBLY and kindly ensure you don’t become another example of DARWINISM
Much informative video for all the drivers out there👍🏻 I think as Indians we can be better drivers if we have the patience to learn something before jumping onto the conclusion that I got a license and now I’ve learnt the way of driving in any type of roads in our own way which eventually end up in a bad situation for everyone out there . Ride fast but be attentive on roads conditions ahead & the signs boards. Thank me later as that’s the only part of being safe out there. Me who drives a tin can through expressways and worst highways in country till date trust me not met with a single crash coz I know the car is not safe beyond that certain point.
34:50 We have a Innova Crysta and except the people in the front Others would not wear seat belt in the car so I showed then some graphic content of people flying off the car without seat belt in an accident And now all of them wear seat belt in the car
I’d say step 1 is for the RTO folks to enforce driving exams - I’d be interested to find out(and this data probably exists somewhere in the public domain) how many people fail the driving exam. I’m sure it’s way lower than it should be. The system is so broken in some states in the North that I have a friend who has a license to drive a tractor!! My own driving exam lasted like 10 seconds - I started to pull the seat-belt and the examined said: ‘ arre aap toh serious ho gaye’ 😅 Step 2 would be then to aggressively enforce rules within city limits so that folks are a little more civilized by the time they hit the highway…
And then there is the point about clear signboards which unfortunately don’t exist in the country. I can go on and on… 😄 People are idiots all across the world - the governments need to put them in a system that is kinda idiot proof and then enforce it. Some countries do it better than we do.
Shumi always jumps the gun and kartikeya is such calm and composed personality that he pulls you back in. How in hell did they find this combo. Watching your videos is such a roller coaster ride. I love all of it, shumi or (my favourite) kartikeya.
Speed as amazing as it is, is fatal for many cos some jackasses think they are studs. (And maybe i was one, 15yrs back) 😂 But now i ride in the city mostly, so anything beyond 110km/hr on the highway feels m flying ! 😂 Btw congrats Motorinc, most of our automotive channel are trying to go your (or should i say our) way. Motorinc has finally brought that much needed change in the community ! Thats called IMPACT ! And im loving it ❤ Long Live Motorinc !
I'm the only biker I know who uses indicators for lane switching. Believe me when I say this, I have never seen another biker use their indicators when changing lanes. It drives me mad sometimes when these riders suddenly switch lanes without signaling or even checking their mirrors. When it comes to road safety and awareness, India feels like it's 50 years behind other countries specifically my city. By the way, I just discovered your channel, and wow, it's exactly what I’ve been looking for. You guys are incredible-keep up the amazing work!
Guys lovely podcast. Such a shame most expressways don't allow bikes, that's a sad part. Thoughtful driving/riding makes roads safer, even speeding can be safer at that point of time. I feel the pleasure of driving is a gift, such an enjoyable experience that's priceless. Authorities has to think out of the box and make it safer by different means. Driving is not just point A-->B. It's an emotion for many out there on the roads.
Great topic and awesome discussion, I just did the Ahmedabad Vadodara express way in a taxi, was just thinking can we not educate people on safe riding and safe use of the express way just by installing some literature or some signs on the long and boring express ways along the way. And I would request use of traffic signals and etiquettes as the next topic for the podcast as these are becoming the stress points in major city's now.
I always look forward to ThisConnect episodes. Apart from the knowledge gained you guys have calming voices and the entire setup especially the chairs look so relaxing to the eye even. Much love ❤
The road thickness of the autonhan is similar to the runway at the airport and people don't change lanes until they want to really fast or overtake. In india even if there is a 4 lane highway, there will be a slow vehicles on all lanes most of the time or if it is late night it will be occupied by trucks. If you travel on the towards pune around 3-4 am on the ghat section, it is common to see all three lanes occupied by trucks and a bunch of cars trying to squeeze and create an extra lane
120 -140kph speed limits on expressways is not the problem. The issue is extremely poor lane discipline and some people thinking oye race track hai BC. People being poor judge of how much speed can be scrubbed off or how much speed can be carried through a stretch all leads to crashes. I strongly feel that if I have to pay 5-600 or more to use a stretch of road I'm not driving at 80 f*****g km/h. We keep paying tolls for what essentially should be 'free' considering its built using our taxes & we keep being milked using tolls at every stretch long after cost has been recouped. I don't agree with blanket ban of 2 wheelers on expressways. 250cc & up should be allowed on expressway .
Whoooaaa!!! What a topic, guys. I agree with every bit/min of it. Sensible rides/drives are the actual missing link on our roads. The speed limit is required in our scenario significantly to save those "Mat JIO" wali Janta. 35:40 I agree entirely with Kartikeya, the tier licensing system will be great. However, for high-performance two-wheelers, we MUST have a different licensing system, training, etc., as mandatory.
01:48 THIS. Most people drive/ride painfully slow. Traffic pace in my city is ~25kmph. And because I ride wearing a helmet, this much slow ride results in frasustration! People ride so slow because they don't want to fall because they don't wear a single riding gear, not even a helmet and no seat belts in a car.
I'm in Shillong. Speeds of 80 kmph are comfortable at certain sections on the smooth highways. On local small roads you are asking to meet whichever maker you believe in at anything beyond 50 - 70. All the roads are very windy and many times not in a fun way.
The Bengaluru-Mysore Expressway is still allowing motorcycles, if you want to. i just did, and it was bittersweet. I was legally at a speed that's comfortable for me and my motorcycle, but there were other vehicles who insist on going 20-40kph over the speed limit.
I am definitely very happy that you guys r talking about issues no one even thinks to discuss about, everyone thinks driving or riding is simple, but as speeds road conditions and weather changes all of a sudden everything can get tricky and sometimes even dangerous, so definitely a 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻for a discussion which is quite serious but important as well, I have always loved driving on UAE roads and a lot of stuff you talked about is implemented there. Of course I will not comment about Roads of Countries I have not Driven/Rode on. And you guys definitely speak clearly and softly, instead of trying to drive home a point you guys are making us think and understand about that point and that is important in today’s situation.
Speed is a function of what that road will allow, can u vehicle take it and finally can u take it.. Mumbai pune i have done that road it can easily take 120kmph or more however the person driving should be able to handle, some sections will be below 100
Lovely conversation guys. Very well done. Enjoyed it a lot. But if I may say so, I think this topic and this discussion has the potential to not land on some folks; maybe even on some informed enthusiasts. The way you guys examined the topic is way too cerebral I think. The approach of peeling the onion layer by layer is no doubt very interesting. And many of us have clearly enjoyed this video thoroughly. But for others, just keep it simple and say “do the speed limit or less, or else..” Like Shumi says we just aren’t yet an evolved driving community like some other nations. I have friends who do Mumbai Bangalore in under 9 hrs. Me? The bobbing suspension of my car keeps me at 90 to 100 and I am quite ok with that. Karthik absolutely nailed it with that articulation. The thing that constantly runs in my mind is, “is this safe?” When the question pops up, I know that I am already way out of my comfort zone.
Hey Passion CommonSense, been a while! All ok? We get what you are saying, but in the same breath, the intention is not to try and talk to everyone... that's a broadcast, not a conversation.
@@motorinc all good. Thank you. I have been here only. Commented on the videos about second hand vehicles and about touring. I think you guys missed those comments and some random visitor to your office checked off my comments with a canned response.
Tata sumo example brought back old memories of growing up roadtriping in a Sumo and then learning to drive it. It was just like what shumi said, once it reached 60/80kmph you hated to lose speed. But over these years I realised people on roads lack basic etiquettes. You will find people sitting on road dividers and chatting with their feet stretched out. Crossing from places where there are no spaces to cross. Riding/driving while talking on cell phones and then have audacity to blame others. Speed limits in India serve to avoid the chaos that will be caused if they are absent. Getting DL has become tough but it still easy to procure one from an agent with good connections.
What are your thoughts on people driving on expressways like delhi mumbai , mumbai pune in cars that were failed in crash test like most of Marutis and others?
The idea is to not crash. That requires skill, care and caution. Everyone - crash test rated or not - should exercise these ideas. Crashes won't be 64kmph crashes only. They could be higher. Then what?
What a heck ya ?? I listened to 50 minutes of your conversation without feeling bored, even I got bored while watching Jawan movie.😅 hats off to your jugalbandhi 👍
Does speed really matter? Or its more about ACCELARATION? For me particularly, i like the rush of accelaration for going from 20 to 80kph (bangalore perspective so 80 is godspeed). What is your perspective @MotorInc
on open Indian highways I think 80-100 is best speed for car as well as bike, as if something comes your way you will be able to control your vehicle & fuel efficiency will be better as well.
You forgot the bent neck scooterist! I can’t help but think their childrens necks would be bent too. This was much needed considering the new Samruddhi/ Pragati expressways are having increasing accidents due to overspeeding or lack of maintenance
Speed is highly dependent on the type of vehicle. On my dads Alto I couldnt feel safe going over 80 kph. So on the Pune Expressway even though the limit was 100 kph I simply couldn't maintain those speeds with any confidence and dropped speed to 80 kph. On my dad's Freestyle 100 kph feels very comfortable. I used to travel the Expressway when the limit was 120 kph and I did find it a tad excessive given the roads aren't that straight.
Speed is relative to environment for bikes . You feel speed with every increase by 20 kmph above 80 kmph wind drag increases , fuel consumption is another factor .
It's the first time I've seen someone recognising Motojustu. He is one of the best in the business and does tell the harsh truth that we need to upskill and practice. Kudos guys 😌
Whether its minimum or maximum speed, the most important changes we need is lane discipline, right of way and basic general common sense courtesy to other motorists. For a nation full of people who are rarely punctual, the mad hurry to get ahead on the road baffles me.
please give a detailed comparison on 350 cc bikes mainly classic 350 and honda highnesss. I have booked classic 350 for my daily office use. Hope i made the right choice
What happens when we put a minimum speed limit ? 1. Protests, 2. Disregard by motorists and 3. Reduction in number of vehicles plying on that road once fines start. In effect nothing catastrophic is going to happen as "feared/peddled" by the striking group and in the longer term lesser accidents as a lot of them happen when there's a speed mismatch.
Being able to assess your skills - Great. But how many people do we think would accrately gauge their own skills. I myself used to overestimate my skills earlier and used to brag about it, and now seem to have toned it down a notch
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“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
― Jeremy Clarkson
Lmao this was the first that popped up in my mind when seeing this...
Speed has killed many. But remaining stationary is for trees. Some order is needed, that's all
God damn it, I was going to say this. 😤
@@mg1721 Speed and Powerrrrrr
These words have a huge 'impact' 😆
I am not afraid of an overspeeding rash riding chappri. But a dead slow riding 70YO chacha on an activa often gives me mini heart attacks.
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Or the same chacha driving rickshaw on the highways. 🫀🚀
My worst nightmares are not fast cars on highways but they are slow and unpredictable auto rickshaws in the city
Those autos, activa aunties and splendor uncles on the "slow" lane is the reason why I have to hog the middle or fast lane (if not a 6 lane highway)... I ride an RS200 and it can do 100 - 110 with very minor strain so I can stay in the fast lane but I don't want to be on the fast lanes bcz I don't if the Creta guy behind me uses dipper in moderation...
So, I love the middle lane when I have to access to it...
That's why Sumo was India's family car. In an event of an accident, no one in the family is left alive.
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Condom on four wheels😂
Awwww... Brooo😮
The 'Mat Jio' quip is easily the best one so far to feature in the podcast as a result of Shumi's quick wit.
Can only imagine this man's sarcasm levels off camera 😂
You can't!
I want to be as eloquent and word usage efficient as Shumi. His delivery is smooth AF. And Kartikey’s in between pauses and deep voice make us connect to the topics.Love this show!
Thanks Suhas!
I could never watch or listen to a podcast without losing interest after a couple of episodes but I'm able to watch you guys talk without forcing myself or being distracted and I just love the minimalistic vibe of the channel. It's so easy to listen when you guys are talking and both of you have amazing stories to share. With the amount of knowledge you guys are providing, I'm thinking of noting down points next time. This is quality content and I'm glad I found this channel.
I would also love to hear you guys discuss about riding skills such as rev matching, clutchless shifting and similar ones for driving and whether they matter.
Thank you for the amazing content!
Hullo Karthik! Thanks so much! Suggestions noted! We'll see what we can do! Thanks.
Tell us about your crashes or accidents and how you cope up with it. Also how to deal with a accident situation. Also really enjoying the podcast ❤️💐
Ohh yes! Would be great lesson on how to deal with, in an unfortunate situation.
Thanks SJ and YM! Noted!
yes please!
Yes please.
Yes please
I have a Honda CBR250R and Maruti Swift Zxi and I feel the most comfortable at speeds between 80 and 100 kmph on the top most gear. Both the vehicles feel smooth and stress free between those speeds (I'm talking about open roads here). Occasional 150 kmph is fun though.
Edit : Finished watching the podcast now. Wonderful one. Very interesting and logical. Thank you both.
Thank you RP! That speed zone is super chill! Wish you happy journeys!
I didn't know so much could be spoken about Speeding/Speed limits!
I thought it was a silly topic when I saw the notification for this video.
But now that I have finished watching, i feel like I've unlocked a whole new dimension!
Great conversation guys 👌🏻
This was very insightful with so many personal experiences shared.
Keep conversing and allowing us to be a fly on the wall!
Absolutely loved it. Thank you.
Thanks Dheeraj! Glad you enjoyed the podcast!
Riders we are afraid of on the road:
1. Tilted head rider (talking on the phone).
2. Chhapris (for the lack of a better word) who swivel their bikes around.
3. The patakha exhaust enthusiasts (I have encountered a crash where one bullet rider popped his exhaust under a tunnel and a lady on a scooty just lost her balance and crashed).
4. Riders who turn both of their mirrors inwards so they join hands in the middle, why??
5. The pencil jeans gang of Riders who, for some strange reason, take one motorcycle for a group of 4 guys.
6. Delivery agents who don't care to stop at the side while checking their phones. I have seen delivery guys operating their mobiles upwards of 60 seconds at a time. That's is bonkers.
7. E-rikshaws who try to save their battery juice by switching their headlights off. Now I have a metal cage with humans shoved in, coming at me silently @25 kmph in complete darkness.
Now, about speed. I have a rule of thumb while on the highways, no matter what the posted speed is for that particular road, you would find that there is a practical speed at which the traffic is in motion, let's say of that practical speed is 65 kmph, I would ride at about 70. But not 60, always a little bit faster but not too much. And while touring (a lot of unfamiliar roads), I pick a spotter (a vehicle about 100 meters ahead of me) which I use as a guide. If there is a bump on the road, the spotter will go through that 3-5 seconds before me, allowing me to account for that undulation.
Like always, I had a great time. Bless you all. Keep up the good work.❤
Did you know that a "a bit faster than traffic", 15% to be precise, is what the British Motorcycle Policemen's manual recommends as the safest way to operate in traffic? Overtaking puts you in control o the situation so gently passing traffic _all the time_ is safer for a bike than flowing with it, or being passed by it
That's the right thing. Righteous.
A very articulate podcast on speed. Once a wise man said "speed doesn't kill anyone, suddenly becoming stationary that's what gets you".
Hah! JC's been quoted way too many times in this comment stream
Love the cool setup, calm and sedated way of discussion. This is one of the best podcast available in TH-cam.
Wow, thank you NS and IPOH!
They are auto journalism "GIANTS" for a reason 🙌
♥️
This is exactly what auto channels lacked, discussions peppered with chemistry and a (Thankful) lack of annoying background music and frantic visuals.
Shumi's sharp truth-bombs and Karthikeya's civility :D what a combination! Love it! This is geeks talking.
Kudos to your visual artists for respecting contrast and the visual calm.
Suggestion: why not have a section where you can have one of your subscribers (carefully chosen ofcourse) to join you in this discourse? and try to make it a regular person not another journo.
Thanks for the suggestion Sahal! Let us look into it
Our Highways are full of over-loaded trucks which rarely goes above 40-50 kmph. I don't think it will make any sense for make that speed as Cap for minimum speed. In my personal experience, even if the trucks are not over-loaded, they do not go over 50 kmph in most cases.
And in the mountains/hills it’s far slower still.
If the minimum speed limit comes into effect in India and we get sufficient cameras to catch the offenders, the government could make a lot of money. I have always observed that the local villagers on highways generally travel in the middle of the road with the lowest speeds possible with audacity.
PS: We also need highways designed to eliminate jaywalking.
It will come for sure.
It must start with the fastest roads (which are access controlled) and very very slowly spread out
Splendid video Shumi & Karthik. Many of us are not ready to accept our skill level in driving/riding. I have a few friends who explain how they gave tough for a luxury/performance car on a weekend drive and how they 'won'. Also, when a friend or relative of mine meets with an accident. They are always right and the other person involved is at fault. Be it pedestrian or a truck driver. Has anyone experienced this😅.
Yeah, anyone thinking they 'won' on the street is just being silly and potentially dangerous to everyone else
I can't come out of my bed because I have a very high fever and feel super fatigued, and I started listening to this podcast and I feel so relaxed and comfortable. I hope I get well soon.
Get well soon Gani! This too shall pass!
Most of the roads don't have clear speed limits mentioned, but whenever it is there i stick around it because I believe I will be safer around that limit, another indication on highways are rubble strips whenever I encounter it it's clear that there is a town or an intersection ahead where I need to be attentive.
Also you made a good point of car maintenance as I heard in the news recently that most of the accidents on samruddhi mahamarg are due to poorly maintained vehicles. So that needs to be taken care of.
Thank you for such interesting and informative podcasts, i would suggest that you run a poll about what all things people want to know about any particular topic and then you can add them accordingly.
Thanks for the suggestion and insights, Akshay!
Sat with a cup of coffee, a slice of homemade cake, watched the sun set and listened to this podcast. I think this is the best day I've had in a while :)
Nice! BTW, was it carrot cake? Somehow that just seems to fit. And, Thank you!
@@motorinc it was a chocolate sponge cake. But, I'll try to make carrot cake for the next episode!
Really appreciated this well-informed and conscious take on harnessing speed.
Thanks Ritwik!
We need one podcast where singhee discusses how to drive a car well. As a single driver and with other passengers in the car. The skills required and how to have a good avg speed without tiring out your passengers. That'll be the one that'll help me a lot
Can do!
When my group of friends go out we in deed notice that the average distance covered on certain time is same, but some one drive is smooth, event less and other persons driving really makes it stressful journey
Never understood why. ( traffic is more or less similar)
I have done quite a bit of highway/expressway driving in recent past. I never chase people who are coming from behind and always overtake when I am coming from behind. This has made my driving logic quite simple and safe. Also, I try to understand my speed limit before applying these rules, even after a short break along a long drive.
The issue is there are few people who has a sense of ego attached to their speed and either are very lethargic to give way or will try to block you proactively. Now, I have only two options, either I can chase and make both prone to mishaps or to gently let them get away with it sacrificing my speed for both of our safety. I mostly face this when I am driving my ignis, and try to overtake VWs and BMWs and sometime even swifts.
Please enlighten on how to handle these people who will speed up when they feel a smaller/less powerful car trying to overtake them?
Keep learning. Past few months my friend’s Dominor has been staying in my garage. A life filled with nothing but Enfield’s, it took help from an expert to understand how to sit, first off. I was so aggressive and fast in the beginning, stressed out - me & the machine, but with practice, my sense of speed has become rational. That zone/sweet spot, each machine & road, their own.
Right on!
It just so awesome to see these videos , Here I am around 2 am in the night after a 12 hour shift watching this and i never even think of stopping and getting some sleep
Kudos to this channel and both of for the great content
Keep that coming will be waiting for sure 👍🏻
That is awesome! Grateful!
42:19 Sorry it's the truck lane and sometimes the Activa lane !!
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Wow, just so many things that i feel like pausing and commenting, I think you guys should do a live podcast with chat options. and I definitely love the dark side of Shumi sir. "MatJIO"I think that was the best I have heard so far
AP! Good to see you back in our comments!
The talk and review you guys delivered on Suzuki Hayabusa totally changed by way of approach to my motorcycle
Really! How so? Would love to know!
@@motorinc 'Simple is the ultimate sophistication' from my POV, why we need a fastest bike or quickest bike or best-in-class bike?... we need a bike to fulfill our needs and with enjoyment in doing it
It has become a routine for me to listen to your podcasts while commuting to office everyday morning😅
Lovely! Thanks LKV!
Not in a bike na👍❤️
On 80 kmph speed limit we see trackers going by 10kmph, auto , splendor guys on 40, overloaded trucks on 40-60kmph on all lanes, few cars trucks on 80-100 and few just using 100% of their bike/car power☮️
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If I was driving and gave a lift to a cop on the Mum-Pune expressway, and the cop told me that I can go faster
I would A)
CRY!!
b) move to wherever this man lives
c) get off the car, go in the back seat hug him and tell him tum bahut acha kaam kiya maqsood bhai
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The videos are getting longer and more interesting. Great podcast again. Loved MAT JIO 😂
Awesome PN!
Listening to Shumi is bliss, thank you
You're so welcome Geovani!
Yes ... People do get special sim cards such as ' Mat Jio'.....for road usage ....😊😊😊
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I go fast sometimes but doesn't necessarily mean that I'm riding at 120 (can't go more than 65-70 even on highways here in my area). If I'm scared driving at certain speeds then I definitely will slow down. Gotta do my part to ensure my own and others' safety.
This is the way!
This is a great forum. Please do talk about our city Pune's disregard for traffic rules - jumping red lights, wrong side driving, without-helmet riding.
Can do!
Wow that notice before commenting was great. Only expected from such responsible guys.
Well if there will be a minimum speed limits (on national highways and expressway only)
, initially it will be a panic (like fast tags) for commons.
But in a relatively shorter time people will adapt to it( and guess what will leave the rightest lane😂).
Spot on KKT!
Motojitsu is a great guy. That guy taught me a lot about motorcycling.
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I've observed the main problem on Mumbai pune expressway is heavy loaded slow af trucks driving on a right lane and sometimes on both the lanes
It's true of many roads in India, actually. We did ask a bunch of truckers on a stretch in Bihar why they did that. They told us that the more unpredictable they think the left lane is going to be (cyclists, slow traffic, pedestrians as well as super fast overtakers... depending on the roads) the more the trucks want to "close off" one side so they have to monitor less... hence top lane.
Could you also do a video on talking about modifications and their legality.
Also people need to understand having a high beam on doens't mean the guy in front will take off!
There is been a huge problem with high beams and how and where there are used.
Great suggestions! Thank you VY!
Which podcast you're talking about at 49:50 please I cant find link
Please do a video on the common road etiquettes.
Must have etiquettes? Pondering.. pondering..
43:43 Actually I still have this doubt, Is it like speed limited lanes or the limit is universal across?
Universal unless specifically marked (which might happen at major interchanges where many lanes split off into many different highways)
@@motorinc Ahaa there it is, I saw a picture somewhere of something similar Now it makes sense.
21:49 hilarious😂😂😂
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I think this debate regarding speed limit also depends on the way you drive. I drive a Pulsar N160… I speed when I’m driving solo, and on straight roads where traffic is very little. The main concern that I usually have is other vehicles driving like crazy. It’s important to give indicators when switching a lane or the fact that bike aerodynamics are very different when you have a person sitting behind you. Plus, most people sitting in the back actually don’t sit well enough for the bike to be aerodynamic. So if you wanna speed, SPEED SOLO, SPEED RESPONSIBLY and kindly ensure you don’t become another example of DARWINISM
Much informative video for all the drivers out there👍🏻 I think as Indians we can be better drivers if we have the patience to learn something before jumping onto the conclusion that I got a license and now I’ve learnt the way of driving in any type of roads in our own way which eventually end up in a bad situation for everyone out there . Ride fast but be attentive on roads conditions ahead & the signs boards. Thank me later as that’s the only part of being safe out there. Me who drives a tin can through expressways and worst highways in country till date trust me not met with a single crash coz I know the car is not safe beyond that certain point.
Simple rule - be attentive. Thanks SP!
34:50 We have a Innova Crysta and except the people in the front
Others would not wear seat belt in the car so I showed then some graphic content of people flying off the car without seat belt in an accident
And now all of them wear seat belt in the car
That's one way to get it done, we suppose. 😊
22:02 "How will you appreciate the light without some darkness" - Shumi 2023
Satyavachan!
Loved the classification Saturday & Sunday Riders 😝Always enjoy the podcast no doubt in that at all 👍
Much appreciated!
A huge thank you for uploading to spotify, I love listening to podcasts when I sleep and spotify has sleep timer.
Our pleasure!
I’d say step 1 is for the RTO folks to enforce driving exams - I’d be interested to find out(and this data probably exists somewhere in the public domain) how many people fail the driving exam. I’m sure it’s way lower than it should be. The system is so broken in some states in the North that I have a friend who has a license to drive a tractor!! My own driving exam lasted like 10 seconds - I started to pull the seat-belt and the examined said: ‘ arre aap toh serious ho gaye’ 😅
Step 2 would be then to aggressively enforce rules within city limits so that folks are a little more civilized by the time they hit the highway…
And then there is the point about clear signboards which unfortunately don’t exist in the country. I can go on and on… 😄
People are idiots all across the world - the governments need to put them in a system that is kinda idiot proof and then enforce it. Some countries do it better than we do.
Well yes. There is a reason why we lead the world in crashes, injuries and fatalities... it's not just abundant population
-Shumi
Shumi always jumps the gun and kartikeya is such calm and composed personality that he pulls you back in. How in hell did they find this combo. Watching your videos is such a roller coaster ride. I love all of it, shumi or (my favourite) kartikeya.
Great video, I am consistently eager to watch episodes of ThisConnect.
Thank you!
Speed as amazing as it is, is fatal for many cos some jackasses think they are studs.
(And maybe i was one, 15yrs back) 😂
But now i ride in the city mostly, so anything beyond 110km/hr on the highway feels m flying ! 😂
Btw congrats Motorinc, most of our automotive channel are trying to go your (or should i say our) way.
Motorinc has finally brought that much needed change in the community ! Thats called IMPACT !
And im loving it ❤
Long Live Motorinc !
Ashes! Thank you! Thank you very much indeed!
I'm the only biker I know who uses indicators for lane switching. Believe me when I say this, I have never seen another biker use their indicators when changing lanes. It drives me mad sometimes when these riders suddenly switch lanes without signaling or even checking their mirrors. When it comes to road safety and awareness, India feels like it's 50 years behind other countries specifically my city.
By the way, I just discovered your channel, and wow, it's exactly what I’ve been looking for. You guys are incredible-keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for joining us @TimelyTurtle, glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience. 😊
Brilliant reference points and narration on process and governance skills and guidelines for all drivers / riders...luv it...
"Every guy who is slower than you is stupid n every guy who is faster than you is an a..hole"... 😂😂😂
Thanks CB!
Guys lovely podcast. Such a shame most expressways don't allow bikes, that's a sad part. Thoughtful driving/riding makes roads safer, even speeding can be safer at that point of time. I feel the pleasure of driving is a gift, such an enjoyable experience that's priceless. Authorities has to think out of the box and make it safer by different means. Driving is not just point A-->B. It's an emotion for many out there on the roads.
Great topic and awesome discussion, I just did the Ahmedabad Vadodara express way in a taxi, was just thinking can we not educate people on safe riding and safe use of the express way just by installing some literature or some signs on the long and boring express ways along the way. And I would request use of traffic signals and etiquettes as the next topic for the podcast as these are becoming the stress points in major city's now.
Okay, but what would make people abide by them? That would be the real trick.
@@motorinc Something very basic actually, very strict enforcement with modern tools available in hand.
God damn, i never knew Shumi was so dark, I'm really loving discovering new facet of your personalities✨
It's a faucet that never runs out!
I am 10 min in and I can't even explain how much I am enjoying ❤️.
Great content
Thank you so much 😀 VJ!
Abso absol absolu absolut absolute absolutel absolutely love these videos Shumi and Kartikeya!❤
Hola HSJ! Thanks so much for sticking around and chatting with us always!
I always look forward to ThisConnect episodes. Apart from the knowledge gained you guys have calming voices and the entire setup especially the chairs look so relaxing to the eye even. Much love ❤
Right back at you Suraj! Lotsa Love!
Shumi You can come and experience the Agra and Yamuna Expressway ! Bikes also pay toll! ENJOY! I have used ít multiple times for my tours ❤
Experience an arrow-straight road? Shumi says he'll pass 🤣
@@motorinc 😂😂
How can i make the whole country sit and make everyone to listen their podcast? The indian roads would be such a better place
Big task! 🤣
The coincidence! I was just thinking it would be great if you guys made a video on this, and here we go.
Aha! How'd we do it?
The road thickness of the autonhan is similar to the runway at the airport and people don't change lanes until they want to really fast or overtake. In india even if there is a 4 lane highway, there will be a slow vehicles on all lanes most of the time or if it is late night it will be occupied by trucks.
If you travel on the towards pune around 3-4 am on the ghat section, it is common to see all three lanes occupied by trucks and a bunch of cars trying to squeeze and create an extra lane
120 -140kph speed limits on expressways is not the problem. The issue is extremely poor lane discipline and some people thinking oye race track hai BC. People being poor judge of how much speed can be scrubbed off or how much speed can be carried through a stretch all leads to crashes.
I strongly feel that if I have to pay 5-600 or more to use a stretch of road I'm not driving at 80 f*****g km/h. We keep paying tolls for what essentially should be 'free' considering its built using our taxes & we keep being milked using tolls at every stretch long after cost has been recouped.
I don't agree with blanket ban of 2 wheelers on expressways. 250cc & up should be allowed on expressway .
Whoooaaa!!!
What a topic, guys. I agree with every bit/min of it. Sensible rides/drives are the actual missing link on our roads. The speed limit is required in our scenario significantly to save those "Mat JIO" wali Janta.
35:40 I agree entirely with Kartikeya, the tier licensing system will be great. However, for high-performance two-wheelers, we MUST have a different licensing system, training, etc., as mandatory.
Hullo! Thanks for chipping in here!
01:48 THIS. Most people drive/ride painfully slow. Traffic pace in my city is ~25kmph. And because I ride wearing a helmet, this much slow ride results in frasustration! People ride so slow because they don't want to fall because they don't wear a single riding gear, not even a helmet and no seat belts in a car.
I'm in Shillong. Speeds of 80 kmph are comfortable at certain sections on the smooth highways. On local small roads you are asking to meet whichever maker you believe in at anything beyond 50 - 70. All the roads are very windy and many times not in a fun way.
We've ridden there and we loved the Meghalaya highways for how interesting they were to ride on!
@@motorinc glad you love them. Come back again someday soon.
Soon hopefully!
What a Podcast. So knowledgeable, so expressive, awesome topic
Thank you so much!
The Bengaluru-Mysore Expressway is still allowing motorcycles, if you want to. i just did, and it was bittersweet. I was legally at a speed that's comfortable for me and my motorcycle, but there were other vehicles who insist on going 20-40kph over the speed limit.
Hey Anoop! Thanks for the heads-up! Super to know its open for bikers.
Had to pause and appreciate the MatJio pun😂😂😂
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I am definitely very happy that you guys r talking about issues no one even thinks to discuss about, everyone thinks driving or riding is simple, but as speeds road conditions and weather changes all of a sudden everything can get tricky and sometimes even dangerous, so definitely a 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻for a discussion which is quite serious but important as well, I have always loved driving on UAE roads and a lot of stuff you talked about is implemented there. Of course I will not comment about Roads of Countries I have not Driven/Rode on. And you guys definitely speak clearly and softly, instead of trying to drive home a point you guys are making us think and understand about that point and that is important in today’s situation.
Thank you!
Speed is a function of what that road will allow, can u vehicle take it and finally can u take it.. Mumbai pune i have done that road it can easily take 120kmph or more however the person driving should be able to handle, some sections will be below 100
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Lovely conversation guys. Very well done. Enjoyed it a lot.
But if I may say so, I think this topic and this discussion has the potential to not land on some folks; maybe even on some informed enthusiasts.
The way you guys examined the topic is way too cerebral I think. The approach of peeling the onion layer by layer is no doubt very interesting. And many of us have clearly enjoyed this video thoroughly. But for others, just keep it simple and say “do the speed limit or less, or else..”
Like Shumi says we just aren’t yet an evolved driving community like some other nations.
I have friends who do Mumbai Bangalore in under 9 hrs. Me? The bobbing suspension of my car keeps me at 90 to 100 and I am quite ok with that. Karthik absolutely nailed it with that articulation. The thing that constantly runs in my mind is, “is this safe?” When the question pops up, I know that I am already way out of my comfort zone.
Hey Passion CommonSense, been a while! All ok?
We get what you are saying, but in the same breath, the intention is not to try and talk to everyone... that's a broadcast, not a conversation.
@@motorinc all good. Thank you. I have been here only. Commented on the videos about second hand vehicles and about touring. I think you guys missed those comments and some random visitor to your office checked off my comments with a canned response.
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Very true about NZ roads. Speed adviser signs in yellow on corners are very helpful, especially on back country roads.
Tata sumo example brought back old memories of growing up roadtriping in a Sumo and then learning to drive it. It was just like what shumi said, once it reached 60/80kmph you hated to lose speed. But over these years I realised people on roads lack basic etiquettes. You will find people sitting on road dividers and chatting with their feet stretched out. Crossing from places where there are no spaces to cross. Riding/driving while talking on cell phones and then have audacity to blame others. Speed limits in India serve to avoid the chaos that will be caused if they are absent. Getting DL has become tough but it still easy to procure one from an agent with good connections.
We all have to step up our game. Lets do!
Road tarmac also matters like undulating patches
Yes, road conditions do matter a lot!
What are your thoughts on people driving on expressways like delhi mumbai , mumbai pune in cars that were failed in crash test like most of Marutis and others?
The idea is to not crash. That requires skill, care and caution. Everyone - crash test rated or not - should exercise these ideas. Crashes won't be 64kmph crashes only. They could be higher. Then what?
I loved the dark jokes. Hoping to get behind the scenes of this series.... As always great work guys!
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What a heck ya ?? I listened to 50 minutes of your conversation without feeling bored, even I got bored while watching Jawan movie.😅 hats off to your jugalbandhi 👍
Without a boom bawa.. you can't talk that deep.. shumi sir i love you sir
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Does speed really matter? Or its more about ACCELARATION? For me particularly, i like the rush of accelaration for going from 20 to 80kph (bangalore perspective so 80 is godspeed). What is your perspective @MotorInc
He's hiding something.. you know it..
@@motorinc 😝😝😝😝
on open Indian highways I think 80-100 is best speed for car as well as bike, as if something comes your way you will be able to control your vehicle & fuel efficiency will be better as well.
You forgot the bent neck scooterist! I can’t help but think their childrens necks would be bent too. This was much needed considering the new Samruddhi/ Pragati expressways are having increasing accidents due to overspeeding or lack of maintenance
Did we? Didn’t Kartikeya mention them? 😊
@@motorinc I mean the ones on a call. Neck bent to the left at 30/45 degrees
So did Kartikeya!
As Jeremy Clarkson said, "Speed has never killed anyone; It's suddenly becoming stationary that gets you." Fun discussion this episode!
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"Where your occupants are unaware that we're going through time and space at that rapid a pace " - now that's something to aspire to!
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20:51 omg! This podcast is all fun😂❤❤. Anyways as usual informative stuff from team MotorInc.
Thanks so much STG!
Speed is highly dependent on the type of vehicle. On my dads Alto I couldnt feel safe going over 80 kph. So on the Pune Expressway even though the limit was 100 kph I simply couldn't maintain those speeds with any confidence and dropped speed to 80 kph. On my dad's Freestyle 100 kph feels very comfortable. I used to travel the Expressway when the limit was 120 kph and I did find it a tad excessive given the roads aren't that straight.
True! Spot on Brendon!
Speed is relative to environment for bikes . You feel speed with every increase by 20 kmph above 80 kmph wind drag increases , fuel consumption is another factor .
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Truckers left the chat along with lane spliters
Where’d they go? Do you know? 😆
If they hear, they cant use the incredible skills,
Speaking of 250 cc displacement criteria on German Autobahn classic 350 is technically allowed on highway😂
It's the first time I've seen someone recognising Motojustu.
He is one of the best in the business and does tell the harsh truth that we need to upskill and practice.
Kudos guys 😌
Whether its minimum or maximum speed, the most important changes we need is lane discipline, right of way and basic general common sense courtesy to other motorists.
For a nation full of people who are rarely punctual, the mad hurry to get ahead on the road baffles me.
Tarred by the brush..
please give a detailed comparison on 350 cc bikes mainly classic 350 and honda highnesss. I have booked classic 350 for my daily office use. Hope i made the right choice
Shumi and Kartik rate it very highly! Great pick! Wish you happy rides!
Recently did a BOM - BLR in a DZire.
It was good...
110-120 was easy in Karnataka. Also controllable in that vehicle!
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Dude .. "MAT JIO" got me😂😂 I brust out with laughter in the office... Can't tell how I managed to cover up😂😂
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What happens when we put a minimum speed limit ? 1. Protests, 2. Disregard by motorists and 3. Reduction in number of vehicles plying on that road once fines start. In effect nothing catastrophic is going to happen as "feared/peddled" by the striking group and in the longer term lesser accidents as a lot of them happen when there's a speed mismatch.
Haha! NGL you had us with the second sentence... 🤣
Being able to assess your skills - Great. But how many people do we think would accrately gauge their own skills. I myself used to overestimate my skills earlier and used to brag about it, and now seem to have toned it down a notch
Simple - gauge it, and divide by 3. That's a great place to start, every time. Until ratified by someone else. Works? :-)
@@motorinc Yep that seems like a good number 👍