on my speakers the evokes are the winners. The MA sound is to glairy with sharp highs, the evokes are smother, with no less detail, better sense of the recording venue, and better texture to the sound. Winners by a mile.
Here's the thing with these two different designs. The monitor audio has a lot of transient attack in the highs. Those two high frequency units let you have it but it has a nice detail overall. The Dynaudio are a bit the other way, perhaps a bit smoothed over in the high mids. I think both would sound better if matched with appropriate amplifiers. Not the NAD , perhaps sim moon dynaudio and Hegel for monitor audio. I think this video shows the importance of matching components sympathetically. 😊
Somebody mentioned the MA's bass is fuller and I agree, but the Dynaudio's bass is faster and more punchy. And because of that, I find the MA's drums and vocals get a little muffled together while on the Evoke 50 you can clearly hear the cymbals on the drum and the drum doesn't interfere with the female vocal. The MA was doing just fine until you start hitting the higher notes on the guitar in the 2nd track and worse still the violin on the classical piece. At that point, I looked at the visual again and saw the ribbon tweeter on the MA and basically put two and two together. There was just no saving on that kind of sharpness, it was just too bright. The ribbon tweeter was OK with the female vocal because her voice wasn't that high-pitch and it sounded relatively airy, but once you get to that higher frequency range, it just fell apart for me. Whereas on the Evoke, I find the overall presentation of the music and the way all the drivers work together was cohesive. Nothing jumped out from the Dynaudio hardware, the mid range didn't, the silk dome tweeter didn't, it was just more seamless and balanced overall. As a conclusion, the first thing that came to mind was I find that you can really spend time to have an extended listening session with the Dynaudio, it is just one of those speakers, 2, 3, 4 hours no problem. The MA much less so pending on track/music selection too. If I were to buy one of the two pairs, yes I would take the Dynaudios without a question.
@@wineaudio2004 In terms of transient response, I would say again the Dynaudio's drivers especially the bass are more agile even though as I understand it is a long-throw design, still it comes across as better controlled than the MA. This could be the new Esotec+ woofer at work. The midrange driver is also working wonderfully. When you listen to the Beatles' acoustic guitar piece, on the Evoke you can actually feel the tension on the guitar strings when the player plucks them. It kind of reminds me of a Korean guitar player Ahn Jung Jae when he plays Michael Jackson's "Love Never Felt So Good" with his amazing finger style. All in all, I would say the MA has a more relaxing presentation to the music as compared to the Dynaudio's more upbeat take on the same material. When you listen to Yerin Baek's "Our love is great", on the MA you kind of just want to chill with the song, but on the Evoke I find myself bobbing my head and really getting into the track which if I am not wrong was a big hit in Korea. Going back to the subject of "transient response", when it comes down to it, the Dynaudio just has a better grip of the music, every note starts and stops pretty much where they are supposed to. They don't hang around with a longer decay like in some cases on the MA which may seem a tad lazy at times, thus its more relaxing nature. I am not sure about the situation in Korea, but the Evoke 50 seems to be selling very well. I follow a website called HiFiShark.com which basically gathers all the postings of hi-fi gear on sale online from around the world. I have been keeping taps on the Evoke 50 and the moment a reasonably priced offer comes out, it is snapped up almost immediately especially if is in gloss black. Initially, I was thinking about the Special 40 as so many people have been singing praises on it, now I am not so sure. What do you think about the Special 40 vs the Evoke 50?
MA GOLD - Warm and full low bass Evoke - High freq higher sounding. lean more to natural sounding for mid and mid-low. both have different characteritics. I believe evoke is easier to listen to on a longer period of time, where MA is really great for vocal song, classical , musical intrucment.
Clearly shows through the You Tube compression LOL😅. The NAD C388 is rated the same at 4 ohms as the AS2100, and the Gold 300s are 90db sensitive speakers, the NAD in this video will not be struggling. I own the Gold 300s with a yamaha AS3200. I find the comments in this video are hilarious, everyone thinks they can analyze the sound from TH-cam.
경험에서 우러나오는 현명한 조언 감사합니다. 제품 가격여부를 떠나 본인의 느끼는 바가 가장 중요하다는 말씀에 공감합니다. 저 또한 흑백 대결구도로 무언가 몰아가는 분위기가 썩 바르다 하긴 어렵다 사료됩니다만, 오디오 초심자분들 입장에서는 무언가 명확한 답/의견을 바라시는 경우가 대부분이다 보니 어느 정도의 가이드라인을 드리고자 하는 점이 있습니다. 이 점 양해 부탁드립니다. 감사합니다.
on my speakers the evokes are the winners.
The MA sound is to glairy with sharp highs, the evokes are smother, with no less detail, better sense of the recording venue, and better texture to the sound. Winners by a mile.
모니터오디오는 화사하고 섬세한 반면에 이보크 소리는 더 정갈하고 밀도감이 있는 것처럼 들립니다.
전 이보크에 한표. 개인적으로 자연스러운 음색이 좋아요/
I think i prefer MA gold here.
For my ears - MonitorAudio. Thank you for this video.
모니터오디오가 소리가 깔끔하고 개방적이네요...대신에 이보크는 부드럽고 저음이 좀더 있네요.
우열을 가릴 수가 없네요 둘 다 좋습니다
둘 다 넘 좋군요
우열을 가리기 힘들지만 개인적 취향은 이보크50
voices are more presence on Monitor, Dynaudio have more details in chords, violin, etc... Thanks for your great demo-video-sound !
Here's the thing with these two different designs. The monitor audio has a lot of transient attack in the highs. Those two high frequency units let you have it but it has a nice detail overall.
The Dynaudio are a bit the other way, perhaps a bit smoothed over in the high mids. I think both would sound better if matched with appropriate amplifiers. Not the NAD , perhaps sim moon dynaudio and Hegel for monitor audio.
I think this video shows the importance of matching components sympathetically. 😊
모니터 오디오쪽이 좋네요
MA (2:38) Evoke (2:42) Round2
I love gold 300
But, the real question for me is :
Gold 300 5g vs Platinum pl100 ii
Good question.
If the prices of the two models are similar, it would be a better choice to choose a high-end standmount. Platinum pl100 ii.
You should pay attention to the acoustics of the PMC. PMC Twenty.22, PMC Twenty.24 or PMC Twenty.26. This is a top-end Hi-End acoustics.
해상도는 모니터오디오가 더 뛰어난 것처럼 들리지만 약간 날리는 음이 들리는군요
종합적으로 썩어도 준치라고 다인이 조금 더 충실한 소리를 들려줍니다.
Somebody mentioned the MA's bass is fuller and I agree, but the Dynaudio's bass is faster and more punchy. And because of that, I find the MA's drums and vocals get a little muffled together while on the Evoke 50 you can clearly hear the cymbals on the drum and the drum doesn't interfere with the female vocal. The MA was doing just fine until you start hitting the higher notes on the guitar in the 2nd track and worse still the violin on the classical piece. At that point, I looked at the visual again and saw the ribbon tweeter on the MA and basically put two and two together. There was just no saving on that kind of sharpness, it was just too bright. The ribbon tweeter was OK with the female vocal because her voice wasn't that high-pitch and it sounded relatively airy, but once you get to that higher frequency range, it just fell apart for me. Whereas on the Evoke, I find the overall presentation of the music and the way all the drivers work together was cohesive. Nothing jumped out from the Dynaudio hardware, the mid range didn't, the silk dome tweeter didn't, it was just more seamless and balanced overall. As a conclusion, the first thing that came to mind was I find that you can really spend time to have an extended listening session with the Dynaudio, it is just one of those speakers, 2, 3, 4 hours no problem. The MA much less so pending on track/music selection too. If I were to buy one of the two pairs, yes I would take the Dynaudios without a question.
Thanks you for your analytic opinion about two different speakers. And what do you think about transient response characteristics of M/A and Dynaudio?
@@wineaudio2004 In terms of transient response, I would say again the Dynaudio's drivers especially the bass are more agile even though as I understand it is a long-throw design, still it comes across as better controlled than the MA. This could be the new Esotec+ woofer at work. The midrange driver is also working wonderfully. When you listen to the Beatles' acoustic guitar piece, on the Evoke you can actually feel the tension on the guitar strings when the player plucks them. It kind of reminds me of a Korean guitar player Ahn Jung Jae when he plays Michael Jackson's "Love Never Felt So Good" with his amazing finger style. All in all, I would say the MA has a more relaxing presentation to the music as compared to the Dynaudio's more upbeat take on the same material. When you listen to Yerin Baek's "Our love is great", on the MA you kind of just want to chill with the song, but on the Evoke I find myself bobbing my head and really getting into the track which if I am not wrong was a big hit in Korea. Going back to the subject of "transient response", when it comes down to it, the Dynaudio just has a better grip of the music, every note starts and stops pretty much where they are supposed to. They don't hang around with a longer decay like in some cases on the MA which may seem a tad lazy at times, thus its more relaxing nature. I am not sure about the situation in Korea, but the Evoke 50 seems to be selling very well. I follow a website called HiFiShark.com which basically gathers all the postings of hi-fi gear on sale online from around the world. I have been keeping taps on the Evoke 50 and the moment a reasonably priced offer comes out, it is snapped up almost immediately especially if is in gloss black. Initially, I was thinking about the Special 40 as so many people have been singing praises on it, now I am not so sure. What do you think about the Special 40 vs the Evoke 50?
Dynaudio evoke 50 Yami-Yami melodic sound.Monitor audio deep sound in classic music 🎵. Nice acoustic system
Thanks for your opinion!
MA (00:11) Evoke (1:24)
MA GOLD - Warm and full low bass
Evoke - High freq higher sounding. lean more to natural sounding for mid and mid-low.
both have different characteritics. I believe evoke is easier to listen to on a longer period of time, where MA is really great for vocal song, classical , musical intrucment.
agree!
Wow the other guy said just the opposite...,🤔
클래식을 주로 듣는데., 둘 사이의 차이가 크게 느껴지지 않을 만큼 둘다 마음에 듭니다.
개성이 다르지만 브랜드 인지도와 국내 기존 사용자들의 충성도만큼은 비등하게 훌륭합니다.
That's still no answer to witch sounds better...😟
Yeah, 1 thing I didn’t like the MA is that i feel like the box is not thick enough to handle the sound, sound hollow
Thanks for your opinion.
이보크가 조금
부드러운 느낌입니다
보컬은 모니터오디오쪽이 현악기는 다인오디오가 좋네요^^
Cheap amplifier was used, and it shows. With MA Gold 300 5G, amp should start from at least an Yamaha A-S1200. I speak from experience.
Thanks for your advice from experience.
Clearly shows through the You Tube compression LOL😅. The NAD C388 is rated the same at 4 ohms as the AS2100, and the Gold 300s are 90db sensitive speakers, the NAD in this video will not be struggling. I own the Gold 300s with a yamaha AS3200. I find the comments in this video are hilarious, everyone thinks they can analyze the sound from TH-cam.
저음 영역에서 밀도감과 단단함은 다인오디오. 풍부하면서도 깊은느낌은 모니터오디오. 탄노이 웅장하면서 화려한게 매력적이네요.
다인오디오 쭉쭉 뻣어가면서 힘있는 중음이 돋보이네요. 모니터오디오 따듯하면서 때로는 강렬하게 정렬적인 느낌. 탄노이 공간과 울림의 조화가 압도하는 느낌
고음 에 다인오디오는 여유롭고 정갈하게 잡아주는 시원한느낌. 모니터오디오 명료하며 정확한 때로는 예리하지만 날카로움은 잘 잡아내는듯 . 마지막 탄노이는 중음과 깊은 저음의 울림속에서 상큼한 과일과같은 달콤한 고음느껴지네요.
pc로청음 애쉬톤 at-3800 스피커와 creative 사운드 블러스터 zx 후기 입니다.
멋진 분석글 잘 보았습니다. 감사합니다~
오디오를 조금진중히 구력이쌓이면. 뭐가 좋다 명기다 최고 란 단어를 안쓰게되더군요
내게 맞는게 제일 좋은거지요
아무리 좋은소리통일지언정. 내귀에 안맞으면 안맞은것이고.
본인에게 좋으면 된거예요.
뭐가 압승. 무슨소리야 이게좋아 라고 단정지어버리는건. 좋지않더라구요. 즐거운 오기오생활이되길
경험에서 우러나오는 현명한 조언 감사합니다. 제품 가격여부를 떠나 본인의 느끼는 바가 가장 중요하다는 말씀에 공감합니다. 저 또한 흑백 대결구도로 무언가 몰아가는 분위기가 썩 바르다 하긴 어렵다 사료됩니다만, 오디오 초심자분들 입장에서는 무언가 명확한 답/의견을 바라시는 경우가 대부분이다 보니 어느 정도의 가이드라인을 드리고자 하는 점이 있습니다. 이 점 양해 부탁드립니다.
감사합니다.
@@wineaudio2004 전. 여기. 주인장님얘길한것이아니라. 덧글들이. 너무. 극단적인것같아. 너스레좀떨어봤습니다.
Compared to Dynaudio, the The MO Gold seems to have a retracted mid-range.
클래식에서는 모니터오디오가 더 낫네요.. 다인스피커는 뒤에 큰 스피커가 있어서 그런지 고음이 살짝 쏩니다. 그외에는 둘다 괜찮다고 봅니다.
Dynaudio 👍
Tannoy sounds greeeeeeeeeeeat!
다인이 좀더 밀도가 높은 소리 같네요.
다인이 더 생동감있어서 좋게 들리네~
The evoke 50 needs more power amp in case to has its full potential
제가 듣기에는 다인이 부드럽고 깔끔하고 정돈된 기분이 좋네요
So are there more votes for ma or dynaudio. I want to buy a used pair of gold 300 but cant decide vs revel f206
Monitor Audio🤘
good
May I know what song is this?
어, 큰 탄노이는 시연 안했는데 비데오가 끝나네요.
evoke 50도 굉장히 좋은데 컨투어 30i, 60i도 올려주실수는 없나요?
조만간 컨투어 20i도 올릴예정입니다.
Dynaudio Evoke 50 or Dali Rubicon 8? Which speakers will be better for various musical genres (mostly jazz/instrumental/soft rock)?
Dali's sound is represantative of soft, sweet tonal balance. If you think more general genres, recommandation can be lean to Dyn.
녹음한 이보크 압승이네용... 해상도와 선예도가 풍부하게 들립니다... 마치 턴테이블과 디지털 음원처럼 가격도 후덜덜합니다. ㅎㅎ
무슨 이보크 압승? 둘다 우열을 가릴수 없구먼...
@@전G-e7x 남의 개인 의견을 무시하다니!ㅎㅎ
가격이 비슷하고 쏘스가 같은데 음색은 차이가 있습니다..모니터골드는 화사하고 따뜻한 느낌 다인이보크는 정교하고 날카롭고 섬세하고 볼륨감이 있는 느낌 ..저도 몇가지의 스피커로 3~4가지 중에서 고민 중인데 비교가 됩니다..저도 구입할 때 참고 하겠습니다..
50은 보컬은 좋은데 베이스가 뭉치는것 같고 300은 베이스 하고 잔음이 좋은반면 보컬은 조금퍼지는 느낌
현악기소리는 50 좋네요
300은 현악기가 약간뭉치는 느낌 이네요
정확한 해석입니다!
저도 둘의 차이를 모르겠는데요. 컴퓨터에서 소리가 나와서 그럴까요?
네, 아마도 그럴겁니다.
Ok I cannot afford either speaker, most probably I can afford......hmmmmmm....the Silver 500 and it is stretching my dollar to the Max.
다인 오디오 좀 탁하게 느껴지네요.
모니터오디오가 상대적으로 밝고 쨍한 음색이다 보니 비교할 때 좀 그렇게 들릴 수도 있다고 봅니다.
모오는 앞에 뭔가 막이 씌워진 느낌, 탁해요
역시 다인
미국에선 모니터 오디오 gold 300이 evoke 50보다 300만원이나 더 비싼데 한국에선 가격이 비슷한가보죠 ?
국내 실 구매 가격은 거의 비슷하여 비교도 많이 하고 구매를 하세요.
DYNAUDIO hologram is better.
Vocal so much better on MA
Fully agree, with MA it feels like the singer is in a room, while with Dyns it still sounds like a record.
가격대를 비교하면 우열을 가리기 힘드나
듣는이의 성향에 의해 차이가 날듯 하군요.
이보크가 중.저음이 좀더 명료한 소리를 내어주는것 같고. 고음은 명징함이 좀더 센듯 합니다.
진공관 앰프를 물리면 지금과 다른 소리를 들려줄듯 합니다.
가성비 대비 모니터골드가 우세함.
The winner is Tannoy.
Thank you
Dynaudio
Dynaudyo
EVOK 50
As your taste!
내귀엔 eboKe 승
편견. 모니터오디오도 상위버젼은 좋구먼.. 다인에 대한 환상이 있는듯
이보크 승
dynaudio 승