I added chapters for easier viewing: 0:00 What’s new in Osmo Action 4 against Osmo Action 3 0:48 Low Light Comparison in Real-World 1:13 Low Light Comparison in Controlled Environment 1:52 Bright Light Comparison in Controlled Environment 2:09 High, Medium and Low Sharpness Level differences 2:21 Adding Sharpness in post vs High Sharpness 2:32 Action 3 vs Action 4 auto ISO difference in the same light 2:50 The Difference Removing Lens Protector Makes 3:21 Fake Goodbye 3:32 Shot On Osmo Action 4 4:23 Unboxing DJI Osmo Action 4 Adventure Combo 5:21 Physical Comparison to Osmo Action 3 5:55 The new 1/1.3” CMOS Sensor compared to 1/1.7” CMOS Sensor 6:30 Minimum Focus Distance Compared to Action 3 6:48 FOV and photo resolution difference 7:13 10-Bit 4:2:0, D-Log M, HDR Mode Differences 8:21 D-Log M on Action 4 vs D-Cinelike on Action 3 10:05 Digital Zoom comparison 10:26 Back and Front Screen 10:41 App Connection Speed and Reliability 11:19 Monitoring limitations while recording in 4K120 11:54 Monitoring while recording at and below 4K60 12:05 GoPro Can’t Monitor On The Phone While Recording Due To Copyright 12:20 Stabilization: Rocksteady, Rocksteady+, HorizonBalancing, HorizonSteady 13:38 Shot On Osmo Action 4 13:57 Microphone Comparison Between Action 4 and 3 (Ungraded Flat Footage) 15:16 Start-up Speed 15:33 Mount Improvements 16:02 Accessories - Wrist Strap 16:32 Accessories - Backpack Strap Mount 16:38 Accessories - Hanging Neck Mount 16:44 Accessories - Mounting Kit 16:47 Accessories - ND Filters Set 17:04 Overheating and Battery Life Compared to Action 3 18:54 My Wishlist, Things That Need Attention and Fine Tuning 20:05 Little Differences I Discovered 20:34 My Conclusion 20:51 Thank You For Watching
@@iPhonedo You have a great many fans who appreciate the time, effort, entertainment, and information you put into your videos. Each is a high quality production. Cheers mate
Instant subscribe, out of probably 100 videos I've watched on various action cams in the last week you're by far the most knowledgeable and professional. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Great review. Gotta say when you used your One Wheel doing Audio test flippin back and forth between Action 3 and 4. The Action 3 footage looked much more properly exposed in Every shot and the Action 4 footage looked Really Underexposed by 1-2 stops on Every Clip. Was Surprised. I much prefer the Proper Exposure on Action 3
I think he was on the wrong settings during that part of the shoot, probably in D-log , or its Just a Firmware issue, this review came out on launch day, action 4 uses a different sensor, it will improve with updates, Action 3 did the same
Never buying another DJI product after Osmo Action 3 blurry focus issue, DJI lied and stayed silent, its still bad even after update, you can still see the out of focus issue in this comparison. I don't trust them anymore. If anything they should compensate people that got burnt on Action 3, with a Action 4 discount.
There wasn't a blurry focus issue, I'm pretty sure people were just holding it within minimum focusing distance. Action cameras do not have focus motors or moving lenses, they can't focus. Their lenses are fixed at infinity focus and glued in place. Check the background of any of those reviewers who said they had issues, they're all super sharp like a chinese smartphone.
Thank you for mentioning file splitting! This is a deal-breaker to me as I record long videos. You saved me from buying a camera that does not fit my purposes :)
Agreed, I own ALL the Action and Pocket Products and have fully filed them in the [virtual] trash for the 4 GB File split. And I had to watch 100+ reviews to see iPhonedo answer that on video 101. A TRUE deal breaker. I am hoping iPhonedo can get an answer from DJI if they will firmware update Action 3 for 16 GB limit. Or, if they say now, if he can MAKE them update firmware for their loyal customers like us. But, LESS loyal now, until DJI steps to the plate with this CRITICAL Action 3 Firmware update. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed Vloggers ]
@@iamnotapoet it is probably to prevent the sdcard (and thereby the camera) from overheating and crashing while shooting for extended periods of time. I have major overheating problems with GoPros and I would gladly go to the Action 4 camera if that was the case. I dont live in a cold environment, in summer where I live, it gets anywhere from 30 to 45 degrees C (86 to 113 F). Not ideal for any camera, I know. But hey, gotta still shoot life ?
@@pcislocked DJI action 4 proves that they CAN and SHOULD fix 4gb file size splits. Otherwise they would not have done the work to make the Action 4 split at 16gb (acceptable split size). But I can NOT forgive or forget that DJI has EXPLICITLY said they will NOT work on fixing the issues on the DJI ACTION 3 in Firmware. They CAN but they WON’T . I have had numerous emails with them that have been escalated. No dice. I have given DJI over $5,000 in the past few years. And have purchased EVERY “Action” and “Pocket” product. But I had switched entirely to Insta360. They listen to and support there customers. DJI does not. And it’s not because they CAN’T. It’s because the WON’T! They want me to give them ANOTHER $400+ just 11 months after I gave them $500+ for Action 3 that is unusable (for me). DJI is dead to me and my clients. Long live @Insta360. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed Vloggers ] …. Now BEER 🍺 VLOGGERS
In the audio comparison tests - the Action 3 video looked much better (the sound was obviously not as good) - was that settings? or is the Action 4 worse for basic selfie mode? BTW, I liked the beard as a thing - but you do look better now 😅
Thanks for a great video Faruk. Firstly, the shorter beard looks 👍 great - comfort first! The details in your video are super helpful to me. Have you had any luck in lower light situations? If so, do you have any recommended settings or tips? I have heard a variety of things about whether to use stabilization or not, etc. Excellent pacing and great clarity, along with just enough quirky humor, made this a great video to watch. All the best to you, Bob
Hiya …!!!... Thank you once more for a very informative video . I have always used gopro ,till they stop the LiveView while recording issue that you mentioned which is why I am considering the Action 4 …waiting for new gopro 12 specs ..!!!that will be my real issue for not purchasing the gopro 12 . So many thanks for mentioning this very underrated function of Action 4 . I am monitoring the growth of some fowl´s with live video and recording at the same time …mostly at tree level distance. I did ask to Gopro themselves , a while back , about the reasons for taking this function away …and their reply is not the one you mentioned , since they did won the Court case for infringements rights issues . You can check it out - Wikipedia.- It turns out ,in their reply to me ,that the reason for not TX live video while recording in 4K is that the Gopro quite simply “ will burn to cinders “ …or something to that effect. Keep up the good work and thanks again ..!!! Cheeeerrrsss..!!!
I just got my Action 4, but I couldn’t find noise reduction and sharpness adjustment at all!!! They’re not included in the factory firmware, and I’m not sure if it there is an update for this. If I activated it, then found there’s no update for these settings or the update doesn’t meet my requirement, then I couldn’t get the refund at all, this is not the right way to sell a product, hope you can contact DJI and let them do this better, update the factory firmware to include all the features you guys are promoting.
Öncelikle elinize sağlık, her zamanki gibi özenli ve bilgi dolu bir video olmuş. Videonuzu izlerken bazı bilgiler dikkatimden kaçmış olabilir fakat Action 3 ile yan yana karşılaştırmalarda Action 4’te görüntünün çok daha karanlık olduğunu farkettim. Bunun sebebi nedir?
As usual the best video around… in fact, the best reviewer period. Blessings from London UK. On the camera note, I’ve never considered Osmo action cameras for one reason… no HDMI 🤷🏻♂️
According to DJI specs, the sensor is different to the one in Mini 3 Pro. This one has 10 megapixel (3648x2736) 4:3 non quad bayer sensor. For video - this one is probably actually superior.
@@iPhonedo The Action 3 probably has a quad bayer sensor, but wasn't advertised as such because they couldn't get the 48 megapixel stills pipeline working (just speculating, please correct me with sources if I am wrong). But the so called "HDR" video is directly attributed to quad bayer sensors, because you have split pixels you can do different exposures and some form of fusion in real time (roughly speaking). So, if the action 4 had a quad bayer - it would definitely have the gimmicky HDR video mode (as opposed to getting it removed). It does not, because a regular sensor probably can't keep up making different exposure for different frames, BUT less pixels and non quad bayer structure means overall better readout and better dynamic range anyway (which ,I for example, prefer). If anyone with more solid info is reading this - please correct me. All news sites are also saying its the same sensor as mini 3 pro, non pro and etc, but most of them are garbage. Question is why does the photo resolution is not 4000x3000 then, or even 48 megapixel without debayering all the while the imaging pipeline is capable of 4k120 if its the same sensor. Is the photo mode cropping in? Is the fov of the photo mode different than the widest video mode? Do raw photos contain more pixels but a really aggressive correction file that crops in? Now I am just confused. If I had the camera, maybe I could answer this, because quad bayer sensors sometimes have a particular pattern with fine detail and noise.
@@kaimelis I like your comment, it is a great discussion. Action 3's 1/1.7-inch CMOS sensor has the photosite size of 1.6µm. If that sensor had quad-bayer filter array I don't think it would have limited FPS in HDR mode. I believe A3 shoots in double exposure, double frame rate in "HDR" mode and that is why it is limited to 30, because in the background it is shooting 60 or higher frames per second with alternating exposures and combines them into one frame, like iPhone X or some Insta360 cameras do. Action 4's 1/1.3-inch CMOS sensor has the exact same photosite size with Mini 3 Pro which is 2.4µm. However, I'm guessing due to space restrictions and the difficulties of making a 155°FOV lens work on an action camera with that kind of sensor (compared to a drone) the effective MP may be 10MP. A4 doesn't switch between lowlight mode and regular mode once you start recording, I believe that is because in a lot of light it shoots in 48MP mode (40MP due to the effective area) and once you're indoors it takes advantage of the combined quad-bayer photosites and that's why it performs so well in low light.
@@iPhonedo Great discussion for us camera nerds who review things :P Photosite sizes are often just derivatives of people dividing the sensor dimensions by the amount of pixels. Unless the spec comes from the manufacturer of the sensor directly, you can not trust which size it is referring to - the quarter of a split pixel or the entire site of four pixels. I have seen this lax approach too many times. I think the double exposure is enabled by the quad bayer nature of the sensor, it is double exposure, but not "true" double exposure of all pixels. Usually for these modes camera gathers different exposure info from different pixels at "almost" the same time. Two consecutive exposures would be too slow for what readout speed the sensor has, and the fusion is done on the sensor chip itself - not later in the imaging pipeline . That's why you can sort of call it "HDR" but see barely any artifacts in many cases. I believe every quad bayer smartphone ever works in the same manner with their so called HDR modes - and nowadays 99 percent of the smartphone main camera sensors are quad bayers. I think same applies to the A3. I reckon DJI Avata has the same sensor as A3, and it is clearly stated as 48 quad bayer while it also does not do 48mpix stills. The image is very similar from both as well. I thought so as well, that not the entire sensor may be used in the Action 4, but: marketing would have jumped at the opportunity to state maximum photo size at 7296x5472 and call it 40 megapixels and not 10. Regarding the low light thing, a quad bayer sensors do not mean worse or better low light performance and the different debayering process matters little. The overall light gathering capability of the sensor and lens combination is the same - whether the each pixel is split in 4 or not. Technically quad bayer sensors gather less light because there are micro gaps between the individual photosites. Combining them may reduce noise in some cases or increase per pixel detail, but that happens no matter the lighting conditions - a quad bayer camera will always shoot video with on-chip debayering (happens on the sensor - not later in the pipeline), the only way to get 48 megapixels is to take raw photos with that specific mode enabled. When it is - the readout speed drops hard and the entire pipeline is bogged down with more data, like the Mini 3 Pro (Mini 3 has the same sensor, but the mode is disabled). So on A4 it may be a 12 megapixel sensor of which 10 are effective, if it is quad bayer one - it operates with on chip debayering always enabled, even for raw photos. It would make sense, because it was the same approach with older A3 which had the 1/1.7 quad bayer unit but also never could output 48 megapixel stills, like the Avata. And here I was thinking they used a video focused true 10 megapixel sensor. But none of that matter is it just good anyway.
Hi, always love your reviews! Would you be able to tell me if you have seen any difference in brightness of the displays between OA3 and OA4? My copy of OA4 is much darker than OA3, and I am wondering if it is normal. Thanks.
I like the undrwater colour sensor on the A4, and sharpness selection: about time! Definately interested in this, but will wait to see what GoPro respond with.
I bought the original Dji Action after watching your review of the Rocksteady capabilities now im considering a upgrade for low light, wider angle, better colors, longer lasting battery e.t.c. so im back
Hi, why didn't you review the air3? How can we know now "if it's any good?" Seriously, your review was the one I was looking forward the most... greets from Austria, RCSchim
Osmo Action 3 looks wayy more better then OA4. Thanks for the great review. I was going to buy 4 but now I’ve decided to buy 3. Cheaper and better. I’m glad to watched your review.
Hi Faruk, What happened at 14:10? The picture looks washed out! at 13:58 you look much clearer... In your opinion if you have a 3rd Gen is it worth up-dating? Thanks for the video.
I did not grade the footage on purpose, but I forgot to put a note on the screen. I didn't grade to show how flat profiles (D-Cinelike vs D-Log M) compare as well.
With D-LOG you still have the same bitrate as with normal mode? So with D-LOG you use a part av that bitrate to capture highlights and shadows that you might crush later in post when you add contrast. So I'm thinking recording in normal mode and get the colors and contrast right could give the best quality? Has anyone tested this?
Great video. You covered almost everything I wanted to know except one thing ... how does it perform with an external microphone? Dongle? Sound? That is *very* important to my use case as I use this for moto vlogging and one of the *main* reasons I like the GoPro Hero 11 Black is the sound quality even with the dumb dongles. I also have Insta360 ONE RS and the sound is not as good with that, even though the video quality is good. So, my primary Action Cam is the Hero 11 Black but it is not trustworthy with the mysterious odd lockup due to whatever (not overheating!).
Hey there. I'm considering buying a new action camera (OSMO ACTION 3 or 4). I want to use it for MotoVlogging. I currently own an AKASO Brave6+. The sound is pretty good and very easy (USB-C Lavalier mike =$15). It plugs straight in. Obviously, the image is very average and I'm wanting to improve the images for my youtube channel dramatically. Just purchased a Sony FDRX3000 for next to nothing, brand new - pretty easy to sort the sound on that (Has a 3.5mm jack). BUT, it has its own challenges in regards to helmet mounting. SO, I'm considering the OSMO ACTION 3 or 4. Here's my question. Is there any way to get audio out of the 3 or 4, without using an annoying dongle (That will probably cause faults and lots of crackles), OR the incredibly expensive (albeit very good) Wireless mike? Is there a good USBC Lavalier mike that plugs straight into the camera? This is a deal-breaker issue. Any help would be appreciated. There must be an option (unless DJI has designed the port to be strictly proprietary). I've searched TH-cam, but there appear to not be any good options. My next option is the original OSMO ACTION 1 (Still considered a MotoVlogging weapon). It is very easy to sort the sound on - BUT, where can I find a new, or near new one? My other option is the INSTA360RS 4k. Also needs a dongle/Audio adapter (But it is cheap and allows you to plug in any 3.5mm mike jack). This isn't my preferred option, as the picture quality is a step up from the AKASO, but not quite on par with the OSMO ACTION (Especially the 4). LONG QUESTION I KNOW - APOLOGIES. BEST REGARDS Campbell Rousselle
How did you get the top down unboxing to have rgb on the surface, but not have the light bleed onto the product or your hand? Always love the cinematography
Nice overview! I haven't seen anyone with access to the camera look into the UVC webcam mode so far. If you still have it and can spare the time, can it have stabilization on in that mode? The previous camera had that feature added through firmware but doesn't offer stabilization. This combination of UVC and stabilization could be useful in IRL streaming backpack situations.
Hello, great video! I have a question. I’ve been using Osmo Action 3 to record 4K videos, but the video automatically splits after some short period of recording time. I am wondering if this issue was finally solved in the new camera? Thank you and keep on filming! ;)
There is one thing that I don't like about this action camera is the still image resolution, 10 MP. Gopro 11 hero Balck's sensor resolution is 27 MP. DJI should be at par with GoPro. However, Action 4 is way far better than GoPro in other featuures, in my opinion. It's just it can't beat the image resolution level.
I am interested to buy "DJI OSMO ACTION 4 ADVENTURE COMBO" after I saw your video but I want to know first if I can use live stream or other video on youtube and other social media by "DJI OSMO ACTION 4 ADVENTURE COMBO"
I was still team GoPro prior to seeing your video of Action 4. Other tech reviewers of Action 4 disappointed me in their reviews but you made me switch. I wish DJI to take action for other reviewers who obviously doesn't know how to use the product and dismay the viewer in buying their product. Btw, GoPro still wins for ease of use even with bad UI. But Action 4 is better is the user is knowledgeable
You've done great job doing this review. But why HDR is such a garbage comparing to tiny iphone camera? I haven't seen this killed highlights for quite some time already, aaaaand here we go again with yet another action camera. Killed blown hightlights. Wow.
Hey, AFAIK he referred to standards like HDR10 or Dolby Vision. The video will try to hold the wides dynamic range, but you will not get peak brightness and darkness on a HDR display. Hope this makes sense
My my its been many years i stop diving with my gopro hero 4 and 5. I have always been watching ur channel back then and enjoyed so much u teasing Nick Woodman😂. You put on weight like 5 to 7 kg it seems yah ?, compared to 6-7 years ago and we are indeed aging...LOL. Great that utube algo brought ur channel to my attention again.
What do I do for zooming in on my kids during family vacations, theme parks, beach days, school events, and sports? Is there a camcorder/action camera anything in 2023 with this capability and image quality? I don’t want to pack a mirrorless everywhere we go.
Funny how all those TH-cam reviewers-you included, does a “low light test” in a place where there is ALWAYS light, not only-its an open space. Tunnel 😂 Wow. You fooled us 😮🤮 Ridiculous
the old Sony 3000 crap camera with no sound capability if it was in it's housing? No stability, color science from hell, etc? The old Contour cameras blew the Sony out of the water but they couldn't market worth a damn. Solid meta housing, glass lenses, GPS built in, great battery life, native waterproofing without a housing, etc. Just bad marketing
Honestly I am not liking the Osmo 4 footage. It seems quiet washed out and under-exposed. Specially your comparison with Osmo 3. In your editing, I didnt care about the skies being blown out where at least you were properly exposed.
![[UNCUT] The Loyal Pin ปิ่นภักดิ์ EP.6 (1/4)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m05kZ2GDKXg/mqdefault.jpg)
I added chapters for easier viewing:
0:00 What’s new in Osmo Action 4 against Osmo Action 3
0:48 Low Light Comparison in Real-World
1:13 Low Light Comparison in Controlled Environment
1:52 Bright Light Comparison in Controlled Environment
2:09 High, Medium and Low Sharpness Level differences
2:21 Adding Sharpness in post vs High Sharpness
2:32 Action 3 vs Action 4 auto ISO difference in the same light
2:50 The Difference Removing Lens Protector Makes
3:21 Fake Goodbye
3:32 Shot On Osmo Action 4
4:23 Unboxing DJI Osmo Action 4 Adventure Combo
5:21 Physical Comparison to Osmo Action 3
5:55 The new 1/1.3” CMOS Sensor compared to 1/1.7” CMOS Sensor
6:30 Minimum Focus Distance Compared to Action 3
6:48 FOV and photo resolution difference
7:13 10-Bit 4:2:0, D-Log M, HDR Mode Differences
8:21 D-Log M on Action 4 vs D-Cinelike on Action 3
10:05 Digital Zoom comparison
10:26 Back and Front Screen
10:41 App Connection Speed and Reliability
11:19 Monitoring limitations while recording in 4K120
11:54 Monitoring while recording at and below 4K60
12:05 GoPro Can’t Monitor On The Phone While Recording Due To Copyright
12:20 Stabilization: Rocksteady, Rocksteady+, HorizonBalancing, HorizonSteady
13:38 Shot On Osmo Action 4
13:57 Microphone Comparison Between Action 4 and 3 (Ungraded Flat Footage)
15:16 Start-up Speed
15:33 Mount Improvements
16:02 Accessories - Wrist Strap
16:32 Accessories - Backpack Strap Mount
16:38 Accessories - Hanging Neck Mount
16:44 Accessories - Mounting Kit
16:47 Accessories - ND Filters Set
17:04 Overheating and Battery Life Compared to Action 3
18:54 My Wishlist, Things That Need Attention and Fine Tuning
20:05 Little Differences I Discovered
20:34 My Conclusion
20:51 Thank You For Watching
Your reviews are seriously underrated. Some of the most useful reviews I’ve found.
This means so much to me, thank you!
@@iPhonedo You have a great many fans who appreciate the time, effort, entertainment, and information you put into your videos. Each is a high quality production. Cheers mate
Instant subscribe, out of probably 100 videos I've watched on various action cams in the last week you're by far the most knowledgeable and professional. Thank you for sharing your experience!
No mater how many reviews out there for OA4. I will always watch iphonedo and decide if i’ll buy it or not. Iphonedo’s reviews is ❤
This is so nice to hear! Thank you for your kind words!
@@iPhonedo your reviews are very unique sir! Really thankful your channel exists
Great review. Gotta say when you used your One Wheel doing Audio test flippin back and forth between Action 3 and 4. The Action 3 footage looked much more properly exposed in Every shot and the Action 4 footage looked Really Underexposed by 1-2 stops on Every Clip. Was Surprised. I much prefer the Proper Exposure on Action 3
I think he was on the wrong settings during that part of the shoot, probably in D-log , or its Just a Firmware issue, this review came out on launch day, action 4 uses a different sensor, it will improve with updates, Action 3 did the same
Never buying another DJI product after Osmo Action 3 blurry focus issue, DJI lied and stayed silent, its still bad even after update, you can still see the out of focus issue in this comparison. I don't trust them anymore. If anything they should compensate people that got burnt on Action 3, with a Action 4 discount.
Glad I didn't buy one. I still have the Action 1 and I have never used it.
here is a trick. the original osmo pocket and action 2 are the most superior Dji products. none of which im sure you own...
There wasn't a blurry focus issue, I'm pretty sure people were just holding it within minimum focusing distance. Action cameras do not have focus motors or moving lenses, they can't focus. Their lenses are fixed at infinity focus and glued in place. Check the background of any of those reviewers who said they had issues, they're all super sharp like a chinese smartphone.
Thank you for mentioning file splitting! This is a deal-breaker to me as I record long videos. You saved me from buying a camera that does not fit my purposes :)
Agreed, I own ALL the Action and Pocket Products and have fully filed them in the [virtual] trash for the 4 GB File split. And I had to watch 100+ reviews to see iPhonedo answer that on video 101. A TRUE deal breaker. I am hoping iPhonedo can get an answer from DJI if they will firmware update Action 3 for 16 GB limit. Or, if they say now, if he can MAKE them update firmware for their loyal customers like us. But, LESS loyal now, until DJI steps to the plate with this CRITICAL Action 3 Firmware update. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed Vloggers ]
@@iamnotapoet it is probably to prevent the sdcard (and thereby the camera) from overheating and crashing while shooting for extended periods of time. I have major overheating problems with GoPros and I would gladly go to the Action 4 camera if that was the case. I dont live in a cold environment, in summer where I live, it gets anywhere from 30 to 45 degrees C (86 to 113 F). Not ideal for any camera, I know. But hey, gotta still shoot life ?
@@TheMediacenterpc I don't see how file splitting would effect heat. It's not the the recorder stops it's continuous.
fat32 file size limit is 4gb. so maybe that's that idk
@@pcislocked DJI action 4 proves that they CAN and SHOULD fix 4gb file size splits. Otherwise they would not have done the work to make the Action 4 split at 16gb (acceptable split size). But I can NOT forgive or forget that DJI has EXPLICITLY said they will NOT work on fixing the issues on the DJI ACTION 3 in Firmware. They CAN but they WON’T . I have had numerous emails with them that have been escalated. No dice. I have given DJI over $5,000 in the past few years. And have purchased EVERY “Action” and “Pocket” product. But I had switched entirely to Insta360. They listen to and support there customers. DJI does not. And it’s not because they CAN’T. It’s because the WON’T! They want me to give them ANOTHER $400+ just 11 months after I gave them $500+ for Action 3 that is unusable (for me). DJI is dead to me and my clients. Long live @Insta360. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed Vloggers ] …. Now BEER 🍺 VLOGGERS
In the audio comparison tests - the Action 3 video looked much better (the sound was obviously not as good) - was that settings? or is the Action 4 worse for basic selfie mode? BTW, I liked the beard as a thing - but you do look better now 😅
You are the only one pointing out the mount being more stable! I loved those details in your videos, very useful!
looking fresh with the beard trim, my friend :)
Thank you so much, I feel so much better!
Thanks for a great video Faruk. Firstly, the shorter beard looks 👍 great - comfort first! The details in your video are super helpful to me. Have you had any luck in lower light situations? If so, do you have any recommended settings or tips? I have heard a variety of things about whether to use stabilization or not, etc. Excellent pacing and great clarity, along with just enough quirky humor, made this a great video to watch. All the best to you, Bob
First review that wasn't compressed alot! Really impressed with the footage and your review! Thank you!
Hiya …!!!...
Thank you once more for a very informative video .
I have always used gopro ,till they stop the LiveView while recording issue that you mentioned which is why I am considering the Action 4 …waiting for new gopro 12 specs ..!!!that will be my real issue for not purchasing the gopro 12 .
So many thanks for mentioning this very underrated function of Action 4 .
I am monitoring the growth of some fowl´s with live video and recording at the same time …mostly at tree level distance.
I did ask to Gopro themselves , a while back , about the reasons for taking this function away …and their reply is not the one you mentioned , since they did won the Court case for infringements rights issues . You can check it out - Wikipedia.-
It turns out ,in their reply to me ,that the reason for not TX live video while recording in 4K is that the Gopro quite simply “ will burn to cinders “ …or something to that effect.
Keep up the good work and thanks again ..!!!
Cheeeerrrsss..!!!
I just got my Action 4, but I couldn’t find noise reduction and sharpness adjustment at all!!! They’re not included in the factory firmware, and I’m not sure if it there is an update for this. If I activated it, then found there’s no update for these settings or the update doesn’t meet my requirement, then I couldn’t get the refund at all, this is not the right way to sell a product, hope you can contact DJI and let them do this better, update the factory firmware to include all the features you guys are promoting.
Quality looks very very good!
Öncelikle elinize sağlık, her zamanki gibi özenli ve bilgi dolu bir video olmuş. Videonuzu izlerken bazı bilgiler dikkatimden kaçmış olabilir fakat Action 3 ile yan yana karşılaştırmalarda Action 4’te görüntünün çok daha karanlık olduğunu farkettim. Bunun sebebi nedir?
Best review I’ve seen so far! Thank you.
i just bought the oa4, tnx to all the reviews of the youtubers 😅
As usual the best video around… in fact, the best reviewer period. Blessings from London UK.
On the camera note, I’ve never considered Osmo action cameras for one reason… no HDMI 🤷🏻♂️
tests are always 🔥🔥🔥🔥
what chargers do you recommend for the osmo action4 battery pack? my samsung 25w charher wont work
Great video make comparison with New Go Pro in detailed ❤
I heard the rumors, I'm waiting! :)
@@iPhonedo wow
Thank you for depth look on the A4, waiting mine to arrived
According to DJI specs, the sensor is different to the one in Mini 3 Pro. This one has 10 megapixel (3648x2736) 4:3 non quad bayer sensor. For video - this one is probably actually superior.
Also you got that HDR thing backwards as well...
@@kaimelis HDR thing backwards? How so?
@@iPhonedo The Action 3 probably has a quad bayer sensor, but wasn't advertised as such because they couldn't get the 48 megapixel stills pipeline working (just speculating, please correct me with sources if I am wrong). But the so called "HDR" video is directly attributed to quad bayer sensors, because you have split pixels you can do different exposures and some form of fusion in real time (roughly speaking). So, if the action 4 had a quad bayer - it would definitely have the gimmicky HDR video mode (as opposed to getting it removed). It does not, because a regular sensor probably can't keep up making different exposure for different frames, BUT less pixels and non quad bayer structure means overall better readout and better dynamic range anyway (which ,I for example, prefer).
If anyone with more solid info is reading this - please correct me. All news sites are also saying its the same sensor as mini 3 pro, non pro and etc, but most of them are garbage. Question is why does the photo resolution is not 4000x3000 then, or even 48 megapixel without debayering all the while the imaging pipeline is capable of 4k120 if its the same sensor. Is the photo mode cropping in? Is the fov of the photo mode different than the widest video mode? Do raw photos contain more pixels but a really aggressive correction file that crops in?
Now I am just confused. If I had the camera, maybe I could answer this, because quad bayer sensors sometimes have a particular pattern with fine detail and noise.
@@kaimelis I like your comment, it is a great discussion.
Action 3's 1/1.7-inch CMOS sensor has the photosite size of 1.6µm. If that sensor had quad-bayer filter array I don't think it would have limited FPS in HDR mode. I believe A3 shoots in double exposure, double frame rate in "HDR" mode and that is why it is limited to 30, because in the background it is shooting 60 or higher frames per second with alternating exposures and combines them into one frame, like iPhone X or some Insta360 cameras do.
Action 4's 1/1.3-inch CMOS sensor has the exact same photosite size with Mini 3 Pro which is 2.4µm. However, I'm guessing due to space restrictions and the difficulties of making a 155°FOV lens work on an action camera with that kind of sensor (compared to a drone) the effective MP may be 10MP. A4 doesn't switch between lowlight mode and regular mode once you start recording, I believe that is because in a lot of light it shoots in 48MP mode (40MP due to the effective area) and once you're indoors it takes advantage of the combined quad-bayer photosites and that's why it performs so well in low light.
@@iPhonedo Great discussion for us camera nerds who review things :P
Photosite sizes are often just derivatives of people dividing the sensor dimensions by the amount of pixels. Unless the spec comes from the manufacturer of the sensor directly, you can not trust which size it is referring to - the quarter of a split pixel or the entire site of four pixels. I have seen this lax approach too many times.
I think the double exposure is enabled by the quad bayer nature of the sensor, it is double exposure, but not "true" double exposure of all pixels. Usually for these modes camera gathers different exposure info from different pixels at "almost" the same time. Two consecutive exposures would be too slow for what readout speed the sensor has, and the fusion is done on the sensor chip itself - not later in the imaging pipeline . That's why you can sort of call it "HDR" but see barely any artifacts in many cases. I believe every quad bayer smartphone ever works in the same manner with their so called HDR modes - and nowadays 99 percent of the smartphone main camera sensors are quad bayers. I think same applies to the A3. I reckon DJI Avata has the same sensor as A3, and it is clearly stated as 48 quad bayer while it also does not do 48mpix stills. The image is very similar from both as well.
I thought so as well, that not the entire sensor may be used in the Action 4, but: marketing would have jumped at the opportunity to state maximum photo size at 7296x5472 and call it 40 megapixels and not 10.
Regarding the low light thing, a quad bayer sensors do not mean worse or better low light performance and the different debayering process matters little. The overall light gathering capability of the sensor and lens combination is the same - whether the each pixel is split in 4 or not. Technically quad bayer sensors gather less light because there are micro gaps between the individual photosites. Combining them may reduce noise in some cases or increase per pixel detail, but that happens no matter the lighting conditions - a quad bayer camera will always shoot video with on-chip debayering (happens on the sensor - not later in the pipeline), the only way to get 48 megapixels is to take raw photos with that specific mode enabled. When it is - the readout speed drops hard and the entire pipeline is bogged down with more data, like the Mini 3 Pro (Mini 3 has the same sensor, but the mode is disabled).
So on A4 it may be a 12 megapixel sensor of which 10 are effective, if it is quad bayer one - it operates with on chip debayering always enabled, even for raw photos. It would make sense, because it was the same approach with older A3 which had the 1/1.7 quad bayer unit but also never could output 48 megapixel stills, like the Avata. And here I was thinking they used a video focused true 10 megapixel sensor. But none of that matter is it just good anyway.
'makes it a grower' Hilarious!
The jokes wrote themselves :)
Hi, always love your reviews! Would you be able to tell me if you have seen any difference in brightness of the displays between OA3 and OA4? My copy of OA4 is much darker than OA3, and I am wondering if it is normal. Thanks.
I just bought the osmo action 4. So far i like it. Comming from gopro silver 4. Took me almosyba decade to upgrade
Lol, same. I have sony fdr x3000 from 2018, still works great and like a brick quality. But I need the display tho, front and back 😂
Thx, time to upgrade, Have nice day. 🎉🎉🎉
great review has always 🤟
I like the undrwater colour sensor on the A4, and sharpness selection: about time! Definately interested in this, but will wait to see what GoPro respond with.
You look much better now :) oh and great review too im loving my Osmo Action 4
I bought the original Dji Action after watching your review of the Rocksteady capabilities
now im considering a upgrade for low light, wider angle, better colors, longer lasting battery e.t.c. so im back
Hi, why didn't you review the air3? How can we know now "if it's any good?"
Seriously, your review was the one I was looking forward the most... greets from Austria, RCSchim
It is coming next week :)
@@iPhonedo thanks for even answering and then in a good way too. Since my drone takes some more weeks? your review will still be in time ;)
MUCH improved without the beard. Oh, and the camera is ok too.
It is good to be back :)
Best review ever on youtube
do you use positive grid ? I didn't see any your review about it :) ?
The beard is great! The video as well! Thanks a lot Faruk! :)
sakala bayıldım, iyice dede gibi olmuştu. böyle süper
Any chance you will do a comparison between GoPro Hero 12 and the Action 4? I am looking to upgrade and I am torn between the two.
Osmo Action 3 looks wayy more better then OA4. Thanks for the great review. I was going to buy 4 but now I’ve decided to buy 3. Cheaper and better. I’m glad to watched your review.
Hi Faruk, What happened at 14:10? The picture looks washed out! at 13:58 you look much clearer... In your opinion if you have a 3rd Gen is it worth up-dating? Thanks for the video.
I did not grade the footage on purpose, but I forgot to put a note on the screen. I didn't grade to show how flat profiles (D-Cinelike vs D-Log M) compare as well.
This is way more comprehensive than any other review! Shame on the algorithm!
Dude! Where’s the Dji Air 3?! Don’t tell me Dji didn’t send you one.
With D-LOG you still have the same bitrate as with normal mode? So with D-LOG you use a part av that bitrate to capture highlights and shadows that you might crush later in post when you add contrast. So I'm thinking recording in normal mode and get the colors and contrast right could give the best quality? Has anyone tested this?
Great video. You covered almost everything I wanted to know except one thing ... how does it perform with an external microphone? Dongle? Sound?
That is *very* important to my use case as I use this for moto vlogging and one of the *main* reasons I like the GoPro Hero 11 Black is the sound quality even with the dumb dongles. I also have Insta360 ONE RS and the sound is not as good with that, even though the video quality is good. So, my primary Action Cam is the Hero 11 Black but it is not trustworthy with the mysterious odd lockup due to whatever (not overheating!).
This is the video I wanted. A comparison between 3 and 4. I don't care about GoPro comparison at the point
Why? Action 4 is inferior to the Hero11. Hero12 will kill it.
Hey there. I'm considering buying a new action camera (OSMO ACTION 3 or 4). I want to use it for MotoVlogging.
I currently own an AKASO Brave6+. The sound is pretty good and very easy (USB-C Lavalier mike =$15). It plugs straight in. Obviously, the image is very average and I'm wanting to improve the images for my youtube channel dramatically. Just purchased a Sony FDRX3000 for next to nothing, brand new - pretty easy to sort the sound on that (Has a 3.5mm jack). BUT, it has its own challenges in regards to helmet mounting.
SO, I'm considering the OSMO ACTION 3 or 4.
Here's my question. Is there any way to get audio out of the 3 or 4, without using an annoying dongle (That will probably cause faults and lots of crackles), OR the incredibly expensive (albeit very good) Wireless mike? Is there a good USBC Lavalier mike that plugs straight into the camera?
This is a deal-breaker issue. Any help would be appreciated. There must be an option (unless DJI has designed the port to be strictly proprietary). I've searched TH-cam, but there appear to not be any good options.
My next option is the original OSMO ACTION 1 (Still considered a MotoVlogging weapon). It is very easy to sort the sound on - BUT, where can I find a new, or near new one?
My other option is the INSTA360RS 4k. Also needs a dongle/Audio adapter (But it is cheap and allows you to plug in any 3.5mm mike jack). This isn't my preferred option, as the picture quality is a step up from the AKASO, but not quite on par with the OSMO ACTION (Especially the 4).
LONG QUESTION I KNOW - APOLOGIES.
BEST REGARDS
Campbell Rousselle
Great video as always
Want to use an action camera for filmmaking, should I cop this or wait on the GoPro12 ?
go pro info now leaked. i think go pro getting scared
How did you get the top down unboxing to have rgb on the surface, but not have the light bleed onto the product or your hand? Always love the cinematography
You made my day. I love that you realized it, I use grids.
Better low light and audio is always a plus.
Always my favourite reviews! Question does hero 11 have the horizon leveling feature?
Hero 9 & 10 have it also.
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
Nice overview! I haven't seen anyone with access to the camera look into the UVC webcam mode so far. If you still have it and can spare the time, can it have stabilization on in that mode? The previous camera had that feature added through firmware but doesn't offer stabilization. This combination of UVC and stabilization could be useful in IRL streaming backpack situations.
One of the best review ❤
Greats as always! And you look great with the big beard, the same as I discovered for myself. Bigger is not always better. 😛
Thank you Faruk!
Thank you very much for this great review, Please we need a comparison with Gopro 11 black
faruk abim türkiyeden selamlar kolay gelsin
❤
we need comparison video between Go Pro 12 and DJI Osmo Action 4...
Would you use Rock Steady or Rock Steady +? I’m confused by the difference and not sure which to use for a majority of my shots.
RS+ just crop more as the video explain, so nothing to worry if you set the view in Ultrawide
Now I’m waiting for the GoPro 12
Hello, great video! I have a question. I’ve been using Osmo Action 3 to record 4K videos, but the video automatically splits after some short period of recording time. I am wondering if this issue was finally solved in the new camera? Thank you and keep on filming! ;)
Same issue here
It’s also happen with DJI pOcket 2, split the video every 5 minutes I think. I’m glad this A4 capable split the file up to 20 minutes
You know what we want, GoPro vs Action 4!
dude, seriously, the 1st chart. 00:10 gyrodata?
Great🎉
Action 4 we dont have mic?
Did you get your sony 1 v? :)
Great review as always. Pricing gradually catching up with GoPro unfortunately 👍
theres only one thing that could stop me from getting the Action4 and thats the GoPro12 with overheating fixed
No comparison to Go Pro 11?
Camera quay quá đẹp
This beard suits you best dear Faruk, keep on trimmin :)
There is one thing that I don't like about this action camera is the still image resolution, 10 MP. Gopro 11 hero Balck's sensor resolution is 27 MP. DJI should be at par with GoPro. However, Action 4 is way far better than GoPro in other featuures, in my opinion. It's just it can't beat the image resolution level.
I am interested to buy "DJI OSMO ACTION 4 ADVENTURE COMBO" after I saw your video but I want to know first if I can use live stream or other video on youtube and other social media by "DJI OSMO ACTION 4 ADVENTURE COMBO"
Do you think gopro going to come out next month with something more superior?
its already leaked... and short answer i think they leaked the info themselves. hell yea the new go pro is gonna have 8k
@@amandaburleson2035 And it will overheat in 2 minutes😀
@@amandaburleson2035 and 1 minute of 8K means 500 gb
1 inch sensor. Hypersmooth is superior to Rock Steady. 4K 240 fps.
Nice.
I want to achieve your video quality one day ^^
I was still team GoPro prior to seeing your video of Action 4. Other tech reviewers of Action 4 disappointed me in their reviews but you made me switch. I wish DJI to take action for other reviewers who obviously doesn't know how to use the product and dismay the viewer in buying their product. Btw, GoPro still wins for ease of use even with bad UI. But Action 4 is better is the user is knowledgeable
So, in five-six weeks we will have the Hero12 with a 1 inch sensor. Why buy old tech?
@GrenlandUnderVann if the rumors are true then I'll study more which one to buy. Waiting a month is better than having buyer's remorse
@@TerVentures It's pretty obvious that DJI has positioned their release in front of the usual GoPro release in september.
you look young without beard
Got mine today and it overheated in my front room after 5 mins, not impressed
@iPhonedo So.beard is gone
For now :)
You've done great job doing this review.
But why HDR is such a garbage comparing to tiny iphone camera? I haven't seen this killed highlights for quite some time already, aaaaand here we go again with yet another action camera. Killed blown hightlights. Wow.
Not a fan of that video quality at all. Just seems very cheap looking - like something shot on a five year old Android smartphone.
But where is a6700 review…???
100 points for the onewheel
This is so good 😂
7:12 since it's not bt2020 it's not hdr hdr : what does he mean by this ?
Hey, AFAIK he referred to standards like HDR10 or Dolby Vision. The video will try to hold the wides dynamic range, but you will not get peak brightness and darkness on a HDR display. Hope this makes sense
what happened with the air3?
Next week
@@iPhonedo you used to have the videos ready to go the day of the launch…looking forward to your take on the A3 💪🏼
My my its been many years i stop diving with my gopro hero 4 and 5. I have always been watching ur channel back then and enjoyed so much u teasing Nick Woodman😂. You put on weight like 5 to 7 kg it seems yah ?, compared to 6-7 years ago and we are indeed aging...LOL. Great that utube algo brought ur channel to my attention again.
Bring back the beard!
The day has come when no stabilization is a feature!
Reis be, Why are the views so low?
The world need this kind of video, but still cant find it 😂
What do I do for zooming in on my kids during family vacations, theme parks, beach days, school events, and sports? Is there a camcorder/action camera anything in 2023 with this capability and image quality? I don’t want to pack a mirrorless everywhere we go.
I guess we can call it... "Grower"
Amazing, it's worse than the Hero11. The Hero12 will kill it.
Hello. Great vídeo. Can you livestream directly with it (without the need of the phone) and, can you feed a clean signal through hdmi? Thanks a lot.
You can't directly live stream with it, you still need to use the app, however it works as a webcam on PC, it worked on OBS.
Most people are not going to use an action camera in low light.
Funny how all those TH-cam reviewers-you included, does a “low light test” in a place where there is ALWAYS light, not only-its an open space. Tunnel 😂
Wow. You fooled us 😮🤮
Ridiculous
Do I need it - NO - I will save my money and buy the GoPro 12
Could you please add the Sony action Camera, which one you always talked about years before
the old Sony 3000 crap camera with no sound capability if it was in it's housing? No stability, color science from hell, etc? The old Contour cameras blew the Sony out of the water but they couldn't market worth a damn. Solid meta housing, glass lenses, GPS built in, great battery life, native waterproofing without a housing, etc. Just bad marketing
@@silbay It has optical image stability, that's the reason
Honestly I am not liking the Osmo 4 footage. It seems quiet washed out and under-exposed. Specially your comparison with Osmo 3. In your editing, I didnt care about the skies being blown out where at least you were properly exposed.