V.C Andrews wrote Flowers in the Attic, Petals on the Wind, If there be Thorns, and Seeds of Yesterday. It's just Garden of Shadows and the Corrine and Christopher series that Neiderman took over for.
"why go back to your trauma", I would argue that's the whole point of it, the fact that they never really left their trauma, their trauma defined and ruled their lives. They physically left the attic, but they never moved past it and that's why in the end Cathy , last one left from anyone who could even remotely understand what she went through, facing the prospect of having to deal with the horrible loses of everything that shaped her, symbolically chooses to return to where it all began. It is terrible and awful, but it is hers in a way nothing ever else ever will
same mother, and Corrine's father is the son of Christopher's father. So they're "3/4" siblings -- closer than half siblings, but not as close as full siblings. he's her half brother and half uncle at the same time.
1:02:00 Andrews did wrote 'thorns' She wrote Flowers in the attic, Petals on the wind, If there be thorns, My sweet Audrina, Seeds of yesterday, Heaven & Dark angel. Garden of shadows & the rest of the Casteel series may or may not be 'left' by Andrews or just the ghostwriter I don't know
@m. strik, while alive she wrote all the books. After her death, heard either her nephew or someone in the family made sure all V.C Andrew stories were published.
I am fascinated by it too. But you never mentioned her Sci-Fi fantasy novel, Gods of Green Mountain (which became available in 2004). As far as Paul goes, I remember him telling Cathy several times "Cut Chris off, make it clear that he has to let go and find someone else". But yes, he did end up telling her at the end to go to Chris. You also keep talking about her "other series", but none of those series are hers, except for the Casteel series, which has the southern gothic, but also the more English gothic in Massachusettes. The English Maze, Farthinggale manor outside of Boston... BTW, VCA wrote completely FITA, POTW, ITBT, SoY, MSA, Heaven, Dark Angel. GoS and FH were probably a combination between VCA and Neiderman. I also tend to think there is some real VCA in Web of Dreams. Aside from that, it's all Neiderman.
I would love to hear your reactions to flowers in the attic the origins. Love it! Garden of shadows is so good. Maybe read the other set of books about the first corinne. I enjoyed them. Im interested in anything Foxworth😅. Or hate read the final books of Christopher's diary. Im up to secret brother. We will see how it goes.
1 hr 7 mins in and i want to stop to eat but don't want to do so before thanking you for the incredible review, enjoying myself immensely so far, I always wanted to know more about these novels but been really weary of reading them so this really helps me out!
THANK YOU for pointing out the massive disconnect between how Olivia is portrayed in Garden of Shadows and THE GRANDMOTHER in Flowers in the Attic. There are so many continuity gaps between those books that I don’t even see them as taking place in the same fictional universe. Corrine says in Flowers that her mother was always religious, and Olivia says in Garden that she only got religion after Corrinne betrayed her. Now, we know that Corrinne is a lying sack of crap, but I don’t even think SHE would lie to THAT extent!
I always thought Cathy wanted a daughter cause she wants another Carrie, and also subconsciously just to prove that she’s nothing like Corrine. As for Christopher’s dairy, i’d like a story that tells from his pov, but even with just reading FITA I kinda already knew what he’s like, cause it’s already shown to us between the lines
It seems to me by the third or 4th book, the main characters all the sudden changed for the worst or get killed off. In the 4th book from the Dawn series, Dawn dies. In the 4th book of the Heaven series, Heaven dies, too. In the 4th book of the Ruby series, Ruby becomes ill.
This is Andrew Niederman at work. His series are so formula-bound that they read like AI years before there was AI. I quit reading his series once I realized they were all basically Xerox copies of the Casteel series with some details changed.
Also wanted to say the reason the Grandmother could go along with the murder was because, in her eyes, the children were an abomination and unholy. They were unnatural and should never have existed.
I could never at any point bring myself towards hating Olivia. Everything bad she did; she did because of her fanatical devotion to Christianity. But I couldn't help but feel a degree of warmth emanating from her towards the children (subtle though it may have been). She instructed them to never be idle and to always be developing a skill; and she also warned Cathy never to wait on any man. It seems to me that she always tried to do what she personally interpreted to be the right thing. I was disgusted with all the things Cathy did to her in Petals on the Wind, though I am pleased that Cathy at least felt remorse for her actions.
V.C Andrews wrote Flowers in the Attic, Petals on the Wind, If there be Thorns, and Seeds of Yesterday. It's just Garden of Shadows and the Corrine and Christopher series that Neiderman took over for.
"why go back to your trauma", I would argue that's the whole point of it, the fact that they never really left their trauma, their trauma defined and ruled their lives. They physically left the attic, but they never moved past it and that's why in the end Cathy , last one left from anyone who could even remotely understand what she went through, facing the prospect of having to deal with the horrible loses of everything that shaped her, symbolically chooses to return to where it all began. It is terrible and awful, but it is hers in a way nothing ever else ever will
In the Garden of Shadows, it is mentioned that Christopher Sr and Corrine share the same mother.
they did but never knew
same mother, and Corrine's father is the son of Christopher's father. So they're "3/4" siblings -- closer than half siblings, but not as close as full siblings. he's her half brother and half uncle at the same time.
1:02:00 Andrews did wrote 'thorns' She wrote Flowers in the attic, Petals on the wind, If there be thorns, My sweet Audrina, Seeds of yesterday, Heaven & Dark angel. Garden of shadows & the rest of the Casteel series may or may not be 'left' by Andrews or just the ghostwriter I don't know
@m. strik, while alive she wrote all the books. After her death, heard either her nephew or someone in the family made sure all V.C Andrew stories were published.
I am fascinated by it too. But you never mentioned her Sci-Fi fantasy novel, Gods of Green Mountain (which became available in 2004). As far as Paul goes, I remember him telling Cathy several times "Cut Chris off, make it clear that he has to let go and find someone else". But yes, he did end up telling her at the end to go to Chris.
You also keep talking about her "other series", but none of those series are hers, except for the Casteel series, which has the southern gothic, but also the more English gothic in Massachusettes. The English Maze, Farthinggale manor outside of Boston...
BTW, VCA wrote completely FITA, POTW, ITBT, SoY, MSA, Heaven, Dark Angel.
GoS and FH were probably a combination between VCA and Neiderman. I also tend to think there is some real VCA in Web of Dreams. Aside from that, it's all Neiderman.
I would love to hear your reactions to flowers in the attic the origins. Love it! Garden of shadows is so good. Maybe read the other set of books about the first corinne. I enjoyed them. Im interested in anything Foxworth😅. Or hate read the final books of Christopher's diary. Im up to secret brother. We will see how it goes.
1 hr 7 mins in and i want to stop to eat but don't want to do so before thanking you for the incredible review, enjoying myself immensely so far, I always wanted to know more about these novels but been really weary of reading them so this really helps me out!
THANK YOU for pointing out the massive disconnect between how Olivia is portrayed in Garden of Shadows and THE GRANDMOTHER in Flowers in the Attic. There are so many continuity gaps between those books that I don’t even see them as taking place in the same fictional universe. Corrine says in Flowers that her mother was always religious, and Olivia says in Garden that she only got religion after Corrinne betrayed her. Now, we know that Corrinne is a lying sack of crap, but I don’t even think SHE would lie to THAT extent!
I always thought Cathy wanted a daughter cause she wants another Carrie, and also subconsciously just to prove that she’s nothing like Corrine.
As for Christopher’s dairy, i’d like a story that tells from his pov, but even with just reading FITA I kinda already knew what he’s like, cause it’s already shown to us between the lines
One audio was better than part 1 but part 2 very difficult to hear and understand. Really wanted to hear the breakdown of the other books.
finally finished! I would ABSOLUTELY love a Jane Eyre review!
It seems to me by the third or 4th book, the main characters all the sudden changed for the worst or get killed off. In the 4th book from the Dawn series, Dawn dies. In the 4th book of the Heaven series, Heaven dies, too. In the 4th book of the
Ruby series, Ruby becomes ill.
This is Andrew Niederman at work. His series are so formula-bound that they read like AI years before there was AI. I quit reading his series once I realized they were all basically Xerox copies of the Casteel series with some details changed.
Wes Craven's version of the screenplay is available in The VC Andrews Trivia and Quiz Book.
Also wanted to say the reason the Grandmother could go along with the murder was because, in her eyes, the children were an abomination and unholy. They were unnatural and should never have existed.
I think it was a miscarriage but the baby wasn’t disfigured
I could never at any point bring myself towards hating Olivia. Everything bad she did; she did because of her fanatical devotion to Christianity. But I couldn't help but feel a degree of warmth emanating from her towards the children (subtle though it may have been). She instructed them to never be idle and to always be developing a skill; and she also warned Cathy never to wait on any man. It seems to me that she always tried to do what she personally interpreted to be the right thing. I was disgusted with all the things Cathy did to her in Petals on the Wind, though I am pleased that Cathy at least felt remorse for her actions.
she didn't have a miscarage