I went from the Avid BB7'S to those Zoom Xtech hb100 calipers and I must say the zoom's feel much smoother and has better modulation then the bb7's. I decided to keep the zooms on my Goped GSR 60 gas scooter. I did have to remove some air bubbles from the zoom calipers,I bought 4 calipers(for another scooter) and 3 of them had air bubbles,so I decided to just add new oil and removed all air bubbles.
After a months of usage i can say they are really good if you don't heat them so much, like in city or contry roads. Problem is when you ride them with 160mm discs in downhill, they will start to heat too much, after pistons won't return to their position, brakes are getting worse and can't pull the lever, until they cool down. If i used them more and more in heat i think they will start to leak.
Man i've been aching to find out about these things! So happy you are here to review these things for me. Otherwise i would have had to buy them and try them myself. Great!
I was considering these but once I read numerous opinions on ali that they leak fluid completely, I passed and optes for fully mechanical DB680. No reason to cut cost on safety and health.
The problem with hybrid disks is the limited room for expansion of the oil, so If you manage to overheat them they can leak and stop to work, usually when going downhill - one reason I'll stay with mechanical dual piston breaks until I can afford fully hydraulic for my gravel bike...
I have been using these calipers on my Triban 120 GRVL bike for 4 months and I am pretty satisfied with them. Since the installation, I haven't had to even adjust them, everything works perfectly and smoothly. These are million times better than the original Promax mechanical calipers! I pretty much recommend them!
How did you set them up as mine have no bite and performance is terrible? I am thinking it’s a set up issue as others say they work well but I can’t find that sweet spot.
@@atthesummitMTBskills you may try to adjust the screw so the pads would push closer to each other leaving a thin space for the rotor. Also, make sure the rotors are grease free.
@@atthesummitMTBskills I had exactly the same problem. I think the solution is the small adjustement bolt which needs an 2mm allen key. Screw it in at least 2/3 of its way. Then you can back off the actuator lever to dial in the travel of your brake lever. Otherwise the actuator might hit its limit before the pads can grab the rotor. I adjusted mine this way just today and the difference is night and day!
Hey, I have the exact same bike and after seeing some positive reviews of these calipers with grvl120 on instagram I’ve decided to try with the rear brake first. The installation was pretty easy but the rotor was touching the pads even with the open position. I tried some regulation, eventually I gave it to bike shop to set it up for me. But I’m not happy with the result, it brakes way worse than the promax in the front. I am now wondering if it’s the quality control issue and if I should try with another one. What do you guys think?
@@pawehalicki2049 I have been receiving similar messages on my Insta site, namely that people are not satisfied with the braking performance. For me, it is the opposite. Am I just lucky? Probably. But anyway, I would try a new rotor and a set of metallic XT pads, and I guess it will increase the performance a lot!
I use Jagwire compression less housing and it still moves a lot. also another disadvantage of mechanical brakes is it needs longer hose, especially on a full suspension bike, and is very sensitive to angles the hose is at.
been using Zoom Xtech HB100 Calipers for a week now on my Electric Scooter... stopping power is really good vs the stock mechanical caliper of my electric scooter... easy to install and so much easy to align on the rotor...
@@mustangbrand1159 so far it is still working fine...i just replace a couple of pads, now using a mix ceramic type instead of the metallic once because the ceramic type pads produces less noise. i bleed them once a couple of months ago and i added a spring which i inserted the brake cable line where it actuates the caliper so when i release the lever it pushes back the actuator of the caliper quicker.
zoom is underrated brake i have it on my mtb 1 year already and replaced pads already works great . i have also for my roadbike couple of months now and its working fine. stopping power is like mt200 shimano non series
After installing these brakes I noticed a very nice improvement in brake feel, power and smoothness. I had to use the mounts that were on the bike because Billy Wong or whomever the crazy Chinese guy who built my ebike probably put red loctite on the mounts for some damn reason and I couldn't get them off. However even with the standard mounts that came with my bike they work perfectly and were not an issue. The beauty of these brakes compared to my mechanicals is that the rear brake is now easy adjustable. WIth the mechanicals the hub motor is slightly larger than the disc so in order to adjust the pad you had to take the whole damn caliper off and just guess. Too much, take the caliper off again and adjust, same thing with too little. A real pain in the ass. Now I can just turn out a few turns on either the caliper end or the bar end as the pads wear down. As far as the pads they give you they are "ok" but some new decent pads would probably increase the braking even more. Also because they are grabbing the disc from both sides you are not warping the disc to brake and they are QUIET. I mean like no squeeking, screeching, etc. Every time you would adjust the mechanicals, even a millimeter or two, they would screech for two weeks while the pads adapted to their new position. I pretty much only use the bike for commuting and running errands so as soon as the stock pads are done, I'll pick up some nice ones.
I know plenty of people who had it leak either after a fast and intense downhill ride or after around 10-20kms of normal riding. QC seems to be a lottery, and I don't really want to bet with my brakes lol. I hope you got a good pair
I bought these because of the price, tried the Juin tech ones based on my positive experience with these and would go Juin tech every time. these are good, but the Juins are great
I was looking at the other type of hybrids, the ZRace one that they also sell in bundle with the Sensah gravel groupset, but read some reviews that its only one sided action. What is even the point of making it partly hydraulic, if it doesn't even actuate both sides?
Nice video. I just received mine, however, I find braking to be very stiff. I discovered it is due to the actual levers of the calipers that are being pulled by the brake cables being very stiff. Is there any way to sort of 'loosen' this lever without compromising braking power?
@@notpablo8369 I haven't replaced the pad yet cuz I'm wearing them out there's a listing on Google that you can research for the brakes and they've got a list of parts listed on Google image
I gather its no different then any other hydraulic system - albeit being very tiny. Just reset the piston positions. You can find tutorials about it on YT.
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a practical test would be better than a opinion based on how they look or are made . as in the same bike tested with mechanical one pot brakes versus these on a downhill stop test measured for distance . i bought these . and should have done that test , but im not going to take them off and try it . i can say they stop better , but not enough to make me say WOW . the same amount of force is needed to stop for a shorter distance . i have had them for months and they have no issues . although i dont brake that much . downhill i peddle faster . and stop at the end of the ride or if a dog or car gets in the way . supposingly full hydraulic brakes stop better and require less force .
@@jameseastwood402 mine are fine . after months of having them . but ill say where im at i could have got full hydraulics for the same price . but i had just bought new shifter brake combos so i didnt want to have to buy new shifters again. now im thinking of doing that . just so i can have the best setup .
@@boracay12 I have a TT bike, and hydraulic systems are either sold out of very very expensive. I'm hoping this will do the job until they become available again.
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I went from the Avid BB7'S to those Zoom Xtech hb100 calipers and I must say the zoom's feel much smoother and has better modulation then the bb7's. I decided to keep the zooms on my Goped GSR 60 gas scooter.
I did have to remove some air bubbles from the zoom calipers,I bought 4 calipers(for another scooter) and 3 of them had air bubbles,so I decided to just add new oil and removed all air bubbles.
After a months of usage i can say they are really good if you don't heat them so much, like in city or contry roads. Problem is when you ride them with 160mm discs in downhill, they will start to heat too much, after pistons won't return to their position, brakes are getting worse and can't pull the lever, until they cool down. If i used them more and more in heat i think they will start to leak.
Man i've been aching to find out about these things! So happy you are here to review these things for me. Otherwise i would have had to buy them and try them myself. Great!
I was considering these but once I read numerous opinions on ali that they leak fluid completely, I passed and optes for fully mechanical DB680. No reason to cut cost on safety and health.
Mine leaked after two or so years as well. So - dodged the bullet.
Just installed these. Best 30 dollar upgrade I ever made
The problem with hybrid disks is the limited room for expansion of the oil, so If you manage to overheat them they can leak and stop to work, usually when going downhill - one reason I'll stay with mechanical dual piston breaks until I can afford fully hydraulic for my gravel bike...
I have been using these calipers on my Triban 120 GRVL bike for 4 months and I am pretty satisfied with them. Since the installation, I haven't had to even adjust them, everything works perfectly and smoothly. These are million times better than the original Promax mechanical calipers! I pretty much recommend them!
How did you set them up as mine have no bite and performance is terrible?
I am thinking it’s a set up issue as others say they work well but I can’t find that sweet spot.
@@atthesummitMTBskills you may try to adjust the screw so the pads would push closer to each other leaving a thin space for the rotor. Also, make sure the rotors are grease free.
@@atthesummitMTBskills I had exactly the same problem. I think the solution is the small adjustement bolt which needs an 2mm allen key. Screw it in at least 2/3 of its way. Then you can back off the actuator lever to dial in the travel of your brake lever. Otherwise the actuator might hit its limit before the pads can grab the rotor.
I adjusted mine this way just today and the difference is night and day!
Hey, I have the exact same bike and after seeing some positive reviews of these calipers with grvl120 on instagram I’ve decided to try with the rear brake first. The installation was pretty easy but the rotor was touching the pads even with the open position. I tried some regulation, eventually I gave it to bike shop to set it up for me. But I’m not happy with the result, it brakes way worse than the promax in the front. I am now wondering if it’s the quality control issue and if I should try with another one. What do you guys think?
@@pawehalicki2049 I have been receiving similar messages on my Insta site, namely that people are not satisfied with the braking performance. For me, it is the opposite. Am I just lucky? Probably. But anyway, I would try a new rotor and a set of metallic XT pads, and I guess it will increase the performance a lot!
I use Jagwire compression less housing and it still moves a lot. also another disadvantage of mechanical brakes is it needs longer hose, especially on a full suspension bike, and is very sensitive to angles the hose is at.
"Nobel Piss Prize" - I peaced myself.
been using Zoom Xtech HB100 Calipers for a week now on my Electric Scooter... stopping power is really good vs the stock mechanical caliper of my electric scooter... easy to install and so much easy to align on the rotor...
Does it leak?
@@edwintan11 so far it did not leaked...
8 months later, how are the brake holding up? Any issues? i'm on the verge of getting a pair of these for my rad rover
@@mustangbrand1159 so far it is still working fine...i just replace a couple of pads, now using a mix ceramic type instead of the metallic once because the ceramic type pads produces less noise. i bleed them once a couple of months ago and i added a spring which i inserted the brake cable line where it actuates the caliper so when i release the lever it pushes back the actuator of the caliper quicker.
zoom is underrated brake i have it on my mtb 1 year already and replaced pads already works great . i have also for my roadbike couple of months now and its working fine. stopping power is like mt200 shimano non series
After installing these brakes I noticed a very nice improvement in brake feel, power and smoothness. I had to use the mounts that were on the bike because Billy Wong or whomever the crazy Chinese guy who built my ebike probably put red loctite on the mounts for some damn reason and I couldn't get them off. However even with the standard mounts that came with my bike they work perfectly and were not an issue. The beauty of these brakes compared to my mechanicals is that the rear brake is now easy adjustable. WIth the mechanicals the hub motor is slightly larger than the disc so in order to adjust the pad you had to take the whole damn caliper off and just guess. Too much, take the caliper off again and adjust, same thing with too little. A real pain in the ass. Now I can just turn out a few turns on either the caliper end or the bar end as the pads wear down. As far as the pads they give you they are "ok" but some new decent pads would probably increase the braking even more. Also because they are grabbing the disc from both sides you are not warping the disc to brake and they are QUIET. I mean like no squeeking, screeching, etc. Every time you would adjust the mechanicals, even a millimeter or two, they would screech for two weeks while the pads adapted to their new position. I pretty much only use the bike for commuting and running errands so as soon as the stock pads are done, I'll pick up some nice ones.
I know plenty of people who had it leak either after a fast and intense downhill ride or after around 10-20kms of normal riding. QC seems to be a lottery, and I don't really want to bet with my brakes lol. I hope you got a good pair
I bought these because of the price, tried the Juin tech ones based on my positive experience with these and would go Juin tech every time. these are good, but the Juins are great
juin is more expensive
@@MegaPhill93 Yes, and better
I was looking at the other type of hybrids, the ZRace one that they also sell in bundle with the Sensah gravel groupset, but read some reviews that its only one sided action. What is even the point of making it partly hydraulic, if it doesn't even actuate both sides?
"Do not loose it"
Great review.
Curious to see a followup
Nice video. I just received mine, however, I find braking to be very stiff. I discovered it is due to the actual levers of the calipers that are being pulled by the brake cables being very stiff. Is there any way to sort of 'loosen' this lever without compromising braking power?
Planning to buy the exact same brakes, would they be compatible with any STI lever(mines a sagmit speedone)? Thanks in advance for the help
I've used them with STI and with v-brake lever. They are excellent in both configurations.
@@TryboBike ¡con palancas para mtb, gracias!. 🙌👍
It would be awesome if you started posting links to the aliexpress pages you buy things from!
I have new zooom DB 680 dual both brake pads are fully functional brake pad mechanical no hydraulics so far I like them
What replacement pads did you use? The b01s doesnt fit
@@notpablo8369 I haven't replaced the pad yet cuz I'm wearing them out there's a listing on Google that you can research for the brakes and they've got a list of parts listed on Google image
@@notpablo8369 brake pads of universal with several different models from Zoom the brake pads I got or semi metallic
@@notpablo8369 but you have to have matching rotors to the brake pads otherwise you'll tear them apart
hey could you do a review on zoom fully hydraulic disk brakes.its about 47 CAD on aliexpress.
so how to bleed the zoom, or no need to do it?
How about the maintenance of minera oil?
I have these on two bikes. There miles better than the manual brakes. Rim brakes just plain suck.
I looked for a follow up video but did not see one. How did these end up working?
The followup is due shortly - a week ... or five. But it is coming. But they are fine.
Do these use the propietary pads as well?
They use standard shimano pads from older shimmy brakes.
@@TryboBike you the man! Gonna give these a try this week
salamat uncle trybo
i replace my pads but how can i push back the circle thingy? should i bleed it out?
I gather its no different then any other hydraulic system - albeit being very tiny. Just reset the piston positions. You can find tutorials about it on YT.
@@TryboBike i tried pushing it maybe its the wrong pads? its quite bigger too
Your catch phrase at the end is wrong. You dont see me, only i see you.
I can "see you" in the comments, through the rising view count and likes/dislikes. Metaphorically. The "you" is both singular in a sense of comments, and plural as "you" is "the audience". :)
02:11 Well played.
Do caliper adjust the pads automatically?
It appears they do. I've been on this bike several times now ( about 400-500km ) and I had no need to adjust the pads yet.
Blemish? That's just weight reduction.
I have them. Construction is okay however brake power is much lower then Hayes mx5. Maybe because of factory brake pads. Has anyone tried other pads?
Might not have bedded in. Takes a while
You really like to find SOLUTIONS...
What? A Nobel Piss Prize.....lol.....🤣
Are these still fine?
Yup. No issues whatsoever.
a practical test would be better than a opinion based on how they look or are made . as in the same bike tested with mechanical one pot brakes versus these on a downhill stop test measured for distance . i bought these . and should have done that test , but im not going to take them off and try it . i can say they stop better , but not enough to make me say WOW . the same amount of force is needed to stop for a shorter distance . i have had them for months and they have no issues . although i dont brake that much . downhill i peddle faster . and stop at the end of the ride or if a dog or car gets in the way . supposingly full hydraulic brakes stop better and require less force .
@@boracay12 I'm not so fussed about that. I just want to know they are not going to fail and kill me.
@@jameseastwood402 mine are fine . after months of having them . but ill say where im at i could have got full hydraulics for the same price . but i had just bought new shifter brake combos so i didnt want to have to buy new shifters again. now im thinking of doing that . just so i can have the best setup .
@@boracay12 I have a TT bike, and hydraulic systems are either sold out of very very expensive. I'm hoping this will do the job until they become available again.