I'm a maxillofacial surgeon in Brazil, and i've seen some bullet wounds I remember this guy that got shot in the nose, and the bullet split his hard palate in half. His premolar was inside his cheek His tongue was split too, and the bullet was under it He lost a lot of teeth, and a looot of bone structure And one of the things i remember the most was his face before the surgery. He was so..... so... so calm... And the entry hole looked like a small hole I'm also a legal gun owner, and I also agree that prohibition doesn't solve it, specially since most people that get wounded here in brazil are wounded by criminals with illegal guns, and not legal ones
I am also from Brasil. I don't see how improving the supply of legal weapons is going to reduce the amount of weapons in the hands of criminals. I am not blaming you for owning a gun, but strict gun control works in a lot of places.
@@vidal9747 It's not an issue of amount. It's an issue with culture. FInland is in top10 of civilian owned guns per person, yet not a lot of news about shootings from there right? Iceland, Norway and Austria are pretty high in civilian guns per capita and the situation is simmilar. Brazil though is 97th, Mexico is 60th in civilian owned guns per person. It is strictly an issue of culture first, state effectiveness second. Even in US alone there are states with less legal guns and more gun crimes, and states with more legal guns and less gun crimes. It is not an issue of the amount of legal guns. Especially since legal guns are registered when bought and guns leave something like a fingerprint on a bullet. Shooting someone with a legaly possessed gun is like telling the investigator "hey, that's me, I did it".
@@vidal9747 we had a very strict gun control policy in 2003. Before that we had 33k homicides a year, and it kept rising until it reached 65k/year in 2017. The gun control policy started to get more flexible back in 2018, with president Temer (and concealed carry for collectors, hunters, and sportsmen) , and ir reduced from 65k (2017) to 55k (2018) Am I saying the homicide rates dropped because of flexible fun control policy? No. I'm saying it dropped a lot, even tho it got easier to carry a gun. What about 2019, when Bolsonaro came in power? In January first he made it even easier to get and maintain legal guns, and also to carry them. Did it make homicide rates go up? Nope. 2019 had 45k homicides And it went on dropping in 2020, and then dropped again in 2022. In USA they have similarities in certain locations Gang activities and robberies usually have smaller numbers in places that civilians can legally obtain firearms. The famous shooting usually occur in gun free zones. Usually when they happen outside a gun free zone the shooter ends up shot before greater harm. Like that one that happened in a church, that the shooter was killed after he started shooting people; And like that one that a guy started shooting people in a shopping mall and a Eli Dicken shot him 8 times from 40 yards away There's also a fbi study that shows that most times fire arms are used for protection they don't even need to be shot. Because usually the criminal flees when sees the gun. And the amount of crimes that are avoided just by that surpasses the amount of people that get shot in USA What about Brazil shootings? Since 2002 there were 24 with guns, and 12 with other weapons. I know the precise number because a good friend of mine is doing a work on that. What calibers were used? 38 and 40. What are those calibers in Brazil? Police and private security What are the calibers sold the most for civilians? 380, 9mm and 22lr. How many shooting have occurred with those calibers? 1, with a 22lr. And the 22lr was illegal What period was the worst in school violence in these past decades? This one I know you remember: Last year. 11 attacks. What happened last year? New and stricter gun control laws. Again, I'm not saying that gun control leads directly to violence. But every time gun control gets stricter, violence numbers rise. Other example? London UK has one of the most strict gun laws in Europe. Even the police is unarmed. And London is still one of the most dangerous capitals in Europe, because of stabbings and gang activity. I'm not talking about giving a gun to every person. I'm talking about the right to bear arms. If you are not a criminal, if you aren't clinically insane, and if you have a history of being a good law abiding citizen. Every gun I own shot through paper and metal plates. Never shot a human being. Most people I know today own legal guns. They are responsible and law abiding, and even the far right ones are very very respectable when carrying guns. In January 8th 2023 we had a attempt of a coup by some Bolsonarists. They usually carried guns. How many guns were taken that day? None. How many people were armed that day? None. Even though they attempted to bring down the government, they did so empty handed. Why? Because every law abiding citizen that carry guns does so for their protection/hunting, and not to "get a point across". I don't expect to convince you. I expect maybe to provide some information that may leave you a little curious on what I'm saying. Maybe enough to research. Or maybe just enough to understand that strict gun laws do not bring safety
I've had two veterans tell me they'd rather get shot again than get kidney stones again. One was a relatively clean leg shot, and the other guy was shot in the gut when he wasn't wearing his armor. I also had a nurse tell me kidney stones were worse than childbirth. So I'm pretty sure kidney stones are the 10 on the pain scale.
haha I can witness to this !! I have 4, passed one a few months ago, it's a pain like no other, but I'd rather go through it than to deal with the GERD I've had to deal with, while GERD doesn't hurt physically, it does cause anxiety and severe weight loss both which I've experienced.
I've had significant pressure in my head due to spinal fluid buildup in and around the brain and no pain in my life has ever compared to that - stubbed toe, lego brick, surgical pain, inguinal hernia (was told to walk it off for about 3-4 years), etc. - nothing compares to the continued unending excruciating pain. It was the only time in my life I was screaming and could not stop until I was directly administered delaudit via syringe before I even got an IV
Exactly. It's not a gun problem; it's the "gangsta" worship foolishness among a small sector of urban populace, and most of the shooting s occur with and between them. But the propagandist media will never state that fact.
@jackmorrison8269 not the point, education to promote a relatively equalizer with these things is. We know criminals will be criminals, it's how the non criminals (and our convoluted justice system) deals with them that matters.
@@jackmorrison8269 Education won't do anything for those people, but it would reduce the occurrence of accidents. People who want to harm themselves will also use whatever method is available, but mental health education can help to spot at risk people early.
I've always been amazed at how much damage someone can endure like being shot 35 times, but a microscopic virus or bacteria can take you out real quick
It really is weird, isn't it? I've seen videos of people surviving being shot like 20 times, and they survived....and I've seen cases where somebody fell, bumped their head on the ground, and died instantly. Human body's weird, man.
My grandmother, when she was still alive, survived a .38 bullet entering her chest, bouncing off her ribs and resting by her vertabrae... fortunately the bullet did not fragment and the operation to extract it left no complications compared to covid later on... She got the nickname "boob of steel" which made everyone giggle ^^ The human body is a delicate but superbly resilient machine it seems, until it no longer is.
@@TheZombieburner yep. Not fun fact number 1 traumatic (murder or incident) to die is slipping in the shower. That is why there are panic buttons in the bathroom of most hotels. In 6or 7 months working in a small one there were 4 persons who got seriously injured 3 broken femors and a cracked skull(lots of hear saved her I think) and one broken neck, but that case was a little bit SUS but I am almost sure he was murked but nothing came out. BTW I you don't know a broken femoral bone can absolutely kill someone by cutting the massive blood vessels next to it I think this is usually what gets people falling from a great high first.
My dad's 1st wife was in a fender-bender, hit just the right spot on her temple with just tge right amount of force, and if she hadn't died my dad would never have met and married my mom.
Doing a video or series on ptsd would be epic. 30 years ago, most nation's military organizations would ignore/deny it existing. Most of the non-secondary educated of my generation have many misconceptions aboot it and I'd include all generations since due to social-media's romanticizing other peoples problems. Please do the ptsd teaching bro. Lots of people could be helped by that.
That's probably a better question to ask Georgia Dow (TH-cam channel of the same name) or Dr K (TH-cam channel HealthyGamer) as they specialise in that field of treatment
Great advice. Firearms a useful tool for protection, putting food on the table in hard times and even be a fun hobby to pass the time and actually keep you out of trouble but should never be drawn due to any state of emotion aside from reasonable fear.
Dad caught a round in the knee flying in Vietnam. He lucked out though and recovered fine. He did not care for the experience. And did not like anyone touching the area.
An excellent video as always Dr. Raynor. You bring up many good points but I would like to add one or two. I am a Veteran and a Texas Citizen and from my experiences in civilian life, an armed society is a polite society. I've never seen someone get out of their car in road rage, never seen someone start a fight in a store or even start a protracted yelling match. I attribute this to the fact that you simply cannot know if the other person is armed or how they will react. Towards the end of your video you touched on the criminal aspect of this violence, and while I agree on your points I would like to add one more. We need to start going after the gangs! The more these gangs are allowed to go on operating, the more innocents are going to get caught in the crossfire; and it certainly doesn't help that the culture of today glamorizes such activities and organizations. I think that education on this as well as mental health is paramount, but in tandem with swift justice. There was a time not too long ago where someone wouldn't dare carry out such senseless acts and it is my solemn belief that it is because they knew that it would lead to capital punishment. I know it is a scary idea to go back to that but whoever reads this, I would like to sincerely ask you to take into the consideration who these criminals hurt. If someone took your child's life in a drive by shooting, would it not be justice for them to pay the price for that beautiful child? if we disagree on some things, please feel free to comment and lets have a dialogue. That's the only way we can work out these problems is by talking about it. Much Love!
When my mom was beaten with a gun the ER doctor told her that such a thing is actually initially more painful due to shock from being shot. For context the gun and being beaten with it caused her nose and the side of her face to be broken and her jaw to be dislocated. She did say that the worst pain she has ever experienced was when they had to do an emergency c-section to get me out of her and were unable to give her anything for pain due to the risk of her hypertension becoming life threatening. I imagine being cut open with nothing for pain would be... unpleasant. As would being beaten with a pistol... EDIT: My mom was 21 at the time; shes 59 now and still feels the effects of both of these things to this day... And she wasn't actually shot just beaten with a gun... so yeah... This stuff affects someones life FOREVER.
I've actually been shot twice. First time at age 17 by a criminal attacking me, second time working with the army. First time: I was surprised by the heat - it was very burning sensation, not at all like getting stabbed or punched. honestly the greatest shock though was that it didn't stop me, i didn't fall over - it stung somewhat but I carried on, in truth I had experienced far more pain from blunt force (i was an experienced combat sports fighter) FYI the bullet passed through part of the side of my abdomen - thankfully nothing important got hit, it was a grazing wound, it really just hit my skin and fat. Gun was a pistol, range was about 0.5 meters, it was aimed at my gut but I knocked it to the side mostly. Still have a nice big scar that itches constantly. Second time: Working with the armed forces. shot in the leg The gun was ak47 I THINK, so a 7.62 round, range - extreme... half a kilometer? bullet went in to thigh but not through. hurt like a sod (id give it a 6/10). Still very much a burning sensation. I fell down but did not go unconscious. bullet pulled out by a medic and super glue/stiches applied.. took about a week to recover to an acceptable level - dont even have a visible scar now (25 years on). Truthfully Im now disabled due to spinal damage (unrelated to getting shot, but due to other injuries while working with forces) - and the pain in my back is far worse than the pain from getting shot either time - depending on whether its out of alignment. Recently had surgery (adrenalectomy), the doc was decidedly shocked by me being up and on my feet within 3 hours and was surprised by my not being bothered by the pain from the surgery - I had to explain that compared to my back and knee surgery was at worst a 3/10 ;) Hope this data helps doc! Also - yes please do one on PTSD, If you want an inverview for this, hit me up! PTSD is far worse than the physical damage.
VERY interesting video!! I always wondered what it felt like to be shot. What I really find fascinating were the men who said they had an out of body experience BEFORE they were shot. A premonition of sorts. Thank you for yet another great, informative, fun to learn video!! ❤
Anita, that is very interesting to hear because I feel like I had something similar happen when a dumb careless owner accidentally shot me. I feel like before I got shot, I seen that barrel of the gun pointing my direction and was attempting to tell him to be careful when he went to holster it when his finger slipped in the trigger guard as he was holstering causing the gun to accidentally discharge into me. I feel like I could feel it and see it about to happen before it happened. Almost like slow motion too
The problem is not how easy it is to get guns. It was way easier 60 years ago for us to get guns and the crime was not this bad. it is a change in people.
I got shot with the equivalent of a 22 when I was a kid. It felt like I got hit by a rock until it got wedged in my knee. It hit the kneecap and got wedged in there. That hurt like a SOB. Then, it didn't hurt if I didn't move my knee. If I moved my leg, I wanted to die. 1-10 ranking ->12. I fully recovered.
About 15 years ago, I had a negligent discharge into my right hand (very stupid as I was intoxicated). It was a 22lr. This was a Monday. I didn't go to the hospital until Friday due to embarrassment. The police came and filed a report 😂. The EMT that transported me was an Iraq war vet and he was impressed that I drove myself to the hospital
The human body can do remarkable things even when shot. I talked to a medic who had a guy in Iraq or Afghanistan (One of the two) that got shot in the neck and the bullet exited is butt. Besides stitches and minor surgery the guy was fine. Absolutely bonkers. Hell he even witnessed a patient who was blown in half by an IED, and yet the patient was having a completely normal conversation, like you and I would have even though he had ZERO blood pressure. Again, absolutely bonkers.
2:38 As someone suffering from chronic pain + hypersensitive hearing, this served as an excellent reality check on the 1-10 scale of pain. (going from a 9 to an 8, that rusty knife is still tempting to use)
Very accurate and informative video Doc. I have seen people who have been shot, and not realized it because of the cocktail of drugs they were on, and were able to carry on in conversation, until the loss of blood caught up with them.
Dr. Chris, great video as always and great perspective. One thing I’d caution you about is the term “gun violence“. It’s subtly propagandistic and disingenuous. The statistics include criminal gun use, police shootings, justifiable self-defense, and worst of all suicide. Well, these are all important issues and worth talking about, lumping them all together is deceptive.
I was shot in the gut by a .357 mag hp from 5 feet away. It felt like being hit in the guts with a sledge hammer . Took half large and small intestines, Right Kidney, half my stomach and 15% of my liver. It stopped in my body just right of the spine and about an inch from coming out. I died three times and was in Hospital for 6 months.
A colleague and friend of mine was doing some training to be a close-protection specialist (a bodyguard). We live in Canada, but his training was across the river in Detroit, at some club that was hosting a radio-station event. A young man had been booted from the club, and my friend had spotted the suspect vehicle coming back up the alley a short time later. Except the shooter wasn't in it, he was following behind, and ambushed them. He was shot in the leg with a Tec 9, and he said there was a tonne of blood. Was pretty touch and go for a bit, but he made it through, and made it through the US health care system as a Canadian. Still unfortunately has a lot of mobility issues to this day, 16-ish years later. And the shooter was never caught.
Having had my shoulder and knee reconstructions, still dealing with spine and neck damage. I can say that pains really a sliding scale. Especially for people who haven't been hurt too badly.
I've had a firearm by my side in one form or another since 1990. In fact my junior senior year of high school driving to and from I had a gun rack in the back of my truck with a loaded 12 gauge shotgun and a loaded 30-06 rifle. Had my own Hornady reloading station by the time I was 20 2 gunsmiths in my family kept me motivated. Yes the ballistics we have nowadays are nasty, I encourage anyone to go take a look at the civil war museum in the wounds we incurred on one another with those civil war musketball to the sabots....whoa talk about cavitation
That "gun violence" number in the beginning involves suicides, self defense, and police. In other words, not all violence. They're also wrong about it being "the leading cause of premature death" or however it was stated. It doesn't even make top ten. Heart disease kills about a quarter million Americans every year. Traffic fatalities top gun shot wound deaths in the US. There are a lot of statistical misrepresentations floating around out there. The biggest one recently was "guns are the leading cause of death of children." This is only if you count people 18-20 as children, and omit 0-2 year olds.
it's 2024 in America. you pick which version of reality you want to subscribe to. at least you think you do, in realize you don't. it's chosen for you. we have the best social control system in the world.
Great video as usual, Doc - love the channel. I need to differ from you on one thing: You stated an AK pattern rifle shoots a "faster, bigger bullet" than a pistol. The typical 7.62x39mm round is 123 grain, while the NATO 9mm load is 124 grain, well within the variation of one round to the next, and not enough difference to make a difference. I understand you may be referring to the catridges themselves, the rifle round having a case that's 20mm longer to hold more gunpowder. Be that as a may, nomenclature matters, in weaponry as well as medicine.
@@vileon3 He's looking at "bigger" AKA size & mass.....Are you really trying to argue that 7.62 is a bigger number than 9, and that 123 is a bigger number than 124? P.S. remember that the bullet is the part that flies out the barrel, so you don't conflate bullet with cartridge. P.P.S. Rifle bullets tend to be much smaller than pistol bullets in general....
got hit with a 9mm jacketed hollow point to the neck went through my back molars and shattered my jaw just had a fibia flap on my mandible it happened last may for me it didn’t hurt at all just felt like a rock hit me like one fast ass rock but you will forsure feel the healing process and man it can get rough but god got me through it hallelujah 🙏🏿💯
I just found your channel, Dr. Raynor, and I really enjoy your videos. I've been treated by an "everyday" ortho and I can tell by watching your videos that you're definitely not your "everyday" ortho. Heck, it's as clear as black and white! Congratulations on your success but you better not get too complacent. If more men and women of the "not your everyday" caliber come along you could find yourself regarded as merely "everyday". Nothing personal, but maybe that's what we should hoping for. Sounds paradoxical, but I hope you know what I'm getting at.
I find this curious. I have been in two car accidents where I was on a bike and a scooter. So these were extremely high impact with no protection. I ripped my face apart and I shattered my hip bone into 17 pieces. Yes, the pain was severe beyond anything eventually, but during the initial impact I felt very little other than the wind being knocked out of me really hard. The shock seemed to protect me from feeling the initial injury. In fact the first accident, where I had my lip dangling from my mouth (hit and run), I walked my bike home and thought I could sleep it off. Thank God I live in Canada where I never have to suffer this, but I wonder if anyone who's been shot didn't feel much of it at first. All compassion to anyone who's gone through this
I can guarantee you bro people have been shot before and felt exactly like how you described. I know it’s absolutely nothing compared to a gunshot wound but I think the human body has a way of disconnecting from any and all pain given the right circumstances. I had a dart drop and stick me completely through my foot, i didn’t notice at first but i started feeling a bit of warmth for some reason no pain yet at all so I looked down and as soon as my eyes made contact and i realised what happened the pain immediately started, it wasn’t that bad but i think adrenaline and whatever else in the body can mask pain signals in rare instances regardless of what it is.
most excellent work... not sure if someone mentioned this but there was sub topic notably absent; the mechanism of action and the effects of hollow point ammunition. that aside, this is excellent and thorough explanation of ballistic effects
I can buy a gun with just my liscense, but thats after i served in the military and after i filled out a bunch of stupid forms and backround checks to make sure my ptsd wouldnt affect my ownership...
It's also important to consider ammunition type. A jacketed hollow point, for example, is designed specifically to not only expand in the body, but also to dump all of its kinetic energy on impact.
I once had an accident with my bike, did a 360 over a car... just broken my clavicle (looked like a smushed cookie later on xray) and was waiting for treatment in the ER. Then I heard from the room next to me "blood pressure dropping! 70to40!" and just thought... "yep, guys... just gimme a blanket and some painkiller, you have other issues over there!" I did get my treatment 45 minutes later, and the other person survived as well. True heroes at work there!
My daughters dad got shot with a 45, 7 times in the abdomen, 1 in leg and 1 in shoulder. He said it was indescribable pain. He Lived a healthy 23 yrs after and a Lil leukemia took him out😢
Im a 4 tour combat veteran who’s been shot. 11 times. My craziness had also led me to a lot of ptsd and heroin addiction for decades. Id rather get shot than go thru heroin withdrawal again anytime.
Not a GS victim; but had a C4-C7 fusion that was over 9 hours.... That was in OCT '19, and I still have nightmares. Had to live in a neck collar for 4-5 months. Thankfully I was still active-duty, and did not have to pay the nearly $1Mil bill. I can't imagine what a GSW surgery would be charged....
@6:21, gunpowder residue might be present at close range, but not at a distance. @6:30, bullet lubricant is more commonly used with lead or lead alloy bullets in pistol calibers. Copper (or gilding metal) jackets are more common in rifle calibers. Only some rifle bullets are coated with a lubricant (e.g., molybdenum disulfide), but most are not.
@Ghost-zf8lk, no I am not. However, I am an experienced shooter who is familiar with the effects of distance on what will be present at various portions of the bullet trajectory. Gunshot residue (i.e., propellant, minute particles of bullet material, et al) does not travel very far from the barrel - on the order of a meter or two, at most. Notice that I am not questioning the effects of a projectile within the body. Dr. Raynor corrected himself later in the video. Everyone makes mistakes that are not edited out of video.
After seeing videos talking about a little girl getting shot with a shot gun and burned alive and surviving as well as one talking about a woman who was almost decapitated, but lived and was able to make her way to a road to get help, I agree pain is very different person to person. Idk if I'd survive either scenario myself because of said pain.
I will say I have no idea what the gun laws are like in Canada. But far as I know, in any state in the US, you have to have a legle and valid form of ID to buy a gun legally. Some states have registeresrys, and some dont, but they still have to follow federal laws.
Lets take a look at that "as far as you know". EVERY state, it's federal requirement to provide current and valid state or federally issued idea that shows your current address, or if you list a business address or a PO box as is allowed in some states, documents that prove your current address like a voter registration form, or a lease with multiple bills.
It's very very hard to get a handgun license. They're classified as restricted and you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get licensed. I'm in Canada. I'm talking about Canada.
It's fairly easy to get High Powered Rifles in Canada, very easy to get any Rimfire rifle or Short barreled rifle, they use to consider 22lr Pistols as "Rifles" because the round was called 22LongRifle lol I had a Browning Buckmark 10+1 22lr Pistol and a 10round 7.62×39 Russian SKS at 18, and if your shopping for any Shotguns (excluding Full Autos lol) they are by far the easiest to get no matter the barrel length or guage size, double barrels, Revolving .410s, or even small CQB Tactical and Breaching Style shotguns like my Winny SpeedPump Tactical 12guage, which I always thought was wierd because a 12guage Slug Round is literally a Short Range 50BMG with the same damage factor only 50BMG Rounds can travel 5-10× the Distance Accurately and further for Trained Snipers, but they are going for the .338LPMs and .408Cheytacs because they have much better distance from being quite a bit lighter. All Handguns since Trudumb require a super long ass license process, backgroubd check, and a likely No after all the work. Which is why places like Alberta, BC, and Yukon are flooded with private Alaskan and Montana Pistols which are some of the easiest places to get gxns, and Toronto is full of Michigan and weapons, and the Dakotas supplement Sask and Manitobas growing market. The Canadian FireArm Ban actually Raised Gang Violence, Tweaker Shootouts, and Shootings in General, the pistol ban created a 30-75% Raise in Shootings Deaths and Injuries, and thats just the Reported ones, in the Prairies there are so many missing ppl that likely were shot out in the middle of nowhere and haven't been found, if they were it would most likely raise significantly. 3Ds and Homemades also exist to an unknown extent.
Solid video Doc. I appreciate you giving the facts from a medical perspective and touching on the causes of gun violence in the US, which is usually a result of gang-related disputes. This epidemic is a direct result of the destruction of family values in our culture, which affects distinct communities differently. How many of those who pull the trigger have fathers in their homes? How many have been taught the consequences of their actions? Love your videos and topics. Keep them coming!
Don't forget the scene in Reservoir Dogs when Mr White tells Mr Orange that getting shot in the gut is the most painful place to be shot. Awesome movie.
It's not true, but those that don't know parrot that same talking point a bunch. In fact I still remember the reporter who thought this same thing. She did an entire article on the subject as was rather upset that it was harder than she expected
@@I_dont_understand_25 that's the point. I'm tired of the rest of the world lecturing the US based on BS opinions. Let's get honest and start with the major crime problems in the US. 85% of that 38000 he wants to argue about... Blacks and Mexicans. Not the guns
I still have a bullet lodged in my back from being shot in the chest 52 years ago. I didn't know the round had hit me until I saw blood on my shirt. 13 years ago I was shot again. It felt like someone had punched me in the chest.
@@cultcargo I'm just one of those people who have bad luck. I also had a truck fall off an overpass and land on top of me while driving underneath it, I was attacked by a redneck gang and almost beaten to death and I got caught in a tropical storm in my sailboat and lost at sea for 6 days. I was drug by a car by the people who robbed me who then ran over me. Although that was partially my fault as I jumped halfway into the car to fight it out with the thieves. Got a brain injury when work truck rolled down a mountain in Colorado and and crashed. I Got a bad concussion fighting 3 muggers in Cambodia. Thanks for asking.
Before you criticize the Doc's stance on guns watch the whole video. At the end he says our "focus needs to be on education rather than restriction." He's not trying to make this a political video, he's acknowledging that it is a contentious issue.
1. I am a gun owner. 2. I am Canadian so while i acknowledge the 2A in the US, I am not subject to it or bound to it. I can consider gun ownership outside of that legal doctrine because it does not pertain to me.
That 1-10 pain ranking reminded me of the time I had an open nerve on a tooth. Hurt so bad I was lying down and barely twitching being delirious. I had thought of jumping in front of a car to end the pain but the thing that stopped me was if I survived it would be double pain. Now that I look back on it I wonder if that was about a 9 or 10.
It depends on the bullet you get hit with. 12 gauge hallow point slug and buck shot has a very high lethality! 9mm actually has a relatively high survival rate. I carry a 45 with JHP 185gr 45 Super 1,300 FPS 710ft-lbs of force and stops within 9 inches of gel and most 45 ACP rounds have a high lethality because it s not only bigger but doesn’t just zip through but really dump its energy as it enters causing more trauma!
I may not have been shot, but I have one of the most painful diseases know to science yet have a lack of facial expression when it comes to pain bc I am autistic. I have been dismissed about my pain being a 10 by MANY doctors.
I was shot in my upper thigh by a .380 when I was 19. At first I thought I bumped my thigh on something after running. When I looked down I seen the blood and noticed I was shot. It just felt like a burning sensation and as if someone gave me a frog. Luckily the bullet didn’t penetrate deep and I was able to get it out with a plier to avoid the hospital. That was a dumb move but I’m glad it didn’t get infected and healed ok.
Yea I had that out of body experience, I think at some point my parents had a car accident. We all nearly passed away from it even me. I saw my own body as I float. Only to get dragged back in. All I could remember the last part not the car accident itself nor the day and year it happened. I personally have no lasting damages after it soo.
So many things in the video that are correct but not quite. . . 1) Bullets don't yaw (become unstable) in the air until very very far down range when they have lost a tremendous amount of velocity. For instance a 143 grain 6.5 Creedmoor rifle round will begin to become unstable at around 1300 yards down range. Alternatively, when they strike something, like in the case of this video, a body, or limb of a tree when hunting, the bullet can immediately begin to tumble and cause more damage in the body but is also losing velocity and accuracy immediately. In the video, the graphic shown is showing the bullets path and yaw through tissue not air causing a Temporary and the Permanent wound channel. 2) Type of gun isn't "the" biggest factor in most cases. They type of bullet and the specific design/construction of that bullet is a huge factor. For instance a full metal jacket 9mm will easily pass through the body with little temporary or permanent cavity tissue destruction where as a jacketed hollow point defensive round (like Law enforcement use) will dump all its energy into the target and make a huge temporary and permanent wound cavity. 3) Gun Violence. . . "Squarely young people in their twenties". . . and the main demographic group is Criminals and Gang Violence. Legal gun owners are not even part of the issue. 4) "It's easier to get a gun than a drivers license" Not true if you've ever had to get a drivers license and buy a gun you know the difference. Look into it th-cam.com/video/-l4s901oOUY/w-d-xo.html 5) Great videos Doc, keep em coming!
Does leaving the needle in the bone reinforce or strengthen the bone against tensional or shear force to the bone just like in reinforced concrete. i cn not find any video explain this anywhere thank you
"It's easier to get a gun than a license" I would disagree with that. You have to fill out a form with all your identifying information and then they search a federal database for any criminal records that bar you from ownership. You basically just have to prove you live in that state and legally identify yourself. Break anything in the 4473 form and you can never legally own firearms. Which Includes but is not limited to: Straw Purchases, Felony charges of a potential year or more - even if you served less, if you are a fugitive from justice, if you have drug addictions, have been adjudicated as mentally defective, Dishonorably Discharged, if you have restraining orders of any kind or domestic violence charges, if you have renounced your citizenship, or if you are an illegal alien. That's just the things from the 4473. You can never get those rights back. You could do one of those at 18, realize the error of your ways and become a monk or some shit and live like a hermit in the woods for the next 50+ years like a Disney princess, and you still can't own them. You can get a DUI at triple the legal limit and get your license back in a year. Even if a license was easier, it's still far harder to lose your ability to drive than to own a gun legally. Also you need a license to buy a gun. As well, some stats in this are misleading. The "38,000 a year dead from gun violence" includes suicide, which I wouldn't consider a violent crime. I don't consider it right, but It's self inflicted. They aren't going out and harming someone else, and those account for almost 27,000 of the 48,000 in 2022. That is no small segment of the total number.
Is it like “Spinal Tap,” the movie? Take that pain up to “11”!! Someone once mistook a birthmark for a gunshot scar, being disappointed to hear that, no, I’ve very, very fortunately never been shot…
I got shot in a hunting accident when young. I was a far off ricochet not direct but it was scary and did sting a lot lol. I do not remember how many little lead shots were in me but they did leave them in me. I wonder how much that lead ended up affecting me.
I have a "holy phone case".... took 2 shots to the heart.....stopped by the titanium phone case...... Still happy to be able to post a message ..... Shock still hurt like hell, still nothing like getting knee surgery without anesthesia :)).... Wouldn't want to get a penetrative shot ever, because that would be quite hurtfull.
I had my calf nearly taken off by 3 inch magnum 12 gauge 00 buckshot from 6 foot away. Felt like a toddler kicked me in the leg initially. Didn't feel pain until the paramedic removed my boot and even then it was only about a 2 or 3. The aftermath of my gallbladder surgery was significantly more painful.
I was shot in July 2023 at point blank range in my left hip. The initial shot didn't hurt but the bullet shattered my pelvis so anytime the nurses picked me up to transfer me from one bed to another for x-rays (which was often) it was a 20 on the 1-10 pain scale. So was trying to crawl into the car to get to the hospital. Now I have a metal rod from my hip to my knee which bothers my knee still. Having multiple blood transfusions is not exactly fun either when you have hidden internal bleeding and they speed up the transfusion rate. Neither is learning to walk again when they only give you 1 crutch cuz you also have a broken right clavicle from a fall and dont want you putting any pressure on. Being stuck on the trauma floor for weeks not being able to go outside and smoke sucks too along with the hosital food was like being in jail with a crappy cell mate that yells all day after surviving it all 😂
As someone with a good understanding of firearms and ballistics, I found the video informative, highlighting the importance of respecting firearms. It effectively explained bullet behavior, serving as a useful educational tool. Regarding the assertion about military firearms causing more pain or damage, it might not be entirely accurate. Military ammunition, mainly full metal jacket (FMJ), is often the standard, but it has a higher failure rate, merely creating a hole of its diameter. Exceptions like 7n6 and m855a1 exist, which are reliable and devastating. In contrast, the civilian market offers higher-quality ammunition like hollow points and soft points, which expand, tumble, or fragment more reliably, causing increased damage and are often far more devastating. However, it's worth noting that the majority of gun violence involves inexpensive FMJ ammunition, often surplus military rounds, making direct comparisons between military and civilian ammunition somewhat less applicable; this also suggests that injuries incurred in the military and in gun violence are likely more comparable. Apologies for the lengthy explanation, but I wanted to offer a thorough perspective. Overall, minor gripe aside, I appreciate the valuable work you do and the knowledge you share.
At 16yo I caught the Forrest Gump wound right in the left cheek. The round was a .22. It felt like getting shot by a pellet gun. It missed my tail bone by 1.5 inches and the base of my urethra by 1.5 to 2 inches. The hit was a ricochet. My only reaction was saying ouch. the doctor that saw me in the hospital said that I could not have picked a better place to get hit because there is only muscle there. In 2004 I fell from ten feet off of a ladder and broke my wrist in 19 places. Weird as it sounds getting shot hurt less than breaking my wrist.
It's different everywhere here you just need an ID and 2 forms of address bills or junk mail for proof of address. Once your current residence and age is proven you can buy what you want and however much you want so long as you're 21yo. So she is technically right and wrong just depends on where you live.
Not being able to pee. And ending up in the emegency room was the worst pain for me. More than being stabbed or a decent toothache. But falling about 40 feet or so. Hurt so bad, i couldnt move for a hour. But it shook off in s day.
@ChrisRaynorMD You and Garand thumb should do a crossover! (Also, I had a shattered tib/fib fracture displaced from a simple fall as I have VERY minor OI, and I then got an infection, and now it is dehisced and I am going into surgery (3rd in a month, 5th ever) to clean it out and close it as I also have minor necrosis, so wish me luck!
Since I am a moderate, and believe guns are a human right, and healthcare is a human right: doctors best shut up and fixed up those GSWs! I got rights.
I'm a maxillofacial surgeon in Brazil, and i've seen some bullet wounds
I remember this guy that got shot in the nose, and the bullet split his hard palate in half.
His premolar was inside his cheek
His tongue was split too, and the bullet was under it
He lost a lot of teeth, and a looot of bone structure
And one of the things i remember the most was his face before the surgery. He was so..... so... so calm...
And the entry hole looked like a small hole
I'm also a legal gun owner, and I also agree that prohibition doesn't solve it, specially since most people that get wounded here in brazil are wounded by criminals with illegal guns, and not legal ones
Thank you, for saving lives and seeing reason. Finally someone gets it.
I am also from Brasil. I don't see how improving the supply of legal weapons is going to reduce the amount of weapons in the hands of criminals. I am not blaming you for owning a gun, but strict gun control works in a lot of places.
@@vidal9747 Does strict gun control work in Brasil?
@@vidal9747 It's not an issue of amount. It's an issue with culture. FInland is in top10 of civilian owned guns per person, yet not a lot of news about shootings from there right? Iceland, Norway and Austria are pretty high in civilian guns per capita and the situation is simmilar. Brazil though is 97th, Mexico is 60th in civilian owned guns per person. It is strictly an issue of culture first, state effectiveness second. Even in US alone there are states with less legal guns and more gun crimes, and states with more legal guns and less gun crimes. It is not an issue of the amount of legal guns. Especially since legal guns are registered when bought and guns leave something like a fingerprint on a bullet. Shooting someone with a legaly possessed gun is like telling the investigator "hey, that's me, I did it".
@@vidal9747 we had a very strict gun control policy in 2003. Before that we had 33k homicides a year, and it kept rising until it reached 65k/year in 2017.
The gun control policy started to get more flexible back in 2018, with president Temer (and concealed carry for collectors, hunters, and sportsmen) , and ir reduced from 65k (2017) to 55k (2018)
Am I saying the homicide rates dropped because of flexible fun control policy? No.
I'm saying it dropped a lot, even tho it got easier to carry a gun.
What about 2019, when Bolsonaro came in power? In January first he made it even easier to get and maintain legal guns, and also to carry them. Did it make homicide rates go up?
Nope. 2019 had 45k homicides
And it went on dropping in 2020, and then dropped again in 2022.
In USA they have similarities in certain locations
Gang activities and robberies usually have smaller numbers in places that civilians can legally obtain firearms.
The famous shooting usually occur in gun free zones.
Usually when they happen outside a gun free zone the shooter ends up shot before greater harm.
Like that one that happened in a church, that the shooter was killed after he started shooting people;
And like that one that a guy started shooting people in a shopping mall and a Eli Dicken shot him 8 times from 40 yards away
There's also a fbi study that shows that most times fire arms are used for protection they don't even need to be shot. Because usually the criminal flees when sees the gun.
And the amount of crimes that are avoided just by that surpasses the amount of people that get shot in USA
What about Brazil shootings? Since 2002 there were 24 with guns, and 12 with other weapons. I know the precise number because a good friend of mine is doing a work on that.
What calibers were used? 38 and 40. What are those calibers in Brazil? Police and private security
What are the calibers sold the most for civilians? 380, 9mm and 22lr.
How many shooting have occurred with those calibers? 1, with a 22lr. And the 22lr was illegal
What period was the worst in school violence in these past decades? This one I know you remember:
Last year. 11 attacks.
What happened last year? New and stricter gun control laws.
Again, I'm not saying that gun control leads directly to violence.
But every time gun control gets stricter, violence numbers rise.
Other example? London
UK has one of the most strict gun laws in Europe. Even the police is unarmed. And London is still one of the most dangerous capitals in Europe, because of stabbings and gang activity.
I'm not talking about giving a gun to every person.
I'm talking about the right to bear arms. If you are not a criminal, if you aren't clinically insane, and if you have a history of being a good law abiding citizen.
Every gun I own shot through paper and metal plates. Never shot a human being. Most people I know today own legal guns. They are responsible and law abiding, and even the far right ones are very very respectable when carrying guns.
In January 8th 2023 we had a attempt of a coup by some Bolsonarists. They usually carried guns. How many guns were taken that day?
None.
How many people were armed that day?
None.
Even though they attempted to bring down the government, they did so empty handed. Why? Because every law abiding citizen that carry guns does so for their protection/hunting, and not to "get a point across".
I don't expect to convince you. I expect maybe to provide some information that may leave you a little curious on what I'm saying. Maybe enough to research. Or maybe just enough to understand that strict gun laws do not bring safety
I've had two veterans tell me they'd rather get shot again than get kidney stones again. One was a relatively clean leg shot, and the other guy was shot in the gut when he wasn't wearing his armor. I also had a nurse tell me kidney stones were worse than childbirth. So I'm pretty sure kidney stones are the 10 on the pain scale.
haha I can witness to this !! I have 4, passed one a few months ago, it's a pain like no other, but I'd rather go through it than to deal with the GERD I've had to deal with, while GERD doesn't hurt physically, it does cause anxiety and severe weight loss both which I've experienced.
My mom also said that kidney stones were more painful than childbirth, and she did it five times. Childbirth, not kidney stones lol.
I've had significant pressure in my head due to spinal fluid buildup in and around the brain and no pain in my life has ever compared to that - stubbed toe, lego brick, surgical pain, inguinal hernia (was told to walk it off for about 3-4 years), etc. - nothing compares to the continued unending excruciating pain. It was the only time in my life I was screaming and could not stop until I was directly administered delaudit via syringe before I even got an IV
I had kidney stones and it bad really bad. And I have heard the its worse than giving birth.
When I went in to labor I didn't even realize what was happening because I had recurrent kidney infections that hurt so much worse 🙃
"Regardless of what you think about gun accessibility, I think the focus needs to be on education, rather than restriction." Absolutely true.
Exactly. It's not a gun problem; it's the "gangsta" worship foolishness among a small sector of urban populace, and most of the shooting s occur with and between them. But the propagandist media will never state that fact.
Education and mental health availability for those who need it but cannot afford it.
Yeah because people that want to do harm and have access, are gonna read a book and change their mind. 😂
@jackmorrison8269 not the point, education to promote a relatively equalizer with these things is.
We know criminals will be criminals, it's how the non criminals (and our convoluted justice system) deals with them that matters.
@@jackmorrison8269 Education won't do anything for those people, but it would reduce the occurrence of accidents. People who want to harm themselves will also use whatever method is available, but mental health education can help to spot at risk people early.
Just here for those who forget that Dr Chris is a Canadian and as such his ability to own is vastly different than our ability to own here in the US.
important caveat for sure!
I was unaware. Thank you for enlightening me.
I thought he was American 💀
@@mikeluke9685 we don't like to educate blacks folks in the US, so nah.
I've always been amazed at how much damage someone can endure like being shot 35 times, but a microscopic virus or bacteria can take you out real quick
It really is weird, isn't it? I've seen videos of people surviving being shot like 20 times, and they survived....and I've seen cases where somebody fell, bumped their head on the ground, and died instantly.
Human body's weird, man.
My grandmother, when she was still alive, survived a .38 bullet entering her chest, bouncing off her ribs and resting by her vertabrae... fortunately the bullet did not fragment and the operation to extract it left no complications compared to covid later on... She got the nickname "boob of steel" which made everyone giggle ^^
The human body is a delicate but superbly resilient machine it seems, until it no longer is.
@@TheZombieburner yep. Not fun fact number 1 traumatic (murder or incident) to die is slipping in the shower. That is why there are panic buttons in the bathroom of most hotels. In 6or 7 months working in a small one there were 4 persons who got seriously injured 3 broken femors and a cracked skull(lots of hear saved her I think) and one broken neck, but that case was a little bit SUS but I am almost sure he was murked but nothing came out. BTW I you don't know a broken femoral bone can absolutely kill someone by cutting the massive blood vessels next to it I think this is usually what gets people falling from a great high first.
My dad's 1st wife was in a fender-bender, hit just the right spot on her temple with just tge right amount of force, and if she hadn't died my dad would never have met and married my mom.
because the virus or bacteria is a tiny little machine that can do things that a blunt force can not.
Doing a video or series on ptsd would be epic. 30 years ago, most nation's military organizations would ignore/deny it existing. Most of the non-secondary educated of my generation have many misconceptions aboot it and I'd include all generations since due to social-media's romanticizing other peoples problems. Please do the ptsd teaching bro. Lots of people could be helped by that.
That's probably a better question to ask Georgia Dow (TH-cam channel of the same name) or Dr K (TH-cam channel HealthyGamer) as they specialise in that field of treatment
I was always told never to pick up a firearm in anger. Think first. And know all action have consequences.
Great advice. Firearms a useful tool for protection, putting food on the table in hard times and even be a fun hobby to pass the time and actually keep you out of trouble but should never be drawn due to any state of emotion aside from reasonable fear.
Dad caught a round in the knee flying in Vietnam. He lucked out though and recovered fine. He did not care for the experience. And did not like anyone touching the area.
An excellent video as always Dr. Raynor. You bring up many good points but I would like to add one or two.
I am a Veteran and a Texas Citizen and from my experiences in civilian life, an armed society is a polite society. I've never seen someone get out of their car in road rage, never seen someone start a fight in a store or even start a protracted yelling match. I attribute this to the fact that you simply cannot know if the other person is armed or how they will react.
Towards the end of your video you touched on the criminal aspect of this violence, and while I agree on your points I would like to add one more. We need to start going after the gangs! The more these gangs are allowed to go on operating, the more innocents are going to get caught in the crossfire; and it certainly doesn't help that the culture of today glamorizes such activities and organizations. I think that education on this as well as mental health is paramount, but in tandem with swift justice. There was a time not too long ago where someone wouldn't dare carry out such senseless acts and it is my solemn belief that it is because they knew that it would lead to capital punishment. I know it is a scary idea to go back to that but whoever reads this, I would like to sincerely ask you to take into the consideration who these criminals hurt. If someone took your child's life in a drive by shooting, would it not be justice for them to pay the price for that beautiful child?
if we disagree on some things, please feel free to comment and lets have a dialogue. That's the only way we can work out these problems is by talking about it.
Much Love!
When my mom was beaten with a gun the ER doctor told her that such a thing is actually initially more painful due to shock from being shot. For context the gun and being beaten with it caused her nose and the side of her face to be broken and her jaw to be dislocated. She did say that the worst pain she has ever experienced was when they had to do an emergency c-section to get me out of her and were unable to give her anything for pain due to the risk of her hypertension becoming life threatening. I imagine being cut open with nothing for pain would be... unpleasant. As would being beaten with a pistol...
EDIT: My mom was 21 at the time; shes 59 now and still feels the effects of both of these things to this day... And she wasn't actually shot just beaten with a gun... so yeah... This stuff affects someones life FOREVER.
She could have been beaten with a lead pipe, she happen to have been pistol -whipped, really it had nothing to do with a "firearm" .
Your poor mom💔🫂
Your videos are edited so well! The little clips and very funny and informative. Fantastic job.
Excellent choice to use "Three Kings" as a reference. Really good visualization of bullet impact and secondary damage.
I've actually been shot twice. First time at age 17 by a criminal attacking me, second time working with the army.
First time:
I was surprised by the heat - it was very burning sensation, not at all like getting stabbed or punched.
honestly the greatest shock though was that it didn't stop me, i didn't fall over - it stung somewhat but I carried on, in truth I had experienced far more pain from blunt force (i was an experienced combat sports fighter)
FYI the bullet passed through part of the side of my abdomen - thankfully nothing important got hit, it was a grazing wound, it really just hit my skin and fat.
Gun was a pistol, range was about 0.5 meters, it was aimed at my gut but I knocked it to the side mostly.
Still have a nice big scar that itches constantly.
Second time:
Working with the armed forces. shot in the leg
The gun was ak47 I THINK, so a 7.62 round, range - extreme... half a kilometer?
bullet went in to thigh but not through. hurt like a sod (id give it a 6/10). Still very much a burning sensation.
I fell down but did not go unconscious.
bullet pulled out by a medic and super glue/stiches applied.. took about a week to recover to an acceptable level - dont even have a visible scar now (25 years on).
Truthfully Im now disabled due to spinal damage (unrelated to getting shot, but due to other injuries while working with forces) - and the pain in my back is far worse than the pain from getting shot either time - depending on whether its out of alignment.
Recently had surgery (adrenalectomy), the doc was decidedly shocked by me being up and on my feet within 3 hours and was surprised by my not being bothered by the pain from the surgery - I had to explain that compared to my back and knee surgery was at worst a 3/10 ;)
Hope this data helps doc!
Also - yes please do one on PTSD, If you want an inverview for this, hit me up! PTSD is far worse than the physical damage.
seems you are tough man
@@cultcargo eh Its fair t say I was. these days not so much ;)
Man thanks for the in depth explanation! That’s insane!
@@JamesJr1981 your welcome, always happy to share knowledge.
VERY interesting video!! I always wondered what it felt like to be shot. What I really find fascinating were the men who said they had an out of body experience BEFORE they were shot. A premonition of sorts. Thank you for yet another great, informative, fun to learn video!! ❤
Anita, that is very interesting to hear because I feel like I had something similar happen when a dumb careless owner accidentally shot me. I feel like before I got shot, I seen that barrel of the gun pointing my direction and was attempting to tell him to be careful when he went to holster it when his finger slipped in the trigger guard as he was holstering causing the gun to accidentally discharge into me. I feel like I could feel it and see it about to happen before it happened. Almost like slow motion too
Good message Doc.
The problem is not how easy it is to get guns. It was way easier 60 years ago for us to get guns and the crime was not this bad. it is a change in people.
Could order BARs, Thomsons, M1s out of the Sears catalog and get them delivered to your house.
Exactly!
Most people only "know" whatever it is that they keep hearing
from the media.
Most people only" know" whatever it is they keep hearing from the mainstream media.
money is not as valuable due to inflation now. People have less money now than before, so households are more stressed, and medical is more expensive.
I got shot with the equivalent of a 22 when I was a kid. It felt like I got hit by a rock until it got wedged in my knee. It hit the kneecap and got wedged in there. That hurt like a SOB. Then, it didn't hurt if I didn't move my knee. If I moved my leg, I wanted to die. 1-10 ranking ->12. I fully recovered.
that’s crazy. amazing that you recovered
About 15 years ago, I had a negligent discharge into my right hand (very stupid as I was intoxicated). It was a 22lr. This was a Monday. I didn't go to the hospital until Friday due to embarrassment. The police came and filed a report 😂. The EMT that transported me was an Iraq war vet and he was impressed that I drove myself to the hospital
@@E_Legal_Alien,If you drove yourself to the hospital, how was an EMT involved in transporting you.
@@potatolew4495 transported from the ER to the hand surgeon. So from Banner Thunderbird to John C Lincoln.
The human body can do remarkable things even when shot. I talked to a medic who had a guy in Iraq or Afghanistan (One of the two) that got shot in the neck and the bullet exited is butt. Besides stitches and minor surgery the guy was fine. Absolutely bonkers.
Hell he even witnessed a patient who was blown in half by an IED, and yet the patient was having a completely normal conversation, like you and I would have even though he had ZERO blood pressure. Again, absolutely bonkers.
We demand a video on the topic: gout flares and possible link to Arthritis 😢
2:38 As someone suffering from chronic pain + hypersensitive hearing, this served as an excellent reality check on the 1-10 scale of pain.
(going from a 9 to an 8, that rusty knife is still tempting to use)
NOT IN A [SELF FOREVER SLEEP] WAY, I just now realized how that sounded x_x
The way you show every channel that has a video on this is great
You are a master of staying objective.
Very accurate and informative video Doc. I have seen people who have been shot, and not realized it because of the cocktail of drugs they were on, and were able to carry on in conversation, until the loss of blood caught up with them.
Dr. Chris, great video as always and great perspective. One thing I’d caution you about is the term “gun violence“. It’s subtly propagandistic and disingenuous. The statistics include criminal gun use, police shootings, justifiable self-defense, and worst of all suicide. Well, these are all important issues and worth talking about, lumping them all together is deceptive.
Well said.
I was shot in the gut by a .357 mag hp from 5 feet away. It felt like being hit in the guts with a sledge hammer . Took half large and small intestines, Right Kidney, half my stomach and 15% of my liver. It stopped in my body just right of the spine and about an inch from coming out. I died three times and was in Hospital for 6 months.
Wow 🙏🏾
@@daveroberts9431 That's crazy! Was it an accident or on purpose?
Thank you
I enjoy your videos very much.
Thank you too!
A colleague and friend of mine was doing some training to be a close-protection specialist (a bodyguard). We live in Canada, but his training was across the river in Detroit, at some club that was hosting a radio-station event. A young man had been booted from the club, and my friend had spotted the suspect vehicle coming back up the alley a short time later. Except the shooter wasn't in it, he was following behind, and ambushed them. He was shot in the leg with a Tec 9, and he said there was a tonne of blood. Was pretty touch and go for a bit, but he made it through, and made it through the US health care system as a Canadian. Still unfortunately has a lot of mobility issues to this day, 16-ish years later. And the shooter was never caught.
An excellent video as usual.
Having had my shoulder and knee reconstructions, still dealing with spine and neck damage. I can say that pains really a sliding scale. Especially for people who haven't been hurt too badly.
The pain of being shat indeed.
Excellent, if you like that kind of humor. And I do! hahahahahahahaha!
I've had a firearm by my side in one form or another since 1990. In fact my junior senior year of high school driving to and from I had a gun rack in the back of my truck with a loaded 12 gauge shotgun and a loaded 30-06 rifle. Had my own Hornady reloading station by the time I was 20 2 gunsmiths in my family kept me motivated. Yes the ballistics we have nowadays are nasty, I encourage anyone to go take a look at the civil war museum in the wounds we incurred on one another with those civil war musketball to the sabots....whoa talk about cavitation
respect for not trying to cover up where gun crime occurs
yeh i thought that, and I also think Dr chris is a fantastic role model for any young black americans.
"Every person that hits the trauma bay has somebody that loves them"
It seems they don't know me
Jesus loves you bro.
You buy a lot of taco’s, he’d miss you as a customer
I, too, know that feel.
I really appreciate your videos, Dr. Chris. Informative and funny!! The best possible combination
That "gun violence" number in the beginning involves suicides, self defense, and police. In other words, not all violence. They're also wrong about it being "the leading cause of premature death" or however it was stated. It doesn't even make top ten. Heart disease kills about a quarter million Americans every year. Traffic fatalities top gun shot wound deaths in the US.
There are a lot of statistical misrepresentations floating around out there. The biggest one recently was "guns are the leading cause of death of children." This is only if you count people 18-20 as children, and omit 0-2 year olds.
Even in my recent ENPC class they used correct stats and GSW was def not the top
it's 2024 in America. you pick which version of reality you want to subscribe to. at least you think you do, in realize you don't. it's chosen for you. we have the best social control system in the world.
Wow it's a different world there thank you for educating me.
Was nice seeing Hacksmith Industries YT clip in your video. Keep up the good work.
Great video as usual, Doc - love the channel.
I need to differ from you on one thing: You stated an AK pattern rifle shoots a "faster, bigger bullet" than a pistol.
The typical 7.62x39mm round is 123 grain, while the NATO 9mm load is 124 grain, well within the variation of one round to the next, and not enough difference to make a difference.
I understand you may be referring to the catridges themselves, the rifle round having a case that's 20mm longer to hold more gunpowder. Be that as a may, nomenclature matters, in weaponry as well as medicine.
The PSI from a 9mm is about 35000 whilst a 7.62 is around 60000. You are looking at grain, not power.
@@vileon3 He's looking at "bigger" AKA size & mass.....Are you really trying to argue that 7.62 is a bigger number than 9, and that 123 is a bigger number than 124?
P.S. remember that the bullet is the part that flies out the barrel, so you don't conflate bullet with cartridge.
P.P.S. Rifle bullets tend to be much smaller than pistol bullets in general....
got hit with a 9mm jacketed hollow point to the neck went through my back molars and shattered my jaw just had a fibia flap on my mandible it happened last may for me it didn’t hurt at all just felt like a rock hit me like one fast ass rock but you will forsure feel the healing process and man it can get rough but god got me through it hallelujah 🙏🏿💯
I just found your channel, Dr. Raynor, and I really enjoy your videos. I've been treated by an "everyday" ortho and I can tell by watching your videos that you're definitely not your "everyday" ortho. Heck, it's as clear as black and white! Congratulations on your success but you better not get too complacent. If more
men and women of the "not your everyday" caliber come along you could find yourself regarded as merely "everyday". Nothing personal, but maybe that's what we should hoping for. Sounds paradoxical, but I hope you know what I'm getting at.
I find this curious. I have been in two car accidents where I was on a bike and a scooter. So these were extremely high impact with no protection. I ripped my face apart and I shattered my hip bone into 17 pieces. Yes, the pain was severe beyond anything eventually, but during the initial impact I felt very little other than the wind being knocked out of me really hard. The shock seemed to protect me from feeling the initial injury. In fact the first accident, where I had my lip dangling from my mouth (hit and run), I walked my bike home and thought I could sleep it off.
Thank God I live in Canada where I never have to suffer this, but I wonder if anyone who's been shot didn't feel much of it at first. All compassion to anyone who's gone through this
Well, Teddy Roosevelt for one.
I can guarantee you bro people have been shot before and felt exactly like how you described. I know it’s absolutely nothing compared to a gunshot wound but I think the human body has a way of disconnecting from any and all pain given the right circumstances. I had a dart drop and stick me completely through my foot, i didn’t notice at first but i started feeling a bit of warmth for some reason no pain yet at all so I looked down and as soon as my eyes made contact and i realised what happened the pain immediately started, it wasn’t that bad but i think adrenaline and whatever else in the body can mask pain signals in rare instances regardless of what it is.
Absolutely fascinating, as always
most excellent work... not sure if someone mentioned this but there was sub topic notably absent; the mechanism of action and the effects of hollow point ammunition. that aside, this is excellent and thorough explanation of ballistic effects
I love yoh Dr Chris, and your channel! 😉😉 I learn so much from each video. Thanks for all your hard work! Its appreciated. 🐱🐱
I know a few folks that didnt even realize they been shot.
I can buy a gun with just my liscense, but thats after i served in the military and after i filled out a bunch of stupid forms and backround checks to make sure my ptsd wouldnt affect my ownership...
I can buy one from a rando I met on Facebook out of his trunk in a Walmart parking lot. Private sales are perfectly legal in my State
@@oxishimaruxoYep. I could've bought three shotguns and a pistol at the flea market this weekend, if I'd wanted them.
Just remember “Johns Hopkins study suggests medical errors are third-leading cause of death in U.S.”
It's also important to consider ammunition type. A jacketed hollow point, for example, is designed specifically to not only expand in the body, but also to dump all of its kinetic energy on impact.
I once had an accident with my bike, did a 360 over a car... just broken my clavicle (looked like a smushed cookie later on xray) and was waiting for treatment in the ER.
Then I heard from the room next to me "blood pressure dropping! 70to40!" and just thought... "yep, guys... just gimme a blanket and some painkiller, you have other issues over there!"
I did get my treatment 45 minutes later, and the other person survived as well. True heroes at work there!
My daughters dad got shot with a 45, 7 times in the abdomen, 1 in leg and 1 in shoulder. He said it was indescribable pain. He Lived a healthy 23 yrs after and a Lil leukemia took him out😢
Your videos are very educational and excellently made.
Is there a way I can connect with you?
Use the contact info on the About page.
Im a 4 tour combat veteran who’s been shot. 11 times. My craziness had also led me to a lot of ptsd and heroin addiction for decades.
Id rather get shot than go thru heroin withdrawal again anytime.
Not a GS victim; but had a C4-C7 fusion that was over 9 hours.... That was in OCT '19, and I still have nightmares.
Had to live in a neck collar for 4-5 months. Thankfully I was still active-duty, and did not have to pay the nearly $1Mil bill.
I can't imagine what a GSW surgery would be charged....
@6:21, gunpowder residue might be present at close range, but not at a distance.
@6:30, bullet lubricant is more commonly used with lead or lead alloy bullets in pistol calibers. Copper (or gilding metal) jackets are more common in rifle calibers. Only some rifle bullets are coated with a lubricant (e.g., molybdenum disulfide), but most are not.
@Ghost-zf8lk, no I am not.
However, I am an experienced shooter who is familiar with the effects of distance on what will be present at various portions of the bullet trajectory. Gunshot residue (i.e., propellant, minute particles of bullet material, et al) does not travel very far from the barrel - on the order of a meter or two, at most.
Notice that I am not questioning the effects of a projectile within the body.
Dr. Raynor corrected himself later in the video. Everyone makes mistakes that are not edited out of video.
After seeing videos talking about a little girl getting shot with a shot gun and burned alive and surviving as well as one talking about a woman who was almost decapitated, but lived and was able to make her way to a road to get help, I agree pain is very different person to person. Idk if I'd survive either scenario myself because of said pain.
OMG you actually showed a clip of Black Rambo! Dude dual-wields full auto .50 BMG's. Total badass!
Slim400 in the intro to this video was actually later shot and killed a couple years ago
Rip Slim 4Hunnid
Bless up Dr Chris didn’t know yuh was a yawd man
Hey Doc....You're good!
It’s much harder to get a gun than a license.
Can you an episode on ankle sprains i recently sprained my ankle cant wak and i just want some medical advice
I will say I have no idea what the gun laws are like in Canada. But far as I know, in any state in the US, you have to have a legle and valid form of ID to buy a gun legally. Some states have registeresrys, and some dont, but they still have to follow federal laws.
Lets take a look at that "as far as you know". EVERY state, it's federal requirement to provide current and valid state or federally issued idea that shows your current address, or if you list a business address or a PO box as is allowed in some states, documents that prove your current address like a voter registration form, or a lease with multiple bills.
It's very very hard to get a handgun license. They're classified as restricted and you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get licensed. I'm in Canada. I'm talking about Canada.
I can buy guns at our local flea market, no ID required.
It's fairly easy to get High Powered Rifles in Canada, very easy to get any Rimfire rifle or Short barreled rifle, they use to consider 22lr Pistols as "Rifles" because the round was called 22LongRifle lol I had a Browning Buckmark 10+1 22lr Pistol and a 10round 7.62×39 Russian SKS at 18, and if your shopping for any Shotguns (excluding Full Autos lol) they are by far the easiest to get no matter the barrel length or guage size, double barrels, Revolving .410s, or even small CQB Tactical and Breaching Style shotguns like my Winny SpeedPump Tactical 12guage, which I always thought was wierd because a 12guage Slug Round is literally a Short Range 50BMG with the same damage factor only 50BMG Rounds can travel 5-10× the Distance Accurately and further for Trained Snipers, but they are going for the .338LPMs and .408Cheytacs because they have much better distance from being quite a bit lighter. All Handguns since Trudumb require a super long ass license process, backgroubd check, and a likely No after all the work. Which is why places like Alberta, BC, and Yukon are flooded with private Alaskan and Montana Pistols which are some of the easiest places to get gxns, and Toronto is full of Michigan and weapons, and the Dakotas supplement Sask and Manitobas growing market. The Canadian FireArm Ban actually Raised Gang Violence, Tweaker Shootouts, and Shootings in General, the pistol ban created a 30-75% Raise in Shootings Deaths and Injuries, and thats just the Reported ones, in the Prairies there are so many missing ppl that likely were shot out in the middle of nowhere and haven't been found, if they were it would most likely raise significantly. 3Ds and Homemades also exist to an unknown extent.
@@tenchraven any fool or criminal currently can get guns through private sales perfectly legally, no questions asked
Solid video Doc. I appreciate you giving the facts from a medical perspective and touching on the causes of gun violence in the US, which is usually a result of gang-related disputes. This epidemic is a direct result of the destruction of family values in our culture, which affects distinct communities differently. How many of those who pull the trigger have fathers in their homes? How many have been taught the consequences of their actions?
Love your videos and topics. Keep them coming!
Very astutely stated!
Don't forget the scene in Reservoir Dogs when Mr White tells Mr Orange that getting shot in the gut is the most painful place to be shot. Awesome movie.
“Easier to get a gun than a drivers license”
I don’t believe that is true after buying several firearms, but ‘easy’ is a subjective term.
It's not true, but those that don't know parrot that same talking point a bunch. In fact I still remember the reporter who thought this same thing. She did an entire article on the subject as was rather upset that it was harder than she expected
Once again, that is only if you are purchasing one legally from a gun store.
It's not true at all.
It's a load of bullshit.
This entire video starts with a load of misrepresented garbage.
yeah if its out of the trunk of old jimmies car
@@I_dont_understand_25 that's the point.
I'm tired of the rest of the world lecturing the US based on BS opinions.
Let's get honest and start with the major crime problems in the US. 85% of that 38000 he wants to argue about... Blacks and Mexicans.
Not the guns
I'm doing my part
Your great man 🎉
I still have a bullet lodged in my back from being shot in the chest 52 years ago. I didn't know the round had hit me until I saw blood on my shirt. 13 years ago I was shot again. It felt like someone had punched me in the chest.
why people keep shooting you in the chest? are you beefy?
@@cultcargo HA HA!
@@danvickers2170 seems yes if you didnt feel bullet hit in your pec
@@cultcargo I'm just one of those people who have bad luck. I also had a truck fall off an overpass and land on top of me while driving underneath it, I was attacked by a redneck gang and almost beaten to death and I got caught in a tropical storm in my sailboat and lost at sea for 6 days. I was drug by a car by the people who robbed me who then ran over me. Although that was partially my fault as I jumped halfway into the car to fight it out with the thieves. Got a brain injury when work truck rolled down a mountain in Colorado and and crashed. I Got a bad concussion fighting 3 muggers in Cambodia. Thanks for asking.
Before you criticize the Doc's stance on guns watch the whole video. At the end he says our "focus needs to be on education rather than restriction."
He's not trying to make this a political video, he's acknowledging that it is a contentious issue.
No one even liked your comment
Yet he parrots false anti-2a talking points
Maybe he should have opened with non-political statements.
1. I am a gun owner.
2. I am Canadian so while i acknowledge the 2A in the US, I am not subject to it or bound to it. I can consider gun ownership outside of that legal doctrine because it does not pertain to me.
@@ChrisRaynorMD Why are you repeating anti-gun political nonsense? "Gun violence" isn't a thing, either.
Next video: how painful is an arrow wound
That 1-10 pain ranking reminded me of the time I had an open nerve on a tooth. Hurt so bad I was lying down and barely twitching being delirious. I had thought of jumping in front of a car to end the pain but the thing that stopped me was if I survived it would be double pain. Now that I look back on it I wonder if that was about a 9 or 10.
It depends on the bullet you get hit with. 12 gauge hallow point slug and buck shot has a very high lethality! 9mm actually has a relatively high survival rate. I carry a 45 with JHP 185gr 45 Super 1,300 FPS 710ft-lbs of force and stops within 9 inches of gel and most 45 ACP rounds have a high lethality because it s not only bigger but doesn’t just zip through but really dump its energy as it enters causing more trauma!
The big Tex clip is iconic
I may not have been shot, but I have one of the most painful diseases know to science yet have a lack of facial expression when it comes to pain bc I am autistic. I have been dismissed about my pain being a 10 by MANY doctors.
I was shot in my upper thigh by a .380 when I was 19. At first I thought I bumped my thigh on something after running. When I looked down I seen the blood and noticed I was shot. It just felt like a burning sensation and as if someone gave me a frog. Luckily the bullet didn’t penetrate deep and I was able to get it out with a plier to avoid the hospital. That was a dumb move but I’m glad it didn’t get infected and healed ok.
Easier to get a gun vs driver's license? I guarantee she's never filed out a 4473 form 😂😂
Yea I had that out of body experience, I think at some point my parents had a car accident. We all nearly passed away from it even me. I saw my own body as I float. Only to get dragged back in. All I could remember the last part not the car accident itself nor the day and year it happened. I personally have no lasting damages after it soo.
It's weird this video comes out today and my friend, younger then me got shot in the leg ,and in the same day another one dies form a head shot
So many things in the video that are correct but not quite. . .
1) Bullets don't yaw (become unstable) in the air until very very far down range when they have lost a tremendous amount of velocity. For instance a 143 grain 6.5 Creedmoor rifle round will begin to become unstable at around 1300 yards down range. Alternatively, when they strike something, like in the case of this video, a body, or limb of a tree when hunting, the bullet can immediately begin to tumble and cause more damage in the body but is also losing velocity and accuracy immediately.
In the video, the graphic shown is showing the bullets path and yaw through tissue not air causing a Temporary and the Permanent wound channel.
2) Type of gun isn't "the" biggest factor in most cases. They type of bullet and the specific design/construction of that bullet is a huge factor. For instance a full metal jacket 9mm will easily pass through the body with little temporary or permanent cavity tissue destruction where as a jacketed hollow point defensive round (like Law enforcement use) will dump all its energy into the target and make a huge temporary and permanent wound cavity.
3) Gun Violence. . . "Squarely young people in their twenties". . . and the main demographic group is Criminals and Gang Violence. Legal gun owners are not even part of the issue.
4) "It's easier to get a gun than a drivers license" Not true if you've ever had to get a drivers license and buy a gun you know the difference. Look into it th-cam.com/video/-l4s901oOUY/w-d-xo.html
5) Great videos Doc, keep em coming!
3:00 So, 10 is basically trigeminal neuralgia and cluster headache. 😱😖🤕
Does leaving the needle in the bone reinforce or strengthen the bone against tensional or shear force to the bone just like in reinforced concrete. i cn not find any video explain this anywhere thank you
"It's easier to get a gun than a license"
I would disagree with that. You have to fill out a form with all your identifying information and then they search a federal database for any criminal records that bar you from ownership. You basically just have to prove you live in that state and legally identify yourself. Break anything in the 4473 form and you can never legally own firearms. Which Includes but is not limited to: Straw Purchases, Felony charges of a potential year or more - even if you served less, if you are a fugitive from justice, if you have drug addictions, have been adjudicated as mentally defective, Dishonorably Discharged, if you have restraining orders of any kind or domestic violence charges, if you have renounced your citizenship, or if you are an illegal alien. That's just the things from the 4473.
You can never get those rights back. You could do one of those at 18, realize the error of your ways and become a monk or some shit and live like a hermit in the woods for the next 50+ years like a Disney princess, and you still can't own them. You can get a DUI at triple the legal limit and get your license back in a year. Even if a license was easier, it's still far harder to lose your ability to drive than to own a gun legally. Also you need a license to buy a gun.
As well, some stats in this are misleading. The "38,000 a year dead from gun violence" includes suicide, which I wouldn't consider a violent crime. I don't consider it right, but It's self inflicted. They aren't going out and harming someone else, and those account for almost 27,000 of the 48,000 in 2022. That is no small segment of the total number.
Except private sales are legal and require none of those checks
Is it like “Spinal Tap,” the movie?
Take that pain up to “11”!!
Someone once mistook a birthmark for a gunshot scar, being disappointed to hear that, no, I’ve very, very fortunately never been shot…
I got shot in a hunting accident when young. I was a far off ricochet not direct but it was scary and did sting a lot lol. I do not remember how many little lead shots were in me but they did leave them in me. I wonder how much that lead ended up affecting me.
I have a "holy phone case".... took 2 shots to the heart.....stopped by the titanium phone case...... Still happy to be able to post a message .....
Shock still hurt like hell, still nothing like getting knee surgery without anesthesia :))....
Wouldn't want to get a penetrative shot ever, because that would be quite hurtfull.
I had my calf nearly taken off by 3 inch magnum 12 gauge 00 buckshot from 6 foot away. Felt like a toddler kicked me in the leg initially. Didn't feel pain until the paramedic removed my boot and even then it was only about a 2 or 3. The aftermath of my gallbladder surgery was significantly more painful.
I was shot in July 2023 at point blank range in my left hip. The initial shot didn't hurt but the bullet shattered my pelvis so anytime the nurses picked me up to transfer me from one bed to another for x-rays (which was often) it was a 20 on the 1-10 pain scale. So was trying to crawl into the car to get to the hospital. Now I have a metal rod from my hip to my knee which bothers my knee still. Having multiple blood transfusions is not exactly fun either when you have hidden internal bleeding and they speed up the transfusion rate. Neither is learning to walk again when they only give you 1 crutch cuz you also have a broken right clavicle from a fall and dont want you putting any pressure on. Being stuck on the trauma floor for weeks not being able to go outside and smoke sucks too along with the hosital food was like being in jail with a crappy cell mate that yells all day after surviving it all 😂
Shit times, brother. Scumbags and Hospitals
Glad you survived it.
Greetings from St Louis.
Always be aware
Always Be Carrying
@jmjones7897 Greetings from Cleveland. You have to carry these days like it's the wild wild west especially in major cities
@jeffrobinson6987 Shit can pop off anywhere.
No reason to worry
Just be good Boy Scout
Be prepared
Same as it ever was
As someone with a good understanding of firearms and ballistics, I found the video informative, highlighting the importance of respecting firearms. It effectively explained bullet behavior, serving as a useful educational tool.
Regarding the assertion about military firearms causing more pain or damage, it might not be entirely accurate. Military ammunition, mainly full metal jacket (FMJ), is often the standard, but it has a higher failure rate, merely creating a hole of its diameter. Exceptions like 7n6 and m855a1 exist, which are reliable and devastating. In contrast, the civilian market offers higher-quality ammunition like hollow points and soft points, which expand, tumble, or fragment more reliably, causing increased damage and are often far more devastating. However, it's worth noting that the majority of gun violence involves inexpensive FMJ ammunition, often surplus military rounds, making direct comparisons between military and civilian ammunition somewhat less applicable; this also suggests that injuries incurred in the military and in gun violence are likely more comparable.
Apologies for the lengthy explanation, but I wanted to offer a thorough perspective.
Overall, minor gripe aside, I appreciate the valuable work you do and the knowledge you share.
At 16yo I caught the Forrest Gump wound right in the left cheek. The round was a .22. It felt like getting shot by a pellet gun. It missed my tail bone by 1.5 inches and the base of my urethra by 1.5 to 2 inches. The hit was a ricochet. My only reaction was saying ouch. the doctor that saw me in the hospital said that I could not have picked a better place to get hit because there is only muscle there.
In 2004 I fell from ten feet off of a ladder and broke my wrist in 19 places. Weird as it sounds getting shot hurt less than breaking my wrist.
It's different everywhere here you just need an ID and 2 forms of address bills or junk mail for proof of address. Once your current residence and age is proven you can buy what you want and however much you want so long as you're 21yo. So she is technically right and wrong just depends on where you live.
I'm fina find out. 😳
Thank god i never got shot ! I had a broken hand with 2 broken nuckles it was very painful and got kidney stones
Boy, I wonder why this is on my youtube front page, on the 17th of July. Hmmm
Not being able to pee. And ending up in the emegency room was the worst pain for me. More than being stabbed or a decent toothache.
But falling about 40 feet or so. Hurt so bad, i couldnt move for a hour. But it shook off in s day.
@ChrisRaynorMD You and Garand thumb should do a crossover! (Also, I had a shattered tib/fib fracture displaced from a simple fall as I have VERY minor OI, and I then got an infection, and now it is dehisced and I am going into surgery (3rd in a month, 5th ever) to clean it out and close it as I also have minor necrosis, so wish me luck!
Got my fingers crossed for you! Good luck!
@@ChrisRaynorMD I am actually only 13 but love surgery (watch your vids as well as actual surgeries) and want to go into ortho.
@@ChrisRaynorMD It went amazing! I now how a sealed wound!
Ah saw Garand Thumb and Kentucky Ballistics :D
Since I am a moderate, and believe guns are a human right, and healthcare is a human right: doctors best shut up and fixed up those GSWs! I got rights.
Yes. Insane.
Lets all say thanks to Tex Grebner for taking the hit and posting that embarrassing, but educational video