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@@joeshmoe9233 So what does that have to do with GPUs? AMD already all but confirmed they aren't really going to try to compete in the flagship GPU range anymore, so Nvidia already won.
I definitely disagree with you saying that the 5070 will be ok with 12GB of VRAM. 12GB doesn’t cut it for a 70 class GPU anymore. Ideally, the 5070 should come with 16GB and the 5060 with 12GB. That would definitely make consumers happy and would result in way better sales and profit for Nvidia.
when you have a monopoly you don't even need to get that much improvements on your entire products, all you need is "incremental" improvements on the lowest-middle tier, and make a huge one with their high tier thus justfying the bullshit prices on that tier particulary, so that people will be more leaned toward the high tier GPU instead of the others since it won't be that much of an improvements..
I agree. Radeon seems to be losing market share, and nvidia hasn’t been a consumer friendly company for a long time. The idea that they will release 50 series cards cheaper than 40 series is a pipe dream.
@@nawabifaissal9625Yeah you do have to make improvements on low-middle cards too and not just incremental steps otherwise follks will keep using their old gpu-s and will buy nothing new.
Well they can go down. Mining isn't as hot as it used to be. Component shortages was a thing a while ago. Covid was a thing a while ago. Nvidia can easily afford to make less profit and still please shareholders etc.
@@ScrotieMcBooger-z5hwell, that’s only if you buy that. If you dont purchase 3k 5090 it wont be 3k….4090 was pretty easy to get so its not going to be different therefore wont be 3k
Hi guys i am new to buying gpu. So, when the gpu launches would you be able to buy launch edition or other companies like as rock, zotac, msi variants also release at the same time?
Not a chance Nvidia will be lowering prices. They'd be undercutting their own last gen products which already sell for high markups. Just look at price of a 3090 today. They'll either keep the prices flat (and take a big margin) or increase them further.
@@extremeheat7947 the point of next gen is to replace last gen. There wouldn't be much to undercut left as they'd be mostly sold off ahead of launch. If it costs them less to produce margins could be just as high.
Uh you realize they are not making 40 series forever right? Why would they care if they are undercutting a product they no longer produce anymore? If you think they continue to produce 40 series while launching 50 series, you unfortunately dont know what youre talking about
I have skipped 40 sereis and I hope what you said is for real . As a 3070 owner I can say best thing nvidia can do with its 50 series is being heavy on vram. its the main reason I did not go for 4070 aswell.
@@BridgeTROLL777 I can't see a 10gb. It will be 8, 12, 16 increments. 5060 will probably be 8gb, and that means 5060 ti either needs a different die (probably a crippled 5070) or will be in 8gb or 16 gb variants. Releasing a 5060 ti early on makes almost no sense. But that doesn't stop Ngreedia.
It’s that time of year again for TH-camrs to start throwing out “this could be the best generation yet” and “ this will be a good boost in performance over last generation” I feel like I’m stuck in a time loop. Well no duh. I would hope it’s better. I’m so tired of these over hyped, over priced sales gimmicks
12GB for a 5070 is not OK. This card will release in 2025 and many people will skip AT LEAST 1 Gen, maybe 2. That means this card has to last roughly until 2030. 12GB for 1440p in 2030? Idk man.
It does suck that it's been rumored that it has been rumored to only have 12gb, but if has double the bandwidth that will make up in a big way for only having 12gb of ram.
When you said that 12 GB was OK and will be OK I stopped watching the video. It's so obvious that it's not and won't be that I see no reason to keep listening.
New games use 8gb even with RT, so it can be optimized. Only 1 game doesn't work with 8gb on max details (RE4 remake), graphics look even worse than RE8..
12 gb Is NOT enough for 70 class cards . these cards are coming out in a year + . Games already use around 10-12 gb on 1440p with rt. Some even use 11gb on 1080p Max with Rt and Frame gen . ( source, hardware unboxed ram benchmarks ) . Nvidea should wait for 3gb ram chips so they can ad 18gb on the 5070 if they want to keep a 192 bit buss.
Based on what they did with previous xx60 cards, maybe we'll get a clamshell 24Gb version of the 5060Ti. Wouldn't be any visible improvement over the 12Gb card in gaming, but would be very attractive for budget production and ai workloads.
Yo guys its the $699 leaker RTX 50 info. No GPU are costing $700 this time bbudd Edited I must mean $999 for the upcoming 5080. $1600 or higher for the 5090. All chips this generation will have no G6X, the way nvidia will achieve higher performance is just relying on the clocks to attain a generation jump in tiers with higher or similar Cache
@@magic874 $699 cause this hardware leaker and no I am not the hardware leaker graphically is the attitude problem he is trying to say the 5080 will be $899 from the video. no it won't it will start at $1000 or $1100 for 5080 then 599 for the 5070 whilst 4060 will be around 400 only when it's a nvidia guranteed generational uplift from the 40, don't forgot 5060 will ship with 8GB G6 this time around.
Bro u have got to stop acting like redgamingtech is a reliable source. I swear I remember him getting real scoops a few years ago but the last couple years it’s been nothing but 1. Repeating things others have already said 2. “Leaking” stuff that is so tepid that it’s useless, a lot of “this is possible but my one source disagrees with my other source” or 3. Stating things that are obvious. I cannot remember the last time I seen him actually be the first person to leak a document/slide or some exclusive tangible information that is correct.
I really hope you're right on $700 for the 70ti, it's sickening to say that sounds stomachable, but the industry is garbage & I'd pick up those specs at that price
people must have been insane to say a $899 for RTX 5080 is insane value for money. Like WTF? Even at $799 it is way too much. I am going to skip it till price drop to 1000 series level after the great depression hit.
Not going to happen and you'd be waiting forever. RTX 4080 prices have largely stayed around the $900-1000 retail. Factor in GDDR7, TSMC price hikes and general inflation and yea.. Nvidia also isn't in a rush to dramatically lower them either. Their Ai cards and business are booming and everything else is taking the back seat. They are an Ai company now. We're just getting scraps of scraps and paying for it.
The process node will be a massive factor in determining the performance of the RTX 50 Series. Since nothing has been confirmed yet, TSMC 3nm is still a possibility. It's definitely possible that the data centre chips and gaming GPUs could use a different process node despite being on the same architecture. If they do go for a TSMC 3nm node, it will likely be a custom 3N node to maximise the performance of the 50 Series.
In his last video he said the B770 will possibly match or beat the 4070 at $350. If these prices are correct for the 5000 series and battle mage, then the B770 will be under cutting Nvidia at the low end.
Nvidia is still insulting us with their 12GB on the 70. With the explosion in Stable Diffusion and AI, anything less than 16GB is a slap in the face. Gaming isn't the only thing that a graphics card is used for. There's a ton of 8GB cards that simply don't cut it anymore with modern games, and to be future proof, 16GB is the absolute minimum. AMD understood that, Nvidia just doesn't care. And no, 12GB is not enough at 1440p, some games fill that up very quickly and require more. I was very much wanting to buy an RTX 4070, but because of the 12GB VRAM, I will not. And about that 5060 Ti, Nvidia is again doing their shenanigans like they did with the 4060 Ti. If Nvidia continues to mock the consumers with their silly cards and insane prices and premiums, I will move on to AMD.
i am curious cause i can play games in 1440p on full ultra and even on TV in 4k so wich games youre playing using that much V-RAM ? (using a 3080TI with 12GB v-ram)
Why would the new 5080 with 35% more performance, lower power consumption, more features and double the ray tracing and AI capability come in at $899 when 4080's are selling for $949 now, as a two year old product? Also why would 5070 Ti sell for $699 when it outperforms the 4080 by 35%? Even more so, why would it be priced at that when the 4070 Ti Super is going for $779, and it's going to beat that by over 40%. Who sells a 40% better product over 10% cheaper while still selling the old product side by side? The scenarios are simple: there's huge discounts on the 4070 Super Ti and 4080 to come at latest in October/November to clear out stock, which won't work as people will just wait until the next gen is released. Just like we saw with RDNA2 stock still being shifted. The 5000 series will be overpriced by hundreds of dollars over these estimates to begin with, just like the 4000 series Nvidia and 7000 series Radeons were. Or those prices are hopelessly wrong.
40 series was priced to keep 30 series competitive because they had too much 30 series to still sell off because of crypto crash. 40 series will have time to sell off and have low inventory of equivalent cards by the time 50 series comes out.
In my country 4070 TI Super is $1200, and no price drop visible in the next year or two. The 50 series will be horribly overpriced here as well, I think the sales are going to fail in general
What I call a good generation of gpus is not just performance, but cost.And unfortunately there's people out there still on 10, 20 and 30 series GPUs, due to Nvidias crazy high prices.🤔
if 5070ti is more powerful than 7900xtx and is 700 dollars, I would buy it. I was not going to pay 800 dollars for a 12 gb 7900xtx in early 2023. 4080 was being scalped as well. so I got 7900xtx at 1000 instead. I do wanna try DLSS as last time I only tried it with dlss 2 on my 3070ti. If nvidia has good prices I would go back.
Bro dont Upgrade like that from 3070ti to xtx to 5070ti ... Incremental upgrades are trash if you have a xtx I would hold on to that and wait for at least 60 series
The Big 3 AMD, Nvidia, and Intel don't design products specifically for consumers or gamers. They design their products for the corporate and institutional customers. The consumer/gamer parts are the leftovers, scraps, byproducts, and defects from the actual product. For them it's just a marketing exercise convincing people to buy what is essentially junk. So contrary to what people say about Nvidia focusing on AI and neglecting the consumer market, next generation should have ample supply. The reason is because Nvidia is producing alot of high end products for their corporate and institutional customers. Defects and errors happened at a relatively fixed rate so if you're producing a lot of product then you should also have a lot of defects and scraps that get sold to the consumer market.
I am curious as to how much heat these things generate. My game room already turns into a sauna. These cards are still overpriced and I am positive the price will quickly go up as they sell out. Looks like I will be sticking with my 6900xt, at least for now. It still plays games pretty good.
For the 5070 to again only have 12gb of vram is gonna be bad. That means the 5060 is only gonna have 8gb. Why does nvidia keep doing the same mistakes.
Nah 12gb card in 2024/25 is a pass. No reason for them to make new cards with the same or better performance as the 4070 ti super that they made with 16gb after it flopping with 12gb, limiting it's performance over past gen.
What bums me out about the 5080 is the 16gb of vram. I'm not the kind of person to upgrade every other year. I want a build to last me at least 7 years and I'm not willing to spend 5090 money. Hopefully 5080ti has 24 gigs
You failed to take into account Nvidia's need to make enough of that sweet, sweet leather-jacket money for Jensen. Folks were getting all excited about the Super cards and their estimated price points - but prices are still too high, IMO, even when we factor in inflation. I'm cautiously optimistic that they will *actually* have learned some sort of lesson from the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if a 5090 would be launching for close to 2,000 bucks.
I built a second 7900XTX system this spring banking on the idea that we won't have a significantly faster and better value raster GPU than the 7900XTX until the 5080/5090 drops in price most likely sometime in 2026, by which time "hopefully" RDNA5 will be right around the corner, so the whole 5000 series is still basically a wash from a value perspective.
a 5070 with 12GB RAM would be utterly pathetic. Recent tests from Hardware Unboxed, Daniel Owens and others have shown that 12GB is not enough for some games in 1440p. That is as of today and there will probably many more within the next few years.
I was happy to upgrade from a 2070 to a 4080 in 2022. Wasnt happy about the $1199, but the card is phenomenal. $900 for the 5080 is a steal comparitively
I kinda upgrade every other gen, been looking forward to the 50 series so much. Currently running a 3060 and will be upgrading to the 5090 or 5080 depending on how ling I want to wait to build my new pc lol
This might be the first generation where some of the lower cards are capable of actually decent peformance at 4k/ultra, but damn that 5060ti looks tempting as a 1440p gamer... if the price is to be believed. It'll be interesting if AMD manages to sort out their RT performance this gen, I still don't see them coming close to DLSS with FSR anytime soon though, even XeSS is better than FSR.
30 series was on a SAMSUNG node 40 series switched backt to TSMC and could have easily dominated but they held back the performance and kept the price or even increased it, named the 4050 a 4060 etc. So there is so much free performance left. Unless they again sell a 8gb card with performance of a 4070/4070 super
Upgrading from my good old GTX 1070 MSI Armor OC to a RTX 5070 is going to be an interesting experience for me..... I've been pondering how much i should spend as i upgrade every 4-5 years or More when it comes to my PC..... I just can't justify spending 1,000$ on a "X"070" class GPU.... or a 80 class. Its just too much..... The MOST expensive 5090Ti Super should be 1,200$ and everything else in at least 200$ increments down from there......
Based on past experience, NVIDIA will adjust the naming... so what you have as 5060TI, will be 5070... your 5070 will become 5080, and 5080 will become 5090.... NVIDIA is not doing charity... if they feel performance is there, they will capitalize..
I'm looking at the 4070 Ti Super but can't afford nearly 800 for it, hoping the release of the 50 series will bring the pricing down in the 40 series.....Hoping
I'm vibing on my 4070 ti super. if this comes to pass hell yeah if not no shocker. I just don't see those prices being real and I think its exceptionally dumb to wait for the 50 series.
Holding out to replace my 6900xt with a 5080 unless AMD, or Intel, does something nice. I need some extra oomf after getting a 4k 144hz monitor but I normally always skip a generation of graphics cards so I feel like I'm getting a solid improvement after upgrading.
5060 Ti looks like it's on par with the 3080 10gb. If so, despite the relative weakness of the 4070 (non super) that means we're back to roughly one tier = one generation across 3080 series to 5060 Ti, and 3070 to 4060 Ti. 3080 Ti to 4070 Super also matched that. Which is STILL kind of low, compared to previous generational jumps. This s hows that outside the 4090, the 40 series was a dud generation, just like the 20 series before the "super" refresh. If those pricings are estimated performances are relatively accurate, I might have to eat my "Never buying Nvidia again" words and consider a 5070 Ti, unless RDNA 4 is much better than expected (or much cheaper than expected). But 12gb on 5070? That's 3070's vram limitations all over again, despite the faster DDR7. 1080 with ray tracing is hitting 12gb already, let alone 1440. Does Nvidia want to deliberately design the 5070 a 1080 ultra and low-med quality 1440 card? Is this a scummy "planned obsolescence" thing? I also cannot see Nvidia being this reasonable on price given how much of their higher end silicon is going to be targeted to the AI market. I can see RDNA 4 being cheap, below these estimated prices, but cannot see it getting the bump to ray tracing it desperately needs to be competitive. Nvidia looks like they'll be playing the NGreedia card yet again, AMD sadly looks like it will be NGreedia - 15% yet again. That isn't anything to be excited about. It shouldn't be making game developers happy either, as only the wealthy will be bothering with AAA Titles for yet another generation. I can but hope I'm wrong.
Just one simple example online - the latest Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Has been using 13783 Vram in one of the zones, in 1440p And this is 2024... imagine what the future games are gonna be like. So 12GB vram is already NOW not enough. The 5000x cards better be atleast 16 GB and better 24GB vram, since its a 4k generation.
My 3080 Ti has been good but it's time for an upgrade. I was planning on shelling out for a RTX 5090 this one but being able to keep the 80 Ti upgrade streak going is nicer on my wallet. 👍
the prices could be realistic after some Ti or Super chips release and that is probably a year after but rn I see no reason why it should be that „cheap“ rn. there is no competition at the moment and Nvidia saw how much people are ready to buy 4-digit priced cards. I would like to have a 5070Ti refresh with 16gb vram to replace my 3080. I like the efficiency aspect but time will tell.
I've become numb to watching so many 5090 rumor videos for many months now. Everything is so vague because no one really knows anything. Nvidia is doing a great job keeping secrets within itself. When the time comes I'm sure Nvidia will make huge announcement that can't be missed even for those hiding under a rock. I got my 4090 on day one and to me that feels like a very long time ago. At this point I'm going to buy whatever the fastest card they will sell on day one whenever it launches.
If Euro prices aren't gonna explode and there's no paper launch / mining boom induced shortage, probably gonna put my NVDA gains towards a 5070Ti and for the first time in my life have a blazing fast gpu!
Rtx 50 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 60 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 70 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 80 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 90 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 100 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 110 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" Rtx 120 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" ...................................... Rtx n+1 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever" This sh*t never gets old, and i hate to listen to this sentence whenever anything new comes into the market, i mean obviously.
This will be the best since 10 series because i want nvidia to send me my media sample to review. In my eyes youtube reviews list a lot of credibility shilling for these corporations.
im already waiting...but the prices in my country (brazil) is a little too insane so ill probably have to wait a little longer...5070 or 5070 ti depending on the prices.
They kept the x070 series with low Vram intentionally. The x070 series is basically a scuffed sacrifice series for marketing reasons, is a strategy sale card. By cutting Vram, they force to either buy a higher series if you are willing to pay the price due to vram reasons, or going lower in the class tier for higher Vram, like it happened with 3060/12gbVram. Basically getting a ton of sales from the crappy tiers, but also high tiers. So, either way, it's a double win for them. AMD strategy is similar, except they give you more Vram so you can pick any low tier, as most have 16gb Vram these days. So they have high sales on any tier class, also a strategy win for them to sell low tier cards because you will compare price with nvidia cards Vram. But that doesn't mean they gave 20GB Vram to 7800xt class to put nvidia to shame, and show their greediness. They are very similar in sale strategy, with a small exception in price greediness.
4090 is currently (04.09.2024) a bit over 2000€ here. During krypto mining highs and scalping it was way over 3000€. So i call BS, atleast in my area. I expect the 5090 to be 3-5k, so not even close to be affordable for the blue collar worker. Germany here.
Just bought a 4070 Ti super didn't want to wait until the 5000 super series are being released and need it now for my work. What i do miss in the video is the power usage.
Hope the price of the 5080 is under 1K, if it is I'm getting it for a 4K build, wonder if the 5090 is under 1.2K, if that's the case i guess going wilde with a 5K build would be a better option since i upgrade every 6-8 years
@@Oliver-sn4be Thats what i was thinking but, no i haven't got cach to burn but i wish i did but i was more thinking about selling the rtx 4070 and getting a 5070 but i dont think ill bother tbf
I just bought a 4070 super and sold my 6700 XT. I figure I'll get a lot of benefit from the upgrade vs waiting 6 - 9 months and then buying a 5070 or RX 8800 XT.
@@SigmaHuman69 I don't think I can truthfully that it was 100% worth it without the nagging feeling that i should have just been more patient. While my performance is undoubtably far better, it was a lot of money to drop on something that has a lot of competition. I'm also somewhat disappointed I didn't get at least 16GB VRAM. RT in AAA single player games is what sealed the deal though. There were too many games that I have been putting off playing because I was waiting for a better card.
the greatest generation.... more like buy the 4090 when the price drops cause you know damn well Jensen will price the 5080 at $1200.00 making the price:performance terrible. Every new generation of NVIDIA cards will make the last gen better because of how the used market works
I think this lineup so far is brutal. Unless you want the 5060 or have a milio ln dollars to get the 5090, all the cards in between are almost pointless to at least say that it's the best lineup since the 1000 series. With the 4000, you could get a 4070ti to beat last gen 3090ti This gen, you need to get the 5090 to beat the 4090 by these leaks so.... What's the point if you have to spend $2500 in back to back years to upgrade??
You know what doesn't cut it....the fact that NVIDIA still have not put DP 2.1 on these new cards. The fact that there are ultra wide panels...Like the Samsung 59inch G9 Neo...thats requires more bandwidth from the cable but cannot because NVIDIA...still use DP 1.4. My friend has the 4090. And its limited to 120hz @1440p....he cannot run full 2160 on the panel. Because bandwidth limit is 32.4gbps
I mean the thought process of the mass majority goes like this: RTX 4070 ti super about 880 euros or so. RX 7900 gre at around 550 for me it was at least. Both are similar in performance. +, - nothing essentially, except for those two game. Value and performance aren't quite 1:1 but of course you would pay 300 more for the same shit. To be honest, i'm more impressed of amd running RT so well despite it being a NVIDIA favoring feature. I remember that shitty NVIDIA physx bullshit tanking amd more than RT would have right now. To me the pricing of AMD just makes more sense. I bet nvidia could just sugar coat their gpus and people just buy it anyway at this point. I'm certain that AMD can do better but NVIDIA has just won the Apple of the gpu market. I will keep getting AMD because i get similar or the same for paying less. That is my reason for getting AMD products. I went from Radeon HD 7950 to the 580, 6600 and now the 7900 gre. I'm happy with AMD. NVIDIA just feels too dystopian to me.
I will wait till 5070TI come's as i have a 3080TI i wont go for anything lower than 4080 performance... xD else its not a upgrade worthy of my money. But only if the prices are decent else i might look at what AMD is gonna bring to the table. Lucky me i can wait and chill out and compare what the cards will look like and do, cause my card is still good enough to play ultra on 1440p xD
My predictions 5090>$2000 (30-50% better than the 4090, street price will be higher) 5080>$1000 (4090 like performance with less vram, street price will be higher) 5070 TI>$800 (slightly better than a 4080 super, street price will be higher) 5070>$550 (4080 like performance, again you will rarely find it for this price) 5060 TI>$429 (4070 like performance, I expect that you will find for this price) 5060>$350( Between the 4060 Ti and 4070, you will find it for this price)
Nvidia sells a $400 to build card for $20k to AI companies because they are the only option. They will sell these cards for a much as possible without tanking sales. If AMD has nothing to compete at these price ranges these will deff be more expensive.
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@@GraphicallyChallenged I’m holding out for the 5080. I bought a cheap gpu to do my first build, now it’s time to upgrade. From a 3060-12gb.
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I will wait for the 10k series 😮
Use Windows activation script. Don't bother wasting your money.
Better performance, lower prices. I must be watching a video from 1985 because I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen anymore.
It does if you're trying to put the final nail into your competitors' coffin.
@@joeshmoe9233 So what does that have to do with GPUs? AMD already all but confirmed they aren't really going to try to compete in the flagship GPU range anymore, so Nvidia already won.
Indeed
@@joeshmoe9233 AMD is bringing h100 competition and outperforming the whole market in cpus, they dont care at all :D
It happened both with the GTX 10 series and the RTX 30 series, at least if you judge those series by MSRP.
I definitely disagree with you saying that the 5070 will be ok with 12GB of VRAM. 12GB doesn’t cut it for a 70 class GPU anymore. Ideally, the 5070 should come with 16GB and the 5060 with 12GB. That would definitely make consumers happy and would result in way better sales and profit for Nvidia.
Problem is Nvidia are on top last time I heard, which means......they don't care
Exactly
exactly. it’s shameful to still be adding 12gb to a 70 card. AGAIN.
looks like somebody needs Amd in their life...😎
@@poocruncha3266 nah im good
I call BS on those estimated prices.
Okay it’s not just me.
People online (TH-camrs etc): this card is a great price for 800!
Me looking online for the card: 2100
when you have a monopoly you don't even need to get that much improvements on your entire products, all you need is "incremental" improvements on the lowest-middle tier, and make a huge one with their high tier thus justfying the bullshit prices on that tier particulary, so that people will be more leaned toward the high tier GPU instead of the others since it won't be that much of an improvements..
I agree. Radeon seems to be losing market share, and nvidia hasn’t been a consumer friendly company for a long time. The idea that they will release 50 series cards cheaper than 40 series is a pipe dream.
Unless AMD's new GPUs are advanced enough to compete
Not gonna hold my breath on that tho
@@nawabifaissal9625Yeah you do have to make improvements on low-middle cards too and not just incremental steps otherwise follks will keep using their old gpu-s and will buy nothing new.
Prices go up, not down..
when you realise the rtx 3090Ti was 1499.99 when it was released. Shame on nvidia. Now seeing the rtx 5090 at 1599.99 sorry 1999.99
The 4080 super went down. Here's hoping the trend continues. 😅
@@davidfox326 lol the X3D and super is gonna save our wallets now
You tell em 4090 sold for 2k and sold Nvidia ain't giving us no discounts
Well they can go down. Mining isn't as hot as it used to be. Component shortages was a thing a while ago. Covid was a thing a while ago. Nvidia can easily afford to make less profit and still please shareholders etc.
The 5090 will be $2000 no doubt.
3000 in actuality due to scalping
@@ScrotieMcBooger-z5hwell, that’s only if you buy that. If you dont purchase 3k 5090 it wont be 3k….4090 was pretty easy to get so its not going to be different therefore wont be 3k
@@ScrotieMcBooger-z5h no that’s not a huge problem anymore
Hi guys i am new to buying gpu. So, when the gpu launches would you be able to buy launch edition or other companies like as rock, zotac, msi variants also release at the same time?
@@weegamery2592Yep, u will be able to buy the card from other companies, cus they get PCB earlier.
Alternative title: no new news so I’m going to get an older video and just word it differently
Not a chance Nvidia will be lowering prices. They'd be undercutting their own last gen products which already sell for high markups. Just look at price of a 3090 today. They'll either keep the prices flat (and take a big margin) or increase them further.
They will increase them, I have no doubt about it.
Increase the prices, obviously.
@@extremeheat7947 the point of next gen is to replace last gen. There wouldn't be much to undercut left as they'd be mostly sold off ahead of launch. If it costs them less to produce margins could be just as high.
I disagree with your premise. The RTX 4080 beats the RTX 3090 in nearly every real world test and was 200 USD less on MSRP.
Uh you realize they are not making 40 series forever right? Why would they care if they are undercutting a product they no longer produce anymore? If you think they continue to produce 40 series while launching 50 series, you unfortunately dont know what youre talking about
I have skipped 40 sereis and I hope what you said is for real . As a 3070 owner I can say best thing nvidia can do with its 50 series is being heavy on vram. its the main reason I did not go for 4070 aswell.
Not likely happening, there is no competition. 5070 will be 12gb 5060 will be 10 probably.
@@BridgeTROLL777 5070 might get 16gb, if they stay with gddr6x. but if they go with gddr7 then 12gb
@@BridgeTROLL777 I can't see a 10gb. It will be 8, 12, 16 increments. 5060 will probably be 8gb, and that means 5060 ti either needs a different die (probably a crippled 5070) or will be in 8gb or 16 gb variants.
Releasing a 5060 ti early on makes almost no sense. But that doesn't stop Ngreedia.
We're in the same boat. I have a 3070 and I'm skipping the 4070 for its lack of VRAM.
@@AndyViant Nobody will buy a 8GB card, it's insufficient for modern games and high resolutions.
Dude should change channel name to "wasteYourTime".
"chronically challenged"
@@haidar6280 "Mentally challenged"💀
Been thinking the same thing since I first saw this channel, copying GamerMelds cadenc. Click bate titles with videos that provide no useful info
@@haidar6280 he’s “mentally challenged”
Yeah, all they do is clickbait the same information that Moors Law is Dead or Red’s Gaming Tech release.
I am still using a 2080, so i have skipped 2 generations. 50-Series will be my upgrade.
Same here I got an RTX 2080 TI. Hoping we won’t have to wait too much longer for the 50 series. Gaming in the winter is normally my main hobby.
still have a 980ti! but im looking at that 5080 for my next rig
@@LOVIATHAN1080! Should I upgrade finally?
@decade_of_dust8810 hope you saved up. Man those gpu feel like it going to be more pricy than the 4090
@@frankjr.3916 hell yaa
It’s that time of year again for TH-camrs to start throwing out “this could be the best generation yet” and “ this will be a good boost in performance over last generation” I feel like I’m stuck in a time loop. Well no duh. I would hope it’s better. I’m so tired of these over hyped, over priced sales gimmicks
12GB for a 5070 is not OK. This card will release in 2025 and many people will skip AT LEAST 1 Gen, maybe 2. That means this card has to last roughly until 2030. 12GB for 1440p in 2030? Idk man.
It does suck that it's been rumored that it has been rumored to only have 12gb, but if has double the bandwidth that will make up in a big way for only having 12gb of ram.
When you said that 12 GB was OK and will be OK I stopped watching the video. It's so obvious that it's not and won't be that I see no reason to keep listening.
New games use 8gb even with RT, so it can be optimized. Only 1 game doesn't work with 8gb on max details (RE4 remake), graphics look even worse than RE8..
8 gigs I fine tbh, so 12 gigs will defo be more then enough for another 4 years I imagine
@@kanta32100 play mw advanced warfare . It will cross 12 gb. Mostly depends on resolution.
12 gb Is NOT enough for 70 class cards . these cards are coming out in a year + . Games already use around 10-12 gb on 1440p with rt. Some even use 11gb on 1080p Max with Rt and Frame gen . ( source, hardware unboxed ram benchmarks ) . Nvidea should wait for 3gb ram chips so they can ad 18gb on the 5070 if they want to keep a 192 bit buss.
GDDR7 alone will force a price hike. I still think 50 series will be alarmingly expensive
Based on what they did with previous xx60 cards, maybe we'll get a clamshell 24Gb version of the 5060Ti. Wouldn't be any visible improvement over the 12Gb card in gaming, but would be very attractive for budget production and ai workloads.
Yo guys its the $699 leaker RTX 50 info. No GPU are costing $700 this time bbudd
Edited I must mean $999 for the upcoming 5080. $1600 or higher for the 5090. All chips this generation will have no G6X, the way nvidia will achieve higher performance is just relying on the clocks to attain a generation jump in tiers with higher or similar Cache
Not with that attitude!
Someone is pulling our chains .
A little bird told me it will be $699 for the 5060 8gb .
@@bobert866 Lmao😭😭😭
no competition, 100% going to be ridiculous prices
@@magic874 $699 cause this hardware leaker and no I am not the hardware leaker graphically is the attitude problem he is trying to say the 5080 will be $899 from the video. no it won't it will start at $1000 or $1100 for 5080 then 599 for the 5070 whilst 4060 will be around 400 only when it's a nvidia guranteed generational uplift from the 40, don't forgot 5060 will ship with 8GB G6 this time around.
LOL, he thinks Nvidia is going to lower prices (falling off chair LMAO)
Bro u have got to stop acting like redgamingtech is a reliable source. I swear I remember him getting real scoops a few years ago but the last couple years it’s been nothing but 1. Repeating things others have already said 2. “Leaking” stuff that is so tepid that it’s useless, a lot of “this is possible but my one source disagrees with my other source” or 3. Stating things that are obvious. I cannot remember the last time I seen him actually be the first person to leak a document/slide or some exclusive tangible information that is correct.
The odd number series are always the best
Same with windows versions.
I really hope you're right on $700 for the 70ti, it's sickening to say that sounds stomachable, but the industry is garbage & I'd pick up those specs at that price
Gotta love price anchoring...... /s
1080ti still going strong. These prices are ridiculous.
My 1080ti started Freezing in every game. I’ll miss you 1080ti😢
GTX 1080 here.
Just say youre poor
@@Fears-fl9vw change the thermal paste
@@theendurance underage
people must have been insane to say a $899 for RTX 5080 is insane value for money. Like WTF? Even at $799 it is way too much.
I am going to skip it till price drop to 1000 series level after the great depression hit.
Not going to happen and you'd be waiting forever. RTX 4080 prices have largely stayed around the $900-1000 retail. Factor in GDDR7, TSMC price hikes and general inflation and yea..
Nvidia also isn't in a rush to dramatically lower them either. Their Ai cards and business are booming and everything else is taking the back seat. They are an Ai company now. We're just getting scraps of scraps and paying for it.
@@hinchlikescake7592 this is true unfortunately gamers get short end of the stick and these prices is the norm from now on.
Probably what you want will never happen.
900 bucks will be a perfectly reasonable price, assuming it matches/beats the 4090
I guess thw problem is you are just broke at this point
The process node will be a massive factor in determining the performance of the RTX 50 Series. Since nothing has been confirmed yet, TSMC 3nm is still a possibility. It's definitely possible that the data centre chips and gaming GPUs could use a different process node despite being on the same architecture. If they do go for a TSMC 3nm node, it will likely be a custom 3N node to maximise the performance of the 50 Series.
If Nvidia doesn't even have serious competition, why they want to sell new gen cheaper than last gen?
In his last video he said the B770 will possibly match or beat the 4070 at $350.
If these prices are correct for the 5000 series and battle mage, then the B770 will be under cutting Nvidia at the low end.
Nvidia is still insulting us with their 12GB on the 70. With the explosion in Stable Diffusion and AI, anything less than 16GB is a slap in the face. Gaming isn't the only thing that a graphics card is used for. There's a ton of 8GB cards that simply don't cut it anymore with modern games, and to be future proof, 16GB is the absolute minimum. AMD understood that, Nvidia just doesn't care. And no, 12GB is not enough at 1440p, some games fill that up very quickly and require more. I was very much wanting to buy an RTX 4070, but because of the 12GB VRAM, I will not. And about that 5060 Ti, Nvidia is again doing their shenanigans like they did with the 4060 Ti. If Nvidia continues to mock the consumers with their silly cards and insane prices and premiums, I will move on to AMD.
I will just buy a 3090...I also love AI.
i am curious cause i can play games in 1440p on full ultra and even on TV in 4k so wich games youre playing using that much V-RAM ? (using a 3080TI with 12GB v-ram)
@@Moondarkie He is an AI guy just like me. Vram is the most important for AI...
@@xXXEnderCraftXXx I don't like the 90 series, way too much power consumption.
Why would the new 5080 with 35% more performance, lower power consumption, more features and double the ray tracing and AI capability come in at $899 when 4080's are selling for $949 now, as a two year old product?
Also why would 5070 Ti sell for $699 when it outperforms the 4080 by 35%? Even more so, why would it be priced at that when the 4070 Ti Super is going for $779, and it's going to beat that by over 40%. Who sells a 40% better product over 10% cheaper while still selling the old product side by side?
The scenarios are simple: there's huge discounts on the 4070 Super Ti and 4080 to come at latest in October/November to clear out stock, which won't work as people will just wait until the next gen is released. Just like we saw with RDNA2 stock still being shifted.
The 5000 series will be overpriced by hundreds of dollars over these estimates to begin with, just like the 4000 series Nvidia and 7000 series Radeons were.
Or those prices are hopelessly wrong.
40 series was priced to keep 30 series competitive because they had too much 30 series to still sell off because of crypto crash. 40 series will have time to sell off and have low inventory of equivalent cards by the time 50 series comes out.
In my country 4070 TI Super is $1200, and no price drop visible in the next year or two. The 50 series will be horribly overpriced here as well, I think the sales are going to fail in general
I rly love when they announce 800$ gpu price and then in my country it's like 1200eur... f that.
What I call a good generation of gpus is not just performance, but cost.And unfortunately there's people out there still on 10, 20 and 30 series GPUs, due to Nvidias crazy high prices.🤔
if 5070ti is more powerful than 7900xtx and is 700 dollars, I would buy it. I was not going to pay 800 dollars for a 12 gb 7900xtx in early 2023. 4080 was being scalped as well. so I got 7900xtx at 1000 instead. I do wanna try DLSS as last time I only tried it with dlss 2 on my 3070ti. If nvidia has good prices I would go back.
There never was a 12gb 7900xtx, they all come with 24gb
The raytracing of the 5070 TI looks to surpass the 4090 too, which is like 3x to 5x that of the XTX in the Pathtracing modes (full extent)
Bro dont Upgrade like that from 3070ti to xtx to 5070ti ... Incremental upgrades are trash if you have a xtx I would hold on to that and wait for at least 60 series
The Big 3 AMD, Nvidia, and Intel don't design products specifically for consumers or gamers. They design their products for the corporate and institutional customers. The consumer/gamer parts are the leftovers, scraps, byproducts, and defects from the actual product. For them it's just a marketing exercise convincing people to buy what is essentially junk.
So contrary to what people say about Nvidia focusing on AI and neglecting the consumer market, next generation should have ample supply. The reason is because Nvidia is producing alot of high end products for their corporate and institutional customers. Defects and errors happened at a relatively fixed rate so if you're producing a lot of product then you should also have a lot of defects and scraps that get sold to the consumer market.
I am curious as to how much heat these things generate. My game room already turns into a sauna. These cards are still overpriced and I am positive the price will quickly go up as they sell out. Looks like I will be sticking with my 6900xt, at least for now. It still plays games pretty good.
as a 980Ti owner i hope they release something that is reaonsably priced for 4k gaming with more than 16GB and fits in a 850W PSU.
psst let me give you a hint: 7900XTX. dont wait, get that now.
introducing the rtx 7090 at only 2999.99!
We love gamers*
-Nvidia
The RTX 5050 should have 10GB with the 5060 at 12GB. A 5070 with 12GB is a dirty scam if it is going to be over $500
For the 5070 to again only have 12gb of vram is gonna be bad. That means the 5060 is only gonna have 8gb. Why does nvidia keep doing the same mistakes.
Nah 12gb card in 2024/25 is a pass. No reason for them to make new cards with the same or better performance as the 4070 ti super that they made with 16gb after it flopping with 12gb, limiting it's performance over past gen.
REAL ONE MAN
REAL ONE MAN
@siliconSteak REAL ONE MAN .
Lol we tried guys
What bums me out about the 5080 is the 16gb of vram. I'm not the kind of person to upgrade every other year. I want a build to last me at least 7 years and I'm not willing to spend 5090 money. Hopefully 5080ti has 24 gigs
get a used 3090
You failed to take into account Nvidia's need to make enough of that sweet, sweet leather-jacket money for Jensen. Folks were getting all excited about the Super cards and their estimated price points - but prices are still too high, IMO, even when we factor in inflation. I'm cautiously optimistic that they will *actually* have learned some sort of lesson from the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if a 5090 would be launching for close to 2,000 bucks.
I built a second 7900XTX system this spring banking on the idea that we won't have a significantly faster and better value raster GPU than the 7900XTX until the 5080/5090 drops in price most likely sometime in 2026, by which time "hopefully" RDNA5 will be right around the corner, so the whole 5000 series is still basically a wash from a value perspective.
a 5070 with 12GB RAM would be utterly pathetic. Recent tests from Hardware Unboxed, Daniel Owens and others have shown that 12GB is not enough for some games in 1440p. That is as of today and there will probably many more within the next few years.
The RTX 5050 will be iconic
I was happy to upgrade from a 2070 to a 4080 in 2022. Wasnt happy about the $1199, but the card is phenomenal.
$900 for the 5080 is a steal comparitively
I kinda upgrade every other gen, been looking forward to the 50 series so much. Currently running a 3060 and will be upgrading to the 5090 or 5080 depending on how ling I want to wait to build my new pc lol
i'm in the same boat. i've maxed out my 3060 12gb. they just need to release something already. im due for an upgrade
What the people want for the 50 series:
RTX 5050 - 10GB: $109 (20% Faster than RTX 4060.)
RTX 5060 - 12GB: $249 (60% Faster than RTX 4060.)
RTX 5070 - 16GB: $499 (60% Faster than RTX 4070.)
RTX 5080 - 20GB: $699 (60% Faster than RTX 4080.)
RTX 5090 - 24GB: $999 (60% Faster than RTX 4090.)
What Nvidia will give us:
RTX 5060 - 8GB: $349 (10% Faster than RTX 4060.)
RTX 5060 Ti - 8GB: $499 (11% Faster than RTX 4060.)
RTX 5070 - 12GB: $699 (40% Faster than RTX 4070.)
RTX 5070 Ti - 16GB: $499 (45% Faster than RTX 4070.)
RTX 5080 - 16GB: $1199 (40% Faster than RTX 4080.)
RTX 5080 Ti - 20GB: $1499 (45% Faster than RTX 4080)
RTX 5090 - 28GB: $2499 (80% Faster than RTX 4090.)
Titan AI - 32GB: $2999 (2x Faster than RTX 4090.)
I miss those days when a 90 card caps at $1k
@@JellowGelo I remember when 80 cards were $400-$600
This might be the first generation where some of the lower cards are capable of actually decent peformance at 4k/ultra, but damn that 5060ti looks tempting as a 1440p gamer... if the price is to be believed. It'll be interesting if AMD manages to sort out their RT performance this gen, I still don't see them coming close to DLSS with FSR anytime soon though, even XeSS is better than FSR.
30 series was on a SAMSUNG node
40 series switched backt to TSMC and could have easily dominated but they held back the performance and kept the price or even increased it, named the 4050 a 4060 etc.
So there is so much free performance left. Unless they again sell a 8gb card with performance of a 4070/4070 super
Upgrading from my good old GTX 1070 MSI Armor OC to a RTX 5070 is going to be an interesting experience for me.....
I've been pondering how much i should spend as i upgrade every 4-5 years or More when it comes to my PC.....
I just can't justify spending 1,000$ on a "X"070" class GPU.... or a 80 class.
Its just too much.....
The MOST expensive 5090Ti Super should be 1,200$ and everything else in at least 200$ increments down from there......
5080 estimated price 899... in real life it'll be +1000$ thanks to the usual scheduled shortage organise by Nvidia.
I think its time to upgrade my 2070
Based on past experience, NVIDIA will adjust the naming... so what you have as 5060TI, will be 5070... your 5070 will become 5080, and 5080 will become 5090.... NVIDIA is not doing charity... if they feel performance is there, they will capitalize..
I'm looking at the 4070 Ti Super but can't afford nearly 800 for it, hoping the release of the 50 series will bring the pricing down in the 40 series.....Hoping
"They did also get a lot of negative feedback around the $800 price point..."
Do you REALLY think Ngreedia cares? lol
I'm vibing on my 4070 ti super. if this comes to pass hell yeah if not no shocker. I just don't see those prices being real and I think its exceptionally dumb to wait for the 50 series.
Holding out to replace my 6900xt with a 5080 unless AMD, or Intel, does something nice. I need some extra oomf after getting a 4k 144hz monitor but I normally always skip a generation of graphics cards so I feel like I'm getting a solid improvement after upgrading.
I still cant believe I was able to get a 7900 XTX for $839 a year ago. Nvidia is still smoking crack.
5060 Ti looks like it's on par with the 3080 10gb. If so, despite the relative weakness of the 4070 (non super) that means we're back to roughly one tier = one generation across 3080 series to 5060 Ti, and 3070 to 4060 Ti. 3080 Ti to 4070 Super also matched that. Which is STILL kind of low, compared to previous generational jumps.
This s hows that outside the 4090, the 40 series was a dud generation, just like the 20 series before the "super" refresh.
If those pricings are estimated performances are relatively accurate, I might have to eat my "Never buying Nvidia again" words and consider a 5070 Ti, unless RDNA 4 is much better than expected (or much cheaper than expected).
But 12gb on 5070? That's 3070's vram limitations all over again, despite the faster DDR7. 1080 with ray tracing is hitting 12gb already, let alone 1440. Does Nvidia want to deliberately design the 5070 a 1080 ultra and low-med quality 1440 card? Is this a scummy "planned obsolescence" thing?
I also cannot see Nvidia being this reasonable on price given how much of their higher end silicon is going to be targeted to the AI market. I can see RDNA 4 being cheap, below these estimated prices, but cannot see it getting the bump to ray tracing it desperately needs to be competitive.
Nvidia looks like they'll be playing the NGreedia card yet again, AMD sadly looks like it will be NGreedia - 15% yet again.
That isn't anything to be excited about. It shouldn't be making game developers happy either, as only the wealthy will be bothering with AAA Titles for yet another generation.
I can but hope I'm wrong.
Just one simple example online - the latest Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
Has been using 13783 Vram in one of the zones, in 1440p
And this is 2024... imagine what the future games are gonna be like.
So 12GB vram is already NOW not enough. The 5000x cards better be atleast 16 GB and better 24GB vram, since its a 4k generation.
My 3080 Ti has been good but it's time for an upgrade. I was planning on shelling out for a RTX 5090 this one but being able to keep the 80 Ti upgrade streak going is nicer on my wallet. 👍
the prices could be realistic after some Ti or Super chips release and that is probably a year after but rn I see no reason why it should be that „cheap“ rn.
there is no competition at the moment and Nvidia saw how much people are ready to buy 4-digit priced cards.
I would like to have a 5070Ti refresh with 16gb vram to replace my 3080. I like the efficiency aspect but time will tell.
I've become numb to watching so many 5090 rumor videos for many months now. Everything is so vague because no one really knows anything. Nvidia is doing a great job keeping secrets within itself.
When the time comes I'm sure Nvidia will make huge announcement that can't be missed even for those hiding under a rock. I got my 4090 on day one and to me that feels like a very long time ago.
At this point I'm going to buy whatever the fastest card they will sell on day one whenever it launches.
If Euro prices aren't gonna explode and there's no paper launch / mining boom induced shortage, probably gonna put my NVDA gains towards a 5070Ti and for the first time in my life have a blazing fast gpu!
Rtx 50 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 60 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 70 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 80 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 90 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 100 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 110 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
Rtx 120 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
......................................
Rtx n+1 "likely going to be one of the greatest generations of gpu ever"
This sh*t never gets old, and i hate to listen to this sentence whenever anything new comes into the market, i mean obviously.
This will be the best since 10 series because i want nvidia to send me my media sample to review.
In my eyes youtube reviews list a lot of credibility shilling for these corporations.
im already waiting...but the prices in my country (brazil) is a little too insane so ill probably have to wait a little longer...5070 or 5070 ti depending on the prices.
They kept the x070 series with low Vram intentionally. The x070 series is basically a scuffed sacrifice series for marketing reasons, is a strategy sale card. By cutting Vram, they force to either buy a higher series if you are willing to pay the price due to vram reasons, or going lower in the class tier for higher Vram, like it happened with 3060/12gbVram. Basically getting a ton of sales from the crappy tiers, but also high tiers. So, either way, it's a double win for them. AMD strategy is similar, except they give you more Vram so you can pick any low tier, as most have 16gb Vram these days. So they have high sales on any tier class, also a strategy win for them to sell low tier cards because you will compare price with nvidia cards Vram. But that doesn't mean they gave 20GB Vram to 7800xt class to put nvidia to shame, and show their greediness. They are very similar in sale strategy, with a small exception in price greediness.
Ryzen 5070 best gpu for performance soon?
4090 is currently (04.09.2024) a bit over 2000€ here. During krypto mining highs and scalping it was way over 3000€. So i call BS, atleast in my area. I expect the 5090 to be 3-5k, so not even close to be affordable for the blue collar worker. Germany here.
Just bought a 4070 Ti super didn't want to wait until the 5000 super series are being released and need it now for my work. What i do miss in the video is the power usage.
5070ti for $700ish.... That's a winner in my book!
Pricing is bit too optimistic 😂
Im waiting for the 6090 for completely serious and mature reasons.
Hope the price of the 5080 is under 1K, if it is I'm getting it for a 4K build, wonder if the 5090 is under 1.2K, if that's the case i guess going wilde with a 5K build would be a better option since i upgrade every 6-8 years
I have the rtx 4070 do you think its worth it to go for a rtx 5070 and im at 1440p 165hz or should i wait for 6000 series
😂 never go one gen ahead if y have the old one it is not worth it unless you got cash to burn 😅
@@Oliver-sn4be Thats what i was thinking but, no i haven't got cach to burn but i wish i did but i was more thinking about selling the rtx 4070 and getting a 5070 but i dont think ill bother tbf
@@JamieTDC if it hase the same 12 gb dont go for it now it ok but in one or 2 or 3 years 16 is min
@@Oliver-sn4be That's my exact reason not to upgrade, it has to have at least 16gb for me to even consider it
RTX 5080 $899? Dream on. It will be at least $1499 if not more.
I just bought a 4070 super and sold my 6700 XT. I figure I'll get a lot of benefit from the upgrade vs waiting 6 - 9 months and then buying a 5070 or RX 8800 XT.
slave
@@PaxRufrax was the upgrade worth it?
@@SigmaHuman69 I don't think I can truthfully that it was 100% worth it without the nagging feeling that i should have just been more patient. While my performance is undoubtably far better, it was a lot of money to drop on something that has a lot of competition. I'm also somewhat disappointed I didn't get at least 16GB VRAM. RT in AAA single player games is what sealed the deal though. There were too many games that I have been putting off playing because I was waiting for a better card.
@@PaxRufrax i have the 6750xt and want to upgrade to the 4070 ti super 16gb
12GB is not enough for 4K AMD had 16GB in 2019 MSRP $699
No way these cards will be those prices!
I think your hand was on the keyboard wrong. The 5080 at $899?? Thats a 2008 price, I think you will find its $1899.
lol right I’ll predict 1300$
the greatest generation.... more like buy the 4090 when the price drops cause you know damn well Jensen will price the 5080 at $1200.00 making the price:performance terrible. Every new generation of NVIDIA cards will make the last gen better because of how the used market works
I think this lineup so far is brutal.
Unless you want the 5060 or have a milio ln dollars to get the 5090, all the cards in between are almost pointless to at least say that it's the best lineup since the 1000 series.
With the 4000, you could get a 4070ti to beat last gen 3090ti
This gen, you need to get the 5090 to beat the 4090 by these leaks so.... What's the point if you have to spend $2500 in back to back years to upgrade??
im still rocking a 2080S in my laptop. I am getting a 5090 setup as soon as it hits!
You know what doesn't cut it....the fact that NVIDIA still have not put DP 2.1 on these new cards. The fact that there are ultra wide panels...Like the Samsung 59inch G9 Neo...thats requires more bandwidth from the cable but cannot because NVIDIA...still use DP 1.4. My friend has the 4090. And its limited to 120hz @1440p....he cannot run full 2160 on the panel. Because bandwidth limit is 32.4gbps
I mean the thought process of the mass majority goes like this:
RTX 4070 ti super about 880 euros or so.
RX 7900 gre at around 550 for me it was at least.
Both are similar in performance. +, - nothing essentially, except for those two game.
Value and performance aren't quite 1:1 but of course you would pay 300 more for the same shit.
To be honest, i'm more impressed of amd running RT so well despite it being a NVIDIA favoring feature.
I remember that shitty NVIDIA physx bullshit tanking amd more than RT would have right now.
To me the pricing of AMD just makes more sense. I bet nvidia could just sugar coat their gpus and people just buy it anyway at this point.
I'm certain that AMD can do better but NVIDIA has just won the Apple of the gpu market.
I will keep getting AMD because i get similar or the same for paying less. That is my reason for getting AMD products. I went from Radeon HD 7950 to the 580, 6600 and now the 7900 gre.
I'm happy with AMD. NVIDIA just feels too dystopian to me.
Losless scaling and frs mod mine gtx 960 4 GB still kicking. If the price and gpu vram is fine i will give it a shot for 50 series.
Now i know why I haven’t had a pc for 15yrs
Release date?
Dude is on the highest form of copium available thinking Nvidia is going to lower their prices.
I will wait till 5070TI come's as i have a 3080TI i wont go for anything lower than 4080 performance... xD else its not a upgrade worthy of my money. But only if the prices are decent else i might look at what AMD is gonna bring to the table. Lucky me i can wait and chill out and compare what the cards will look like and do, cause my card is still good enough to play ultra on 1440p xD
hope 5070 will also have 16gb, even with slightly slower speed
If the 70 series doesn’t have 16gb of ram I won’t be buying it until it does.
If you ask me, A guy using a 10-year-old budget laptop, I am waiting for a 5000 series GPU, So for the next 10 years I won't have to buy a new laptop
My predictions
5090>$2000 (30-50% better than the 4090, street price will be higher)
5080>$1000 (4090 like performance with less vram, street price will be higher)
5070 TI>$800 (slightly better than a 4080 super, street price will be higher)
5070>$550 (4080 like performance, again you will rarely find it for this price)
5060 TI>$429 (4070 like performance, I expect that you will find for this price)
5060>$350( Between the 4060 Ti and 4070, you will find it for this price)
Since this is Nvidia, watch the plain 5070 be $699 if not a 5060 Ti.
yup seems like the go to will be the used market just like with Ada Lovelace. 4090s will be $1000.00 used and that is all you'll need
Nvidia sells a $400 to build card for $20k to AI companies because they are the only option. They will sell these cards for a much as possible without tanking sales. If AMD has nothing to compete at these price ranges these will deff be more expensive.
I think I'll wait for the 6090 ti super 👌
@@n64slayer It'll be $3000 sir
@@adamn7125 thank you miss
Nobody understands Nvidias Naming 4080ti never came but a super