Jeff Teague on why Atlanta Hawks HAD TO TRADE Dejounte Murray to New Orleans Pelicans | Club 520
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- Jeff Teague and the Club 520 squad react to the Atlanta Hawks trading Dejounte Murray to the New Orleans Pelicans. Plus, Teague explains why Murray and Trae Young were a bad fit in Atlanta. And don't miss Teague, prior to Paul George signing with the 76ers, GO IN ON why Paul George SHOULD HAVE stayed and played in Los Angeles with the Clippers.
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Man I’m an Atlanta native been a Hawks fan all my life but they don’t know what the hell they are doing, front office is terrible tryna keep butts in the seats instead of building a real contender
They tried to keep butts in seats while building a contender post the ECF run when they added DJ. Found out that both Trae and DJ are better suited as primary handlers as opposed to working off ball with each other and are now correcting by adding more defense and shooting around Trae (hopefully more rebounding too) idk what else y'all expect especially when we aren't able to grab stars during free agency most years.
yeah us ATLiens should know by now we are not trying to win nor do we know how. It is what it is... it's just a lil game to these GMs & owners
Facts!
@@mef2theman Man you guys need to trade Trae, dude is like Westbrick (but less effective), his stats are more important then winning, he's got all the talent but doesn't know how to use it an is so bad on D
@@ChuckwaldMartin the ignorance level is off the charts.. no one takes casuals' shallow opinions seriously. nice try buddy
Said a whole one sentence on the Murray trade
Real Talk. Every since they traded Dominique Wilkins for Danny Manning, the Hawks ain't been Shit. The only organization in Atlanta who actually gives a damn is the Braves. Everybody have a crib in ATL but nobody wants to play for Atlanta
Dominique Wilkins is one of the most underrated Superstars in NBA history
I'm from N Florida had Nique poster on my wall as a kidd.
Loved the Braves since I was a kidd too. Went to a game it was grest. $alute
One of the Dumbest trade in nba history Atlanta was playing the best basketball in the east until that trade.
I loved Joe Johnson, Josh Smith era Hawks.
I had no idea I would like this podcast this much. Jeff Teague and the Club 520 squad is a great listen/watch.
Teague said harden and russ is better than embiid and maxey. Smh . He be having some wild takes .smh😮😂
Not the brightest bulb. He said Kobe was a try hard like you’re not supposed to…try hard lmao
@@MaximusR93 you are missing a lot of context w/ this one, kobe stan
did he say current harden + russ > embiid + maxey? Otherwise if hes saying rockets harden + russ > sixers embiid + maxey, hes not wrong. But maxey is super young so might change
Im sorry but Teague is talking about contributing to winning and making players better aka leadership.... Russ and Harden have won way more than Embiid and Maxey, knock it off 🙄🙄🙄
Bro just removed all context lmao good try
Trae needs a setup like Maxey has now. A versatile center that can create on his own and a small forward that does it all
as a hawks fan, Yes. This is What we hoped Onyeka Okongwu would be
@@truphonicOO too small.
Hawks should have moved down and got Edey. They could play inside out/outside in with a guy that has to be doubled in the post. He’s gonna help Ja but Ja’s not a shooter.
@@atlnla4112 Honestly having edey and ja on the floor is gonna ruin the team dynamic. Edey legit cannot do anything outside of the paint so he's gonna clog the lane a lot and make it hard for ja to score like he usually does
That’s a hard setup to find Embiid is a unicorn and wings like Paul George who can score at a high level and defend at a high level are hard to find
Murry is a huge upgrade for the Pelicans at the point. Perfect fit. Pelicans will be fun to watch this year. Only two point guards in the NBA had 3 game winning shots, one was Steph Curry, the other one was Dejounte Murray 🏀🔥 clutch!!
No one is going to fit Trae Young, he still playing the PG like is in high school. Standing around , not cutting, just waiting for a chance to call a pick so he can jack a three. The reason we moved D.Murray is because no one wanted Trae......
Literally most point guards in the league do the same thing. Watch Luka, watch Harden, watch Haliburton lol.
Like Luka, you can’t change your best player. You right though but Trae is there best player. You have to build around Trae, regardless if they don’t win, they have to.
@@kb5509Trae can shoot too
He too short to be tryna do anything but shoot
He almost averaged 11 assists you twat. You don’t know wtf you’re talking. You sound like a casual idiot. Stick to football
NBA TV makes you forget how big these dudes are, even the guards. Teague is a house.
Diddy is that you??
@@EATSLEEPREACT no. That’s Bruce.
I was thinking the same. Made some friends from Asia google Steph's height the other day. They thought he was eye level with them 😢
@@EATSLEEPREACT I think it's more Diddy to record a crazy man on a bus and post it then to point out how BIG another man is. So big.
These dudes aren't that big compared to NBA players. Steph is 6'2 and Jeff 6'3. Both weigh under 200 lbs. No where near huge.
This & melo podcast my top go to right now
Wasn't even that long ago and I completely forgot Jeff played for Boston😂🍻🍺
Mike getting snappy, “I aint looking that up”
I was like damn Mike
Shoutout B-Hen having that PG to Philly optimism
Cuz we all know they gonna get hurt they might play 30 games together
PG was in LA with the Clippers for damn near 5 years and they didn’t get it done. It’s past time got to move on. And honestly, the clippers are about ready to hit the reset button again as well. He has a much better chance of winning with Embiid and Maxey as well right now. The 76ers are Top 4 in the East and when healthy are damn near one of the best in the league. This was a great move for him. They’ll push Boston more than many will like to believe
Maxey is so underrated right now it’s crazy.
I don't think that he's underrated just that he can't be that guy when the team actually needs him to. Not to say he never shows up but in this past playoffs, Joel had to carry that team with shaky legs and twitching eyes.
To whom???? Nobody not mentioning him when bringing up the 6ers... I gotta disagree friend
@@lithamoshoeshoe4641Maxey averaged 30,7 and 5 in that series. Like I said underrated Lmao
@@sswolfbeard4093Teague said Dame was better than Tyrese. Yeah he WAS better. Y’all don’t understand how great that kid is now.
@@ericdogan8899 I hear you. I’m not saying his a bad player but in their most recent series Embiid wasn’t able to finish all the games meaning all the offence ran through him and it was easier for teams to game plan against just him.
Tobias has to be the weakest link of that team for sure
Jeff Teague got a good brain on him. 🎉
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
⏸️
Good brains
PAUSE
Teams will try to make players fit instead of actually finding players that work well together. See so much in this league across the board.
Philly one of the best fan bases. Ask actual players who played there and left. It’s different when the city cares. Booing ain’t shit. You can only boo or cheer. They boo when you don’t show effort or Ass. It’s easy to become a fan favorite in Philly.
Teague is on another level right now just like he was in the NBA! 💯
He’s going to do great in Philly
B-Hen seen the vision lol
My prediction for Atlanta is, Murray makes and All Star team and Trae doesn't. Cause that's the Atlanta thing to do.
That would be bittersweet, cant wait to listen to ISO-Trae's whiny ass cryin'....he aint no leader
Never should've traded bogdonovic to sac , you need a solid 2 to play with Trae, someone who just wants to score , shit honestly if they would've gotten Paul George to pair with Trae you'd see Trae win
Bogie is in Atl
Huerter went to Sac
IK all whities look da same but damn, one got red hair!
Hawks made it to the ECF just a couple years ago. They had a solid roster a couple years ago.
Yeah cuz Ben collapsed. Young a number 2.
Dope podcast and dope perspective on what ATL is doing
Hawks shoud sign Paul Reed, since he just got waived
Wouldnt be a bad addition as a 4/5 tweener tbh. Would help Mo Guye develop too
This shit sucks, I got my jersey signed by him last season & I honestly thought he was the future of ATL
Same here. We were first at the gate to get in because DJ and Jalen were first to warmup. He signed 6 jerseys, a hat, and 17 basketball cards for us. Dude is super humble! We’ll miss him. Hawks are so stupid.
He should have been if they knew what tf they were doin. I dont understand how you cant see DJ made Everyone better, thereby the team won more and played defense TOGETHER. Really stupid that they are ridin with a whiny ass high usage, selfish, turnover machine instead. Alot of coaches and player carcasses left in Isotrae's wake...
How is he not going to win in Philly smh
They never explain themselves. They just say shit
The PG segment is funny based upon what actually happened
In this injury era, where star players are all prioritising their health, I'd like to see front offices totally shift away from building a team with the best 5 players and instead move to finding the best 10 players they can get even if it means making the starting 5 worse.
R.I.P. to my tier 3 2k squad😢
It’s hard when you playin with someone who’s 3-13 from 3 damn near every game.
I guess I'm in the minority thinking that Philly would have a better chance at winning than the Clippers. If Embiid can stay relatively healthy.
Even without PG at that also.
They only have three knees worth of cartilage between PG and Embiid. They not gonna be healthy to make a true run at a chip
Two*
@@tysonbaker6287 lmo
“What number were you?”
“I was 55.
“Oh (you were buns).”
😭😭😭
"they boo fucking Santa Claus" 😂😂😂
DJ defensive guard? 😂😂😂😂 dude had a worse defensive season than trae
He’s good defending 1s not 2’s
@@rwill784 DJ had a worse defensive season than Trae young,Curry, Brunson and Luka and none of those guys can guard
Also a former 2nd team all NBA defender. The ability is there the environment wasn’t
That man was playing with trae young 🤣🤣
@@Moneymaker600 and Trae is a better defender than Murray
He went to Philly 🤣 he was right the whole time
He fit New Orleans but they cudda made it work. It’s a 3 point shooting point guard and drive into the paint point guard it’s jus 2 diff scoring options they should have kept him and tried to get more 3 point shooters for that team in my opinion
We were better off building around DJ, I get it that him and Trae didn’t fit but lbfr, The Hawks played better with DJ on the court
Truth
Thanks for taking that wack ass intro off 💪🏾💯💯💯
How this came out 2hrs ago n PG been signed w Philly for a week ... 🤌🏽👑💯
This is nasty work ima support but they can’t keep robbing me
This is just a clip they talked about this 5 days ago on the actual episode.
They sold when they blew up that team they had where they went deep into the playoffs with huerter idk why they didn’t run it back they had a good squad now all you have to do is guard trae
They did run it back, the main problem was that they truly ran it back with almost the exact same squad instead of improving their problem areas. They put too much faith in Deandre Hunter and Cam Reddish and both came up well short in reaching expectations
Exactly that code been cracked and if you shutdown the IsoTrae you win....
The trade was great for Atlanta
Ya bout to see how dejounte is
Allstar
Hes gonna turn up the D with that squad, Alvarado and that energy will inspire the beast in DJ...Isotrae ruins that kinda energy
I just remembered my nigga Teague a Champion 🏆😂
"I don't know wtf they gonna do with Trae Young" - Casual. I'm glad Jeff corrected him right away. These dudes be talking and don't even know shit.
Bishop always rub his knees when he clowning lol
Bishop Kneemont
Trae young will never be Steph curry he’s good at assisting too if he stop shooting so many threes and keep that point guard mindset he would be so much better
Truth...but he aint changin....he needs to go to Big3 with that big3 game
It's crazy the hawks traded a 6'7 for a 6'1 😅😂
Height don’t mean shit
@@TH-camTroll86how many 6’1 guards have won titles as their teams best player
@@alexescutia4805How many PFs have won rings as the best player? Dirk, Duncan, Petit maybe Elvin Hayes..in 74 seasons that's only 4 guys so what does that mean?
@@jbwuzhere6819kg, giannis, lebron, tatum bro plenty of pfs have won as the best player on their team
@@Idk_tbh20 Giannis yes but Tatum is not a PF nor is LeBron. Nowadays everybody can be a PF depending on the matchups. That's still not many names. That's why people annointed Duncan the goat PF so easily.
I have always hoped the Hawks would go further! Unfortunately injuries & trades have a major effect on them! If they can get a strong Trio of players on the starting 5 & a strong bench …. they could go far! They’ve made the playoffs , but can’t make the finals & win it all!!!!!
🤔😤🤦🏽♂️
2 things
Herb is not coming out the starting lineup. If it's between herb and cj cj goes to the bench
2 As much as I would like BI to stay pels pretty much have to flip him into some big depth cuz they have none
I think people are overlooking what Hawks doing with Trae now. They’re using big defenders all around Trae to cover up his defensive liability. Trae offense is so high that you can put defenders around him who’s offense as potent. DJM defense wasn’t as good as we had hoped for. DJM is more of a true guard than 2 way combo guard
Good luck with all that.
How about you get a PG thats not a whiny ass **ssy and plays defense and actually inspires everyone else to commit to the little things. Oh we had that, DJ brought the team UP about 10 notches on defense while IsoTrae was out. Go watch tape, our PFA numbers went down by like 10 during that month.
Comparatively, look at the team effort in that Chicago play in game that ISOtrae had NO business playing....no energy, no spirit, no intensity....IsoTrae DESTROYS TEAM ENERGY, you can see it if you have eyes to see.
IsoTrae shouda recused himself from that game, but he put himself over the team(see the pattern?)and stunk it up. Coby White looked like an allstar lol.
DJ deserved a chance to run through a season as the leader but now we can only hope they move IsoTrae but nobody wants that energy on their squad so here we go again.
Casuals don't have a clue on this one. Trae & DJ were redundant. Trae needs a defensive stopper next to him. Murray wasn't that and Dyson Daniels is that.
Also, that Lakers pick is about to be valuable cuz they are looking like food in the western conference.
They WERE THAT its just iso trae brings everyones energy Down because hes immature and plays like a whiny ***ch. You watch DJ is gonna be allstar and defensive beast with that Alvarado energy in Nawlins.
@chazgoat6939 Murray will be good in NO because he's legitimately a good point guard. Love DJ but he's a PG not a 2 guard. That's the problem. He can't guard wings, Daniels can and is a monster on defense. Murray is solid against other PGs and can get steals, but that's about it. He was out of position in ATL.
You kinda made my point, DJ was our guy, we traded WHAT we needed at the 1...i get it nobody wants that ISOTrae game where it takes 4 grown ass men to compensate for a weak link.
@chazgoat6939 I didn't make your point. Despite DJ being a good PG, he's not on Trae's level. Trae is arguably the best passer in the league and led top 10 offenses before DJ ever showed up and hurt the efficiency.
Also, stop the🧢. No player has ever came out and said anything negative about Trae as a teammate.
Trae just needs good defenders around him and Murray wasn't that.
Your right, hes not on Traes level, hes WAY better than Iso Trae...spittin stats is all you got with Trae, its called empty calories my friend, that one trick pony is going NoWHERE in the EC.. DJ does the little things Trae never will, and that is what makes him a leader and, oh yeah, a player other teams want.
If you cant see the difference on the court between when Trae was out and that pitiful Chi play in disaster, i cant help you. Trae brings the whold team down and its obvious when you have eyes to see WINNING basketball.
Real Hawks fans dont give AF about Trae's #'s, they dont translate to W's, if you still stuck on that IG your an IsoTrae fan but thats about it.
Trae will be great in the Big3 someday with that game of his..
George didn’t deserve this one the man hurt half the time
Sorry but the 2 PG system just never works out
PG 3rd option in Philly he’ll be healthier when the playoffs role around
CJ and Murray is the perfect match because CJ is a scoring guard and Trae wasn’t? I’m confused. I feel like the reason why it would work is because Hawks is asking Murray to be the second scoring option and that won’t be the case anymore.
CJ compliments DJ better in that he can play off ball / SG better than Trae. They'll likely use DJ as the primary handler
Trae has to change things in his game period but it’s also Murray is a PG plain and simple
CJ do not deserve to start over Herb if he isn’t traded
PG should be use to expectation. Have we forgotten the mass majority picked the clippers to win the chip pre-pandemic?!? Have we forgotten they were favorited again after their melt down in the bubble?! LA ain’t it.
Paul George did nothing while he was in LA. Hopefully he lives up to his potential in Philly
this PG and philly take from Teague aged like milk 💀
Glad Paul George ignored this.
The Philadelphia 76ers have Tyrese Maxey compared to Terrance Mann, not to mention a good backup Center in Andre Drummond.
The fact that teague preferred playing for a big market mediocre franchise than a small market contender is hilarious
lol Teague keep saying pg built this and that in La but then keeps mentioning his podcast 😂😂 like right bruh, he ain’t do nothing but the podcast and hoop ain’t win nothing fr so dipping to Philly makes sense, he can’t go down from there
Isn't the Atlanta Hawks 2024 #1 selected NBA 1st Round Draft Pick 6'9 Frenchman Forward Zaccharie Risacher essentially the SAME player as current Atlanta Hawks Forward Jalen Johnson? WTF? LOL!
*Current outgoing/departing Hawks player due to free agency* :
SF - Saddiq Bey (Restricted);
SG - Wesley Matthews;
G/F [2WP] - Vit Krejci (Restricted);
G [2WP] - Seth Lundy (Restricted);
G [2WP] Trent Forrest (Restricted);
G [2WP] Dylan Windler (Restricted).
*Atlanta Hawks 2024-25 Roster* :
[C] 6'10 Clint Capela
& 6'10 Onyeka Okongwu;
[PF] 6'8 Larry Nance Jr,
6'9 Zaccharie Risacher
& 6'9 Bruno Fernando;
[SF] 6'8 De'Andre Hunter,
6'8 Jalen Johnson,
6'10 Mouhamed Gueye,
6'6 E.J. Liddell
& 6'7 Nikola Djurisic;
[SG] 6'5 Bogdan Bogdanovic,
6'7 Dyson Daniels
& 6'6 Garrison Mathews;
[PG] 6'1 Trae Young,
& 6'5 Kobe Bufkin.
Jalen Johnson is an uber athletic forward who can catch lobs and dribble good enough to bring the ball down to court, while providing good help defense and a little bit of rim protection. Zach Risacher is a sharpshooting forward, who is really good without the ball in his hands, and knows how to get open. Whether he is cutting to the basket, or getting open from three. He also provides really good help defense as well, mostly off of deflections and steals. While Jalen and Zach both have similar height, they are completely different players who complement each other and Trae Young very well.
PG getting that BAG in Philly
I don't think the CJ and Murray tandem is any different than the backcourt he just left in ATL
Both are PGs, common sense
Paul want that chip he got money
Y’all still saying we booed Santa Clause? Y’all weird for that lol
Can't be weird when it's true and it happened 😭😂🤣😂
@@thefreakyrobber0weird for bringing it up every opportunity he has. That nigga hate on the east coast all day
When hear people say that, it means they know zero about the Philly fan base. It’s a lazy statement.
@@thefreakyrobber0have y’all ever thought to why that happened ? Looked into it at all? Lol or just going with weird narratives because it’s the cool thing to hate on Philly
They wasn't even alive when it happened is the weird part. Just repeating the same nonsense.
They are going to move Brandon Ingram because they need a center and the only way to get one is to trade Ingram. He is the only asset they have left to get a decent center.
what decent centers are left on the market though
Lauri @@chillen9109
joel better than every los angeles clipper
Meanwhile, Orlando better than BOTH the other teams. See you in the playoffs ✌🏾
CJ not gonna start over Herb & BI has to get traded Trey Murphy about to get paid books not gonna let the money work
Teague smoking rocks
If Trae can’t have success next to Dejounte, who else can be realistically play with alongside him ?? I’m not speaking on Ant Edwards or a guy like Paul George cuz they not trading them. He needs a 2 guard who can play defense and Murray was a good fit. There’s no one else they can realistically get to have success next to him.
A d&3 player who can catch and shoot Trae and Dejounte got in each other’s way
@@fairgamewithtjorumname one they can realistically get though, there’s not a lot out there that would’ve been as effective as Murray.
Dejounte Murray and a 2 guard that can play defense shouldn’t be used together in the same sentence
They should’ve traded Trae fr
New Orleans going to be a problem on 2k ain’t no telling in real life bc of injuries or other issues
BI will not be there, he does not fit well with them. Invest in Trey Murphy. Trade BI now while his value is what it is. CJ, DJM, Trey M, and Zion are your cornerstone right now. Plug the rookie in at center. Herb is the 6th.
Lovin that they know Embiid aint shit. All the falling and foul shit doesn't work in the playoffs. That's why he's never made it out the second round
PG shoulda went back to Indy.. and I’m not even a Pacers fan
these dudes tweaking lol. The east theres only 2 teams the west theres legit 9 teams who you have to go through. He has the best chance to win with Philly
Why do y’all always put Jeff Teague name when it’s a whole podcast putting they input in yall need to start putting respect on my nigga Dj and B-Hen name 😂💯
Homie cause on the topic at hand. Teague was actually there. Its literally a story that relates to his life, it only relates to the others thru Jeff.
JT has the bigger fan base
The reason you clicked on the video
SEO aka search engine optimization.
@@greatone9102 no boy I been watching the podcast since it started I always click every video I watch it cause I like all 3 of them not just Jeff Teague
Trae is a good player
But just too small , can’t defend , can’t really score without high volume
But you have to pay him , so it’s tough
Trae need to be in team that has good big n defensive team because he’s a liability on the defensive end
Iso Trae needs to be in Big3, period
Who is these dudes dude on the right ate everything
Buddy calling Philly one of the worst fan bases is so funny. Just cause we are passionate and aren’t okay with losing. Ask Bryce Harper about Philadelphia
Trae young needs to leave ATL honestly! They aren’t going anywhere! I can see Trae with Lakers
We fucked up w our pick i swear , there 2 mfs close to him alr n jj plays jus like him
If I’m Brandon I’m not taken less then Scottie Barnes 💯🤷🏿♂️
Trea not a number 1 guy is all.
And Murray is?
They should have gave it 1 mo year
Teague be joking and sh** but you can tell he real dude tho .
Trae can play did people forget wen he almost made the finals but lost in 6??? Come on stop reading stuff and watch the games m. He averages 20 plus and 10 plus ast easy
Guess what, EC teams adjusted since then and ISO-Trae will never get that far again unless he changes that one trick pony show...he has not evolved his game to WIN, period. He needs to go to Big3 if hes gonna play Big3 ball, theres a reason there was market for DJ and not ISO-trae.
need to trade Bi , he like a poor mans KD that can't get a bucket when it matters
Idk if hawks will ever get it right. I had to take a week off after we got fleeced.
I get we had to break it up but would have like to get more
We got an unprotected 1st, a top 10 3&D wing who is proficient at point of attack defense, a vet 4/5 rebounding machine, and a 3/4 with shooting and blocking - not sure about a fleece but hey
Just stay away when we make the finals in a couple years
that shxt work in 2k them mfs are god tier
Hawks are OP in 2k. The fact they are a tier 3 team in play now online is unfair
I swear DJ fits be getting worse by the episode 😭