he wont be on the show next year lol thats fored but obviously skip is a huge peraonality they aint just gonna say hes fired they will say mutally agreed to split ways or sumn but either way u cut it they cut ties with him
Skip did not choose to leave. His ratings have been abysmal, and he's amongst the highest paid at the network. Fox came to him and told him they had to shift
If he left or they told him that they still have to pay him a lot of money and think he’s leaving because skip is still a big draw with the right person
@@ceazemccallsr.6679 stephen A and Shannon are far more successful without skip, skip without them clearly doesn't carry any weight he isnt a big draw at all
This is one of Mccants best takes. I like him SO much better when he isnt playing the contrarian chaos character because he really is very smart and articulate when given the right chance.
@@Ackshuallymmm So he got old in just one year? LOL dude. Shannon left and the viewers left with him. Shannon's subs on youtube: 3.3 million Skip's subscribers on youtube: 170k First Take Ratings: 482k Skip's Ratings: 50k Skip is a has been and can no longer draw an audience. People are DONE with him.
To be fair Skip was washed and old by the end of his run with First Take. People only watched Undisputed because of Shannon. First Take with SAS and Skip was awesome though. @PotatoGunCamper
I love that you guys have a podcast I have learnt so much more from you guys than I ever did from mainstream media. Since being a basketball fan and player from Africa. I'm great fully for you guys please keep it up.
I agree. At times I feel the analysts tend to look at things from our perspective the players talk from a player perspective which many of us don’t relate to.
@@BigDic-qz8suyou speaking like Skip is related to Tom. And the funny part is, Tom went to do an interview with Cowherd instead of Skip. So all that caping didn’t even land an interview.
@@kevinstewart8054 y'all act like he called you the n word just because he criticized athletes skills. He never said anything racist black men were just being sensitive.
At the end of the day... SPORTS MEDIA is SIMPLY GOSSIP. Not saying that to TRIGGER anyone. But gossiping has never been a good look. Just food for thought and a word to the wise.
Lebron said some of you players don’t know how to flip a play without seeing it on the white board. Knowledge of the game is knowledge of the game respectfully
Bron also said his son was better than some dudes in the league so we can’t take his word for it. These fans don’t know ball most started watching post-2014 & watch casually
When Rashad said disagreeing with someone is frowned upon by the masses he’s talking strictly about the bronny situation and Brandon caught it immediately 😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
But you have to add full context. He might not be wrong, but he’s a notorious LeBron hater so people don’t want to hear what he hast to say about LeBron’s son. Literally its the flight attendant/pilot analogy that Gil brought up.
When I was coming up the OGS kinda took you under the their wing instead of hating, the Bronny situation is you whole grown ass man hating a kid because you don’t like his dad is obvious. The number 2 pick just went 0-15 nothing
@@juanellchapman4545nobody knows who Sarr is and he plays for a dumpster fire franchise… he’s expected to not pan out or if he can play he’ll leave in 4 years
@@datsapaddlini disagree at being a terrible analyst. He had a lot of great points on topics when it wasn’t about cowboys, and LeBron. But I think your second point is important. These duos have to have chemistry. Stephen A and Skip back then was hilarious cause their opinion was so different but they never got pissed at each other. Shannon and Skip first couple years were great. That show was dope cause that was when Shannon wasn’t taking shit personal. Honestly even when Shannon would be screaming at him, i loved watching them beef, but i assumed Shannon and Skip just understood it was good Tv.
Sometimes your time is your time. He can come on as a guest now. He is 74 I think. So he rich, spend time with Earnestine, his wife. She deserves it. Maybe Wayne will invite you over.😅
@@franklinfitzgerald6723the messed up part about that is he told Ernestine sports will always come before her when they got together 😂 I personally think from what I have seen about him on tv and based on rumors he doesn’t sound like a good guy.
That’s me asking my doctor what’s your favorite thing for lunch.! Like what da hell are they talking about. N that’s why u need a BALANCE. Non players view n player view bc players are too ENTITLED N COCKY
ESPN has already released a statement that they will not be hiring Skip back. Skip isn't leaving of his own free will. He was forced out and FS one is just trying to put it in a nice way
“You don’t have Black friends, you only know Black people.” -Shannon Sharpe. He told Skip this to his face about another topic but we all knew the intended target….
@arismendez There's no race card....only this skin we wear. It seems to have a strange effect on some people. Especially those who don't wear it. But why should you get upset. You're name is Mendez. You're one of our distant cousins. More distant than cousin in your case. What a pity...
Skip Bayless is the LeBron of troll media. And just like LeBron is diminishing, Skip Bayless is also not in his prime anymore. Why are you guys Clowning aging? I don't get it. Oh you guys don't like them but he's one of the goats whether you like it or not
Goat of what? His only talent was picking a good cohost to debate with and he can’t even do that anymore. He can’t carry a show by himself look at his terrible boring TH-cam channel he just reads off a piece of paper.
And everytime a former player goes on tv and criticizes an active player they say its hating. Athletes don’t want to be criticized at all no matter who it is this days
Most of them have a education and it's not hard to do there jobs plenty examples of x players doing very well that's the point most of the old media isn't qualified to talk sports and we don't want to go historical
Skip had a amazing long career run, he embraced being the Villain and never apologized for it, whether Gil want too admit it or not Skip made it Okay too be a hater like Gil is towards the 90’s and 80’s NBA
Rare to see a sensible take on this. Gil is a generational hater but it's okay because he's a 'player'? In that case only the people that have done the job can ever comment. You can't critique a movie because you aren't an actor/director, you can't critique a worker on the quality of the job because you never did that, you can't critique the government because you never worked a government post? This whole viewpoint is incredibly shortsighted.
I think part of the reason why Skip Bayless lost ratings on undisputed is because of the statement that he made regarding demar hamlin. He never retracted that statement and the way that he treated Shannon the day after he made that statement and disrespect turned a lot of people off and it cost a huge decline in viewership
You're not wrong but if you read the comments and followed Skip there's a LOT of different comments and stances he took that further declined in ratings. The reality is Skip has been tanking that show and his own brand for years.
My only issue I have with players saying a journalist never played but if someone has done the research and put the time in to learn the game and has covered the game for a lengthy amount time played or not they also share perspective that players don't have. If we went on this philosophy then there wouldn't be no news because that's how this world works. People study to talk about topics that they have covered for decades. Now my issue is not every player that has played needs to talk either because of the lack of journalism skills it's more emotional talking than actual facts and that's what players say journalist don't have so which one is it cuz it can't be both.
Because they study the x’s and o’s and the why’s and what’s and 90% of the players don’t know the what’s and why’s all this players podcast is about end really quick because it’s too many of them
Even if not the NBA, at least college. College, outside of D3, is pretty high-level, so if you lettered for 4 years you probably have reasonable knowledge of X and Os, along with perspective. But there is NO reason fat Windhorst should be saying ANYTHING about basketball other than the business side (like contracts)
Actually no tf it isnt. You have no qualifications to criticize anyone whose job you cant do yourself. Nobody gives a fuck that you buy a ticket once a year
@@aydobo literally none of what you said means that you’re valid. Just you watching is all that matters. You don’t have to BUY shit. 😂 You’re there to be entertained not critique how players play the game. It’s The audacity of some of you fans nowadays and what y’all say without the fear of repercussions.
The only reason I listen to players podcasts is to hear first hand behind the locker room stories that reporters don’t really know about. However, even players have to draw a line in the sand whether or not to go too deep and not reveal too much information.
They COOKED this segment! Especially Gil pointing out the fact that we know nothing about our favorite players because these "analysts" waste a whole interviews squandering them
Nothing can replace the fan's perspective. Podcast by players provide better insight. But we can never have y'all perspective. We aren't pros. Your insight is needed. But fan perspective is a pivotal part of sportscasting.
@@galactic4830 Rashad no one takes him serious, he doesnt take himself serious, now Gil thinks he knows everything about everything and only his opinion is the opinion that matters
“If I wanted to see a dinosaur I’d go to Jurassic park “ . Joysiah don’t get too cocky man. Wasn’t nothing fucking with skip and Shannon to be real. Don’t get to ahead of yourself as a host.
Gil said out of his own mouth that when he gets comfortable with hosting the show, he will take the hosting job from Josiah and he will get promoted...That hosting job you have isn't permanent
The disrespect got out of hand and it was only a matter of time before Shannon had enough. The minute Shannon started bringing props and doing club shay shay I stopped tuning in to see skip. Instead of grooming Shannon and letting him take over the show he started resenting the hire and he sabotaged the show. Shannon needs to bring Night cap to prime time and do a real late night tv show for sports.
So we gon act like white people the only people to ever put anybody on? How many black people put on white people? Mf's always wanna bring race in it, just shows their character
I think the player podcast thing has a limited lifecycle though. Eventually it will burn out especially when it gets overly saturated and you come at it from a "I'm right because I played and you don't know what you're talking about because you didn't" standpoint. There will be outliers that will stick around for the long haul though like Gil, Shannon, Shaq, Cam, and other well known personalities in sports.
Kay Adams is great and asks about the family and kids and is so fascinated with their lives and gives us great info. She stays curious and never acts like the expert. She asks questions like it's her first time learning, even though she knows the answers. Gets the players to open up in a unique way.
I am with Gils Arenas with this he is leaving and he won't die In my words he has so much time put in working for a great organization no one should cry please the guy has a incentive package please the guy is okay
The Forbes guy that did the Chris Paul interview about investing was a small time reporter for the San Antonio spurs now doing a focus on business and black business men for FORBES 😂 these corps HATE sharing money with outsiders, it’s always inside baseball with them
I like Skip, feel bad for him if he got fired. He really knows his stats and I feel he plays the edgy role which gets him hate. SAS or Shannon need to get him a job.
I love that retired players are getting the opportunities to make their own shows. But at the same time, they have their own biases against certain teams and players bc of their own experiences. So it will never be “better” than a traditional NBA journalist/analyst
Kenyon is great. I really enjoy listening to him and how he gives you his insights from experience and speaks on the issues in such an intelligent and straightforward way. I could listen to his opinion on anything.
Podcasts are a throwback to Talk Radio, so the older folk get drawn in by the nostalgic feel of it. The young folk are drawn in because of the engagement through social media, so they get to feel like they can stay connected and they get to feel like their opinions are heard and matter. 🤔🎙️📻🤷🏽♂️
Here it is: The good ole boy system is just about over! The non playing YT media analyst has always got on my nerves.. the black token ones too! The voting of mvp’s, hall of fame votes, 1st team, second team, all star voting by people who NEVER played. I’m glad it’s over
I rather have Skip talk sports ANY day cus I know he not gonna sugar coat his opinions jus cuz he got friends in the league like players do.. players root for ppl jus cus they played on the same team.. went to the same summer camps or colleges.. players are biased and barely keep it real.. only thing they offer insight on is locker room talk
How yall going to say fired on the thumbnail, but Gil literally said 2 seconds in that he didn’t get fired… click bait at its finest
he wont be on the show next year lol thats fored but obviously skip is a huge peraonality they aint just gonna say hes fired they will say mutally agreed to split ways or sumn but either way u cut it they cut ties with him
Budd, hold the L. Skip was fired and took a super L after Unc left. Don't feel bad for him one bit!! Ratings fell thru, I told you so!!
Yeah these titles be blowing me 🤦🏽♂️
They getting too click baity. not a good look
To make you click and watch the video...
Skip did not choose to leave. His ratings have been abysmal, and he's amongst the highest paid at the network. Fox came to him and told him they had to shift
If he left or they told him that they still have to pay him a lot of money and think he’s leaving because skip is still a big draw with the right person
@@ceazemccallsr.6679 I don't think they even care. They clearly just want to cut ties with the colonizer completely
@@ceazemccallsr.6679no tf he not don’t nobody give about the old ass white man he built his whole shi off hating on lebron get his ass on
@@ceazemccallsr.6679nobody is watching skip, his ratings sucked since Shannon left.
@@ceazemccallsr.6679 stephen A and Shannon are far more successful without skip, skip without them clearly doesn't carry any weight he isnt a big draw at all
It feels like sports "podcasts" are replacing the normal debating format. They just feel more real and funny.
Skip just didn't have a good show anymore FTF is the best show out ill watch that anyday over a podcast
Facts
Ya but a lot of these sports podcasts are clickbait blow hards much like first take or undisputed. Gil’s Arena it’s majority style but no substance.
even PTI on ESPN feels like a podcast
@@terrelloates3568 They both do the same ish. Qualified individuals talking about the sport. One takes itself more seriously than the other
Kenyon Martin and Macants stay throwing Jabs at each other 😂😂😂 it's really important for the show to have that 💯
This is one of Mccants best takes. I like him SO much better when he isnt playing the contrarian chaos character because he really is very smart and articulate when given the right chance.
Shannon left and took the show with him lol
Absolutely 👍 ❤!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not feeling Stephen A with Shannon though
Show would be fine if skip had kellerman or acho or shady Keyshawn destroyed the show
That's when I quit too.
Facts. Havent watched since SS stepped off that set
I love that Skip failed without Shannon. Skip was so disrespectful to Shannon and demeaning with his taunts.
Skip did his thang for decades.
@@joearmstrong3866 You shining the crap outta of those tap dancing shoes lmfao......a chadddaaaddiii chaaddddaddiiii chaaaa !!!!
Skip was successful for decades without Shannon. He’s just old now.
@@Ackshuallymmm So he got old in just one year? LOL dude.
Shannon left and the viewers left with him.
Shannon's subs on youtube: 3.3 million
Skip's subscribers on youtube: 170k
First Take Ratings: 482k
Skip's Ratings: 50k
Skip is a has been and can no longer draw an audience. People are DONE with him.
To be fair Skip was washed and old by the end of his run with First Take. People only watched Undisputed because of Shannon. First Take with SAS and Skip was awesome though. @PotatoGunCamper
Bro was the most iconic generational hater
Super ridiculous takes all the time. And house ninjas let him do it. You know who they are.
Olympic caliber hater.
he was annoying . people need to get over this hate is cool stuff
He was showing kids that hate can earn you money and studios care about the number of viewers rather than the content
Man made millions yapping. Huge W. Enjoy retirement skip
Skip thought Lil Wayne and Paul Pierce was gonna save the show 😂
Bad bet.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I didn't want to hear Wayne at all debate sports
@@k.tmoney9915 Don't want to hear Wayne. Period.
@lnapjr76 so don't tf nobody forcing u
@@JefferyBradley-le1oc You fckin right. Like nobody forced you to respond. See how that works.
I love that you guys have a podcast I have learnt so much more from you guys than I ever did from mainstream media. Since being a basketball fan and player from Africa. I'm great fully for you guys please keep it up.
The problem with player podcasts is that they are not truthful to other players. They avoid the tough questions.
They always make it one big happy camp
Like the shit with Bronny. Everyone scared of LeMickey
Not always
I agree. At times I feel the analysts tend to look at things from our perspective the players talk from a player perspective which many of us don’t relate to.
I remember that Ben Simmons interview and Reddick never really questioned Ben. Ben just talked around alot and obviously he was full of shit.
The low views on his personal TH-cam channel is crazy
Yeah it is alarmingly low for someone with a 20 year TV career.
No it’s not.
His channel is just dry. He’s literally just sits their and read essays all monotone
Itlll@DrPhill96 it most definitely is, dude has some vids with barely 3k views
@@twizzy585ots - But how is it “crazy”?
I watched him and Shannon argue about everything! Skip was dead wrong for the whole Tom Brady career vs Shannon’s. Dead wrong.
Shannon started it Said his rings didn't count .that's when skip got pissed
Who cares he has long career and is paid,keep crying little baby 🍼🍼🍼
@@BigDic-qz8su u sound dumb
@@BigDic-qz8suyou speaking like Skip is related to Tom. And the funny part is, Tom went to do an interview with Cowherd instead of Skip. So all that caping didn’t even land an interview.
@@kevinstewart8054 y'all act like he called you the n word just because he criticized athletes skills. He never said anything racist black men were just being sensitive.
At the end of the day... SPORTS MEDIA is SIMPLY GOSSIP.
Not saying that to TRIGGER anyone.
But gossiping has never been a good look.
Just food for thought and a word to the wise.
Yes like GOATs Debating is so stupid. Not even a sports measure
Mate, that’s ALL MEDIA
@@therealneal3034 Pretty much. Indeed.
Lebron said some of you players don’t know how to flip a play without seeing it on the white board. Knowledge of the game is knowledge of the game respectfully
exactly. that's what it comes down to..
I was waiting on this comment. Like someone can't be an expert on something they STUDIED.
Bron also said his son was better than some dudes in the league so we can’t take his word for it. These fans don’t know ball most started watching post-2014 & watch casually
@@Sticktothemodelsbeat me to it 😆😆
@Sticktothemodels my Celtics done tore that boy a new one the other day in the summer league lmfao
Skip had a great long run, with a major decline in the past year and a half!
And I was praying on it
3 years
He didn’t transition.
Skip should have brought in Gil and cam newton to be co host
Once Unc left he was cooked. I don't think I ever watched it again.
@@certifiedchaos4643gil is simply not good on tv, he has been on espn numerous times and it didn't work
When Rashad said disagreeing with someone is frowned upon by the masses he’s talking strictly about the bronny situation and Brandon caught it immediately 😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
But you have to add full context. He might not be wrong, but he’s a notorious LeBron hater so people don’t want to hear what he hast to say about LeBron’s son. Literally its the flight attendant/pilot analogy that Gil brought up.
When I was coming up the OGS kinda took you under the their wing instead of hating, the Bronny situation is you whole grown ass man hating a kid because you don’t like his dad is obvious. The number 2 pick just went 0-15 nothing
@@juanellchapman4545nobody knows who Sarr is and he plays for a dumpster fire franchise… he’s expected to not pan out or if he can play he’ll leave in 4 years
@@kevinconroy6606what? He’s the number 2 pick he’s literally expected to turn out good wym
@@kevinconroy6606huh? If no one knows who he is how tf is he the #2 pick
Fans prospective that pays all the bills for players, owners and media. Without fans no one in industry makes money.
They seem to forget that. These fans are the ones responsible for their max contracts.
You white people do not pay these people
Still shut yo fan ass up if you cant play. Even if you bitches did, which you don't it doesn't give you a right to disrespect the players
Mannnn fans don't have shit else to do but slave away and spend money on dumb shit
@djpmaddog90 but the owners of the team who own the businesses so called fans work at gives fans jobs to pay their players!
He's 72...how long do you want him to stay working?😂😅
Them ratings was too low. FS1 wasn't bringing him back
How long did he want to work 🤔 🙄
I mean he was always a terrible analyst it was just funny to see him debate Stephen A and Shannon
@@datsapaddlin😂💯
@@datsapaddlini disagree at being a terrible analyst. He had a lot of great points on topics when it wasn’t about cowboys, and LeBron. But I think your second point is important. These duos have to have chemistry. Stephen A and Skip back then was hilarious cause their opinion was so different but they never got pissed at each other. Shannon and Skip first couple years were great. That show was dope cause that was when Shannon wasn’t taking shit personal. Honestly even when Shannon would be screaming at him, i loved watching them beef, but i assumed Shannon and Skip just understood it was good Tv.
He put two dudes on, had a lengthy career, got paid.
Sometimes your time is your time. He can come on as a guest now. He is 74 I think. So he rich, spend time with Earnestine, his wife. She deserves it. Maybe Wayne will invite you over.😅
He put Irvin back on TV after the incident. He wasn't bad even if I have some disagreements with his takes.
@@franklinfitzgerald6723the messed up part about that is he told Ernestine sports will always come before her when they got together 😂 I personally think from what I have seen about him on tv and based on rumors he doesn’t sound like a good guy.
Rashard on point today
He's on point most of the time. People just don't want to hear the truth or a difference of opinion anymore
You're nailing it, keep the great work!
Wtf is Gil talking about? In my 23 years of life I never gaf what my fav athletes did outside of sports respectfully.
A whole 23 years? 😂
MTV cribs how I am living etc
@@DrPhill96lmfao i know he f***ed off about 8 of them years. So it’s really about 15
@@DrPhill96 that's a grown man, at least he's not 15
That’s me asking my doctor what’s your favorite thing for lunch.! Like what da hell are they talking about. N that’s why u need a BALANCE. Non players view n player view bc players are too ENTITLED N COCKY
Gil looking at Kenyon side eye about calling fox 😂😂😂
Things hit different when the players speak on the game the people tune in for the players period 💯
Lmao no they don’t. It’s certain players and guys like Shaq just because they’re goofy. Every player is not a good analyst as guys like Shaq prove.
ESPN has already released a statement that they will not be hiring Skip back. Skip isn't leaving of his own free will. He was forced out and FS one is just trying to put it in a nice way
Of course, they only do DEI hires now. That’s why they have women getting way outta pocket on their network. ESPN is fkn trash
“You don’t have Black friends, you only know Black people.” -Shannon Sharpe. He told Skip this to his face about another topic but we all knew the intended target….
Stop acting like he called them the n word because he said certain athletes were 🗑️
Can’t go a day without playing the race card. That shit is old
@@aris_mendezrace cards never get old what are you talking about 😅
@arismendez There's no race card....only this skin we wear. It seems to have a strange effect on some people. Especially those who don't wear it. But why should you get upset. You're name is Mendez. You're one of our distant cousins. More distant than cousin in your case. What a pity...
@@garyspence2128 Pity party*
Fixed that for you.
Skip Bayless is the LeBron of troll media. And just like LeBron is diminishing, Skip Bayless is also not in his prime anymore. Why are you guys Clowning aging? I don't get it. Oh you guys don't like them but he's one of the goats whether you like it or not
Cause he’s a clown that made a real good living off of disrespectful comments & acting better then people
Skip is a disrespectful individual; they can clown him if they want. Skip does it to people as well.
Goat of what? His only talent was picking a good cohost to debate with and he can’t even do that anymore. He can’t carry a show by himself look at his terrible boring TH-cam channel he just reads off a piece of paper.
Man dont ever compare skip to LeBron the disrespect is crazy 😅😅
The goat of trolls is skip Bayless. Find me a better troll?
“NBA players don’t take anything personal” uh Gil, every other there’s an “NBA fight compilation” 😂😂😂
Rashad I’ll give you props on that breakdown. Well articulated and put together
The irony they're criticizing Journalists never played, but they are covering journalists' jobs
And everytime a former player goes on tv and criticizes an active player they say its hating. Athletes don’t want to be criticized at all no matter who it is this days
@@harryomar10Agreed‼️
But Who Better To Cover Sports, Than The People Who Actually Played Said Sports! 🤷🏾♂️
Most of them have a education and it's not hard to do there jobs plenty examples of x players doing very well that's the point most of the old media isn't qualified to talk sports and we don't want to go historical
Right, but also we talking about a child's game anyone can do not the same as doctor or pilot
Kenyon literally got personal with Rashad the last podcast? He’s a geek with a anger problem 😂😭
That's cause Rashad is a hater and an idiot. If you gone say dumb shit at least have a resume to stand on
Was looking for this
He did. I remember
That airplane analogy was horrible Gill
The typical fan doesn't care what their favorite player's favorite food is. We care about and follow what they do on the court/field. Cmon Gil!
That fitted tough Gil💯
Skip had a amazing long career run, he embraced being the Villain and never apologized for it, whether Gil want too admit it or not Skip made it Okay too be a hater like Gil is towards the 90’s and 80’s NBA
All you have to do is read the comments and see the joy being expressed by people Skip made cry for years. He was definitely good at his job. 😂
@@Mije101-bz8ph 😂😂😂 definitely was
Rare to see a sensible take on this. Gil is a generational hater but it's okay because he's a 'player'? In that case only the people that have done the job can ever comment. You can't critique a movie because you aren't an actor/director, you can't critique a worker on the quality of the job because you never did that, you can't critique the government because you never worked a government post? This whole viewpoint is incredibly shortsighted.
I think part of the reason why Skip Bayless lost ratings on undisputed is because of the statement that he made regarding demar hamlin. He never retracted that statement and the way that he treated Shannon the day after he made that statement and disrespect turned a lot of people off and it cost a huge decline in viewership
You're not wrong but if you read the comments and followed Skip there's a LOT of different comments and stances he took that further declined in ratings. The reality is Skip has been tanking that show and his own brand for years.
Black men act like Skip called them the n word because he called a athlete trash.
Ernestine going be stuck with that yahoo ALL DAY NOW!!! 🤣
Didn’t skip say he loved his job more than his wife or something like that
🙏🏿
great points were made... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love to see it😎
Like a true hater
Rashad was cooking on this one!
I can see why Skip decline Kenyon when he was on there bro use to stutter between every word
Facts😂
kenyon still can't construct a sentence. he glitches everytime he talks
Love his opinions but he is tough to listen to
Gil’s plane analogy is a legendary one. It applies to so many levels of life. But pride and egos ruin 💩 all the time.
My only issue I have with players saying a journalist never played but if someone has done the research and put the time in to learn the game and has covered the game for a lengthy amount time played or not they also share perspective that players don't have. If we went on this philosophy then there wouldn't be no news because that's how this world works. People study to talk about topics that they have covered for decades. Now my issue is not every player that has played needs to talk either because of the lack of journalism skills it's more emotional talking than actual facts and that's what players say journalist don't have so which one is it cuz it can't be both.
Imagine getting Skip Bayless on Gil’s show
Personal decline is funny asf… 😂😂 Kmart used to fry they ass
No he didn’t
That’s a lie. And I doubt anyone said that skip personally declined him. Why would they tell him that it’s not even professional
I never remember Kenyon frying them, so Idk what he's talking about. 😂
Kenyon Martin can barely form sentences, it's like his brain has to buffer for several seconds. I can see why you're a fan.
🧢 he stuttered/stutters too much to get his point across lol
Enjoy retirement, Skip. No podcasts, no First take, no Uncle Shay without skip.
Shay don't need Skip
These guys are real and honest. They don’t sugarcoat it, but their opinions are generally spot on. Love Kenyon & Gil especially.
when skip left ESPN I was back and forth when Shannon came on I never watched first take again but he left I left and never watched undisputed again
Skip morphed from a journalist to a tv personality and it killed his career lol
Killed his career by going out as the highest paid sports media personality on the network?
Everybody trying to be controversial and they are faking it, which is obvious so a cheaply made product.
He did great it just ran its course. The Brady melt down really hurt him.
People have critiqued teachers for years with having the schooling.
Which is dumb to do as well
Never understood why people who didn't play in the NBA are considered "expert" analysts.
U played?
@@hendrikdalnoot1989does he go around calling himself an expert analysts?
Many airplane mechanics don't know how to fly them. Sports caster are to report what they see. Just how health inspectors aren't chefs.
Because they study the x’s and o’s and the why’s and what’s and 90% of the players don’t know the what’s and why’s all this players podcast is about end really quick because it’s too many of them
Even if not the NBA, at least college. College, outside of D3, is pretty high-level, so if you lettered for 4 years you probably have reasonable knowledge of X and Os, along with perspective.
But there is NO reason fat Windhorst should be saying ANYTHING about basketball other than the business side (like contracts)
"Ya'll just walk out of separate doors, don't even talk to each other." 😅😂💀
Either the bus gon hit you or you gon hit the bus is crazyyyyy 😂😂
To say someone can't critique or analyze a sport just because they didn't make it to the professional level, is absurdly insane!
Exactly, we're the ones who buy the product and players/ex-players have no right to tell us that we can't critique them.
Actually no tf it isnt. You have no qualifications to criticize anyone whose job you cant do yourself. Nobody gives a fuck that you buy a ticket once a year
@@aydoboif you cant do their job shut your bitch ass up
Yall missed the whole point of what these guys as well as other athletes have been saying
@@aydobo literally none of what you said means that you’re valid. Just you watching is all that matters. You don’t have to BUY shit. 😂 You’re there to be entertained not critique how players play the game. It’s The audacity of some of you fans nowadays and what y’all say without the fear of repercussions.
Shouldnt have been talkin sh*t *in my katt Williams voice *
😂😂😂😂
He left
Because the show’s ratings were tanking, because Shannon left after the disrespect of himself and Demar Hamlin let’s be honest.
@@beddybeezyy'all act like he called you the n word because he called you trash as athlete.
@@BigDic-qz8sumy nigga so u gone let somebody disrespect you disrespect is disrespectful no matter how u slice it
Absolutely valid. I grew up playing basketball, but nowhere near the nba. These guys that played in the league are the real experts.
They're experts on how to play the game and nothing else unless proven otherwise.
Rashad cants, this is one of the best responses I’ve heard!
The only reason I listen to players podcasts is to hear first hand behind the locker room stories that reporters don’t really know about. However, even players have to draw a line in the sand whether or not to go too deep and not reveal too much information.
I feel like the ridiculous hot takes and screaming sports talk doesn't work anymore. Me personally I wanna hear normal sports talk
They let Skip go, he ain't leave on his own.
Correct he didn't just turn down that money
Prove it .since u know everything
Bro be like ‘we have a crowd watching us ‘ camera cuts to crowd, it’s 6 people and 3 work for the show 😂😂😂
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They COOKED this segment! Especially Gil pointing out the fact that we know nothing about our favorite players because these "analysts" waste a whole interviews squandering them
Nothing can replace the fan's perspective. Podcast by players provide better insight. But we can never have y'all perspective. We aren't pros. Your insight is needed. But fan perspective is a pivotal part of sportscasting.
Gil is becoming the Skip Bayless of podcasts...
Absolutely ‼️
If Gil is Skip Baseless, then Rashad must be his Shannon Sharpe. Is it obvious?
@@galactic4830 Rashad no one takes him serious, he doesnt take himself serious, now Gil thinks he knows everything about everything and only his opinion is the opinion that matters
how
he actually played so u sound dumb
“If I wanted to see a dinosaur I’d go to Jurassic park “ . Joysiah don’t get too cocky man. Wasn’t nothing fucking with skip and Shannon to be real. Don’t get to ahead of yourself as a host.
Facts. First things first is close in chemistry rn , and of course inside the nba . but undisputed in it’s prime was different.
@@tentoesdown9647Josiah sucks Gil he needs that small bread he gets😿😭
Honestly I hate him too. But the corniness is needed. Different blends of personality.
Gil said out of his own mouth that when he gets comfortable with hosting the show, he will take the hosting job from Josiah and he will get promoted...That hosting job you have isn't permanent
The disrespect got out of hand and it was only a matter of time before Shannon had enough. The minute Shannon started bringing props and doing club shay shay I stopped tuning in to see skip. Instead of grooming Shannon and letting him take over the show he started resenting the hire and he sabotaged the show. Shannon needs to bring Night cap to prime time and do a real late night tv show for sports.
Why is the truth disrespect black men got soft. No one talks about that
Gil look like he never sleep he powered by coffee and energy drinks😂😂 good show
18mil for talking is crazy
Sound jealous
No, for bringing in views, which brings in Ad dollars, which = more money for the company. Getting money is all about the value you create.
Tell that to any rapper, comedian, radio host. U really taking a dumb down perspective
@@PotatoGunCamperyea it's crazy 18mill to talk but teachers and cops and cna don't get 100grand a year yea crazy
@@hakeemblake3653yea feel the same way about them it's silly then we complain about schools and teachers
So we gon act like Skip didnt put a couple of Black folks in position to be where they at now?😂😂😂
So we gon act like white people the only people to ever put anybody on? How many black people put on white people? Mf's always wanna bring race in it, just shows their character
At the expense of shittin on how many before and after?
K mart all tatted up, looks like a thug acts like a thug on the court but he wants a spot on TV
🤣 chill
Skip was right
K mart did the show and he was always dressed in a suit
@@jaydell4039o wow a suit 🤣🤣Kenyon illiterate
@@greatone9102 he’s been there and has done the Herd.
Gil’s face on the thumbnail was my reaction when I heard the news 😂
I think the player podcast thing has a limited lifecycle though. Eventually it will burn out especially when it gets overly saturated and you come at it from a "I'm right because I played and you don't know what you're talking about because you didn't" standpoint. There will be outliers that will stick around for the long haul though like Gil, Shannon, Shaq, Cam, and other well known personalities in sports.
Rashad be trolling us on other shows. He was so sound in this clip. Bro was cooking.
He’s playing his role perfectly for the show
I’m so glad 😂😂😂😂😂 put ya glasses bk on SKIIIIp!
We need both sides because pro basketball players not the only ppl Thts apart of the game it’s 2 way different prospective
All these ninjas talkin like they eating! 😂 Keep the flow going guys. Great🎉 work🎉
Kay Adams is great and asks about the family and kids and is so fascinated with their lives and gives us great info. She stays curious and never acts like the expert. She asks questions like it's her first time learning, even though she knows the answers. Gets the players to open up in a unique way.
Rashad with the best take...talking proper English and er'thing 😂..."what has happened..."😂
I am with Gils Arenas with this he is leaving and he won't die In my words he has so much time put in working for a great organization no one should cry please the guy has a incentive package please the guy is okay
Nobody can know the game better than the player they understand the moments the pressure the skill level and the work to get there.
Imagine a non athlete to demand $25 mil to talk bout sports he never played professionally
Crazy
The Forbes guy that did the Chris Paul interview about investing was a small time reporter for the San Antonio spurs now doing a focus on business and black business men for FORBES 😂 these corps HATE sharing money with outsiders, it’s always inside baseball with them
Because you have to be entertaining
We don’t need to imagine. He is one of the most entertaining people in the world so good for him.
The world we live in dawg
Rashad was preaching and you could tell that he was emotional about it. I salute his bravery.
Uncle Gil got on the chancletas embracing his inner pap😆😆
Player podcast got plenty of weaknesses as well. Different than national media platforms. One will never replace the other
LOVE Rashad..🤣😂 "the TWO dividing points" then proceeds to outline 3🤣😂🤣
I like the new setup for sure!!!!!! Very professional!!!
I like Skip, feel bad for him if he got fired. He really knows his stats and I feel he plays the edgy role which gets him hate. SAS or Shannon need to get him a job.
I love that retired players are getting the opportunities to make their own shows. But at the same time, they have their own biases against certain teams and players bc of their own experiences. So it will never be “better” than a traditional NBA journalist/analyst
Rashad made a very good point and the purpose of “media” as a median from 2 types of people
Goooooood. Now just need ppl to stop giving SAS views and sports media can start healing
Kenyon is great. I really enjoy listening to him and how he gives you his insights from experience and speaks on the issues in such an intelligent and straightforward way. I could listen to his opinion on anything.
Podcasts are a throwback to Talk Radio, so the older folk get drawn in by the nostalgic feel of it. The young folk are drawn in because of the engagement through social media, so they get to feel like they can stay connected and they get to feel like their opinions are heard and matter. 🤔🎙️📻🤷🏽♂️
Ayy Rashad & Gil Snapped At Da End I Ain’t Gone Lie 🔥💯
Here it is: The good ole boy system is just about over! The non playing YT media analyst has always got on my nerves.. the black token ones too! The voting of mvp’s, hall of fame votes, 1st team, second team, all star voting by people who NEVER played. I’m glad it’s over
Rashad be trolling, bro knows what he be talking about too😂. He needs his own podcast .
I rather have Skip talk sports ANY day cus I know he not gonna sugar coat his opinions jus cuz he got friends in the league like players do.. players root for ppl jus cus they played on the same team.. went to the same summer camps or colleges.. players are biased and barely keep it real.. only thing they offer insight on is locker room talk
Great show... love your honest viewpoints..
see ya skippy.... bye bye
I watched because of the title. Crazy is he think I wanna know his favorite meal 😂😂
I believe the rapper lil Wayne said going to it could never amount to going through it. Nice point 🤔