POP-PUNK PERFECTION?? (Neck Deep "STFU" reaction)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- Neck Deep is back with their new song "STFU"! How does it compare to previous Neck Deep songs like "In Bloom" and "Can't Kick Up The Roots"? Are Neck Deep the kings of UK pop-punk? Find out in this review/reaction to Neck Deep "STFU"!
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There's an extra quotation mark in the title
'Ben seems very angry and negative.'
He's just from Britain. Being miserable and complaining about everything is a much-loved national pastime over here in the UK.
Facts
As a Brit I can confirm
Being bitter and sarcastic 24/7 is the british way
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA facts
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA No wonder if you think about the weather in the UK.
I think Ben getting his older brother in the band was a great move and likely will spur a new era. Must be surreal having the brother who got you into pop-punk now in your band and just trying to chase the dream of being Blink-182. I hope they totally embrace that for the next album and just have fun with it. I actually loved the last album and the experimentation on it but think a pure pop-punk album would do them well in 2022.
Seb has been writing/recording/producing songs with them from the beginning. He's been like a "member" all along.
@@AlexFarleyMusic Oh Damn, I didn't know. When I saw them live last year Ben made a big deal of his brother being on stage with him -- first time I knew he even had a brother.
@@dtPlaythroughs yeah it's pretty sweet to see him become an official member.
The lyrics, to me, sound like someone playing a character who's extremely dissatisfied with modern life and 'the state of the world' or whatever, while the chorus is a reality check answering that negative character with "STFU and move on". I'm not sure the verses 100% reflect anyone in the bands' views
theyve been saying that since like 2014 lmaooo
Thats what I took from it too. I think Finn is taking this way too seriously. I see this as sort of a way to calling out all the BS boomers that constantly share nonsense on twitter or facebook...
That’s literally the meaning of the song haha this guy is just critiquing it to make it look shit I don’t even agree with bens politics but it’s makes for some damn good tunes
Boomers dont even know that nft exists. It really is a young topic for people who are deep into internet stuff
Yeah, I didn't take his venting as "boomer" at all. I thought NFTs were more in the realm of the youngish generation and countless people in their 20s are people that converse or complain about Trump and American politics in general
My dad is a Middle Eastern man living in the Middle East in his 60s and he knows what NFTs are lol. Pls.
Many millenials wouldn't know NFTSs either
Angry boomer calls young man angry boomer
Ben talked about when writing this song he just wanted to vent a bit in this one particular song. I don't think this is his permanent headspace from what I've heard in interviews and when he talked about it on stage a couple days ago. So I think putting the emphasis on him living his life like this is not exactly right. Anyway I think the song is a banger and it absolutely went off at Slam Dunk Fest this weekend so I'm happy
My thought was "maybe he just wants a vent song" (obviously corroborated by his statement) and my question in addition to that was "what's wrong with the occasional vent song"? I'd understand the annoyance with this if it was an entire album
Dont you think hes making fun of the people complaining about the things he mentions in the song? I mean he's telling himself to shut the fuck up after saying that stuff. That's how I interpret it at least.
Exactly. A lot of Ben's lyrics revolve around social commentary.
I think its fair to say Neck Deep are THE leading band from the 2010-2015 class of pop punk
Tssf downgraded a lot. So i agree w you
I wanna say state champs or knuckle puck to me.
@@badreligionmike SC top 3
@@mateusmoco1540 have you checked out parker's other band no pressure?
@@jessgarbanzobean yes, amazing Record. Just listened. One of the best in 15 yeaars
Could the meaning of the chorus be Ben telling himself to shut up about everything he’s complaining about in the verse 🤔
For me it's the meaning. That's self awareness, putting things into perspective and admitting a mistake.
That's the way I read into it too. He's complaining about various things in the verses then in the chorus he's telling himself to just stop and stfu. Hence the "I think I had an idea once
But I think that I forgot, maybe I should just shut the fuck up and go along with it"
I think part of the beauty of this song is that the lyrics do come off kinda boomer-ish and cringy, but I'm pretty sure the chorus is Ben being a bit self-aware about it. Like he realizes the shit he's saying is kind of eye-roll worthy and he's telling himself to shut the fuck up about it.
LNOTGY is one of the best pop punk albums of that decade for sure, love that they're channeling that sound. Everybody reactivate your tumblrs, we need to go back to defending pop punk.
BRB hanging a Real Friends tie dye flag on my wall and posting DSLR photos of it to my Tumblr with a hand drawn picture of Hank the pigeon on top
One of punks defining elements is to criticise the man/the system but you're outlining that a pop-punk song SHOULDN'T touch on these points? Cringey execution or not I think this is a wild statement
Finn is a massive bootlicker so it’s no surprise he doesn’t like anti establishment stuff.
Whining about NFTs is punk?
NFTs can contextually be an issue to be passionate against (being an environmental/social issue) so I don't understand why that's the most outlandish topic to be focusing on in a song. Like I said, cringey execution or not.
The general statement you made was that they should, is essence, just "be happy" within their own contexts/lives. Like I said, cringey execution aside, your same argument could be applied to Bad Brains, Anti Flag, Bad Religion, the Ramones, etc., even American Idiot era Green Day, that they should just "write about something different and be happy with the system you live in". Almost writes off the genre as a whole
Not even accurate, it depends entirely on what chain they use. Go look it up
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA idk Finn I thought it made sense to me. Im a little older than half your age and I definitely felt like it was making fun of the stupidity that is NFTs and modern day internet culture. Unless you already have money NFTs are stupid and worthless. I’d say it is punk since NFTs are just the latest grift that rich influencers use to make a quick buck. Seems totally reasonable to bitch about that and not boomer at all, unless you caught the bug if you’re under 25 you probably hate NFTs.
The complaints about the lyrics here are strange to me. While pop-punk has often focused more on personal life/issues, punk at its core has always been rooted in social commentary and critique, and I think this track in particular really threads the needle in a very clever way.
Yeah, and a lot of that social commentary is also terrible. And besides that, pop-punk has nothing to do with punk. I can’t imagine anyone in Neck Deep grew up listening to Crass or Nausea.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Some pop-punk artists still give a shit about making some sort of statement or getting a message across. And they don't need to have been fans of whatever old man gatekeeper bands that you lost your virginity to in 1995 to have credibility.
You're the punk rock equivalent of Ben Shapiro.
Finn. They opened with this at redrocks last week and even though it was literally freezing and freezing raining they had the venue bumping. Such a fun jam, too bad Dani isn’t on it tho😞
I was there. Such a great show as always.
Finn is the guy that got beat up in high school.
So true
I'll never forget selling my boombox that looked like that at a yard sale when I was 15. I accidentally left my CD of The Poison by Bullet For My Valentine in it. I was devastated when I figured it out hours later :(
Bro said he looks like a VHS porn collector 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠☠☠☠☠ im a Neck Deep fan but man that killed me
Nawh, I ADORE "Life's not out to get you" but there is something special about how raw and honest "Wishful thinking" is as an album. "Zoltar Speaks" bangs and "Growing Pains" is pretty perfect.
I’ve been listening to neck deep since rain in July and seeing them progress to one of faces of pop punk in 2022 is just remarkable, always gonna one of my favorite pop punk bands. Really one of bands in the 2010s that kept pop punk pushing forward when it went through the “pop punk is dead” phase in my opinion.
IMHO lyrics are just fine and fun, and they have the right "social critique" style i like in a punk (even pop punk) song. Sometimes it's simply fine to be "negative" about something, in order to gain more awerness of problems and try to solve them, it doesn't mean to be a "boomer" c'mon man. The history of punk it's full of examples: think about American Idiot!
Ben's look reminds me of a dude who would wake and bake and was the on campus weed dealer in 2002.
If you don’t complain about “the man” then nothing changes
Do you advocate pop punk bands writing songs about The Man like the punk bands of the late 70s did? I much prefer non-political songs but I think it's fresh to hear a somewhat political song in the pop punk world
I love that you're keeping up with new music for reaction videos. They make for great recommendations (esp the context section). Keep it up!
"this punk group complains about the man too much" fucking WHAT
Neck Deep is punk?
Well, your 'Donald Trump living in your head rent free, move on' commentary aged really badly.
In the UK we have rounders which is similar to baseball and uses a bat like that. A lot of British kids play it.
I mean the whole boomerish negativity seems to be ironic with the fact he’s telling himself to shut the fuck up and get over it repeatedly during the song
Finn, do a review of the no pressure album.
A no pressure review would be nice!
This is a great song and I actually rather like the lyrics. I think it’s easier as a homeowner in your 40s to say “he should be less negative” but as a guy in his early 20s these lyrics feel more honest than positivity just for the sake of it. The MGK thing was lame as hell though lol
But hes not in his early 20s. And it’s important for people to hear this regardless of their age.
Love the chorus and video/ that dudes vocals work for the kind of pop punk they’re doing. I don’t mind the negativity in the lyrics. I think it’s called stfu to highlight the same thing you’re saying Finn. The references to the same old talking points you hear constantly ❤️
Finn is really one to tell anyone they sound like a boomer. Nobody tries harder to hide the fact that he's out of touch than the guy who stans mgk
In my opinion this is the EPITOME of 2020s pop punk! Please bare with me and hear me out.
Musically, as you said you can't get any more pop punk.
Lyrically, I think it was great the man spoke his mind out and basically talked about his thoughts and interests, if you follow him on instagram you probably know what I'm talking about. On the same time they've covered almost everything that happened in the past 2-3 years or so. Lastly, pop punk (and punk in general) lyrically is based on pop culture, politics, whining and overall giving you that suburban feeling like you listen to your friend bitching about his problems.
Sorry, if that was too long. Keep up the good work man
Every time neck deep shows up as someone’s victory music is csgo I wanna pull my fucking hair out.
You didn’t even mention the paneling in that room. That alone makes the video S tier.
I had the exact same reaction when Ben started to take out the CRT. Then breathed a sigh of relief when he didn't smash it. Emotional rollercoaster.
The boom box turning to a Transformer comment is gold hahahahaha YES
5:30 ok but what about when people say “LGB” or “Let’s go Brandon”? That’s super cringe too.
Yes
i don’t like this guys criticisms not very objective and his opinions are so lame
Woah! 4:34 What's with the hate for VHS porn collectors living in their parent's basement? It's called a lifestyle choice.
Of things you’ll always love you in videos you forgot to say “Austin 3:16” shirts. Timeless
'this should be a cricket bat' killed me
and yes, it should be
Finn, please check out No Pressure. Their EP and new album are both 🔥🔥🔥
PLEASE
The first “perfect album” I’ve heard since 1999
@@B1055BH under soil and dirt aint perfect homie?
@@hadinasrallah8928 99.999% perfect
My only complaint is that the lyrics sound like diary entries or extended social media rants that rhyme. Call me artsy-hipster-trash but I actually miss more ambiguous lyrics.
why do you protect mgk so much LOL!
The start of STFU sounded like Down by Blink-182.
It's official! I'm selling my TOOL albums, to follow these guys on the road . Thanks , Finn !
lol since when was punk not complain-y about the man
I kinda get the whole "please stop complaining about the world" stuff. But like, British politicians literally stole like £300bn from the public while the cost of living has gone up like 40%. I feel like it would be pretty weird to not be pissed off about it
The song is good and all but the lyrics are going to be incredibly dated really quick
5:37 sounds like a shot at NOFX. Fat Mike has 100% become that guy. 🤣
Windows 95 those were the days, that dial up sound
This song is about online discourse not “the man”
All I heard when I first saw this on my feed was "New Found Glory".
To answer your question, yes I have picked up some of your merch. "Pop-Punk With Breakdowns" for ever!
Thank you!
So awesome you used Over and Over as the song when you started talking about them. That is my favorite song, from any band, and sadly I’ve seen them live 5 times and they just don’t play it anymore
Played it at Slam Dunk man, hopefully they keep it in the set list going forward.
Well Finn he's British. They love complaining BUT they usually make it funny which is likeable.
Can we expect a vid on the Dance Gavin Dance situation soon?
Lol Finn I feel like you're just picking on Ben at this point just because you have bad taste in your mouth from the MGK comments. Pop Punk has had angsty lyrics since the beginning of time.
This second channel is becoming the goat! Is there a reason why Kelen was kicked out of tssf? Saw them at slam dunk the other day, pretty sure their drummer was playing bass or something
“Creative differences” apparently?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA this might be a stupid thing to say but I didn't think the bassist of a pop punk band would have a strong creative direction lol
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA "Creative differences" is just another expression for "this guy is an asshole so we kicked him out".
What instrument someone plays doesn’t really tell you much. For example Jordan Fish “just plays keyboards” in BMTH but plays a huge role in their creative process
And Kelen is definitely not an asshole
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA that's a good point!
geez, with all due respect the biggest boomer here was you. maybe you should just.. you know what
TBH that NFT metaphor could potentially be expanded really well IMO. "Make a deal with the digital devil and sell my soul as an NFT."
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Royalty free writing prompt if anyone wants to steal my crappy idea.
Guy cared more about the CRT monitor than the song. Idk why I’m surprised he doesn’t get what the lyrics mean.
"Make A Wish" - Kyle Dunnigan
Can someone link when Kelen said Neck Deep was the UK Story So Far? I've been saying this to my friend for years and want to show him that lol
I really don't understand why a lot of people - including you here, Finn - always think that a Song has always be the actual thinking, behaviour, meaning or else from the Songwriter. I just don't get it. Do you guys also think about Theater or Movie like that? 🤔 Like "okay, The Actor is behaving like this and just said these lyrics. That is clearly his own opinions."?
What about writing a Song from the perspective of another person that you as the Songwriter just tried to put yourself in the shoes?
Another good example is in my opinion "Pretty Fly (for a white guy)" from The Offspring. Clearly, this Song is mocking those white overconfident self-loving idiots, not praising them.
To me, this is the same with "STFU".
My two Cents here.
Anyway, Finn. As always, I like your style on how you approach the Video.
How do you know what was or wasn’t in his mind when he wrote the song? Why is your interpretation more valid than mine?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA you are right, it is only my opinions or assumption respectively. The whole Video, the way he is dressed, seems to me to be a Parody of the Trump-Supporter who cannot let go.
Of course I may be wrong. You might be too.
My main criticism with your video I guess is that you did not say it could be another view on things. At least here you did not mention different options. Which is fine. It is your video, not mine. But I would not have commented this if you would have mentioned a different possibility. 😉
Like you said in your "Why Country Wins" video: "No Hard Feelings". 🤝😁
Yep you could be right too! This is recorded live with no prep, so my takes aren’t always perfect
100% spot on with the cricket bat comment.
While definitely not as big as Neck Deep, As It Is had definitely been killing it and making really great bangers. I feel like they’ve been getting bigger here in America, but it could also just seem that way because of our local musicians from our small area in Indiana made it into the band lol
Dial Tones is their #1 imo. That is the very definition of a pop punk banger.
We should talk about mechanical keyboards.
We should for sure talk about mechanical keyboards.
What’s your opinion on post punk? So many good bands came from that genre like the chameleons and the sound. Just curious what you like about that scene if you do or why its not your thing
So fun! Hope they continue with this sound they do it so well. Love the new state champs too back to that fun vibe . I'm not as picky with the lyrics as much, you do you personally as long as it's not that crazy lol
this is great!! i like you doing videos on things you like
Just wondering, what streaming software do you use? I’m looking for suggestions so I can start streaming?
Streamelements. Its free!
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thanks Finn! Does it work with a headset?
Definitely more "pop punk" than anything MGK has ever put out. No disrespect to MGK.
Full disrespect to mgk. People can like his songs but fuck that man
I saw them live some 6 months ago and he went on a 10 min rant about "the politicians".
Oof
Sounds like an angry New Found Glory
I'm sure there are a lot more baseball bats in London than cricket bats. Lighter to carry for runners.
On the next episode of living with the Trumps, he goes on to name check Boris (Johnson) which is basically the British version of Trump and their current Prime Minister.
I can't deal with people in the chat that say UK not in europe anymore like the did move country to different continent
if we could...
I really can't blame bands for still hating on MGK. The guy is literally the textbook definition of a tourist. He was just chasing extra clout because he wasn't hacking it in rap.
Like the guy can be as successful as he wants, good for him. But his very existence is a disrespect to the scene, and I can't see him ever being accepted by them after making so many amateur mistakes.
He was actually a very successful rapper so I don’t know what you are on about? He is an idiot tho.
even finn has said the "wasnt hacking it in rap" is a brain dead take. he had multiple number 1 albums. he was doing perfectly fine in rap. hes on record always having loved rock music and he made an album. im not gonna say if its good or bad but your points are just parroted falsehoods.
@@nonlethalnuke spot on! He was insanely successful as a rapper. He just wanted to move to pop punk.
@@thelittleowl1 yep. and while i liked ttmd and am indifferent to ms, i can see how tons of people wouldnt like it. im not trying to make anyone change their mind on mgks music, but at least hate it for a factual reason lol.
@@nonlethalnuke obviously you don't understand the connotations of losing a rap beef to Eminem.
I hope he's not on drugs he looks a little scant around the eyes. Hope the singer is doing well.
I'm pretty sure that he's telling himself to STFU about what he's talking about in the verses. Also, it's a baseball bat because they filmed the video in Louisville, KY....home of the Louisville Slugger. Not sure if it was on Neck Deep or Max Moore's page, but they had a promotional shot of Ben holding the bat with the Louisville Slugger logo out.
And besides, Europeans play baseball as well. I would even say that baseball is much more popular in Europe than cricket.
Neck Deep.. yet another reason European music is great.. yet Finn is still hating
Average european getting offended by everything 🥳
Haven’t you heard?? America claimed neck deep as one of our own in the 2022 pop punk draft
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA said by american lol
Ssshhh... don't tell him the UK is in Europe, I don't think he knows.
I never noticed how complainy the lyrics to this song are until you complained about it for a whole video 😂
That merch is fucking cool!
British people just love to complain, we love it
Cricket reference on point, Finn.
Hi Finn, do you ship to China by any chance? If not I’ll have to wait till I get back to Toronto to order something.
By Neck Deep I like Don’t Wait with Sam Carter of Architects. Check that song
I've never heard of necks deep but some of the references are to do with British politics at the minute and partygate
If you wanna see real american cosplay in punk watch hopeless case by roam
Hey finn, if you're wondering what England listen to it's
Pop: Ed, Dua, Anne Marie
Grime: AJ, Aitch, Ardie, stromzy
Literally that's it. No rock music I'm afraid 😅
Have cousins over there, can confirm this myself.
@@luke_cohen1 have you heard of JD Sports?
Biffy Clyro!
@@mykailyameen8277 Been to that store before. I also remember a Jimmy Carr joke one of the northern cities (either Birmingham, Manchester, or Liverpool) having a JD Sports with a menswear department.
@@luke_cohen1 Yh it's known for attracting chavs.
Talk about the new No Pressure album
Do people actually listen to pop punk for it's lyrics?
this just makes me want to listen to new found glory.
are you going to grow out of deathcore, nu-metal and pop-punk?
assholes like me used to snatch the keys off those mechanical keyboards back in school in the 90s. im wondering where the vid was filmed it really looks like here in the states, theres not really houses like that in england
I would have liked the song but over the past few years Ben's vocals have gotten more and more nasally over the past few years and in this song it was super prevalent. It gets super grating.