You can tell in this song that Yngwie being so classically oriented basically just threw on the drums to the track as an afterthought, just because contemporary music should have drums. I would have loved for him to have dared to entirely skip the standard drums on this track, and instead take some time to develop some real classical percussion. That would have been awesome!
@@richierich8334 You don't have to be a natural born Virtuoso prodigal musical genius to have an opinion. What do you think about the drums? Are they interesting in this track or more just to give the song a beat?
@@richierich8334 You don't have to be a natural born Virtuoso prodigal musical genius (Malmsteen isn't a natural Virtuoso either. He would practice literally ALL day whatever else he would be doing he'd have the guitar in his hands) to study and know classical musical theory and application. What planet do you come from, Mr. Snarky Pants?
Yup, Jens is a real genius and both he and Anders, as well as Marcel "Marre" Jacob contributed greatly to R.F. early days' mystique and overall appeal.
He belongs to the branch of Ritchie Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth. Yeah, his sound was very distinctive at the time, but he is as fundamental as the mentioned above.
I agree. If I have to pick 3 guitarists who most influenced the way the guitar is played I would say Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen.
One of Malmsteen's best instrumental but the live version is better. I'm not as big a Malmsteen fan as I used to be but it cracks me up how the haters will dump on him for being "soulless". The soul is there. You just don't want to hear it. Speed definitely doesn't equal soul but it also doesn't mean it's devoid of it, either.
They just can't hear it. For untrained in solfeggio people, who can't recognize melodies and harmony in fast tempo, easier to say "it has no soul" than admit that they have a bad ear-training.
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT yeah, somehow it's difficult for people to just realize "that's not my cup of tea" - it's not about the artist, it's about *them*
I think it comes down to IQ, how can someone who can't figure out 10% on their bar tab do Calculus, most pop, rock and blues music people listen to is really basic shit with 3 chords at most....
Funny thing is, if you listen closely to Yngwie's soloing, he doesn't really play faster than most shredders. It's his picking and precision that set him apart.
@@metalmark1214 Hmm. Have you heard Rob Marcello? He's the most meticulous transcriber I've yet come across, AND had insane fluidity and playing economy (like Mancuso and Josh Meader, by all means). th-cam.com/video/5430Eowb8ZE/w-d-xo.html
Oh man I miss Jon. Got to see him with Purple, amazing show. I'm a guitarist but I have an old Hammond organ because or Jon. I can't play it well but it sounds incredible. And I got it for free. Price was "get rid of it for me". The guy had 6 or 7 Hammonds and a couple of pianos.
To me, it's the "out of sync" that makes YJM 80's shred such a joy to listen to. He does his bursts and it doesn't come out as boring metronomic triplets or other tuplets. Very often it's 7 notes squeezed into a beat, and very often it's not perfectly clean, making it sound even more impressive because "it's so fast we're not even able to hear all the notes". Put his music in Midi or digitalize in any way (making it "rhythmically perfect") and it loses all interest...
If you want some slower acoustic stuff, I recommend the song Crying - also from Trilogy. Electric guitar is only used for the solo. If you want some vocals, You Don't Remember, I'll Never Forget is one of the songs he's best known for, and it is also on Trilogy. Mark Boals is one of his best singers.
Vinnie Moore, "April Sky" It's a mashup of 2 pieces by Bach, Air On a G String" and "Arioso for Brass." Tony MacAlpine, 'Porcelain Doll' based on a theme from Chopin, Sonata #3 Opus #58 3rd movement (largo).
Tony McAlpine " Premonition" was great because Tony went out of his way to write cadences that were not on other albums of his, or standard to classical . Yet Premonition sounded classical none the less .
Doug, you did Yngwie Malmsteen's Far beyond the Sun. How about a cover of that song done on violin? Unlucky Morpheus - Far Beyond the Sun (violin cover) th-cam.com/video/E2hZDzJp9Pc/w-d-xo.html
All his albums and frequently drums as well, he only uses bassists live. Which I think is a shame. He should write the bass but an actual bassist should interpret it. You can definetly tell it's a guitarist playing bass. Still a billion times better than what I can do
A reaction to Yngwie’s Evil Eye would be rad - Either studio or live with Alcatrazz. It’s a bit less popular than the songs you’ve covered so far, but I really enjoy the composition of it and slower (for Yngwie) tempo.
I could wrong but i think it's called Trilogy simply because it was his 3rd album at the time. Also at times during the various guitar solo's there is Jens Johansson "shredding" on the keyboards....(this was a popular thing that Yngwie and Jens did on the early albums)
The very first time I heard Yngwie's first album, it literally took my breath away. I also immediately correlated Yngwie's approach as that of a solo violinist , hence his being greatly inspired by Niccolo Paganini.
When I was a teenager hearing this for the first time and while learning guitar I really thought this is how Yngwie might kill a dragon with his guitar ... like on the cover. The three scale runs in the beginning are just such a ridiculous statement of virtuosity on the electric guitar almost unheard of at that time. It still leaves me in awe how he just screams out his harmonic minor scales and makes them sound so powerful and cool on the electric guitar. It just makes me smile hard.
Doug, I just checked the likes on Metallica's Call of Ktulu in the comment section of your Orion review, it's at 2600 likes. Can't ignore those numbers.
Doug, since you are fascinated by virtuoso guitar playing I'm sure you would like 'Tumeni Notes' by Steve Morse. He definitely has his very own style and added something new to the genre.
Another virtuoso Tony McAlpine. Check out his album "Maximum Security". He plays guitar and piano pieces on this album. I think one of the piano pieces is Chopin. Enjoy...
To me, he sounds totally in time on the fast parts, or maybe you meant the drums. All these years later, I still can't get over the fact that a guy in his early to mid 20s could play like this, on top of knowing all the theory.
As another guitar virtuaso to review, which I'm sure you've heard requests from others is Joe Satriani. Anything off Surfing with the Alien. Maybe take a poll which song to review.
And the drums have gotten way worse. His latest album is all programmed drums, probably by Yngwie himself, and it’s terrible. The sound and feel are just awful.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver I play drums as well, but i am mainly a guitarplayer (nothing like Malmsteen though) since 40 years and a songwriter who also is doing recording and have a band. What i am talking about isnt the sound really, its the static nature of the playing which comes with programming drums unless you are careful. There are no nuances, its like programmed drums where the velocity is set to the highest for every hit and where every figure is so identical it sounds like its copy/paste. For a real drummer its almost impossible to play like that and its also definately not wanted in most cases. In the two reviews i have read on the album both indicated that it might be programmed drums, one of these reviews was in a major Swedish evening paper. I havent really listened to Malmsteen since the 90´s at least what have been released after that, so i couldnt tell how the drums are on those albums.
Doug, someone else may have already pointed this out, but the difference in guitar tones you’re hearing in the solo section is actually keyboard. It’s keyboard and guitar trading licks.
I've always loved Malmsteen's playing and his attitude to stick with what he wants to do. I'm glad you mentioned the drums...I've always found them flat with no groove or emotion 🤷♂️ I wish the backing was less static... Still...what a player!!!!
Hey Doug, I'd like to recommend songs from two bands Rhapsody - Gargoyles, Angels Of Darkness Savatage - Chance The composers from Savatage formed the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, maybe you've heard about them.
Rhapsody is cool, but I'm not sure if Doug will stand the loud mix of the guitar in "Gargoyles". May be "Symphony of enchanted lands" or "Warrior of ice".
I'm really surprised he didn't listened to Rhapsody yet ! But if I could suggest titles, for a Classical Compser, it would strongly rather be :"Reign of Terror" or all simply "Epicus Furor + Emerald Sword" to discover first :D
Music expert can't tell what is guitar and keyboard and does not realize that it is 1) drums that lags and fucks up the tempo (due to editing?) 2) its not always sextuplets but odd gropings like 7 and 11
Hey just watched all your Nightwish reactions, I really liked them! Most of "reactioneers" focus mostly on the vocalists but you take more music theory approach which I'm interested in. I'd love to see you listen to "Beauty of the Beast" by Nightwish from 2002 if possible! (the album version, there's no good live recording) Cheers
I wouldn't say the drums detract, but I also don't think they really help the tune. What happens for me is I just tune out the drums and focus on what the guitar/strings are doing.
In the 3'05" minute you speak in a different sound. It's a duel with Jens Johansson, the keyboard player. Jens later played in the band Stratovarius, inspiration for Tuomas (keyboard player) to create the band Nightwish.
Just tuned in and what a pleasant surprise...Thank you!!! I think that if Yngwie hears your critiques, he's going to lose his stuff...Major Ego!.. LOL!!!
No Doug, his timing is perfection personified- as Yngwie would no doubt tell you himself lol! Agree on the drums, always thought they sound like a drum machine.
I always preferred the drums on the first album, with Barriemore Barlow. As for the drum sound, I think it’s a reflection of the times. That’s just how it was in the 80s.
Yngwie never solos to the beat, that's his unique style. As long as he ends up where he needs to be, tying the notes to the metronome is irrelevant. This gives him a unique soloing sound that no other guitar virtuoso has. Some shredders are so fast and so technically perfect they tend to sound like a machine. Yngwie sounds like a human...raw, but perfect nonetheless. The purpose of the drums and bass under the solos in this piece are to maintain the established the high energy, quick tempo, nothing more.
Doug , you really have to react to Steve Morse with or without his band the Dixie Dregs...University of Miami music school grads, you'll enjoy...cheers.
Steve Morse with Deep Purple!! Any chance of featuring Purple on Metal Monday please Doug. They are regarded as one of the founding members of heavy metal in the 70's. The late and great Jon Lord on hammond organ, was classically trained. Must to review would be "Child In Time" from Deep Purple In Rock. Cheers, al the best from the UK.
Love most of Yngwies early material,up unto the last 2 albums he did with Vocalist Mike Vescara,which were Yngwie's best with a Vocalist.But Doug,Listen to Vinnie Moore's Time Odyssey album or Paul Gilbert doing Bach's partita in D minor or "viking kong" ,The studio versions are always the best in terms of sound and a more relaxed atmosphere for artists to express themselves better(in my opinion),as far as the neoclassical influence Doug,these suggestions are worthwhile.
I've always thought 'Krakatoa' (Odyssey album, 1988) was his finest instrumental. Please review soon! Did you notice the harpsichord backing the guitar at certain points?
@@guthrie1181 you mean krakatau? Yea its a good instrumental its also pretty obscure like evil eye which is another overlooked gem. Black star and fbts are great tunes but he’s got so many other pieces of music that are great too
I've known the name for many years but never really listened. I've missed out on some fantastic playing from this gentleman that I need to catch up on. Thanks for bringing this.😋🔥reminds me a bit of Al Dimeola.
You're right about the guitar and drums not always matching up. Yngwie uses a lot of Rubato when he solos which is quite hard to replicate. He slows down and speeds up, playing with the timing a lot. The trick to making it sound good is then falling on your feet again and playing something that locks in with the drums to fool the listener into thinking you were playing in time all along!
The production is absolute garbage, I don’t know if this video is extra bad or if it really was that bad in the original. Cool song and cool composition but it has aged poorly and reeks of 80’s cheese.
You need to ear some virtuoso Buckethead works. He can go from total chaos to most melodic tune ever played! You can react to th-cam.com/video/Pas-cMsWIgM/w-d-xo.html for a first contact.
Ywgwie is the purest of artists, he only does what he is inspired to do. Looking forward to seeing him again next month live on his new album tour, Parabellum. One of the all time greats. 🎸
Good ear to hear that his leads aren't in sync with the drums. Yngwie often doesn't straight 1/16's or triplet, but instead plays shifts in and out of 1/16s, triplets, sextuplets. 5's, 12s, etc. In reality, he's probably just playing however fast is needed to get through the scale run to the target note. Whether that's skillful rhythmic fluency or just sloppiness is up to interpretation! I think it often gives his leads an exhilarating rush and flowing feel, but I think it's also often very self-indulgent.
I would also argue that the drums aren't in sync with time. You can clearly tell the subdivisions are off as soon as the drums come in. Maybe that's why Yngwie moved over to drum machines...
My favorite song from this album is probably the most overlooked as well. Its "Fire". Vocals and arrangement are on point. Also one of Yngwie's best (if not THE best) solos he ever played. Trilogy Suite fell short for me. Yngwie's stellar chops are there, but there's not much substance to it and it sounds rushed. Icarus Dream Suite and Far Beyond The Sun are his instrumental masterpieces.
@@forelectricstring8833 A bit later, the descending staccato run 2:54 according to my copy of the song. People say he has no soul but he certainly has a command of dynamics unlike other shredders.
One of the greatest solo pcs ever written! HOWEVER, for the haters, putting this album back in time context amplifies the significance the impact it had on the guitar community (I'm old... was there) :(
Honestly I think Yngwie is too sophisticated for non guitar player's ears. They always comment they prefer blues solos which are just slow pentatonic blues scales which are a over-tried overdone , snore fest for me.
Doug, you should check out Tina S, especially Beethoven Moonlight Sonata, 3rd movement. She has many other videos, all covers including Jason Becker's Altitudes, Steve Vai's For the Love of God, Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb, Gary Moore's The Loner, Dragon Force's Through the Fire and Flames, Megadeth's Tornado of Souls. All of her covers combined have more than 120 million views.
I listened to this masterpiece a long time ago, in let's say, 1988, I bought the Cassette (yes !). It's still so hypnotic and timeless, a really great piece of art. Thank you Mr Malmsteen, and thank you Doug, of course.
You can tell in this song that Yngwie being so classically oriented basically just threw on the drums to the track as an afterthought, just because contemporary music should have drums. I would have loved for him to have dared to entirely skip the standard drums on this track, and instead take some time to develop some real classical percussion. That would have been awesome!
Says you who isn't a natural born Virtuoso prodigal musical genius.
@@richierich8334 You don't have to be a natural born Virtuoso prodigal musical genius to have an opinion. What do you think about the drums? Are they interesting in this track or more just to give the song a beat?
@@richierich8334 You don't have to be a natural born Virtuoso prodigal musical genius (Malmsteen isn't a natural Virtuoso either. He would practice literally ALL day whatever else he would be doing he'd have the guitar in his hands) to study and know classical musical theory and application. What planet do you come from, Mr. Snarky Pants?
@@ManWithoutThePants the drums are shit, out of pace and sync basically the entire song. Plus, they sound shit
He did that on the live performance with the orchestra back in 2001
The different tone is the keyboard of Jens Johannsen, a virtuoso in his own right.
I think he said same during previous Yngwie reaction...?
Jens is great
Doug should check out some Stratovarius.
@@Kylora2112 yes by god yes even timo tolkki solo and side bands
Yup, Jens is a real genius and both he and Anders, as well as Marcel "Marre" Jacob contributed greatly to R.F. early days' mystique and overall appeal.
Yngwie is a fundamental piece in the evolution of the electric guitar. People can hate him or love him, but none can argue that.
He belongs to the branch of Ritchie Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth. Yeah, his sound was very distinctive at the time, but he is as fundamental as the mentioned above.
His first albums are brilliant, i dont know what the hell he was doing later though.
@@raiffesilva4908 yeah, I think the same. I supose he lost the inspiration. But he has a number of good albums.
Frankly, I think most metalheads are directing more exasperation than hate at Yngwie. 😁🤘🤘
I agree. If I have to pick 3 guitarists who most influenced the way the guitar is played I would say Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen.
One of Malmsteen's best instrumental but the live version is better. I'm not as big a Malmsteen fan as I used to be but it cracks me up how the haters will dump on him for being "soulless". The soul is there. You just don't want to hear it. Speed definitely doesn't equal soul but it also doesn't mean it's devoid of it, either.
The solo was actually guitar and Keyboard with a smoother yet guitar like sound by Johansson
They just can't hear it. For untrained in solfeggio people, who can't recognize melodies and harmony in fast tempo, easier to say "it has no soul" than admit that they have a bad ear-training.
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT yeah, somehow it's difficult for people to just realize "that's not my cup of tea" - it's not about the artist, it's about *them*
I think it comes down to IQ, how can someone who can't figure out 10% on their bar tab do Calculus, most pop, rock and blues music people listen to is really basic shit with 3 chords at most....
Funny thing is, if you listen closely to Yngwie's soloing, he doesn't really play faster than most shredders. It's his picking and precision that set him apart.
Yngwie has so many haters, but nobody can do what he does
th-cam.com/video/kLVNGF1gKWQ/w-d-xo.html 😛
Biff Barely Ha ha , even a kid Can do it. 😂😂 not
Axel Rudi Pell...on the german version! jajaja
Check out Tina S and Chinese girl Yoyo
@@metalmark1214 Hmm. Have you heard Rob Marcello? He's the most meticulous transcriber I've yet come across, AND had insane fluidity and playing economy (like Mancuso and Josh Meader, by all means).
th-cam.com/video/5430Eowb8ZE/w-d-xo.html
Credit to Jens having such a great keyboard sound that it didn’t sound dated 35 years later.
Indeed! Jens is a veritable musical genius, IMHO!
He was insanely skilled
That bass guitar playing....my word! Breathtaking.
Just remember, it's Yngwie playing the bass aswell \m/
@@Devypocalypse he's such a rippin bassist
Talking about virtuoso, why not Ozzy's " diary of a madman"? It's time for Randy.
I thought of this, especially around 5:00…sounds just like Ozzy (due to the synths). Also, I think the drums on this song are unnecessary.
@@joecironedrumming yep, thats why i recalled that song, XDDD!!!
Yngwie did everything except the following:
Jens Johansson - keyboard
Anders Johansson - drums
In fact, Jens was Yngwie's Jon Lord.
Oh man I miss Jon. Got to see him with Purple, amazing show. I'm a guitarist but I have an old Hammond organ because or Jon. I can't play it well but it sounds incredible. And I got it for free. Price was "get rid of it for me". The guy had 6 or 7 Hammonds and a couple of pianos.
To me, it's the "out of sync" that makes YJM 80's shred such a joy to listen to. He does his bursts and it doesn't come out as boring metronomic triplets or other tuplets. Very often it's 7 notes squeezed into a beat, and very often it's not perfectly clean, making it sound even more impressive because "it's so fast we're not even able to hear all the notes". Put his music in Midi or digitalize in any way (making it "rhythmically perfect") and it loses all interest...
His songs are so unique. 🔥
That second “guitar “ is a keyboard my dude.
Yeah! You're right!
YJM is also using the bridge pickup at times in addition to the neck pickup which he always uses playing in the higher register on the guitar neck.
If you want some slower acoustic stuff, I recommend the song Crying - also from Trilogy. Electric guitar is only used for the solo.
If you want some vocals, You Don't Remember, I'll Never Forget is one of the songs he's best known for, and it is also on Trilogy. Mark Boals is one of his best singers.
Vinnie Moore, "April Sky" It's a mashup of 2 pieces by Bach, Air On a G String" and "Arioso for Brass." Tony MacAlpine, 'Porcelain Doll' based on a theme from Chopin, Sonata #3 Opus #58 3rd movement (largo).
Vinnie Moore is a "must react to" artist. The Maze is just a wonderful album
@@billebs The Maze and Defying Gravity are both awesome pieces of work.
I'll take MacAlpine any day - just a joy.
Tony McAlpine " Premonition" was great because Tony went out of his way to write cadences that were not on other albums of his, or standard to classical .
Yet Premonition sounded classical none the less .
@@johnmcminn9455 I still listen to winter in osaka ,one of the most powerful guitar songs ever
Doug, you did Yngwie Malmsteen's Far beyond the Sun. How about a cover of that song done on violin?
Unlucky Morpheus - Far Beyond the Sun (violin cover) th-cam.com/video/E2hZDzJp9Pc/w-d-xo.html
Yeahh.. Great cover I've heard
Awesome! Try Crying from the same album for more "emotion".
Diary of a Madman would be a good song for reaction.
"It's Trilogy because it's three." ~Yngwie J. Malmsteen
"But ability isn't always enough. Just ask Yngwie Malmsteen."
-House, MD
If I’m not mistaken Yngwie played bass on the album
It is. The bassist was fired. The lyrics on "liar" is about him ;)
@@malawigw Marcel?
Yes, you can also tell because the bass is up in the mix
All his albums and frequently drums as well, he only uses bassists live. Which I think is a shame. He should write the bass but an actual bassist should interpret it. You can definetly tell it's a guitarist playing bass. Still a billion times better than what I can do
A reaction to Yngwie’s Evil Eye would be rad - Either studio or live with Alcatrazz.
It’s a bit less popular than the songs you’ve covered so far, but I really enjoy the composition of it and slower (for Yngwie) tempo.
The ending is spectacular on that one. Rachmaninov vibes 🤘
It really is his best piece I always thought
I agree, it’s a more interesting piece
100% agree, the live version is great
I could wrong but i think it's called Trilogy simply because it was his 3rd album at the time. Also at times during the various guitar solo's there is Jens Johansson "shredding" on the keyboards....(this was a popular thing that Yngwie and Jens did on the early albums)
40 odd years after this was release and still as relevant and amazing as ever
The very first time I heard Yngwie's first album, it literally took my breath away. I also immediately correlated Yngwie's approach as that of a solo violinist , hence his being greatly inspired by Niccolo Paganini.
Go away and come back and it's amazing, been doing that on ALL his instrumentals for decades lol
When I was a teenager hearing this for the first time and while learning guitar I really thought this is how Yngwie might kill a dragon with his guitar ... like on the cover. The three scale runs in the beginning are just such a ridiculous statement of virtuosity on the electric guitar almost unheard of at that time. It still leaves me in awe how he just screams out his harmonic minor scales and makes them sound so powerful and cool on the electric guitar. It just makes me smile hard.
Doug, I just checked the likes on Metallica's Call of Ktulu in the comment section of your Orion review, it's at 2600 likes. Can't ignore those numbers.
on the list...studio or live?
@@Doug.Helvering I much prefer studio, but if you prefer you could leave it up to your subscribers and do a poll, studio or live
@@Doug.Helvering Yes hear the studio version... it's a mind blowing
@@Doug.Helvering That's like nine minutes of the same two chords... good luck
I love the entire Time Odyssey album. Vinnie’s tone was totally unique at that time. Also Tony MacAlpine’s Edge Of Insanity.
Thumbs up to two of the legends!
Always felt Vinnie had more variety, definitely prefer him to Yngwie🤘🏻
Doug, since you are fascinated by virtuoso guitar playing I'm sure you would like 'Tumeni Notes' by Steve Morse. He definitely has his very own style and added something new to the genre.
The whole album of High Tension Wires is fantastic! My favorite off of that album is Ghost Wind.
The slightly different take is the keyboards of Jens Johansson starting 2:57, 3:16. Similar.
I was going to say the same thing - he's trading solos with the keyboard.
Duel keyboard vs guitar. Different colors indeed. ;-)
Another virtuoso Tony McAlpine. Check out his album "Maximum Security". He plays guitar and piano pieces on this album. I think one of the piano pieces is Chopin. Enjoy...
This!
Edge of Insanity is also great. MacAlpine - Billy Sheehan - Steve Smith. Just an incredible lineup.
And yes, MacAlpine’s first two albums each include a Chopin piece.
@@dreadpirate88 yes to both comments
The sick thing about Tony is that he's better at Piano than guitar, and his guitar skills are otherworldly!
To me, he sounds totally in time on the fast parts, or maybe you meant the drums. All these years later, I still can't get over the fact that a guy in his early to mid 20s could play like this, on top of knowing all the theory.
As another guitar virtuaso to review, which I'm sure you've heard requests from others is Joe Satriani. Anything off Surfing with the Alien. Maybe take a poll which song to review.
Or Flying in a Blue Dream
Circles please!
@@tomfabozzi6309 forgotten part 2 would be my choice from that album. Also nice comparison between styles compared to Yngwie.
Satch is way better than Yngwie
Crystal Planet is a far superior album.
Nice ! Doug you should listen to Steve vai “fire garden suite” (album version). This is a great piece of music. Complex and emotional.
Sadly Yngwie's tempo has only gotten more rushed with his newest releases
And the drums have gotten way worse. His latest album is all programmed drums, probably by Yngwie himself, and it’s terrible. The sound and feel are just awful.
@@dreadpirate88 Whats even more sad those are real drums, dictated to be played, and produced like that.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver Are you really sure ?, they sure sound like programmed drums and not very realisticly programmed either.
@@Stefan- Absolutely. I was drummer over 15 years, and he have albums wete drums sounded even worse then this.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver I play drums as well, but i am mainly a guitarplayer (nothing like Malmsteen though) since 40 years and a songwriter who also is doing recording and have a band. What i am talking about isnt the sound really, its the static nature of the playing which comes with programming drums unless you are careful. There are no nuances, its like programmed drums where the velocity is set to the highest for every hit and where every figure is so identical it sounds like its copy/paste. For a real drummer its almost impossible to play like that and its also definately not wanted in most cases. In the two reviews i have read on the album both indicated that it might be programmed drums, one of these reviews was in a major Swedish evening paper. I havent really listened to Malmsteen since the 90´s at least what have been released after that, so i couldnt tell how the drums are on those albums.
Reactions to "Baroque", "Midnight", "War" and "Tears in the Rain" all by Joe Satriani would be awesome. Think you will enjoy
LOOOVE Baroque... Also, "Thinking About You"... I miss albums having these little 2 minute pieces
Doug needs to react to some of the live Alcatrazz videos with Yngwie. Young yngwie live was a monolith that leaves ur draw dropped
Doug, someone else may have already pointed this out, but the difference in guitar tones you’re hearing in the solo section is actually keyboard. It’s keyboard and guitar trading licks.
thanks...that makes more sense
@@Doug.Helvering And keys by Jens Johansson probably?
@@grodanblogg yes, Jens Johansson.
And it is all multitracked to the gazillionenth degree.
Rhapsody of Fire - Queen of The Dark Horizons!!!!!
I've always loved Malmsteen's playing and his attitude to stick with what he wants to do. I'm glad you mentioned the drums...I've always found them flat with no groove or emotion 🤷♂️ I wish the backing was less static...
Still...what a player!!!!
Hey Doug, I'd like to recommend songs from two bands
Rhapsody - Gargoyles, Angels Of Darkness
Savatage - Chance
The composers from Savatage formed the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, maybe you've heard about them.
Rhapsody is cool, but I'm not sure if Doug will stand the loud mix of the guitar in "Gargoyles". May be "Symphony of enchanted lands" or "Warrior of ice".
I had mentioned awhile back for "Gutter Ballet" since he likes keys and also to put TSO on his radar. Lets hope.
I’ve been suggesting symphony of enchanted lands many times. Let’s hope he will do it someday
@@deciccohernan He surely will one day, let's keep asking until then.
I'm really surprised he didn't listened to Rhapsody yet !
But if I could suggest titles, for a Classical Compser, it would strongly rather be :"Reign of Terror" or all simply "Epicus Furor + Emerald Sword" to discover first :D
Pretty much the only Yngwie Malmsteen stuff I truly love is this specific song and his entire debut album, Rising Force.
Off the top of my head I'd agree! 😎👍 (it's been a while since I've listened through the albums)
I think Asylum trilogy are pretty awesome as well
When you commented about the different sounds in the passages in the first part, it is actually keyboards and guitar alternating.
Music expert can't tell what is guitar and keyboard and does not realize that it is 1) drums that lags and fucks up the tempo (due to editing?) 2) its not always sextuplets but odd gropings like 7 and 11
LOVE this album !!! One of his finest ones. Like him or not, his musical approach is just unique and his playing awesome.
Hey just watched all your Nightwish reactions, I really liked them! Most of "reactioneers" focus mostly on the vocalists but you take more music theory approach which I'm interested in. I'd love to see you listen to "Beauty of the Beast" by Nightwish from 2002 if possible! (the album version, there's no good live recording) Cheers
Master Jens on keys.
I wouldn't say the drums detract, but I also don't think they really help the tune. What happens for me is I just tune out the drums and focus on what the guitar/strings are doing.
Same here. I ignore the drums as much as I can
The drums may as well be a drum machine set to 'metronome' mode. Agreed that they don't contribute to the piece really in any way.
React to Crying from the same album.
suggestion for the next video:
react to The Cinema show by Genesis ;)
Yngwie is not in synch with the drums?
THE DRUMS ARE NOT IN SYNCH WITH MALMSTEEN!
I think that the japanese philarmonic performance of this really brings out some of the classical parts!
Almost nobody talks about the huge complexity of the bass and work in this composition
That's Jens Johansson on keyboards, truly at Yngwie's level, he's currently playing in Stratovarius, you should check them out soon!!
RACER X - "Viking Kong" is a tribute to Yngwie Malmsteen.
Yngwie Malmsteen I Am A Viking
Rhapsody - the dark tower of abyss. if you like D&D metal, you will love this. but Doug will hate the kickdrums :D
Funny. When this song first came out back in the 80's, I thought the drums were distractive as well. 😂
In the 3'05" minute you speak in a different sound.
It's a duel with Jens Johansson, the keyboard player. Jens later played in the band Stratovarius, inspiration for Tuomas (keyboard player) to create the band Nightwish.
Just tuned in and what a pleasant surprise...Thank you!!!
I think that if Yngwie hears your critiques, he's going to lose his stuff...Major Ego!.. LOL!!!
No Doug, his timing is perfection personified- as Yngwie would no doubt tell you himself lol! Agree on the drums, always thought they sound like a drum machine.
Everything sound synthetic... Soulless music
Anders Johansson played drums on this album.
I always preferred the drums on the first album, with Barriemore Barlow. As for the drum sound, I think it’s a reflection of the times. That’s just how it was in the 80s.
@@bitdevice and he is and was always pretty sloppy, especially live. Rudimentary orientating to the time signature and tempo the others are playing.
@@progmushroom what is soul is subjective. I get more out of this emotionally than any pink floyd song.
The Beauty of classical and heavy metal combined. Thanks Doug for showing us this song.
Yngwie Malmsteen - Crying c: Please :3
Yngwie never solos to the beat, that's his unique style. As long as he ends up where he needs to be, tying the notes to the metronome is irrelevant. This gives him a unique soloing sound that no other guitar virtuoso has. Some shredders are so fast and so technically perfect they tend to sound like a machine. Yngwie sounds like a human...raw, but perfect nonetheless. The purpose of the drums and bass under the solos in this piece are to maintain the established the high energy, quick tempo, nothing more.
Doug , you really have to react to Steve Morse with or without his band the Dixie Dregs...University of Miami music school grads, you'll enjoy...cheers.
Steve Morse with Deep Purple!! Any chance of featuring Purple on Metal Monday please Doug. They are regarded as one of the founding members of heavy metal in the 70's. The late and great Jon Lord on hammond organ, was classically trained. Must to review would be "Child In Time" from Deep Purple In Rock. Cheers, al the best from the UK.
Please react to MARTY FRIEDMAN - "Rio". PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Love most of Yngwies early material,up unto the last 2 albums he did with Vocalist Mike Vescara,which were Yngwie's best with a Vocalist.But Doug,Listen to Vinnie Moore's Time Odyssey album or Paul Gilbert doing Bach's partita in D minor or "viking kong" ,The studio versions are always the best in terms of sound and a more relaxed atmosphere for artists to express themselves better(in my opinion),as far as the neoclassical influence Doug,these suggestions are worthwhile.
I've always thought 'Krakatoa' (Odyssey album, 1988) was his finest instrumental. Please review soon!
Did you notice the harpsichord backing the guitar at certain points?
So not Far Beyond the Sun, Black Star, Icarus Dream Suite, Marching Out, or Trilogy Suite? But Krakatoa? Come on man. Not even close.
@@guthrie1181 you mean krakatau? Yea its a good instrumental its also pretty obscure like evil eye which is another overlooked gem. Black star and fbts are great tunes but he’s got so many other pieces of music that are great too
@@knightfall9394 Krakatoa blows ass bro.
If you want a bit more original and exciting stuff by Malmsteen, you should definitively check Little Savage, Crying or Now your ships are burned
I've known the name for many years but never really listened. I've missed out on some fantastic playing from this gentleman that I need to catch up on. Thanks for bringing this.😋🔥reminds me a bit of Al Dimeola.
Essential Yngwie:
Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force
Alcatrazz - No Parole From Rock'n'Roll
Yngwie Malmsteen - Marching Out
Yngwie Malmsteen - Trilogy
Please react to THE ARISTOCRATS they're are an incredible jazz trio
You're right about the guitar and drums not always matching up. Yngwie uses a lot of Rubato when he solos which is quite hard to replicate. He slows down and speeds up, playing with the timing a lot. The trick to making it sound good is then falling on your feet again and playing something that locks in with the drums to fool the listener into thinking you were playing in time all along!
It's called "Trylogy Suite" because the album's name is "Trilogy". And that's because it was Yngwie's third studio album.
As soon as you start analysing rock music, it's game over.
Yngwie is God.❤️
The production is absolute garbage, I don’t know if this video is extra bad or if it really was that bad in the original. Cool song and cool composition but it has aged poorly and reeks of 80’s cheese.
You should check out Joe Stump. He does things a little differently, also a neoclassical guitarist
Doug has to react to Therion´s "Via Nocturna". Like if you know your music and know what is good.
Hey Doug how about you cover Savatage Hall of the mountain king or Rainbow Difficult to cure would be 😎 cool
Just don't let Yngwie sing. He can do just about anything but refuses to accept that he sounds like a dying cat when singing
You should also react to Viking Kong by Paul Gilbert, kind Sire. :)
Is good to know that I wasn't crazy feeling the off sync tempo between guitar and drums
It's time for YNGWIE MALMSTEEN - "Krakatau"
You need to ear some virtuoso Buckethead works. He can go from total chaos to most melodic tune ever played! You can react to th-cam.com/video/Pas-cMsWIgM/w-d-xo.html for a first contact.
It's a keyboard. The guitar is nilón classical acoustic guitar.
This is a guitar MASTERPIECE!
Ywgwie is the purest of artists, he only does what he is inspired to do. Looking forward to seeing him again next month live on his new album tour, Parabellum. One of the all time greats. 🎸
Good ear to hear that his leads aren't in sync with the drums. Yngwie often doesn't straight 1/16's or triplet, but instead plays shifts in and out of 1/16s, triplets, sextuplets. 5's, 12s, etc. In reality, he's probably just playing however fast is needed to get through the scale run to the target note. Whether that's skillful rhythmic fluency or just sloppiness is up to interpretation! I think it often gives his leads an exhilarating rush and flowing feel, but I think it's also often very self-indulgent.
Yngwie probably picked that up from Holdsworth
I would also argue that the drums aren't in sync with time. You can clearly tell the subdivisions are off as soon as the drums come in. Maybe that's why Yngwie moved over to drum machines...
Nailed it. Yep. YJM just goes for it. He's not a "clinician" like most shredders are....Not a bad thing.
"it's a different sound" - lol, that was a keyboard Doug
Review the song Blue by Yngwie. You won't be disappointed.
You should definitely listen Rising Force from Yngwie.
My favorite song from this album is probably the most overlooked as well. Its "Fire". Vocals and arrangement are on point. Also one of Yngwie's best (if not THE best) solos he ever played.
Trilogy Suite fell short for me. Yngwie's stellar chops are there, but there's not much substance to it and it sounds rushed. Icarus Dream Suite and Far Beyond The Sun are his instrumental masterpieces.
I love the staccato run he does in the Fire solo. Still gets me nearly 40 years later.
@@SPQRTempus Yes! 👍
@@SPQRTempus you mean the slow descending at 2:54? (of "fire" of course)
@@forelectricstring8833 A bit later, the descending staccato run 2:54 according to my copy of the song. People say he has no soul but he certainly has a command of dynamics unlike other shredders.
@@SPQRTempus yes I made a mistake when writing it
One of the greatest solo pcs ever written! HOWEVER, for the haters, putting this album back in time context amplifies the significance the impact it had on the guitar community (I'm old... was there) :(
Honestly I think Yngwie is too sophisticated for non guitar player's ears.
They always comment they prefer blues solos which are just slow pentatonic blues scales which are a over-tried overdone , snore fest for me.
Please analyze Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman. I love the mood created by the music and lyrics.
That's the one to do from Ozzy's songs.
Doug, you should check out Tina S, especially Beethoven Moonlight Sonata, 3rd movement. She has many other videos, all covers including Jason Becker's Altitudes, Steve Vai's For the Love of God, Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb, Gary Moore's The Loner, Dragon Force's Through the Fire and Flames, Megadeth's Tornado of Souls. All of her covers combined have more than 120 million views.
People who talk trash about Yngwie playing is not even a hair on Yngwie ass😂
Please do "Fish On (Fisherman Chronicles, Chapter II)" by Primus, preferably the studio version🙏🏻
Ingewe is awesome, however sometimes music gets lost in it's technicality
Doug assured Yngwie Malmsteen that you don't remember and I'll never forget.
Well, I am a Viking and that will give you anguish and fear.
Unlike Icarus' Dream, Doug flew Far Beyond the Sun and reached the Black Star.
@@metalmark1214 Finally- BLACK STAR❣
The first section reminds me of Tumeni Notes by Steve Morse
I always prefer Asylum trilogy… but this one is damn fine
I listened to this masterpiece a long time ago, in let's say, 1988, I bought the Cassette (yes !). It's still so hypnotic and timeless, a really great piece of art. Thank you Mr Malmsteen, and thank you Doug, of course.
When you talk about different tones beginning at 2:57, don't be surprised, since it's a duel between Malmsteen and the keyboard player lol...