Just checked out Wikitree. Not many ancestors on there and ones that were had many errors or little info (not even any standard info easily found on said ancestors wikipedia page). However, I did see there is a branch I had no information on, so I have something to investigate! I will have to add wikitree to my project list. I fixed the General's profile, info & added a photo, we'll see if anyone comments on the changes I made.
I have been on WikiTree about a month and am slowly adding my ancestors. I LOVE the collaboration and the idea of one tree. I love to see connections happen. This was a great video.
Wonderful! I'm so glad you're finding WikiTree valuable. Feel free to share the video so others can discover the platform and the things you love about it.
This was one of our many attempts to have show and tell with interviews. We'll keep trying new things. We likely won't turn off the cameras because you can get that on any other genealogy channel. So, we'll keep working on solutions to magnify the screen. Thanks for your patience.
Problem with WikiTrees and Family search etc. is that someone else can make changes. I have found that they are making changes to parts of family and they are wrong.
I don't see that as a problem but rather an opportunity. On WikiTree you have more control over the changes if you are a profile manager. On FamilySearch, you just have to work with the other researcher and share your sources. Since so many errors keep propagating from people copying bad trees, I think the collaboration will eventually help us arrive at correct trees sooner if we're patient.
Yup, I submitted a partial tree on Family Search and people got stupid deleting and making changes. One woman took my Great Grandmother off and married My Great Grandfather to his daughter. I changed it and she changed it back. It is sickening.
@@caroldunk.3481 if someone is making changes that are contradicted by the sources you add, and they refuse to collaborate, you can ask for a mentor to intervene and help fix the situation. There are a lot of experienced volunteers and leaders who can help!
I'm glad you like that platform. I wish all would strive to build a family tree worthy of all acceptation. But that requires people to peer review each other's trees. th-cam.com/video/TZ1OxL1aFdA/w-d-xo.html
Looks like it is time consuming to sit and individually add each source from places you may have them, Would be nice if you could bring over all your sources from a particular site, or program on your computer, in one fell swoop. For some ancestors it may be easy because they only have 2 or 3 sources but I have some with at least 10. I am not sure I want to join if I have to devote that much time to each and every person that I may have in a GEDCOM file to make sure all their sources are in place. Am I missing something or is it easier than moving them one at a time?
You are not missing something. There is a way to upload a Gedcom file so long as it's smaller than 5000 persons, but then you create duplicates and that becomes a problem. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GEDCOM
It happens on every platform. However, in collaborative environments that focus on source citations, things do tend to work themselves out. It's also been my experience that serious researchers use Wiki, casual researchers tend to use other platforms. Have you tried WIkiTree?
It is the same way on Family Search. Don't post a tree there either. On Family Search people can take your info and delete and add what they feel like it.
Paul from the WIkiTree team here. The good thing about WikiTree is that the power is in your hands to fix any errors to make WikiTree a great resource for the genealogy community. Actually there is a large number of WIkiTreers who have taken it on themselves to add sources to fix and validate such profiles. Unlike many other sites all the source information is on the main page of the profile in plain view. You are actually placing your information out there for peer review. One of the benefits of a shared tree is that people come along who have information that you may never find by yourself, like a cousin with some family photos.
FamilySearch is also good in the merged, one big tree category and while there are some issues with the FamilySearch tree there are also some issues with the sharing in Wikitree. Have you checked out WeRelate? This is a good shared option however it only includes deceased individuals. I previously wrote an article about the combined use of WeRelate and Wikitree. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Combined_use_of_WeRelate_and_Wikitree
I don't hide the fact that I haven't used collaborative trees other than FamilySearch much because they lack the ability to search records and link them to the tree. Therefore, I haven't checked out WeRelate as my time is finite at this stage in my life
Thanks so much Michael. We've moved to New Mexico and life is settling down but 2020 has been economically and emotionally difficult for us. We do appreciate any and all support.
I use WIkiTree to "hard-source" my line. Ancestry/Geni, et al. I see as "soft-source" sites. I've encountered far too many "Genealogy Tourists" at the soft-source sites. I only use them as notepads for potential leads to hard-source, i.e. physical documentation I can house in WikiTree. Collaboration in WikiTree is a superb feature just not present elsewhere. As always, use the tool you like best. I use them all, but WikiTree is the only site I consider as near-authoritative.
Yes and No. Yes, anyone can add incorrect information to WikiTree but everyone who has changed that tree (and the tree manager) is notified of the changes. The incorrect information doesn't have to remain permanent. That's the purpose of collaboration. Meanwhile, on Ancestry, false information continues to be propagated as people are not forced to collaborate. ThruLines is not helping to flesh out the falsehoods. However, if folks fight about inaccurate information, it is nice to have our trees separate. In short, there are advantages and disadvantages to collaborate and personal trees.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics family is a socially constructed concept created out of Feudal law. The word family derives from the word Famulas which means to serve, be a servant or serf. The concept is based on human farming, producing livestock for the purpose of keeping westernized society alive. It is an exclusively westernized idea that did not exist with non whites prior to being rudely introduced to your society. Marriage is based solely on business which requires a license. Ultimately the family belongs to the government which is why there is a family court. Notice how the government via through religion sets the rules as to how a marriage works. The government can also take the children you produced from your home because it believes that the kids are its property. The government tells you how to raise the children you produce and forces you to enroll them into its school system. The family is nothing more than a servant to the christian religion and westernized so called white governments. Its a concept that needs to be done away with for good.
I am a wikitreer and I love iit. The fact that it is free is the biggest reason why I added my tree. The great community and friends that I have found, is the second reason.
NO it is NOT an automatic upload. You will have to go through your gedcom and choose which names to upload and which are duplicates. The point is to PREVENT any duplicate profiles, because every person on the global tree is supposed to have just ONE profile. I suggest you either start with a very small gedcom, or you create and add profiles manually.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics My post is for everyone that just wants the information of the topic. I watch LOT of videos and it's hard and frustrating to listen to intros when you are needing info for research because it makes the research even more tedious.
Great presentation, I was able to stop the video and try out some of the things presented. I found a death certificate for my great-grandfather and added it to Wikitree very quickly.
I don't believe I'd say better ... maybe different. They both have a lot to offer. However I believe I've actually learned a great deal more about my family tree on WikiTree than I've ever learned on Ancestry. But then I have access to WikiTree's "Relationship Finder Quick Links" (and what a fabulous tool that is!!! ... I mean WOW!!!).
No it isn't free. There some serious research that has been posted online for a number of genealogies, but not likely posted by those that put in thousands of hours of time and tens of thousands of dollars in travel to obtain their data and all it takes is one person (relative) to ask to see it and the next thing you know they're passing it around to others and posting it online on sites like this who make money advertising because of all information they've obtained at no cost to them. Here's the facts. A lot of people do genealogy for three months, six months, or less. They pay for subscriptions and look online and copy others research. These people don't collaborate because they don't know anything. Very, very few people put in real research time and money and continue researching for decades and a lot of people free load off their work including websites like this.
While I appreciate the cost behind the people who add their research to Wiki Tree, it would be incorrect to say that the website is not free. Since they do not charge users when they sign up for an account, that's the meaning of the word I have to go with. As for your point about taking the research from people who have invested in the hobby, I can emphasize your sentiments. I do not wish to discuss the full scope of the topic in a quick comment. There is much to discuss here.
The title "Reasons You Should Use WikiTree" suggests that this isn't a How To Videos but rather a why to video. I'm working on some how to videos in the future and they'll be clear as to what they offer.
Just checked out Wikitree. Not many ancestors on there and ones that were had many errors or little info (not even any standard info easily found on said ancestors wikipedia page). However, I did see there is a branch I had no information on, so I have something to investigate! I will have to add wikitree to my project list. I fixed the General's profile, info & added a photo, we'll see if anyone comments on the changes I made.
Thanks for checking out the website.
I have been on WikiTree about a month and am slowly adding my ancestors. I LOVE the collaboration and the idea of one tree. I love to see connections happen. This was a great video.
Wonderful! I'm so glad you're finding WikiTree valuable. Feel free to share the video so others can discover the platform and the things you love about it.
During demos need to zoom larger or remove Moderator pic. Loved the information. New to Wiki tree. Has cleared up some of my confusion.
This was one of our many attempts to have show and tell with interviews. We'll keep trying new things. We likely won't turn off the cameras because you can get that on any other genealogy channel. So, we'll keep working on solutions to magnify the screen. Thanks for your patience.
Problem with WikiTrees and Family search etc. is that someone else can make changes. I have found that they are making changes to parts of family and they are wrong.
I don't see that as a problem but rather an opportunity. On WikiTree you have more control over the changes if you are a profile manager. On FamilySearch, you just have to work with the other researcher and share your sources. Since so many errors keep propagating from people copying bad trees, I think the collaboration will eventually help us arrive at correct trees sooner if we're patient.
Yup, I submitted a partial tree on Family Search and people got stupid deleting and making changes. One woman took my Great Grandmother off and married My Great Grandfather to his daughter. I changed it and she changed it back. It is sickening.
@@caroldunk.3481 if someone is making changes that are contradicted by the sources you add, and they refuse to collaborate, you can ask for a mentor to intervene and help fix the situation. There are a lot of experienced volunteers and leaders who can help!
I will never ever upload my well-documented tree to any location where other people can interfere with it.
I am a Wikitreer, for less than a year. I love the dedication to good sourcing so that the ONE world tree is as accurate as we can currently acheive.
I'm glad you like that platform. I wish all would strive to build a family tree worthy of all acceptation. But that requires people to peer review each other's trees. th-cam.com/video/TZ1OxL1aFdA/w-d-xo.html
Looks like it is time consuming to sit and individually add each source from places you may have them, Would be nice if you could bring over all your sources from a particular site, or program on your computer, in one fell swoop. For some ancestors it may be easy because they only have 2 or 3 sources but I have some with at least 10. I am not sure I want to join if I have to devote that much time to each and every person that I may have in a GEDCOM file to make sure all their sources are in place.
Am I missing something or is it easier than moving them one at a time?
You are not missing something. There is a way to upload a Gedcom file so long as it's smaller than 5000 persons, but then you create duplicates and that becomes a problem. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GEDCOM
I use WikiTree, FamilySearch, and Ancestry in my research mainly.
It's good to have our family trees in many places.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics It sure is! 😊
Awesome video!
Thanks for the visit
The problem I see with this, is that I've experienced people who placed a lot of wrong information with my ancestors.
It happens on every platform. However, in collaborative environments that focus on source citations, things do tend to work themselves out. It's also been my experience that serious researchers use Wiki, casual researchers tend to use other platforms. Have you tried WIkiTree?
It is the same way on Family Search. Don't post a tree there either. On Family Search people can take your info and delete and add what they feel like it.
Paul from the WIkiTree team here. The good thing about WikiTree is that the power is in your hands to fix any errors to make WikiTree a great resource for the genealogy community. Actually there is a large number of WIkiTreers who have taken it on themselves to add sources to fix and validate such profiles. Unlike many other sites all the source information is on the main page of the profile in plain view. You are actually placing your information out there for peer review.
One of the benefits of a shared tree is that people come along who have information that you may never find by yourself, like a cousin with some family photos.
FamilySearch is also good in the merged, one big tree category and while there are some issues with the FamilySearch tree there are also some issues with the sharing in Wikitree. Have you checked out WeRelate? This is a good shared option however it only includes deceased individuals. I previously wrote an article about the combined use of WeRelate and Wikitree. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Combined_use_of_WeRelate_and_Wikitree
I don't hide the fact that I haven't used collaborative trees other than FamilySearch much because they lack the ability to search records and link them to the tree. Therefore, I haven't checked out WeRelate as my time is finite at this stage in my life
Sorry to hear about Andy's bad news about his job situation. Hope the requested support here gives relief in harsh times.
Thanks so much Michael. We've moved to New Mexico and life is settling down but 2020 has been economically and emotionally difficult for us. We do appreciate any and all support.
In 19:21-19:22 How do you link your DNA?
Great question. We made this video about the topic in question th-cam.com/video/nm7T2yq1Fow/w-d-xo.html
I use WIkiTree to "hard-source" my line. Ancestry/Geni, et al. I see as "soft-source" sites.
I've encountered far too many "Genealogy Tourists" at the soft-source sites. I only use them as notepads for potential leads to hard-source, i.e. physical documentation I can house in WikiTree. Collaboration in WikiTree is a superb feature just not present elsewhere.
As always, use the tool you like best. I use them all, but WikiTree is the only site I consider as near-authoritative.
You have a lot of great terminology and ways to consider the WikiTree website.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you :) I listen and learn as much as I can. I really enjoy your casts. Keep up the great work. :)
I love Wikitree
Awesome
Wikitree's BIG failure is that the family tree is NEVER "your's" because anyone can attach their incorrect stuff and contaminate "your" tree.
Yes and No. Yes, anyone can add incorrect information to WikiTree but everyone who has changed that tree (and the tree manager) is notified of the changes. The incorrect information doesn't have to remain permanent. That's the purpose of collaboration.
Meanwhile, on Ancestry, false information continues to be propagated as people are not forced to collaborate. ThruLines is not helping to flesh out the falsehoods. However, if folks fight about inaccurate information, it is nice to have our trees separate.
In short, there are advantages and disadvantages to collaborate and personal trees.
Those ancestors are not exclusively yours. I appreciate Wikitree's commitment to documentation.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics family is a socially constructed concept created out of Feudal law.
The word family derives from the word Famulas which means to serve, be a servant or serf. The
concept is based on human farming, producing livestock for the purpose of keeping westernized
society alive. It is an exclusively westernized idea that did not exist with non whites prior to being
rudely introduced to your society. Marriage is based solely on business which requires a license.
Ultimately the family belongs to the government which is why there is a family court. Notice how
the government via through religion sets the rules as to how a marriage works. The government
can also take the children you produced from your home because it believes that the kids are its property. The government tells you how to raise the children you produce and forces you to enroll
them into its school system. The family is nothing more than a servant to the christian religion
and westernized so called white governments. Its a concept that needs to be done away with
for good.
I am a wikitreer and I love iit. The fact that it is free is the biggest reason why I added my tree. The great community and friends that I have found, is the second reason.
Free and community. What a combination.
My husband is related to Henry (Tudor) the 8th. I will be checking this out on Wiki Tree!
I'm connected to Henry (Tudor) the 8th, but not related to him by blood.
Awesome
Apparently, I'm related to Alex Haley, author of The Autobiography of Malcolm X, As Told To Alex Haley and Roots. I had to check it out. 🤔
If I load my Gedmatch does
my whole family tree show up?
This website can help answer your question. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GEDCOM
NO it is NOT an automatic upload. You will have to go through your gedcom and choose which names to upload and which are duplicates. The point is to PREVENT any duplicate profiles, because every person on the global tree is supposed to have just ONE profile. I suggest you either start with a very small gedcom, or you create and add profiles manually.
Gets to the topic at 5:00
Yes. Live streams usually have an introduction period as most live shows do.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics My post is for everyone that just wants the information of the topic. I watch LOT of videos and it's hard and frustrating to listen to intros when you are needing info for research because it makes the research even more tedious.
Great presentation, I was able to stop the video and try out some of the things presented. I found a death certificate for my great-grandfather and added it to Wikitree very quickly.
Yay! I love to be told that our videos help you do something you couldn't do befire.
Love #Free
Me too.
#Wikitreeer Nice to be able to see faces to the name of other channel members
I bet
Same brick walls on Wiki tree as I have encountered with Ancestry, and Family search.
The platform doesn't necessarily break the brick wall, to be sure.
Wikitree is fun and I use it as a tool, but Ancestry is better
I understand the sentiment. We have to find the tools that work for us.
You have to pay to use Ancestry which kind of bugs me. Wiki is free. I would love if someone attached anything to my tree.
I don't believe I'd say better ... maybe different. They both have a lot to offer. However I believe I've actually learned a great deal more about my family tree on WikiTree than I've ever learned on Ancestry. But then I have access to WikiTree's "Relationship Finder Quick Links" (and what a fabulous tool that is!!! ... I mean WOW!!!).
I only use wiki tree for the royal and nobility Ancestry because it is thoroughly documented with the complete peerage and Douglas Richardson books
That's an interesting use.
I'm a Wikitreer.
Woo-hoo!
#free Wikitree is great.
It has many positive benefits. The community is second to none.
You said it correctly..its Portuguese
Good to know. Thanks.
I am on Wikitree also.
Yay!
I'm a WikiTreer
Way cool.
# Wiki....first time
Awesome
I'm a wiki Treer :)
Yay!
#FREE
Free is good.
#free
Me too
Looked up several ancestors and found NOTHING.
That's entirely possible. It's not necessarily a database to find records but rather to build your tree with other serious genealogists.
No it isn't free. There some serious research that has been posted online for a number of genealogies, but not likely posted by those that put in thousands of hours of time and tens of thousands of dollars in travel to obtain their data and all it takes is one person (relative) to ask to see it and the next thing you know they're passing it around to others and posting it online on sites like this who make money advertising because of all information they've obtained at no cost to them.
Here's the facts. A lot of people do genealogy for three months, six months, or less. They pay for subscriptions and look online and copy others research. These people don't collaborate because they don't know anything. Very, very few people put in real research time and money and continue researching for decades and a lot of people free load off their work including websites like this.
While I appreciate the cost behind the people who add their research to Wiki Tree, it would be incorrect to say that the website is not free. Since they do not charge users when they sign up for an account, that's the meaning of the word I have to go with.
As for your point about taking the research from people who have invested in the hobby, I can emphasize your sentiments. I do not wish to discuss the full scope of the topic in a quick comment. There is much to discuss here.
It's painfully slow and putzy to use. No thanks.
Thanks for your review
The information on this video is horrible. It does not show you how to use Wiki Tree. It is more about the presentators connections.
The title "Reasons You Should Use WikiTree" suggests that this isn't a How To Videos but rather a why to video. I'm working on some how to videos in the future and they'll be clear as to what they offer.
Tried and it was a fail🤷
What happened?
Wikitreer
Thanks for watching
I;m a wikitreer
Awesome. I'm working my way to the platform. thanks to Greg's recommendations.
wikitreer
Nice!
#free
There is that
Wikitreer
Thanks for watching. Your view and sharing this video can help get WikiTree more exposure.
Wikitreer
Welcome