Got the joke; chuckled. 🙂 Still, for anyone interested...in the tone of an old Geico theme ("...even a caveman..."), we're not so sure they were that dumb. New research suggests Neanderthals died out due to interbreeding pressure, not for lack of intelligence. If they'd survived they might have done better than we've done.
I think why most people are surprised is because they don't take into account the patterns of human migration throughout human history. So many people have moved, been conquered, have conquered, and as a result there's a lot of mixing in the overall population.
Exactly. My brother, for example, claims a Scottish heritage and is confused as to why his Genetic results show Scandinavian, English, and Irish, not Scottish. I've tried explaining it to him...
@Holly 12345 I was always led to understand the Irish and Scots, both being Celtic, were ethnically the same. I'm not sure how or why DNA would differ between the two groups.
My mum found her long lost sister through a DNA test, who found other relatives. It may not be accurate, but it's useful to pull broken families back together
Not the same test and different approaches. Believe me I am geneticist. Much easier and accurate to compare two people than comparing a person to many populations.
Short version for those who feel impatient: DNA tests do not test against ancestors but rather against the contemporary populations whose DNA has been collected and analysed by the companies. Therefore this is rather statistical analysis of the DNA and isn't certain, but rather uses confidence intervals to make it seem more certain than it is. Maternal haplogroup helps to add some certainty in some cases, but it's limited. Second point: The twins have DNA that the kits assert are either mostly Eastern European, Balkan/Greek, or Italian (they have some Spanish in some of them, too). This is extremely reasonable to have this distribution, as admixture among these populations was actually very common, especially via maritime trade and movement on the Mediterranean.
that's what confused me. at one point i did one through a mostly uk company and so they had very few germans in the database i guess, so on that one my entire german side was left out and referred to as Southern England. I'm still a little confused but that's when I figured out it's about matching your profile against those already living in a certain area. if those in that certain area don't have any of a certain part of your dna it just goes as undefined or they put it under something else as a best guess? i have english/irish/scottish/welsh and also german
another issue that's not addressed is that nationality is NOT encoded into your DNA. just because your family's been living in Sicily since your great, great, great, great grandpa, it doesn't necessarily mean your DNA is similar to a typical "Italian". Sicily, for example, has had Greeks, North Africans, Germans, Phoenicians and Romans inhabiting some parts of it since ancient history. Migration and history should be in the appendix to these results, as they can and do affect it.
lol...I can relate. I sooooo wanted to be adopted. Now, I have to accept how much of my parents that I truly am, from both nurture AND nature...all the way from misplacing keys to storing tissues under my left bra strap. 🤷🏽♀️
They seem really clueless about Sicilian history. It has been a melting pot for people from all of the Mediterranean (i.e. including Iberia and the Middle East) for thousands of years.
Right, do they even study history in school watching this video is so frustrating... Europe is mixed gosh ..especially Italy which was conquered by tons of populations.
many people dont think about this. its the sad truth, 99% of americans are clueless of sicilian history. it almost souds like a joke because 95% of us dont know any AMERICAN history.
I was adopted at Birth. At the age of 68 I was given a DNA kit as a gift. At the age of 70 I decided to use it. Didn't figure I would find out much of anything. Boy was I wrong. Not only was my ethnicity different than what I had been told but I found five full siblings, a half-brother and 35 or 40 first cousins.
@@stepaushi The video has nothing to do with DNA analysis about kinship relationships (save that the identical twins have identical DNA). Unlike the ethnic nonsense, working out whether two people are siblings, first cousins, parents etc. is very well based in hard science. The genetic "ethnicity" side is much, much more vague and wide open to different analysis. However, by finding out previously unknown full siblings, then there could well be a lot of information from genealogy. Incidentally, the idea that ethnicity is inherited via genes is nonsense. Ethnicity is primarily about culture, and you don't get that by genetic inheritance as one of the scientists point out.
I was also adopted at birth. I reconnected with my birth family before these commercial DNA test kits existed. There was enough similarity in our family resemblances, and in the paper trail, to corroborate I was their relative. No one felt the need for paternity testing. Ten or so years after reunification, I submitted a sample to 23&Me and it verified my birth parents were, in fact, my birth parents. That was nice but not the reason I submitted the sample; I am fascinated by physical anthropology. To @tomearnest198's point, over the years in my family, we have "met" a couple of cousins no one knew existed. Like him, I discovered I had two full brothers. I was able to search after I decided my need to KNOW who I came from was greater than my fear of a negative outcome. My experience remains a very positive one. I hope your reunion is positive, too, @tomearnest198. For many adoptees, DNA tests like this are the only way we have found our birth families and vice versa.
@@TheEulerID So are you saying that the kinship analysis is accurate? I was adopted and took the test a few years ago at the age of 60. I found I had 3 full sisters. Can that information be trusted?
@Social Justice Warrior no it absolutely does not I just took an epigenomics course and besides that I have 6yrs of medical school behind me and a 4.0gpa as well. You are full of crap buddy epigenomic markers does not=a change in DNA and mutations do not=a "change" in dna either. Neither does recombination nor the snipping out of DNA none of these natural processes=a change In dna
For one, no one has "1 genome" anyways; every generation of daughter cells have DNA sequence changes. Thus, you really have as many genomes as you have cells. It's even more important to remember that
I'm romanian, from eastern Europe. That country was occupied by the romans, the turks, the mongols. It also seen immigration from Germany, Russia. There are Roma people originally from India. I don't care where my DNA comes from because it comes from all over the place because people move around.
You don't have to care (you probably do in some situation though) but it's a little broad to say "people move around". Yeah... true... but it hasn't been some equal rainbow pie of everyone moving around everywhere. In Scotland, well you had Scottish folk going back 40,000 years, and you do have people moving around, like Irish, English, Nordic countries, okay. But that's not 500 different groups all mixing in Scotland over thousands of years. So yes people move around, but it's not everyone moving everywhere, and there is such a thing as a people, an ethnicity, a clustering of DNA to a particular home region, etc
That's very true. I'm actually waiting for my DNA results, hopefully soon. Both sides of my family come from the same town in Sicily. It will be interesting since history weighs heavily on Sicily.
I had to laugh when these twins were shocked over how much Greek they had as opposed to “Sicilian.“ Any student of history knows… Sicily was the melting pot of the entire Mediterranean. In fact, Sicily was a part of Greece proper for a long time before the Romans took it. And then later on the Arabs possessed it for quite some time. Know your history folks. And yeah… Take these tests with a grain of salt.
This is my entire thought process while watching this. Anyone with a cursory understanding of history would know WHY these results have different classifications for the haplogroups. If the actual HAPLOGROUP results were wrong, then that would be more cause for alarm. This entire segment made a mountain out of a molehill. Statistical variations and a growing data pool account for all of the discrepancies shown here. I'm really underwhelmed.
How about how the tests conveniently omits any African ( sun saharan) DNA matches.... i guess they feel Hannibals presence has been effectively breeded out!! ..lol!!
@thesix107 Yeah. OWOrder crowd like the idea of getting everyone used to the idea that we're all the same. Maybe, even to the extent of giving false genetic info to the world, while keeping your true full DNA for themselves (and some of the companies even have the rights to sell or use you're DNA for whatever else they want). Testing is a scary thing to be doing "just for fun"!
Wow, just a guess - timate ? The way they advertise, you think they's be right spot on, being with a genealogy facebook page though you find out different.... getting my dad's results soon...
Meanwhile my long lost aunt who was forcefully taken from my grandmother found us after her Ancestry Dna results connected her to a cousin... So thankful for this new accessible way to connect to our relatives
It seems to me that this type of situation is the best use of these dna tests. It could also be useful to get a general idea of what your heritage is but then I beleive you would need to do more research to know precisely where they lived and even then documentation of such things is very limited.
matching individual people is only possible with a true, full dna test to match with other true, full tests. these companies are looking at tiny portions of dna, and giving you the odds of where your people used to live based on the people who live in that place right now. ou did not find your aunt throuh the typical ancestory dna testing.
@@nonyabizness.original It is a starting point for many. I now have a lovely 2rd cousin who had been adopted as an infant. She found her way to our family after many years of searching, including several false starts. The initial lead was being identified as related to another of my 2nd cousins via one of these tests.
I believe Ancestry is the most accurate. An adoptif girl find biological real parents and in the same time that she was adopted thanks to that test A man meet his biological father too
Sicily was long populated by Greeks and Carthaginians (which were really Phoenicians), so it makes perfect sense that here genes are largely Greek and Middle-Eastern.
Greek is not surprising. Sicily was colonized by the Greeks before the Roman empire. The fact they are getting Mediterranean countries is pretty good. With so many migrations over the centuries, and nationalities being historically more recent, it's very possible that "Italian" is not what they get.
Exactly. It's just sad how history and migration isn't even taken in account when they are trying to understand the results. Italian is pasta, no more.
Lol. People are changing their entire lives based on who they "think" they are. Just be yourself, not who your ancestors, or what companies say you were.
While you're right, it's also true that identity is always behind whom we see ourselves as being when we are "being ourselves". That is because who we are is a function of what we believe about ourselves. We can place our identity anywhere...personality, skills, character, interests, race, nationality, etc. If our sense of self is built upon inner qualities or our skills, then we won't crumble over our genealogy. But if we build our house upon genealogy and the culture of that race, then that house will fall if it comes out that the foundation was sand. Ultimately, we don't know much about ourselves. We can't really trace our genealogies, despite ancestry websites, because we cannot assume every father listed is the true father. So this is not a place to build one's identity house.
Congratulations! As a family genealogist I have found remarkable results with AncestryDNA matching my tree. It has helped confirm that my research is correct!
We (my brother and I) did DNA tests 10 years ago and have watch the results change. We did initially do it to give our children a sense of who we are ethnically. (We're adopted) Ultimately, we've watched that result morph and change slightly over time. Our biggest result: We found first cousins whom we were able to find out who our father was. Unfortunately he died several years prior. We also found a half-sister! What a treasure!
That is awesome. I am really glad for you. Sorry about your father though. My Dad was never legally adopted but, he was raised by his Mom's mother & step-father. His mother died when he was 19 (3 years before I was born) & 3 months before my Mom met him. And to confuse things even more, his mother's 1st husband left her after having 2 girls together. The oldest 1 was only 1 year old when her Dad left & never came back. Dad's father, he too, was married & left his wife after having 3 kids but, was pregnant for a 4th one that he (I assume) never knew about. He had 1 boy & 2 girls & then when Dad was 49, I found out that he had another brother. A son that his Dad never told us about. Therefore, I am positive that Grandpa died not even knowing about this kid. Which is very sad. That Uncle is now 82 & the other one we knew about died last year at 89 years old; & he was the one that knew about my Dad from day 1. And even though Dad goes by his Mom's previous married name, his late brother knew he was his brother & even told everybody Dad was his brother too. Dad looks like my Grandpa the most besides that. It really freaked out both of his brothers & all the rest of our extended family too. They always said, there's no doubt in our minds who his father is eh. Sometimes the genes are so strong between 2 half-siblings that you would have never guessed that they were only half-siblings & not full siblings. My Dad is the youngest of 8 altogether which includes each of his parents' 1st families as well as him & an older full sister that died at birth due to a doctor's mistake. Yet, he has strong resemblances to all of these half-siblings that hit adult age. That's DNA for ya. :)
The more people tests the better the results are for everyone-it’s why it’s shows small changes or % changes -it becomes more accurate the more people are tested
Lol, my sister got one of these for my parents and it caused mad drama. First my mom's results came back telling her she was 0% Italian when her grandparents immigrated from there and there is still a whole village of people in N Italy with her maiden name. It said she was French. Since talking to the extended family, I think the test is just confused by the Northern Italians. Then my dad found out that his mom lied to him his whole life about who his real dad was... So, they should really have a disclaimer that says something like, "We are not responsible for the secrets of your slutty grandparents!"
I mean French and Italian people are both European you won’t see the difference and they’re soo near to each other it could be that her grandparents were from French but then they travelled to Italy
People should be aware, the reason why many southern Italians get almost 0% Italian on these tests and get Balkan/Greek instead is because southern Italy was heavily colonized by Greeks, and so there is an incredibly close genetic link. It all depends on what populations these companies have data from to compare with - if their data includes southern Italians/sicilians, you'll get that on your results. If their data includes more northern Italians, then you might see a lot more greek on your results.
I was waiting for them to talk about this. In history, there has been a lot more moving of people across borders (or borders across people) than we envision. If your ancestors have lived in what we now call Italy for a few hundred years, you can feel 100% culturally Italian and still look muddled genetically.
The Spanish invaded Sicily and Italy as well. Which is why that is very likely to show up as well. Just goes to show that everyone is a mix of something. Even if the tests are not 100% accurate, it does prove that no one is singularly from one place.
I took the Ancestry test. If it was accurate, based on my oral family history, it would be very specific - both sides of my family came from Friesland, in The Netherlands. It was one small spot in Europe, nothing else would fit what I was told. And Ancestry nailed it. It zeroed in on Friesland like a laser beam. In my case I can vouch for Ancestry. Did not try the others.
The people from Friesland are the original inhabitants of Netherlands who are living there for thousands of years. The rest of Netherlands is a mix of other near direct European country’s and they will get the same soup as in the video. Chaos of predictions and inaccurate dna results.
AH, and so am I a good part Frisian -- but my Frisian family comes from BOTH East Friesland and North Friesland (I know the cities of origin from records research) -- and both of my Frisian areas are often mixed in geo-reference test populations to simply NW European or Danish, respectively, or worse: 'Germanic'. It's the problem of the test reference-groups NOT having enough geo-specificity, and one needs to be aware of this in this work. DNA-level data shared is what counts. One can largely figure out nationality (ethnicity) by the paper research that must be undertaken once one has limited the scope of records-research.
And at 20:48 - if humans *already* share over 99% of DNA, a 99% match between twins should be in the remaining under 1%, i.e, about 4 decimal places out. When people throw out pennies as irrelevant, this is like splitting pennies into 100 more pennies then trying to make the smaller ones important again.
@Shayne Punim For these testing they are not sequenced, but markers are used. The same method is used to identify humans (or other species) in crime investigation. Some markers are mostly found in Euroasia, Afrika or Australia. They are not more specific than that. Sequencing the whole genome is way more expensive ;)
Not necessarily. My results were 87% British, and the rest was Sweden, Ireland, and germanic Europe. If you look through history, all of these migrations date back to the Indo-European people's. So technically, it is a pure ethnic result.
At 56, through Ancestry, I found siblings I never knew I had, a father I've never known, and his parents. I am his only child that looks just like my father and his mother. In my opinion DNA results may not be on the money about where you are from, but it can definitely identify who you came from. UPDATE:. We talk all the time. They tell me all about my dad, and the history of the family, sending me photos, the resemblance is uncanny. Im the youngest of 7, which includes me and 2 other outside children. Only one sibling with his wife is living (the person I matched on Ancestry, 63) and the other 2 outside children. the oldest being 73. My father was the same age as my grandfather, my mother was 20. I did find out that he had just been divorced when he was with my mother and he died a year after my birth.
Sorry, but the ancestry test is not solid proof of family members. Ancwstry themselves says you must check against the most likely matches then do extra research to follow the family tree or take a proper DNA test like Sibling, Paternal, or Maternal testing in a professional lab.
@@maryst77 no they looking some random strings and compare them with other continental's random strings. As much as that the part of dna's similar, they gave you the percentage. But as video says even the collected data dna from countries is vary and changes. Because they grab different parts of DNA sometimes and participation changes. There is no a certain string that tells you, your ancestors coming from a certain country. But parental or sibling test are 99.9 accurate.
@@tamilyatamilya Yes, I'm aware of all that. These tests, FamilyTreeDNA, ancestry, 23andme do match you up with people related to you, though, in addition to the stuff about your heritage, which is very useful for genealogy. I'm not arguing the accuracy of the heritage stuff. I was just responding to your comment that these tests don't work for people related to you (if that's what you were saying - I may have misunderstood your comment). I've done some of the above tests, as well as my family members and it's been very accurate for showing how we're related - although I don't doubt that there are issues for some people.
My sister and I in an effort to find out who our grandfather was took dna tests. I took 23 and me and my sister took ancestry . As a result we discovered that my mother who thought she was an only child actually had a sister, and we tracked down my grandfather and that part of our family. In 2019 we went to the family reunion which our new relatives held every year and there was no doubt about our relationship. As for our ethnicity, we are all mostly Irish/ Scottish which was not in doubt. We found the dna tests helped us solve the problem of our missing grandfather.
I did 23 & me. I am 68 years old. I found my mother who is 88 years old. 3 sisters and 2 brothers. I new my real mothers name so we are 100% sure. I new I had a lot of German and everything was right. It was a miracle at my age!!!
How many tests did you do? I’m trying to help my sister find out who her biological father is or what her nationality is. Did you know your moms or sisters real names or anything about them? And congratulations 🍾 😀👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"I thought I married an Italian. Turns out he is only 16% Italian..... " Okay,....what is this leading to? A divorce? Let the dead rest. Greetings from Germany. Good vid, good message.
If you were born in America you are American. People seem to take it that if they've had an ancester from Italy that they themselves must be part Italian. This concept baffles my mind. I'm from South Africa so I identify myself as either South African or African not English because of where my father came from or Irish because of where his father came from or even Romanian because of where his grandfather came from. There are too many variations in where our ancesters were born. People have to re-evelatuate their concept of where they're from and where they were born to get a more accurate sense of their ancestrial heritage otherwise it promotes incorrect information on their ancestrial history.
Amy Elizabeth Jacobs there’s a difference between nationality and ethnic background/ethnicity. Obviously everyone born in America is American, but my ethnicity is Irish-Italian. That doesn’t mean I’m saying I’m not American. ..?? How does that not make sense to some people?
Tbh I've met so many "Italian"-Americans who are only a quarter Italian yet they insist on calling themselves Italian and completely disregarding their other heritage, as if they have anything to do with Italy anyways, culturally speaking. A hilarious example is the American actress Ileana Douglas, her dad was mostly English/anglo-saxon, her mom was half Romanian/half Italian with a Romanian last name, yet she tells everybody her mother was Italian. I've even seen interviews with her where she's asked where her name comes from (Ileana is a Romanian name) and she says her mom named her after "some Romanian princess" lmfao, those are the exact words she uses, but she NEVER says that she's part Romanian too despite the fact that her mother's last name is something with an -escu which is obviously Romanian and not Italian. She straight up tells people that her mother is Italian and that she "identifies more with her mother's working class Italian immigrant side of the family" as opposed to her dad's "old school American side" and she says nothing about her mother being Romanian as well. Imagine having a Romanian name and a mom with a Romanian last name and saying your mom's side of the family is only Italian. Also if her family has been in America for three generations, she's "old school American" too. People like this are a parody of themselves. It's some weird warped cultural chauvinism to ignore 75% of your ancestry. Some lady who lives in my building is mostly Scottish but she tells everybody she's French bc she's like 1/8th French and she has a French last name. She couldn't speak French to save her life. Either accept your American-ness or Canadian-ness and say that's what you are, or if you're going to talk about your ancestry, acknowledge all of it, don't cherry pick 20% of it and totally ignore the rest because you think being Italian or French makes you sound "more interesting" or some such garbage. You have nothing to do with that culture anyways.
I recently finished Bill Griffeth's The Stranger in My Genes which has that plot. And then my brother took a DNA test, hence my current curiosity. The results of my brother's tests were exactly what I expected. FWIW.
Found a half sister this way we didn't even know existed. She'd been searching her entire adult life. My sister and I visited her and I knew immediately from her hair at a distance it was her. All 3 of us at that time a few years ago had the same style, texture, and color. All like our dad's. It was amazing. I think putting these ethnicity estimates together with a family tree can help fill in the gaps.
Your family come from Sicily=I'm italian... Ehhh NO! Sicily was Phoenician (Lebanon), Carthage ( north Africa) Greek, Roman, Vandal and Ostrogoth (German), Byzantine (balcanic) Islamic, Norman(French), and Spanish... So, if you are Sicilian you could have genes from all those countries.
@@Georgito555 Who do you think the subjects/largest part of the population were? I'm certain that the area that the Empire covered wasn't empty of people and loads of Romans moved there. It's like claiming that most of S.Americans are Spanish/Portugese or Indians are British
In practice, for these DNA tests, Sicilian means Greek, some companies put them separate labels, but some others simply fuse them. The point is that most of the history of the rulers, most of the time had no big impact in the bulk of the population that leads to today's labels being applied to certain autosomal combinations regardless of who conquered what when.
Thanks to Ancestry I found my long lost father who was taken prisoner during the Vietnam war. And I found my long lost brother and sister who are living in Siberia! Joy!
I confirmed the identity of a relative that was placed into a closed adoption over 40 years ago. I'd been looking since she turned 18. We are both so happy to know each other and looking forward to meeting in person soon. Sadly, her mother wants nothing to do with her but now she knows who she is, and I know that she had a good life and very good parents. That peace of mind is priceless to us both.
Yes, I was wondering about scenarios like this. In terms of ethnic analysis, they can only approximate. But I’ve also heard neat stories of long lost family members being reunited. So, I suppose what one is using the tests for can vary how one views the success of the test. I know too that some are even more geared toward health analysis moreso than ethnic origins.
Same thing happened with my friend. Sad it's like a blow to the heart. But there are so many things that motivate people. That you have to respect those feelings. Maybe someday the Mother will come around.
@@tulsaguy9963 That is not how she sees it at all. She sees it as having a child for people who wanted children and she has said that she has no right to any information on the child or that family. I also believe that since the father (now deceased) left her before learning she was pregnant, had three daughters, by three different mothers, and supported none of them, she doesn't want in any way to be connected to his family, which still lives near where she lives. But, she has never said that to me, so it's just a guess.
@@lorelleblackwell8556These mothers used to be told they were “vessels” to bear children for other people. This was emotional abuse, but they believed what was told them. My first mother rejected reunion, and said she was “merely the vehicle through which [I] entered the world.” This was cruel. She was my mother. I have two mothers- my biological mother and my adoptive mother. Both contributed to who I am. Nature and nurture. My first mother’s rejection of me, based upon what she was told to believe at the age of 19 and believed throughout her whole life, was a cruel joke played upon me by the adoption industry, her parents, and the maternity home to which she was sent. This was the mother that nature wanted me to be with. She was the one I bonded to in utero and was expecting and looking for when I was born.
everyone from black Africa has zero Neanderthal DNA, everyone from everywhere else has Neanderthal DNA, so Chinese Arab White Indian Mayan all have Neanderthal ancestry, FACT for you
I have had 2 adopted cousins contact me because they were trying to figure out who their parents were. I was able to help both of them get in contact with a parent. I think it's pretty accurate for finding family. My results have changed multiple times for my heritage. I just did the test for fun so I am ok with that.
These test couldn't test anything accurate. They're a rip off. Identical twins have ZERO DNA variation. They failed at detecting identical twins, lmao.
@@KN-oq6lv And every child gets a random selection of genes from each parent. Having the same parents only means you start with the same genes you are going to take a selection from - siblings can have very different genes from within that selection.....
Luna Sea When I was a kid I thought our Family was 100% IRISH because Mom & Dad both had IRISH last names. Turns out the O'GRADY name was more English than IRISH. We had to have some IRISH we were born with IRISH FRECKELS HA HA
Well I mean it’s very difficult with the current technology to find out the entire DNA sequence. They specifically look at a certain parts of the DNA. Of course they will have some errors and they update it over time. It’s great that they are updated over time.
The problem is that they are Sicilian, like myself. We were original Greeks on the island, conquered by the Arabs, reconquered by the Franks, and the Normans. That is why their DNA is that way. Ancestry takes all that info and makes it Sicily, others break down the Sicilian mix. My DNA follows the history of the island and its conquers. That is why it is important to know history. Mystery solved. You are welcome.
I don't even know why they even wondered about them not having higher percentage of 'Italian' ancestry especially if their ancestors came from Sicily. They really need to read up on the history of Sicily much less Italy.
@asdf Because I am the result of the Sicilian inhabitants that were conquered by the Normans. And yes, there are blonde haired, light eyed Sicilians because of this. I also have Arab DNA as well because the town my family is from Sambuca di Sicilia was conquered by the Arabs at one time. Just as I have Lebanese friends who are blonde haired and light eyed because of the same conquerors.
@@ArtistGV You can get dark haired and dark eyed Northern European and blond haired and blue eyed Southern Europeans. It doesn't mean because someone has blond hair that they have a Viking in the woodpile or a Northern European has an Italian ancestor.
Yeah, Greeks built colonies all the way to Marseille. Also Greeks are in the Balkan .. Italy was the center of Roman empire and people from all Mediterranean went their to settle and live the Roman dream.. anyone with basic knowledge of history would anticipate it.
@@iriszildikog.5036 It is more of the fact that you give your DNA and pay for it. If it is not concering that companies now have your complet DNA and all for free, then I don't know what is.
Yep, I've read that. Their only purpose is to collect data on human DNA, and not so much to give people the right answers. Money making is another reason.
Totally. They keep talking about how misleading it is, and omg they're even saying that they've given a best guess! And this one says it's only 50% confident in their results?! So yes, its an estimate. I have no idea why people wouldn't realise, or why you'd be angry when the companies actually point it out. I thought that's what they wanted?
Of course. The thing is, the more people that take these tests the more accurate they become. This is because the companies will have more DNA to extract and more information from them means you can pinpoint the locations more precisely. It's no different than doing medical tests on a broader population say...100,000 vs 1,000 people. The results will be more specific the more information you have, since no 2 people are the same.
It's the advertisements. People are really naive and don't understand population genetics. People imagine these nationalities or ethnicities existed since the beginning of time, unchanged. Meanwhile, they're mostly cultural fabrications.
My family on both sides kept ancestry records that were detailed and went back four generations. I did 23andMe and didn't know what to expect. I was not surprised by any of the results. It was exactly the percentages I had been told. I was expecting maybe a surprise or two, but nope. I was even given the same percentages of German, French and Irish from 23andMe that I had calculated from records. So there you go...my husband also got the results he expected.
What baffles me is that the reporter and her team could not find out that Greeks colonised Sicily and that the Balkan is neighbouring Greece and people migrated between countries for thousands of years (for example: Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a country in the balkans). Furthermore, you couldn't find anyone who can explain how statistics actually works? I mean, this isn't rocket science.
I was surprised nobody mentioned that as well... Btw Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a region of Greece and the country that is named North Macedonia today actually contains only a small part of the territory of the ancient greek kingdom of Macedonia.
Macedonians (North Macedonia/FYROM) are ethnic Bulgarians in deny. Also, Alex The Great was NOT born there.DNA tests do not take into account the population migration. Why Greece & Balkans and not Thrace?
I did Ancestry.com and their results were completely consistent with what I know about my background, I also hooked up with relatives that had more detailed background about our grandparents, etc. and found out other interesting things, I did it for the entertainment value. Btw, I love the updates, the results become more defined---this has to do with the expansion of their data base, why is this so surprising? it makes sense to me.
I think they just wanted to make a dramatic reporting piece and twisted the story to sound like this is a big marketing scam when actually is a result of the fact that the database does need to expand and will improve over time.
I did them as well. My initial findings fit very closely with my genealogy. Their update, however, for me, falls apart and does not really reflect well even the past 100 years of known ancestry. Something went way off on their update for me. 23andMe's update, however, seems more accurate.
Mine was accurate except one area we were Irish instead of what should have been german or similar area. Figured out via DNA relatives that my great grandfather was probably NOT my great grandfather. Trying to fill the gaps but we don't know my mother's grandfather is. We have leads, but we'll have to do golden state killer type research in building trees and trying to identify people. If there is a single adopted unknown who fell through the cracks in having a paper trail...it isn't going to be easy.
@@PapaPhilip in the update I found out that I am 13% Norwegian which was not really a surprise, I am almost entirely British and we all know about the Vikings and their raids, anyway, I highly recommend using findagrave.com which has some free info, when I looked up my last name (which is not common but very British sounding) I found a slew of people with that name buried in Norway.
I did ancestry. Not sure about my ancestors, but was immediately linked to known relatives. Also found my uncle's daughter whom I did not know existed.
The finding relatives is very accurate. The ethnicity part changes as they get more testing people around the world. The matching of dna is the accurate part. We just found a 70 yo cousin who didnt know her dad wasn't her dad. When we told her, she said that explains why this and that was said as I was growing up. Its accurate for finding people, just not the ethnicity part
I have found out that even when it says 0,5% common DNA in matches it lines up with how I am related to them when we compare family trees and find out we share a common ancestor in the 1800s
@@TheOwenMajor ...really now. Aren't you the same people in Australia, the Americas, and some Asian/African regions? Come on now. Every tribe move around A LOT. Europeans isn't an exception.
Love your comment about your dog! Took me totally by surprise never thought of swabbing an animal. It makes sense though, dogs have been man's best friend for many thousands of years.
I found my sister through 23 and me last year. I’m also a twin and we both took the test 2 years apart and the results are very similar. We are fraternal so I knew our results would be exactly the same but only a few numbers off.
Lol a deep dive into fraternal twins will shock you, especially once you realise that being "twins" (aka same womb, same time) doesn't always mean being twins (same parentage, same results but a few numbers off). Human reproduction can be wacky like that.
whoddaya My sister is 7 years older than me but we look very very similar. A few months ago she convinced me to get a short haircut (I’ve always had long hair) then got the exact same haircut. She literally just wanted to see how the haircut would look on her 😒
Actually: Greek/balkan DNA in Sicily are common thing in fact Sicily was part of Greek a long time ago even today you can hear a version of greek language on Sicily spoken by natives and when we talking about Greeks they are ortodox christians like a lot of Slavic nations from which have a long tradition of close ties. Carigrad today Istanbul was ortodox capital city with slavic/russian priests before muslims/Turks run over.
okay but why are they surprised to have a wide range from spain to greece, like it's the mediterranean, all those countries interacted with each other for literally thousands of years. idk i wouldn't be surprised for there to be a mix of ethnicities
I'm surprised they were surprised re their Greek ancestry. Sicily has a long history of being "owned" by various conquering armies throughout thousands of years. Greece ruled southern Itsly snd islands for hundreds of years so having their DNA still in the admix is fair enough.
Everything from Balkan and Greece to Northern Africa makes a lot of sense for somebody from Sicilian decent. The only surprising thing is when identical twins get different results ;)
@@stephanieyee9784 Sicily was visited by Vikings and their cousins, the Normans. If your land is near any large transport route then it got invaded many times over the centuries. Norway and Sweden....not so much.
I feel like this was a young persons over-exaggeration of not knowing what the tests are for. The idea in my opinion is to get a GENERAL idea of where you came from. There is no test available that can give anything other than this. Maybe in 100 years or more there will be something, but unlikely as DNA doesn't and can't be defined to an area code. The PURPOSE behind the test is connecting with people who share your DNA. That is the point, in my opinion.
I agree however the problem is these companies are misleading and will say “find where your ancestors came from” and “find out your ancestry” and obviously won’t explicitly state that certain things are just estimates and say how they get their results or else people wouldn’t buy them. It’s just simple marketing tactics. These commercials make an emphasis on “connecting with your culture of your ancestry” and “know where you come from” so you can’t really blame people for not knowing since they’re so convinced that they don’t bother to do the research not knowing that they’re misleading with ethnicity tests. Of course I’m talking about the ancestry/ethnicity aspect not the traits or relatives aspect which you can tell accurately from someone’s dna.
they were all still generally correct, the sisters are from eastern europe and the mediterranean. its not like it pulled up incan or something random like that.
But that's not how they're marketed and that's part of the issue. If the most confident response they can get is "somewhere in Europe" then that's not really telling them anything that they didn't already know. So in other words you're spending money to let somebody tell you what continent your DNA is from.
Watch their ad at 7:00 , they market themselves as if they can pinpoint exactly what country your ancestors are from, brits and germans are not that different but it matters when they say they can tell you the difference
@@luckyb3859 Closer to $99 and we'll tell you which continent your ancestors are from. Kinda. These tests are notoriously unreliable. And yes, people should know better but they don't which is what keeps companies like this in business.
@@umachan9286 None of my DNA results from 23 and me has been unreliable. I have been working with other family members on a family tree on both sides of my family and my DNA reports is lining up pretty well. Only difference between mine and an aunts on my dad's side is I got .4% Sub Saharan African (Congolese) and she has .4% Middle Eastern we both have 1% that cannot be identified. We cannot figure out where those came from because We have only been able to trace some family lines back to 1500s in Ireland, Germany, and England. The minuscule amounts of DNA are probably from much further back than we have gotten or from family members we cannot get more than 2 generations back on or are only able to get info on the mom or dad's side and predominately only The mothers and fathers are identified.
Yes their DNA is not shocking at all. Of course they have a lot of Balkan and Middle Eastern DNA, the Barbary Moorish pirates traveled all over there as well as the Roman Empire has had history with the Balkans for a very long time. Patriotism and Nationalism are silly for this exact reason.
My 23andme test results corresponded extremely closely to what we already knew about my family tree. I was impressed by the accuracy. My husband's results also mirrored almost exactly what his family already knew about their family tree. Results are probably more accurate for some populations than others, based on the sample size.
That's because us "ordinary" people don't understand DNA and expect it to reflect our modern concept of borders, ideologies and identity. It doesn't. It only tells us how we migrated through the world and who we married along the way. And, the data bases are still "learning" and that's why they change.
Katie Weird come on tho if you’re paying over a hundred bucks for something you should be expecting results to be accurate.. identical twins but one is from scicily and one Tuscany
Yes but they were quite acurate namely: Greek/balkan DNA in Sicily are common thing in fact Sicily was part of Greek a long time ago even today you can hear a version of greek language on Sicily spoken by natives and when we talking about Greeks they are ortodox christians like a lot of Slavic nations from which have a long tradition of close ties. Carigrad today Istanbul was ortodox capital city with slavic/russian priests before muslims/Turks run over.
They are just labels being applied so people can understand, the reality behind that is the haplogroups which is way much more interesting although much more complicated. What pisses me off is that these companies do the "keep it simple" part without even showing what's beneath it, so nearly all people just look at the map, which is just the tip of the iceberg, without even knowing there is something under it. They should do a better effort to present the vast information that the atDNA provides.
@@JavierAlbinarrate My Ancestry DNA told me I'm 50% Irish and 50% Northern English. What does that mean? I'm no wiser than my Family Tree already told me.
Agreed. Much of what we consider national identity is based on culture, rather than genetics. Language, religion, and political norms are, or were at least until very recently, better indicators of nationality. However, genetics can inform the conversation as to the unwritten history of a population.
Ethnic groups often shape the political landscape, take a look at the Balkans for example the borders are largely dictated by the ethnic groups living in them (also one of the reasons it's generally seen as quite an unstable region)
Let us not forget the Spanish Armada or the Viking Invasions and the English influence who in turn are a mixture of Roman, French, German, Irish etc etc etc.
I kind of think some of it makes sense. During times of antiquity many Greeks lived in Rome because of its importance. Those Greeks were eventually called “Romani” Romans, although still being genetically Greek. It think if random Italians in Italy took the test, a good percentage would have Greek heritage. For the Jewish apart that could be even Jewish Christians who were part of the diaspora. This is weird because I know two sisters who did the dna test, and their results came back identical.
@@jerkchickenblog Heck, be glad it was only dowsing, they found me, and well, they said they were trying to Baptize me, the only problem was, they wouldn't let me up.
@@hn45645 Thank you. We talk daily, but we have not met in person yet because we're in different countries. It's only been a few months since we found each other.
Last fall I did 23andme, which linked me to my sister's long lost baby girl she gave up for adoption in 1969. I was delighted to call up my big sis and let her know, giving her the New-year's ever.
@@marcellemccalla6325 yes, but that assumes that they have done the test as well, it can only compare to the data it has in it's database. But yes it can accuratly find relatives.
@@marcellemccalla6325 I, my daughter and my brother, all have different names. My daughter and I have married named. We three live in separate parts of the U.S. It connected our relationships to each other .... of myself to my child and my sibling! They connected all three of us to each other, correctly. 👍🏼😉
Linking relatives is more accurate as it doesn't involve the calculation of ethnicity as they can just check if any dna in the database are similar to yours. the issue is not in how they analyze the dna but how they try to match it to a specific area of origin.
@@reidyo5404 It's not about cloning it's about researching your DNA so corporations who buy you data can deny you health care, a job and other services based on predictions and probabilities of you developing certain diseases, conditions and hereditary illnesses! And selling your DNA to government agencies for identification purposes.
I did ancestry for myself, my mom and husband, it was very accurate, I am from Siberia, and I got 89% eastern european/russian and the rest Asian from my region in Siberia. My husband is Jewish and he got Ashkenazi jewish, so did his cousin , there were no mistakes in our test-I was shocked at how accurate they were.
My mother was adopted in the 50s. Recently connected with relatives through ancestry DNA, after decades of searching with no luck... You didn't mention the relative matching, which is more legit than putting a number on your ethnicity. I don't feel this report is entirely fair of the overall product.
This is why I did mine. I'm adopted - and my biological grandfather grew up in an orphanage. So, I am trying to connect to family. I take the heritage less seriously.
Please watch the video again. They did mention that their recreational testing piggybacks legitimate DNA testing. Their recreational testing is 99% of their business and they would lose money if they solely relied on legitimate testing.
@@bitmln003_ You don't have a clue what you're talking about, eh? The dna test did what 40 years of old fashioned research could not - produce legitimate results. Your ignorant comment isn't helpful considering there's clearly other people out there that might be looking to use it for the same purpose. They don't need to be discouraged by some jerk that doesn't have a clue.
@@AliciaTaylorbe patient and you will have luck! It took my mom about 8 months until she had a close relative hit a match. She got in touch, a few month later a couple more matches, and now we've tracked down the family on both her mother and father's side! Best of luck!!
My mother always assumed she is 100% Dutch. That's the culture in which she grew up. We decided to do DNA (National Graphic Geographic) tests a few years ago. She knew she had a😂 8th great grandfather who was from Spain, but she was shocked to find out the majority of her DNA is from European Mediterranean countries, from Portugal to the Slavic countries with a bit of France & Germany. That revelation explained a lot about the the skin tone of random family members, especially me, my maternal grandmother, and son. Amongst Blonde haired blue eyed family members stands me, my son, and our dark features!
@@davidhollenshead4892 Oh no, she'd better not do that, as otherwise the President might have to shell out another $130,000 in hush money to Saft Suse's mother... 😂
@@quantumbubbles2106 I better not do that because then Trump would have to pay my mother? How much do you assume I hate my mother? :P Also, don't assume my gender! *triggered* I'm not a girl, I'm a bipolar pear!
it's kind of your own fault if you buy one of these tests without understanding how they work. i bought a test on a christmas sale, but i knew that it was an estimate based on population averages, not a definitive look into your genetic ancestry. my results were exactly as i expected, and it matched me with an aunt and cousins that i haven't seen or spoken to since i was a kid.
Exactly. The misguided impression that people have given themselves with no trickery from anyone else is that race is inherent in DNA, and can be quantified, and that that's what these places are doing. It's not how DNA works, nor is it what anyone is suggesting that these models are telling us. This video is doing a real disservice to public general knowledge.
Yeah, I want to try one just for fun. I know for sure my grandparents came from Ireland, my great grandma was supposed to be on the titanic. My dad’s cousin that he knew in Ireland died young. I want to see if there’s any other family still there. 😀 If there’s no other family in the system then it’s still just for fun.
Hate to be that "ackshually" guy but it _is_ a pretty definitive look into your ancestry, it's that continental European ethnicities aren't easy to distinguish from each other as they're so similar. It will definitely tell you how NW European versus Southern European you are though for example. Some companies also have better samples than others.
@@zinniaward8549 Yes, this is how they are solving old cold cases. They use the unknown victim’s or suspect’s DNA profile and then use the DNA matches in these databases to create a DNA family tree until they can zero in on the possible identity, at which point, the police take over to get more evidence to support the identification.
@@discorsion It is probably because many soldiers will leave their calling cards behind (if you know what I mean) and it would identify the fathers of their children
Just saw this. Fascinating for sure. My sister did the text and it was accurate as to what we’ve been told but have always been tempted to do my own. Guess I don’t want my DNA floating around out there. Thank you.
The ethnic breakdown estimates are a little dubious for sure, particularly when you get into smaller percentages. But since my family can trace their lineage back at least 400 years (on some branches) without the use of a dna test, the dna test results actually corroborated my family’s written genealogical records. No, they aren’t perfect, but they are accurate enough to a certain point. They will give you a close approximate, and in ancestry’s DNA’s case, show you who your relatives are if they have taken the test.
This is so true. I have a lot of info about my family, on both sides, and know our ancestry quite well. Mine and my brother's DNA tests mostly just backed up what we already knew. So it seems to me they can definitely be informative.
And over time genetics are not carried down as people no longer inherit them. Not everything is inherited as you go. That's why they say to do ancestry research and family trees to confirm all relationships or ones that are missing.
Why is everyone so confused, it’s basic statistics! Your data and results are only as good as the quality of the inputs! This only told me that science and math aren’t actually being taught and understood in our education systems.
Yes this show seems to think they are exposing some scam when all they are doing is exposing how ignorant they are. This report is just as misleading as the advertising. They have completely neglected to mention the extremely accurate and powerful data unlocked by these DNA tests that can reunite lost family and confirm exactly where your ancestors came from by connecting you to their other descendants.
They could easily have summarised the criticisms from the experts better, eg by saying that because 1. the database of people being compared is limited, and 2. genes migrate, and 3. no genes are restricted to certain regions, and 4. they only compare some of your genes, therefore it's an estimate.
Wrong, it's not basic statistics. When you give the same input in the system you should have the same answer, with the same margins of error, as at 15:11. Confirmed by a biostatistician a few seconds later. Go back to school.
lelorenzo no need to come on here being rude. The database is changing, the number of people your DNA is being compared to is ever increasing and therefore ever changing your results. So your results depend on everyone else in the database and the specific algorithm the companies’ use to match your DNA. It’s not an argument it’s just what is going on. And at the end of the day, the companies say in the fine print what the accuracy is. They are businesses at the end of the day...sell kits , make money, and sell the dna info to other companies. 🤷🏻♀️
While I do believe that these results are not super accurate, they still shed some light about your ancestry. While your percentages varied between companies, the regions were more or less the same. If they mention an area with a decent percentage, you probably have some ancestry in that area, just don't trust the percentage to be exact.
This! I find it funny that this report has this air of: "We just uncovered a scam", when all it is could be summarized as science in action. The more Datasets they have the more "correct" those predictions will turn out, and the fact, that most of those assumptions do somewhat overlap is stunning already. Everybody with a brain should know that via human migration clear cut national results are more or less a fun party trick but not really telling you much aside from the general regions you *might* have come from.
There is more than one variation of “Why this test is important” and that would be the family connection. We find DNA matches that are distant and some even more closely matched relatives.
Not to mention if they had been male twins their results would have been much more accurate. Women don't receive a full panel. You are much better off having your dad or brother/ uncle take the test. The whole XX XY deal. Women's profiles come back missing portions of their fathers ancestry report. Since a female is XX she will be missing info from her fathers Y gene.
23andme has continously updated my results. The more people that do it, the more accurate it gets. I found an uncle's daughter he didn't even know he had, in her 40s.
DNA connected a woman to a cousin of mine. He had been in Korea and was sent to Germany for treatment of wounds. While recuperating he must have caught the eye of a lovely maiden because after he went home she learned she was with child. Either didn't know how to find him or thought it best to let it go. Then in 2021 the child sent in DNA and the four of us who sent ours in suddenly find a family member no one knew of. My cousin, the unsuspecting father, had passed away several years ago so he didn't have to own up to his wife. His wife was accepting of it since there was no way he could have known and he was a really good husband and father to his known family. And he wasn't married until after he came back from Korea. There HAVE been some surprises that shook families up when it is learned one of the kids is not from the same father. One girl on YT found out she was not from either parent at about age 16. They never told her she was adopted because they wanted her to feel she truly was their child.
Thanks for noting this. Most of the companies update results constantly as better testing pools and more science comes along. I have tested with 4 of the mentioned tests in the video and found a lot of family members (I'm adopted). It's interesting to see how they have refined relation statuses even as they get more related test results. It has become much more accurate each year.
Breaking down DNA is extremely difficult with a $49.99 test. However these test can do some amazing things like leading to capture of the original Night Staker. Plus on a personal level, it made a huge difference in my life. My mother passed away when I was in high school and later I found out my brother and sister had a different father than I did! The secret of my fathers identity died with her. After 50 years a DNA test lead to the location of my biological father.
Richard Ramirez (the Night Stalker) had already been arrested and convicted before DNA evidence was really a thing. Twenty years later, DNA testing led to the discovery that he was responsible for a previously unsolved murder.
@Greg Last What? They question the government and reach out to government officials many times on Marketplace. Your argument has already been shot down.
The 23 and Me confidence selector is for the downloadable data. Go to their FAQ and look up "What do the different confidence thresholds mean? section for clarification. The prof from Montreal answered "yes" to your confidence question, but one can easily see that he is unsure and is agreeing because he doesn't want to seem like he does not know what he is talking about. For 23 and Me, the heritage they are most confident about has an 80% confidence level; this they refer to as "highly likely". When one sees "possible" beside an ancestry prediction, they mean 50-60% confidence in their prediction. If they are less than 50% confident, they tell you "not detected". When you want to download the raw data you can filter by confidence level. Choose 50% if you want uncertain results included. Use a higher confidence level if you only want the data for which your correlations are highly likely. 23 and Me are very transparent about how they sample and interpret data. All of this was known to me by reading their on line literature BEFORE I bought their service.
I always think about that when I see white supremacists protesting and shouting racists slogans. Some of them don't look too European either (at least not Nordic). They don't have to have African DNA but what about Jewish? or other not so white ancestry.
I knew my results were an estimate. I did research before I purchased the kit. I think the best thing about these kits is that they can help you find relatives.
I'd be curious to see what the results would have been if you (even without your twin) had sent 5 samples, collected and sent at the same time, to the SAMES company, but under different names if possible. Would they all come back with more or less the same results? Somehow I doubt it.
Just don’t tell me the neanderthal profiling is wrong cause I’ve already bought the cave and taken up grunting
Your comment is my favorite!!
Oonga boonga?
@Shayne Punim Grooming a mate to swing from a tree - thats the difference.
Neanderthals didn't grunt more than our Homo sapiens ancestries.
Got the joke; chuckled. 🙂 Still, for anyone interested...in the tone of an old Geico theme ("...even a caveman..."), we're not so sure they were that dumb. New research suggests Neanderthals died out due to interbreeding pressure, not for lack of intelligence. If they'd survived they might have done better than we've done.
I think why most people are surprised is because they don't take into account the patterns of human migration throughout human history. So many people have moved, been conquered, have conquered, and as a result there's a lot of mixing in the overall population.
Exactly. My brother, for example, claims a Scottish heritage and is confused as to why his Genetic results show Scandinavian, English, and Irish, not Scottish. I've tried explaining it to him...
This is a very good point.
@Holly 12345 I was always led to understand the Irish and Scots, both being Celtic, were ethnically the same. I'm not sure how or why DNA would differ between the two groups.
You wrote it so much more eloquently than I did. It's a big mix. That's why I wish we could all just get along. ;-)
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My mum found her long lost sister through a DNA test, who found other relatives. It may not be accurate, but it's useful to pull broken families back together
I just found my mothers biological father after YEARS of searching! I love hearing stories like your (and mine..)
Not the same test and different approaches. Believe me I am geneticist. Much easier and accurate to compare two people than comparing a person to many populations.
@Clementina Yael Severina M. like Frank Lloyd Wright? Lol
@Xrey All ANYONE'S talking about are DNA tests!
They found jack the ripper in a similar way
Short version for those who feel impatient:
DNA tests do not test against ancestors but rather against the contemporary populations whose DNA has been collected and analysed by the companies. Therefore this is rather statistical analysis of the DNA and isn't certain, but rather uses confidence intervals to make it seem more certain than it is. Maternal haplogroup helps to add some certainty in some cases, but it's limited.
Second point: The twins have DNA that the kits assert are either mostly Eastern European, Balkan/Greek, or Italian (they have some Spanish in some of them, too). This is extremely reasonable to have this distribution, as admixture among these populations was actually very common, especially via maritime trade and movement on the Mediterranean.
that's what confused me. at one point i did one through a mostly uk company and so they had very few germans in the database i guess, so on that one my entire german side was left out and referred to as Southern England. I'm still a little confused but that's when I figured out it's about matching your profile against those already living in a certain area. if those in that certain area don't have any of a certain part of your dna it just goes as undefined or they put it under something else as a best guess? i have english/irish/scottish/welsh and also german
another issue that's not addressed is that nationality is NOT encoded into your DNA. just because your family's been living in Sicily since your great, great, great, great grandpa, it doesn't necessarily mean your DNA is similar to a typical "Italian". Sicily, for example, has had Greeks, North Africans, Germans, Phoenicians and Romans inhabiting some parts of it since ancient history. Migration and history should be in the appendix to these results, as they can and do affect it.
You put it clearer than I did. They didn’t research the background before they condemned the tests with this shock horror video.
@@bvbxiong5791 exactly 💯
they are etruscans, that's the explanation
My Kids cried when they found out that they were NOT adopted...
lol...I can relate. I sooooo wanted to be adopted. Now, I have to accept how much of my parents that I truly am, from both nurture AND nature...all the way from misplacing keys to storing tissues under my left bra strap. 🤷🏽♀️
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This was an initiation into true bonding. you are truly blessed.
Hahahahaha
I don't get why.....
My Mom has always told me I'm from another planet, so I've never bothered to get tested.
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Yep, that’s gotta be a very small database in a great big universe.
Who knows u might get shipped to area 51.
Love it! I hear you. I've been told that several times. You and I might be related.
If you can fly, shoot laser from your eyes and wear the underwear outside, yeah you probably is.
They seem really clueless about Sicilian history. It has been a melting pot for people from all of the Mediterranean (i.e. including Iberia and the Middle East) for thousands of years.
Right, do they even study history in school watching this video is so frustrating... Europe is mixed gosh ..especially Italy which was conquered by tons of populations.
many people dont think about this. its the sad truth, 99% of americans are clueless of sicilian history. it almost souds like a joke because 95% of us dont know any AMERICAN history.
Mine came back 93% Italian and 7% Greek and Balkan.
Normans were in Sicily too.
I disagree...with the middle east aspect...North Africa yes...middle east not so much....they are pretty far apart.
I was adopted at Birth. At the age of 68 I was given a DNA kit as a gift. At the age of 70 I decided to use it. Didn't figure I would find out much of anything. Boy was I wrong. Not only was my ethnicity different than what I had been told but I found five full siblings, a half-brother and 35 or 40 first cousins.
Did you watch the video??
@@stepaushi The video has nothing to do with DNA analysis about kinship relationships (save that the identical twins have identical DNA). Unlike the ethnic nonsense, working out whether two people are siblings, first cousins, parents etc. is very well based in hard science.
The genetic "ethnicity" side is much, much more vague and wide open to different analysis. However, by finding out previously unknown full siblings, then there could well be a lot of information from genealogy.
Incidentally, the idea that ethnicity is inherited via genes is nonsense. Ethnicity is primarily about culture, and you don't get that by genetic inheritance as one of the scientists point out.
I was also adopted at birth. I reconnected with my birth family before these commercial DNA test kits existed. There was enough similarity in our family resemblances, and in the paper trail, to corroborate I was their relative. No one felt the need for paternity testing. Ten or so years after reunification, I submitted a sample to 23&Me and it verified my birth parents were, in fact, my birth parents. That was nice but not the reason I submitted the sample; I am fascinated by physical anthropology. To @tomearnest198's point, over the years in my family, we have "met" a couple of cousins no one knew existed. Like him, I discovered I had two full brothers. I was able to search after I decided my need to KNOW who I came from was greater than my fear of a negative outcome. My experience remains a very positive one. I hope your reunion is positive, too, @tomearnest198. For many adoptees, DNA tests like this are the only way we have found our birth families and vice versa.
@@TheEulerID So are you saying that the kinship analysis is accurate? I was adopted and took the test a few years ago at the age of 60. I found I had 3 full sisters. Can that information be trusted?
@@susantrott3338Yes, that part can be trusted.
Your DNA doesn't change, the way that they analyze the information does.
@Captain America It's called epigenetics, and yes they do change over time through environmental exposure.
@@litusbatus What about through environmental alterations like radioactivity?
@Social Justice Warrior dna never ever changes the only thing that changes is epigenetic markers
@Social Justice Warrior no it absolutely does not I just took an epigenomics course and besides that I have 6yrs of medical school behind me and a 4.0gpa as well. You are full of crap buddy epigenomic markers does not=a change in DNA and mutations do not=a "change" in dna either. Neither does recombination nor the snipping out of DNA none of these natural processes=a change In dna
For one, no one has "1 genome" anyways; every generation of daughter cells have DNA sequence changes. Thus, you really have as many genomes as you have cells. It's even more important to remember that
I'm romanian, from eastern Europe. That country was occupied by the romans, the turks, the mongols. It also seen immigration from Germany, Russia. There are Roma people originally from India. I don't care where my DNA comes from because it comes from all over the place because people move around.
Exactly.....
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BINGO! You win the DNA "Where Do I Come From?" Contest! All the millions of you who played along and paid for DNA results, sorry!
You don't have to care (you probably do in some situation though) but it's a little broad to say "people move around". Yeah... true... but it hasn't been some equal rainbow pie of everyone moving around everywhere.
In Scotland, well you had Scottish folk going back 40,000 years, and you do have people moving around, like Irish, English, Nordic countries, okay. But that's not 500 different groups all mixing in Scotland over thousands of years. So yes people move around, but it's not everyone moving everywhere, and there is such a thing as a people, an ethnicity, a clustering of DNA to a particular home region, etc
That's very true. I'm actually waiting for my DNA results, hopefully soon. Both sides of my family come from the same town in Sicily. It will be interesting since history weighs heavily on Sicily.
I had to laugh when these twins were shocked over how much Greek they had as opposed to “Sicilian.“ Any student of history knows… Sicily was the melting pot of the entire Mediterranean.
In fact, Sicily was a part of Greece proper for a long time before the Romans took it. And then later on the Arabs possessed it for quite some time.
Know your history folks. And yeah… Take these tests with a grain of salt.
Funky Fungi, exactly. My GF’s Family is Sicilian but GEGE. Albanian immigrants from the 15th century trying to escape Ottoman rule in the Balkans.
Yeah. They do need to learn that most places in the worll is really not that homogenus.
This is my entire thought process while watching this. Anyone with a cursory understanding of history would know WHY these results have different classifications for the haplogroups. If the actual HAPLOGROUP results were wrong, then that would be more cause for alarm. This entire segment made a mountain out of a molehill. Statistical variations and a growing data pool account for all of the discrepancies shown here. I'm really underwhelmed.
@serendipidus1 Slavic and Central Asian DNA is more common in the Balkans than in Greece.
How about how the tests conveniently omits any African ( sun saharan) DNA matches.... i guess they feel Hannibals presence has been effectively breeded out!! ..lol!!
If you would like to find your lost relatives, just announce on the network that you hit the Lotto 🧐😉😂😂😂
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that’s a good one😆
My Dad always said that, as a kid, I had more in common with the dog than my siblings. Excitingly awaiting for the DNA test to confirm.
And... if you’re sitting by the door drooling, waiting on the doorknob to jiggle, I’m guessing you’re dad was right.
Well, that's really grosd if you consider the implications.
Lmao
Ha ha
Are you crazy?
So what you're saying, it's a cool way to build a global DNA database while profiting at the same time?
@Sig Kimber Like the name you've chosen. 😊
Look up the owner of 23 and me. Ann Wojcicki and who she was previously married to.
@thesix107 Yeah. OWOrder crowd like the idea of getting everyone used to the idea that we're all the same. Maybe, even to the extent of giving false genetic info to the world, while keeping your true full DNA for themselves (and some of the companies even have the rights to sell or use you're DNA for whatever else they want). Testing is a scary thing to be doing "just for fun"!
How many of these companies share their data with government agencies if any of them do thats a bit sinister
Wow, just a guess - timate ? The way they advertise, you think they's be right spot on, being with a genealogy facebook page though you find out different.... getting my dad's results soon...
Meanwhile my long lost aunt who was forcefully taken from my grandmother found us after her Ancestry Dna results connected her to a cousin...
So thankful for this new accessible way to connect to our relatives
It seems to me that this type of situation is the best use of these dna tests. It could also be useful to get a general idea of what your heritage is but then I beleive you would need to do more research to know precisely where they lived and even then documentation of such things is very limited.
Whao, that sound serious. Which test did you do? :-)
matching individual people is only possible with a true, full dna test to match with other true, full tests. these companies are looking at tiny portions of dna, and giving you the odds of where your people used to live based on the people who live in that place right now. ou did not find your aunt throuh the typical ancestory dna testing.
@@nonyabizness.original It is a starting point for many. I now have a lovely 2rd cousin who had been adopted as an infant. She found her way to our family after many years of searching, including several false starts. The initial lead was being identified as related to another of my 2nd cousins via one of these tests.
I believe Ancestry is the most accurate.
An adoptif girl find biological real parents and in the same time that she was adopted thanks to that test
A man meet his biological father too
Sicily was long populated by Greeks and Carthaginians (which were really Phoenicians), so it makes perfect sense that here genes are largely Greek and Middle-Eastern.
Greek is not surprising. Sicily was colonized by the Greeks before the Roman empire. The fact they are getting Mediterranean countries is pretty good. With so many migrations over the centuries, and nationalities being historically more recent, it's very possible that "Italian" is not what they get.
Exactly. It's just sad how history and migration isn't even taken in account when they are trying to understand the results. Italian is pasta, no more.
Exactly right, count in two world wars in Europe and everyone is migrating everywhere.
Not to mention South Tyrol. That region of north Italy is inhabited by Germans!
@@zd2243 Not to mention South Tyrol. That region of north Italy is inhabited by Germans!
The disturbing point is that identical twins got different results...
Lol. People are changing their entire lives based on who they "think" they are.
Just be yourself, not who your ancestors, or what companies say you were.
Exactly. Nobody ever gets to choose their parents. It's what you do now that matters.
I think that behind this nonsense of the DNA heritage..there are the sionist. Cause like this they validate the lie..that they are a race.
yep it seems to be identity crisis overload, some people take this stuff way too seriously.
People are so dumb in 2020.
While you're right, it's also true that identity is always behind whom we see ourselves as being when we are "being ourselves". That is because who we are is a function of what we believe about ourselves. We can place our identity anywhere...personality, skills, character, interests, race, nationality, etc. If our sense of self is built upon inner qualities or our skills, then we won't crumble over our genealogy. But if we build our house upon genealogy and the culture of that race, then that house will fall if it comes out that the foundation was sand. Ultimately, we don't know much about ourselves. We can't really trace our genealogies, despite ancestry websites, because we cannot assume every father listed is the true father. So this is not a place to build one's identity house.
My sister found our long lost aunt who was given up for adoption.... I think it's worth it ❤
Congratulations! As a family genealogist I have found remarkable results with AncestryDNA matching my tree. It has helped confirm that my research is correct!
Hahah
@ReturnoftheBrotha No, its not. I found a 1st cousin with 23 and me
My daughter found my my son who was adopted without using a dna kit. She used Facebook!
I'm adopted and found 2nd cousins via Ancestry. Met a lot of nice people and they're connected via Facebook now.
My mom was adopted at birth (1955). I found all 9 of her siblings through AncestryDNA. They didn't even know that she existed until I found them.
We (my brother and I) did DNA tests 10 years ago and have watch the results change. We did initially do it to give our children a sense of who we are ethnically. (We're adopted) Ultimately, we've watched that result morph and change slightly over time. Our biggest result: We found first cousins whom we were able to find out who our father was. Unfortunately he died several years prior. We also found a half-sister! What a treasure!
That is awesome. I am really glad for you. Sorry about your father though. My Dad was never legally adopted but, he was raised by his Mom's mother & step-father. His mother died when he was 19 (3 years before I was born) & 3 months before my Mom met him. And to confuse things even more, his mother's 1st husband left her after having 2 girls together. The oldest 1 was only 1 year old when her Dad left & never came back. Dad's father, he too, was married & left his wife after having 3 kids but, was pregnant for a 4th one that he (I assume) never knew about. He had 1 boy & 2 girls & then when Dad was 49, I found out that he had another brother. A son that his Dad never told us about. Therefore, I am positive that Grandpa died not even knowing about this kid. Which is very sad. That Uncle is now 82 & the other one we knew about died last year at 89 years old; & he was the one that knew about my Dad from day 1. And even though Dad goes by his Mom's previous married name, his late brother knew he was his brother & even told everybody Dad was his brother too. Dad looks like my Grandpa the most besides that. It really freaked out both of his brothers & all the rest of our extended family too. They always said, there's no doubt in our minds who his father is eh. Sometimes the genes are so strong between 2 half-siblings that you would have never guessed that they were only half-siblings & not full siblings. My Dad is the youngest of 8 altogether which includes each of his parents' 1st families as well as him & an older full sister that died at birth due to a doctor's mistake. Yet, he has strong resemblances to all of these half-siblings that hit adult age. That's DNA for ya. :)
The more people tests the better the results are for everyone-it’s why it’s shows small changes or % changes -it becomes more accurate the more people are tested
It's exciting isn't it! I hope you keep in touch with your cousins and half-sister.
Lol, my sister got one of these for my parents and it caused mad drama. First my mom's results came back telling her she was 0% Italian when her grandparents immigrated from there and there is still a whole village of people in N Italy with her maiden name. It said she was French. Since talking to the extended family, I think the test is just confused by the Northern Italians. Then my dad found out that his mom lied to him his whole life about who his real dad was... So, they should really have a disclaimer that says something like, "We are not responsible for the secrets of your slutty grandparents!"
Same! Big “ who’s (not) your daddy?” surprises in my family, too.
Lol
💀 YESSSSS 😂 but they'll never admit the 💩
I mean French and Italian people are both European you won’t see the difference and they’re soo near to each other it could be that her grandparents were from French but then they travelled to Italy
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People should be aware, the reason why many southern Italians get almost 0% Italian on these tests and get Balkan/Greek instead is because southern Italy was heavily colonized by Greeks, and so there is an incredibly close genetic link. It all depends on what populations these companies have data from to compare with - if their data includes southern Italians/sicilians, you'll get that on your results. If their data includes more northern Italians, then you might see a lot more greek on your results.
I was waiting for them to talk about this. In history, there has been a lot more moving of people across borders (or borders across people) than we envision. If your ancestors have lived in what we now call Italy for a few hundred years, you can feel 100% culturally Italian and still look muddled genetically.
not to mention the Roman/Byzantine Empire that came after that.
The Spanish invaded Sicily and Italy as well. Which is why that is very likely to show up as well.
Just goes to show that everyone is a mix of something. Even if the tests are not 100% accurate, it does prove that no one is singularly from one place.
exactly, I really couldn't believe no one in this video talked about that or just about people migrating in general.
But regardless, they were twins, right? Should be the same.
I took the Ancestry test. If it was accurate, based on my oral family history, it would be very specific - both sides of my family came from Friesland, in The Netherlands. It was one small spot in Europe, nothing else would fit what I was told. And Ancestry nailed it. It zeroed in on Friesland like a laser beam. In my case I can vouch for Ancestry. Did not try the others.
The people from Friesland are the original inhabitants of Netherlands who are living there for thousands of years. The rest of Netherlands is a mix of other near direct European country’s and they will get the same soup as in the video. Chaos of predictions and inaccurate dna results.
AH, and so am I a good part Frisian -- but my Frisian family comes from BOTH East Friesland and North Friesland (I know the cities of origin from records research) -- and both of my Frisian areas are often mixed in geo-reference test populations to simply NW European or Danish, respectively, or worse: 'Germanic'. It's the problem of the test reference-groups NOT having enough geo-specificity, and one needs to be aware of this in this work. DNA-level data shared is what counts. One can largely figure out nationality (ethnicity) by the paper research that must be undertaken once one has limited the scope of records-research.
The important message is given at the very end: pure ethnic groups do not exist and it is a dangerous idea.
And at 20:48 - if humans *already* share over 99% of DNA, a 99% match between twins should be in the remaining under 1%, i.e, about 4 decimal places out. When people throw out pennies as irrelevant, this is like splitting pennies into 100 more pennies then trying to make the smaller ones important again.
@@definesigint2823 what's more important is, what are their Insta''s?
@Shayne Punim For these testing they are not sequenced, but markers are used. The same method is used to identify humans (or other species) in crime investigation. Some markers are mostly found in Euroasia, Afrika or Australia. They are not more specific than that.
Sequencing the whole genome is way more expensive ;)
Not necessarily. My results were 87% British, and the rest was Sweden, Ireland, and germanic Europe. If you look through history, all of these migrations date back to the Indo-European people's. So technically, it is a pure ethnic result.
Please define "ethnic".
Don't know why these Sicilian sisters are suprised they have Balkan/Greek genes when Greece colonized a lot of Sicily.
Exactly. Know history is important.
But the huge differences between them, between companies and between tests at the same company, not movement of ancient people are at issue.
@@yaelB9467 yes archaic historical cultures are nothing like the Modern world which these women are using as a yardstick for their results .
We are Greek/Balkan and discovered actually 30% Italian. Definitely not hard to believe.
They are confusing cultural with genetics is all...
At 56, through Ancestry, I found siblings I never knew I had, a father I've never known, and his parents. I am his only child that looks just like my father and his mother. In my opinion DNA results may not be on the money about where you are from, but it can definitely identify who you came from.
UPDATE:. We talk all the time. They tell me all about my dad, and the history of the family, sending me photos, the resemblance is uncanny. Im the youngest of 7, which includes me and 2 other outside children. Only one sibling with his wife is living (the person I matched on Ancestry, 63) and the other 2 outside children. the oldest being 73.
My father was the same age as my grandfather, my mother was 20. I did find out that he had just been divorced when he was with my mother and he died a year after my birth.
Family dna test works different so they are accurate. These tests they are talking about just some guess and a bit statistics.
@@tamilyatamilya all the companies they're talking about matches you to/with people you're related to, in addition to estimates of your heritage.
Sorry, but the ancestry test is not solid proof of family members. Ancwstry themselves says you must check against the most likely matches then do extra research to follow the family tree or take a proper DNA test like Sibling, Paternal, or Maternal testing in a professional lab.
@@maryst77 no they looking some random strings and compare them with other continental's random strings. As much as that the part of dna's similar, they gave you the percentage. But as video says even the collected data dna from countries is vary and changes. Because they grab different parts of DNA sometimes and participation changes. There is no a certain string that tells you, your ancestors coming from a certain country. But parental or sibling test are 99.9 accurate.
@@tamilyatamilya Yes, I'm aware of all that. These tests, FamilyTreeDNA, ancestry, 23andme do match you up with people related to you, though, in addition to the stuff about your heritage, which is very useful for genealogy. I'm not arguing the accuracy of the heritage stuff. I was just responding to your comment that these tests don't work for people related to you (if that's what you were saying - I may have misunderstood your comment). I've done some of the above tests, as well as my family members and it's been very accurate for showing how we're related - although I don't doubt that there are issues for some people.
My sister and I in an effort to find out who our grandfather was took dna tests. I took 23 and me and my sister took ancestry . As a result we discovered that my mother who thought she was an only child actually had a sister, and we tracked down my grandfather and that part of our family. In 2019 we went to the family reunion which our new relatives held every year and there was no doubt about our relationship.
As for our ethnicity, we are all mostly Irish/ Scottish which was not in doubt. We found the dna tests helped us solve the problem of our missing grandfather.
I’m 2% squid, that explaines my love for long showers and shrimp
doublebassbass lmao I can’t with this comment 🤣🤣🤣
doublebassbass :-No certainly not!.You are 98%genius and 2% jackass!.Check your genes!
Zoidberg hhhh
@@MsG4L4DRIEL you're genius I laughed so much i'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I did 23 & me. I am 68 years old. I found my mother who is 88 years old. 3 sisters and 2 brothers. I new my real mothers name so we are 100% sure. I new I had a lot of German and everything was right. It was a miracle at my age!!!
Congratulations that’s wonderful
That’s fantastic! I’m so happy you were able to find your family and possibly lay to rest any questions you had. That’s just neat!
Make up for the lost time
@@8cupsCoffee congratulations. That's wonderful
How many tests did you do? I’m trying to help my sister find out who her biological father is or what her nationality is. Did you know your moms or sisters real names or anything about them? And congratulations 🍾 😀👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"I thought I married an Italian. Turns out he is only 16% Italian..... "
Okay,....what is this leading to? A divorce? Let the dead rest. Greetings from Germany.
Good vid, good message.
Yep, never take that wife to anything Italian.
If you were born in America you are American. People seem to take it that if they've had an ancester from Italy that they themselves must be part Italian. This concept baffles my mind. I'm from South Africa so I identify myself as either South African or African not English because of where my father came from or Irish because of where his father came from or even Romanian because of where his grandfather came from. There are too many variations in where our ancesters were born. People have to re-evelatuate their concept of where they're from and where they were born to get a more accurate sense of their ancestrial heritage otherwise it promotes incorrect information on their ancestrial history.
@@amyelizabethjacobs3183 Same. It's your cultural heritage that matters
Amy Elizabeth Jacobs there’s a difference between nationality and ethnic background/ethnicity. Obviously everyone born in America is American, but my ethnicity is Irish-Italian. That doesn’t mean I’m saying I’m not American. ..?? How does that not make sense to some people?
Tbh I've met so many "Italian"-Americans who are only a quarter Italian yet they insist on calling themselves Italian and completely disregarding their other heritage, as if they have anything to do with Italy anyways, culturally speaking. A hilarious example is the American actress Ileana Douglas, her dad was mostly English/anglo-saxon, her mom was half Romanian/half Italian with a Romanian last name, yet she tells everybody her mother was Italian. I've even seen interviews with her where she's asked where her name comes from (Ileana is a Romanian name) and she says her mom named her after "some Romanian princess" lmfao, those are the exact words she uses, but she NEVER says that she's part Romanian too despite the fact that her mother's last name is something with an -escu which is obviously Romanian and not Italian. She straight up tells people that her mother is Italian and that she "identifies more with her mother's working class Italian immigrant side of the family" as opposed to her dad's "old school American side" and she says nothing about her mother being Romanian as well. Imagine having a Romanian name and a mom with a Romanian last name and saying your mom's side of the family is only Italian. Also if her family has been in America for three generations, she's "old school American" too. People like this are a parody of themselves. It's some weird warped cultural chauvinism to ignore 75% of your ancestry. Some lady who lives in my building is mostly Scottish but she tells everybody she's French bc she's like 1/8th French and she has a French last name. She couldn't speak French to save her life. Either accept your American-ness or Canadian-ness and say that's what you are, or if you're going to talk about your ancestry, acknowledge all of it, don't cherry pick 20% of it and totally ignore the rest because you think being Italian or French makes you sound "more interesting" or some such garbage. You have nothing to do with that culture anyways.
My friend discovered her mother had an affair and who she thought was dad, wasn’t. Her mother tearfully fessed up.
I recently finished Bill Griffeth's The Stranger in My Genes which has that plot. And then my brother took a DNA test, hence my current curiosity. The results of my brother's tests were exactly what I expected. FWIW.
Found a half sister this way we didn't even know existed. She'd been searching her entire adult life. My sister and I visited her and I knew immediately from her hair at a distance it was her. All 3 of us at that time a few years ago had the same style, texture, and color. All like our dad's. It was amazing. I think putting these ethnicity estimates together with a family tree can help fill in the gaps.
Hello Sara what make of test did you use
Yes what test?
I had tried "My Heritage." It did this.
Ethnicity estimates are useless for genealogy. You want actual DNA to find relatives.
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Your family come from Sicily=I'm italian... Ehhh NO!
Sicily was Phoenician (Lebanon), Carthage ( north Africa) Greek, Roman, Vandal and Ostrogoth (German), Byzantine (balcanic) Islamic, Norman(French), and Spanish... So, if you are Sicilian you could have genes from all those countries.
Byzantine was mostly Anatolian, not Balkanian.
@@denisborzov8406 Byzantines were the Eastern Romans who where Greek speaking Romans.
@@Georgito555 Who do you think the subjects/largest part of the population were? I'm certain that the area that the Empire covered wasn't empty of people and loads of Romans moved there. It's like claiming that most of S.Americans are Spanish/Portugese or Indians are British
I like your analysis but Islamic is irrelevant and has no scientific reason behind it.
In practice, for these DNA tests, Sicilian means Greek, some companies put them separate labels, but some others simply fuse them. The point is that most of the history of the rulers, most of the time had no big impact in the bulk of the population that leads to today's labels being applied to certain autosomal combinations regardless of who conquered what when.
Thanks to Ancestry I found my long lost father who was taken prisoner during the Vietnam war. And I found my long lost brother and sister who are living in Siberia! Joy!
How?
@@Kopie0830 huh
That's not from a DNA test though, it's from you inputting information.
Did he leave you a gold watch?
can you prove it tho without the dna test? or u bought it and just went with it?
I really appreciate this story. Good on you and your sister for doing this, thank you!
I confirmed the identity of a relative that was placed into a closed adoption over 40 years ago. I'd been looking since she turned 18. We are both so happy to know each other and looking forward to meeting in person soon. Sadly, her mother wants nothing to do with her but now she knows who she is, and I know that she had a good life and very good parents. That peace of mind is priceless to us both.
Yes, I was wondering about scenarios like this. In terms of ethnic analysis, they can only approximate. But I’ve also heard neat stories of long lost family members being reunited. So, I suppose what one is using the tests for can vary how one views the success of the test. I know too that some are even more geared toward health analysis moreso than ethnic origins.
Same thing happened with my friend. Sad it's like a blow to the heart. But there are so many things that motivate people. That you have to respect those feelings. Maybe someday the Mother will come around.
So the mother is trying to deny the past by punishing her daughter?
@@tulsaguy9963 That is not how she sees it at all. She sees it as having a child for people who wanted children and she has said that she has no right to any information on the child or that family. I also believe that since the father (now deceased) left her before learning she was pregnant, had three daughters, by three different mothers, and supported none of them, she doesn't want in any way to be connected to his family, which still lives near where she lives. But, she has never said that to me, so it's just a guess.
@@lorelleblackwell8556These mothers used to be told they were “vessels” to bear children for other people.
This was emotional abuse, but they believed what was told them.
My first mother rejected reunion, and said she was “merely the vehicle through which [I] entered the world.”
This was cruel. She was my mother. I have two mothers- my biological mother and my adoptive mother. Both contributed to who I am. Nature and nurture.
My first mother’s rejection of me, based upon what she was told to believe at the age of 19 and believed throughout her whole life, was a cruel joke played upon me by the adoption industry, her parents, and the maternity home to which she was sent.
This was the mother that nature wanted me to be with. She was the one I bonded to in utero and was expecting and looking for when I was born.
I really just do not get how people can see their results and start bursting into tears after finding out they’re “5 percent ______”
And i understand :)
"celestial"
Hehe
everyone from black Africa has zero Neanderthal DNA, everyone from everywhere else has Neanderthal DNA, so Chinese Arab White Indian Mayan all have Neanderthal ancestry, FACT for you
Remember, if you're white, it is all about purity. Thankfully, there is no purity.
Every time an army passed through they would leave their DNA behind.
Everyone keeps forgetting that
Not just an army, but also merchants, envoys etc.
Sicily in particular changed hands many times
I believe the original britain dna was superceded by german saxon dna only several hundred years ago 🤣
Somer kids. Some er here some er there. So I said some er everywhere
I have had 2 adopted cousins contact me because they were trying to figure out who their parents were. I was able to help both of them get in contact with a parent. I think it's pretty accurate for finding family. My results have changed multiple times for my heritage. I just did the test for fun so I am ok with that.
Testing for who you're related to is very different from testing for where you came from.
Identical sequences should yield identical results
@@danielculver2209 And considering we share 99% of our DNA worldwide, we are all family.
These test couldn't test anything accurate. They're a rip off. Identical twins have ZERO DNA variation. They failed at detecting identical twins, lmao.
@@360revolucion8 Not true identical twins do not have identical dna after birth, there are variations.
@@nathr7375 identical twins have identical DNA unless there was a rare mutation.
These country boundaries are largely imaginary lines that change over time so...
Bingo
and?
Countries borders developed out of ethnic boundaries. Especially in Europe
@@KN-oq6lv Twins aren't 100% identical. There's always a small difference. And even the slightest difference could change the results.
@@KN-oq6lv And every child gets a random selection of genes from each parent. Having the same parents only means you start with the same genes you are going to take a selection from - siblings can have very different genes from within that selection.....
"I got it for my mom for fun, cause she's so proud of her Irish heritage" Turns out her mom was 50% African 😂
Luna Sea When I was a kid I thought our Family was 100% IRISH because Mom & Dad both had IRISH last names. Turns out the O'GRADY name was more English than IRISH. We had to have some IRISH we were born with IRISH FRECKELS HA HA
jim ogrady Haha. Nice!
I am very proud of my African ancestry, but it’s less than expected.
@@profscarlett cry about it
"Passed"...well at least in the US. I bet there's an interesting story there.
Well I mean it’s very difficult with the current technology to find out the entire DNA sequence. They specifically look at a certain parts of the DNA. Of course they will have some errors and they update it over time. It’s great that they are updated over time.
It's mainly about private companies collecting genetic information that is sold to China and the CIA for policing purposes........
Lol, the most confident part is where the DNA company gets your money
Emphasis on the "con" part, lol.
Brilliant
and your dna - your genetic fingerprint
Yes. 23 and me lost me when they said I have blue eyes and red hair. I’m a brown-eyed brunette.
Or where the DNA company turns another profit from selling your info to drug companies
I turned out to be 100% earthling.
Hi neighbor! Glad to share with you. = )
I guess it depends how far back you look
I didn't get that at all....
SAME HERE! I'M 0.099% apple, and 0.001% dandelion. 🤫
Hmm.. best re-test
The problem is that they are Sicilian, like myself. We were original Greeks on the island, conquered by the Arabs, reconquered by the Franks, and the Normans. That is why their DNA is that way. Ancestry takes all that info and makes it Sicily, others break down the Sicilian mix. My DNA follows the history of the island and its conquers. That is why it is important to know history. Mystery solved. You are welcome.
I don't even know why they even wondered about them not having higher percentage of 'Italian' ancestry especially if their ancestors came from Sicily. They really need to read up on the history of Sicily much less Italy.
@asdf Because I am the result of the Sicilian inhabitants that were conquered by the Normans. And yes, there are blonde haired, light eyed Sicilians because of this. I also have Arab DNA as well because the town my family is from Sambuca di Sicilia was conquered by the Arabs at one time. Just as I have Lebanese friends who are blonde haired and light eyed because of the same conquerors.
@@ArtistGV You can get dark haired and dark eyed Northern European and blond haired and blue eyed Southern Europeans. It doesn't mean because someone has blond hair that they have a Viking in the woodpile or a Northern European has an Italian ancestor.
Greeks were conquerors too, they weren't the original inhabitants of the island.
@@TheAnarchistBeekeeper The Siculi were Phoenicians - most identify them as Greek.
This show put me off ever doing it but then the comments made me want to do it again. Good to know the pros and the cons
Historically speaking, Sicilians were mostly from Greece, so the Greek/Balkan results are not strange.
Yeah, Greeks built colonies all the way to Marseille. Also Greeks are in the Balkan .. Italy was the center of Roman empire and people from all Mediterranean went their to settle and live the Roman dream.. anyone with basic knowledge of history would anticipate it.
Mary Vallas Sicily is made up of Albanians honey
The Arbereshe
@@jonikej When I said Historically speaking.... it is before Albania existed. They were Macedonians... hence... Greek.
Mary Vallas I am talking about people from Albanian territories and they were not Greek or Macedonian
@@maryvallas772 Macedonians werent "greek", macedonians shared the "helenistic" culture with greeks but they werent "greek".
lol these companies are collecting data and making money. Nice trick.
and what? What you have to hide?
@@iriszildikog.5036 It is more of the fact that you give your DNA and pay for it. If it is not concering that companies now have your complet DNA and all for free, then I don't know what is.
@@saa7181 Its OK, I payd for have a bit fun with my familie, if there want my boring DNA, its fine with me :D
@@iriszildikog.5036 Well that's fine then :D.
Yep, I've read that. Their only purpose is to collect data on human DNA, and not so much to give people the right answers. Money making is another reason.
It's shocking to me that people actually thought the results are 100% accurate without estimation. To me I always just assumed it was estimation
Totally. They keep talking about how misleading it is, and omg they're even saying that they've given a best guess! And this one says it's only 50% confident in their results?!
So yes, its an estimate. I have no idea why people wouldn't realise, or why you'd be angry when the companies actually point it out. I thought that's what they wanted?
Of course. The thing is, the more people that take these tests the more accurate they become. This is because the companies will have more DNA to extract and more information from them means you can pinpoint the locations more precisely. It's no different than doing medical tests on a broader population say...100,000 vs 1,000 people. The results will be more specific the more information you have, since no 2 people are the same.
It's the advertisements. People are really naive and don't understand population genetics. People imagine these nationalities or ethnicities existed since the beginning of time, unchanged. Meanwhile, they're mostly cultural fabrications.
In the ads they make it seem that they are 100% correct so its not that shocking
@Bre Ne I assume you have higher esteem since in your estimation you correctly estimated that it was estimated.
My family on both sides kept ancestry records that were detailed and went back four generations. I did 23andMe and didn't know what to expect. I was not surprised by any of the results. It was exactly the percentages I had been told. I was expecting maybe a surprise or two, but nope. I was even given the same percentages of German, French and Irish from 23andMe that I had calculated from records. So there you go...my husband also got the results he expected.
According to my results my ancestors were cows. That can't be right.
I've seen your mother.. You're right
Hereford or Angus?
Probably should have swallowed that quarter pounder before swabbing. lol
Cows? That's udder nonsense.
makes sense,therefore the name...
What baffles me is that the reporter and her team could not find out that Greeks colonised Sicily and that the Balkan is neighbouring Greece and people migrated between countries for thousands of years (for example: Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a country in the balkans).
Furthermore, you couldn't find anyone who can explain how statistics actually works? I mean, this isn't rocket science.
I was surprised nobody mentioned that as well... Btw Alexander the great was born in Macedonia, a region of Greece and the country that is named North Macedonia today actually contains only a small part of the territory of the ancient greek kingdom of Macedonia.
Macedonians (North Macedonia/FYROM) are ethnic Bulgarians in deny. Also, Alex The Great was NOT born there.DNA tests do not take into account the population migration. Why Greece & Balkans and not Thrace?
Snooooore
Michael Ernst All of that’s irrelevant.
Michael Ernst pyrrhic wars
I did Ancestry.com and their results were completely consistent with what I know about my background, I also hooked up with relatives that had more detailed background about our grandparents, etc. and found out other interesting things, I did it for the entertainment value. Btw, I love the updates, the results become more defined---this has to do with the expansion of their data base, why is this so surprising? it makes sense to me.
I think they just wanted to make a dramatic reporting piece and twisted the story to sound like this is a big marketing scam when actually is a result of the fact that the database does need to expand and will improve over time.
I did them as well. My initial findings fit very closely with my genealogy. Their update, however, for me, falls apart and does not really reflect well even the past 100 years of known ancestry. Something went way off on their update for me. 23andMe's update, however, seems more accurate.
Mine was accurate except one area we were Irish instead of what should have been german or similar area. Figured out via DNA relatives that my great grandfather was probably NOT my great grandfather. Trying to fill the gaps but we don't know my mother's grandfather is. We have leads, but we'll have to do golden state killer type research in building trees and trying to identify people. If there is a single adopted unknown who fell through the cracks in having a paper trail...it isn't going to be easy.
@@PapaPhilip in the update I found out that I am 13% Norwegian which was not really a surprise, I am almost entirely British and we all know about the Vikings and their raids, anyway, I highly recommend using findagrave.com which has some free info, when I looked up my last name (which is not common but very British sounding) I found a slew of people with that name buried in Norway.
@@omfug7148 Actually, you found out that you are an ESTIMATED 13%.
I did ancestry. Not sure about my ancestors, but was immediately linked to known relatives. Also found my uncle's daughter whom I did not know existed.
same.
I was linked to known relatives.
The finding relatives is very accurate. The ethnicity part changes as they get more testing people around the world. The matching of dna is the accurate part. We just found a 70 yo cousin who didnt know her dad wasn't her dad. When we told her, she said that explains why this and that was said as I was growing up. Its accurate for finding people, just not the ethnicity part
Well yeah that is what DNA is used for. Maury has been doing this for years. Lol
@@Daijxo lol 😂
Maury: "You ARE the father!"
Father: "Damn..."
Which service did you use?
Ya!haa
I have found out that even when it says 0,5% common DNA in matches it lines up with how I am related to them when we compare family trees and find out we share a common ancestor in the 1800s
It's almost as if our ancestors moved around a lot
They really didn't.
@@TheOwenMajor Since most human civilizations were nomadic they really did
@@s.a.8548 the people's of Europe advanced beyond nomadicy thousands of years ago.
If only everyone had built a wall..
@@TheOwenMajor ...really now. Aren't you the same people in Australia, the Americas, and some Asian/African regions? Come on now. Every tribe move around A LOT. Europeans isn't an exception.
I swabbed my dog
He’s from Russia apparently
That's funny af lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂 What is wrong with you? Omg 🤣
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Love your comment about your dog! Took me totally by surprise never thought of swabbing an animal. It makes sense though, dogs have been man's best friend for many thousands of years.
Damnit. The funniest comment ever.. 🤣🤣🤣
I found my sister through 23 and me last year. I’m also a twin and we both took the test 2 years apart and the results are very similar. We are fraternal so I knew our results would be exactly the same but only a few numbers off.
Lol a deep dive into fraternal twins will shock you, especially once you realise that being "twins" (aka same womb, same time) doesn't always mean being twins (same parentage, same results but a few numbers off). Human reproduction can be wacky like that.
Fraternal twins are more like siblings than actual identical twins, so you'd share around 50% of your genes.
I just found out the biggest advantage of having a twin. You can test out different hairstyles simultaneously.
The disadvantage is I have had grey hair ...and losing it for a lot of years while my twin is just starting to go grey and still has most of his .
are we too shallow? i was thinking the same thing!!!! hahaahahhaha
whoddaya My sister is 7 years older than me but we look very very similar. A few months ago she convinced me to get a short haircut (I’ve always had long hair) then got the exact same haircut. She literally just wanted to see how the haircut would look on her 😒
@@Kate-lc3ce That's not nice of her
Oh that's so true!
DNA doesn’t lie. Interpretations are another story.
@Zionism toHell In a sense it does. It confirms hundreds of my ancestors. It says more than you know, that is for sure.
Actually: Greek/balkan DNA in Sicily are common thing in fact Sicily was part of Greek a long time ago even today you can hear a version of greek language on Sicily spoken by natives and when we talking about Greeks they are ortodox christians like a lot of Slavic nations from which have a long tradition of close ties. Carigrad today Istanbul was ortodox capital city with slavic/russian priests before muslims/Turks run over.
@@altergreenhorn That's interesting.
@@altergreenhorn YES! Hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know that.
@@altergreenhorn Yes! Hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know that.
okay but why are they surprised to have a wide range from spain to greece, like it's the mediterranean, all those countries interacted with each other for literally thousands of years. idk i wouldn't be surprised for there to be a mix of ethnicities
In fact, Sicily was colonized by Greeks a couple thousand years ago.
I'm surprised they were surprised re their Greek ancestry. Sicily has a long history of being "owned" by various conquering armies throughout thousands of years. Greece ruled southern Itsly snd islands for hundreds of years so having their DNA still in the admix is fair enough.
Everything from Balkan and Greece to Northern Africa makes a lot of sense for somebody from Sicilian decent. The only surprising thing is when identical twins get different results ;)
so, The Illiad and roaming all around the Med, meant that Sailors had a wife in every port? you might be on to something there.
@@stephanieyee9784 Sicily was visited by Vikings and their cousins, the Normans. If your land is near any large transport route then it got invaded many times over the centuries. Norway and Sweden....not so much.
I feel like this was a young persons over-exaggeration of not knowing what the tests are for. The idea in my opinion is to get a GENERAL idea of where you came from. There is no test available that can give anything other than this. Maybe in 100 years or more there will be something, but unlikely as DNA doesn't and can't be defined to an area code. The PURPOSE behind the test is connecting with people who share your DNA. That is the point, in my opinion.
I agree however the problem is these companies are misleading and will say “find where your ancestors came from” and “find out your ancestry” and obviously won’t explicitly state that certain things are just estimates and say how they get their results or else people wouldn’t buy them. It’s just simple marketing tactics. These commercials make an emphasis on “connecting with your culture of your ancestry” and “know where you come from” so you can’t really blame people for not knowing since they’re so convinced that they don’t bother to do the research not knowing that they’re misleading with ethnicity tests. Of course I’m talking about the ancestry/ethnicity aspect not the traits or relatives aspect which you can tell accurately from someone’s dna.
they were all still generally correct, the sisters are from eastern europe and the mediterranean. its not like it pulled up incan or something random like that.
But that's not how they're marketed and that's part of the issue. If the most confident response they can get is "somewhere in Europe" then that's not really telling them anything that they didn't already know. So in other words you're spending money to let somebody tell you what continent your DNA is from.
Watch their ad at 7:00 , they market themselves as if they can pinpoint exactly what country your ancestors are from, brits and germans are not that different but it matters when they say they can tell you the difference
@@umachan9286 Kinda like $19.99 on a TV ad? We'll send you a second, just pay shipping. You should know better.
@@luckyb3859 Closer to $99 and we'll tell you which continent your ancestors are from. Kinda. These tests are notoriously unreliable. And yes, people should know better but they don't which is what keeps companies like this in business.
@@umachan9286 None of my DNA results from 23 and me has been unreliable. I have been working with other family members on a family tree on both sides of my family and my DNA reports is lining up pretty well.
Only difference between mine and an aunts on my dad's side is I got .4% Sub Saharan African (Congolese) and she has .4% Middle Eastern we both have 1% that cannot be identified. We cannot figure out where those came from because We have only been able to trace some family lines back to 1500s in Ireland, Germany, and England. The minuscule amounts of DNA are probably from much further back than we have gotten or from family members we cannot get more than 2 generations back on or are only able to get info on the mom or dad's side and predominately only The mothers and fathers are identified.
Makes sence that you have a lot of greek, considering that southern Italy was a greek colony
@Clementina Yael Severina M. Apart from the fact that Sicily did not have mass immigration from north africa, and the same applies to albania, yeah.
@SicilianScoundrel not mass immigration but elite immigration or work immigration . nobody goes to another placce for no reason .
It's amazing at the wave of people settling in Sicily. Between the Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Moors, Normans, it really was a crossroad.
Yes their DNA is not shocking at all. Of course they have a lot of Balkan and Middle Eastern DNA, the Barbary Moorish pirates traveled all over there as well as the Roman Empire has had history with the Balkans for a very long time. Patriotism and Nationalism are silly for this exact reason.
They remind me of tia and tamera mowry
J.Allen I was thinking the same !!
Me too! lol
Ohmergawd yes!
Sister sisterrrr
They even speak a little similar
My 23andme test results corresponded extremely closely to what we already knew about my family tree. I was impressed by the accuracy. My husband's results also mirrored almost exactly what his family already knew about their family tree. Results are probably more accurate for some populations than others, based on the sample size.
Was my fav test too
I guess it all depends- me any my sister were on the other side of that 50% - she had Native American dna - me none.
So, the DNA test is the modern version of the news paper horoscope.
Lol so true
Love this comment! So sad but true. To extend it... does that make your haplo group your birthdate / sign / lucky numbers?
Totally acceptable assumption based on facts! Thank you for making this point the way you did
LetzBeaFranque hehe
probably a 50% certain guess though
Saved myself $99
Thanks
Why?
Sho Kosugi Because it is a scam.
Rahim Htmal me 2
Lol, me too actually.
Exactly. My husband wasted money on one of these tests and gave him weird results. Lol
That's because us "ordinary" people don't understand DNA and expect it to reflect our modern concept of borders, ideologies and identity. It doesn't. It only tells us how we migrated through the world and who we married along the way. And, the data bases are still "learning" and that's why they change.
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Katie Weird come on tho if you’re paying over a hundred bucks for something you should be expecting results to be accurate.. identical twins but one is from scicily and one Tuscany
Yes but they were quite acurate namely: Greek/balkan DNA in Sicily are common thing in fact Sicily was part of Greek a long time ago even today you can hear a version of greek language on Sicily spoken by natives and when we talking about Greeks they are ortodox christians like a lot of Slavic nations from which have a long tradition of close ties. Carigrad today Istanbul was ortodox capital city with slavic/russian priests before muslims/Turks run over.
Please don't forget, Sicily was occupied by many different peoples.
I've always found weird these tests define your ancestry through current existing countries. Political divisions shouldn't apply to ethnic groups
Lady Von Hautkopf it makes it easier to understand since it’s modern.
They are just labels being applied so people can understand, the reality behind that is the haplogroups which is way much more interesting although much more complicated. What pisses me off is that these companies do the "keep it simple" part without even showing what's beneath it, so nearly all people just look at the map, which is just the tip of the iceberg, without even knowing there is something under it. They should do a better effort to present the vast information that the atDNA provides.
@@JavierAlbinarrate My Ancestry DNA told me I'm 50% Irish and 50% Northern English. What does that mean? I'm no wiser than my Family Tree already told me.
Agreed. Much of what we consider national identity is based on culture, rather than genetics. Language, religion, and political norms are, or were at least until very recently, better indicators of nationality. However, genetics can inform the conversation as to the unwritten history of a population.
Ethnic groups often shape the political landscape, take a look at the Balkans for example the borders are largely dictated by the ethnic groups living in them (also one of the reasons it's generally seen as quite an unstable region)
Seems like everyone is just out to rip you off these days. Integrity is just a word.
true
very true people are just raised to chase the almighty dollar as the # 1 thing..its sad.
Truth!
These days? As opposed to ANY TIME IN HISTORY?
It's always just been a word.
Hes complaining about only being 80% irish when in actual fact the majority of people here in Ireland are like only 50% irish.
Let us not forget the Spanish Armada or the Viking Invasions and the English influence who in turn are a mixture of Roman, French, German, Irish etc etc etc.
Conan O’Brien said his came back with only Irish DNA, and who would have guessed, haha!
hes not complaining about being 80% you brick lol. he's making the point about how it changed
Genevieve your very wrong about the Irish only being 50% in the republic of Ireland who told you that
@@Reggaeshark. okay...
I kind of think some of it makes sense. During times of antiquity many Greeks lived in Rome because of its importance. Those Greeks were eventually called “Romani” Romans, although still being genetically Greek. It think if random Italians in Italy took the test, a good percentage would have Greek heritage. For the Jewish apart that could be even Jewish Christians who were part of the diaspora.
This is weird because I know two sisters who did the dna test, and their results came back identical.
At 66, my daughter and three grandchildren found me with Ancestry DNA.
it was a dowsing rod in our case
@@jerkchickenblog
Heck, be glad it was only dowsing, they found me, and well, they said they were trying to Baptize me, the only problem was, they wouldn't let me up.
Aw how sweet. I hope you have a great loving bond and relationship with your granddaughter and grandchildren
@@hn45645 Thank you. We talk daily, but we have not met in person yet because we're in different countries. It's only been a few months since we found each other.
Awesome mate.
Hope you meet soon.
Three levels of lying:
Factual lies, marketing hype, and statistical summaries.
Harold Henderson “There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Mark Twain
Last fall I did 23andme, which linked me to my sister's long lost baby girl she gave up for adoption in 1969. I was delighted to call up my big sis and let her know, giving her the New-year's ever.
So worth it to find close relatives?
@@marcellemccalla6325 yes, but that assumes that they have done the test as well, it can only compare to the data it has in it's database. But yes it can accuratly find relatives.
@@marcellemccalla6325 I, my daughter and my brother, all have different names. My daughter and I have married named. We three live in separate parts of the U.S. It connected our relationships to each other .... of myself to my child and my sibling! They connected all three of us to each other, correctly. 👍🏼😉
Linking relatives is more accurate as it doesn't involve the calculation of ethnicity as they can just check if any dna in the database are similar to yours. the issue is not in how they analyze the dna but how they try to match it to a specific area of origin.
Many site’s specifically say, siblings can have different results, even twins.
Exactly !
Proving they are a scam. They both have exactly the same ancestors, so their DNA should be 99.99999% the same.
Eventually people will realize this is just a genetic data collection racket. *you are the product, your genetic material is the product.*
SeaRose see if you get cloned on the Ark2.0 seedship sent to the next star system after earth collapses into ruin
@@reidyo5404 what are their insta's?
@@reidyo5404 If nothing else, it'd give people a chance to reincarnate as themselves.
@@reidyo5404 It's not about cloning it's about researching your DNA so corporations who buy you data can deny you health care, a job and other services based on predictions and probabilities of you developing certain diseases, conditions and hereditary illnesses!
And selling your DNA to government agencies for identification purposes.
GlaxoSmithKline has complete access to 23&me's DNA database, purportedly to make genetic-specific vaccines
I did ancestry for myself, my mom and husband, it was very accurate, I am from Siberia, and I got 89% eastern european/russian and the rest Asian from my region in Siberia. My husband is Jewish and he got Ashkenazi jewish, so did his cousin , there were no mistakes in our test-I was shocked at how accurate they were.
Sorry to hear about your husband
@@test_pc_user lol
@@test_pc_user based
Which company?
My mother was adopted in the 50s. Recently connected with relatives through ancestry DNA, after decades of searching with no luck... You didn't mention the relative matching, which is more legit than putting a number on your ethnicity. I don't feel this report is entirely fair of the overall product.
This is why I did mine. I'm adopted - and my biological grandfather grew up in an orphanage. So, I am trying to connect to family. I take the heritage less seriously.
Please watch the video again. They did mention that their recreational testing piggybacks legitimate DNA testing. Their recreational testing is 99% of their business and they would lose money if they solely relied on legitimate testing.
Pure luck but there is a good chance that the relatives that were found are truly not your relatives at all. It is purely chance.
@@bitmln003_ You don't have a clue what you're talking about, eh?
The dna test did what 40 years of old fashioned research could not - produce legitimate results.
Your ignorant comment isn't helpful considering there's clearly other people out there that might be looking to use it for the same purpose. They don't need to be discouraged by some jerk that doesn't have a clue.
@@AliciaTaylorbe patient and you will have luck! It took my mom about 8 months until she had a close relative hit a match. She got in touch, a few month later a couple more matches, and now we've tracked down the family on both her mother and father's side!
Best of luck!!
My mother always assumed she is 100% Dutch. That's the culture in which she grew up. We decided to do DNA (National Graphic Geographic) tests a few years ago. She knew she had a😂 8th great grandfather who was from Spain, but she was shocked to find out the majority of her DNA is from European Mediterranean countries, from Portugal to the Slavic countries with a bit of France & Germany. That revelation explained a lot about the the skin tone of random family members, especially me, my maternal grandmother, and son. Amongst Blonde haired blue eyed family members stands me, my son, and our dark features!
did you finish watching the video? Your results about your ancestry breakdown is clearly a not scientific
You do realize that Spain controlled the Netherlands for period of time. So there could easily be Spanish genes in her family.
@@steveramsey7983 their was no spain until around 1492
@@steveramsey7983 We know there are.
Mediterraneans are not dark skinned. Im sick and tired of AngloSaxons talking about Mediterraneans as if they were "different" or exotic.
According to my DNA test, I am 23.7% Cheetos.
You should call the president of the United States, as you must be a lost member of the Trump family.....
@@davidhollenshead4892 Oh no, she'd better not do that, as otherwise the President might have to shell out another $130,000 in hush money to Saft Suse's mother... 😂
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@@quantumbubbles2106 I better not do that because then Trump would have to pay my mother?
How much do you assume I hate my mother? :P
Also, don't assume my gender! *triggered* I'm not a girl, I'm a bipolar pear!
Best Reply ever!!!😂
it's kind of your own fault if you buy one of these tests without understanding how they work. i bought a test on a christmas sale, but i knew that it was an estimate based on population averages, not a definitive look into your genetic ancestry. my results were exactly as i expected, and it matched me with an aunt and cousins that i haven't seen or spoken to since i was a kid.
Exactly. The misguided impression that people have given themselves with no trickery from anyone else is that race is inherent in DNA, and can be quantified, and that that's what these places are doing. It's not how DNA works, nor is it what anyone is suggesting that these models are telling us. This video is doing a real disservice to public general knowledge.
Yeah, I want to try one just for fun. I know for sure my grandparents came from Ireland, my great grandma was supposed to be on the titanic. My dad’s cousin that he knew in Ireland died young. I want to see if there’s any other family still there. 😀 If there’s no other family in the system then it’s still just for fun.
Stefan L., same here. And I found a cousin I did not know existed.
Which company reveals relatives with the test?
Hate to be that "ackshually" guy but it _is_ a pretty definitive look into your ancestry, it's that continental European ethnicities aren't easy to distinguish from each other as they're so similar. It will definitely tell you how NW European versus Southern European you are though for example. Some companies also have better samples than others.
Why did the US army warn its service people NOT to do these tests? Things that make you go hmmm.
Becuz they are all test subjects. Here u need to take this injection. Just get in line a shutup...
Coz it poses privacy issues. This could be used to unmask a person going undercover (from what I've heard)
@@zinniaward8549 Yes, this is how they are solving old cold cases. They use the unknown victim’s or suspect’s DNA profile and then use the DNA matches in these databases to create a DNA family tree until they can zero in on the possible identity, at which point, the police take over to get more evidence to support the identification.
@@farbotnik it's called familial searching, which is illegal in Canada and in most of the US 🙃
@@discorsion It is probably because many soldiers will leave their calling cards behind (if you know what I mean) and it would identify the fathers of their children
Just saw this. Fascinating for sure. My sister did the text and it was accurate as to what we’ve been told but have always been tempted to do my own. Guess I don’t want my DNA floating around out there. Thank you.
The ethnic breakdown estimates are a little dubious for sure, particularly when you get into smaller percentages. But since my family can trace their lineage back at least 400 years (on some branches) without the use of a dna test, the dna test results actually corroborated my family’s written genealogical records. No, they aren’t perfect, but they are accurate enough to a certain point. They will give you a close approximate, and in ancestry’s DNA’s case, show you who your relatives are if they have taken the test.
Which one did you use ?
t(He)y said 'Ancestry DNA'. Not sure from the thumbnail or the name.
This is so true. I have a lot of info about my family, on both sides, and know our ancestry quite well. Mine and my brother's DNA tests mostly just backed up what we already knew. So it seems to me they can definitely be informative.
And over time genetics are not carried down as people no longer inherit them. Not everything is inherited as you go. That's why they say to do ancestry research and family trees to confirm all relationships or ones that are missing.
@@OpiumBride South east Asia had a lot of interactions with the middle east. That's how Indonesia became Muslim.
Why is everyone so confused, it’s basic statistics! Your data and results are only as good as the quality of the inputs! This only told me that science and math aren’t actually being taught and understood in our education systems.
Yes this show seems to think they are exposing some scam when all they are doing is exposing how ignorant they are. This report is just as misleading as the advertising. They have completely neglected to mention the extremely accurate and powerful data unlocked by these DNA tests that can reunite lost family and confirm exactly where your ancestors came from by connecting you to their other descendants.
They could easily have summarised the criticisms from the experts better, eg by saying that because 1. the database of people being compared is limited, and 2. genes migrate, and 3. no genes are restricted to certain regions, and 4. they only compare some of your genes, therefore it's an estimate.
Basically people who fundamentally misunderstand how these tests work. 15 minutes of googling would have given them all the information they need.
Wrong, it's not basic statistics. When you give the same input in the system you should have the same answer, with the same margins of error, as at 15:11. Confirmed by a biostatistician a few seconds later. Go back to school.
lelorenzo no need to come on here being rude. The database is changing, the number of people your DNA is being compared to is ever increasing and therefore ever changing your results. So your results depend on everyone else in the database and the specific algorithm the companies’ use to match your DNA. It’s not an argument it’s just what is going on.
And at the end of the day, the companies say in the fine print what the accuracy is. They are businesses at the end of the day...sell kits , make money, and sell the dna info to other companies. 🤷🏻♀️
While I do believe that these results are not super accurate, they still shed some light about your ancestry. While your percentages varied between companies, the regions were more or less the same. If they mention an area with a decent percentage, you probably have some ancestry in that area, just don't trust the percentage to be exact.
This!
I find it funny that this report has this air of: "We just uncovered a scam", when all it is could be summarized as science in action.
The more Datasets they have the more "correct" those predictions will turn out, and the fact, that most of those assumptions do somewhat overlap is stunning already.
Everybody with a brain should know that via human migration clear cut national results are more or less a fun party trick but not really telling you much aside from the general regions you *might* have come from.
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There is more than one variation of “Why this test is important” and that would be the family connection. We find DNA matches that are distant and some even more closely matched relatives.
Not to mention if they had been male twins their results would have been much more accurate. Women don't receive a full panel. You are much better off having your dad or brother/ uncle take the test. The whole XX XY deal. Women's profiles come back missing portions of their fathers ancestry report. Since a female is XX she will be missing info from her fathers Y gene.
23andme has continously updated my results. The more people that do it, the more accurate it gets. I found an uncle's daughter he didn't even know he had, in her 40s.
Quel legal, como isso funciona?
No teste aparecem pessoas que podem ser nossos familiares?
DNA connected a woman to a cousin of mine. He had been in Korea and was sent to Germany for treatment of wounds. While recuperating he must have caught the eye of a lovely maiden because after he went home she learned she was with child.
Either didn't know how to find him or thought it best to let it go.
Then in 2021 the child sent in DNA and the four of us who sent ours in suddenly find a family member no one knew of. My cousin, the unsuspecting father, had passed away several years ago so he didn't have to own up to his wife. His wife was accepting of it since there was no way he could have known and he was a really good husband and father to his known family. And he wasn't married until after he came back from Korea.
There HAVE been some surprises that shook families up when it is learned one of the kids is not from the same father.
One girl on YT found out she was not from either parent at about age 16. They never told her she was adopted because they wanted her to feel she truly was their child.
Thanks for noting this. Most of the companies update results constantly as better testing pools and more science comes along. I have tested with 4 of the mentioned tests in the video and found a lot of family members (I'm adopted). It's interesting to see how they have refined relation statuses even as they get more related test results. It has become much more accurate each year.
Breaking down DNA is extremely difficult with a $49.99 test.
However these test can do some amazing things like leading to capture of the original Night Staker.
Plus on a personal level, it made a huge difference in my life. My mother passed away when I was in high school and later I found out my brother and sister had a different father than I did! The secret of my fathers identity died with her. After 50 years a DNA test lead to the location of my biological father.
Oh wow
Richard Ramirez (the Night Stalker) had already been arrested and convicted before DNA evidence was really a thing. Twenty years later, DNA testing led to the discovery that he was responsible for a previously unsolved murder.
What company did you use?
I'm still choosing to believe that Conan O'Brian is 100% irish.
@Joe's Dirt wrong go look for Conan O'Brien's 100% Irish it's Apsolutely Hilarious 😂
He's inbred. lol (I saw the interview)
I loved the Conan o'brien interview
Thanks for the research. Everyone should see this!
Oh, I'm looking forward to this. I love Marketplace and what they investigate.
RIGHT? They are fantastic at getting to the roots of blatant business practices.
@Greg Last What? They question the government and reach out to government officials many times on Marketplace. Your argument has already been shot down.
I didn't think they had European ethnicity. I thought they were middle eastern, arab or latina. One thing is not debatable, they are total babes:)
@@hu6284 Marketplace did some good busting of homeopathy a couple of years back.
The 23 and Me confidence selector is for the downloadable data. Go to their FAQ and look up "What do the different confidence thresholds mean? section for clarification. The prof from Montreal answered "yes" to your confidence question, but one can easily see that he is unsure and is agreeing because he doesn't want to seem like he does not know what he is talking about. For 23 and Me, the heritage they are most confident about has an 80% confidence level; this they refer to as "highly likely". When one sees "possible" beside an ancestry prediction, they mean 50-60% confidence in their prediction. If they are less than 50% confident, they tell you "not detected". When you want to download the raw data you can filter by confidence level. Choose 50% if you want uncertain results included. Use a higher confidence level if you only want the data for which your correlations are highly likely. 23 and Me are very transparent about how they sample and interpret data. All of this was known to me by reading their on line literature BEFORE I bought their service.
Man imagine the head of the kkk takes this test and finds out. He's from AFRICA
That actually happened to one guy on a tv show... He got kicked out of the kkk and his "friends" wrote rascist slurs on his house 🙃👌🏿
The test confirmed I am at 10" African
I always think about that when I see white supremacists protesting and shouting racists slogans. Some of them don't look too European either (at least not Nordic). They don't have to have African DNA but what about Jewish? or other not so white ancestry.
George Barajas and he probably is
That's what happened with Graydon Creed, when he found out that his father is a mutant named Sabortooth. LOL
I knew my results were an estimate. I did research before I purchased the kit. I think the best thing about these kits is that they can help you find relatives.
I'd be curious to see what the results would have been if you (even without your twin) had sent 5 samples, collected and sent at the same time, to the SAMES company, but under different names if possible. Would they all come back with more or less the same results? Somehow I doubt it.
twins have the same DNA anyway, so this is basically the same as sending two pieces of DNA from the same person
Also what one of the swab had animal saliva on it lmao just a thought