Nababago ang pananaw na yan pag naka pag abroad ang pinoy. Dahil makikita nila na pantay pantay lng pala at hindi kayang gawin ng mga dayuhan ang hospitality na ginagawa natin para sa kanila
Malay kingdoms/rajahnates/sultanates in general. Pero since di lang mga Melayu mga kapitbahay natin, malamang may influences din from China, Japan, and perhaps may influence din na galing talaga dito sa kapuluan.
@@Zoeyzoey-pr1wz they have been under British protectorate and royal residency until early 20th century. After WW2 na kang sila nagkaroon ng independence. Pero while under british occupancy their own monarchy is being continued.
Ms. Mona, ang sarap po siguro ksmaa kayo sa panunuod ng sine tapos magkakape after for an in depth analysis and discussion! Thanks for your insights about this movie, I’ll watch it!
Thanks for the preview. Definitely would look out for the things you mentioned. The BTS of this was quite revealing too as the consultants did admit that "creative license" was done often by production. So it wasnt really too close to pre colonial conditions. They wanted a family drama that appeals to the masses of today. More curious now on how this world was able to stave off foreign invasions and still embrace english as a second language. A lot of asian countries look at english only to communicate with foreigners. Anyway, that looks like the least of the concerns of a monarchy that thrives on society with hierarchy.
Excellent movie review. Your insights and ideas linking some of the film highlights to historical and social questions and commentaries about the Filipino culture and our present realities are spot on.
Lagi talagang thought-provoking ang mga content ni Madam!! Maraming salamat po sa laging pagseshare nyo ng inyong insights. Marami po akonh natututunan!! Nawa'y happy po ang inyong holidays!! :)
If we have a strong regionalism, baka mas bagay pa sanang ginaya yun form of government ng Malaysia. May federal republics and may hari and reyna and all
Philippine Monarchy would be like more like Malaysia where's there's Different Royal Family because it is a confederation of different kingdom. And the supreme king would be elected by other royals
I have not watched the movie yet but i would love to see a part where deprived people would ask "what if nacolonize tayo ng ibang lahi tulad ng ...? Baka mas naging mabuti sana ang buhay natin ngayon"
Kahit hindi tayo nasakop magiging watak watak parin tayo , Dahil may sumasagana Sa paghihirap ng marami , Bayad ng buwis Ibubulsa lang ng mga Politiko gahaman sa Confidential funds
@@ryansubong7805 I think this review also shows that it was difficult to question the royal family as they were seen as "gods". The hierarchy in this made the lower classes clamor for better distribution of resources. The what if does tackle the question of would life have been better without external influences or would the powerful just be the same as now.
Sana para tayong Thailand. Yung nag-evolve tayo ng natural. Sa tingin ko okay lang din kung magiging magkakaiba tayo ng bansa, basta maayos ang pamumuhay ng mga tao. Wala naman kasi yan sa laki.
Already watched this movie yesterday. My wife and her sisters (6) watched Vilma Santos movie. According to them parang mas worth it na Kingdom na lang pinanood nila even before I told them how good Kingdom was. Anyway, Vic tried to play comedy at some point pero hardly noticed eh 😂.
For sure this will not be box office. Di kasi relate ang most pinoys at kung walang extra budget movie lang ni vice ganda ang papanuorin kung they had to choos3. Ang pilipino ayaw magisip kahit may kakayahan. Kung sa 100m na pinoy for sure 20 m lang ang nagiisip and gusto mag isip so sad to say, even if this is a good movie, may mas kikita at mamamayagpag sa takilya. Real talk lang po
May mga country na nabuo Mula sa magkakaibang kingdoms like Italy. Marahil will do it the Italian way para maging one nation.but definitely we will be an Islamic country as Islam is prevailing over the South and conquer from Muslim neighboring kingdom were landing in some parts of Visayas.
Just like any monarchy, asian & west, possible na nagevolve in time ang parliament & laws kase parang the story setup e lahat ngevolve into modern influences pero naiwan yung traditional laws.baka more of ceremonial na lng at less hands on at nagdedesisyon ang monarchy, fhwy let people govern through parliament. possible din na naghiwahiwalay na self governing kingdoms ang Pinas kase yung archipelago napag isa lang naman dahil sa spanish colonization. Magkakaiba culture & traditions. Example muslims region will tend to have a sharia law as constitution, gaya sa nangyari sa india at Pakistan, naghiwalay ang islamic region & ngtagtayo ng sarili after ibigay ng British monarchy independence.
Maybe if we have regional differences and hindi tayo nasakop ng sino man. We will evolve either into a federal type of government na may revolving monarchy or matitiwalag ang ilang parts ng Mindanao and palawan which means there might be civil war. Sadly we can only be united fully after a civil war kasi iba iba tayo at needed na iisa na ang mamuno sa taas or tatanggapin na ng lahat ang union natin just like the u.s. we can only look sa mga experiences ng ibang bansa bago sila nagkaroon ng national identity na maaring mangyari sa atin. Just like China was united by Emperor Chin and conquered by the Khans, and Japan with the shogunate and the emperor.
Napanood ko na ang movie at ang ganda. Tama ang sinabing info ni maam Magulang at may plot twists. Bet kong manalong Best actor si Piolo or Vic sa MMFF awards night.
Lahat ay posibilidad lamang. Ang Colonization ay hindi "end all" or "be all" kung mabuo man o hindi ang isa bansa. Ang mahalaga ay kun ano uri o quality ng pagkatao ang mga inhabitants dito ngayon.
Sadly, colonization did influence us through religion and education. We barely have a pre colonial identity to speak off. Its more of the spanish and american influences we hold on too.
@geopadilla1455 Exactly. Colonization happened at d time when d culture & peopling of this archipelago is in its infancy stage. Hence, a neo-culture was developed instead. Like a tree that was not allowed to grow before it reach its maturity.
Nasaan ang mga gold? Kasi based sa sinabi ni Pigafetta kahit mga alipin meron ginto na pamana ng mga ninuno nila. Hindi tama yan kung hindi rich sa gold at kung hindi multiple chiefs.
As per Pigafetta, kahit maraming local chiefs, they chose who will lead them to war. Imagine, paano kumalat na may mga dayuhan (team ni Magellan) noon kung hindi maayos ang communication system nila? Paanong nakapaghanda ang grupo ni Lapu-Lapu ng mga patibong? Maganda ang communication ng community noon ng bansa natin kahit na mga pulo at isla tayo.
Gold might possibly be transported to Spain. Maybe Spain sold some to US. Maybe Japanese took some of it. The gold of the Katipunan was implied to be stolen by the gf of Antonio Luna who married a Chinese Cojuangco.
Ano ang halaga ng pagiging Pilipinas & Pilipino kun sa realidad ay wala naman bagay na tunay to be proud of as 1 nation? Kung ang ngalan ng Pilipinas ay hinango sa 1 Hari na kriminal & walang dangal?
Sa totoo lang, meron namang maipagmamalaki mga Pilipino. For example, iba yung klase ng resilience na kahit magkakasunod na bagyo ang tumama sa bansa, e may mindset na kayang bumangon uli, yung tipong kahit na lumulutang na sa gitna ng baha ang lahat e kaya pang gumawa ng video/reel na comedy pang-social media. Ang kaso e pag ang isang trait na may positive side sana, naabuso o napaoasobra. Tipong, resilient naman ang Pilipino, kaya wag na natin sikapin na i-improve pa ang current situation, tiisin na lang. Dun nagkakaproblema.
Oo nga naman no, pasalamat tayo sa mga mananakop natin. Kasi sila yung naging dahilan ng pagkakaisa ng buong arkepilago na magkaroon ng isang layunin natayoy magiging isang nasyon o isang bansa na malaya.
malakas ang Regionalism natin kahit na nasakop pa tayo ng ibang Bansa at "pinag-unite" tayo...kaya sana, baguhin na ng mga namumuno ang Form of Government natin, gawin na lang Federal para sabay-sabay ang pagunlad tapos pantay-pantay ang tingin natin sa isat-isa...unlike sa Setup ngayon...para ang dating NCR lng ang ponakamagaling, maunlad at matatalino...
nakita ko yung trailer. dun pa lang may sablay na. nadinig kong binanggit ni piolo ang word na Diyos. loan word sa kastila yun. dapat panginoon ang sinambit nya. pero interesante padin naman ang pelikula.
@@HameSe lol off course, English is a Universal Language. at kahit tayong mga pinoy yung pre colonial era natin ay may impluwensya ng Chinese, India at Arab. ang mga title na Sultan at Raja ay Arab at Indian, yung word na Guro ay galing sa Guru ng India at kaya may Curry din tayo. nakakasalamuha at nakaka transaksyon natin ang mga yan. pero ang Espanya ang layo layo satin nyan. nagkaron lang ng Impluwesya satin Dahil Sinakop nila tayo. eh ang istorya nga nito ay Paano Kung Hindi nila tayo nasakop. so pano sila magkakaron ng impluwesya satin kung ganun???
Pwede ring trading with other countries such as Spain or Mexico, pero hindi rin sinakop ang Pinas. Tandaan mo, modern society ang setting so trades with different countries kahit malayo ay posible. Sometimes these are intentional errors too. Grabe naman maka-perfect.
@@delbee718 lol nagkaron lang tayo ng kalakalan sa espanya nung hawak na nila tayo. nagsimula lang ang Manila Galleon noong 1560s. nabuksan lang ang Ideya na to nung pumunta dito si Magellan, nakita nila Posible pala pero Hindi Mdali. kahit namatay si Magellan at ilang Sablay o Failure ang paglalakbay ng ibang tumangka para sa planong Trading. kundi sa pagpipilit ni Andres De Urdaneta di ito na mangyayari. gain this movie is about What If. What if Hindi Tayo nasakop ng Espanya. mag aral ka ng Kasaysayan ng Lahi at Bayan Mo wag aasa sa Pelikula lang
@@onzkie2671 That's a rather myopic observation. Conquest is not a requirement for a language to evolve. As you said, we were able to acquire loanwords from China, India, and Arabia due to TRADE, so what's stopping Kalayaan from getting linguistic influence from European countries? You have to remember that the only thing changed in this timeline is that we weren't conquered by a foreign power. The movie didn't say anything about the Treaty of Tordesillas not happening. Spain still would've found its way to Kalayaan shores in the 1500s and decided to keep Kalayaan as a trading partner instead of simply a territory to conquer. Fast forward to the present, some Spanish words slip into the cracks and that could easily explain why "diyos" is in the Kalayaan vocabulary. What's "sablay" is you underestimating how a language develops over time.
But after WW2, that quickly changed. The emperor is a ceremonial figure head to accommodate other countries that still have royal families. The US made sure it had influence in a lot of things in Japan.
Done watching it. Sulit! Marami kang matutunan! Grabe ang production! Magaling ang cast! Hindi sayang ang pera!
Based on experience and observation, mas salbahe ang pinoy sa kapwa pinoy, kumpara sa bait nya sa foreigners.
Nababago ang pananaw na yan pag naka pag abroad ang pinoy. Dahil makikita nila na pantay pantay lng pala at hindi kayang gawin ng mga dayuhan ang hospitality na ginagawa natin para sa kanila
Pero baka kaya ganito tayo dahil din sa ilang mga dayuhan na sumakop sa atin, nawalan ng pagmamahal sa sariling lahi.
Two words for Ms. Mona: *ALTERNATE. HISTORY.*
Nice review... probably the 1st Filipino movie i'll give a chance watching for a very long time.
Sobrang ganda ng pagkakanarate. Kahit hindi nako manuod
Sobrang interesting yung world building sa premise ng pelikulang to. Definitely a must watch!
If ever this country wasn't colonized. Our Royalty or Monarchy is much more closer to the one at Brunei.
Malay kingdoms/rajahnates/sultanates in general. Pero since di lang mga Melayu mga kapitbahay natin, malamang may influences din from China, Japan, and perhaps may influence din na galing talaga dito sa kapuluan.
Bkit Kya d ncilonize Ang brunei
@@Zoeyzoey-pr1wz they have been under British protectorate and royal residency until early 20th century. After WW2 na kang sila nagkaroon ng independence. Pero while under british occupancy their own monarchy is being continued.
Or the likes of the sultanates of Malaysia na independent and may pagka federal
Ms. Mona, ang sarap po siguro ksmaa kayo sa panunuod ng sine tapos magkakape after for an in depth analysis and discussion! Thanks for your insights about this movie, I’ll watch it!
Galing talaga ng movie review and commentary nyo. Love it!
Thanks for the preview. Definitely would look out for the things you mentioned. The BTS of this was quite revealing too as the consultants did admit that "creative license" was done often by production. So it wasnt really too close to pre colonial conditions. They wanted a family drama that appeals to the masses of today.
More curious now on how this world was able to stave off foreign invasions and still embrace english as a second language. A lot of asian countries look at english only to communicate with foreigners. Anyway, that looks like the least of the concerns of a monarchy that thrives on society with hierarchy.
I super value your insights here, makes me want to run and ses this movie immediately...and nice hair po! 😊
very interesting ... panoodin ko ito..
Very insightful review of what I think is an intelligent movie! ❤
Not a fan of vic sotto pero na convince mo ako to check it out. Thanks for the review.
Yup. People watch Vic Sotto for the comedy. He may end up doing more of these if it earns more.
This movie if a pure what if in the past and should have been in the future.
Excellent movie review. Your insights and ideas linking some of the film highlights to historical and social questions and commentaries about the Filipino culture and our present realities are spot on.
thank you for the review. Una ko sa listahan ko
Lagi talagang thought-provoking ang mga content ni Madam!!
Maraming salamat po sa laging pagseshare nyo ng inyong insights. Marami po akonh natututunan!!
Nawa'y happy po ang inyong holidays!! :)
If we have a strong regionalism, baka mas bagay pa sanang ginaya yun form of government ng Malaysia. May federal republics and may hari and reyna and all
Philippine Monarchy would be like more like Malaysia where's there's Different Royal Family because it is a confederation of different kingdom. And the supreme king would be elected by other royals
Nakakapanood na lang ako ng movies ngayon kapag pinapalabas sa free TV. I will wait and watch. Thank you for the review.
Hahakot ng awards for sure ang pelikula na ito kung hindi man tumabo sa takilya..
I have not watched the movie yet but i would love to see a part where deprived people would ask "what if nacolonize tayo ng ibang lahi tulad ng ...? Baka mas naging mabuti sana ang buhay natin ngayon"
Parang gusto ko na rin to panuorin.
Kahit hindi tayo nasakop magiging watak watak parin tayo ,
Dahil may sumasagana
Sa paghihirap ng marami ,
Bayad ng buwis
Ibubulsa lang ng mga
Politiko gahaman sa
Confidential funds
Hahaha... most negative mindset. Ang pelikula ay tungkol sa "what if" naging ibang klaseng tao ang Filipino, tapos ipilit na ganito pa rin.
😂😂😂😂 patawa yung pre colonial phil ay federal form hindi centralized katulad ngaun
@@ryansubong7805 I think this review also shows that it was difficult to question the royal family as they were seen as "gods". The hierarchy in this made the lower classes clamor for better distribution of resources. The what if does tackle the question of would life have been better without external influences or would the powerful just be the same as now.
Thank u Malou😂😂😂
Hindi mo nga naspoiled yung movie pero..dami na yung binigay hint ideas 👌
Sana para tayong Thailand. Yung nag-evolve tayo ng natural. Sa tingin ko okay lang din kung magiging magkakaiba tayo ng bansa, basta maayos ang pamumuhay ng mga tao. Wala naman kasi yan sa laki.
Already watched this movie yesterday. My wife and her sisters (6) watched Vilma Santos movie. According to them parang mas worth it na Kingdom na lang pinanood nila even before I told them how good Kingdom was. Anyway, Vic tried to play comedy at some point pero hardly noticed eh 😂.
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Kayang-kaya ng mga Luzonians maging independent nation. Deserve nilang maging autonomous.
meron kayang english sub?? may ksma po kc aq foreigner.
Mgnda to ppnuorin ko tlga to
May ksama o wala. Nagagalql ako sa direksyon ng sinema at sining ng Pinoy lately. ❤
Buti naman The Kingdom ang napiling title at buti hindi ginawang The Maharlika...
For sure this will not be box office. Di kasi relate ang most pinoys at kung walang extra budget movie lang ni vice ganda ang papanuorin kung they had to choos3. Ang pilipino ayaw magisip kahit may kakayahan. Kung sa 100m na pinoy for sure 20 m lang ang nagiisip and gusto mag isip so sad to say, even if this is a good movie, may mas kikita at mamamayagpag sa takilya. Real talk lang po
kasi pambata yun kay vice
happy holiday to all
May mga country na nabuo Mula sa magkakaibang kingdoms like Italy. Marahil will do it the Italian way para maging one nation.but definitely we will be an Islamic country as Islam is prevailing over the South and conquer from Muslim neighboring kingdom were landing in some parts of Visayas.
Yeah
How ironic na ang pangalan ng Kingdom ay Kalayaan kung meron pa ding caste system.
Just like any monarchy, asian & west, possible na nagevolve in time ang parliament & laws kase parang the story setup e lahat ngevolve into modern influences pero naiwan yung traditional laws.baka more of ceremonial na lng at less hands on at nagdedesisyon ang monarchy, fhwy let people govern through parliament.
possible din na naghiwahiwalay na self governing kingdoms ang Pinas kase yung archipelago napag isa lang naman dahil sa spanish colonization. Magkakaiba culture & traditions.
Example muslims region will tend to have a sharia law as constitution, gaya sa nangyari sa india at Pakistan, naghiwalay ang islamic region & ngtagtayo ng sarili after ibigay ng British monarchy independence.
Maybe if we have regional differences and hindi tayo nasakop ng sino man. We will evolve either into a federal type of government na may revolving monarchy or matitiwalag ang ilang parts ng Mindanao and palawan which means there might be civil war. Sadly we can only be united fully after a civil war kasi iba iba tayo at needed na iisa na ang mamuno sa taas or tatanggapin na ng lahat ang union natin just like the u.s. we can only look sa mga experiences ng ibang bansa bago sila nagkaroon ng national identity na maaring mangyari sa atin. Just like China was united by Emperor Chin and conquered by the Khans, and Japan with the shogunate and the emperor.
What if: Visayas and Mindanao might be part of Indonesia. Luzon might be a country or part of China.
Napanood ko na ang movie at ang ganda. Tama ang sinabing info ni maam Magulang at may plot twists. Bet kong manalong Best actor si Piolo or Vic sa MMFF awards night.
Lahat ay posibilidad lamang.
Ang Colonization ay hindi "end all" or "be all" kung mabuo man o hindi ang isa bansa.
Ang mahalaga ay kun ano uri o quality ng pagkatao ang mga inhabitants dito ngayon.
Sadly, colonization did influence us through religion and education. We barely have a pre colonial identity to speak off. Its more of the spanish and american influences we hold on too.
@geopadilla1455 Exactly. Colonization happened at d time when d culture & peopling of this archipelago is in its infancy stage. Hence, a neo-culture was developed instead. Like a tree that was not allowed to grow before it reach its maturity.
Nasaan ang mga gold? Kasi based sa sinabi ni Pigafetta kahit mga alipin meron ginto na pamana ng mga ninuno nila. Hindi tama yan kung hindi rich sa gold at kung hindi multiple chiefs.
As per Pigafetta, kahit maraming local chiefs, they chose who will lead them to war. Imagine, paano kumalat na may mga dayuhan (team ni Magellan) noon kung hindi maayos ang communication system nila? Paanong nakapaghanda ang grupo ni Lapu-Lapu ng mga patibong? Maganda ang communication ng community noon ng bansa natin kahit na mga pulo at isla tayo.
Gold might possibly be transported to Spain. Maybe Spain sold some to US. Maybe Japanese took some of it. The gold of the Katipunan was implied to be stolen by the gf of Antonio Luna who married a Chinese Cojuangco.
Ano ang halaga ng pagiging Pilipinas & Pilipino kun sa realidad ay wala naman bagay na tunay to be proud of as 1 nation?
Kung ang ngalan ng Pilipinas ay hinango sa 1 Hari na kriminal & walang dangal?
Blah blah edi magreklamo ka sa España
Sa totoo lang, meron namang maipagmamalaki mga Pilipino. For example, iba yung klase ng resilience na kahit magkakasunod na bagyo ang tumama sa bansa, e may mindset na kayang bumangon uli, yung tipong kahit na lumulutang na sa gitna ng baha ang lahat e kaya pang gumawa ng video/reel na comedy pang-social media.
Ang kaso e pag ang isang trait na may positive side sana, naabuso o napaoasobra. Tipong, resilient naman ang Pilipino, kaya wag na natin sikapin na i-improve pa ang current situation, tiisin na lang. Dun nagkakaproblema.
@alquanna Almost all countries hev resilence lalo na yun strong economies.
Oo nga naman no, pasalamat tayo sa mga mananakop natin. Kasi sila yung naging dahilan ng pagkakaisa ng buong arkepilago na magkaroon ng isang layunin natayoy magiging isang nasyon o isang bansa na malaya.
malakas ang Regionalism natin kahit na nasakop pa tayo ng ibang Bansa at "pinag-unite" tayo...kaya sana, baguhin na ng mga namumuno ang Form of Government natin, gawin na lang Federal para sabay-sabay ang pagunlad tapos pantay-pantay ang tingin natin sa isat-isa...unlike sa Setup ngayon...para ang dating NCR lng ang ponakamagaling, maunlad at matatalino...
Mas maganda na ang regionalsm kesa nationalism na ncr lng ang punauunlad at laging batayan ng batas
nakita ko yung trailer. dun pa lang may sablay na. nadinig kong binanggit ni piolo ang word na Diyos. loan word sa kastila yun. dapat panginoon ang sinambit nya. pero interesante padin naman ang pelikula.
Even the Thai language.. they have loan words from the Chinese, khmer, arabic, indian languages (sanskrit & tamil, etc) and english language..
@@HameSe lol off course, English is a Universal Language. at kahit tayong mga pinoy yung pre colonial era natin ay may impluwensya ng Chinese, India at Arab. ang mga title na Sultan at Raja ay Arab at Indian, yung word na Guro ay galing sa Guru ng India at kaya may Curry din tayo. nakakasalamuha at nakaka transaksyon natin ang mga yan. pero ang Espanya ang layo layo satin nyan. nagkaron lang ng Impluwesya satin Dahil Sinakop nila tayo. eh ang istorya nga nito ay Paano Kung Hindi nila tayo nasakop. so pano sila magkakaron ng impluwesya satin kung ganun???
Pwede ring trading with other countries such as Spain or Mexico, pero hindi rin sinakop ang Pinas. Tandaan mo, modern society ang setting so trades with different countries kahit malayo ay posible.
Sometimes these are intentional errors too. Grabe naman maka-perfect.
@@delbee718 lol nagkaron lang tayo ng kalakalan sa espanya nung hawak na nila tayo. nagsimula lang ang Manila Galleon noong 1560s. nabuksan lang ang Ideya na to nung pumunta dito si Magellan, nakita nila Posible pala pero Hindi Mdali. kahit namatay si Magellan at ilang Sablay o Failure ang paglalakbay ng ibang tumangka para sa planong Trading. kundi sa pagpipilit ni Andres De Urdaneta di ito na mangyayari. gain this movie is about What If. What if Hindi Tayo nasakop ng Espanya. mag aral ka ng Kasaysayan ng Lahi at Bayan Mo wag aasa sa Pelikula lang
@@onzkie2671 That's a rather myopic observation. Conquest is not a requirement for a language to evolve. As you said, we were able to acquire loanwords from China, India, and Arabia due to TRADE, so what's stopping Kalayaan from getting linguistic influence from European countries? You have to remember that the only thing changed in this timeline is that we weren't conquered by a foreign power. The movie didn't say anything about the Treaty of Tordesillas not happening. Spain still would've found its way to Kalayaan shores in the 1500s and decided to keep Kalayaan as a trading partner instead of simply a territory to conquer. Fast forward to the present, some Spanish words slip into the cracks and that could easily explain why "diyos" is in the Kalayaan vocabulary. What's "sablay" is you underestimating how a language develops over time.
So parang ang primitive pa rin pala ng pilipinas if we are not colonized. Parang if we put ourselves on that setting di natin kayang mabuhay doon.
TAGALOG KINGDOM...NOT "PHILIPPINES"
Japan was never colonized...the emperor is considered Divine..look where are they now as a society 😊😊😊😊
My brother in Christ, Imperial Japan did war crimes hahahaha, what are you smoking 😅
But after WW2, that quickly changed. The emperor is a ceremonial figure head to accommodate other countries that still have royal families. The US made sure it had influence in a lot of things in Japan.