Hello, I was watching a video of you in Korea and I was able to share it on my Facebook page. Even ordinary people don't buy more than 6 items as a hobby, but I'm grateful to see that overseas TH-camrs reviewed the exact experiences and how to use them, and I'm glad to see Korean archery overseas. I'll look forward to a variety of bow video reviews in the future. 감사합니다 🇰🇷
I'm just loving the light weightness and low gpp of the pmz Korean bow, wish i had started with this, and not the Turkish bow, although, that one is nicer, i am getting more speed and accuracy with the Korean bow, it's even easier to string.
It's so nice Armin dose this for us through the way he describes the shooting experiences with each bow and by seeing the bows action and handling...we can truly get the one that is best for us . Thank you Armin
Armin, look carefully from 7:29 to 7:50. The string is not properly attached on the ears. The bows can get unstrung with your eye in the tip. Like younsaid on 7:50: if you don't know it, don't do it
It would be nice if you made a video with comparison of different types of horse bows: Hungarian, Turkish, Tatar, Korean etc. I'd love to listen about differences and how they affect their performance and shooting experience.
But with your korean bow your Form looked better! Thanks to your Inspiration i am somewhere around 75# pounds. The cheap, White 70# Fiberglas bow they sell in different AliExpress Shops is quite amazing for that.
Yup. It is amazing. It was widely used during the Korea-Japan War of 1592 or the Imjin war and it was chronicled to be faster than normal arrows and even faster and has a longer range than musket bullets. It is also faster to load than muskets and it was by Korean marksmen alongside normal arrows. This is one of the reasons alongside superior military technology and tactics why the Koreans managed to push back and defeat a numerically advantaged Japanese armies during the Korea-Japan War of 1592.
Yeah I'm agree👍 And hmm actually Armin had done a video about that 2 years ago He's using majra (same like tong ah but it's just a different name due to language difference) He's also demonstrated how to use it too. You should watch it 😬👍
Korean bows are shot by pulling the string as far as the length of the arrow. Korean bows are very powerful when pulled to maximum. That's why, when shooting a Korean bow, put a string hook on your thumb and shoot. It is made from wood, horn, plastic, copper, silver, etc.
Korean movie ‘War of the Arrows’, free on TH-cam showes a traditional Korean bow and Aegisal(a kind of arrow), it is known to have the longest range arrow shoot.
Alibow still hasn't responded with the quality issue after the wood piece broke off the limb of my Segye bow, which had me lost some faith on the brand. Also, the limb twist is just not very nice. I have attempted the repair myself, it is shootable but covered in the wrapping (no longer nice and shinny) ...
@@ArminHirmer 🧐 William Hazlitt once wrote, “The mind of a man is like a clock that is always winding down, and requires to be as constantly wound up.” Don’t disparage your intellect, my teacher. Mindfully exercise it as you do throughout your creative pursuits.
Thank you! What about Kaya "Blak K" compare to those one bows? Where you would place it? Maybe you can make same compare but including with the new horse bows you viewing this year? That would be very grate!
i have the segye with the big foam grip in 40lbs and the kaya ktb in 50lbs. pros of segye @40lbs -32 max draw -smooth draw -lightweight -big comfortable handle -rayskin arrowpass -comes with a korean bowsleeve cons of segye -only one color option when you order with big foam grip -stickers are a little cheap for $200 bow. would rather see some whipping -center serving on string is a little on the thin side -they were out of stock of the bow, but didnt mention it on the site, took them a month to get the materials to make the bow pros of kaya ktb -not sure what material they used to cover the limbs, but it seems nicer than the segye, almost feels like leather, thin leather -not as many stickers, instead used whipping -was able to find for only $140 shipped in the USA cons of the kaya ktb -leather arrowpass deteriorated quickly(i ended up buying rayskin leather and adding it to all of my bows that didnt have a rayskin arrowpass) -smaller handle. the handle is leather-wrapped, and bigger than my ottoman bow, but smaller than the segye -no bowsleeve the YMG handle looks great, weather resistant and grippy, decent size, but might effect my way of khatra. if i could email all the korean bow makers my wants they would be 1.) bigger handle (atleast as an option) 2.) include a bowsleeve 3.) more color options
Hello Armin, I don't understand why you said that some bow were out of tiller... for a bow like this with a handle dead center . it's common to have the upper limb weaker.....
I know but bit by that much as shown in the video, some are way off and one should fix that before shooting in my opinion. of course both limbs are different
Nice review. buts, it is not a original treditional korean bow. Original treditional korean bow features: 1. Shape and elasticity, flexiblity : that have [ G ] shape instad of this bows [ { ] shape. and when full drow, it reverse of [ G ] shape. this ones are just [ C ]shape. 2. size: when shame drow weight, more small and right.
My limited understanding prompts me to judge a Korean bow by how it looks at full draw. Both limbs should be uniform and horizontal with minimal radius at the bend. Is there any validity in my criteria?
@@domod4870 아 미안요 저 때문에 많이 쪽팔렸나 봐요 쪽팔리게 할 생각 없었는데 그런데 전 우리나라 활 만능론이야기 하지 않았고 그냥 장인이 만든 각궁에 애기살 써봤으면 좋겠다고 말한것 뿐인데 이게 만능론에 쪽팔림까지 가는 군요 죄송합니다 아 그리고 우리나라 활이 최고가 아니라고 하시는 것을 보면 활에 대해 잘 아시는 것 같은데 본인이 아시는 세계 최고의 활이 뭔지 알려 주실 수 있나요??? 이왕이면 전통 활 기준에서요 현대에서 개량 되어서 만들어진 활 말고
@@domod4870 난 채널 주인이 장인이 만든 각궁에 애기살 써보면 좋겠다고 말한 건데 ㅋㅋㅋ 거기에다 활 만능론 이야기를 먼저 시작한건 본인이라는 건 알고 있죠 ???? 만능론을 이야기 하면서 타박하길래 본인이 생각하는 좋은 활이 무엇이냐고 물어본건데 무슨 초딩 수준의 급발진을 ????? 내가 언제 순위를 매겼다고???? 그냥 나는 본인이 생각하는 좋은 활 이 뭐냐고 물어본거임 괜히 급발진 하지 말고 이러이러해서 나는 이 활이 좋은것 같다 이렇게 이야기하면 되는데 뭔 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 급발진 그만하고 순위매기는 것도 싫다면 그냥 본인이 좋아하는 활을 말하고 그 이유나 좀 들어봅시다 그나저나 우리나라 각궁에 물소 뿔이 재료로 들어가는걸로 아는데 물소 뿔을 구하기가 쉬웠나요?????
@@domod4870 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 예 예 대단한신 분이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅋㅋㅋ 영국이나 몽골 활 재료 예를 주변환경에서 쉽게 구하는것을 기본으로 말을 하셔서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그나저나 만능론 먼저 꺼내신 본인이 좋아하는 활은 그래서 뭐냐고요? 좀 말해 주면 안되나요? 아 그리고 각궁 재료 7개 정도 만드는기간 1년 만들었는데 틀어지면 바로 폐기 대략 이정도는 알고있어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 좀 더 자세히 알고 계신다면 알려주세요 아 그리고 각궁은 연습용 사냥용 전투용 다 별개로 있다는 것 까지는 알고 있습니다
@@돈키호테가된어린왕자 ㅋㅋㅋ 주변한경에는 이웃국가도 포함되는겁니다. 흔히들 지정학적인 환경이라고 하죠ㅋㅋ 히타이트 주변국에 철기문화가 진화했듯이 무역을 통한 재료 수급은 당연한건데요? ㅋㅋ 그리고 내가 위에서 말했죠?? ㅋㅋ 물소뿔하나로만 각궁만드는줄 아냐고. 수요가 딸리니깐 물소 각궁은 고급품으로 만들고 그외에 사슴뿔이나 나무 우리나라 지정에 맞게 여러가지 재료를 쓴다고 분명히 말했는데 그걸 이해를 못쳐하시네? 풉ㅋㅋ 그리고 각궁은 전투용 말고는 잘안썻는데요? ㅋㅋㅋ 비싸기도 하고 수량도 딸려서 국가에서 왠만하면 잘 관리했꾸욬ㅋㅋ 죽궁이나 목궁을 주로 민간에서 연습용 사냥용으로 썻구욬ㅋㅋ 내가 좋아하는 활요? 몽골 각궁인데요? ㅋ풉 뭐 알려줘도 알려낰??
7:21 and 11:34 --- I cringed seeing how the end loops weren't properly seated on the nock, especially watching you shoot a few arrows. Thought the bow would get unstrung and cause an accident. Thank goodness!
That called advanced bow in korea. It shape likes chosen war bow style but made mordern material. If want korean black horned bow Sadly hard to export its vulerable moisture and temperature 🌡. 저건 개량궁이고 현대적 재질을 사용한겁니다. 전통방식으로 만든 활 특히 흑각궁은 온도나 습도에 매우 예민하여 저 아재가 써보기 힘드므로 영상만 잘 시청해주세요
Very cool. Thinking of picking one up simply because of the size and weight compared with the performance, so this was a helpful comparison. Plus why not have a bit of variety?
I heard that Koreans choose bow length according to arrow length which in turn is related to arm length. Some Korean bowyers also seem to sell RH and LH models in Korea, which seem to be tillered a bit sideways. I own a Kaya and and a Forever Carbon. Proper Arrow selection makes a huge difference it seems. I would love to get more infos on choosing the right arrows and bows length from Korean manufacturers, as well as more infos on proper technique.
The answer I've been given more than once on seeking the correct arrow for a bow, (providing your draw weight (poundage), draw length) is to ask the bowyer, maker, or at the very least the seller. Email or phone them. Buy the appropriate arrows with the bow.
for korean bows in general, recommended arrow weight is about 7gpp. save draw lentgh of korean bows seem to correlate with the bow length. 48´ about 31.5´, 50´ about 32-33, 52´about 33.5 - 34.
From what I found out until now is that very soft(proper spined, not too soft!) arrows give very good arrow flight. Checked after tuning with the dynamic spine calculator of 3rivers and this gives the same result. These "proper" spined soft arrows only need a little bit of torque, and give smallest groupings for me. I can shoot very stiff arrows as well, but need a lot more torque, and groups are bigger. Problem with me is arrows in between these extremes, these tend to still bend a lot, hit the riser and give very bad arrow flight. Testing a whole range of different spined arrows would make an interesting video. And of course checking with what korean bowyers do recommend.
Awesome as usual 😁 I've been wondering for some time now how to shoot these bows. I've seen them shot at traditional 140 m, and they always do a lot of side khatra. But with the string stoppers and such narrow limbs, I wonder how does that even work?
The price of gakgung is very high (About 1000 usd based on freddie archery website). Besides, the bow might get damaged during the shipping process due to inconsistent heat and temperature. So hmm, it's very risky to buy gakgung by using export method... And, if I'm not mistaken, it's also really hard to take care of gakgung, you need a specialised box to store it (because it used natural glue on it). If it doesn't be taken care carefully, it will be delaminated. And that bow might only suit south korea temperature, but not for other countries. So hmm, it's very risky to have it. Just be grateful and appreciate what Armin had shared with us :)
Excellent comparison my friend. Of the 12 different bows I own I don't have a Korean bow yet. When the time comes it would be the ymg expensive or not I liked the shape of this one more. Thank you my friend keep em coming!
@@MiaogisTeas yes my friend they have that true Korean look slightly aggressive curves! The host of Korean bows on the market right now seem to have that performance minded look. Not quite mimicking the true hornbows in tiller and curve. Some of the hybrid bows coming out of Indonesia right now have that aggressive slightly more rounded curves. Something about the more squared curves of most laminated bows on the market. There not quite as appealing.
In fact, no one knows how to make gakgung in Korea because there are no production methods or real ones. Therefore, it makes no difference whether it is made abroad or in Korea.
Nope. Where did you get that false information? There are still numerous makers of the traditional gakgung numbering on the hundreds and they cost hundreds to thousands of dollars if you will buy from those masters. The makers are considered a tangible cultural asset so they are assisted by the government. Also, there are specific instructions on how to make the gakgung from historical records and writings of the Korean bowmakers from ancient Korea up until the Joseon dynasty. Those writings are preserved.
Too bad that nowadays the bow that is considered to be korean bow, is actually korean target practice bow, and not the real korean bow used in war. And you eaven see in the movies koreans using this practice bow, cus nobody really makes korean war bow style bows anymore. There is few manufactures that kinda do, but they are not exact shape.
@@ArminHirmer true, but nowadays when they test the korean bows performance they test this practice bow desing, and it doesn't perform like the war bow does, especially with heavy arrows, when compared to other bows, cus this practice bow just isn't designed for that
@@ArminHirmer you will have heavy poundage bow? That will be interesting, you make nice videos. Btw i taught you cannot have higher poundage than 60 in malta?
I think they were Wae Pirates that raided until Joseon eventually occupied Tsushima to stop the pirates from attacking. Eventually, the shogunate and the lords of Tsushima signed a treaty with Korea to stop the pirates and so that Korea will stop the occupation of the Tsushima islands. Korea throughout its history managed to defeat numerically advantaged enemies due to its mastery of military technology and the skills of the Koreans with the bow and arrow.
Hallo, Du machst super Videos, aber früher hast Du diese in deutscher Sprache gemacht. Ich spreche perfekt Ungarisch (dort lebe ich), Deutsch und Russisch. Englich kann ich leider nicht. Deine Bilder und was Du vorführst, da kann ich viel entnehmen, aber es währe doch besser wenn ich alles verstehen könnte. Ich bin 36 Jahre leidenschaftlicher traditioneller Bogenschütze und lerne immer gern dazu. Ich wünsche Dir einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr.
@@ArminHirmer Hallo Armin, ich danke Dir. Ich bin "manischer" Bogenschütze, kenne den Henry Bodnik und so fast alle ungarischen Bogenbauer. (Ich könnte auch gute Beziehungen für Dich zu guten Bogenbauern in Ungarn arangieren.)
@@ArminHirmer Németh Péter, Gelencsér László, Szalóky István. Die sind für meine Begriffe die erfolgreichsten Bogenbauer für laminierte traditionelle Bögen in Ungarn und wohnen in meiner Nähe.
I think one day you'll have one of the authentic 1k USD horn bows to review. I hope to see it before I get my own, seeing a review might ease the horrible guilt.
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Hello, I was watching a video of you in Korea and I was able to share it on my Facebook page. Even ordinary people don't buy more than 6 items as a hobby, but I'm grateful to see that overseas TH-camrs reviewed the exact experiences and how to use them, and I'm glad to see Korean archery overseas. I'll look forward to a variety of bow video reviews in the future. 감사합니다 🇰🇷
I'm just loving the light weightness and low gpp of the pmz Korean bow, wish i had started with this, and not the Turkish bow, although, that one is nicer, i am getting more speed and accuracy with the Korean bow, it's even easier to string.
It's so nice Armin dose this for us through the way he describes the shooting experiences with each bow and by seeing the bows action and handling...we can truly get the one that is best for us . Thank you Armin
This is the exact video I was looking for as I am currently searching for a korean bow!
Armin, look carefully from 7:29 to 7:50. The string is not properly attached on the ears. The bows can get unstrung with your eye in the tip. Like younsaid on 7:50: if you don't know it, don't do it
Good stuff as always Armin! Nobody else produces this kind of content. :)
Thank you for wonderful review.
It would be nice if you made a video with comparison of different types of horse bows: Hungarian, Turkish, Tatar, Korean etc. I'd love to listen about differences and how they affect their performance and shooting experience.
The Monarq it is ! will order a 53 inch one ! Can t wait ! THX Armin
I love my 100lb daylite korean bow would love to try the other ones but not sure if they make it in this draw weight
You shoot often? I'd love to make it up there. I'm at 60-65 ibs. A work in progress
@@Daylon91 nice man you'll get there. the korean bow not often cuz for training i usually use my fibreglass bows
But with your korean bow your Form looked better! Thanks to your Inspiration i am somewhere around 75# pounds. The cheap, White 70# Fiberglas bow they sell in different AliExpress Shops is quite amazing for that.
freddy archery now makes a strong draw version of the YMG with up to 95# @31.
@@fabianastor5297 do you know the price
각궁은 줄을 안걸었을때 거의 원에 가깝습니다...
It looks like Circle when Gakgung without bowstring, Gakgung has strong elasticity and resilience to the reversed direction.
저도 그렇게 봤어요
내가 알기로도 한국 각궁은 작은 크기에 거의 원형에 가까운 형태로 알고 있음.
그건 전통제조방법으로 만든 각궁이고 저건 보급형 개량궁입니다.
현대의 소재를 적용해 만든 개량궁은 전통각궁처럼 심하게 오그라들지 않아요.
저건 형태가 한국 전통활보다는 몽고전통활에 가깝네요
You will be more surprised to know Agisal, the Korean translation of Baby Arrow.
perfectly right! the agisal is perfectly weapons of steel armer cheast.this is a like modern bullet.
@@정주연-z1s piercing arrows.
Yup. It is amazing. It was widely used during the Korea-Japan War of 1592 or the Imjin war and it was chronicled to be faster than normal arrows and even faster and has a longer range than musket bullets. It is also faster to load than muskets and it was by Korean marksmen alongside normal arrows. This is one of the reasons alongside superior military technology and tactics why the Koreans managed to push back and defeat a numerically advantaged Japanese armies during the Korea-Japan War of 1592.
Yeah I'm agree👍
And hmm actually Armin had done a video about that 2 years ago
He's using majra (same like tong ah but it's just a different name due to language difference)
He's also demonstrated how to use it too. You should watch it 😬👍
You should try "Gakgung" the original Korean traditional bow made by Korean bow master
Yeah it is made of cow horn
And probably costs a life savings
I think the real Korean bow made with buffalo horns cost around US$7,000.
어교(천연접착제)로 인해 습기와 더위에 약해서 관리가 힘들어요
Korean bows are shot by pulling the string as far as the length of the arrow.
Korean bows are very powerful when pulled to maximum.
That's why, when shooting a Korean bow, put a string hook on your thumb and shoot.
It is made from wood, horn, plastic, copper, silver, etc.
Great comparison video Armin! really enjoyed it. and I also notice an improvement of the image quality. very good.
Korean movie ‘War of the Arrows’, free on TH-cam showes a traditional Korean bow and Aegisal(a kind of arrow), it is known to have the longest range arrow shoot.
Outstanding review!
@Armin Hirmer what is the mystical spell you are murmuring when flexing the bow at 10:00? I think we should all know it
🤣🤣
와~ 우리 할아버지께서 동네서 열리는 각궁대회 나가고 했었는데 ㅎㅎ 할어버지 돌아가시고
이사가며 처분한거 같은데 그때 관심이라도 가졌으면 어땟을까 하는 미련이 있네요
동그랗게 말아서 신문으로 싸서 벽에 걸어놨었던 기억이 아직도 생생하네요
Alibow still hasn't responded with the quality issue after the wood piece broke off the limb of my Segye bow, which had me lost some faith on the brand. Also, the limb twist is just not very nice. I have attempted the repair myself, it is shootable but covered in the wrapping (no longer nice and shinny) ...
seems like alibow lacks premium products for Korean style bows, did they respond as yet?
와 하나 사고싶다. 활 너무 멋지네요
How does it compare with kaya korean bow?
lovely. thank you as always armin
11:21 Look at those bows! I admire your success at living a passion professionally.
I do this as I am too stupid for everything else :)
@@ArminHirmer 🧐 William Hazlitt once wrote, “The mind of a man is like a clock that is always winding down, and requires to be as constantly wound up.” Don’t disparage your intellect, my teacher. Mindfully exercise it as you do throughout your creative pursuits.
Thank you! What about Kaya "Blak K" compare to those one bows? Where you would place it?
Maybe you can make same compare but including with the new horse bows you viewing this year?
That would be very grate!
Great comparison. YMG and Alibow looks best.
Love my YMG. Not much else to say.
i have the segye with the big foam grip in 40lbs and the kaya ktb in 50lbs.
pros of segye @40lbs
-32 max draw
-smooth draw
-lightweight
-big comfortable handle
-rayskin arrowpass
-comes with a korean bowsleeve
cons of segye
-only one color option when you order with big foam grip
-stickers are a little cheap for $200 bow. would rather see some whipping
-center serving on string is a little on the thin side
-they were out of stock of the bow, but didnt mention it on the site, took them a month to get the materials to make the bow
pros of kaya ktb
-not sure what material they used to cover the limbs, but it seems nicer than the segye, almost feels like leather, thin leather
-not as many stickers, instead used whipping
-was able to find for only $140 shipped in the USA
cons of the kaya ktb
-leather arrowpass deteriorated quickly(i ended up buying rayskin leather and adding it to all of my bows that didnt have a rayskin arrowpass)
-smaller handle. the handle is leather-wrapped, and bigger than my ottoman bow, but smaller than the segye
-no bowsleeve
the YMG handle looks great, weather resistant and grippy, decent size, but might effect my way of khatra. if i could email all the korean bow makers my wants they would be
1.) bigger handle (atleast as an option)
2.) include a bowsleeve
3.) more color options
Where did you find kaya for 140 shipped? I need another!
Hello Armin, I don't understand why you said that some bow were out of tiller... for a bow like this with a handle dead center . it's common to have the upper limb weaker.....
as the limbs haven 't the same weight ,each curvature is not the same
I know but bit by that much as shown in the video, some are way off and one should fix that before shooting in my opinion. of course both limbs are different
Nice review.
buts, it is not a original treditional korean bow.
Original treditional korean bow features:
1. Shape and elasticity, flexiblity : that have [ G ] shape instad of this bows [ { ] shape. and when full drow, it reverse of [ G ] shape. this ones are just [ C ]shape.
2. size: when shame drow weight, more small and right.
My limited understanding prompts me to judge a Korean bow by how it looks at full draw. Both limbs should be uniform and horizontal with minimal radius at the bend.
Is there any validity in my criteria?
hi! did you try Korean Pyun-jeon archery(Baby Arrow)? please try...
Ymc sounds is another level
Koreans bows they have their performance, But I would go for Alibow. Thank you
👍👍👍👌👌👌
Hi Armin, majesty vs ymg? Which one better as both marketed as premium bow on company website.
I love my YMG ;)
Armin you shoot with passion✌😀 It doesn't matter what Bow you have in your hands you shoot🏹 with elegance. thanks for all your reviews.😃
아 이 아재가 장인이 만든 활과 화살 애기살과 통아까지 써 봐야 할 텐데
@@domod4870 아 미안요 저 때문에 많이 쪽팔렸나 봐요 쪽팔리게 할 생각 없었는데
그런데 전 우리나라 활 만능론이야기 하지 않았고 그냥 장인이 만든 각궁에 애기살 써봤으면 좋겠다고 말한것 뿐인데 이게 만능론에 쪽팔림까지 가는 군요
죄송합니다
아 그리고 우리나라 활이 최고가 아니라고 하시는 것을 보면 활에 대해 잘 아시는 것 같은데 본인이 아시는 세계 최고의 활이 뭔지 알려 주실 수 있나요???
이왕이면 전통 활 기준에서요 현대에서 개량 되어서 만들어진 활 말고
@@domod4870 난 채널 주인이 장인이 만든 각궁에 애기살 써보면 좋겠다고 말한 건데 ㅋㅋㅋ
거기에다 활 만능론 이야기를 먼저 시작한건 본인이라는 건 알고 있죠 ????
만능론을 이야기 하면서 타박하길래
본인이 생각하는 좋은 활이 무엇이냐고 물어본건데 무슨 초딩 수준의 급발진을 ?????
내가 언제 순위를 매겼다고????
그냥 나는 본인이 생각하는 좋은 활 이 뭐냐고 물어본거임 괜히 급발진 하지 말고
이러이러해서 나는 이 활이 좋은것 같다 이렇게 이야기하면 되는데 뭔 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
급발진 그만하고 순위매기는 것도 싫다면
그냥 본인이 좋아하는 활을 말하고 그 이유나 좀 들어봅시다
그나저나 우리나라 각궁에 물소 뿔이 재료로 들어가는걸로 아는데 물소 뿔을 구하기가 쉬웠나요?????
@@돈키호테가된어린왕자 우리나라는 중국이랑 무역때문에 물소뿔 구하기가 존나게 쉬웠는데요?? 물소뿔 원산지인 북방지역이랑 가까웠고 중국 일본이랑 무역하면서 물소뿔 구하기가 상당히 쉬웠는데여?? 알고 지껄이시죠???ㅋ? 다만 수요에 비해서 공급량이 딸려서 모든 각궁을 물소뿔로 안만들었는데요?? 각궁의 재료가 물소뿔 하나인줄 아시나?? ㅋㅋㅋ니가 할말 니가 몰라요? 세계최고의 활이 뭐냐고 1위를 정해놓는 묻는 어이없는 질문에 논리잇게 대답해준걸로 아는데 그걸 모르네 ㅋㅋㅋ 초등학생이세요???? 제발 뭘 말하려면 자기 주장하는바는 끝까지 지키시죠??ㅋ?
@@domod4870 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 예 예 대단한신 분이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅋㅋㅋ
영국이나 몽골 활 재료 예를 주변환경에서 쉽게 구하는것을 기본으로 말을 하셔서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그나저나 만능론 먼저 꺼내신 본인이 좋아하는 활은 그래서 뭐냐고요? 좀 말해 주면 안되나요?
아 그리고 각궁 재료 7개 정도 만드는기간 1년 만들었는데 틀어지면 바로 폐기 대략 이정도는 알고있어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
좀 더 자세히 알고 계신다면 알려주세요
아 그리고 각궁은 연습용 사냥용 전투용 다 별개로 있다는 것 까지는 알고 있습니다
@@돈키호테가된어린왕자 ㅋㅋㅋ 주변한경에는 이웃국가도 포함되는겁니다. 흔히들 지정학적인 환경이라고 하죠ㅋㅋ 히타이트 주변국에 철기문화가 진화했듯이 무역을 통한 재료 수급은 당연한건데요? ㅋㅋ 그리고 내가 위에서 말했죠?? ㅋㅋ 물소뿔하나로만 각궁만드는줄 아냐고. 수요가 딸리니깐 물소 각궁은 고급품으로 만들고 그외에 사슴뿔이나 나무 우리나라 지정에 맞게 여러가지 재료를 쓴다고 분명히 말했는데 그걸 이해를 못쳐하시네? 풉ㅋㅋ 그리고 각궁은 전투용 말고는 잘안썻는데요? ㅋㅋㅋ 비싸기도 하고 수량도 딸려서 국가에서 왠만하면 잘 관리했꾸욬ㅋㅋ 죽궁이나 목궁을 주로 민간에서 연습용 사냥용으로 썻구욬ㅋㅋ 내가 좋아하는 활요? 몽골 각궁인데요? ㅋ풉 뭐 알려줘도 알려낰??
I like how you compare and rate them
I think the quote, "This one, performance-wise, eehehehehe," says it all!
at 15:11 was the string on upside down?
Yes happens
7:21 and 11:34 --- I cringed seeing how the end loops weren't properly seated on the nock, especially watching you shoot a few arrows. Thought the bow would get unstrung and cause an accident. Thank goodness!
Me too when I saw it later hahaha
That called advanced bow in korea.
It shape likes chosen war bow style but made mordern material.
If want korean black horned bow
Sadly hard to export its vulerable moisture and temperature 🌡.
저건 개량궁이고 현대적 재질을 사용한겁니다. 전통방식으로 만든 활 특히 흑각궁은 온도나 습도에 매우 예민하여 저 아재가 써보기 힘드므로
영상만 잘 시청해주세요
편전에대해리뷰해주세요
Very cool. Thinking of picking one up simply because of the size and weight compared with the performance, so this was a helpful comparison. Plus why not have a bit of variety?
Looking forward to buy a BOW from Daylite 😊😊👍👍... According , to you which one should I go 🤔🤔🤔...
Simply depends in your budget
@@ArminHirmer budget 🤔🤔... Iam looking forward to go with Monarq ... It's premium and budget friendly too 😊😊...
good review. thanks
I heard that Koreans choose bow length according to arrow length which in turn is related to arm length. Some Korean bowyers also seem to sell RH and LH models in Korea, which seem to be tillered a bit sideways. I own a Kaya and and a Forever Carbon. Proper Arrow selection makes a huge difference it seems. I would love to get more infos on choosing the right arrows and bows length from Korean manufacturers, as well as more infos on proper technique.
The answer I've been given more than once on seeking the correct arrow for a bow, (providing your draw weight (poundage), draw length) is to ask the bowyer, maker, or at the very least the seller. Email or phone them. Buy the appropriate arrows with the bow.
for korean bows in general, recommended arrow weight is about 7gpp. save draw lentgh of korean bows seem to correlate with the bow length. 48´ about 31.5´, 50´ about 32-33, 52´about 33.5 - 34.
From what I found out until now is that very soft(proper spined, not too soft!) arrows give very good arrow flight. Checked after tuning with the dynamic spine calculator of 3rivers and this gives the same result. These "proper" spined soft arrows only need a little bit of torque, and give smallest groupings for me. I can shoot very stiff arrows as well, but need a lot more torque, and groups are bigger. Problem with me is arrows in between these extremes, these tend to still bend a lot, hit the riser and give very bad arrow flight. Testing a whole range of different spined arrows would make an interesting video. And of course checking with what korean bowyers do recommend.
Just go away,,those bows are beautiful and my addiction is kicking in...I love ❤️ Bows
내 마음이 평온해짐
Awesome as usual 😁
I've been wondering for some time now how to shoot these bows. I've seen them shot at traditional 140 m, and they always do a lot of side khatra. But with the string stoppers and such narrow limbs, I wonder how does that even work?
they are all quite good in torque resistance
I also find Them stiff and sturdy. Just a bit Harder to shoot accurately. I guess because of the narrow limbs, Just one Inch wide
@@rolfbaumann7585 They are interesting bows for sure 😁
Between nomad (have many user) and kaya wind fighter... I prefer kaya wind figter
how far can the arrows shoot ?
For sure 145m
Are there Korean bows that have draw lenght up to 34 inch?
yes almost every 53" long bow is supposed to do 34" which I think is always the utmost limit of the bow, but it is written that they can
I can confirm that 53" bows can easily draw atleast 34".
What materials are they made from?
wood, fiberglass, carbon
I am trying to figure out the best bow...the monarq and the alibow...gah! Both are so beautiful. Its like I want it all!
Me too
if you use KKAKJI at your right thumb you could enjoy more performance....
And the Monarq is the only one that can be made in 70#-95# . I have a 95# and it is a monster.
The ymg also
beautiful bow
Love a good korean bow
Cool
한국활 중에 애기살. 편전 도 찾아보세요
Unfortunately this is not traditional korea bow. Just reform? I want to see you a real gakung.
The price of gakgung is very high (About 1000 usd based on freddie archery website). Besides, the bow might get damaged during the shipping process due to inconsistent heat and temperature. So hmm, it's very risky to buy gakgung by using export method...
And, if I'm not mistaken, it's also really hard to take care of gakgung, you need a specialised box to store it (because it used natural glue on it). If it doesn't be taken care carefully, it will be delaminated. And that bow might only suit south korea temperature, but not for other countries.
So hmm, it's very risky to have it. Just be grateful and appreciate what Armin had shared with us :)
Make a video on Kaya black cat
when somebody is sending me one, I will >)
Excellent comparison my friend. Of the 12 different bows I own I don't have a Korean bow yet. When the time comes it would be the ymg expensive or not I liked the shape of this one more. Thank you my friend keep em coming!
Yes, the YMG and Alibow versions were quite attractive.
@@MiaogisTeas yes my friend they have that true Korean look slightly aggressive curves! The host of Korean bows on the market right now seem to have that performance minded look. Not quite mimicking the true hornbows in tiller and curve. Some of the hybrid bows coming out of Indonesia right now have that aggressive slightly more rounded curves. Something about the more squared curves of most laminated bows on the market. There not quite as appealing.
Cool.. next manchu-mongol-tibetan (long ear contact siyah) bow please..
I’m making a review on an alibow Manchu bow
'Dolmen' is 'dolmen' in Korean.
Nice
In fact, no one knows how to make gakgung in Korea because there are no production methods or real ones.
Therefore, it makes no difference whether it is made abroad or in Korea.
Nope. Where did you get that false information? There are still numerous makers of the traditional gakgung numbering on the hundreds and they cost hundreds to thousands of dollars if you will buy from those masters. The makers are considered a tangible cultural asset so they are assisted by the government. Also, there are specific instructions on how to make the gakgung from historical records and writings of the Korean bowmakers from ancient Korea up until the Joseon dynasty. Those writings are preserved.
Like the ali bow.
What a cool place to learn archery. And I am watching this instead of US 2020 election. Thumbs UP
조선초에 류큐의 물소 뿔을 수입해서 활을 만들기도 했죠
물소 자생하기 어려운 환경이다보니 물소뿔은 대부분 중국같은 외국에서 수입했죠.
@@양념된고기조선에서 물소를 수입해서 키우기도 했고 조선 소랑 교배도 시켰었죠
My Kaya Black Cat 46-60 is 260 fps fast, Speedshot 3 Arrows in 2.08 . No Words about KAYA. Thats a shame!
Send him one to test :) A black k in 40# 50“ .
You won’t get any better advertisement on TH-cam .
@@rogm84 no thanks. i sell enuff Bows in my Country. but if you ignore the best Korean Bow then i have to mentioned it.
loved the comparison, and thank you for the video Master.
Too bad that nowadays the bow that is considered to be korean bow, is actually korean target practice bow, and not the real korean bow used in war. And you eaven see in the movies koreans using this practice bow, cus nobody really makes korean war bow style bows anymore. There is few manufactures that kinda do, but they are not exact shape.
And still it is a Korean bow, of course they had different designs for different purposes
@@ArminHirmer true, but nowadays when they test the korean bows performance they test this practice bow desing, and it doesn't perform like the war bow does, especially with heavy arrows, when compared to other bows, cus this practice bow just isn't designed for that
I know. Not many build war bows and they need to have high poundage and I max out at 60 hahaha. But soon I will have one here
@@ArminHirmer you will have heavy poundage bow? That will be interesting, you make nice videos. Btw i taught you cannot have higher poundage than 60 in malta?
Just war bow design, but not too high poundage for me :)
He speaks of a Korean traditional bow, but the world is the best in the world.
That bow is not a traditional Korean compound bow
전통 각궁 아닌듯 합니다
전통 각궁은 시위 않걸렸으때 거의 원형 입니다
I guess you mean composite? Of course it is not as it is not made of horn, sinew and wood. And nobody claimed that it is :)
@@ArminHirmer After the invasion of Japan, the tradition of bows other than each palace was cut off.
Korean bow means gakgung
Good morning Sir i am from sri lanka. Wiche wood better make this one
Korean composite bow : it shows story of revoltion Korean peninsula
Japanese looters said Chinese spears, Korean bows and Japanese muskets were the best. (芝峰類說, 1614)
I think they were Wae Pirates that raided until Joseon eventually occupied Tsushima to stop the pirates from attacking. Eventually, the shogunate and the lords of Tsushima signed a treaty with Korea to stop the pirates and so that Korea will stop the occupation of the Tsushima islands. Korea throughout its history managed to defeat numerically advantaged enemies due to its mastery of military technology and the skills of the Koreans with the bow and arrow.
Yo! Black Fkash string is wrong side up! 😂
shit so good this is it.
maraketh bow
감사합니다^^
😊👍
Hallo, Du machst super Videos, aber früher hast Du diese in deutscher Sprache gemacht. Ich spreche perfekt Ungarisch (dort lebe ich), Deutsch und Russisch. Englich kann ich leider nicht. Deine Bilder und was Du vorführst, da kann ich viel entnehmen, aber es währe doch besser wenn ich alles verstehen könnte. Ich bin 36 Jahre leidenschaftlicher traditioneller Bogenschütze und lerne immer gern dazu. Ich wünsche Dir einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr.
Hallo. Ich habe nur 2 oder 3 Videos auf deutsch gemacht. Zu wenig Interesse. Mal sehen was sich machen lässt :) danke
@@ArminHirmer Hallo Armin, ich danke Dir. Ich bin "manischer" Bogenschütze, kenne den Henry Bodnik und so fast alle ungarischen Bogenbauer. (Ich könnte auch gute Beziehungen für Dich zu guten Bogenbauern in Ungarn arangieren.)
@@AlexHorsch solang ich die Reviews auf englisch machen kann hahaha. Welche Bogenbauer hast Du denn?
@@ArminHirmer Németh Péter, Gelencsér László, Szalóky István. Die sind für meine Begriffe die erfolgreichsten Bogenbauer für laminierte traditionelle Bögen in Ungarn und wohnen in meiner Nähe.
국궁이 저런 모습이라구요? 저건 진정한 국궁이 아닙니다
Maybe I start w/ the Phoenix and get one of each over time.
이 아저씨 한국 활에 꽂히셨네요ㅋㅋ
I think one day you'll have one of the authentic 1k USD horn bows to review. I hope to see it before I get my own, seeing a review might ease the horrible guilt.
I know Koreans are the best bow in the world
국궁 보급화를 위해 제작한 카본같은 현대소재 적용한 개량궁이기때문에 전통각궁처럼 시위안걸었늘때 유지되는 모양이 틀립니다. 모양틀리다고 국궁아니라고 하는건 쫌...
아쉽네요~ 한국의 명장이 만든 각궁은 원형이나 하트에 가깝다
그리고 한국에는 비밀병기 "통아" (편전-애기살)이라는 활도 있다.
아 한국인은 활보단 총이라고~
원딜이지 ㅋ
I think all of these are outmatched by the kaya black cat @46", 60lb. Reccorded top fps is at 260.
always a matter of gpp of the arrow
At 6.4 gpp
이건 한국 전통 각궁이 아니예요.ㅎㅎ
바람ㅈ을 가르는 한국활
🥰👍💯
Dae~han~Min~Guk~ Clap Clap Clap Clap
Korean bow?
No, korean combat bow!
Since AD500
Looks like but not.
This bows are not Korean traditional bows
We know that :) and still they are Korean bows