Lisa undeniably loved Michael much more than Debbie did, she didn’t want to ever get into a custody battle with him: she had to make sure everything’s safe, secure - she’s more mature and responsible!
Yep MJ wound up with both children in his custody and the Mom out of the picture. He would have eventually fought to keep the kids from Lisa. She had that in the back of her mind.. the gut is never wrong.
Michael looked so happy when he was with Lisa!!! BIG SMILES!!! but with Debbie he just didn't have that love in his eyes! I'm sure he cared about her but he LOVED Lisa with his heart & Lisa loved him right back!! GREAT VIDEO!!❣❣
Michael was never over Lisa. He married Debbie Rowe just because he wanted to have children but he never loved her the way he loved Lisa. It's always been clear to me. On the other hand I understood Lisa's reasons. She loved him so deeply that she wanted to be sure it was the right time. Michael didn't understand that and their marriage torn to pieces. But they loved each other undeniably.
Yeah but it wasn't Michael's fault either, they had previously agreed about it. They both had their reasons but it was meant to be this way. U can't blame either of them. At least they are not bitter about each other. I once saw them together in a dream, few weeks after Lisa died.
Look at the pix of Lisa Marie and MJ you can see how much they loved each other. Ironic how she wanted to make sure the marriage was on solid ground b/c she never wanted to be in a custody battle with him yet she was in a 6 yr one with last ex-hubby when she died. You could just see how much they loved each other, if not for good old Debbie.
I will say I always found it funny how during this time period both Michael & Lisa didn’t care ab the media, or Debbie, or anything else 😭they spent more time together after their divorce than when married
Debbie undoubtedly knew and understood that their relationship was a business relationship. Debbie admitted in an interview that Michael still loved Lisa while she was married to him. MJ publicly flaunted Debbie for show. He couldn't have it looking like he paid her to be a surrogate. Even though that's exactly what she was. Debbie calls the children "gifts" from her to Michael because she loved him. But he paid her 8 million dollars for those gifts. 😒 I truly believe Michael thought he and Lisa would be together after the Prince and Paris were born. That she would adopt them and eventually they'd have biological children when she was ready. The whole Debbie thing wasn't right, but I honestly don't think Michael could see it that way. To him Debbie Rowe was a means to an end. He could have kids immediately and still be with Lisa. I don't think he counted on Lisa choosing to walk away completely. It's really sad when you think about it because there was obviously so much love between the two of them.
@@kaleychase1846 Um no, Michael never wanted to be with Lisa again.. at least not immediately after divorce. She was still hung up over Danny while married to him and MJ did not trust her anymore. She played games with him on many things like having kids, Danny and Divorce. She broke his trust. He loved her, he loved the kids especially Riley but he did not ever trust Lisa Marie with his heart again, even though he continued to love her in his heart and mind.
Apparently she wrote that song many years before. Likely when she was still feeling incredibly hurt. She really let her suppressed feelings out after he passed and I am certain that her constant heartache from grief was part of her early demise. Too much pain.
Honestly I have a lot of thoughts about this entire situation and I kind of hold it against Michael because he had an opportunity for a normal life with a woman who still very much sits well with his stature but he chose his path with Debbie she wanted to have an relationship with him and as Lisa said had a crush on him she thought having his kids might make him want her but he used her as a surrogate, now her saying they deserved to be together concludes for a long of people that he indeed loved lisa and pinned for her she was never at fault to have a safe environment she already had 2 she knew what their baby would be in the world the moment it is born it’s freaking mj son and Elvis grandchild that’s itself a lot i think he got stubborn and like a child stormed onto his own home ,do think realised it later what he had done and it was too late she had decided to move on I also believe he didn’t want to remarry because their relationship after divorce was too convient for him and she got insecure sad story 😢 but Debbie really sabotaged their relationship and i think now at her age it’s the guilt which is talking
The song “Idiot” is also about her being very angry with MJ about Debbie.. she says he had the fine wine (Lisa) but he’s better off with Bud light (Debbie)
@ObsessiveNostalgia Lisa said that but it's obvious that the song was about Michael. The lyrics are a dead giveaway. She was hurt and angry with him because of the way their relationship ended.
@@kaleychase1846 I think so too “Did you settle your mediocre mind, you like dancing to the white trash twist”.. she’s calling debbie mediocre white trash & michael’s mind mediocre for choosing Debbie over her. She tells his future girlfriends not to call her for referral coz she has nothing good to say and she predicts he will drive them all nuts & they will end up hating him too just like her.
@@globalcitizenn It's not about Michael. She said she hates this person to this day and she meant every word she was singing (it was 2003). Not every song is
Yeah it's hard I get mad at Debbie sometimes think what a terrible thing to do. She was thinking about Michael probably herself. No one ever thought about lisa. I'm not sure why not cage not Jackson not her mom. Lisa had alot at stake. But I do know svsviage from scientology had alit to do w breaking them up n pushed lisa into divorcing m Jackson after hearing Jackson management was trying to poison Jackson marriage too. So sad billions of money w Jackson n millions prestige face w liss. Lisa had 2 lids but sadly w danny a stology man. Lisa hated s t ology honestly she woke up her ROITS WASNT HER MOM EVER. NOT S T OOOGY N NOT SHAKED UP NEING A S T OLOGY HOUSE WIFE. LISA WAS BORN TO BE A PRINCESD ROYALTY OF THE KING OF MUSIC. ALWAYS. ITS IN HER BLOOD. ELVIS DNA SPERM VREATED LISA. NOT PERSCILLA THOUGH THATS HER MOM. LISA WAS BORN TO UNITE CONNECT N MARRY JACKSON BUT HONESTLY HAD SHE BEEN MARRIED TO HIM SHE WOULD INHERIT JACKSON MONEY PROBABLY HAVE A KID W HIM. BUT HONESTLY IN A WEIRD WAY DEBBIE SAVED HER FROM SEEING HIM DIE. THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY TRAGIC TO LISA TO BE MARRIED TO JACKSON N AEE HIM DIE BUT ISNT IT INTERESTING DRS GAVE HER OPIODS I THINK S T OLOGY HAD ALOT TO DO W HER DEATH PERSCILLA IS VERY CLOSE TO LOCKWOID WHAT A MESS. ITS SAID AT LISA FUNERAL LOCKWOOD WASNT ALLOWED BUT PERSCILLA......AGAIN. DEFIED LISA WUSHES. DEBBIE SHOULD HAD STAYED OUT OF IT. PEOPLE JUST DONT KNOW BOUNDARIES . IT BROKE LISA HEART N RUINED HER TRUST W JACKSON. LUSA WENT TO BAT FOR JACKSON N THIS IS THE REWARD SUCKS. MAKES ME MAD. LISA WAS THE ONLY ONE LOOKED PAST HIS FACE N SAW HIM LOVED HIM WANTED NOTHING. BUT JACKSON LATER ON STATED HE COULDNT STAND LISA SAVING HIM. JACKSON CHOOSE THE VAMPIRES N KIDS INSTEAD OF MARRIAGE TO LISA. YEAH ID BE HURT TOO LOVE LISA LOVE HER PERSONALITY. MUSIC. SHE WENT TYRU DO MUCHVW S T OLOGY USING HER. HER MOM FAULT N PERSCILLA NEEDS TO REPENT APOLOGIZE IT SCREWED LISA UP SO BADLY. CONTROLLING LISA N TORMENTING HER IN SO MSNY WAYS THEY WERE HER FAKE FAMIKY N FRIEND. TILL AFTER JACKSON SHE STARTED TO SEE TRUTH HOW THEY WERE USING HER KYING TO HER TO SIGN JACKSON UP. BUT LISA WASNT LIKE THAT AT ALL. LATER SHE LEFT THEM N ADTER SEEING SEIGEL HER MOM WASTE HER MONEY USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE SHE BROKE IT OFF FROM ALL. TOO BAD LOCKWOOD WAS A MONEY GRABBER TOO. EVERYONE WANTED LISA GOLDEN EGGS FOR NOTAROETY POOR LUSA SHE BE OFF MARRYUNG A MEMPHIS MAN THEN ALK THESE LET DOWNS. SO SAD WHAT BEN N RILEY WENT THRU. NONE OF THIS IS LISA FAULT. REALLY LIKE TO JUSTICE N VINDICATION FOR HER.
Scientology and Priscilla have a lot to do with their breakup. Priscilla put Lisa in Scientology soon after her father's death.She was forced to do obedience therapy and purity roundowns since she was a kid. It sounds like child abuse and torture. Priscilla was no better than Michael's father.
@@ObsessiveNostalgia Debbie KNEW she broke Michael & Lisa up!! I believe she didn't give a care if she SABATOGED their marriage as long as she got her hooks into him!! She thought he would love her like he loved Lisa .. WRONG!! Now that she's old she has ALOT of regrets!! ❣❣
That's not right having a child with Debbie while he's still married to Lisa Marie.was that really true love on his part,I believe she was very happy after she stopped talking to him.she was to beautiful.
MJ LA TRAICIONO POR DESPECHO. COMO ELLA NO QUIZO DARLE HIKO MUY BIEN POR LISA. Y POR ESO ELLA CUANDO LA LLAMO EN EL 2005 ELLA LE DIJO ME ES INDIFERENTE.
LISA MARII WAR MIT MICHAEL IST MIT MICHAEL UND BLEIBT IN HIMMEL MIT MICHAEL FUR EWIGKEIT❤ SO SIND REGEL BEIM GOTT. SO IST DIE WAHRE LIEBE. FUR EWIGKEIT❤❤❤❤❤
Con todo l9 que leído y visto creo que si. A Michael solo le interesaba su carrera, su fama. Su dinero y los niños. Me alegro que Lisa no le hiciera caso en el 2005 cuando la llamo.
Oh. My. Gosh! Lisa!!! You did love him... So much!!!
Gosh i love this so much. As much as i adore Michael... I always understood Lisa's choices. I hope they're together again ❤️
Lisa undeniably loved Michael much more than Debbie did, she didn’t want to ever get into a custody battle with him: she had to make sure everything’s safe, secure - she’s more mature and responsible!
Yep MJ wound up with both children in his custody and the Mom out of the picture. He would have eventually fought to keep the kids from Lisa. She had that in the back of her mind.. the gut is never wrong.
Michael looked so happy when he was with Lisa!!! BIG SMILES!!! but with Debbie he just didn't have that love in his eyes! I'm sure he cared about her but he LOVED Lisa with his heart & Lisa loved him right back!! GREAT VIDEO!!❣❣
The facial expressions of Lisa while singing. 😂😂😂😂 Man, I love her. And she does look beautiful.
BTW, you edtis are amazing.
She was sooooo beautiful. Her voice was amazing too.
I always loved how Lisa expressed herself through her songs, most of them dedicated to Michael.. They deserved more, they loved each other so much
Michael was never over Lisa. He married Debbie Rowe just because he wanted to have children but he never loved her the way he loved Lisa. It's always been clear to me. On the other hand I understood Lisa's reasons. She loved him so deeply that she wanted to be sure it was the right time. Michael didn't understand that and their marriage torn to pieces. But they loved each other undeniably.
Yeah but it wasn't Michael's fault either, they had previously agreed about it. They both had their reasons but it was meant to be this way. U can't blame either of them. At least they are not bitter about each other. I once saw them together in a dream, few weeks after Lisa died.
@@SuperStarlight4 I'm not blaming either of them. There was a lot of pression outside their relationship and that determined the end of the marriage.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Look at the pix of Lisa Marie and MJ you can see how much they loved each other. Ironic how she wanted to make sure the marriage was on solid ground b/c she never wanted to be in a custody battle with him yet she was in a 6 yr one with last ex-hubby when she died. You could just see how much they loved each other, if not for good old Debbie.
Yeah so there was no issue with custody and paternity. And they have his last name.
They loved eachother so much. The last bit makes me cry
So beautiful lisa marie Presley e Michael Jackson
I will say I always found it funny how during this time period both Michael & Lisa didn’t care ab the media, or Debbie, or anything else 😭they spent more time together after their divorce than when married
Debbie undoubtedly knew and understood that their relationship was a business relationship. Debbie admitted in an interview that Michael still loved Lisa while she was married to him. MJ publicly flaunted Debbie for show. He couldn't have it looking like he paid her to be a surrogate. Even though that's exactly what she was. Debbie calls the children "gifts" from her to Michael because she loved him. But he paid her 8 million dollars for those gifts. 😒 I truly believe Michael thought he and Lisa would be together after the Prince and Paris were born. That she would adopt them and eventually they'd have biological children when she was ready. The whole Debbie thing wasn't right, but I honestly don't think Michael could see it that way. To him Debbie Rowe was a means to an end. He could have kids immediately and still be with Lisa. I don't think he counted on Lisa choosing to walk away completely. It's really sad when you think about it because there was obviously so much love between the two of them.
@@kaleychase1846 Um no, Michael never wanted to be with Lisa again.. at least not immediately after divorce. She was still hung up over Danny while married to him and MJ did not trust her anymore. She played games with him on many things like having kids, Danny and Divorce. She broke his trust. He loved her, he loved the kids especially Riley but he did not ever trust Lisa Marie with his heart again, even though he continued to love her in his heart and mind.
I always love this song! And I am so glad you did this video.. well done! Like always. ❤️
Now she says they should have been together!!!!
Debbie Rowe is ridden with guilt. That’s her guilty conscience talking.
Apparently she wrote that song many years before. Likely when she was still feeling incredibly hurt. She really let her suppressed feelings out after he passed and I am certain that her constant heartache from grief was part of her early demise. Too much pain.
Honestly I have a lot of thoughts about this entire situation and I kind of hold it against Michael because he had an opportunity for a normal life with a woman who still very much sits well with his stature but he chose his path with Debbie she wanted to have an relationship with him and as Lisa said had a crush on him she thought having his kids might make him want her but he used her as a surrogate, now her saying they deserved to be together concludes for a long of people that he indeed loved lisa and pinned for her she was never at fault to have a safe environment she already had 2 she knew what their baby would be in the world the moment it is born it’s freaking mj son and Elvis grandchild that’s itself a lot i think he got stubborn and like a child stormed onto his own home ,do think realised it later what he had done and it was too late she had decided to move on I also believe he didn’t want to remarry because their relationship after divorce was too convient for him and she got insecure sad story 😢 but Debbie really sabotaged their relationship and i think now at her age it’s the guilt which is talking
This song sound like it was written about Debbie!!😁😁
She really wrote some incredible songs. I had no idea so many were about her and Michael. God damn it, why or why couldn't they have worked it out.
Now both of them are at peace, as well as Ben
Agora juntos para sempre ❤️❤️❤️😇😇❤️❤️❤️
Where did you get the clips of her singing the song at 2:11 and 2:20.
The song “Idiot” is also about her being very angry with MJ about Debbie.. she says he had the fine wine (Lisa) but he’s better off with Bud light (Debbie)
Actually no. Lisa said in 2013 the person was still alive and still an idiot.
@@ObsessiveNostalgiaDo you have a link to where she said that?
@ObsessiveNostalgia Lisa said that but it's obvious that the song was about Michael. The lyrics are a dead giveaway. She was hurt and angry with him because of the way their relationship ended.
@@kaleychase1846 I think so too “Did you settle your mediocre mind, you like dancing to the white trash twist”.. she’s calling debbie mediocre white trash & michael’s mind mediocre for choosing Debbie over her. She tells his future girlfriends not to call her for referral coz she has nothing good to say and she predicts he will drive them all nuts & they will end up hating him too just like her.
@@globalcitizenn It's not about Michael. She said she hates this person to this day and she meant every word she was singing (it was 2003). Not every song is
El Amor de su Vida de Michael Jackson era Lisa ❤❤❤❤😢
Danke. Ich. Danke..Euch. Beiden ❤❤❤❤❤😂❤❤❤❤❤
Уход Лизы связан не только с отказом родить ребенка, но и завистмостью Майкла от лекарств, которого она тоже боялась...
Yeah it's hard I get mad at Debbie sometimes think what a terrible thing to do. She was thinking about Michael probably herself. No one ever thought about lisa. I'm not sure why not cage not Jackson not her mom. Lisa had alot at stake. But I do know svsviage from scientology had alit to do w breaking them up n pushed lisa into divorcing m Jackson after hearing Jackson management was trying to poison Jackson marriage too.
So sad billions of money w Jackson n millions prestige face w liss. Lisa had 2 lids but sadly w danny a stology man. Lisa hated s t ology honestly she woke up her ROITS WASNT HER MOM EVER. NOT S T OOOGY N NOT SHAKED UP NEING A S T OLOGY HOUSE WIFE. LISA WAS BORN TO BE A PRINCESD ROYALTY OF THE KING OF MUSIC. ALWAYS. ITS IN HER BLOOD. ELVIS DNA SPERM VREATED LISA. NOT PERSCILLA THOUGH THATS HER MOM. LISA WAS BORN TO UNITE CONNECT N MARRY JACKSON
BUT HONESTLY HAD SHE BEEN MARRIED TO HIM SHE WOULD INHERIT JACKSON MONEY PROBABLY HAVE A KID W HIM. BUT HONESTLY IN A WEIRD WAY DEBBIE SAVED HER FROM SEEING HIM DIE.
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY TRAGIC TO LISA TO BE MARRIED TO JACKSON N AEE HIM DIE
BUT ISNT IT INTERESTING DRS GAVE HER OPIODS I THINK S T OLOGY HAD ALOT TO DO W HER DEATH
PERSCILLA IS VERY CLOSE TO LOCKWOID WHAT A MESS. ITS SAID AT LISA FUNERAL LOCKWOOD WASNT ALLOWED BUT PERSCILLA......AGAIN. DEFIED LISA WUSHES.
DEBBIE SHOULD HAD STAYED OUT OF IT.
PEOPLE JUST DONT KNOW BOUNDARIES . IT BROKE LISA HEART N RUINED HER TRUST W JACKSON. LUSA WENT TO BAT FOR JACKSON N THIS IS THE REWARD
SUCKS. MAKES ME MAD. LISA WAS THE ONLY ONE LOOKED PAST HIS FACE N SAW HIM LOVED HIM WANTED NOTHING. BUT JACKSON LATER ON STATED HE COULDNT STAND LISA SAVING HIM. JACKSON CHOOSE THE VAMPIRES N KIDS INSTEAD OF MARRIAGE TO LISA.
YEAH ID BE HURT TOO
LOVE LISA LOVE HER PERSONALITY. MUSIC. SHE WENT TYRU DO MUCHVW S T OLOGY USING HER. HER MOM FAULT N PERSCILLA NEEDS TO REPENT APOLOGIZE IT SCREWED LISA UP SO BADLY. CONTROLLING LISA N TORMENTING HER IN SO MSNY WAYS THEY WERE HER FAKE FAMIKY N FRIEND.
TILL AFTER JACKSON SHE STARTED TO SEE TRUTH HOW THEY WERE USING HER KYING TO HER TO SIGN JACKSON UP. BUT LISA WASNT LIKE THAT AT ALL. LATER SHE LEFT THEM N ADTER SEEING SEIGEL HER MOM WASTE HER MONEY USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE SHE BROKE IT OFF FROM ALL.
TOO BAD LOCKWOOD WAS A MONEY GRABBER TOO. EVERYONE WANTED LISA GOLDEN EGGS FOR NOTAROETY POOR LUSA SHE BE OFF MARRYUNG A MEMPHIS MAN THEN ALK THESE LET DOWNS. SO SAD WHAT BEN N RILEY WENT THRU. NONE OF THIS IS LISA FAULT.
REALLY LIKE TO JUSTICE N VINDICATION FOR HER.
Scientology and Priscilla have a lot to do with their breakup. Priscilla put Lisa in Scientology soon after her father's death.She was forced to do obedience therapy and purity roundowns since she was a kid. It sounds like child abuse and torture. Priscilla was no better than Michael's father.
2:33
Was That Debbie at the end? 🧐
Yes that was Debbie, after fighting cancer. Sweet of her to say they (LMP & MJ) were meant to be together
@@gwenr1213 bit late though!
Sorry, but who is the woman at the end ? Debbie ?
Yes that’s Debbie. She was in the TMZ special. I couldn’t believe it was her either!
Good of her to say she hoped they are together.
@@ObsessiveNostalgia Debbie KNEW she broke Michael & Lisa up!! I believe she didn't give a care if she SABATOGED their marriage as long as she got her hooks into him!! She thought he would love her like he loved Lisa .. WRONG!! Now that she's old she has ALOT of regrets!! ❣❣
@@kathybryson7539 weird of Debbie to say that now after all of these years.
That's not right having a child with Debbie while he's still married to Lisa Marie.was that really true love on his part,I believe she was very happy after she stopped talking to him.she was to beautiful.
MJ LA TRAICIONO POR DESPECHO. COMO ELLA NO QUIZO DARLE HIKO MUY BIEN POR LISA. Y POR ESO ELLA CUANDO LA LLAMO EN EL 2005 ELLA LE DIJO ME ES INDIFERENTE.
Whats the song called
Lisa didn't look very well in her last pictures, sadly!! Michael was never in love with her, I believe he loved Lisa fiercely!
😭
LISA MARII WAR MIT MICHAEL IST MIT MICHAEL UND BLEIBT IN HIMMEL MIT MICHAEL FUR EWIGKEIT❤
SO SIND REGEL BEIM GOTT.
SO IST DIE WAHRE LIEBE.
FUR EWIGKEIT❤❤❤❤❤
She wss jealous of Debbie Row
😢 you're grounded mister
Yo queria mucho esta pareja, pero Lisa hizo bien en no tener hijo con Michael.
But why??????😮😮😮
Si re bien le dolió mucho que Michael se fue por otro lado
Good thing she didn’t give in. He just wanted a child. He was an opportunist and never cared about Lisa and she finally figured it out.
Con todo l9 que leído y visto creo que si. A Michael solo le interesaba su carrera, su fama. Su dinero y los niños. Me alegro que Lisa no le hiciera caso en el 2005 cuando la llamo.
Im afraid Micheal put children before Lisa he was going to have children somehow even if it ment without Lisamarie.😢
Eu amei essa indireta pra Debbie , mulher bem ridícula eu detesto ela ... fico boba como tem fãs e defendem ela 🤦♀️🙄
Indirecta?? Creo que es muy directa. 🤣🤣
@@nat_TV22 Yessssss 😂😂😂
Michael Jackson's father
Yikes....Debbie Rowe has NOT aged well!! 😳
She had cancer:(
She's been through a lot.
I think Debbie was sad for Lisa..especially at the end