@8:00 ish, BODY POSITION, The most, most, outright mostest important thing is that the two points that ""SWIVEL"" are concentric. Your HEAD MUST BE directly over the STEERING PIVOT, PERIOD. What that does is it aligns the body's directional sensor & ""CPU"" with that of the machine that is being maneuvered about & all of the motions & reactions are happening ""ON THE SAME VERTICAL PLANE"" so that when the brain tells the body to ""COUNTER"" this or that input, the corresponding movements are in harmony. What you were talking about with the track - bike - body reactions bit right here is not as easy to ""SEE or WATCH"" as in the days of old. If you go back and watch some of our best riders in the past, JS7 is a ""GOOD LOOK"", when they are going the fastest, it almost ""LOOKS"" like they are ""AHEAD OF & WAITING"" for the bike to get to the part of the track that they have ALREADY POSITIONED THEIR BODY TO BE READY FOR, before that rest of the machine got there. They are so ""IN THE ZONE"" and processing everything so fast that they seem to have gotten to that point on the track before the bike did & they are just standing there with their hands on their hips saying, ""COME ON BIKE, KEEP UP WITH ME"". Totally awesome to see & watch & KNOW exactly what you are SEEING & WATCHING!! The best surprise of your ""A KIT"" will be that one or two places on your local track that you ALWAYS tense up for and get ready for the ""HIT"" and the bewilderment that comes over your being after that first pass & you turn around to see if the hole is missing this week or what & as you continue & watch everyone else ""SLAM"" into said ""HIT"" & realize that yes indeed, it is still right where it has always been & you didn't even feel anything as you blew right thru that spot, lap after lap & think about all the energy you save by not tensing up or even thinking about it. Another bonus is the faster you get the gyros spinning, the smoother the whole track seems to be. It is heaven, enjoy!! P.S. Along with said speed comes the need for more & better WHEEL MAINTENANCE!!!
its really funny hearing CJ speak on seeing himself ride and thinking its styleless. I hate seeing myself ride but everyone i meet tells me I ride smooth and well.
Great words mate. I'd like to offer the theoretical understanding of technique and the rider's ability to navigate the environment to apply said techniques in order to reach optimal body position- this is the rider's mindset. As for talent, this word takes away from the true value of every competitor's craft and practice. Natural ability does exist, but not without environmental factors first directing their expression. Everyone has natural ability, what separates each of us is our desire and commitment for the finish line.
Great series, Coty talked about something before which is key and something many coaches don’t say or talk about but try to work with! You covered it slightly, but comparing Jujitsu to say moto is slightly flawed but similar, if Joe B with no skill walks into a Dojo and says I want to fight or spa with the best top ranked fighter he’ll get his arse kicked no question, no matter how big how tough right! Joe Blow can go buy today a 450 and many do even 350s! What happens they a: learn no technique or worse bad habits, the bike like a Black belt or top tier Red tier 9 belt holder for example can kick your arse when it wants to, anyone can ride around like miss daisy on a 4t these days, most can’t ride to stock 450 level. My point is you need to develop technique on a bike that can demand technique from you at a level that you can build a base from technique wise! You don’t start in Jujitsu with top tier fight positions or fighting techniques you start with very basic drills at a very basic level the drills develop muscle memory, base understanding for building your knowledge, techniques, moves, skills for each new belt level, it’s structured, few people if any just pick it up by buying a belt and jumping into a ring, yet that is exactly what you can do on a motorcycle! You can go to a track as a complete and utter never thrown a leg over a bike and be on a 2021 MX 450, and it’s done more often than not and in off road trail riding. weekend riding as well, not saying it needs control though at the track imo there should be a grading system to ride certain tracks eg pro track, vets track, kids track etc etc. But back to technique and the right tools to learn technique regardless of age weight etc, if anyone truly wants to learn technique properly as fast as possible, best as possible and safe as possible, whether to be a pro, or be the best they can be for what ever they want to achieve lr enjoy on a bike, then EGO must be put aside, the right tool to develop skills to develop technique must be used first? Otherwise you A: Put yourself at risk, B you out others at risk, C you will hinder and slow your progress! That’s fact and it’s as simple as your analogy in JuJitsu and any other for,, whether it be a job, sport amateur or pro anything in life. But few things allow you to go buy a tool as advanced and requires as technical level then riding a dirtbike, the speeds, the dynamics are almost unmatched in any other form for the price for the access than a modern dirtbike. This is why 500s were revered only he most stupid clueless muppet bought a KX, YZ or CR500 and tried to be a local hero with no skills, sure a few did and have the scars to prove it, but I bet it didn’t last long. An important part re technique and the earlier suspension part as you improve suspension while you may have more room for era, you also allow for increased speeds this means if technique and form and skill are not matched you are going faster when things do go wrong, now for Coty with his skill set, he will have skill reaction speeds anticipation and sheer hours under his belt to react but still everyone crashes no matter what your skill level To and crashes, Roczen crash’s, point is the bike is a dynamic beast eg when it’s moving the static weight and engine inertia become dynamic as does the body, the faster you go, say due to improved suspension engines mods etc, have you improved your body dynamics to match, if you still puddle around at same speeds as before yes you have more saftey margin, but likely you will gain improved mental ability (perceived) until the inevitable crash does happen. So point on that is not saying anyone shouldn’t get better susp soon or engine mods, but stock you have a certain saftey barrier if you aren’t able to already ride to the bikes capability, if you are riding beyond the bikes capability eg over jumping out cornering the handling characteristics of the stock machine, geo, suspension, control setup, etc then it’s probably safe to assume you are ready for next level modifications. This is where it needs to me made clear between say Coty and rest he’s got the skills years on minis, 125s, 2502t 250fs and now 450fs, he’s had a succession of development. personally ai think that’s the right development! esp the 125. I say this time and time again, for anyone a 125 is one of the best tools to learn technique on, to develop race skills, line choice, esp on corners, track management, it will develop and view on track courses unlike any bike, even Coty said when he watches the pros they all rode the same lines but do it differently. I am no Tomac fan boi, but one thing he does outdoors better in this current gen than anyone else including Roczen is he can and does choose alternative lines, this is a major skill missing in 250/450 4t era. Study James Stewart on a 125, RC on a 125, the biggest difference between them and anyone in that generation was lines, lines is what gave them a speed difference over everyone else, every great 125 rider had this, something missing in the new gen on 4t generation. So if you must have a 350 or 450 if you want to develop technique, don’t buy 6k suspension, buy a 125 first, you don’t need it new, set it up, power is easy to sort out, if you are too big then maybe you should look at some other form of training, Im 200lbs and still ride a 125, I have a YZ125 and 250, 2ts. I still spend most of my time on a 125, a it’s more fun, b it’s better for my riding when I am on the 250. Then you can upgrade ya 350/450. Obviously for coaches running clinics they can only work with what the ride has, but imo/e it is limiting factor. But having done some skills clinics and some coaching myself, I always assess someone first before trying to teach them anything, where are they on their bike in terms of capability compared to the bike they ride, then their skills base and technical base, you can’t put a square leg in a round hole, that’s the main issue it’s always been around, but imo it’s much worse today because of the accessibility to easy to ride but powerful Mx250/450 4T, there is riding and the. there is riding! look on any track and see how many guys last a lap or few are slow can’t corner, dead sailor using power of the bike to hump over table tops instead of technique, skills, into out of a corner, as I mentioned earlier to be safe for themselves and others on said track, let alone to improve technical ability. Will def be watching a bit more of Coty though, good vlogs glad you had him on 🤙
It's his podcast ya fucker , and for two , he tells these side stories to compare what in his life helps him relate or compare to the seriousness of top mx athletes most of the time . It's not an interview its a podcast.
Technique is learned in the first yr or so of competitive riding. It’s the most important aspect of racing and is very important to learn the correct technique early as it turns into a habit. Also technique only breaks down for 2 real reasons. 1 arm pump/not in shape and 2 emotionally being broke by getting passed…. Watch ken, his technique gets broke down when he’s caught and passed or when he gets tired.
The two fastest guys ever, Stew and RC, had completely opposite styles. There are many, many factors that go into going fast, and it's highly dependant on what clicks with each rider.
Good point about jujitsu. I’ve done some taekwondo and never learned so much about efficient body movement for power and flow, and can totally see how that connects to mx technique. :-)
Great topic Jase. You ask questions I want to know. (50 year old ex C grade Aussie motocrosser). I'd like you to ask people, 'What is talent?' You keep hearing about how talented a guy is. "Jett has more natural talent than Hunter" for example. At Wanneroo in WA, I tried to follow a top 5 ranked guy and couldn't. It seems to me, talent is the ability to take in information and process it super fast, and then make the instinctive reaction to that information. I see the pros kick sideways and their bodies react so quick to counteract it. For me when I tried to follow a fast guy, my bike kicked sideways and it was like I saw my rear wheel pass me before my brain thought, 'quick, do something about that!'. Then it was just sky/sand/sky/sand. Good luck with Gypsy Tales Aussie brother.
We don't just correct it, we know exactly how the bike is going to react before we hit a kicker, g out, etc. The biggest thing in a bike is the suspension and having a bike thats predictable, 250fs and 450's have more than enough power, 90% of guys cant use a stock 250f to its full potential, theres zero reason to be on a 450 in my opinion. There's nothing worse than a bike that kicks a way you either didn't expect, or you hit something the same exact way 50 times prior and then all of a sudden it'll randomly do something you never expected, thats when you end up on your head before you even realize it. Thats why the first few years with the backwards engine yamaha was so terrible. The KYB forks and shock were great as usual, more power than needed, and in theory having the weight centered in the bike should work well, but it was completely unpredictable, no matter the setting i couldnt trust the bike. The 250 was never that way, but 450s like to kick and swap more from the power and extra rotating mass, the power also stresses the chassis more and can make it binde up. Theres just nothing more scary than a bike that unpredictable and you never know when its going to decide to do something weird... I'd rather ride a bike that i atleast know it's going to kick bad vs a bike that feels great but just randomly does something completely unexpected. You need to have that feel with the bike, especially in the front end, i love more feedback to my hands from the front wheel than the average guy. You also need to always look ahead, spot new lines if the the main line is getting blown out and know how to read the track before you ever get to that section.... but suspension and technique is everything to get more speed both safely and do it without expending as much energy. There's guys that charge insanely hard, lock the brakes, clutch the corners and their lap times are terrible and they're using a lot of energy to do it. Using the rear brakes at all in the corner will stand the bike up, only thing you ever want to touch is drag the front lightly at times to keep the front end planted, but it's not enough to slow the bike, it just adds enough extra weight to the front to stay planted in certain corners. Stay away from the clutch too, especially on these 4 strokes, you can lug them in a tall gear and still be able to pull out. Come in with comfortable amount of speed, do any braking prior to the entry of the corner, chop the throttle and roll the corner with momentum through the apex and then roll the throttle on in the exit. It feels slower but carrying momentum and being smooth leads to faster lap times, it's also much easier and takes less energy. One of the best training tools you can possibly have is a corner track, it can be as simple as a figure 8 and pound out laps focusing on technique. It doesn't take up much area and you can do it multiple times a week, you'll gain speed and confidence quick. Jumps will come in time and you can speed check guys, that's honestly the easy part and riders should mainly focus on the other areas, body positioning and corners mainly, atleast until youre ready for more advanced techniques. If you have problems using the rear brake in corners like majority of riders or touching the clutch in corners (you don't need the clutch at all on a 250F or 450), remove the clutch lever (just kick in 2nd going down a slight hill) and the rear brake pedal. Another thing my dad did growing up was remove my seat so I had to stand constantly. You have way more leverage and control while standing and gripping with your knees than you do sitting down, sitting makes you lazy and you cant be in the proper attack position. Remember to keep your toes pointed in towards the bike too. I'd go watch some of AJ Catanzaro's training videos and then do what it says while focusing solely on that one tip until it's second nature, then move on to another technique. Don't worry about doing it fast, at all, just do it correctly no matter how slow you have to go to do it until you don't even think about it anymore. The speed will come. For new young riders, It's much easier to teach proper technique and body positioning from day one. Its always easier to avoid developing bad habits than it is to break them. It'll take time and repetition, but pretty much every main technique you need to learn to ride a bike properly can be learned on a small corner track. Plus, the more you ride it, the rougher and more beneficial it will be. I've had a long corner track with huge braking bumps, rollers formed (especially in the sand sections), hooks in some of the corners, and some throttle bumps coming out. Having other guys ride it also helps to make the track develop differently over time than it would by yourself. If you have proper corner technique and roll them with momentum, you won't have any braking bumps in the actual corner, besides maybe a hook it should be smooth the whole way through from entry through the apex until the spot where youre rolling the throttle on the exit, just try rolling on throttle a bit earlier each time, as long as you remain smooth. Besides maybe a few fast corners, you'll never find smooth corners at a local or amateur track unless there's a pro ride day. Honestly, amateur national tracks can get more rough (in different ways) than a pro national. For example, larger and a lot more braking bumps (some in places there shouldn't be any at all) and ive seen big rollers that are peaked because kids will roll them slow on mini's and then hold it wide open as the go down the backsides, it makes the tops sharp which makes it a lot more difficult to carry speed and keep the rear wheel drove down to the ground and the front wheel light the whole way through. Sorry for the rant, but hope this atleast provided you or someone else with something beneficial.
That’s why myself and many other motocross riders love the game of golf it is so much about technique and knowing exactly what you are doing that is either a benefit or a drawback to the end result. Before, I was just swinging and trying shit without knowing what it did.
G'day Gypsy Tales, I am an 18 year old mx enthusiast who is all about technique. Ever since realising just how important technique is about 18 months ago, that is all I have focussed on. Ever since my technique has much improved, my speed is no slower than what I was 3 years ago with poor technique and less experience. I am just wondering if you have heard of anything like this, and why i might be the case? Cheers
Cause you are 18 and when you had bad technique you were probably well outside your comfort and on the edge:) i would try to improve one thing at a time and make sure its dialed. Corners are where you gain or lose time. Make sure you are in the right gear and work on a turn. When you feel its dialed start going faster into the turn.
@@GYPSYTALES i actually stopped jits in my early 20s, 37 now, but about to have me and my 7 year old start back in some father son stuff as soon as covid stops ruining all the fun.
Oh dear ! We’re back to Gypsy Judo again , love this show , but I don’t care about your personal journey with MMA , I stopped watching a while back due to this exact reason , keep it MX man , keep up the good work ✌🏻
This Coty Shock series has been really good!
Thank you man! Coty is just a dope dude!
Yeah so much better than than the swapmoto live interview I just watched with Hansen. It was like an episode of dude where’s my car?
Or you could just listen to the whole podcast at once. Lol
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@8:00 ish, BODY POSITION, The most, most, outright mostest important thing is that the two points that ""SWIVEL"" are concentric. Your HEAD MUST BE directly over the STEERING PIVOT, PERIOD. What that does is it aligns the body's directional sensor & ""CPU"" with that of the machine that is being maneuvered about & all of the motions & reactions are happening ""ON THE SAME VERTICAL PLANE"" so that when the brain tells the body to ""COUNTER"" this or that input, the corresponding movements are in harmony.
What you were talking about with the track - bike - body reactions bit right here is not as easy to ""SEE or WATCH"" as in the days of old. If you go back and watch some of our best riders in the past, JS7 is a ""GOOD LOOK"", when they are going the fastest, it almost ""LOOKS"" like they are ""AHEAD OF & WAITING"" for the bike to get to the part of the track that they have ALREADY POSITIONED THEIR BODY TO BE READY FOR, before that rest of the machine got there. They are so ""IN THE ZONE"" and processing everything so fast that they seem to have gotten to that point on the track before the bike did & they are just standing there with their hands on their hips saying, ""COME ON BIKE, KEEP UP WITH ME"". Totally awesome to see & watch & KNOW exactly what you are SEEING & WATCHING!!
The best surprise of your ""A KIT"" will be that one or two places on your local track that you ALWAYS tense up for and get ready for the ""HIT"" and the bewilderment that comes over your being after that first pass & you turn around to see if the hole is missing this week or what & as you continue & watch everyone else ""SLAM"" into said ""HIT"" & realize that yes indeed, it is still right where it has always been & you didn't even feel anything as you blew right thru that spot, lap after lap & think about all the energy you save by not tensing up or even thinking about it. Another bonus is the faster you get the gyros spinning, the smoother the whole track seems to be. It is heaven, enjoy!!
P.S. Along with said speed comes the need for more & better WHEEL MAINTENANCE!!!
Absolutely love these podcasts! Love the insight that you get out of your guests. Keep up the good work!
Thanks mate! Will try too!
these pro incites to motocross, just is fascinating! espcially the technical talk., bike setup etc, and i dont even ride
its really funny hearing CJ speak on seeing himself ride and thinking its styleless. I hate seeing myself ride but everyone i meet tells me I ride smooth and well.
I Met coty at Budds two days ago, Best Overall So Far!!! Dude’s killing it! Massive Fan Now
Great words mate. I'd like to offer the theoretical understanding of technique and the rider's ability to navigate the environment to apply said techniques in order to reach optimal body position- this is the rider's mindset. As for talent, this word takes away from the true value of every competitor's craft and practice. Natural ability does exist, but not without environmental factors first directing their expression. Everyone has natural ability, what separates each of us is our desire and commitment for the finish line.
You're such a fkn nerd with this stuff, and I absolutely love it 🤙 glad there's content like this out there
Best compliment ever 🤓
Great series, Coty talked about something before which is key and something many coaches don’t say or talk about but try to work with!
You covered it slightly, but comparing Jujitsu to say moto is slightly flawed but similar, if Joe B with no skill walks into a Dojo and says I want to fight or spa with the best top ranked fighter he’ll get his arse kicked no question, no matter how big how tough right!
Joe Blow can go buy today a 450 and many do even 350s!
What happens they a: learn no technique or worse bad habits, the bike like a Black belt or top tier Red tier 9 belt holder for example can kick your arse when it wants to, anyone can ride around like miss daisy on a 4t these days, most can’t ride to stock 450 level.
My point is you need to develop technique on a bike that can demand technique from you at a level that you can build a base from technique wise!
You don’t start in Jujitsu with top tier fight positions or fighting techniques you start with very basic drills at a very basic level the drills develop muscle memory, base understanding for building your knowledge, techniques, moves, skills for each new belt level, it’s structured, few people if any just pick it up by buying a belt and jumping into a ring, yet that is exactly what you can do on a motorcycle! You can go to a track as a complete and utter never thrown a leg over a bike and be on a 2021 MX 450, and it’s done more often than not and in off road trail riding. weekend riding as well, not saying it needs control though at the track imo there should be a grading system to ride certain tracks eg pro track, vets track, kids track etc etc.
But back to technique and the right tools to learn technique regardless of age weight etc, if anyone truly wants to learn technique properly as fast as possible, best as possible and safe as possible, whether to be a pro, or be the best they can be for what ever they want to achieve lr enjoy on a bike, then EGO must be put aside, the right tool to develop skills to develop technique must be used first?
Otherwise you A: Put yourself at risk, B you out others at risk, C you will hinder and slow your progress! That’s fact and it’s as simple as your analogy in JuJitsu and any other for,, whether it be a job, sport amateur or pro anything in life. But few things allow you to go buy a tool as advanced and requires as technical level then riding a dirtbike, the speeds, the dynamics are almost unmatched in any other form for the price for the access than a modern dirtbike.
This is why 500s were revered only he most stupid clueless muppet bought a KX, YZ or CR500 and tried to be a local hero with no skills, sure a few did and have the scars to prove it, but I bet it didn’t last long.
An important part re technique and the earlier suspension part as you improve suspension while you may have more room for era, you also allow for increased speeds this means if technique and form and skill are not matched you are going faster when things do go wrong, now for Coty with his skill set, he will have skill reaction speeds anticipation and sheer hours under his belt to react but still everyone crashes no matter what your skill level To and crashes, Roczen crash’s, point is the bike is a dynamic beast eg when it’s moving the static weight and engine inertia become dynamic as does the body, the faster you go, say due to improved suspension engines mods etc, have you improved your body dynamics to match, if you still puddle around at same speeds as before yes you have more saftey margin, but likely you will gain improved mental ability (perceived) until the inevitable crash does happen.
So point on that is not saying anyone shouldn’t get better susp soon or engine mods, but stock you have a certain saftey barrier if you aren’t able to already ride to the bikes capability, if you are riding beyond the bikes capability eg over jumping out cornering the handling characteristics of the stock machine, geo, suspension, control setup, etc then it’s probably safe to assume you are ready for next level modifications.
This is where it needs to me made clear between say Coty and rest he’s got the skills years on minis, 125s, 2502t 250fs and now 450fs, he’s had a succession of development. personally ai think that’s the right development! esp the 125.
I say this time and time again, for anyone a 125 is one of the best tools to learn technique on, to develop race skills, line choice, esp on corners, track management, it will develop and view on track courses unlike any bike, even Coty said when he watches the pros they all rode the same lines but do it differently.
I am no Tomac fan boi, but one thing he does outdoors better in this current gen than anyone else including Roczen is he can and does choose alternative lines, this is a major skill missing in 250/450 4t era.
Study James Stewart on a 125, RC on a 125, the biggest difference between them and anyone in that generation was lines, lines is what gave them a speed difference over everyone else, every great 125 rider had this, something missing in the new gen on 4t generation.
So if you must have a 350 or 450 if you want to develop technique, don’t buy 6k suspension, buy a 125 first, you don’t need it new, set it up, power is easy to sort out, if you are too big then maybe you should look at some other form of training, Im 200lbs and still ride a 125, I have a YZ125 and 250, 2ts.
I still spend most of my time on a 125, a it’s more fun, b it’s better for my riding when I am on the 250.
Then you can upgrade ya 350/450.
Obviously for coaches running clinics they can only work with what the ride has, but imo/e it is limiting factor.
But having done some skills clinics and some coaching myself, I always assess someone first before trying to teach them anything, where are they on their bike in terms of capability compared to the bike they ride, then their skills base and technical base, you can’t put a square leg in a round hole, that’s the main issue it’s always been around, but imo it’s much worse today because of the accessibility to easy to ride but powerful Mx250/450 4T, there is riding and the. there is riding! look on any track and see how many guys last a lap or few are slow can’t corner, dead sailor using power of the bike to hump over table tops instead of technique, skills, into out of a corner, as I mentioned earlier to be safe for themselves and others on said track, let alone to improve technical ability.
Will def be watching a bit more of Coty though, good vlogs glad you had him on 🤙
Be nice to hear what Cody has to say instead of all about how great Gypsy is.
Listen to the 3 hour podcast then instead of this one clip. And if still aren’t satisfied, I’ll refund you the money you paid to listen 🤘🏼
Ha! Rolled. Go get life sol. No one is forcing you for listen.
It's his podcast ya fucker , and for two , he tells these side stories to compare what in his life helps him relate or compare to the seriousness of top mx athletes most of the time . It's not an interview its a podcast.
I found the jujitsu talk helpful for understanding what they mean about the intricacies of technique
Technique is learned in the first yr or so of competitive riding. It’s the most important aspect of racing and is very important to learn the correct technique early as it turns into a habit. Also technique only breaks down for 2 real reasons. 1 arm pump/not in shape and 2 emotionally being broke by getting passed…. Watch ken, his technique gets broke down when he’s caught and passed or when he gets tired.
The two fastest guys ever, Stew and RC, had completely opposite styles. There are many, many factors that go into going fast, and it's highly dependant on what clicks with each rider.
@@jonWilk8156 True, but Stew didn't crash that much until he got on the Yamaha. He had an unbeaten season after all.
@@rg807wrong he was crashing hard on kawis too
Ride a trials event. Slowing down taught me about rider position. Being ready for the next obstacle
I put that photo out there 🤙🏻😂
Good point about jujitsu. I’ve done some taekwondo and never learned so much about efficient body movement for power and flow, and can totally see how that connects to mx technique. :-)
Great topic Jase. You ask questions I want to know. (50 year old ex C grade Aussie motocrosser). I'd like you to ask people, 'What is talent?' You keep hearing about how talented a guy is. "Jett has more natural talent than Hunter" for example.
At Wanneroo in WA, I tried to follow a top 5 ranked guy and couldn't. It seems to me, talent is the ability to take in information and process it super fast, and then make the instinctive reaction to that information. I see the pros kick sideways and their bodies react so quick to counteract it. For me when I tried to follow a fast guy, my bike kicked sideways and it was like I saw my rear wheel pass me before my brain thought, 'quick, do something about that!'. Then it was just sky/sand/sky/sand.
Good luck with Gypsy Tales Aussie brother.
We don't just correct it, we know exactly how the bike is going to react before we hit a kicker, g out, etc. The biggest thing in a bike is the suspension and having a bike thats predictable, 250fs and 450's have more than enough power, 90% of guys cant use a stock 250f to its full potential, theres zero reason to be on a 450 in my opinion. There's nothing worse than a bike that kicks a way you either didn't expect, or you hit something the same exact way 50 times prior and then all of a sudden it'll randomly do something you never expected, thats when you end up on your head before you even realize it. Thats why the first few years with the backwards engine yamaha was so terrible. The KYB forks and shock were great as usual, more power than needed, and in theory having the weight centered in the bike should work well, but it was completely unpredictable, no matter the setting i couldnt trust the bike. The 250 was never that way, but 450s like to kick and swap more from the power and extra rotating mass, the power also stresses the chassis more and can make it binde up. Theres just nothing more scary than a bike that unpredictable and you never know when its going to decide to do something weird... I'd rather ride a bike that i atleast know it's going to kick bad vs a bike that feels great but just randomly does something completely unexpected.
You need to have that feel with the bike, especially in the front end, i love more feedback to my hands from the front wheel than the average guy. You also need to always look ahead, spot new lines if the the main line is getting blown out and know how to read the track before you ever get to that section.... but suspension and technique is everything to get more speed both safely and do it without expending as much energy. There's guys that charge insanely hard, lock the brakes, clutch the corners and their lap times are terrible and they're using a lot of energy to do it. Using the rear brakes at all in the corner will stand the bike up, only thing you ever want to touch is drag the front lightly at times to keep the front end planted, but it's not enough to slow the bike, it just adds enough extra weight to the front to stay planted in certain corners. Stay away from the clutch too, especially on these 4 strokes, you can lug them in a tall gear and still be able to pull out.
Come in with comfortable amount of speed, do any braking prior to the entry of the corner, chop the throttle and roll the corner with momentum through the apex and then roll the throttle on in the exit. It feels slower but carrying momentum and being smooth leads to faster lap times, it's also much easier and takes less energy.
One of the best training tools you can possibly have is a corner track, it can be as simple as a figure 8 and pound out laps focusing on technique. It doesn't take up much area and you can do it multiple times a week, you'll gain speed and confidence quick. Jumps will come in time and you can speed check guys, that's honestly the easy part and riders should mainly focus on the other areas, body positioning and corners mainly, atleast until youre ready for more advanced techniques. If you have problems using the rear brake in corners like majority of riders or touching the clutch in corners (you don't need the clutch at all on a 250F or 450), remove the clutch lever (just kick in 2nd going down a slight hill) and the rear brake pedal. Another thing my dad did growing up was remove my seat so I had to stand constantly. You have way more leverage and control while standing and gripping with your knees than you do sitting down, sitting makes you lazy and you cant be in the proper attack position. Remember to keep your toes pointed in towards the bike too.
I'd go watch some of AJ Catanzaro's training videos and then do what it says while focusing solely on that one tip until it's second nature, then move on to another technique. Don't worry about doing it fast, at all, just do it correctly no matter how slow you have to go to do it until you don't even think about it anymore. The speed will come.
For new young riders, It's much easier to teach proper technique and body positioning from day one. Its always easier to avoid developing bad habits than it is to break them. It'll take time and repetition, but pretty much every main technique you need to learn to ride a bike properly can be learned on a small corner track. Plus, the more you ride it, the rougher and more beneficial it will be. I've had a long corner track with huge braking bumps, rollers formed (especially in the sand sections), hooks in some of the corners, and some throttle bumps coming out. Having other guys ride it also helps to make the track develop differently over time than it would by yourself. If you have proper corner technique and roll them with momentum, you won't have any braking bumps in the actual corner, besides maybe a hook it should be smooth the whole way through from entry through the apex until the spot where youre rolling the throttle on the exit, just try rolling on throttle a bit earlier each time, as long as you remain smooth. Besides maybe a few fast corners, you'll never find smooth corners at a local or amateur track unless there's a pro ride day. Honestly, amateur national tracks can get more rough (in different ways) than a pro national. For example, larger and a lot more braking bumps (some in places there shouldn't be any at all) and ive seen big rollers that are peaked because kids will roll them slow on mini's and then hold it wide open as the go down the backsides, it makes the tops sharp which makes it a lot more difficult to carry speed and keep the rear wheel drove down to the ground and the front wheel light the whole way through.
Sorry for the rant, but hope this atleast provided you or someone else with something beneficial.
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Man this is good shit right here
That’s why myself and many other motocross riders love the game of golf it is so much about technique and knowing exactly what you are doing that is either a benefit or a drawback to the end result. Before, I was just swinging and trying shit without knowing what it did.
More coty!!!!
G'day Gypsy Tales,
I am an 18 year old mx enthusiast who is all about technique. Ever since realising just how important technique is about 18 months ago, that is all I have focussed on.
Ever since my technique has much improved, my speed is no slower than what I was 3 years ago with poor technique and less experience.
I am just wondering if you have heard of anything like this, and why i might be the case?
Cheers
Cause you are 18 and when you had bad technique you were probably well outside your comfort and on the edge:) i would try to improve one thing at a time and make sure its dialed. Corners are where you gain or lose time. Make sure you are in the right gear and work on a turn. When you feel its dialed start going faster into the turn.
JJ and riding are so similar for me, both extremely humbling 😆
Hahaha agreed! How long have you been training
@@GYPSYTALES i actually stopped jits in my early 20s, 37 now, but about to have me and my 7 year old start back in some father son stuff as soon as covid stops ruining all the fun.
I thought you meant the other kind of JJ at first glance. In fairness it can be similar to riding and humbling to.
Oh dear ! We’re back to Gypsy Judo again , love this show , but I don’t care about your personal journey with MMA , I stopped watching a while back due to this exact reason , keep it MX man , keep up the good work ✌🏻
Thats why Chase is riding for HONDA
Perfect technico auto matically no thinking
I find racers have no style from say 10 5 years ago you have the odd one or two glimpse of it but I feel the training from coachs takes that away
To have perfect techinque in Moto u must be like water grasshooper....peace zen u will know
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With the best guys in the world? When was Sexton racing the GPs? haha
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