Under "flexible tutors" I totally forgot to add Sunforger, oops! Sunforger is one of the best cards in the deck as it pumps / draws cards off Wyleth, the precon is loaded with tutor targets, and it pairs wonderfully with equip cost reducers like Brass Squire. Sunforger gets even stronger once you add additional cost reducers such as Puresteel Paladin.
@@olddaydreams Thank you! It feels so good to pass on my little bit of good fortune to budding players. I don’t know that I’ll be giving Aesi out in the coming months though as I’m tired of Land decks for the time being. 😂
Sneak Attack is dope! I think I swapped out 8 cards for around $30 worth of upgrades, most of which I already had, and it wrecks! Even without upgrading it could hang in most LGS circles
This upgrade video really didn't hit as well as past iterations. I love your stuff Tomer, I even built your Gavi upgrade, but this new video feels a bit watered down. I really liked it when you went over every change in the decks, as it helped me recognize card's synergies and values. Going back to Gavi; your explanation of Ephara made me see the value in those effects for her. I do realize you have more obligations now running this entire channel though, and I will continue to love and support the content regardless of how it's presented.
Yeah this one was produced a lot faster than before since I have a lot more on my plate, but next precon will have a card for card upgrade explanation.
This precon is great: Card draw, extra combats and solid sunforger package The first upgrade I would suggest is a Mistveil Plains to recycle you sunforger instants Kor Cartographer can find it in the deck too.
I'm fairly sure reason the precon has 40 lands is that almost every other precon has had 40 lands. WOTC generally likes to err more on the side of players getting more than enough lands over not getting enough. I also guess that wizards goes for 40 lands with the expectation that players will naturally cut lands when maybe they shouldn't, and a deck going from 40 o 38 is still functional while a deck with 36 going to 34 is going to struggle if it isn't built with that low a land count in mind.
Thoughts on Laccolith Rig? Cheap Aura (budget and mana wise). Allows for political play. Allows Wyleth to be removal for creatures that won't normally enter the fray. Or possibly Delif's Cube (political attacks / repeatable regenerate)
And here I was just thinking about building a boros aggro deck for centurion. Grabbed the precons as soon as my lgs made them available for preorder :) Credit were it's due to WotC for these budget-friendly yet interesting commander precons
I'm curious on why no ember cleave. It seems like we would be better suited to put it in than sword of fire and ice. Hexproof deals with bounce/control indestructible deals with most of reds options, ember cleve deals with an opponent likely in one shot. To me one should focus on giving this hexproof and indestructible. Then on trample and death touch. Then on getting massive/infect. It feels like you are trying to play far/nice rather than actually trying to kill your opponents. What i mean by this is it feels like your $200 upgrade is mostly a value per turn upgrade but only moves the clock maybe one turn forward towards winning. I understand that its an on attack trigger so the more you attack the more you draw. With that being said this deck is going to be viewed as a big scary threat like all vultrons are. So playing fair will just get you killed. As far as win out of no where if you want a jank but brutal way of doing so, world slayer and teferis protection. Although I do not recommend doing that.
Imo, the Simic one seems to be on par with the Zendikar Rising Precons. Where as this one seems to be underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, Wyleth is a sweet new Commander, but the reprint value for this deck is terrible compared to the other precons.
Ill be honest i wouldve been fine and was hard core expecting him to have kaldra be the upgrade after all it is the best creature ever both printed not and not actually made at the same time ( im refering to the token)
Nah, just being cheap as usual. Granted, these are $20 precons, but when the reprint is significantly worse than the other one and the Zendikar Rising ones. They could have at least upgraded the Manabase for this one
@@jasonkorf7700 it just baffles me like... they're basically strictly worse than ANY etb tapped dual, they could have been anything. it's not even about being cheap, just a really weird decision. whoever built these was on some shit.
@@leress various ways to give indestructible in any color or equipment, Sigarda, host of herons stops edict effects from getting rid of her, its classic.
I agree that the decks themselves I wouldn’t want to play out of the box, but they have cards I want. I want a voltron commander deck and Simic helps with Sea Creature Tribal
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Under "flexible tutors" I totally forgot to add Sunforger, oops! Sunforger is one of the best cards in the deck as it pumps / draws cards off Wyleth, the precon is loaded with tutor targets, and it pairs wonderfully with equip cost reducers like Brass Squire. Sunforger gets even stronger once you add additional cost reducers such as Puresteel Paladin.
Is it not also a "Surprise I win" card? Do you want three of those? (Plus becoming the Arch Enemy of the table once you use it.)
That Kaldra upgrade will be the best $20 I ever spend
These Small Precons have been bombs! I’ve just been buying them and giving them to players at my LGS!
That’s so nice of you
There going to make great gifts too for my friends who are trying to learn magic
@@olddaydreams Thank you! It feels so good to pass on my little bit of good fortune to budding players. I don’t know that I’ll be giving Aesi out in the coming months though as I’m tired of Land decks for the time being. 😂
Dang, friend. You're real cool. I wish these were around when I started magic, because they're a hell of a starting point.
Sneak Attack is dope! I think I swapped out 8 cards for around $30 worth of upgrades, most of which I already had, and it wrecks! Even without upgrading it could hang in most LGS circles
That Kaldra fake out was great 😂
I'm so excited. I've never been this early to a video before
I was almost hoping it was gonna end with kaldra 😂😂
they do say “all good things end with kaldra”
This is probably my favorite of the two decks
yeah because who wants another busted simic commander
This upgrade video really didn't hit as well as past iterations. I love your stuff Tomer, I even built your Gavi upgrade, but this new video feels a bit watered down.
I really liked it when you went over every change in the decks, as it helped me recognize card's synergies and values. Going back to Gavi; your explanation of Ephara made me see the value in those effects for her.
I do realize you have more obligations now running this entire channel though, and I will continue to love and support the content regardless of how it's presented.
Yeah this one was produced a lot faster than before since I have a lot more on my plate, but next precon will have a card for card upgrade explanation.
This precon is great: Card draw, extra combats and solid sunforger package
The first upgrade I would suggest is a Mistveil Plains to recycle you sunforger instants
Kor Cartographer can find it in the deck too.
I'm fairly sure reason the precon has 40 lands is that almost every other precon has had 40 lands. WOTC generally likes to err more on the side of players getting more than enough lands over not getting enough. I also guess that wizards goes for 40 lands with the expectation that players will naturally cut lands when maybe they shouldn't, and a deck going from 40 o 38 is still functional while a deck with 36 going to 34 is going to struggle if it isn't built with that low a land count in mind.
Thoughts on Laccolith Rig? Cheap Aura (budget and mana wise). Allows for political play. Allows Wyleth to be removal for creatures that won't normally enter the fray. Or possibly Delif's Cube (political attacks / repeatable regenerate)
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And here I was just thinking about building a boros aggro deck for centurion. Grabbed the precons as soon as my lgs made them available for preorder :)
Credit were it's due to WotC for these budget-friendly yet interesting commander precons
Tomer that kaldra joke killed me haha
I'm all for kaldra my Wyleth and my godo uses it and there fun to run😈
Uploaded 18 minutes ago, I have failed you Tomer!
Totally buying the other one & jamming all my leftovers from my chulane commander, Tatyova etc, into it :)
now i wait for the simic deck...............lol smart play throwing out boros first and im suprised by the end result of the upgrades looks very solid
But what about Kaldra.
Dang was really hoping wizards was going to have some spicy card adv people wouldnt think as card adv
I'm curious on why no ember cleave. It seems like we would be better suited to put it in than sword of fire and ice. Hexproof deals with bounce/control indestructible deals with most of reds options, ember cleve deals with an opponent likely in one shot.
To me one should focus on giving this hexproof and indestructible. Then on trample and death touch.
Then on getting massive/infect. It feels like you are trying to play far/nice rather than actually trying to kill your opponents. What i mean by this is it feels like your $200 upgrade is mostly a value per turn upgrade but only moves the clock maybe one turn forward towards winning.
I understand that its an on attack trigger so the more you attack the more you draw. With that being said this deck is going to be viewed as a big scary threat like all vultrons are. So playing fair will just get you killed.
As far as win out of no where if you want a jank but brutal way of doing so, world slayer and teferis protection. Although I do not recommend doing that.
In the hypothetical situation that I'm a Kaldra believer and want to assemble it in the deck, which 3 cards should I take out?
Cant wait for the next video!! Aesi was my favorite commander from the set. Love Tatyova, what can i say...
Imo, the Simic one seems to be on par with the Zendikar Rising Precons. Where as this one seems to be underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, Wyleth is a sweet new Commander, but the reprint value for this deck is terrible compared to the other precons.
This looks like great fun :)
So to someone just getting into magic what is the cards missing that u wanted to put in to make it over the 200$ budget?
50 mana ?!?! Sweet god I'm always way below. 34-38 😅
Ill be honest i wouldve been fine and was hard core expecting him to have kaldra be the upgrade after all it is the best creature ever both printed not and not actually made at the same time ( im refering to the token)
Now I want to put Kaldra in all my decks
Will they have them to buy as a whole on MTGO is the question
Going to put wylet in my akiri
Are you also doing guides for the Zendikar Rising precons?
No I've skipped them
Awesome
Hot take: Haunted Cloak is great if you're going tall!
It's fine but not exciting.
Haunted Cloak is good if your commander doesn't already have trample built in.
WAIT they put rupture spire and transguild promenade in a TWO COLOR DECK? Is wotc okay???
Nah, just being cheap as usual. Granted, these are $20 precons, but when the reprint is significantly worse than the other one and the Zendikar Rising ones. They could have at least upgraded the Manabase for this one
@@jasonkorf7700 it just baffles me like... they're basically strictly worse than ANY etb tapped dual, they could have been anything. it's not even about being cheap, just a really weird decision. whoever built these was on some shit.
@@ExKiwi-yw8er Honestly they need to start adding the thriving lands to the precons.
How is Sunforger not listed under the "flexible tutors" section?
My mistake! Definitely an amazing tutor in this deck
This Looks so much better than syr gwyn :_(
And you didn't put Kaldra in? For shame, Tomer, for shame
Have never been a fan of voltron. Maybe due to the high amount of sweeper on my play group.
Sigarda my friend
@@MrCeall Neither one really helps against sweepers.
@@leress various ways to give indestructible in any color or equipment, Sigarda, host of herons stops edict effects from getting rid of her, its classic.
BOROS FOREVER!!!!!
I feel like the two precons have been pretty underwhelming
I agree that the decks themselves I wouldn’t want to play out of the box, but they have cards I want. I want a voltron commander deck and Simic helps with Sea Creature Tribal
Of course they have. These pre con commander decks with the sets replaced the planes walker decks and the intended intro product for new players.
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