"Junior" Job Posts today: Bachelor's in CS + 3-5 years experience in Java, Spring, and Scalable Architecture. 5 years experience in database management. 2 years as a rocket engineer.
And for the junior positions that you SOMEHOW fulfill all those requirements, land the interviews and ACE everything. You still get rejected. 100/100 on the test score - Not good enough. 2.5 years of experience instead of 3 ? -Goodbye, I'm ending the interview at that very moment. Unfortunately, at this stage we have decided to move forward with other applicants whose profile matches better our needs at this time. - Interview went more than amazing and the HR lady herself was confident that I was going to move to the other stage, HM on the other hand didn't think so. Even though I fulfilled every single checkbox. You forgot to use GROUP BY in a SQL pseudo code when using aggregation and you don't have direct experience with SCRUM methodology but every else is PERFECT? -Goodbye, you're not good enough. The interviewer asking you a question that he himself doesn't know the answer to ? Yeah, he's more worthy for the job than you. It's a fcking slaughter house out here
Good points, but still no luck here. 4 internships where I delivered actual products with no hand-holding, and a Computer Programming AAS later and still no luck. My expectations are On-Site, 52k salary, Startup, and still no luck. I love this field, I do it for fun a lot of the time, but to feel like the time and money I spent on this is nullified is such a sucker-punch.
When I was interviewing I looked for a git repository link on their resume. This would help me see the projects they were working on, how often do they commit, do they use detailed commit messages, and other things. The last two individuals I interviewed and hired were fresh out of college or self taught and both turned out to become exceptional software developers, exceptional. They required some mentoring which was fine, I didn't mind, and they learned things they don't teach in college. Great videos!
Teach meeee! I currently work as a cna at a nursing home. But I take the bootcamp course careers, and I chose the program “Frontend software developer “ I’m learning a lot, but I’d love for someone to give me all the insight they have ! Please and thank you !
If your looking for first dev job I would also suggest looking into Professional Services, Customer and Support engineering jobs. They can spring board you into a dev job over time.
I feel like it's kinda the opposite in regards to remote vs in-person. There are TONS more remote possibilities because your scope is basically the entire country vs. your local commuting area. Problem is it doesn't matter. Literally 95% or more of the jobs are senior level. Kinda crazy.
Bachelors in Comp Sci 2 internships Experience in Java, SQL, C++, and HTML Game dev projects People skills Not a single job offer after almost 3 years "You need more experience." "You'd make a great intern." (actual quote) (most interns make minimum wage if they're lucky) "We're only hiring people still in college or graduating this year. You're too old." I've completely given up on this field. There is no hope anywhere. No apprenticeship programs or anything you can do to make money while training for a job either. Im trying to come to peace with learning my 4 years were a waste as I find work in unrelated fields in a job market that's getting worse by the day.
Thanks for the info, I’m doing freelancing atm while I’m applying. I have yet to get a call back. I’m happy with any salary or pay, as long as I can improve myself as a dev. I didn’t know companies would prefer in office workers than remote. It doesn’t matter to me but I’m applying to other states besides my state. I’ll try to prioritize in office jobs. Thank you!
Don't freelance! It's a race to the bottom, and you'll pick up bad habits! The companies who hire freelancers for cheap on upwork aren't large enterprises who think about how to properly run and integrate technology. There was a time when freelancing was lucrative and beneficial. It is not anymore.
Yikes! i feel hopeless man. I have been applying for months and thought of joining Fiverr..it is really a race to the bottom. To make things worse(or better), I'm from a third world country
Also make sure that you build projects that use technologies that your region is hiring in. Being Australian, unfortunately popular great technologies which I like such as React, although in demand and I still do see listed in a lot of developer jobs appear a bit less common than personal unfavourable programming languages and frameworks such as wordpress, php, shopifiy, C#, .NET. Which seems to be more in demand than popular technology stacks like MERN which I believe is more popular in the U.S.A!
Meanwhile, me in Russia... - learned for 4-5 months - had a 15 minute interview - got the offer to work as a "senior" developer - fully remote, pay is pretty good for a junior dev... with some quirks - do tasks expected from at least a middle dev... - architecture and develop all the frontend by myself... can use basically anything I want as long as I achieve the assigned task. - did a lot of unconventional fun stuff (developing a non trivial highly interactive map, while integrating that (direct) js map library into a react project), learned actual reactive programming(using rxjs), architecture and structure patterns, technologies and skills, and also a bunch of geo related knowledge. - around 1 year passed since then - but, unexpectedly, I have a lot of free time to relax or learn. It was a challenge to figure out the structure and architecture of the project, I had a 2 week rewrite of the project at the start(2 months-in point), and a whole almost 2 months one fairly recently(10-12 months-in point). However when it's all done, and in between of them, I work only like 2-3 hours a day on average. - Also at this exact moment, I and one other developer are starting to write a new mobile app project in native android (kotlin jetpack compose), with probably another senior(actually senior, not like me) dev hire. I volunteered to work on it, btw. Why not. - Overall, I am happy with the job and will probably work there for a couple more years, as I still have stuff to learn there. (probably 1-2 years until I have no more things to learn there? idk)
I’m just starting my coding journey and I won’t be discouraged by other peoples experiences. That being said I hope the market for junior lvl devs improve within the the next year or so
Freelancing isnt the option you think it is anymore a lot of the time. I've seen freelance software job sites where people (with substantial experience) are offering their services for what would equate to near minimum wage, so someone trying to break into the field will have a much harder time standing out. Plus in scenarios like that, you will be competing with people internationally who may be able to afford to work for less. Another thing that makes it hard for entry level job seekers is that many of these companies want you to be on-site but not everyone lives within a realistically commutable range of these companies, even the smaller ones. If i dont live within 90 minutes of a city with opportunity, it's even harder to find a job. The smaller companies in more rural areas are still looking for senior level employees and you are even more likely to need connections in those areas if you are entry level.
It's rich to describe companies being hesitant to hire junior devs because they know they're going to shaft them on salary and they'll have to go to another company to earn more, and then act like they're (the companies) not just literally dumber than sand.
Wow. I’ve been trying to recreate myself given the current housing/finance industry. My 20-year career in residential construction financing became worthless. Invested a year in learning the basics. Looks like I’m back to being worthless. Wish I saw this a year ago.
@@UrbanFury12 any experience is work experience. Start on projects and tools that work. That have uses. Something that could be scaled into a company. Its more of proof that you wont break everything
Hi Brain . Thanks for your video, it’s great. I’m a junior fullstack developer and I seek to get hired. Can you hire me ? . I need to keep getting better on job .
"No remote positions" -- should disabled people give up then? (Honest question.) I would accept minimum wage instantly, I am only going for this position because I need a job I can work from home at the entry level, in-person roles are not an option at all. But I don't want to feel like I've wasted hundreds of hours on a skillset that cannot benefit me....
No remote positions was for people that can and do have the option to go into an office. Knowing your situation you have to do your best with what you have. Even if that means only being able to apply for remote positions
The software engineering industry is recovering, because people are taking jobs at mass that they are overqualified for. That's why it's in demand now to have entry level developers that have 3+ years of experience somehow.
Hello I'm from Nigeria and I really know about colding but I don't have money to buy a system so I can be lean on here I hope you can help me sir 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
No matter how long or short time ...your programming you should already feel good enough about yourself! Don't base your value on a corporation or hiring person that doesn't know you!
Everyone and their mama got into coding and even more people have been starting “coding bootcamp” for $6k learn to code in 6 months” .... supply and demand...the market is oversaturated and by tons
Exactly and that's what annoys me about these junior devs that can't find jobs and try and bring everyone down with them. They're either looking for remote only or they just know the classic 'MERN' stack or they don't want to get underpaid.. People need to realise if there is a shortage of positions in your field then you aren't in a position to demand anything, you will need to make sacrifices whether that be going into the office 5 days a week or learning a new backend technology or settling for a lower salary etc. It's like anything - if you're new to a field why would you expect to be on 6 figures within the first day? You need to work towards it and earn it.
As someone who is learning web development now i could agree more! I want an office position to learn from my peers, and I'm willing to take a lower pay if it means getting my foot on the door!
"Junior" Job Posts today: Bachelor's in CS + 3-5 years experience in Java, Spring, and Scalable Architecture.
5 years experience in database management.
2 years as a rocket engineer.
And for the junior positions that you SOMEHOW fulfill all those requirements, land the interviews and ACE everything.
You still get rejected.
100/100 on the test score
- Not good enough.
2.5 years of experience instead of 3 ?
-Goodbye, I'm ending the interview at that very moment.
Unfortunately, at this stage we have decided to move forward with other applicants whose profile matches better our needs at this time.
- Interview went more than amazing and the HR lady herself was confident that I was going to move to the other stage, HM on the other hand didn't think so.
Even though I fulfilled every single checkbox.
You forgot to use GROUP BY in a SQL pseudo code when using aggregation and you don't have direct experience with SCRUM methodology but every else is PERFECT?
-Goodbye, you're not good enough.
The interviewer asking you a question that he himself doesn't know the answer to ? Yeah, he's more worthy for the job than you.
It's a fcking slaughter house out here
Good points, but still no luck here.
4 internships where I delivered actual products with no hand-holding, and a Computer Programming AAS later and still no luck.
My expectations are On-Site, 52k salary, Startup, and still no luck.
I love this field, I do it for fun a lot of the time, but to feel like the time and money I spent on this is nullified is such a sucker-punch.
When I was interviewing I looked for a git repository link on their resume. This would help me see the projects they were working on, how often do they commit, do they use detailed commit messages, and other things.
The last two individuals I interviewed and hired were fresh out of college or self taught and both turned out to become exceptional software developers, exceptional.
They required some mentoring which was fine, I didn't mind, and they learned things they don't teach in college.
Great videos!
Teach meeee! I currently work as a cna at a nursing home. But I take the bootcamp course careers, and I chose the program “Frontend software developer “ I’m learning a lot, but I’d love for someone to give me all the insight they have ! Please and thank you !
If it makes you feel any better, they're not hiring any Senior Software Engineers either
They are.
But at Mid level positions with Senior level requirements for the Junior level pay.
👏
This is the most informative video ive come across and has eased ny anxiety about switching careers. It all makes sense now. Thank you. New sub 🙌🏾
If your looking for first dev job I would also suggest looking into Professional Services, Customer and Support engineering jobs. They can spring board you into a dev job over time.
This is what I was looking for thank you ❤
Hands down the best video on TH-cam about this topic. Informative, precise and to the point. Thank you my Brotha 👊🏾💯
Glad it was helpful!
What editing software do you use if you don’t mind me asking, also mind doing a tutorial?
Hey I use Final Cut Pro. I’m still a beginner at it I feel lol
Thanks for this! I’m not a software developer yet, but I’m learning html, css, and java script. So getting insight about pre interview is great!
Excellent advice!!. Thank you so much!
I feel like it's kinda the opposite in regards to remote vs in-person. There are TONS more remote possibilities because your scope is basically the entire country vs. your local commuting area. Problem is it doesn't matter. Literally 95% or more of the jobs are senior level. Kinda crazy.
Great video thanks!
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What are some examples of math heavy software jobs? Thanks in advance!!
Thanks for sharing this video. I've also been getting those same messages. The 100% remote position as a junior is SUCH a good point!
Thanks Cody
Bachelors in Comp Sci
2 internships
Experience in Java, SQL, C++, and HTML
Game dev projects
People skills
Not a single job offer after almost 3 years
"You need more experience."
"You'd make a great intern." (actual quote) (most interns make minimum wage if they're lucky)
"We're only hiring people still in college or graduating this year. You're too old."
I've completely given up on this field. There is no hope anywhere. No apprenticeship programs or anything you can do to make money while training for a job either. Im trying to come to peace with learning my 4 years were a waste as I find work in unrelated fields in a job market that's getting worse by the day.
Thanks for the info, I’m doing freelancing atm while I’m applying. I have yet to get a call back. I’m happy with any salary or pay, as long as I can improve myself as a dev. I didn’t know companies would prefer in office workers than remote. It doesn’t matter to me but I’m applying to other states besides my state. I’ll try to prioritize in office jobs. Thank you!
How well has the freelancing been working? Where do you source? (I’ve been freelancing for 8 years) I love to talk about this stuff
@@cody_codes_youtubehow to get in contact with you ?
Don't freelance! It's a race to the bottom, and you'll pick up bad habits! The companies who hire freelancers for cheap on upwork aren't large enterprises who think about how to properly run and integrate technology. There was a time when freelancing was lucrative and beneficial. It is not anymore.
Is it better to freelance or find a different industry?
Yikes! i feel hopeless man. I have been applying for months and thought of joining Fiverr..it is really a race to the bottom. To make things worse(or better), I'm from a third world country
@@wicket_gatetry Freelancer app
Also make sure that you build projects that use technologies that your region is hiring in. Being Australian, unfortunately popular great technologies which I like such as React, although in demand and I still do see listed in a lot of developer jobs appear a bit less common than personal unfavourable programming languages and frameworks such as wordpress, php, shopifiy, C#, .NET. Which seems to be more in demand than popular technology stacks like MERN which I believe is more popular in the U.S.A!
Meanwhile, me in Russia...
- learned for 4-5 months
- had a 15 minute interview
- got the offer to work as a "senior" developer
- fully remote, pay is pretty good for a junior dev... with some quirks
- do tasks expected from at least a middle dev...
- architecture and develop all the frontend by myself... can use basically anything I want as long as I achieve the assigned task.
- did a lot of unconventional fun stuff (developing a non trivial highly interactive map, while integrating that (direct) js map library into a react project), learned actual reactive programming(using rxjs), architecture and structure patterns, technologies and skills, and also a bunch of geo related knowledge.
- around 1 year passed since then
- but, unexpectedly, I have a lot of free time to relax or learn. It was a challenge to figure out the structure and architecture of the project, I had a 2 week rewrite of the project at the start(2 months-in point), and a whole almost 2 months one fairly recently(10-12 months-in point). However when it's all done, and in between of them, I work only like 2-3 hours a day on average.
- Also at this exact moment, I and one other developer are starting to write a new mobile app project in native android (kotlin jetpack compose), with probably another senior(actually senior, not like me) dev hire. I volunteered to work on it, btw. Why not.
- Overall, I am happy with the job and will probably work there for a couple more years, as I still have stuff to learn there. (probably 1-2 years until I have no more things to learn there? idk)
I’m just starting my coding journey and I won’t be discouraged by other peoples experiences. That being said I hope the market for junior lvl devs improve within the the next year or so
I would seriously get a CDL license just in case. Or skills in HVAC/Plumbing/Airframe-Powerplant. Good look in tech!
New sub after this, TY🙂
Freelancing isnt the option you think it is anymore a lot of the time. I've seen freelance software job sites where people (with substantial experience) are offering their services for what would equate to near minimum wage, so someone trying to break into the field will have a much harder time standing out. Plus in scenarios like that, you will be competing with people internationally who may be able to afford to work for less.
Another thing that makes it hard for entry level job seekers is that many of these companies want you to be on-site but not everyone lives within a realistically commutable range of these companies, even the smaller ones. If i dont live within 90 minutes of a city with opportunity, it's even harder to find a job. The smaller companies in more rural areas are still looking for senior level employees and you are even more likely to need connections in those areas if you are entry level.
It's rich to describe companies being hesitant to hire junior devs because they know they're going to shaft them on salary and they'll have to go to another company to earn more, and then act like they're (the companies) not just literally dumber than sand.
Also whenever anyone says they're underpaid but they didn't care they should have to explain in great detail how they paid their bills.
great video
No remote positions? What about PWDs, specifically orthopedic disabilities?
This is my issue as well. It seems this industry is just not for us, based on the advice in this video.
Wow. I’ve been trying to recreate myself given the current housing/finance industry. My 20-year career in residential construction financing became worthless.
Invested a year in learning the basics. Looks like I’m back to being worthless. Wish I saw this a year ago.
In life life learned its best to have more than one tool in the bag.
Hey at least it's just one year. I was stupid enough to go get a bachelor's degree.
@@UrbanFury12 not entirely useless if you find work
@@drunkspartan711 I get interviews but I don't have enough work experience to get hired.
@@UrbanFury12 any experience is work experience. Start on projects and tools that work. That have uses. Something that could be scaled into a company. Its more of proof that you wont break everything
Hi Brain .
Thanks for your video, it’s great.
I’m a junior fullstack developer and I seek to get hired. Can you hire me ? .
I need to keep getting better on job .
Does Data Engineer fall in this?
Absolutely
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"No remote positions" -- should disabled people give up then? (Honest question.) I would accept minimum wage instantly, I am only going for this position because I need a job I can work from home at the entry level, in-person roles are not an option at all. But I don't want to feel like I've wasted hundreds of hours on a skillset that cannot benefit me....
No remote positions was for people that can and do have the option to go into an office. Knowing your situation you have to do your best with what you have. Even if that means only being able to apply for remote positions
The software engineering industry is recovering, because people are taking jobs at mass that they are overqualified for. That's why it's in demand now to have entry level developers that have 3+ years of experience somehow.
Hello I'm from Nigeria and I really know about colding but I don't have money to buy a system so I can be lean on here I hope you can help me sir 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
No matter how long you program, you will never feel good enough.
Facts
No matter how long or short time ...your programming you should already feel good enough about yourself! Don't base your value on a corporation or hiring person that doesn't know you!
Everyone and their mama got into coding and even more people have been starting “coding bootcamp” for $6k learn to code in 6 months” .... supply and demand...the market is oversaturated and by tons
lots of boot camp the instructors are not well versed in the coding languages be-careful !!!
One tip: Do not move to a city with no tech jobs. You will be doomed.
You should know that without a vendor your lacking haverzt is the best
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I lived in this kinda of city: result, never get a job and changed industry for the next 15 years. Now I regret so bad
Wow!!!
Maybe it’s because you’re looking on indeed lol
Interesting
Deploy, deploy, deploy
Exactly and that's what annoys me about these junior devs that can't find jobs and try and bring everyone down with them. They're either looking for remote only or they just know the classic 'MERN' stack or they don't want to get underpaid..
People need to realise if there is a shortage of positions in your field then you aren't in a position to demand anything, you will need to make sacrifices whether that be going into the office 5 days a week or learning a new backend technology or settling for a lower salary etc. It's like anything - if you're new to a field why would you expect to be on 6 figures within the first day? You need to work towards it and earn it.
100% agree. I didn’t and couldn’t ask for anything special for my first job.
As someone who is learning web development now i could agree more! I want an office position to learn from my peers, and I'm willing to take a lower pay if it means getting my foot on the door!
Also, being willing to move will help. You might have to live somewhere whack to get those first years of experience.
yikes
I don't wanna be chasing rats and roaches for the rest of my life either. 😂