WHY WAS THIS RETURNED? 2015 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 'BAD' Engine Teardown
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Today we dig into a 5.7L Hemi from a 2015 Dodge Ram 2500. This was an engine that was sold at a local auto salvage yard and then returned as defective. Unfortunately I didn't get any details like mileage, or reason for return. These are pretty expensive engines (Around 3500-4000 dollars) which generally means there's a high demand for them. Lets figure out what went wrong with this one.
The 5.7 Hemi had a few iterations throughout the years but this is one of the latest offerings making 383hp and 400ft lbs of torque. Overall I think these engines are fairly reliable but certain operating environments and quickly lead to problems. They do run quite well and aren't particular hard to work on which is nice.
Why am I doing this? I own a full service auto salvage yard in the Saint Louis Missouri area called Importapart. Part of our model includes buying core or bad engines and dismantling them to salvage the good parts from while recycling the rest. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those who do.
I hope you enjoyed this video, as always, I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
Catch you on the next one!
-Eric
😂😂🙈 now i know why you were so sweaty. Not from watching cops
Cuz’ I know that cops doesn’t start till 4!
your mom watches cops. 🤣
@@deplorablelibertarianffffffffffffffffffffffff
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@@deplorablelibertarian lol but you definitely touched my drum set.
The “Whoever invented the red locking tabs, I hope McDonald’s gets your order wrong” had me lol!
Worst curse ever!
That is a true classic..... I was cracking up.... What a horrible curse, omg... That's the worst, isn't it?? You get home, or you get back to work, you open that bag, and it's not your order.... And the sad trombone plays.... Ugh, I hate that....
fr tho those locking tabs are hell esp if you break them from trying to crack them open
I mustv'e invented these.
Wouldn't a worse curse be that i hope chick-fil-a gets your order wrong
I see you dislike the red lock tabs as much as I do. Your preparation for dipstick removal skit was hilarious!
Did you see a few videos back when he used the forklift to remove the dipstick tube?
@@jimrossabrena7955 I'm sure I watched it. Remembering it is another story
@@fuse8052how do you remember if you dislike the red lock tabs then Genius.
Not a skit sadly😢
@@alberteinstein3078once you've experienced them on a plug that already has impossible access you never forget
A man hits a woman with his car. Who's fault is it?
The man. I mean, why was he driving in the kitchen?
Sandwich drive through?
I work on ambulances for my local fire dept., all of the ambulances are 6.4 hemi powered. On average, at 60k miles they wipe a lobe off the cam. Every ambulance has had at least one engine replacement or been rebuilt. These engines despise idle hours because of low idle oil pressure.
I heard it's because they designed the cam to high and does not get enough oil to lube it at low rpm?
Low idle oil pressure? They use 0W40 and have fast idle capability right? How can they have low idle oil pressure?
Because of idling horror stories I don't idle at all. Always moving if my car is on. But I have heard 2016 and up hemis got a lot better with this issue. Also helps of you don't have MDS. My car is a manual so no MDS.
@@johnlanser1951 The engine in this vid didn't have MDS, it has nothing to do with it.
Which just shows they're a shitty engine, because the LA and RB series V8s from before them didn't have this problem despite the cam being in the same exact spot.....nor did the old hemis from the 1950s when V8s in general were still pretty new to MOPAR.
This is also not a new occurrence for chrysler these days. Anyone remember the 2.7 V6s in the Sebrings and Intrepids around the turn of the 21st and how they would fail catastrophically due to poor oiling regardless of maintenance history?
Love your sense of humour Eric.. The combination of mild slapstick, self deprecation and Ironic Sarcasm is just brilliant, and works to a global audience. Wishing you all the success in the world for an excellent channel.
Popeye’s is the worst by far when it come to accuracy if the truth be known, but McDonald’s isn’t very good either. I don’t think I’ve ever but one time asked for an extra cup of just ice and not gotten ice water instead. How smurt you gotta be?
Cams on these are really hard to pull when they get wiped like this. The cam bearings might not LOOK worn, but if you really check, they're almost always warped. Thankfully the block has enough strength there that it doesn't really matter. Despite everything it's been through, this motor's definitely a very good builder as-is. Probably doesn't even need to go 010. I'd estimate mileage at 150-200k or above. I don't think they drove it much after the lifter failed fully.
Also, I'd hang onto that crank. It's very serviceable, and despite being the cast one? 4893356AA is on permanent 6+ week backorder, and I don't know any source for them at all.
Why no cams available? Who makes em?
@@jamesmedina2062cams are available, cranks aren't.
Bad design for idel running. Vary bad maintenance ruined this engine. Change oil every 3k and save your engine.
Gold medal for dipstick removal!
The only thing missing was some 80s pop-rock and the training montage would have been complete!
Saturday engine tear down time after working on cars all day. Thanks for all the great videos.
Eric, your weekend engine tear down videos are the best part of You Tube. “I hope McDonald’s gets your order wrong”😄😄😄
I'm here for the teardowns... And you great style... Enjoy this sooooo much
Eric, when you show a Hemi, you should flip the head over and compare it to a Chevy LS head so that people understand the difference between the Stellantis Hemi and the General Motors LS heads. I bet most people don't understand the difference, though the pictures would show how it is night and day....
I believe the HEMI was designed under Daimler Chrysler well before Stalantis bought Chrysler.
@@erikkovacs3097
Definitely a Chrysler Hemi.
Today's HEMIs aren't really true HEMIs.
The heads have been swapped for a more traditional look.
So comparing an LS with one of these 5.7 heads, will look rather similar.
Want a TRUE HEMI, source out an Original.
@@hughmann1537bruh,not even close to the same as an ls.heart shaped combustion chamber,inline valves vs. the hemi,oval combustion chamber, opposed valves,not to mention the dual rocker shafts
@regisphilbinsscrotum6631 ...I was talking about the combustion chamber itself. They're not true HEMIs in the 3rd gens. ...more of a marketing ruse. So, calm down.
Clear proof that training pays off!! Nicely done my friend !! 😂
Note the 2019 date on the oil filter - this engine was essentially destroyed and pulled only four years into its life.
That would’ve been the last time the oil was changed, could’ve ran on the same oil and filter for a year or more judging by the varnish throughout the motor, it probably only saw two or three oil changes it’s entire service life. Not good for any engine but the HEMIs absolutely don’t tolerate it at all.
@@PhOeNiXpIoLeindeed. I doubt it was just long distance commuter miles either which would've been better.
Mc D’s will get his order wrong, why should he be any different than everyone else!
Can you please take apart some of the variable valve timing phasers? It would be neat to see how they look inside.
They explode into pieces once the one screw holding the spring in place is taken off...
This looks like a classic case of high idle time on a Hemi. If you avoid idling the engine, the lifter issues are mostly non-existent. As someone else rightly pointed out, low oil pressure on the top end at idle is the culprit. There is a "fix" that is preventative. The oil pump from the 6.2L Hemi can be used to generate higher oil pressure as the gear has more teeth to generate more pressure across the RPM range. It is also a direct bolt on swap. Otherwise the best course of action is to avoid idle. Personally, I have this exact engine in my 2015 Ram 1500 Limited. I have not done the oil pump swap, but I only let the engine warm up for no more than 5min before I start driving, and I often shut it off in drive-thrus or anything longer than a stop light. Hope this helps any owners out there!
How does Chrysler not consider idle oiling in the design of a truck engine? Truly mind boggling.
Just look at the name on the truck...
Must be miserable having to worry about that
@@tampontim69 I hear ya. I can say that for me, it isnt too bad. I just turn off the key anytime Im going to be sitting for somewhere more than just a couple of minutes. The thing is that I would be doing this anyway to save gas, so it really isnt that big of a deal.
You must be ahhd or have major anxiety.... I would not tolerate having to worry about that... Not acceptable. You are far too tolerant5 of bad engineering.
Glad you prepped for the dipstick removal Olympic event!
This engine is a perfect example of why you don’t just put a cam and lifters in these things when they flatten the cam. It scatters metal *everywhere* in the engine. Back when these engines were still relatively new and the cam/lifter failures weren’t as well known, the shop I worked at would put cams and lifters in these (and LS’s). They all either had repeat cam/lifter or bearing failures within a year or 2 later. Imagine dumping a couple table spoons of powdered hardened steel into your oil fill tube. That’s basically what happens when the cam and lifters fail.
So then what's the proper way to handle it when the cam gets flattened? Complete tear down and rebuild?
@@Dowell318 Chrysler recommends replacing the entire engine.
@@TheNugler Of course they do....
@@nexxusty If your cam and lifter got ground down there is a lot of metal shavings in there that have done damage
Recently discovered the channel and have been loving the episode binge through all your engine teardowns as they are super interesting and you add some great dry humor to the experience. Would love to see a 3.8L V6 from one of the New Edge Mustangs.
id like to see a 4.6 2v from the mustang
That was savage wishing the wrong mc Donald's order 😂😭 love you videos man, this is what I truly look forward to on my saturdays
There's nothing I like more than having a cup of coffee and watching you doing engine autopsy, however being the old fat and retired and watching you a young man do calisthenics in the middle of it, well I almost choked on my breakfast. That was quite a humorous add-on to this video. Keep up the good work! Your videos are my Sunday morning ritual as my wife and I enjoy breakfast.
WE WANT MALICE!
In the palace?
Actually rather see tear downs like this. That way I know what junk engines to stay away from.
Malice in the palace
Just started, but as an owner of a 14 charger rt I predict cam and lifter issues
Edit:
15:42 called it 😂
26:40 called it 😂😂
You know what to do with yours though right?
@snek9353 oh yeah I know! I'm planning on a supercharger next year and those are definitely the things getting replaced
@@robwebster1098 Assuming you mean lifters, not what I was getting at, use a 5W30 with more ZDDP, check your oil level often, and up your idle RPM with AC on.
Did gm and ram source the lifters from the same company? It seems like they have the same problems?
Thanks for your nice channel Eric. You're a cool dude and I really enjoy watching these vids. Greets from Scandinavia!
Maybe that engine needs a volume oil 🛢 pump.
That Miata's windshield looks distressingly like it was broken by the driver's head.
I'm still learning watching videos on YT. Can someone explain why idling on the Miata or any other engines is BAD?
Or airbag..
@@LouieRey-n1yGenerally long idle does not provide adequate lubrication to the upper cylinders, camshafts etc etc.
mmmm hmmm, that looks like a head print to me... :(
@@LouieRey-n1y in addition to what roving cyclops said, the engines tend to get pretty hot at idle.
I have 4 vehicles with 5.7 Hemi's. 2016 Challenger 40k miles no hemi tick runs perfect, 2006 ram 1500 280k miles run it very hard little lacking on maintenance but has no hemi tick and runs perfect. 2005 300 with 170k no tick runs perfect. Just bought a 2012 ram 1500 sport with 217k checked out good with Autel scanner hoping to have same luck.
One thing that is remarkable is my Chrysler 300 will easily get 20-21 mpg. My Ram 1500 same engine struggles to get 12. The 300 only weighs a few hundred pounds less so why the difference..???
12:14 I don't think you notice how the left most cylinder didn't move, when the others did move.😮😂
Because the pistons move at different speeds. They "dwell" at the top & bottom of each stroke..Think about it.
Can't even have a reliable Hemi in Ohio 😮💨
I miss my old bug. It had exactly one wire running back to the engine.
I was thinking the same thing haha. Not the bug part, but that harness seems like a nightmare of problems
3 if you count the starter.
🤣🤣🤣😊
Maybe the guy who invented the red locking tabs, instead of getting the McNuggets he ordered from McDonald’s he’ll get…. Piston McNuggets.
That was probably the loosest engine on this channel recently...Good to know how to take mine apart if the time came.
The cam oiling issue stuff is complete BS, the cause of the lifter issues is a combination of things, but that is not one of them.
I have have one of these and have a bunch research on the issue. If you have one it's all about the oil, for the lifter issue do these 7 things:
1. Check your oil level often, these engines stock consume oil through the poor PCV design as seen in this video. If you don't check the oil level between changes it'll get too low before the next change.
2. Don't use 5W20, use a 5W30, it won't hurt anything, the SRT engines spec 0W40 and use the same parts. 5W20 is just too thin when it's hot.
3. Use an oil or an additive with more ZDDP, ZDDP is oil ingredient that prevents this kind of damage, it's largely been removed from modern oil formulations because in the long run it can damage the catalytic converter.
5. Do your oil changes of course.
6. Don't let the oil get too hot, stock most 5.7 engines didn't have engine oil coolers, and this one was no different. The combination of 5W20 and overly hot oil is a killer. Add a cooler if you can, the larger engines and the HD applications had coolers.
7. Related to #6 is idling, idling to run the AC on a hot day is going to really cook the oil. If you can change the tune to up idle RPM with the AC on.
Bonus unrelated to the cam/lifters. Add an oil catch can to deal with the PCV issue, this will keep the oil out of the intake to prevent what you saw here with all the oil buildup in the intake ports and chambers.
I've read several instances where owners said they waited to do oil changes when the computer told them it was due. That's 10k miles. That's twice as long an oil change interval than it should be. I suspect people who do that, never check their oil level at all.
I would love to see a Volkswagen W 12 (from a pheaton not the Bentley motor)
Or the W8 from a Passat.
Our 2019 6.4L plow truck has 9,000 miles and the cam is failing. Idles all the time.
Grab a beer sit back and enjoy the show.
Air driven impacts should be mandatory if editing is going to speed up the playback in that section of the video when they are in use, lol. Sounds like laser beam pulses in a video game. “PEW!! PEW!! PEW!!” 🤣🤣🤣
Another great tear down. Always look forward to these. I can see Mrs. B has been making you go to the gym to train for the dip stick removal...😂
Chrysler most likely make the 5.7's and 6.4's with an oil pump just good enough to last 100k miles before blowing up in order to keep people buying another vehicle every few years. Splash lubrication is a thing of the 60's. no modern v configuration engine is relaying on crankshaft run off to lubricate the cam. in my opinion the reason they fail is due to a sub-par oil pump that does not provide enough oil flow (volume) at idle. upgrading to a hellcat or Melling high VOLUME (not pressure) oil pump would most likely be the best way to prevent camshaft failure... great video btw. always interesting to see how these engines are made.
Great work sir. Love watching these, I find these tear downs to be super satisfying.
Any tips for extending the life of hemi's? Mine is from 2020 with 36K so far.
One thing I’ve noticed about almost every tear down….. evidence of using cheap, unbranded gas and cheap oil filters.
I love that I don't have to hear about some stupid solar generator, or "black-coffee-rifle-super-ops-coffee" company, or god knows what else. Sponsorships are lame and Eric doesn't need that crap.
Your photography of the ports is getting much better. I have never seen a cam that bad. Another great video. Thank you.
Saw a few Chev 305 's with the cams made of cheese instead of iron back in the late 70's early 80's. They were that bad or worse. But this one was real bad all right! Cheers!
Friggin RED LOCK TABS I have to take it a little further than you did; to whoever invented the red lock tab connector, I hope you step on a lego.
The hemi is a good engine but emission/economy regulations kill them. To keep idle emissions down, they're idling pretty low down to 500-600 rpm often, which is really low. To keep it idling that low or help it idle that low, the oil pressure at idle is under 20 psi. This wouldn't be a problem in MOST engines, but the hemi also mounts the camshaft really high up in the block (this is for performance and a great design for a pushrod engine) if you look at the heads the valves are across from each other instead of next to like say an LS, that's great for performance but that means the camshaft and more importantly lifters don't have gravity helping get oil all the way down on where lifter rides the cam compared to a lower in the block arrangement. The MDS system only kills them because it usually makes them burn oil, and the MDS system likes to starve the rest of the engine when it's not running. It's poor implementation.
To make a good reliable hemi: Delete MDS (with plugs and cam and lifters not software), add a higher volume oil pump (not high pressure) increase idle to 750 or about 25psi oil pressure (software is the proper way but you can also do some janky stuff). The downside is you lose about 4-5mpg which i think is about a thousand dollars in gas yearly. I have several customers who i rebuilt their motors for and they're well past where the hemi tick would have showed up. One of them has a work truck that has 340k km since my motor was swapped in.
5mpg loss on an already inefficient engine is an immense loss in efficiency
Some of this is right, some is wrong.
There's no lack of oil to the lifters, the LS has the same high cam and lifter angle. And it has nothing to do with MDS. If you pay attention this engine doesn't have MDS. Also if these theories were true then these issues would be present in the older hemi engines, but didn't really start until 2011. The pre-09 hemis even have a smaller oil pump.
Low idle oil pressure and RPM is an issue, but the cause to focus on is the 5W20 oil spec and the lack of an oil cooler. Hot 5W20 combined with a low idle RPM is a killer. Put in 5W30, keep the oil from overheating, and change some idle RPM settings a little and they have fantastic idle oil pressure. The key idle setting to change is with the AC on, idling with AC on means hot oil.
@@snek9353you have come to the same conclusion as me. The oil weights our to thin. LS and the new Ford 7.3L pushrod engines have the same lifter problems all running Thin oil and long intervals.
I like your recommendations.
@@alexgrindnshine2522 Thanks, there's also a big one I didn't mention there. Run an oil with more ZDDP(zinc), ZDDP is a key ingredient in preventing this kind of damage and modern oils have less of it.
They took out the ZDDP because it can damage catalytic converters if the oil is burned and makes it into the exhaust. So instead of doing crazy things like IDK not burning oil. They took out the ZDDP so all our engines wear out sooner.
I personally use Redline High Performance 0W30 which is not only a great oil but has a lot of ZDDP. However it's pretty pricey stuff so not for everyone. But we should all do what we can to get the ZDDP we need and there's other ways to get it.
i have a 1996 thunderbird with the 4.6, and a 1993 f150 with the 5.8, both them idle really low like around 600rpm, but i never had a problem with either of them, and they're old high millage engines now, and never wiped out a camshaft like the dodges do.
Oiling system design malfunction.
Look at chevy small block. Designed correctly in 1953. Still going.
Those steel head gaskets will slice you to the bone if you’re careless about removing them. I learned that life lesson last week. You’re never too old to learn something new 😂.
Oow wow wow 😂
All chrysler products have always been known for bad cam wear. Ive seen the cam bearings wear completely into the block at which point when they do that the engine is worthless then and unlike GM and ford there is no oil drain back thru the valley so the camshaft actually sarves for oil
I have waited all week for this video. THANK YOU for feeding my addiction.
Somewhere in the 2000’s the industry completely forgot how to make decent cams and lifters. Flat tappet, roller, aftermarket, OEM, LS, HEMI….. they all fail way more than a good old 1990s 5.2/5.9 Magnum roller cam and lifter set or a 1960s/70s flat tappet SRT from any engine (almost never, except that one run of smallblock Chevies in the late 70s with a batch of bad cams)
One could speculate all day on what causes these cam wipeouts on the Hemi. I personally think its due to the zinc being removed from motor oil. The newer Silverado trucks are doing this also.
GM trucks wipe out cams due to faulty lifter design. Nothing to do with oil on GM trucks
It's oil pressure. At idle and low RPMs it doesn't get enough oil to the cams and lifters.
Some people swap out the oil pump for the higher pressure one from the hellcat Hemi. Seems to solve it.
Crap design. Chrysler's gonna Chrysler.
Sad... Lifters should outlast engines! Make AMERICAN MADE GREAT AGAIN!
FINALLY!!!
Wow! These Dodge Ram truck engines only have 4 bolt mains, I would expect them to have 6 bolt mains just like the Ford V8s.
They obviously don't need it.
Iron block beats aluminum block.
That's one of the dumbest comments I've ever read.
this was probably one of the most chaotic teardowns yet! loved it.
What? This engine turned freely and all bearings were in OK shape for the most part. Where exactly did you see the chaos? The 2 failed lifters ?
@@DL101ca not talking about the engine genius.
Hey did you notice how the heads look like they have the faces of 4 of those women who put the plates into their lower lip to enlarge them. Just look at the 15:15 mark.
Ahh the Hemi Tick strikes again! It looked like a good core that could be rebuildable since they are a dying breed. Poorly maintained but it is a good buildable engine to someone.
You should do a tear down of a 6.4 Hemi out of a ram 2500
My chrysler 300c had the 5.7. Dropped a valve seat and piston ate it...
Eric and Blue your the only channel I can watch 30mins!
Keep up the great work!
The condition is giving "maintenance is for wimps" truck guy owned this engine
I enjoyed your Jerry Lewis routine.
The was not changed very often in that engine. I have around a million miles on 5.7 hemis, VERY HARD MILES. These engines are extremely durable if properly maintained.
I agree. We’ve owned two Hemis. Best V8s we’ve owned. 200k on our current one. It doesn’t tick and runs like new.
I have a 2004 5.7. I bought it with 187k. I'm now at 273k. Runs like a top. Maintainable if you change your oil and give her some cleaner every once in a while. The moral of the story is that youdo your maintenance.
Keep up with your cooling system maintenance, the risk with those early hemis is dropping seats from overheating them.
What the hell is a cleaner? I have a 20 year old Toyota V6 - never touch the engine.
Exactly the same as my 2011 hemi. I always maintained mine. I ended up rebuiding the top with comp cam, springs, push rods and lifters. It still runs very strong. I believe its caused the quality of lifter bearings used. BTW there was no lack of oil on\in my lifters upon removal during the rebuild. What's the odds that they all fail the same exact way, oil changed every 3k or not? If lack of oil was the cause it would happen on other lifters too. That engine was the same cylinder #5 as mine and ive seen many more fail in the same. Chrysler owes us hemi owners some doe.
A regular viewer of yours, I tell folks this is an educational channel,
Would like to see an old "F" head pulled apart,,, Ive rebuild a few over the years and they are interestingly different, Yet the same as you know,
F-head, as in an old Jeep hurricane?
Bought a 2017 Toyota Sienna for my son that was used to transfer workers to various jobsites. Had the complete maintenance records of oil changes not exceeding 3,000 miles. 280,000 on the van. Not a click in the engine, uses no oil!!!
Our 21 year old Sienna has never needed oil.
Y’know, I hear a lot of bad stuff about the 5.7 Hemi. I have a 2003 Hemi with 300,000 miles on my original engine. I really truly think it’s attributed to routine maintenance and perhaps a stroke of luck, she’s been used like every Hemi should, loud and proud. But she still trucks along perfectly.
I have a 06 hemi with 240,000 miles the car got totaled mind you it’s been tuned hot beat the snot out of it we pulled the motor out in a different 300c and she still lives with over 280,000 hard beaten miles no issues …. Yet I believe when they are babied that’s when they have issues just saying
My 2003 Hemi has 270,000 orginal motor and trans. An i don't baby it either, been pulling a 7000lb travel trailer for the last 3 year all around united states. Its been to 38 states and a few multible times.
When they went to MDS system (multiple displacement system, or the cylinder deactivation) is when they turned to sh*t. Chevrolet has same issues with the system. Difference is the redesigned hemi oiling system that accommodates this system has issues with starving some parts of the engine. Then lifters fail. When the lifters fail (on hemi its the needle bearings in the lifter roller) its pure oil starvation. So older Hemi's have a much better track record. Its the transmissions in the older ones that were the problem. Engines lasted fine.
@@rodx5571 exactly, with the new oil desperation it starves the cam at idle and the lifters start to chew it up causing the Hemi tick, it’s fucking stupid that they would ruin such a good engine with the mds
@@rodx5571 i would agree, some people say because you idle to much. What is concider lots of idle time, if your in traffic? I live in Souther California so you know i'm spending lots of time in traffic, i have been towing a travel trailer and hooking and unhooking trailer i just let it idle plus for simple stops or if wife runs into stores i let it idle. This is before i even heard of people saying don't idle. 2003 Hemi (No MDS) 270,000 oringinal miles on motor and trans. But also on the trans when towing i'll lock out OD so its not constantly hunting for gears.
This video, has just convinced me to not by a Dodge truck. I'll just rebuild my 91 Chevy 350 and keep going. Best of luck putting that engine back together and THANKS AGAIN !
Dumb. New Chevy is junk!
"What do you think of the water pump?" "Big fan."
I thought I posted a reply, but now I don't see it.
I've seen a video where someone claims to have figured out the fix for this. Throw a Hellcat oil pump on it. It only fits 2010 and newer 5.7. The Hellcat pump has a higher volume at idle. I put a high pressure aftermarket pump on mine, because my oil pressure ranged from 16 psi hot at idle, to 49 psi at high RPM. Now I get 65 psi when it's cold at idle, revs up to 95 psi cold. But hot at iddle can still make it's way down to 16 psi at idle. After changing cam and lifters, the cheap timing chains will be fine for a couple months, then start to rattle when economy shuts off cylinders. The OE chain is $345, so I need your timing chain. LOL
I guess the OE chains don't stretch like the cheaper ones. I wish I saved the one I took off my engine when I changed the cam and lifters. I only had one lifter on cylinder 5 go bad. But I've had to change the timing chain a few times since. I shift manually on my Charger now, so the rattle isn't heard. One day I will break down and buy the OE timing chain to put in. After everything else is fixed. My driveway is full of vehicles I need to fix. I've been learning about one time use nuts on suspension. Lock tight thread locker isn't good enough for that. LOL
28:35 - Eric, you need to get some sort of basket that you can hang from the engine in front of the cylinders to catch the flying pistons, either an individual basket that you can change from cylinder to cylinder or one that'll cover all of them. I know, I know, it removes the entertainment factor that is watching pistons flying out of the cylinders in slow motion but it can prevent damage when the pistons are good, like in this case. It's just an idea. 🙂
Or maybe one of those moving blankets from HF on the floor for a soft landing.
Was that your biggest fan in the video?
A - I dunno if I happen to like the dipstick skits or the water pump skits more. I think those are both forever my favorites.
B - Seen it a few times. Although I'm no mopar tech. I've just seen it from few of my friends with 2500's and 1500's.
Day number two...
Find a blown VR6 vw engine and tear it down.
I’m here for the malice
I hope McDonald's gets your order wrong lol nice love it.
This episode actually made this grumpy guy laugh out loud a couple times. Thank you!!! Good stuff as always sir 😂😂😂😂
Good, straightforward approach to any teardown.. and good humor... from a 30yr Master Tech who still learns from everyone
The dipstick segment was hilarious! Love your videos Eric, been watching for a little while now!
Another common engine that you have no idea about why it was returned?
Ok, let's go 😁
I would like to thank you Eric for getting around to one of these as I drive a ‘14 Ram 1500 with one of these engines, though as I am totally aware of the issue, I take much better care of mine. Mobil 1 full synthetic 5W20 and a Wix 57060XP every ~9000km’s(5600mi) and the old filter cut open afterwards. The factory recommended oil change interval is about 15000km’s(9300mi). It’s nice to see how the worn cam lobes and ruined lifters translates to metal in the pan, which then translates to bearing damage.
My truck has about 187000km’s(116000mi) on it now. It has had a mild tick from the engine for about the last 60000-80000km’s(37000-50000mi). The tick is almost inaudible when the truck is hot, and fully inaudible off of idle. The tick came on all at once but hasn’t gotten any worse in that time, and the truck runs fine and has never had a CEL or a misfire. A lifter failure of this sort wouldn’t take that long to manifest IMO. A few oil changes ago I pulled the oil pan and windage tray(easy on a RWD truck) to inspect the camshaft and lifter wheels as best I could, I saw nothing of note, and cleaning the oil pan turned up
Put in some Redline oil, the tick will likely go away.
I put in my 6.4 10w50 for the last 60.000km(as soon as the warrenty got out), its now on 180.000km, charger rt, and it doesn't have any weird sound, and i don't leave the car idle or anything like that. Not to mention that i drive it like i stole it.
@@snek9353 will take that into consideration
Yeah, my 2018 Ram 1500 manual says do not go over 10,000 miles for an oil change under any circumstances. Interestingly, it drops down to 8,000 miles for 2500 and 3500. Hopefully owners realize that's with full synthethic oil and not conventional, but for some reason this isn't mentioned in the manual.
In any case, looks like the 3rd gen Hemi's with MDS (circa '05 and later) definitely need to be taken care of on oil changes. Kind of crazy though that some can go 250-300K miles without this problem and some get it by ~50K miles. Makes one wonder if QA/QC wasn't controlled so tight by the cam manufacturer, doesn't it??
@@trainshot17I appreciate those details. I don't know the detail but have been hearing that Mobil 1 dropped quality in recent years, so I don't find that surprising. I used to be a big fan. As for the Pennzoil full synthetic that FCA dealers have been using for years, I don't have any concern with that... or should I bump it up to their Platinum product?
I do think this issue isn't as common as the internet makes it seem to be. I'm thinking it's a QA/QC issue from the cam supplier.
I love watching Adam Sandler tear apart engines. It's better than most crap on TV these days.
Looks more like the Adam Yauch haha
Kind of redemption for the last 5.7 HEMI on this channel, they’re actually pretty stout all considering, seems like the suffer a lot from shotty maintenance more than anything. Thanks for this video 😊
Yep, out of all the late Hemi engines, the 5.7 seems to be the trooper. I’ve seen some with a lot of mileage (200,000 plus) and still running great.
Idle time kills them. The fleet vehicles that sit an idle all day don't make it past 80k miles.
The cylinder deactivation 5.7 are totally garbage. The 5.7 with regular lifters and rods are stout enough for a post 1990s engine
@@P7777-u7ri agrea my 2003 Hemi is before the deactivation and its still going strong with 270,000 oringinal miles and the last 3 years pulling a 7000lb. Travel trailer. Thats kinda one reason im waiting for the new Hurricane motor, i don't care for the 5.7 deactivation.
@@Giovanni_Adventureslook up truck central on here.... he has over 225k on his hemi 2019. Im at 72k with my 19
0:40 I know why, M O P A R
I have 425,000 miles on the same hemi... never been apart.
I’ve never seen that kind of mileage out of these engines. What’s your secret?
Maybe he doesn't idle it alot
@@thomassabia5750one time a buddy came to lunch with me. I went to start the truck and said oh look- it's already running. 7:30-12:10 idling.
That is impressive.
Hard metal glitter in the oil doesn't help the lifters stay up overnight. Bet the oil filter ran bypassed in the past after it loaded up.
Thank you for tearing down this 5.7. I have a 2019; runs strong as an ox for now, but who knows what the future holds? Having seen the tear-down, I have a pretty good idea of what to expect should I need to dig into mine.
18 here after 15 years of 6.2s mostly
Preventing this issue is all about the oil, 5w30, zddp, and check the level often.
@@snek9353the 5.7L uses 5W20 😂
@@jmcghouly4515 That's what they tell you to put in yes, but it's not what's best.
@@snek9353idk bro, sounds like it’s just asking for that hemi tick, I think they recommend the lower viscosity oil to prevent the lifters from chewing themselves apart. I guess if you don’t have Mds that’s fine but anyone with Mds should probably just use the recommended oil.
Human neglect ruined this engine !!!
I have a 2017 5.7 with 290,000 km and I stick to 7500km oil changes and she's been a dream to own!
Synthetic? 5w 20?
Enjoy the fuel bills dude?
Nice information video, my wife and I own a 2020 Dodge Ram 2500 with a 5.4 hemi with 120+ K on it, you said it best, you have to stay on top change the oil 3-5 k miles. Had to replace the rear main at 98k,the transmission had to come out so changed the seals, gasket and filter done it all. Saved the best for last, bought the truck new 3yrs 36k, 36,086k the water pump goes out 1,928 $ out of pocket.
Yup, my water pump went out right after the warranty expired as well.
Does a 5.4 hemi exist? 😒 really?
Exhaust manifolds never come apart in the truck that easy. 😢
the white gelatinous goop in the water pump is blue devil
Man, love your videios; I always learn alot. Keep up the great work brother.
I've done lots of snow plowing in a 2500 with this engine. It never let me down.
Now the drive train....that's a totally different story. 🙄
I feel like all I hear about with Big Three truck guys is transmission issues. Some people go from Dodge to GM to Ford, back to Dodge over and over again chasing transmission issues
@@coliimusic - Plus, i had rear diff issues.
@@christopherweise438 Pinion bearing?
@@stevlagrantbulldogs - Yes, and the infamous Mopar C-clips.
The 2500 is a semi-float with C-clips? I F'n despise C-clips.