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Osho had a mission. It always amuses me when I hear people pontificating on him. He cracked the concrete of the Kali Yuga mind to enable consciousness to emerge. He succeeded. He wasn’t concerned with how it looked. Thank god.
Of course you love him, because he poured out loving awareness. However, OSHO was a bit twisted and he puts hooks into his followers to love him even more. He had sex with a lot of his female followers, he said it was all love, and it was, but it was a twisted love. We all have twists and quirks, it’s just important to acknowledge them.
I really loved Osho and the community of people around his teachings. The documentary really didn't dive into how beautiful the community was, or even how powerful Osho's teachings were. The documentary focused on a small group of people who engaged in that stuff with Ma Anand Shiela. Because you have to remember the whole movement was GLOBAL. They didn't share one single Satsung or mediation of his. It is what it is.
Absolutely. I came to him through his books and some video cassettes. I was blown away. I met some people from a small local community in Puerto Rico and never met Osho in person. Everybody was very sweet and dedicated to meditation and learning. I didn't hear about the Oregon corruption until many years after, so I wasn't really affected by that.
I fully agree - the documentary was well done, as an entertainment, but wasn't about Osho or his teaching. I find Adyashanti likeable... and as someone mentioned, it seems that he formed an opinion about Osho as a teacher just from watching the documentary... implying that he has not read an Osho book, or listened to an Osho discourse, or done an Osho meditation. Seems odd that someone of his stature hasn't investigated a little more than he has about someone like Osho. Also, the title is a little click-baity, because he only talked about Osho for a moment in this whole video. Ah, well.
@@bansibuckley1711 I’m sure Adyshanti took one look at the glazed look in OSHO’s eyes and felt as I did that there was something sinister hiding there. Ady talks about how the love of OSHO fundamentally has hooks. I’m sure OSHO has a lot of great teachings, but I personally am creeped out by OSHO. I creep myself out sometimes... less and less, though, as I grow out of the childish desires in my short term thinking mind.
@@emmanuelweinman9673 - I'd be very careful to not project on someone else's experience. Neither of us knows what Adi felt looking at a video of Osho. I do hear you that you felt creeped out. Fair enough. He very well may not be a good fit for you. I can tell you from my own experience of 30 years of being with Osho that I have gotten a ton of value from him - more than any other teacher, and I've studied a lot of teachers and programs. I don't aim to convince you to feel any different than you do, only to offer a view from long time experience, which for some will hold more credence than someone's assessment, even Adi's, from a documentary that wasn't even about Osho and his teachings... for what it's worth. As for you creeping yourself out, I don't know what to say to that...
Something I really admire about Adya is his embrace of our humanity, understanding that knowing our true nature as pure awareness does not exclude our humanity but it embraces it all. Our humanity isn't something to be pushed away in pursuit of the divine, but it is to be assimilated into a deeper understanding of our divine nature.
You are humanity and everything is in yourself!! A small effort in observation of yourself will bring you to your true nature which is reality!! Don't hear these poeple!! They are objects only in your mind!! Hear yourself , you are your own Sadguru!!
@@dwarkarudradev5144 Yeah, I'm in agreement bud. I'm not sure who you're telling me not to hear, I think Adya would share this sentiment and he's a wonderful teacher in my opinion. There's nothing wrong with learning from one another, we should help to remind each other of our true nature, like you're trying to do here. Each person is equally an expression of reality.
@@markhenry2726 Hear yourself in the silence!! No need of an external guru!! GURU means remover of darkness!! You are totally equipped for knowing the truth!! All knowledge acquired is dumping of the mind!! You are above the mind!! A small effort is necessary on your side!!
some people gave their power to osho - I got my power and found myself - so everyone had different experiences - but I did come to pune when he had left his body - yes so many sanyassins missed the point but coming in later in life and knowing I wanted to bring his teachings to be in the world and also cleared out all my catholic guilt and shame - I will remain forever grateful when he said "Paru just be yourself"
Love that he recognises that enlightenment doesn't make you infallible. Relates to the developmental models ken wilber talks about: you can be highly developed in some areas and not in others
He is integral (and more) as well as enlightened. Kind of rare. So, he actualized waking up, growing up, cleaning up (it appears, as he explains, that ha hadn't too much suffering and karma and shadow, at least, as much as a human can) and showing up. I definitevely take him as a role model to look up to. I also like his lineage very much.
I think the distinction that Wilber (and Coombs) make between moving towards enlightenment as a human being (structure-stage development) vs. moving towards transcendent existential enlightenment (state-stage development) is one of the more important contributions and distinctions to be understood for those on the spiritual path. The conflating of the two has been and continues to be so very destructive in so many instances.
@@greggfiller1 these would be dimensionally different; 1. being fully developed in our humanity (emotionally mature) 2. transcending that full-blown humanity Chunks of unresolved human stuff would impede us to transcend, and chunks of insight at the level of spirituality would be co-opted by our (not fully developed) human level. We need honest inquiry into our motives and actions. Also acknowledge where we feel stuck and continuously ward off the tendency to 'quick-fix' a disturbing situation (the urge for biological equilibrium). Only real facts can help us here.
Thank you. A lot of very important stuff here, especially the facets-of-a-diamond metaphor and the stuff that follows that. The unbiased, balanced comments regarding Osho are great too.
Adyashanti ♥️ you have taught me so much, particularly about being spiritual on a human level and integration. It’s always better to be it than to say it, how true.
Osho was a mischievous master... I love ❤️ him. Even Gurdjieff was a mischievous master. Enlightenment doesn't mean that one can't be a rascal. But even if Truth expresses itself into a charming rascal , I'm going to appreciate and love it. Adyashanti has a gentle personality while Osho had a very charming and attractive personality. He had a charm which was out of this world.
Perfect.... Thanks Adya. It is unfortunate we're not more aware of this as we have sooooooo many distortions and often mostly unconscious ideas around this whole idea of awakening and enlightenment. I know if I'd had a few of those more conscious when I came into the field of illumined minds, as much as I am eternally grateful for those brothers and what was offered through them, it may have saved me a lot of time and pain and suffering. Then again, I was very unconscious and unprepared and probably still am, so who knows!!!!
@@mihadono you affirm his position. Osho expressed the reality of existence and demonstrated how the human is incapable of judgement. Call it what you must but I see that as the quintessential wisdom for humans to reflect on continuously.
Although I don't listen to Adyashanti regularly, I have heard him speak before, and until this interview, I accepted that he is enlightened. I am so surprised to see that he isn't. It is impossible for an enlightened person to not get Osho. Impossible!
Mi and Osho is a private, and doesn’t matter what people talk, as is their experience truth his on mind and emotions, mi and Osho is so intimate in my heart that what can I say about it, nothing,....I have experience that enlightenment is not perfection as is the mind judging
Once I understood energy and how mythology across the globe is used to describe energy... It becomes very easy to speak the language the person needs, whether word or action. If I understand this , then the responsibility is on me to bridge the energy.
I love this image of shrowing it on the teacher - called projection. I found out that with my teacher that this is impossible. I mean, I can throw nothing on him. No chocolate!
Thanks Adya. This pairs nicely with some of the work Dan Hoffman is doing with his studies around the nature of reality if you have a scientific bent, check it out.
And why no, this is another idea o concept, the workship is right depending of the individual and everybody is in a different place, you are mind talking, and I like Adyasanti.....
It may be just me but I feel adya is not a human soul but rather a paladin soul I really get a sense of that As if he is just loving human beings He came to just love them I just love that
I have yet to meet a devotee of Osho who was grounded, self-aware at any real level, or committed to serving humanity....some were blatantly narcissistic.
I'm very relieved to hear I'm not the only one with memory issues. Like... it's probably pseudo-dementia. It's a problem. So I'm relieved I don't have to stress about fixing it so much, I feel like it makes it worse.
The term "enlightenment" is thrown about, without any definition of it, at least in this video. I think it would have been good for him to define it given his explanation of how it doesn't necessarily translate to personal integrity. From my point of view, if enlightenment means transcending the self, embodying a kind of emptiness, then it makes perfect sense that the self kind of "sits there" as it is, with all of its fallibility, while the mind contemplates nothingness. That nothingness is quite addictive in itself, yet ultimately the person must function from their whole egoistic self in this world. What is perceived in enlightenment is merely a flash of beauty and freedom, while the egoistic personality learns "the hard way" working through it's karmic issues that cannot be avoided if one is to truly evolve as a human being, not merely "transcend" the self.
Maybe the connection between people comes from vibration, gravity, energy and frequency. Hug feels good because it passes on good energy. Maybe part of the human enlightenment is to understand the connection to others, to the universe. Enlightenment is not delusion, God is.
Osho in his books and tapes across the board has this aggressive note towards the world. Like the world (at least human civilization) is fundamentally wrong. The rest of the teaching is how beautiful it could have been. This bitter sweet "we could have been so happy but the world will not let us".
No. Enlightenment is not a permanent and complete thing for most. Who knows if Netflix doc is even that accurate. From what I’ve heard there were bad apples in Oshos compound who took advantage of his popularity and did bad things with it. Inevitably the leader gets blamed. Who knows? Adya even said “I wasn’t there”, but wanted to let people know that having the enlightenment experience doesn’t make you better and perfect all of a sudden.
I love what J Krishnamurti told Osho. Osho told J.K he reached enlightenment. J.K told him can you hold on to it? J.K was trying to show Osho enlightenment is not the point. Responsibility is the point. Being able to respond is responsibility. Most people are just learning how to be accountable. Awaking. No guru or yogi can get past their own intent and biology.
Like when j Krishnamurti was screwing his secretaries wife while telling everyone he was celibate or beyond sex. The secretary was celibate to be more like J Krishnamurti Haha
Osho's like the Grateful Dead of gurus. You know what the deadhead said when the drugs wore off? "Christ, what's this awful music." Adya can be a bit self-indulgent, but I respect that overall he means well, and that he's not banging out his followers.
You are judging true you mind, is marvellous that people keep talking judging him, yes hi was very big and as hi say you never stop, hi play and hi move the world🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is speaking relatively. When we are abiding in awareness (when awareness is abiding itself), the actions that flow out of that state are “responsible”, conscious action, relatively speaking. To awaken, to see the truth of reality, is also to understand that re-identification can occur at any moment, and therefore there is this a natural vigilance that comes with that.
Sri adya sir have you been in india ....... I haven’t heard you for a very long period but what I have makes me feel there is a lot of Indian way of thinking in it ....would love to know God bless you
WHY, is the interview voice so badly echoed here. Please oh Please do some study on how to produce these interviews. I love Adyashant and would love to hear what he is saying. Whe live in 2021 now and all the information regarding producing these kind of presentations are freely available . Let get a bit more worthy of the reproduction qualites. Clean up your iinterviewer voice track. All it really takes is some drapes, a few pillows, or a good piece of thick material hung on the wals. This will Improve the and maximize the your sound quality emensly. It will stop the bounce of the "bare walls around the interview."
I suppose the spiritual celebrity deathmatch carried on by followers of whatever teacher predates modern sports culture. Can we at least point to specific "plays", if you will? Add to the mix the element of the attention economy and the fact that those dynamics are of course at play in the comments section of TH-cam, which is a form of social media then it is just as fun as the old Jerry Springer show.
It was a school, with all the challenges and traps and tests... In this sense, it was a PERFECT school. I know a few people personally who got enlightened there. Because the circumstances were perfect for raising self-awareness. Osho was a Master of situations. He was creating numerous situations, which allowed people to wake up. "Mess" is what is easily seen with the ordinary eye. You need a bit of maturity to see a diamond in muddy waters. In the same way as this whole world is a complete mess! There is no doubt about it. But... this mess is perfectly "designed" (by God by the way) to bring us back home. And some people find clarity and then rejoice and love this world, see every bit of it as sacred... while the majority is overcome by fears, incessantly consume and create horror stories and is constantly busy finding demons. That's why it is funny and a bit sad to read all these childish judgements here.
@@louisar4227 That's what spiritual people learn to perfection - going round and round without ever addressing the issue or looking at something. I've written my comment not to start a philosophical discussion or a linguistic contest but to share another view, to add essential information and ... to set a doubt in a default conviction.
Osho had a problem with the western societies. He hated and mocked them. So he wasn't completely free from that and that caused his death too (he was poisoned during his jailtime..).
He presents as the total opposite of "gurus" like Osho, Sadhguru, Mooji, even Eckhart Tolle. The first 3 whom I consider to be 100% grifter conmen creeps, and nothing more. They all 4 come of as extremely pretentious, and very much inviting extreme worship. Where as he is very firm to earth, real, unpretentious, fully human, not allowing to be made a guru. How very refreshing.
Its sad for Adya to base his opinions for Osho according to a Netflix documentary. Netflix is just pure propaganda.. Its also sad that Adya doesn't have the clarity to see that and watches Netflix. As him self says he might be enlightened but still naive on other stuff.. And I do love Adya and his teachings... But Osho is way bigger..
What do you base yourself on Osho being bigger?I'm pretty sure Adya knew about Osho before Netflix..as did many other people.Like i said above,Osho was a jerk in certain "dimensions" but a good teacher just the same
I was thinking the samething...plus disappoints me that he watches it netflix a company that embraces movies like cuties that uses kids in a way they shouldnt
Man like if this guy can even try to understand Osho. His igo would not allow him to go near Osho. Osho can show him that his enlightenment is just a delusion.
What a ridiculous comment. Nisargadatta Maharaj smoked cigarettes up ‘til he died. Alan Watts was an alcoholic. Osho seemed every egoic to me. I read one of his books, well read 15 pages or so and very judgemental.
Strange because I’ve heard from a few spiritual practitioners that Osho was a fake and actually evil. I’ve heard many many of his talks and I just can’t see that. The doc doesn’t show he actually did much wrong but his people surrounding him were very problematic. I’m sure he wasn’t perfect at all and liked sex, power and jewels but his intention showed he could live without all that, I think. Of course he may have not lived a fully “spiritual” life...who knows!
I don’t know enough but it seems anyone that is a threat to governments and the system tends to get hatchet jobs done on them. Shame even wise people blindly believe propaganda machines.
I like how these people think that we will be surprise that they are like the rest of us. He watches movies OMG. He is more boring than a "normal" person
@@jilliancoxall6357 but you don't find it pathetic that this guy thinks that he is so special. Anyway you don't have to, this kind of people make me angry so I write this kind of comment I admit it.
@@AS-ty3pf If you watched his videos and read his books then it would become totally clear that he doesn't think he's special at all, exactly the opposite. He teaches that absolutely everyone has the very same capacity to become aware of their true and infinite self - a source of eternal joy. It is his mission to bring people to that point of self awareness. I have seen him interacting with people at his retreats and seminars and he treats everyone with the same kindness and respect , He is a genuinely compassionate human being.
@@jilliancoxall6357 I don't think I am willing to waste time on this one, to be honest, I watched few of his videos to see that he has no depth. Of course he is nice to people who come to him why would anyone want to be with him otherwise. His ego is maybe subtle but bigger than the ego of a normal person like many of those western gurus who think because they had some kind of an experience while meditating they are now enlightened and can teach enlightenment to others. Look at him in this video, he had no humbleness talking about a guy like Osho he thinks he can judge the whole phenomenon of this exceptional man by watching a documentary. In his mind he is thinking he is doing a much better job than Osho which is laughable. One hour of one of the meditations Osho created is much better that a whole day seminar of this guy. It has been always risky to be with a real master of the like of Osho, being with this guy has no risk and also no benefit.
@@AS-ty3pf I share your opinion. I found it quite sobering to hear Adyashanti on this interview. I feel like scales have dropped off my eyes and I am having an 'awakening'. How on earth could anyone mistake this guy as enlightened? How can an enlightened being not recognize another in Osho? I'm shocked 'awake'! Although I haven't listened much to him, I just accepted that maybe he is enlightened or something, at the very least 'awakened'. In the spirit of Osho, not just 'believing' what he said, I dare observe myself that a good marker of an enlightened being is that they do NOT write. How ironic, no true master has written in the past. No master has taught either. I dont have words, I don't who is crazy here.🙏🏽💜
The only perfection in this statements is the Nonsense justification for the lack of enlightenment. There are true gurus and false gurus Enlightened and ignorant Just because various teachers are famous or charismatic and like a parrot can repeat the words of Indian scriptures does not necessarily equal liberation. What is the measure by which one can assess if someone is enlighten. Just because you admire someone it does not mean they have achieved the final state. Perhaps rather than listening to self proclaimed enlightened people we should study the ancient doctrines as the concept of enlightenment is clearly defined. Finally, I might add that There is another category and it is called charlatan, and the history has been filled with it.
The interviewer is so inept and so unprofessional as if he's never given interviews before it really sucks the way that he finishes sentences for the person he is interviewing it's just a common theme among people who do interviews today it's rude and it just sucks.
Adyashanti, I love and respect you. But be very careful when talking about Osho. He was a complete master and much more. He was a very rare soul and is in the ranks of the Buddha himself.
Haha and you missed the message in the video afterall. The worship comes out strongly in your message Osho is not worth more than an any other. Get over it
@@goprosoccermg5716 The word worth was derived when servants like me and you had the rare privilege of witnessing the golden shit that came out of what we call Osho. His one shit can save the human race infinite times over, what to say about his presence? It is incomprehensible. And what is there to get over. I am not hurdling obstacles. I am going all the way home, to the big blue sky.OSSSHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM MAD FOR YOU YAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Aum Shanti🙏❤🕊
Yes, that 'animal' eating is precisely why such 'teachers' discount the Master Osho... It opens up a Pandora's box if one embraces parts of a pointing. Osho was known for criticizing meat eating as 'unaesthetic'. But because he was the most impartial, unorthodox, true master he said that meat eating did not mean one could not become a Buddha, as both Christ and Guatama the Buddha continued eating meat after enlightenment. One thing I love about Osho is that he openly acknowledged other Master, including his very 'different' contemporary, J Krisnamurti.💜🙏🏽
He sexually and financially exploited his followers, pursuing hedonism and luxury and promoting a grandiose self-image. If you think he nevertheless was truly wise and good, I don't know what to say to you. You can do better than this!
@@chaveth3382 He's not a contemporary figure we can judge as easily as Osho. Semi-mythological. But the traditions tend to link enlightenment with being morally better than most people... so not a self-serving prick like Osho. There's nothing in the story/history of the Buddha saying he enriched himself, exploited others or the like. On the contrary, his love of truth made him abandon riches and an entire kingdom.
Osho had a mission. It always amuses me when I hear people pontificating on him. He cracked the concrete of the Kali Yuga mind to enable consciousness to emerge. He succeeded. He wasn’t concerned with how it looked. Thank god.
Precisely!
Absolutely true . Look at the ever of collective awakening of our day, Osho , is part of it .
dope perspective. thanks for sharing!
I still love OSHO . I became a spiritual person just because of OSHO .❤️❤️❤️
You should
Of course you love him, because he poured out loving awareness. However, OSHO was a bit twisted and he puts hooks into his followers to love him even more. He had sex with a lot of his female followers, he said it was all love, and it was, but it was a twisted love. We all have twists and quirks, it’s just important to acknowledge them.
that's what ups, osho did drop some jewels too
great subject about osho, adyashanti dropped jewels again in a simple way. namaste.
I really loved Osho and the community of people around his teachings. The documentary really didn't dive into how beautiful the community was, or even how powerful Osho's teachings were. The documentary focused on a small group of people who engaged in that stuff with Ma Anand Shiela. Because you have to remember the whole movement was GLOBAL. They didn't share one single Satsung or mediation of his. It is what it is.
Absolutely. I came to him through his books and some video cassettes. I was blown away. I met some people from a small local community in Puerto Rico and never met Osho in person. Everybody was very sweet and dedicated to meditation and learning. I didn't hear about the Oregon corruption until many years after, so I wasn't really affected by that.
I fully agree - the documentary was well done, as an entertainment, but wasn't about Osho or his teaching. I find Adyashanti likeable... and as someone mentioned, it seems that he formed an opinion about Osho as a teacher just from watching the documentary... implying that he has not read an Osho book, or listened to an Osho discourse, or done an Osho meditation. Seems odd that someone of his stature hasn't investigated a little more than he has about someone like Osho.
Also, the title is a little click-baity, because he only talked about Osho for a moment in this whole video. Ah, well.
@@bansibuckley1711 I’m sure Adyshanti took one look at the glazed look in OSHO’s eyes and felt as I did that there was something sinister hiding there. Ady talks about how the love of OSHO fundamentally has hooks. I’m sure OSHO has a lot of great teachings, but I personally am creeped out by OSHO. I creep myself out sometimes... less and less, though, as I grow out of the childish desires in my short term thinking mind.
@@emmanuelweinman9673 - I'd be very careful to not project on someone else's experience. Neither of us knows what Adi felt looking at a video of Osho. I do hear you that you felt creeped out. Fair enough. He very well may not be a good fit for you. I can tell you from my own experience of 30 years of being with Osho that I have gotten a ton of value from him - more than any other teacher, and I've studied a lot of teachers and programs. I don't aim to convince you to feel any different than you do, only to offer a view from long time experience, which for some will hold more credence than someone's assessment, even Adi's, from a documentary that wasn't even about Osho and his teachings... for what it's worth.
As for you creeping yourself out, I don't know what to say to that...
@@bansibuckley1711 what did Osho actually give you as a spiritual seeker? Other than information and love you can get hooked on.
Something I really admire about Adya is his embrace of our humanity, understanding that knowing our true nature as pure awareness does not exclude our humanity but it embraces it all. Our humanity isn't something to be pushed away in pursuit of the divine, but it is to be assimilated into a deeper understanding of our divine nature.
You are humanity and everything is in yourself!! A small effort in observation of yourself will bring you to your true nature which is reality!! Don't hear these poeple!! They are objects only in your mind!! Hear yourself , you are your own Sadguru!!
@@dwarkarudradev5144 Yeah, I'm in agreement bud. I'm not sure who you're telling me not to hear, I think Adya would share this sentiment and he's a wonderful teacher in my opinion. There's nothing wrong with learning from one another, we should help to remind each other of our true nature, like you're trying to do here. Each person is equally an expression of reality.
@@markhenry2726 Hear yourself in the silence!! No need of an external guru!! GURU means remover of darkness!! You are totally equipped for knowing the truth!! All knowledge acquired is dumping of the mind!! You are above the mind!! A small effort is necessary on your side!!
Great comment Mark
some people gave their power to osho - I got my power and found myself - so everyone had different experiences - but I did come to pune when he had left his body - yes so many sanyassins missed the point but coming in later in life and knowing I wanted to bring his teachings to be in the world and also cleared out all my catholic guilt and shame - I will remain forever grateful when he said "Paru just be yourself"
Love that he recognises that enlightenment doesn't make you infallible. Relates to the developmental models ken wilber talks about: you can be highly developed in some areas and not in others
He is integral (and more) as well as enlightened. Kind of rare.
So, he actualized waking up, growing up, cleaning up (it appears, as he explains, that ha hadn't too much suffering and karma and shadow, at least, as much as a human can) and showing up.
I definitevely take him as a role model to look up to. I also like his lineage very much.
I think the distinction that Wilber (and Coombs) make between moving towards enlightenment as a human being (structure-stage development) vs. moving towards transcendent existential enlightenment (state-stage development) is one of the more important contributions and distinctions to be understood for those on the spiritual path. The conflating of the two has been and continues to be so very destructive in so many instances.
Yeah it is okay to have flaws. We live in a polarized realm. So that sounds about right
@@greggfiller1 That's interesting. Would you be so kind to elaborate on that distinction? How are the two different developments defined?
@@greggfiller1 these would be dimensionally different;
1. being fully developed in our humanity (emotionally mature)
2. transcending that full-blown humanity
Chunks of unresolved human stuff would impede us to transcend,
and chunks of insight at the level of spirituality would be co-opted by our (not fully developed) human level.
We need honest inquiry into our motives and actions. Also acknowledge where we feel stuck and continuously ward off the tendency to 'quick-fix' a disturbing situation (the urge for biological equilibrium).
Only real facts can help us here.
Relief!! I dreaded watching this! But after: what a relief! Judge for your self
I could hear Adya speak for days
i can too! namaste
Thank you. A lot of very important stuff here, especially the facets-of-a-diamond metaphor and the stuff that follows that. The unbiased, balanced comments regarding Osho are great too.
Adyashanti ♥️ you have taught me so much, particularly about being spiritual on a human level and integration. It’s always better to be it than to say it, how true.
Osho was a mischievous master... I love ❤️ him. Even Gurdjieff was a mischievous master. Enlightenment doesn't mean that one can't be a rascal. But even if Truth expresses itself into a charming rascal , I'm going to appreciate and love it. Adyashanti has a gentle personality while Osho had a very charming and attractive personality. He had a charm which was out of this world.
I agree!
Thanks for this amazing sharing about real humanity, honesty, enlightenment, responsibility.
Wonderful clear grounded honest perspective 🌹🙏🏼
This was a great interview. I appreciate the warmth Adya brings to viewers even from this platform. Like an embrace from an old friend.
What a great guy. Just living and learning
Perfect.... Thanks Adya. It is unfortunate we're not more aware of this as we have sooooooo many distortions and often mostly unconscious ideas around this whole idea of awakening and enlightenment. I know if I'd had a few of those more conscious when I came into the field of illumined minds, as much as I am eternally grateful for those brothers and what was offered through them, it may have saved me a lot of time and pain and suffering. Then again, I was very unconscious and unprepared and probably still am, so who knows!!!!
This is one of the most important things i have ever seen. Thank you.
The best way to experience America (the land) is through the perspective of a Native.
Wow. This is exactly where i been so confused. Thank you so much for this video
Beautiful answer.
Maybe my favorite video ever!
His eyes are dancing lights ✨✨✨
Osho was one of greatest masters to walk on this earth!
bollocks
@@mihadono you affirm his position. Osho expressed the reality of existence and demonstrated how the human is incapable of judgement. Call it what you must but I see that as the quintessential wisdom for humans to reflect on continuously.
Although I don't listen to Adyashanti regularly, I have heard him speak before, and until this interview, I accepted that he is enlightened. I am so surprised to see that he isn't. It is impossible for an enlightened person to not get Osho. Impossible!
@@dabeezkneez8716 he plays the game for money. Cant blame him.
@@dabeezkneez8716 Not all enlightened people are Masters or understand mastery the same way.
wonderfully clear and helpful
I can't remember what I watch on Netflix either :)
Mi and Osho is a private, and doesn’t matter what people talk, as is their experience truth his on mind and emotions, mi and Osho is so intimate in my heart that what can I say about it, nothing,....I have experience that enlightenment is not perfection as is the mind judging
Once I understood energy and how mythology across the globe is used to describe energy... It becomes very easy to speak the language the person needs, whether word or action. If I understand this , then the responsibility is on me to bridge the energy.
I love this image of shrowing it on the teacher - called projection. I found out that with my teacher that this is impossible. I mean, I can throw nothing on him. No chocolate!
This part I liked when hi talk about her grad-mum
Love Adyashanti.
The funny thing is that the number of facets is infinite.
Thanks Adya. This pairs nicely with some of the work Dan Hoffman is doing with his studies around the nature of reality if you have a scientific bent, check it out.
Good conversation.
And why no, this is another idea o concept, the workship is right depending of the individual and everybody is in a different place, you are mind talking, and I like Adyasanti.....
You can not kill enligment person !!!perfection mens power
Yes
love
I agree with what he says about Holland :)
My grandmother was from Holland and she was very playful and joyful, at the same time, a super hard worker.
Love Adya..hope you doing fine💕
It may be just me but I feel adya is not a human soul but rather a paladin soul
I really get a sense of that
As if he is just loving human beings
He came to just love them
I just love that
True! There is some special energy in Amsterdam. (I live not in Amsterdam)
I have yet to meet a devotee of Osho who was grounded, self-aware at any real level, or committed to serving humanity....some were blatantly narcissistic.
well you cant have meet many
Many of those who actually got the message eventually went their own way: Kiran and Tony Parsons come to mind.
My understanding was that Osho went to the US to inoculate it against cultism. He succeeded to a large extent at that time.
I'm very relieved to hear I'm not the only one with memory issues. Like... it's probably pseudo-dementia. It's a problem. So I'm relieved I don't have to stress about fixing it so much, I feel like it makes it worse.
20:40 he looks at the camera and you can feel seen ❤ beautiful
yes...❤❤❤
The term "enlightenment" is thrown about, without any definition of it, at least in this video. I think it would have been good for him to define it given his explanation of how it doesn't necessarily translate to personal integrity. From my point of view, if enlightenment means transcending the self, embodying a kind of emptiness, then it makes perfect sense that the self kind of "sits there" as it is, with all of its fallibility, while the mind contemplates nothingness. That nothingness is quite addictive in itself, yet ultimately the person must function from their whole egoistic self in this world. What is perceived in enlightenment is merely a flash of beauty and freedom, while the egoistic personality learns "the hard way" working through it's karmic issues that cannot be avoided if one is to truly evolve as a human being, not merely "transcend" the self.
The title is slightly misleading. Adya mentions Osho put doesn't really go in depth, and why should he, then he carries on being Adyashanti
Maybe the connection between people comes from vibration, gravity, energy and frequency. Hug feels good because it passes on good energy. Maybe part of the human enlightenment is to understand the connection to others, to the universe. Enlightenment is not delusion, God is.
STAGE RED/AMBER GURU OSHO teaching the POST MODERN GREEN YOUNGSTER ENLIGHTENMENT AND NON DUALITY....INTEGRAL SPIRITUALITY....
Osho in his books and tapes across the board has this aggressive note towards the world. Like the world (at least human civilization) is fundamentally wrong. The rest of the teaching is how beautiful it could have been. This bitter sweet "we could have been so happy but the world will not let us".
I relate to his bad memory, pointless me watching anything interesting, I have terrible recall. A.D.D in the dreamscape?
In other words, one may still remain a jerk even though he has become enlightened.
For a second there I thought you were talking about Adya. 😅
@@SarahDale111 I was referring to Osho lol
@@Mrrickyboy41 Yes...I read your comment before he started talking about Osho. 😁
No. Enlightenment is not a permanent and complete thing for most. Who knows if Netflix doc is even that accurate. From what I’ve heard there were bad apples in Oshos compound who took advantage of his popularity and did bad things with it. Inevitably the leader gets blamed. Who knows? Adya even said “I wasn’t there”, but wanted to let people know that having the enlightenment experience doesn’t make you better and perfect all of a sudden.
you can not comment anything about enlightens untill u r not enlightened. its kinda similar like blind person talk about light
Source please?
th-cam.com/video/M86s1dDQlhs/w-d-xo.html
I love what J Krishnamurti told Osho.
Osho told J.K he reached enlightenment. J.K told him can you hold on to it?
J.K was trying to show Osho enlightenment is not the point. Responsibility is the point. Being able to respond is responsibility.
Most people are just learning how to be accountable. Awaking.
No guru or yogi can get past their own intent and biology.
Dont know if anyone needed to tell osho that enlightenment is beyond all concepts.
Like when j Krishnamurti was screwing his secretaries wife while telling everyone he was celibate or beyond sex. The secretary was celibate to be more like J Krishnamurti Haha
Osho's like the Grateful Dead of gurus. You know what the deadhead said when the drugs wore off? "Christ, what's this awful music."
Adya can be a bit self-indulgent, but I respect that overall he means well, and that he's not banging out his followers.
What about Yogananda?
Gurdjieff: being-partkdolg-duty .I assume the center word was meant to make it unfamiliar.
Well, you said attached, so called enlightened being can not be attached... little crazy maybe yes😉 attached no...🍀
You are judging true you mind, is marvellous that people keep talking judging him, yes hi was very big and as hi say you never stop, hi play and hi move the world🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enlightenment and responsibility ? For whom ? If the person disappears then who is supposed to be responsible ?
you are right however so far so the deluded/ego person is there responsibility is there too.
The role you're dealt
He is speaking relatively. When we are abiding in awareness (when awareness is abiding itself), the actions that flow out of that state are “responsible”, conscious action, relatively speaking. To awaken, to see the truth of reality, is also to understand that re-identification can occur at any moment, and therefore there is this a natural vigilance that comes with that.
@@louisar4227 You could be a good lawyer of spirituality..
You know well the blah blah..
just empty words..
blah blah blah..
@@louisar4227 I found the last sentence in particular to be helpful and clarifying, thank you.
Sri adya sir have you been in india ....... I haven’t heard you for a very long period but what I have makes me feel there is a lot of Indian way of thinking in it ....would love to know
God bless you
I should have said “I haven’t been listening to you for a very long time “
Yes, Adya's teaching is in alignment with the same truth of Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj and Anandamayi Ma 🙏☮
WHY, is the interview voice so badly echoed here. Please oh Please do some study on how to produce these interviews. I love Adyashant and would love to hear what he is saying. Whe live in 2021 now and all the information regarding producing these kind of presentations are freely available . Let get a bit more worthy of the reproduction qualites. Clean up your iinterviewer voice track.
All it really takes is some drapes, a few pillows, or a good piece of thick material hung on the wals. This will Improve the and maximize the your sound quality emensly. It will stop the bounce of the "bare walls around the interview."
I suppose the spiritual celebrity deathmatch carried on by followers of whatever teacher predates modern sports culture. Can we at least point to specific "plays", if you will? Add to the mix the element of the attention economy and the fact that those dynamics are of course at play in the comments section of TH-cam, which is a form of social media then it is just as fun as the old Jerry Springer show.
It was a school, with all the challenges and traps and tests... In this sense, it was a PERFECT school. I know a few people personally who got enlightened there. Because the circumstances were perfect for raising self-awareness. Osho was a Master of situations. He was creating numerous situations, which allowed people to wake up. "Mess" is what is easily seen with the ordinary eye. You need a bit of maturity to see a diamond in muddy waters. In the same way as this whole world is a complete mess! There is no doubt about it. But... this mess is perfectly "designed" (by God by the way) to bring us back home. And some people find clarity and then rejoice and love this world, see every bit of it as sacred... while the majority is overcome by fears, incessantly consume and create horror stories and is constantly busy finding demons. That's why it is funny and a bit sad to read all these childish judgements here.
But wouldn’t the “judgments” also be part of the perfect design you speak of? And isn’t calling them “childish” a judgment as well?
@@louisar4227 That's what spiritual people learn to perfection - going round and round without ever addressing the issue or looking at something. I've written my comment not to start a philosophical discussion or a linguistic contest but to share another view, to add essential information and ... to set a doubt in a default conviction.
Osho had a problem with the western societies. He hated and mocked them. So he wasn't completely free from that and that caused his death too (he was poisoned during his jailtime..).
different times
Why is he so red ?
He presents as the total opposite of "gurus" like Osho, Sadhguru, Mooji, even Eckhart Tolle. The first 3 whom I consider to be 100% grifter conmen creeps, and nothing more. They all 4 come of as extremely pretentious, and very much inviting extreme worship. Where as he is very firm to earth, real, unpretentious, fully human, not allowing to be made a guru. How very refreshing.
Sooooo sun burn red face!!!
Anyone who claims to be enlightened are not its very rare for human being to be truly enlightened there have only been a few !
when was this recorded, please?
2019
th-cam.com/video/M86s1dDQlhs/w-d-xo.html
In timpul retreatului din Olanda la care am fost si eu in 2019
Its sad for Adya to base his opinions for Osho according to a Netflix documentary. Netflix is just pure propaganda.. Its also sad that Adya doesn't have the clarity to see that and watches Netflix.
As him self says he might be enlightened but still naive on other stuff..
And I do love Adya and his teachings...
But Osho is way bigger..
What do you base yourself on Osho being bigger?I'm pretty sure Adya knew about Osho before Netflix..as did many other people.Like i said above,Osho was a jerk in certain "dimensions" but a good teacher just the same
I was thinking the samething...plus disappoints me that he watches it netflix a company that embraces movies like cuties that uses kids in a way they shouldnt
Man like if this guy can even try to understand Osho. His igo would not allow him to go near Osho. Osho can show him that his enlightenment is just a delusion.
What a ridiculous comment.
Nisargadatta Maharaj smoked cigarettes up ‘til he died.
Alan Watts was an alcoholic.
Osho seemed every egoic to me. I read one of his books, well read 15 pages or so and very judgemental.
@@louisar4227 Great comment, beautifully put as well 👏🏼
i dont like how this interviewer speaks for adyashanti and tries to puts words in his mouth
Strange because I’ve heard from a few spiritual practitioners that Osho was a fake and actually evil. I’ve heard many many of his talks and I just can’t see that. The doc doesn’t show he actually did much wrong but his people surrounding him were very problematic. I’m sure he wasn’t perfect at all and liked sex, power and jewels but his intention showed he could live without all that, I think. Of course he may have not lived a fully “spiritual” life...who knows!
Osho = ocean
Adya =spoon 😅
As for as being a complete master. ..
Nevertheless Adya has his great depth. .. 👍
Osho is once in a big bang 💕
Interviewer first I would suggest that you don't make fun of people.
Osho didn't stay home watching Netflix..
He went against governments, religions and the system.
He tried to create the new man and the new society.
^ the new man.
I heard he spent a lot of time in retreat watching movies
I don’t know enough but it seems anyone that is a threat to governments and the system tends to get hatchet jobs done on them. Shame even wise people blindly believe propaganda machines.
I like how these people think that we will be surprise that they are like the rest of us. He watches movies OMG. He is more boring than a "normal" person
What a pathetic comment! !!!
@@jilliancoxall6357 but you don't find it pathetic that this guy thinks that he is so special. Anyway you don't have to, this kind of people make me angry so I write this kind of comment I admit it.
@@AS-ty3pf If you watched his videos and read his books then it would become totally clear that he doesn't think he's special at all, exactly the opposite. He teaches that absolutely everyone has the very same capacity to become aware of their true and infinite self - a source of eternal joy. It is his mission to bring people to that point of self awareness. I have seen him interacting with people at his retreats and seminars and he treats everyone with the same kindness and respect , He is a genuinely compassionate human being.
@@jilliancoxall6357 I don't think I am willing to waste time on this one, to be honest, I watched few of his videos to see that he has no depth. Of course he is nice to people who come to him why would anyone want to be with him otherwise. His ego is maybe subtle but bigger than the ego of a normal person like many of those western gurus who think because they had some kind of an experience while meditating they are now enlightened and can teach enlightenment to others. Look at him in this video, he had no humbleness talking about a guy like Osho he thinks he can judge the whole phenomenon of this exceptional man by watching a documentary. In his mind he is thinking he is doing a much better job than Osho which is laughable. One hour of one of the meditations Osho created is much better that a whole day seminar of this guy. It has been always risky to be with a real master of the like of Osho, being with this guy has no risk and also no benefit.
@@AS-ty3pf I share your opinion. I found it quite sobering to hear Adyashanti on this interview. I feel like scales have dropped off my eyes and I am having an 'awakening'. How on earth could anyone mistake this guy as enlightened? How can an enlightened being not recognize another in Osho? I'm shocked 'awake'! Although I haven't listened much to him, I just accepted that maybe he is enlightened or something, at the very least 'awakened'.
In the spirit of Osho, not just 'believing' what he said, I dare observe myself that a good marker of an enlightened being is that they do NOT write. How ironic, no true master has written in the past. No master has taught either. I dont have words, I don't who is crazy here.🙏🏽💜
The only perfection in this statements is the Nonsense justification for the lack of enlightenment.
There are true gurus and false gurus
Enlightened and ignorant
Just because various teachers are famous or charismatic and like a parrot can repeat the words of Indian scriptures does not necessarily equal liberation.
What is the measure by which one can assess if someone is enlighten. Just because you admire someone it does not mean they have achieved the final state.
Perhaps rather than listening to self proclaimed enlightened people we should study the ancient doctrines as the concept of enlightenment is clearly defined.
Finally, I might add that There is another category and it is called charlatan, and the history has been filled with it.
The interviewer is so inept and so unprofessional as if he's never given interviews before it really sucks the way that he finishes sentences for the person he is interviewing it's just a common theme among people who do interviews today it's rude and it just sucks.
Adyashanti, I love and respect you. But be very careful when talking about Osho. He was a complete master and much more. He was a very rare soul and is in the ranks of the Buddha himself.
Haha and you missed the message in the video afterall. The worship comes out strongly in your message Osho is not worth more than an any other. Get over it
@@goprosoccermg5716 Yes I have completely lost it! I am a cuckoo! ALL GLORY AND ALL PRAISE TO MASTER OSHO ALONE!
@@goprosoccermg5716 The word worth was derived when servants like me and you had the rare privilege of witnessing the golden shit that came out of what we call Osho. His one shit can save the human race infinite times over, what to say about his presence? It is incomprehensible. And what is there to get over. I am not hurdling obstacles. I am going all the way home, to the big blue sky.OSSSHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM MAD FOR YOU YAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Aum Shanti🙏❤🕊
The interviewer is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
But he DOES eat burgers, interviewer! Adya’s face 😆 everyone thinks teachers are vegans. Tolle isn’t either, for better or worse
Yes, that 'animal' eating is precisely why such 'teachers' discount the Master Osho... It opens up a Pandora's box if one embraces parts of a pointing. Osho was known for criticizing meat eating as 'unaesthetic'. But because he was the most impartial, unorthodox, true master he said that meat eating did not mean one could not become a Buddha, as both Christ and Guatama the Buddha continued eating meat after enlightenment. One thing I love about Osho is that he openly acknowledged other Master, including his very 'different' contemporary, J Krisnamurti.💜🙏🏽
@@dabeezkneez8716 but Rolls Royce and calling people bitches ... aesthetic AF.
He sexually and financially exploited his followers, pursuing hedonism and luxury and promoting a grandiose self-image. If you think he nevertheless was truly wise and good, I don't know what to say to you.
You can do better than this!
didnt budda do this?0
@@chaveth3382 trolling?
@@FrogmortonHotchkiss just asking
@@chaveth3382 He's not a contemporary figure we can judge as easily as Osho. Semi-mythological. But the traditions tend to link enlightenment with being morally better than most people... so not a self-serving prick like Osho. There's nothing in the story/history of the Buddha saying he enriched himself, exploited others or the like. On the contrary, his love of truth made him abandon riches and an entire kingdom.
that was precisely his teaching. You can live like a king and still be enlightened.