REAPER Man Reacts to First Time Schmorgle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2022
- @Schmorgle did a video about his first experience learning REAPER. Today I watch this video and add comments and tips for anyone else running into the same problems.
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Great video 🤘🤘
The only man who could ever teach me, was the son of a REAPER man!
Aw - dang, this should be awarded comment of the year! That ones perfect! Can we have a shirt??
Thank you for suffering my ineptitude! Such a great reaction and video. Can't wait to dive back in with context and.. I don't know, ANY knowledge of the program.
You were very entertaining.
I prefer that Reaper doesn't come with instruments, I think this helps keep the price low. Most of the time, even in high-end DAWs, I will hardly ever use the instruments native to the DAW since I already have my own favorites, like mentioned in the video. Really fun video, I enjoyed it!
Totally agreed. I use the Arturia Collection a lot, I don't think any more options would actually be helpful.
Absolutely agree. If a daw comes with loads of bloat I will avoid it unless it gives you the option whether or not to install it. Reaper has the right balance with the effects and tools it provides out of the box. I like the 'roll your own' approach'. There's so much good free content out there now if you need some extra tools.
Yeah man, no bloat on reaper! Ieven think cockos has too many plugs there :D pls just focus on making BESt daw possible! We handle it after That! Theres thousands of plugins around in a oversaturated market, who ever asks for reaper to have instruments needs to explore the vst scene a bit better and get abit more informed, it rly boggles My mind why would a producer with actual experience ask for something like that, instant red flag
EXACTLY. We don't need or want bloatware. That's why I chose Reaper. I have 20 something years worth of plugins.
Many years ago I was using cubase and for some reason I was considering replacing my DAW so I tried studio one, a very early version, I remember the version number was 2.0, I made a song with it but I found that at that time studio one seemed to have problems with the sound when using kontakt so I gave up on studio one I tried reaper, and when I couldn't even finish a song with reaper I admitted my stupidity, so I gave up on reaper and went back to cubase again.
A few years later, for some reason, I was determined to change my DAW again, so I chose reaper, and even though it was a big challenge for me, I settled down and started learning it.
Now, years later, I can't live without reaper. It has become my right-hand man and not only does my job effectively, but it has also become my child, as I have taught reaper to do so many things. Note: It's not the reaper that teaches me, it's me that teaches it.
So, I think it's important not to think of it as an easy-to-use tool when you first get it, but to raise it as a child.
Now, I love my kids.
REAPER isn't for anyone who wants something that "just works" out of the box. It's for someone who wants it to work exactly as you want it to work....
And when it does, it's powerful AF...
and it's free! (kinda)
As a retired programmer Reaper is my idea of heaven. 😀
This is probably the best type of Reaper video I've seen past years - someone else who actually does their craft, trying Reaper from scratch, and you clarifying their observations, explaining things quickly on point,
I mean, I've been using Reaper for quite some time, and it's still overwhelming to get grasp on all the features (which Kenny at least shows in a friendly manner in his videos) and keep track of all the changes (which you, Jon do, thanks for that!), but even I have a burden of "user bias" when using the program, so it's nice to see how someone else approaches Reaper in their workflow, maybe finding new ways to use this thing along,
having more videos like this - let's say inviting some musician, designer, editor whatever.. to try Reaper without prior experience, let them figure things out on their own while slightly guiding them - that's the kind of videos Reaper needs I think - sure there's tons of tutorial series on Reaper site like "Recording Your Band" or "Editing" etc.. which are definitely great, but they show you the approach provided by one most most knowledgeable person who is using Reaper for so long they just do things without questioning the use cases which again may feel overwhelming for new users (at least that's the feedback I get from people around who ask me about Reaper)
(sorry for long post, hope it's not too confusing)
cheers
Hahaa! This is a fun episode!! Actually an awesome way to address the new user issues.
LOVE THIS A LOT. so good!!! REAPERMANNNN
The only reaction video worths with a real educationnal purpose ! 👍
I felt the same like, wanted to answers each of his question on the fly.
This was awesome Jon. I spit my coffee out laughing during the "whoaaaaaa" part when he pulled up the plugin parameters window :)
😀🤣
We totally don't use that lol. I`ve never looked for that method.
im 53 and not super computer savvy lol. i finally got smart and tool the time to learn what i needed and it was like an epiphany. all i can do is kick myself for not doing it before. i really cant see myself leaving reaper for another daw now. it is easy to be overwhelmed , and of course between the helpfull community on the forums and the great content creators all u need to learn is there. i made the mistake of trying to just consume it all lol. when i went back and tackled each bit i needed one thing at a time the floodgates opened. thanks john for all your content.
This is a great combo of videos. It should be a must-watch for any new user!
Loved watching this, and your honesty and humility made it more worthwhile. I too found Reaper daunting but it’s such a great platform that I’m delving deeper into all the time.
Oh and your Fresh Start series will be getting more viewing from me when another laptop arrives tomorrow! It’s a must watch as far as I’m concerned 👍
i've been using for years now (home recording user, not a pro using it all the time) - i learnt stuff from this video. Reaper is like MS Excel, the more you dig, the more power
you find. Big thanks to channels like this and Reaper Mania for the "quick start" guides!
very cool, enjoyed!
Schmorgle!
I made a remix of his song "Chase" a while back. Such an awesome singer.
And so nice to see him on the Reaper side 😄
I'm really glad you reviewed this video. Your audience should really appreciate your efforts. Two, he's out of his lane. Doing these kinds of reviews where one is not a subject matter expert is useless and misleading. All software has become complex and doing a "discovery" video as others have done on Reaper is misguiding the audience. Folks need to stay in their lanes. This is a perfect example of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Not to the presenter, but to the audience and in this case the Reaper community.
Best of luck to everyone.
For myself as a new user, it’s super helpful of you to react to others in this format. Further explaining the functions, as many videos only brush over. It’s very clear and easy to understand. I’ve looked around. Perhaps I’m not looking in the right place. Have you covered the all the color options in the “theme tweak” window?
A great video and it reflects the experience of many of us. I have great admiration for Reaper. It would be good if the developers could create a sort of overlay which provides a simple and restricted experience for new users. Just enough to start up, do some audio and midi tracks and mix.
Reaper is just incredible
I can see how a new user would be overwhelmed by reaper but as someone who's used it for ages and likes to do advanced routing and such I couldn't imagine using anything else at this point.
Great job :)
Reaper has a lot in common with programs like MS Word. While there are a RIDICULOUS amount of menu choices and customization options, you can start using it without getting into that. I would guess most people using Word never delve into the depths of the menus but can use it to create a pretty nice looking document. Then you can learn the dirty little details as you need them. Likewise, I started out using Reaper as a very simple recorder, but bit bit bit I’ve learned how much great functionality is contained in all the menus and dialogs around the program. The payoff for sticking with it and learning is immense. Thanks for the videos helping us to dig into that functionality!
It is wrong to judge a program from the first use, especially with music recording programs. Every person is free to choose it using the program that suits his work and specialization. But for me I come from pro tools and Cubase but in the end I found the Reaper is the best and most suitable for me. I can do anything easily
This was a very positive and informative video. I enjoyed the way any misinformation or errors were tastefully addressed by Jon in a kind and professional manner. Reaper is an awesome DAW. Has tons of features for anyone interested in trying to learn it. I use it specifically for vocal recordings... Not so much music creation, so lack of built in instruments is fine...besides REAPER accepts 3rd party VST instruments, so it offers a solution. Good stuff!
13:44 there is a script called "Adaptive grid menu" that changes the grid according to how much the view is zoomed in or out. Very very helpful. I might have quitted reaper as a beginner if not for this script.
that moment when suddenly your Headphones disappear :) 22:09
I do like reaper but I wish they would add a template feature similar to that in logic to start users off quickly and a chord recognition feature I think this would add even more worth to this great daw thanks for sharing best wishes Phil UK 👍
Jump cut at the end with headphones made me giggle
I didn't know about Reaper until I saw that Pagefire on TH-cam uses Reaper. I'd have to spent weeks learning how to do things before making any type of even mildly competent music.
Schmorgle describing Reaper as the "Linux of DAWs" really checks out, it's highly customizable and you can do whatever you want with it if you take the time to learn it, but for someone who just wants to dive in to music production as a complete noob, it may not be as good for them.
the 1175 compressor is my personal GOAT comp.
I tried twice in 2010, then gave it a another chance in 2011... and then it clicked BOOM, have been using it since and absolutely love it. I have tried about 4 - 5 other DAWS just to try out and they never quite compare.
2011 is when the REAPER Blog started. Coincidence?
When I first tried it, the MIDI was barely implemented, which was a dealbreaker, but I could see its potential even then. It's amazing now. You can do whatever you want with it,
@@lambd01d yeah I remember the MIDI of old. It's gotten a lot better but the MIDI of the early 10's REAPER was frankly awful., I used it again recently and was surprised. Not Ableton level, but usable.
Where reaper could really shine for helping people starting out is if it had a trusted-free-plugins and trusted-free-patches browsing system. Integrate with pianobook, and decent sampler, and Dexed, and provide a plugin and preset discovery and browsing experience.
Good video
Thank you so much to Reaper community!! And sorry for my english. I'm from Argentina.
Reaper:
1. 64 audio channels per mixer track
2. Advanced routing features
3. Advanced "side chaining" for All parameters
4. Built-in pitch correction (both auto & manual)
5. Great stock plugins plus use any 3rd party plugin format
6. Extremely Advanced render options & render queue with flexible naming options when rendering multiple items.
7. 16 customizable tool bars
8. Create your own keyboard shortcuts
9. Create custom macros which automates multiple commands into 1 action then map that to a keyboard shortcut
10. Portable install
11. Advanced multiple layered "track freeze" with the ability to go all the way back to the original state even after closing the project
12. Load project in offline mode to troubleshoot buggy vsts
13. Extremely low RAM & CPU usage
14. Amazing noise removal
15. Vocal alignment function built-in
16. Versatile time Stretch options
17. Open & switch between multiple sessions
18. Remote session collaboration tools (NinJAM)
19. Online repository with over 2000 community based enhancements including plugin
20. Sub-project linking
21. Remote control daw via any web browser
22. ChordGUN
23. MIDI key lock
24. Save "undo" as a part the project for unlimited "undos" at anytime
25. Loop record & create take lanes for both audio & midi to capture the perfect performance or use comping to achieve the perfect take
26. Tempo lock samples to your project with built-in sample browser
27. Delta solo
28. Ara support
29. Agnostic tracks... Meaning there are no specific track type.
30. Put Midi, audio, mono, stereo, video or image files, all on the same track
31. Media browser can show 🎶 notes being played in the sample being previewed
32. Video editing & rendering
33. Oversampling for any individual plugin
34. Oversampling for any plugin chain
copy-pasta. Still only for NERDS.
@@m-stat9 So functional features that help creativity is for NERDS.. not creative producers/Artists... Got it.. cool.. cool 😎
Coming from ableton I really love the trim menu… its a massive wall of text but its a well organized wall of text 🤣
I started recording in 1999 working with Cubase VST and then Sonar. When I tried REAPER 3 in 2010 or so, it was the first DAW that felt intuitive to me. It immediately clicked. To this day I use no scripts or extensions (although I've tried a few). I hardly modify any of the default settings.
I must be missing out on some of the most amazingly intuitive software out there if all those people coming from other DAWs complain about REAPER's complexity.
Having said that, I think Schmorgle actually grasped the basics pretty fast.
You have a neat set of toolbars for grid subdivisions etc! Is that a downloadable Reaper theme?... I think Reaper would be a much better DAW to get into if there was a high quality UI mod to just download and install, and make it look like a...decent, easy to use DAW
"REAPER is power, power is not for everyone!"
I've been trying to find the grid lines forever.
I first heard Reaper after reading some articles in Sound On Sound in 2007 i think i waited to version 3 (2009) before i started to use it
thank you for your videos I learned from your videos very much and I would like to ask a question that no one knows to answer me maybe you can help me is there a possible in repair to insert a record without override the old record and without creating silence by time selection thank you very much
"What the hell is this"
Very relatable
i would like it if reaper had a couple of recommended free plugins, that are maybe not pre-installed, but can just be added to reaper with one click or something. i was pretty lost in the beginning and still kinda am.
Your next video should be a 'Zoom' tutorial teaching him the basics. He'd probably really like it, given half a chance. Thanks for the content! Dave.
this might actually happen
@@TheREAPERBlog Cool - 👍🏻😎 I hope that becomes a reality!
"A lot of epoeple use Reaper for various different things like sound design"
I use it for Foley ... I don;t have a muscial bone in my body. I can barely play a simplified version of Old Lang Syne on my AKAI LPK25 (that I use only really to play foley sounds like footsteps, wooshes, gunshots ... using a sampler).
But yeah, his first reaction to Reaper was similar to mine but I didn;t find a DAW that just made sense for me for Foley like Reaper did.
Maybe Reaper would benefit of a global switch for "display advanced options"
I will be so glad when RS5K gets timestretch pitch-shift.
I've been using Reaper for about a year now. With zero experience with any DAW at the time, I tried three or four others, and they were all jet cockpits. By the time I got to Reaper, I simply kept it.
Yeah. Reaper sure could use a friendlier default UI
This is great 👍 ha!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My former DAW cost 10 times or more that what I paid for Reaper, and it couldn't do all the things Reaper can do. I loves me some Reaper!
👍
It's funny seeing these guys doing all the clickbait and radio DJ techniques, while you just give great and valueable info. Such a contrast. Don't ever change your style.
First I thought "omg, his voice, I need to turn this off,... he'll probably do over-acting", but well, he's lovely.
The automation window is overwhelming and it's one of my gripes with Reaper, especially as I often have ridiculously long FX chains. If it opened with all the individual plugin sections collapsed(or at least an option to collapse them), it would be a lot more manageable.
So, I obviously use the last touched envelope or write automation, as Jon mentioned.
Has that guy been drinking?!!??
I copme formt he future ... the envelopes window was revamped recently. MUCH BETTER. LOL
Pauly Shore learns Reaper
Oh Cool idea ,and worth mentioning are the tons of Videos on "how to" and for free "Na Almost" You and Reaper Mania . I use both Reaper and Ableton and Ableton without Reaper just sucks. All the best good luck.
"how do you make it not suck" Well, this is where the UX recommendation of reasonable defaults comes in. Having to consult a youtube video to figure out how to make a simple default sound not suck is not okay.
Reaper is flexible and great, but it needs to come with reasonable workflows as default. Even if that would mean separate default setups for podcasting vs sound design vs music recording
Showing subdivisions and allowing that to be changed easily should also be set up as standard.
It is easier to go into crazy parameter hell than it is to actually see a more reasonable setup. The fact that it is better to do something invisible ("touch" parameters so they become visible, then edit) shows how bad the UI for that is.
The problems with Reaper are mostly all in the lack of reasonable defaults and a reasonable default setup, as well as most commonly used options being invisible while infinite (but unusable) options are put to the forefront.
The system itself is great, the flexibility is great, but the out-of-the-box experience is terrible. The usability is bad.
Some of the usability issues would take a bit of work, but other parts are relatively easy to solve by offering templates that set the whole system up for different workflows.
(I am a UX specialist, would love to work with Cockos)
What's up guys this is my Reaction to this Reaction video. Let's get some reactions up in here
Basically he has good, expectable points. Well, Reaper is Reaper. If it had the lower, linear instrument/fx pane (well, that's just an UI thing) but also improved parameter modulation (Bitwig Modulators) it would be perfect for me.
Now it's already perfect enough 😁
How did he just pull up a Yamaha CS80?
Does my Reaper have one of those too?
no, that's Arturia plugin :)
Reaper isn’t too different from most of the old school DAWs. There’s too much junk in the UI though, they really need to cleanup that aspect. It’s almost like they have no review process and any possible idea just get included as an option. The backend is amazing tho, it’s still the only DAW that syncs with my setup (MPC4000 as master)
Yeah. The old way of routing, which is still kind of there (that weird grid thing) was frankly so confusing I refused to make music in it for years and just used it for podcasing. But you now have the sends on the mixer which are better. Still not a fan of the 1/2 3/4 shiz though, it's still a headscratch to do say, a ducking or sidechain send.
Ableton? Sidechain Is a single dropdown on every plugin, really easy. Wish it was that simple in REAPER.
60 bucks for a DAW that opens and closes and runs reliably every time. Yeah it’s built like it was created by programmers who want to be proud in what they’ve made. I’m not a programmer but I’ve worked with enough to recognize the craft.
i got reaper because it was inexpensive, and I didn't know how to use a DAW. I think I'm going to change my rig to Apple and use LUNA or Logic. For me the program being intuitive is top priority. I just want play, and I'm not excited about spending endless hours in front of a computer.
He reminds me of Linus just diving into a situation using a computer component or building a system being half prepared or, just going off on a tangent for reactions.
Schmorgle would be wise to read the DAW manual or, watch a getting started guide before diving in & just finding reasons to criticize a particular DAW. I personally find Ableton uninviting non-reliable for plugin compatibility.
Subscribed your channel. I am quite new in reaper and your videos will surely help me to progress. Can you please help me to figure out why RAM usage in reaper project window always showing zero MB and stopped working after upgrading to windows 11 ? Even the performance meter also is not showing memory usage by reaper. It was fine when I was on windows 10. My computer spec is i7 8th gen, 32GB ram. Please help me. Thanking you in advance.
oh weird. I'm seeing that on my Win 11 system too. I didn't notice that until just now. I will report it on the bug forum
@@TheREAPERBlog Thank you once again Sir.
I need to see a response to this response
Reaper honestly is a pain in the ass to learn. I really want to learn it so I can mix with it instead of using Ableton, but the transition is not fun. I keep going back to Live but I know it's shit for anything outside of producing. I can use twice as many plugins in Reaper.
like a drug addict coming from pro tools..eye rolls
He didn't really bother to actually learn anything...
No way it's built on Python. He's obviously not a programmer. The core elements will almost certainly have been compiled from C or C++.
Support for python scripting is built in. Not used much anymore
@@TheREAPERBlog Not disputing that. but given that this is a high performance audio app which is also cross platform it would be MAD to try to write it in a scripting language.
This is no offense to MAC users!
Tip for him yes learn to use windows or Linux. Your mac is not really a MAC it's Unix with a pretty GUI on it. Want to see the code it will make reaper look like a single sheet of paper. God I hate to see this guy on Linux. He would freak out with the over 8 different desktops.
I came from Cubase to reaper. Why oh why because for $60 and less of a CPU hog I could actually make more music and help the environment by extending my computer life.. Yes the learning curve was there but hell there is a learning curve with any DAW. Also for the $500 Cubase cost it came with a lot of vst instruments and samples. I guess Justin Frankel could bundle some vst instruments with reaper and other vendors for more money. The other thing Cubase nickel and Dimmed me every bug fix cost me money. Reaper so for for $60 has been enhancements and bug fixes for NOTHING!
Now for the GUI it's a DAW to make music not a movie, not a video game.
So how much GUI prettiness do you need to write a song?
To me he is a hard line MAC user so reaper.
Jon i have learned a lot from your channel thanks for helping me appreciate Reaper and all it can do.
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That dude is incredibly annoying.... does he sound like that all the time? Or just when he talks?
I do not like the concept of reaction videos. They are a pointless waste of time and I always delete the channel. Who cares how other people react to content. Luckily I noticed that this was the Reaper Blog which I do enjoy.
thanks for giving it a chance
I dont understand why these producers and youtubers , constantly wine about reaper not cmg with instruments, Thats not their job! out of here with that.... We dont want bloat on reaper, let the cockos gods focus on making BESt daw possible at a good price, i hope cockos does not listen to them