I gifted one to my nephew after finishing basic at Fort Benning. It has since spent a summer with him in Devil's Canyon, and is heading to Kuwait soon. He loves it.
I love the watch and bought 3 of them. My biggest gripe and every reviewer seems to fail to mention it is the shiny lumpy texture on the indices. I’m guessing it’s the lume but it looks horrible. Out of the three my grey dial stalls out even when fully wound and on the wrist. My other two function great. Great watch.
I’ve had mine for about 2 years. Love it! Black dial version 1. I bought it from Island Watch at a similar price you displayed, wish I’d picked up the Blue dial at the same time. Imported it to the UK. It’s been great. I don’t have the marker alignment issue you have though. Your day indicator needs moving on one click. Take the watch just past midnight then return it backwards to the current time. to move the sub dial hand one click over to point at the day. Marc Frankel did a video which included adjusting that dial as so many customers were telling him their watch was faulty! Great content and humour on your channel Fella. I’ve been a subscriber since nearly the beginning.
I have to say, after owning this watch for close to a year the lack of hand winding is my biggest complaint as well. I have a 3-5 watch rotation so when it comes time to wear this one again I often pass it over due to not wanting to set the day/date function
Im right handed and wear my watch on the righ hand, almost "sacrilegious" in the watch world. Idk why, but on my left hand it feels too heavy and in the process gets more scratched up. I find that Im more aware of my watch when I wear it on my right. It doesn't impede any of my daily activities
The original reason for a right-handed person wearing on their left hand is because the right hand does more things, so it would likely be busy, leading to both lack of actual utility (can't check time with your right hand active) and more likely to damage (by being the busier hand, far more likely you'll smack your watch on something).
@@nukadog1969 yeah but if the watch gets scratch I like to think is a battle scar there's no reason to be to careful if eventually the watch is going to get scratch. Also I don't like the idea of a watch being stored away only to see the light of day only on special occasion
I don't own an Orient Defender, but I do own a Gold colored Orient Sun & Moon Open Heart and an Orient Star Retrograde SDE00004D which I both love. The build quality of both is very excellent, and I think the Orient Star punches well above its weight, especially considering I bought it second hand, heavily discounted. Love the brand. If I needed a field watch, I wouldn't surprise myself if I went Defender!
Had mine for close to 2 years bought it for $104 new. Use it for surfing fishing hiking everything and has never failed and still keeps great time. Wore it on a Bundt strap for the first year then switched to rubber from Barton.
I have a Orient "Raven Ray" and is one of my favorites, going on for almost 2 years; the PVD looks great, I swapped the bracelet, which is a good one, for a silicon strap for weight reasons but, still, one of my go to watches. Grossly overlooked and underreviewed watch, in my opinion.
Great video, thanks!! I own two Orient watches. The Bambino Gen 2 and the Gen. 1 Defender. Love them both!! Like you, I am not a fan of what they did with the Gen. 2 Defender. The crown placement should have stayed at the 4 o'clock, and the date at the 6 o'clock. I don't like the re-orientation of the sub-dials either. As for the lack of hand-winding, it's not an issue, really. When I am not wearing it, it is usually on a winder. Or, if it has simply been lying around, a few shakes for about 20 seconds gets the engine up and running like a champ! Mine runs at +10s. per day, the last time I checked it, so I am pretty happy with the accuracy of the piece as well. Paid $139.00 USD for mine a few years back, so the bang for the value cannot be beaten! Too bad to hear they are hard to come by now.
Got mine V2 for 160€. Except the crappy metal bracelet wonderful watch. Did like you did first on a bunt leather strap now I wear on a retro calf leather strap. If one could mix the chapter ring from v2 with the date and crown postion of the v1 it would be perfect watch. Love mine crown the v2 has a bit bigger crown and nicer "coin edge" . I think the "crunchiness" comed due to the strong spring pushing the crown away from tube. If pushed firmly and gently turned it threads smoothely like a baby's ass. What I like about v2 is the rotor. It has a proper wieght. You can feel it moving but you can not hear it. The nh35 rotor feels like lazy and to light in comparison. Mine movement run 15+ after regulation I've managed to bring it about +5 per day. Who ever will to regulate it be aware it is very sensitive regulator so have patient with it. It is consistent movement and it is not so irratic like some nh35s I had.
I don't have that one per se, but I have a sport model version 1 with out hand winding or hacking. The lack of those features on it doesn't bother me. It's rose gold plated with a black dial and rose indices on a black rubber strap with sapphire crystal, screw down crown 100 water resistance AND a nice power reserve indicator.......It runs neck and neck with my Mido multifort accuracy wise which has an ETA 2824-36 which hacks and hand winds.
@@larsstougaard7097 (???) I don't have anything to do with Russia. I live far, far away from Russia. US is much close to Russia geographicaly than I am. Oh, and by the way, I don't like Russian Vostok watches. And I am not at all into Russian watches in general.
I've got that very version with the gray dial. I gave a black dial to my son a little over a year ago. The lack of hand winding is probably the biggest shortfall. It's reasonably accurate and has respectable WR. I got mine for just a smidge over $100. The version two goes for twice that. Glad I got mine when I did.
I have an orient day/date version 1 silver dial, silver bracelet (same as yours it's also discontinued) I just love how these affordable orient's are now collectors item.
Good review. I have a number of Orient watches, including both versions of the Defender and I appreciate both. The hand-winding capacity of the version II is nice; no Seiko shake necessary, and the crown is slightly larger and easier to use, but it is at the 3:00 position rather than the 4:00. I don't mind the reversal of the day and 24 hour complications and I do like the semi-skeleton hands. In the end, I do prefer the version II over the version I, but that is just my own preference. I am considering passing my version I on to my nephew, as he wants to build his own collection after I gave him a Citizen Chandler for Christmas.
I bought the Orient Watch Sun Moon. I would guess most people wouldn't be into this watch because it's old timey traditional style. I bought it because it reminds of a watch I had when I was in junior high when I was really into GQ magazine. I bought a Casio that was something like this. I also wanted to get "bang for the buck" and really love the complications. I mean it's got date, day, and sun and moon. Pretty amazing. It's also hand wound. There are two big cons for this watch. 1. It's thick. The profile is quite large. Looks a little bulky on the wrist and so makes it a bit less refined. 2. The hands wind fast up front from a fresh wind and slows down. Time is hence a bit speedy. Otherwise it's a cool watch.
I own the same one with the black dial, a nightmare to adjust but the old model is way better looking than the new version. The didn't have to change the looks but to better the mechanicals of it. Old looks , new caliber.
I have 4 Orient divers. Kamasu, Kanno, Nami and Triton. All of them blow my Seikos out of the water as far as movement, time keeping and alignment of bezel. The Triton is a beast.
I bought the Defender 1 about 6 months before you. The 6 o'clock date window and the dial layout were what made me prefer it over the Defender 2. Like seeing a watch that I own in your intro.
I have this version too, cream dial!!! I put it a silicon strap on it, military style, just love it. So confy and such a gooood watch on this price. Beautiful video Jory! Thank you.
You have same quirk I inadvertently induced recently - day of the week hand positioned between days. I was able to coerce mine to line up by setting the watch backwards until the day of week increments backwards and then setting it forward from there. The day of week hand then snapped to alignment. Imagine my delight.
I have the Orient Defender 2 and absolutely love it. I see what you mean with the dial layout and I wish it had the Defender 1 crown, but mine has the green dial and it looks great. I also have the newer Orient pilot watch and it's also one of my favorite type b fliegers. You cannot go wrong for the $$. The only downsides are that the metal bracelets are junk, but that's an easy fix
Bought this watch based on your first vid and still am digging it to this day. The lack of quick set is a drag sometimes but not terrible and one thing you didn’t mention is it comes with a really great leather strap for the price.
I have this same watch, and it has the exact same displacement on the indices at the 12. It slightly bothered me at first until I saw the first review TTT did on this watch and realized they weren't only picking on me! ;) However, I do love this watch and think it wears well on my smaller 6 3/4 inch wrist...at least it is comfortable to me. Thanks for the updated 1 year review and the continued great content!!!
I’ve had several Orient watches. I love my Orient Bambino of course. But my Orient Worldtimer is so nice, useful, economical and it takes a beating also!
Thanks for the review, thanks to you now i got myself version 2. i love it very much, the handwinding feature is a very very useful feature to me because i often wear different watches everyday.
I own a defender 2 and I love it. The visual differences between the 1 and 2 didn't bother me all that much. They're both pretty and functional watches.
My daily is the Defender II (black dial, stainless steel) on a rubber strap. I love everything about it. Would prefer sapphire but the whole package is awesome anyways. I don't have any misalignment on mine.
I have several Orient watches and they all represent great value. Not got a Defender but it's a great looking piece. Not sure that I need to know that it's halfway between Saturday and Sunday but hey..I would definitely buy one of these. Nice review.
An Orient model I really like! at 42mm it is as big as an SKX 007. Perfect size imho. I wear bigger G-Shock and Suunto/Garmin watches on my 6.15 inch wrist.
I own a version one in that grey color as well. Nice watch, will agree with the size comment. 40 mm would have been better but for the price a really nice watch. I am just surprised no one ever mentions how audible the rotor is. When I shake mine around it is noticable. So curious if anyone noticed the rotor noise.
I don't understand how 42mm case diameter can be a con. I have 8" wrists so anything under 39mm is a con to me. 42 is very reasonable imo. Also I don't get the fascination with lume. I don't consider lume at all when looking at a watch cause lets face it, if you want to see the time in the dark your phone is probably your best bet. Sure good lume is nice, but if it doesn't have it, who cares.
Bought an Orient Mako 2 and owned it for a grand total of four days before offering it up for sale on ebay. I just cant get over how awful the bezel is to turn, how small it is, and how cheap the bracelet feels. Even after replacing the bezel, bracelet to a jubilee one, and the bezel insert, I still cant bring myself to like the Mako 2 or Orient as a brand. I'd rather pay more for a Seiko, but fall in love with my watches and feel happy when I wear them.
I have the version 1 and I really like it. I am happy to see that your honeymoon with it is still on. I had a feeling that you were going to have a falling out for some reason.
Having the crown at the 4 o'clock position is better than exposed at 3 o'clock, but for someone that uses a watch like this as a tool, this is still unacceptable. It needs to be durable, and to be blunt, this watch isn't. Not having crown guards helps keep nice clean lines, but if the crown snags on barbed wire or hooks on a wire under the hood of my truck or even just catches on edge of my pocket as I'm reaching for my knife, it can easily snap off. I've learned this lesson the hard way far too many times. Sapphire is great for keeping the watch pretty, but not good for work. Acrylic may scratch easier, but it doesn't bust as easy. Yes, I know this watch is mineral crystal, but how many "work" watches have you seen advertised as having sapphire as an _upgrade?_ Dive watches would be better if it wasn't for that nearly useless crap-magnet of a rotating bezel that makes the watch stick up higher than it needs too. Seriously, how many of you own a dive watch and have actually used the bezel? This watch was designed to look like it can be worn by people that work outside, but people that _actually_ work outside steer clear of them. It's all form over function. Watchmakers, let's come to an understanding. We. Don't. Care. If. It's. Pretty. We care if we can put it on in the morning, work a full day, and then take it off and put it on the nightstand instead of a trash can. This is why most of us wear small cheap watches if we wear them at all. This watch is not a bad watch, but as far as actually wearing this field watch in the field? Nope. Slap an acrylic crystal on it and sloped 80% guards around the crown and we'll talk. I don't think I'm asking for much. I wish there was an affordable mechanical watch that could replace my cheap Timex, but like Jayne once said, "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak."
I got the same watch ( black dial ) and after an while with it on my wrist I called my brother and gave it to him ( he was ecstatic , of course ) but despite the fact that it is a great watch , something didn't click at all with me . It literally felt like somebody had given me the watch wasn't mine . Very weird feeling but it can happen .
I know this totally off topic but I was wondering if you (or anyone else for that matter) have suffered the same problem I have always had. I obsess about my watch being out by a few seconds (even with quartz watches) I have had COSC certified quality timepieces - even radio synced and blue tooth synced watches but they are too far removed from the pure essence of what a timepiece should be for me. I have finally found the cure and that is my Steinhart Nav B Uhr with sub dial second hand (non hacking) and a AVI-8 flyboy chrono with a Seiko VK64 that has no running second hand sub dial. You have no idea what a relief it is for me not to obsess how my watch is five or six seconds out. Thanks for taking the time to read this, I'd love to know your thoughts. Cheers. John from Staffordshire England
I have the v2 blue dial its a great watch but feels more like a dress watch rather than a field watch and for that reason it's not an everyday watch as I don't want to damage it which I know defeats the object of the watch
Bought the exact same model off of Amazon for a hundred bucks about three years ago. Was great once you got past it's weird quirks. Unfortunately, the actual movement is now showing some issues ( I basically lose two minutes a day at this point) and it's nowhere close to being worthwhile enough to get serviced
I own 11 Orient watches including this one as well as the cream dial V.1. They all keep time better than my Seiko’s. They all are lacking in the lume department comparatively. Fit and finish is about the same as Seiko.
Jory, i just don't know how you tell the time on this watch without staring at it for like 30 seconds. Theres too much going on on the dial to make it legible in a hurry. maybe you get used to it but jumping from watches in your collection won't help.
Sorry this question is off topic or your video. I just recently came across a Corum watch online. I know nothing about these watches and wad wonder if you had an opinion on them . Gracias.
I had the orient defender 2 with the cream color dial and I didn’t bond with it. I think where it was a light colored dial it wore bigger on the wrist.
Why such a big fuss about manual winding on an automatic watch? The least you use the crown the best is for a healthy keyless works and the gasket inside the crown shaft (on Japanese waterproofing system). Hacking? Yes, it's useful when you want to sync the watch. Nothing mentioned about Orient's power reserve. The most important complication all watches should have, either manual wind or automatic. Only Orient offers it, at very affordable prices. Try the European brands.............
Was this filmed on Saturday or Sunday? Because my defender's day hand is always on the day of the week and only goes in-between from midnight to about 4 in the morning.
I have this same watch and was able to pick it up for under $140 on used market only 2 weeks old. I love this dial layout versus the Gen 2 as you indicated. The main thing for me is the date complication at the 6 o'clock position and the 4 o'clock crown as well.
I own the Orient Defender 2 in black stainless steel and its such a great watch. The Defender 2 is becoming equally hard to find at retail prices and I was lucky enough to snag one before prices went up. The hacking and hand wind movement are why I prefer this variant for the reasons you talked about. The only negative I see in this (or both) watches is lack of sapphire crystal, but at the true retail price that is easily forgiven. I would also say, though it has a larger case size, the short lugs make it wear smaller and easier on a broader range of wrist sizes. This watch is a ton of fun and I love it.
One of my first mechanical watches is a black dial Orient Disk Rainbow that I still own. It gets put on the for-sale queue often but it always seems to get pulled back before I list it.
I like both versions and display designs, the 6 o'clock date position and 4 o'clock crown is more appealing to me than on the Defender 2, but on that I like the bigger 24hour complication a lot more and the red tipped second hand is a huge design upgrade. That would be a big plus for me on version 1 but the way it is, I would prefer the Defender 2 slightly.
I gifted one to my nephew after finishing basic at Fort Benning. It has since spent a summer with him in Devil's Canyon, and is heading to Kuwait soon. He loves it.
I think Orient are becoming much more popular and for good reason, but Orient Star are just another level of great
Today i have just got the Orient Sun and Moon V3 for 265$. I hope it will serve me well.
Love my Orient Ray 2, 200m depth rate, day date complication and people think its more expensive then it is. Dial on the black one is beautiful.
I love the watch and bought 3 of them. My biggest gripe and every reviewer seems to fail to mention it is the shiny lumpy texture on the indices. I’m guessing it’s the lume but it looks horrible. Out of the three my grey dial stalls out even when fully wound and on the wrist. My other two function great. Great watch.
I’ve had mine for about 2 years. Love it! Black dial version 1. I bought it from Island Watch at a similar price you displayed, wish I’d picked up the Blue dial at the same time. Imported it to the UK.
It’s been great. I don’t have the marker alignment issue you have though.
Your day indicator needs moving on one click. Take the watch just past midnight then return it backwards to the current time. to move the sub dial hand one click over to point at the day. Marc Frankel did a video which included adjusting that dial as so many customers were telling him their watch was faulty!
Great content and humour on your channel Fella. I’ve been a subscriber since nearly the beginning.
I have to say, after owning this watch for close to a year the lack of hand winding is my biggest complaint as well. I have a 3-5 watch rotation so when it comes time to wear this one again I often pass it over due to not wanting to set the day/date function
Im right handed and wear my watch on the righ hand, almost "sacrilegious" in the watch world. Idk why, but on my left hand it feels too heavy and in the process gets more scratched up. I find that Im more aware of my watch when I wear it on my right. It doesn't impede any of my daily activities
I'm left handed and wear my watch on my Left
@@imwastedhere eyy
Me too. Citizen ny004 most comfortable watch ever(except for a date just)
The original reason for a right-handed person wearing on their left hand is because the right hand does more things, so it would likely be busy, leading to both lack of actual utility (can't check time with your right hand active) and more likely to damage (by being the busier hand, far more likely you'll smack your watch on something).
@@nukadog1969 yeah but if the watch gets scratch I like to think is a battle scar there's no reason to be to careful if eventually the watch is going to get scratch. Also I don't like the idea of a watch being stored away only to see the light of day only on special occasion
I don't own an Orient Defender, but I do own a Gold colored Orient Sun & Moon Open Heart and an Orient Star Retrograde SDE00004D which I both love. The build quality of both is very excellent, and I think the Orient Star punches well above its weight, especially considering I bought it second hand, heavily discounted. Love the brand. If I needed a field watch, I wouldn't surprise myself if I went Defender!
Had mine for close to 2 years bought it for $104 new. Use it for surfing fishing hiking everything and has never failed and still keeps great time. Wore it on a Bundt strap for the first year then switched to rubber from Barton.
I have a Orient "Raven Ray" and is one of my favorites, going on for almost 2 years; the PVD looks great, I swapped the bracelet, which is a good one, for a silicon strap for weight reasons but, still, one of my go to watches. Grossly overlooked and underreviewed watch, in my opinion.
Great video, thanks!! I own two Orient watches. The Bambino Gen 2 and the Gen. 1 Defender. Love them both!! Like you, I am not a fan of what they did with the Gen. 2 Defender. The crown placement should have stayed at the
4 o'clock, and the date at the 6 o'clock. I don't like the re-orientation of the sub-dials either. As for the lack of hand-winding, it's not an issue, really. When I am not wearing it, it is usually on a winder. Or, if it has simply been lying around, a few shakes for about 20 seconds gets the engine up and running like a champ! Mine runs at +10s. per day, the last time I checked it, so I am pretty happy with the accuracy of the piece as well. Paid $139.00 USD for mine a few years back, so the bang for the value cannot be beaten! Too bad to hear they are hard to come by now.
Got mine V2 for 160€. Except the crappy metal bracelet wonderful watch. Did like you did first on a bunt leather strap now I wear on a retro calf leather strap. If one could mix the chapter ring from v2 with the date and crown postion of the v1 it would be perfect watch. Love mine crown the v2 has a bit bigger crown and nicer "coin edge" . I think the "crunchiness" comed due to the strong spring pushing the crown away from tube. If pushed firmly and gently turned it threads smoothely like a baby's ass. What I like about v2 is the rotor. It has a proper wieght. You can feel it moving but you can not hear it. The nh35 rotor feels like lazy and to light in comparison. Mine movement run 15+ after regulation I've managed to bring it about +5 per day. Who ever will to regulate it be aware it is very sensitive regulator so have patient with it. It is consistent movement and it is not so irratic like some nh35s I had.
I don't have that one per se, but I have a sport model version 1 with out hand winding or hacking. The lack of those features on it doesn't bother me. It's rose gold plated with a black dial and rose indices on a black rubber strap with sapphire crystal, screw down crown 100 water resistance AND a nice power reserve indicator.......It runs neck and neck with my Mido multifort accuracy wise which has an ETA 2824-36 which hacks and hand winds.
My favorite review vids are those done after a year and the long term reviews, thanks for making this one Jory!
My most favorite watch of all time. Enough said!
Well I would have guessed it was Russian Vostok watch Vladimir ⌚
@@larsstougaard7097 (???) I don't have anything to do with Russia. I live far, far away from Russia. US is much close to Russia geographicaly than I am.
Oh, and by the way, I don't like Russian Vostok watches. And I am not at all into Russian watches in general.
@@vladimirpetreski7248 I got a Vostok but use it very little, Orient is much better. I would like a Orient field watch this year. Time will tell 😊
I’m on the fence. She does look good but I’m a 38mm guy
I've got that very version with the gray dial. I gave a black dial to my son a little over a year ago. The lack of hand winding is probably the biggest shortfall. It's reasonably accurate and has respectable WR. I got mine for just a smidge over $100. The version two goes for twice that. Glad I got mine when I did.
I have an orient day/date version 1 silver dial, silver bracelet (same as yours it's also discontinued) I just love how these affordable orient's are now collectors item.
Good review. I have a number of Orient watches, including both versions of the Defender and I appreciate both. The hand-winding capacity of the version II is nice; no Seiko shake necessary, and the crown is slightly larger and easier to use, but it is at the 3:00 position rather than the 4:00. I don't mind the reversal of the day and 24 hour complications and I do like the semi-skeleton hands. In the end, I do prefer the version II over the version I, but that is just my own preference. I am considering passing my version I on to my nephew, as he wants to build his own collection after I gave him a Citizen Chandler for Christmas.
I bought the Orient Watch Sun Moon. I would guess most people wouldn't be into this watch because it's old timey traditional style. I bought it because it reminds of a watch I had when I was in junior high when I was really into GQ magazine. I bought a Casio that was something like this. I also wanted to get "bang for the buck" and really love the complications. I mean it's got date, day, and sun and moon. Pretty amazing. It's also hand wound. There are two big cons for this watch. 1. It's thick. The profile is quite large. Looks a little bulky on the wrist and so makes it a bit less refined. 2. The hands wind fast up front from a fresh wind and slows down. Time is hence a bit speedy. Otherwise it's a cool watch.
I own the same one with the black dial, a nightmare to adjust but the old model is way better looking than the new version. The didn't have to change the looks but to better the mechanicals of it. Old looks , new caliber.
First Orient was this watch in the blue. Wanted the grey but it was out of stock. Really glad I got the version one before it was out of stock.
Orient Sun and Moon, rose gold is one of their best watches IMO
I have his watch and LOVE it. I get complements all the time.
Think I'd have to agree with you on that, I particularly like the version 3 with the date by the 7/8 o clock area
@@llamawizard Indeed, it's that beautifull dial that screams for attention. It has the appeal of a high-end luxury piece.
@@llamawizard Also to add....this is a keeper in my collection.
@@TheVirtuoso883 Also to add....this is a keeper in my collection.
I have 4 Orient divers. Kamasu, Kanno, Nami and Triton. All of them blow my Seikos out of the water as far as movement, time keeping and alignment of bezel. The Triton is a beast.
I bought the Defender 1 about 6 months before you. The 6 o'clock date window and the dial layout were what made me prefer it over the Defender 2. Like seeing a watch that I own in your intro.
I have this version too, cream dial!!! I put it a silicon strap on it, military style, just love it. So confy and such a gooood watch on this price. Beautiful video Jory! Thank you.
You have same quirk I inadvertently induced recently - day of the week hand positioned between days. I was able to coerce mine to line up by setting the watch backwards until the day of week increments backwards and then setting it forward from there. The day of week hand then snapped to alignment. Imagine my delight.
I have the Orient Defender 2 and absolutely love it. I see what you mean with the dial layout and I wish it had the Defender 1 crown, but mine has the green dial and it looks great. I also have the newer Orient pilot watch and it's also one of my favorite type b fliegers. You cannot go wrong for the $$. The only downsides are that the metal bracelets are junk, but that's an easy fix
Bought this watch based on your first vid and still am digging it to this day. The lack of quick set is a drag sometimes but not terrible and one thing you didn’t mention is it comes with a really great leather strap for the price.
I have this same watch, and it has the exact same displacement on the indices at the 12. It slightly bothered me at first until I saw the first review TTT did on this watch and realized they weren't only picking on me! ;) However, I do love this watch and think it wears well on my smaller 6 3/4 inch wrist...at least it is comfortable to me. Thanks for the updated 1 year review and the continued great content!!!
I just picked one up in June 2021 for $130 bucks with tags still on. Thinking I got a decent steal
I’ve had several Orient watches. I love my Orient Bambino of course. But my Orient Worldtimer is so nice, useful, economical and it takes a beating also!
Clouds won't stop lume from charging. Lume charges from UV, and clouds don't block UV light.
I was referring to the room getting darker due to the clouds, thus the lume being visible. 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for the review, thanks to you now i got myself version 2.
i love it very much, the handwinding feature is a very very useful feature to me because i often wear different watches everyday.
Can someone please please please tell me where to get that watch strap!
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I have that exact watch. Love it. Nice Bund. Where'd you get that?
Have the blue v1 love that little watch, wear it more than my Hamiltons
I own a defender 2 and I love it. The visual differences between the 1 and 2 didn't bother me all that much. They're both pretty and functional watches.
My daily is the Defender II (black dial, stainless steel) on a rubber strap. I love everything about it. Would prefer sapphire but the whole package is awesome anyways. I don't have any misalignment on mine.
I have several Orient watches and they all represent great value. Not got a Defender but it's a great looking piece. Not sure that I need to know that it's halfway between Saturday and Sunday but hey..I would definitely buy one of these. Nice review.
I don’t own an Orient watch yet, but if I could find one of these for the price you got this one, I’d be all over it! Great review as always Jory!!!
My Defender V1 is one of my favourite watches. Gets lots of wrist time.
An Orient model I really like! at 42mm it is as big as an SKX 007. Perfect size imho. I wear bigger G-Shock and Suunto/Garmin watches on my 6.15 inch wrist.
8 inch wrist club member here. That 42.2mm size looks appealing.
I own a version one in that grey color as well. Nice watch, will agree with the size comment. 40 mm would have been better but for the price a really nice watch. I am just surprised no one ever mentions how audible the rotor is. When I shake mine around it is noticable. So curious if anyone noticed the rotor noise.
I don't understand how 42mm case diameter can be a con. I have 8" wrists so anything under 39mm is a con to me. 42 is very reasonable imo. Also I don't get the fascination with lume. I don't consider lume at all when looking at a watch cause lets face it, if you want to see the time in the dark your phone is probably your best bet. Sure good lume is nice, but if it doesn't have it, who cares.
Nice piece, shame about the 12 markers, would irritate my ocd.. great content as ever 🏴👍🏻
Bought an Orient Mako 2 and owned it for a grand total of four days before offering it up for sale on ebay. I just cant get over how awful the bezel is to turn, how small it is, and how cheap the bracelet feels. Even after replacing the bezel, bracelet to a jubilee one, and the bezel insert, I still cant bring myself to like the Mako 2 or Orient as a brand. I'd rather pay more for a Seiko, but fall in love with my watches and feel happy when I wear them.
I have the version 1 and I really like it. I am happy to see that your honeymoon with it is still on. I had a feeling that you were going to have a falling out for some reason.
prefer the dial layout of v1, and could not be happier with mine (especially the bracelet version i picked up after i saw your first video)
Having the crown at the 4 o'clock position is better than exposed at 3 o'clock, but for someone that uses a watch like this as a tool, this is still unacceptable. It needs to be durable, and to be blunt, this watch isn't.
Not having crown guards helps keep nice clean lines, but if the crown snags on barbed wire or hooks on a wire under the hood of my truck or even just catches on edge of my pocket as I'm reaching for my knife, it can easily snap off. I've learned this lesson the hard way far too many times.
Sapphire is great for keeping the watch pretty, but not good for work. Acrylic may scratch easier, but it doesn't bust as easy. Yes, I know this watch is mineral crystal, but how many "work" watches have you seen advertised as having sapphire as an _upgrade?_
Dive watches would be better if it wasn't for that nearly useless crap-magnet of a rotating bezel that makes the watch stick up higher than it needs too. Seriously, how many of you own a dive watch and have actually used the bezel?
This watch was designed to look like it can be worn by people that work outside, but people that _actually_ work outside steer clear of them. It's all form over function. Watchmakers, let's come to an understanding. We. Don't. Care. If. It's. Pretty. We care if we can put it on in the morning, work a full day, and then take it off and put it on the nightstand instead of a trash can. This is why most of us wear small cheap watches if we wear them at all.
This watch is not a bad watch, but as far as actually wearing this field watch in the field? Nope. Slap an acrylic crystal on it and sloped 80% guards around the crown and we'll talk. I don't think I'm asking for much.
I wish there was an affordable mechanical watch that could replace my cheap Timex, but like Jayne once said, "If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak."
Preach.
I got the same watch ( black dial ) and after an while with it on my wrist I called my brother and gave it to him ( he was ecstatic , of course ) but despite the fact that it is a great watch , something didn't click at all with me . It literally felt like somebody had given me the watch wasn't mine . Very weird feeling but it can happen .
I know this totally off topic but I was wondering if you (or anyone else for that matter) have suffered the same problem I have always had. I obsess about my watch being out by a few seconds (even with quartz watches) I have had COSC certified quality timepieces - even radio synced and blue tooth synced watches but they are too far removed from the pure essence of what a timepiece should be for me. I have finally found the cure and that is my Steinhart Nav B Uhr with sub dial second hand (non hacking) and a AVI-8 flyboy chrono with a Seiko VK64 that has no running second hand sub dial. You have no idea what a relief it is for me not to obsess how my watch is five or six seconds out. Thanks for taking the time to read this, I'd love to know your thoughts. Cheers. John from Staffordshire England
I bought recently the Orient Ray II black dial and, you should definetly pull the trigger on that one under $200 just Aweosome ¡!
I have the v2 blue dial its a great watch but feels more like a dress watch rather than a field watch and for that reason it's not an everyday watch as I don't want to damage it which I know defeats the object of the watch
Oh man! ... 😞
Love the look of this watch but no hand winding is a no-go for me ... on top of not finding any. Oh well 🤷🏼♂️
"Version two" looks so much better!
Jorey good review and update..I have been on the lookout for one of these. I think it's a stunning watch ⌚
Bought the exact same model off of Amazon for a hundred bucks about three years ago. Was great once you got past it's weird quirks. Unfortunately, the actual movement is now showing some issues ( I basically lose two minutes a day at this point) and it's nowhere close to being worthwhile enough to get serviced
I own 11 Orient watches including this one as well as the cream dial V.1. They all keep time better than my Seiko’s. They all are lacking in the lume department comparatively. Fit and finish is about the same as Seiko.
As a small wrist field watch, the Kuoe Old Smith seems pretty good !
Jory, i just don't know how you tell the time on this watch without staring at it for like 30 seconds. Theres too much going on on the dial to make it legible in a hurry. maybe you get used to it but jumping from watches in your collection won't help.
I have a 6 and 4 inch wrist and i prefer a 40 - 44 mm watch so i guess at the end of the day, its all just personal taste.
version 2 looks a lot more refined
I love my Version 1 - buy the winder with this one!
Still have mine. Now knowing it's hard to find love it more.
Sorry this question is off topic or your video. I just recently came across a Corum watch online. I know nothing about these watches and wad wonder if you had an opinion on them . Gracias.
I am hunting a sapphire that will fit within the orient defender 2. Would you happen to know the crystal dimensions?
I'd rather have hacking and winding than day/date, but cool watch. 👍🏻
I own the V2, it has hacking and winding.
I had the orient defender 2 with the cream color dial and I didn’t bond with it. I think where it was a light colored dial it wore bigger on the wrist.
Why such a big fuss about manual winding on an automatic watch? The least you use the crown the best is for a healthy keyless works and the gasket inside the crown shaft (on Japanese waterproofing system).
Hacking? Yes, it's useful when you want to sync the watch.
Nothing mentioned about Orient's power reserve. The most important complication all watches should have, either manual wind or automatic.
Only Orient offers it, at very affordable prices. Try the European brands.............
Was this filmed on Saturday or Sunday? Because my defender's day hand is always on the day of the week and only goes in-between from midnight to about 4 in the morning.
Ahhh fantastic video as always!
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I absolutely love that watch and that band is so cool
that ironman! LOVE IT!
That strap. Is it 2 parts? I can't find it on mancave leather website. The dark leather behind the watch?
Indoglow!!!!! On the Timex.
I have this same watch and was able to pick it up for under $140 on used market only 2 weeks old. I love this dial layout versus the Gen 2 as you indicated. The main thing for me is the date complication at the 6 o'clock position and the 4 o'clock crown as well.
What is the name, brand model of that strap ?
What's your future 2nd orient?
So, how accurate is it? Or did you say and I missed it........... Or, is that not relevant....
I have version two, and I like it a lot. I use it almost everyday. I have to say that the version 1 is a lot nicer.
How so?
Omg...what is the name of that strap at 0:20 😳😳😳😳😱
I own the Orient Defender 2 in black stainless steel and its such a great watch. The Defender 2 is becoming equally hard to find at retail prices and I was lucky enough to snag one before prices went up. The hacking and hand wind movement are why I prefer this variant for the reasons you talked about. The only negative I see in this (or both) watches is lack of sapphire crystal, but at the true retail price that is easily forgiven. I would also say, though it has a larger case size, the short lugs make it wear smaller and easier on a broader range of wrist sizes. This watch is a ton of fun and I love it.
One of my first mechanical watches is a black dial Orient Disk Rainbow that I still own. It gets put on the for-sale queue often but it always seems to get pulled back before I list it.
Still loving my Orient Ray diver after a year.
How is the glass? Is it still in good condition? I like how Ray 2 looks but might be getting kamasu as it has sapphire crystal...
Hey T3, will you be getting any divers in the shop soon?
Ok, but where do I get one?
Looks nice, I like your strap too.
Used to own one of these. This is the watch I regret flipping the most. The V2 layout doesn't look as good.
What’s the name of the intro music track?
Where did you find that marvellous Bund strap?
Man Cave Leather! My go-to leather strap maker. The best in the biz! www.mancaveleather.com
Great video
Its a little on the big side for my liking but it's a good value for money watch
if the crown is already screw down, the 4 o'clock crown just makes it odd looking with no great benefit.
What strap is that?
That’s not a 4:00 crown. It’s a 3:40 crown (or a not properly aligned 4:00 crown, like the not properly aligned indexes).
I almost though you were Nick Shabazz with that Title.
Love your Timex iron-man
Unreal functionality and doesn’t break the bank.
Pity that you did not test it after one year on the time graph.
I like both versions and display designs, the 6 o'clock date position and 4 o'clock crown is more appealing to me than on the Defender 2, but on that I like the bigger 24hour complication a lot more and the red tipped second hand is a huge design upgrade.
That would be a big plus for me on version 1 but the way it is, I would prefer the Defender 2 slightly.