I had one that wasn't pumping but turned quite freely. I was all set to replace it but, on testing, it was clear the windings were still OK and it was simply the capacitor that had died. Interestingly they print the value(2uF in your case) on the label. It's easy to replace so long as you get one that is physically the right size. Its a motor run capacitor and is typically rated at 450vac available in loads of places.
Cheers for this, got my heating and hot water running again at a time when I don't have the cash to spare for a plumber, few weeks and I'm good so hoping it lasts till then, thank you for taking the time to help others by posting the video
Excellent info - thanks for taking the time to make this. Central heating wouldn't fire up after summer. Followed your guide - pump now working and radiators getting warm. Thanks a lot.
First I thought its like jock can’t be so easy. Later I went basement fixed pump which is not working cost me 2 minutes. It’s my HMO property’s there are 4 pumps every year I spend min £500 for the pumps. Thank you gentleman for this help.
Thanks so much! i tried your method and it worked! although it was a struggle to get the piece to rotate and half of it snapped off! its seems to be running the motor now and heating working fine.
Nice one - had the same issue , knew what to do from this video and a plumber confirmed on the phone good to try on my system - it worked, hopefully a one off . Apparently blockages in the feed pipe can cause issues like this too
This has literally just got me going again! Thanks, although probably means I need to start saving for a new one. Or maybe as it's 2022, I'll be better off not having the heating on at all ☹️
I had a chuckle at that...He talks about needing a special adapter and shows about 100 different security bits, drivers, and a full socket set, but in in reality it turns out to need a 3mm flat bladed screwdriver, plus a slightly larger flat bladed driver for the outer plug! 🤣 A part from that, it's a handy little video, and is applicable to most of the central heating pumps I ve come across over the years...
I had a chuckle at that...He talks about needing a special adapter and shows about 100 different security bits, drivers, and a full socket set, but in in reality it turns out to need a 3mm flat bladed screwdriver, plus a slightly larger flat bladed driver for the outer plug! 🤣 A part from that, it's a handy little video, and is applicable to most of the central heating pumps I ve come across over the years...
I have tried doing this but aborted mission as there was alot of water coming out the pump even before i took the screw fully out. Is this normal or do I need to turn the water supply to the pump off first?
Thanks for your informative video. My radiators were not warming up about a month ago, so had to call a plumber who fixed it in 10 minutes, however the radiators stopped heating up again a few days ago, so I did what u have showed in your video.The radiators are working fine at the moment, however just wanted, to ask u if the pump is always hot when the central heating is working. Mine is very hot at the moment.Thanks.
Mine (the same one) is only warm, even though the heater is on and pumping. Try lowering the thermostat at the wall so that the heater is not on. Leave it a while for your radiators to cool down then check the pump again. If it is still hot even though the water has cooled off then your pump is faulty.
I have floor heating on the ground floor, from the pipes from the floor heating system were hot, everything looked fine, - radiators on the 1st and 2nd floor were working properly extremely hot. 22 degrees room temperature but floor heating on ground floor was not working properly (ice box) 15 degrees. I opened the Grundfos Selectric Central Heating Pump and opened up the little screw and closed it again with the bigger screw in the hope it was getting warmer in the room I have put the room thermostat on 23,5 degrees But after 45 minutes the ground is still cold any idea's ?
@@EducationPineapple Al working again I removed the screw on the pump and it seems the pin was stuck behind the screw and closed it up again all working again
hi, my valves are leaking either side of the pump, looks very similar to yours, tried to tighten, just moved it slightly and they are leaking more now, what is the best remedy.. thank you
@backtodifuture if your pump works still...shut off above and below if you can, otherwise drain the water by running a tap whilst shutting off the stop cock. Add ptfe tape or if there's a silicon seal, replace the silicon seal....ptfe tape is cheapest option , can add plumbing paste if you want.
Hi Sir, can you please help. We have run out of money and boiler decided to break. Bleed the radiators a couple of days ago and since then the radiators are working absolutely perfect but we have no hot water. Boiler is an old Halstead Buckingham III CF50 with the same pump installed. On water I don’t hear / feel any sound or noise or movement within the pump however when I turn on only heating then I can feel and hear some vibrations and movements within the pump. Can you please help. At the moment we are heating our space with boiler and using electricity to heat the water cylinder. Please help and save. Thank you
I hope I can help. Pause the video at 8 seconds. You will see a small white box where the three copper pipes converge. That unit selects either hot water or heating or both at the same time. Remove the cover and really the whole unit for now and rotate the valves by hand. What has happened is that unit is broken and stuck on heating only. The unit is about £20 new. You can do this by hand until you have the money. God bless and keep warm. Watch this next video I made in 2018 to show you more what I am discussing here...th-cam.com/video/BEdiQP4vkeM/w-d-xo.html
I have the same one! When I opened it water keep going outside nonstop!!! Is that normal or water shoud stop droping??? My radiators are not that hot like they used to be.
@omistic you should change the pump...see one of my other videos....if it is a little bit of water non stop then that is normal...if it comes out slowly then that is fine.... your radiators could he blocked up with black gunck.
Could i use a pump like this to boost water upto a radiator in a loft? (Converted). But put it away from the boiler so its on the vertical that goes up from the bathroom? Or are these best placed next to the boiler itself? Thanks
I think protecting the boiler is more important, so if the pump was located elsewhere and further away from the boiler the efficiency of the water flow going through the pump could be effected though it is factual that water is generally considered incompressible. Think of your own heart...it is pumping blood all around your body but your toes tend to get issues if your heart becomes weaker. I think the easiest solution in your case is either switch the little switch on the side of the pump to number 3 abs see if that works, or simply install a higher rated pump that can deal with pumping up a negative head. Search for shower pumps as a way to educate yourself on negative heads because some shower pumps cannot pump up negatively. I would say just choose a very high pressure rated pump.
Thanks. It turns freely but no joy. I have lights on the side which aren't on, so suspect I may have another issue. Mine is part of an underfloor heating system the wiring box is sending and receiving ok. Any tips for what to try next please? 🙏
Brilliant video. If I ever drain down my system, the pump ALWAYS makes a humming noise, and the boiler stops working, despite clearing all the air from all the bleeds, and all the rads. Really frustrating. Any ideas what it could be? Cheers.
I did this technique for about 5 years until I had to change the pump. I have another video on how I changed the pump very quickly. It could be that your pump has failed. It could be also that the valves are closed...or partially closed...see my other video '...change Grundos pump...' because the stop valves above and below the pump works by being on if handle to valve is on when pointing North South, but is off when the valves are pointing East/ west....if you get what I mean.
@@EducationPineapple thank you so much for the reply. I don't actually get it, but as soon as I watch the other vid, I will. Every time this has happened to me after draining the system down. I think it is that the screw inside needs slackening off after draining. It seems to coincidental that the pump fails every time. I only used to bleed the pump after draining, not undo the little screw inside. I'll let you know what happens 👍🏽
@@MohammedAli-1 it means if you turn the water shut off valves 90degrees it will be off, another 90 degrees and it will be back on, so check you haven't shut the water off at the water shut off valves.
@@EducationPineapple Hi yes I checked and they are both north/south so that is good 👍🏽 Do you know where I can get one from, for a good price. Most people were saying they cost around £150, but looking online they seem to be £250-£300
Crikey 15 years! Had a British Gas / Worcester Bosh boiler pump replaced and it's gone again in only 3 years! Died after Cadent dug up the gas mains and was off for only a few days!
@ZoeSham-x5n that does not make sense... sounds like dodgy plumbing...sounds like you need your water tank at a higher place in your house. If it is in a high place you shouldn't need a pump if there's nothing connected to the system. Try switching it off and see if you still get water, or if it affects anything. Then you can work it out from there the real purpose if any.
Do the least destructive checks first....turn off power to all units including the wall controller. Turn back on and check. Next try selecting no central heating on by turning down by dialing the temperature dial down to say 5C...if the pump is still coming on, then the control box on the wall where cables enter the pump is faulty....get an electrician to change the box. Observe the electrician turn off the power to the digital unit that has cables going to the pump by going to your home's main fuse box and flipping or pressing the button on the pertinent fuse off before the electrician works on removing the controller.
May l please ask for your help, my largest radiator was cold at the bottom, so removed it flushed it thru and refilled it, bled it & added inhibitor. It is still cold at the bottom but so are all of my others radiators. Water pipe going in hot, but exit valve cold. (It is fully open). Could it be the pump? Thank you so much.
I know this is an old post, my Grant combi 90 mk 2 ,( outdoor oil fed boiler) keeps tripping out the burner........ im getting no noise at all from the pump even after opening the screw, turning the impellers (which seemed to have a lot of play like a worn out turbo on a car).... would you from your experience say the pump is goosed? The boiler was imstalled 2006 if that helps and is the original pump...... hot water diverter valve and hot water blender valve changed 18 momths ago and secondary heat exchanger changed at same time...any advice?
@@EducationPineapple yeah i kind of figured as the pump is as old as the boiler and making no sound at all that its dead... thankyou for the reply my friend 👍
Did you turn off both isolation valves ,one above and one below before undoing the central bleeding screw to get at the fin retaining screw inside , ? Thanks
Hello! Can anyone help me with my issue? Namely, from some reason, heating is not working, and I tried to check the pump, by unscrewing the cap as in this video (to try to start it manually by screwing the inside screw), but when I removed the cap on the pump, water started to come out in the stream. I closed it quickly, as pressure started to go down. Is it normal thing? Do I need to ignore the water stream and to try quickly to unscrew the screw inside the pump to check if it is jammed?
Ok, I will try again. I've just checked and noticed that I can hear the pump, when I put it on. But if I can hear, does it mean that it works correctly? Or to try to roll it anyway...?
Oh no you do not have to turn the water off or drain the tank to do that. There is a tiny bit of water that comes out from the sealed unit, which is normal.
Please share your contact no, I would like to learn more from you. I watched your video and know how to fix pump, Plumber wouldn't tell me who came to fix this pump and he done same . I am plumbing student level 1. Thanks for sharing this video
I had one that wasn't pumping but turned quite freely. I was all set to replace it but, on testing, it was clear the windings were still OK and it was simply the capacitor that had died. Interestingly they print the value(2uF in your case) on the label. It's easy to replace so long as you get one that is physically the right size. Its a motor run capacitor and is typically rated at 450vac available in loads of places.
thank you so much! you have filled in some of the many gaps in my knowledge of how these pumps function!!
Yes mate. My pump was full of air. After follow your steps started work again. Thank you.
Cheers for this, got my heating and hot water running again at a time when I don't have the cash to spare for a plumber, few weeks and I'm good so hoping it lasts till then, thank you for taking the time to help others by posting the video
Mine's still working, so try this trick a few times before replacing the pump.
@@EducationPineapple good to know thanks, I'll try this as long as I can get away with it, will give me more time to save up for new pump
Excellent info - thanks for taking the time to make this. Central heating wouldn't fire up after summer. Followed your guide - pump now working and radiators getting warm. Thanks a lot.
First I thought its like jock can’t be so easy. Later I went basement fixed pump which is not working cost me 2 minutes. It’s my HMO property’s there are 4 pumps every year I spend min £500 for the pumps. Thank you gentleman for this help.
Thanks so much! i tried your method and it worked! although it was a struggle to get the piece to rotate and half of it snapped off! its seems to be running the motor now and heating working fine.
Nice one - had the same issue , knew what to do from this video and a plumber confirmed on the phone good to try on my system - it worked, hopefully a one off . Apparently blockages in the feed pipe can cause issues like this too
This has literally just got me going again! Thanks, although probably means I need to start saving for a new one. Or maybe as it's 2022, I'll be better off not having the heating on at all ☹️
I did that for 3 years before I had to change it.
thanks..greeting from Croatia !!
Thanks, this solved the issue with my pump. Radiators heating up now.
I wouldn't say you need special tools. Just a couple of flat bladed screwdrivers of the right width.
3mm flat head as advised in manual
I had a chuckle at that...He talks about needing a special adapter and shows about 100 different security bits, drivers, and a full socket set, but in in reality it turns out to need a 3mm flat bladed screwdriver, plus a slightly larger flat bladed driver for the outer plug! 🤣
A part from that, it's a handy little video, and is applicable to most of the central heating pumps I ve come across over the years...
I had a chuckle at that...He talks about needing a special adapter and shows about 100 different security bits, drivers, and a full socket set, but in in reality it turns out to need a 3mm flat bladed screwdriver, plus a slightly larger flat bladed driver for the outer plug! 🤣
A part from that, it's a handy little video, and is applicable to most of the central heating pumps I ve come across over the years...
I could hear the sediment when u started the pump. Maybe your strainer/filter needs to be more frequently maintained ;)
I have tried doing this but aborted mission as there was alot of water coming out the pump even before i took the screw fully out. Is this normal or do I need to turn the water supply to the pump off first?
Thanks for your informative video. My radiators were not warming up about a month ago, so had to call a plumber who fixed it in 10 minutes, however the radiators stopped heating up again a few days ago, so I did what u have showed in your video.The radiators are working fine at the moment, however just wanted, to ask u if the pump is always hot when the central heating is working. Mine is very hot at the moment.Thanks.
Mine (the same one) is only warm, even though the heater is on and pumping. Try lowering the thermostat at the wall so that the heater is not on. Leave it a while for your radiators to cool down then check the pump again. If it is still hot even though the water has cooled off then your pump is faulty.
@@EducationPineapple Thanks for ur prompt reply. I will try what u have said and see how it goes. Thanks once again.
I have floor heating on the ground floor, from the pipes from the floor heating system were hot, everything looked fine,
- radiators on the 1st and 2nd floor were working properly extremely hot. 22 degrees room temperature
but floor heating on ground floor was not working properly (ice box) 15 degrees. I opened the Grundfos Selectric Central Heating Pump and opened up the little screw and closed it again with the bigger screw in the hope it was getting warmer in the room I have put the room thermostat on 23,5 degrees
But after 45 minutes the ground is still cold any idea's ?
Sludge has built up and sunk to the lower floors, or pump is weak, try turning the pumps power up to notch 3.
@@EducationPineapple Al working again I removed the screw on the pump and it seems the pin was stuck behind the screw and closed it up again all working again
hi, my valves are leaking either side of the pump, looks very similar to yours, tried to tighten, just moved it slightly and they are leaking more now, what is the best remedy.. thank you
@backtodifuture if your pump works still...shut off above and below if you can, otherwise drain the water by running a tap whilst shutting off the stop cock. Add ptfe tape or if there's a silicon seal, replace the silicon seal....ptfe tape is cheapest option , can add plumbing paste if you want.
Hi Sir, can you please help. We have run out of money and boiler decided to break. Bleed the radiators a couple of days ago and since then the radiators are working absolutely perfect but we have no hot water. Boiler is an old Halstead Buckingham III CF50 with the same pump installed. On water I don’t hear / feel any sound or noise or movement within the pump however when I turn on only heating then I can feel and hear some vibrations and movements within the pump. Can you please help. At the moment we are heating our space with boiler and using electricity to heat the water cylinder. Please help and save. Thank you
I hope I can help. Pause the video at 8 seconds. You will see a small white box where the three copper pipes converge. That unit selects either hot water or heating or both at the same time. Remove the cover and really the whole unit for now and rotate the valves by hand. What has happened is that unit is broken and stuck on heating only. The unit is about £20 new. You can do this by hand until you have the money. God bless and keep warm. Watch this next video I made in 2018 to show you more what I am discussing here...th-cam.com/video/BEdiQP4vkeM/w-d-xo.html
I have the same one! When I opened it water keep going outside nonstop!!! Is that normal or water shoud stop droping???
My radiators are not that hot like they used to be.
@omistic you should change the pump...see one of my other videos....if it is a little bit of water non stop then that is normal...if it comes out slowly then that is fine.... your radiators could he blocked up with black gunck.
Could i use a pump like this to boost water upto a radiator in a loft? (Converted). But put it away from the boiler so its on the vertical that goes up from the bathroom? Or are these best placed next to the boiler itself?
Thanks
I think protecting the boiler is more important, so if the pump was located elsewhere and further away from the boiler the efficiency of the water flow going through the pump could be effected though it is factual that water is generally considered incompressible. Think of your own heart...it is pumping blood all around your body but your toes tend to get issues if your heart becomes weaker. I think the easiest solution in your case is either switch the little switch on the side of the pump to number 3 abs see if that works, or simply install a higher rated pump that can deal with pumping up a negative head. Search for shower pumps as a way to educate yourself on negative heads because some shower pumps cannot pump up negatively. I would say just choose a very high pressure rated pump.
Do you need to turn the water off
Or heating system
No unless you think the small amount of dripping water for the 1 minute job will cause a problem
@@EducationPineapple have you use the heat hero b4 is it any good
@@fablan3308 no not used before..
Stick to the approved versions of these. Ask at a plumbers outlet for their advice what's best if changing heaters
@@EducationPineapple I cannot turn the power off on mine supply switch the main electricity box off is it dangerous to do it with electricity on
@@fablan3308 I think you can catch the few drops of water with a towel
Thanks. It turns freely but no joy. I have lights on the side which aren't on, so suspect I may have another issue. Mine is part of an underfloor heating system the wiring box is sending and receiving ok. Any tips for what to try next please? 🙏
Least destructive method possible which is to check the fuse hasn't blown.
Brilliant video. If I ever drain down my system, the pump ALWAYS makes a humming noise, and the boiler stops working, despite clearing all the air from all the bleeds, and all the rads. Really frustrating. Any ideas what it could be? Cheers.
I did this technique for about 5 years until I had to change the pump. I have another video on how I changed the pump very quickly. It could be that your pump has failed. It could be also that the valves are closed...or partially closed...see my other video '...change Grundos pump...' because the stop valves above and below the pump works by being on if handle to valve is on when pointing North South, but is off when the valves are pointing East/ west....if you get what I mean.
@@EducationPineapple thank you so much for the reply. I don't actually get it, but as soon as I watch the other vid, I will. Every time this has happened to me after draining the system down. I think it is that the screw inside needs slackening off after draining. It seems to coincidental that the pump fails every time. I only used to bleed the pump after draining, not undo the little screw inside. I'll let you know what happens 👍🏽
@@MohammedAli-1 it means if you turn the water shut off valves 90degrees it will be off, another 90 degrees and it will be back on, so check you haven't shut the water off at the water shut off valves.
@@EducationPineapple Hi yes I checked and they are both north/south so that is good 👍🏽 Do you know where I can get one from, for a good price. Most people were saying they cost around £150, but looking online they seem to be £250-£300
@@MohammedAli-1 i got mine for £30 new ....shop on eBay...
Did the pump need cleaning out?or is it better to fit new,
thanks.
Filter may need cleaning. The pump just needs turning a little. Haven't changed my pump yet.
@@EducationPineapple Thanks.
Crikey 15 years! Had a British Gas / Worcester Bosh boiler pump replaced and it's gone again in only 3 years! Died after Cadent dug up the gas mains and was off for only a few days!
Is it normal for these pump to work contnuosly? My pump is not stopping even though i only have a water tank connected to it.
@ZoeSham-x5n that does not make sense... sounds like dodgy plumbing...sounds like you need your water tank at a higher place in your house. If it is in a high place you shouldn't need a pump if there's nothing connected to the system. Try switching it off and see if you still get water, or if it affects anything. Then you can work it out from there the real purpose if any.
Good video...but can you tell me why a central heating pump stays on continuously and how would we turn it off as ours won't turn off! Thanx
Do the least destructive checks first....turn off power to all units including the wall controller. Turn back on and check. Next try selecting no central heating on by turning down by dialing the temperature dial down to say 5C...if the pump is still coming on, then the control box on the wall where cables enter the pump is faulty....get an electrician to change the box. Observe the electrician turn off the power to the digital unit that has cables going to the pump by going to your home's main fuse box and flipping or pressing the button on the pertinent fuse off before the electrician works on removing the controller.
@@EducationPineapple Thank you very much for your reply...we will try what you say, thanx (;o)
May l please ask for your help, my largest radiator was cold at the bottom, so removed it flushed it thru and refilled it, bled it & added inhibitor. It is still cold at the bottom but so are all of my others radiators. Water pipe going in hot, but exit valve cold. (It is fully open). Could it be the pump? Thank you so much.
There's a switch on gringos pump...select l...ll...or lll. Try selection full power lll ..it does sound like your pump is weak
I know this is an old post, my Grant combi 90 mk 2 ,( outdoor oil fed boiler) keeps tripping out the burner........ im getting no noise at all from the pump even after opening the screw, turning the impellers (which seemed to have a lot of play like a worn out turbo on a car).... would you from your experience say the pump is goosed? The boiler was imstalled 2006 if that helps and is the original pump...... hot water diverter valve and hot water blender valve changed 18 momths ago and secondary heat exchanger changed at same time...any advice?
sounds like you need a new pump
@@EducationPineapple yeah i kind of figured as the pump is as old as the boiler and making no sound at all that its dead... thankyou for the reply my friend 👍
Did you turn off both isolation valves ,one above and one below before undoing the central bleeding screw to get at the fin retaining screw inside , ? Thanks
my pump got extremely hot and it's not circulating, will your method work if pumps is extremely hot? maybe winding shorted?
Replace your pump in your case...see further video on my channel for this.
Thanks. I went to bleed mine and the water is spraying out constant. Is that meant to happen
That means no air left. That is good, so now tighten the screw after you free the turning rotor.
Is it ok for a pump to be upside down like in your video?
Yes but the important thing is which way the water flows to match your system.
Hello! Can anyone help me with my issue? Namely, from some reason, heating is not working, and I tried to check the pump, by unscrewing the cap as in this video (to try to start it manually by screwing the inside screw), but when I removed the cap on the pump, water started to come out in the stream. I closed it quickly, as pressure started to go down. Is it normal thing? Do I need to ignore the water stream and to try quickly to unscrew the screw inside the pump to check if it is jammed?
Yes ignore the water and try to spin the pump like in the video
Ok, I will try again. I've just checked and noticed that I can hear the pump, when I put it on. But if I can hear, does it mean that it works correctly? Or to try to roll it anyway...?
Excellent
Do you need to turn off the water and drain the line before you take off that outer screw??
Oh no you do not have to turn the water off or drain the tank to do that. There is a tiny bit of water that comes out from the sealed unit, which is normal.
Good info by video a bit iffy at times
Please share your contact no, I would like to learn more from you. I watched your video and know how to fix pump, Plumber wouldn't tell me who came to fix this pump and he done same . I am plumbing student level 1. Thanks for sharing this video
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Would the fault that you fixed in this video cause the fuse in the switch to pop ?
It should not unless a short