Conservation: The Poynter Room Grill | V&A

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  • Home to a trio of refreshment rooms, the V&A was the first museum in the world to have a public restaurant. Inside one of these - the Poynter Room - is an ornately decorated cast iron and brass grill, designed by Sir Edward Poynter in 1866.
    Join Senior Curator Alicia Robinson and Senior Metals Conservator Donna Stevens as they undertake a conservation project to recreate the magnificence of the metalwork. Firstly they examine the details depicting Tudor roses, eagles, Japanese-inspired suns and waves, before brushing off loose dust, applying solution to areas of rust, and finally waxing and buffing the grill to return its shine.
    Find out more about the story behind the world's first museum cafe: www.vam.ac.uk/articles/a-firs...

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  • @tangojuli209
    @tangojuli209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I choked up at the beauty and design. The contrast of the two metals. Gulp.

  • @hilaryepstein6013
    @hilaryepstein6013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very interesting. The V&A cafe rooms are some of the most beautiful interiors in London open to the public.

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Gorgeous object. They don't make them like that anymore! Thank you for the video!

    • @rumpelpumpel7687
      @rumpelpumpel7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xD "they did not make "them" as in "bulk production" back then either. It's a single piece. And you can still get stuff like this if you can afford it. ;) i was working in a metal artisan's manufactory where copper alloys and stainless steel were formed to fit various interiors. From yachts and cruise line ships to huge mansions and high class shops (Dior, Hermès de Paris, D&G). It is a dieing art tbh since nobody really can afford hand-made stuff with such quality, except for those who are disgustingly rich and use it as prestige objects. Most of our private costumers were newly rich idiots who wanted a fancy golden handrail for their mansions and stuff comparable to that ... blingbling to show off basically ... but the shop interiors were always cool tasks. and we had some contracts with cities and churches to restore old stuff. That was awesome work to do!!

  • @cstz
    @cstz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Beautiful object and great video. It's always such a joy to see the enthusiasm of the V&A staff!

  • @rebeccamoore1268
    @rebeccamoore1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching the videos. I dream of being able to come to the museum one day. But for now thank you ever so much for sharing it with me and the rest of the world.

  • @Weesperbuurt
    @Weesperbuurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh…brass waves! As it’s a grill, I saw licks of flame. Amazing restoration.

    • @melissaharris3389
      @melissaharris3389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought it looked like fire as well.

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sun is rising from the sea.
      The origional sketches of the cut outs also look a lot more like waces that the finished piece.

  • @Metronoma1
    @Metronoma1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing! This is what i love to see❤️😀 can you maybe make more videos of the museum interiors? The ceiling paintings, the stucco and mouldings, the staircases and so on? Would be amazing🙏🙂

  • @Sunshine-zm1fx
    @Sunshine-zm1fx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was great! I'd love to see more similar objects. I loved Lucy Worsley's series about the home, and any time I see an object that was used in the home< it's so interesting to think of what life back then was like on an every day basis.

  • @garyrebholz4139
    @garyrebholz4139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I wonder if the decorative brass hinges are a phoenix with chicks, and not eagles ...given the heat / flame connection, and the embossed suns above.

    • @sorou
      @sorou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree!

    • @rupertprawnworthy758
      @rupertprawnworthy758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In mythology the pheonix didn't have chicks.

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rupertprawnworthy758 Archaeologist here. Only one phoenix exists at any one time. It lives, dies, and is reborn in the flames.
      Eagles are part of Christianity due to them being seen at the foot of God and being symbols of the Ressurection due to the imagery of their raising flight.
      A mother Eagle in particular is liken to God in how she protects her young with her wings.
      The fact that it's on a grate may have something to do with God's flame. As far as I know the Tudor rose has nothing to do with fire either.

  • @augustsnowfall5189
    @augustsnowfall5189 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see this up close and personal. The level of detail and mathematical precision involved was something I never expected I would be drawn to learn about. Thank you for the education.❤

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful rooms for the people

  • @raesmith2164
    @raesmith2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The craftsmanship is ✨ c h e f ' s k i s s ✨

  • @londonhodnet4079
    @londonhodnet4079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will have a good look next time I pop in for a coffee

  • @janetbeebe6578
    @janetbeebe6578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning

  • @pearpenguin
    @pearpenguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    But can you grill a steak on it? Was it originally for cooking?

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It did broiled chopped and steaks. It's not operational now.
      The 1st class menu was Jugged Hare, Steak Pudding (pie), and seasonal tarts.
      The 2nd class menu was Veal Cutlets, Poached Egg and Spinach, and Buns and Sponge Cake.

  • @suzaynnschick158
    @suzaynnschick158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Perplexed here. What did the grill do? Was it for heating or cooking? Was it part of a forced air heating system or did it contain burning coal or wood? I don't see a fire box and the slotted panels they pulled out don't look like part of any coal-fired cook stove I've ever seen. It's beautiful and finely made and they did a nice job of cleaning it, but what was it originally for? Does it do anything now other than look amazing?

    • @MizzMaree7
      @MizzMaree7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? It's being treated as a purely decorative thing, instead of a useful item at one time.

    • @SA-bc6jw
      @SA-bc6jw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "the smaller Grill Room (now the Poynter Room) was fitted out to 'broil chops and steaks'. Painter Edward J. Poynter was chosen to design this dining room, which had a remarkably different feel to the Centre Room. A cast-iron open range with an open grill dominated one wall, with 'hot chambers' on either side where plates were warmed. "

    • @vamuseum
      @vamuseum  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This article should tell you a bit more about how the grill was used: www.vam.ac.uk/articles/a-first-of-its-kind-history-of-the-refreshment-rooms

    • @hedgiecc
      @hedgiecc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1866 was a long time ago, and presumably before Aga perfected cooking in a fire range. So the thing is likely to be very smoky in use.I very much think it would not be a good idea to try it out.

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The little doors (whose hinges are the eagles) were compartments for heating plates as well.

  • @shawnitawilliams1388
    @shawnitawilliams1388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is absolutely a wonderful, educational video, but why is it under the ASMR category? Just wondering. 🤔
    Stunning piece by the way.

    • @vamuseum
      @vamuseum  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This might be because our subscribers really enjoy the ASMR at the museum series: th-cam.com/play/PLe2ihXndm5jseo_RGEGeEbPy09z0nlmZE.html

  • @g-dcomplex1609
    @g-dcomplex1609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    early art nouveau masterpiece

  • @LarissaTheBrave
    @LarissaTheBrave ปีที่แล้ว

    about the majolica tiles, is there any connection between iberian azulejo's and poynters use of the majolica technique?

  • @heinrichjanevanrensburg1900
    @heinrichjanevanrensburg1900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👍.

  • @nokiot9
    @nokiot9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those “tudor roses” look a lot like sakura blossoms

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is either a Lancastrian Rose or a York Rose, as the Tudor Rise is both of them together. 6 rounded petals and a large pitted centre. It's definitely a British design element.
      Sakuras have double-pointed petals and obvious stamens.

  • @CrowSkeleton
    @CrowSkeleton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please say at least a handful of lucky patrons get chestnuts or Welsh raerbit cooked in the artwork. It is too magnificent and big-hearted to be deprived of its function.

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The grill is not operational. The 'hot chambers' were for warming plates. The open grill did broiled chops and steaks.

  • @robertpadfield1895
    @robertpadfield1895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet those eagles are phoenixes

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is only ever one Phoenix.
      Mother eagles are in the bible.

  • @user-hh9mg2xt8t
    @user-hh9mg2xt8t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not use it?

  • @bluerosefire_club4205
    @bluerosefire_club4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @mikebeatstsb7030
    @mikebeatstsb7030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it have a time delay Croc pot function tho...?

  • @hamburgerhelperflick
    @hamburgerhelperflick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But was it ever functional? Was it ever used to cook the food that was served in the restaurant?

    • @vamuseum
      @vamuseum  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This etching shows it in use! collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O723695/the-grill-room-etching-john-watkins-re/

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was the smaller grill room.

  • @ableadelaide5893
    @ableadelaide5893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The light fittings look out of place

  • @pedrosousa8971
    @pedrosousa8971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those horrible modern lamps ceiling...

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The origional lamp of the Gamble room were just basic cones.

  • @BellisVintage
    @BellisVintage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a lover of the aesthetic movement, the V&A is, I feel, squandering one of its greatest assets. My experience is that whilst guests of the cafe are effectively at their "feeding troughs" they fail to appreciate the delicacies of the surroundings. It is full of hideous (no doubt easy to clean) modern tables and chairs, smelly (inevitably), incredibly noisy (hard floors), screaming children, staff clearing the floors and tables of dirty crockery. And people generally are too desperately looking for a free table rather than absorbing the art itself.
    Why do they not do as other museums/galleries do - put the cafe in a more functional space (attached to the ubiquitous gift shop). Then use the original cafeteria as a museum space - highlighting the aesthetic movement /arts and crafts etc - so the rest of us can quietly contemplate its exquisite beauty. I realise its original purpose was a cafeteria but cluttering up this gem in such a way seems tantamount to aesthetic blight.

  • @invinciblecucumber
    @invinciblecucumber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You see guy's, imperialism pays off..😳

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Japan was never in the British Empire. It was a Coloniser itself. They had just started letting foreigners into the country at this point.

  • @bobtornton1436
    @bobtornton1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    all the room are amazing and they put these terrible chairs and table in the middle. Lol even the curator of the museum don't get the point of what has been done before. Shame !

  • @lynn858
    @lynn858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OT: But seeing two people that close to each other, presumably some time in the last 2 years, without masks, is distracting and upsetting.

    • @rsmith6366
      @rsmith6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do vaccination and testing. The conservators are in a bubble together.