@@KAI-jl1ph I'm not sure, this new defensive structure and attacking rotation down the left side isn't something I've seen pep do before. But I don't know borrell or his teams well enough to know if that's where it stems from.
Arsenal fans were saying that arteta is shit and he ruined the club but after 4 wins against bottom teams they started dreaming and comparing him to big managers
You simply can’t hate Rory. He knows his football, he seems like a calm guy as well. One of the few Chelsea fans who are actually very calm. Rory has to be here more often
I mean I’d be calm too they play 5 at the back all Chelsea fans should be calm and patient they play boring football but yeah Rory need to be on here more
Most people forget that Sir Alex’s greatest achievement is not even at Utd, its winning the European Winner’s Cup facing Real Madrid in the final then going on to win the European Super Cup. All this with Aberdeen fc. No other manager’s achievement comes close
@@hellohi1445 Porto was good but his team actually had fairly good, known players. SAF managed to win it with players who weren’t even registered as professionals!
@@tauheed6550 I think Porto only had good players cause Jose gave them the spotlight in the ucl and they used that to progress, e.g luis Figo But yeh SAF was unreal in that Aberdeen win, he was so dominant at united that people forgot he was at Aberdeen.
And? Why do people think that winning trophies with weak teams makes you the best manager? I know it's a big challenge and Pep might not do it with weak teams but with good teams he is unmatchable, that's surely as hard to do because others are nowhere near Pep.
This podcast has its days where there are deluded Arsenal fans and then other days where its just world class discussions. Love the podcast keep it up guys
@@ps4legend579 Oh no definitely as a neutral it’s definitely hard to listen to the podcast sometimes. I get it back ur team it adds to the culture but you should also be a little realistic aswell
@@commonraymond It wasn't even a bad take, with regards to how Arsenal progress in the next few years. It's just the issue that most people have superficial judgement, when it comes to football.
@@hellohi1445 If you know who Expressions Oozing is, then it doesn't matter if you are a Arsenal fan, because majority of you love that Tottenham supporter.
@@emilezola1458 I’m a Tottenham fan. Secondly, I wrote that comment because I don’t think the guy knows half the things Rory has said about arsenal lmao. “I’m an arsenal fan u can’t hate him” like what? He only likes arsenal when it comes to comparing them to rivals.
@@AnonymousYtPage it’s because pep has respect and worked with him. When arteta is decent but no way in the fuck did arteta teach shit to pep football related because pep is literally messi in managers whilst arteta is Memphis depay.
The thing about Man utds period of dominance is the years they didnt win it they were razor close... In 2012 they lost it on goal difference with one aguero kick in the last minute... Through the 90s they lost it by one point multiple times.... All the other times they won it... Fergie kept that team at 80/90% consistantly... But I would agree Pep has taken the team to 95%...but they have to keep it going... It always feels like a team wont be stopped... But things can change very quickly... Pep leaves and that can rock the boat...
thing is tho how dominant peps are : most goals in premier league calender year in history he broke the record 4 times and each year it was his own record won by the most wins in a calender year aswell its crazy
But could Fergie survive in the modern premier league era. The prem was far less competitive in his time. And his champions league record is very very poor.
@@weww982 easily. That was Fergies biggest strength was reinventing himself over time. He would have the best modern coaches for sure. This is recency bias that the prem was not as competive now. In the late 00s the UCL semis later stages were full of United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal on repeated seasons. The prem went through a lull between 2014-2018 then the last few years have been pretty much a 2 horse race between Liverpool and City. I'm not even sure the last years have been that competitive in the prem. Liv won it easily in 20 and City won it easily last year - as well with no away fans made it even easier for them. You can say that some of the mid table teams have improved over the last 5 years perhaps. But Norwich, Newcastle etc of this season are no better than the relegation fodder of 10-15 years ago. Teams like Middlesborough and Fulham were going far in Europa league back then also.
no way this man just said pep learned from arteta instead of arteta learning from pep. Also the reason city didnt win a trophy his first season was because his fullbacks were the likes of sagna, clichy, kolarov and zabaleta (all over 30) and bravo (who couldnt make a save in the league) in that team. He bought ederson and walker and the team completely changed
they went from a shakey top 4 in their first season and then 100 points the next. also all the players got another season to adapt to Pep which was extremely important
@@Ashley-iz9iy thanks to incredible recruitment and development of players like sterling and stones. I won't say that arteta did nothing (because thats not true) but you can't credit their amazing success because of arteta imo
Zabaleta and kolarov were more than good enough, zabaleta stayed in the Prem another good few seasons and know kolarov was part that class Roma team in cl and pissed the serie A last year at inter
@@zealo6756 he just needs to bring pep in as a guest to call him out on his bullshit lmao. The guys already won the league already, according to sharky it’s thanks to arteta 😂😂
Alex Ferguson reinvented that squad probably 4 times. The early-mid 90’s team, the late 90’s treble team, the van nistelrooy era, the Ronaldo era, and then post Ronaldo era. How he even made a champions league final in 2011 is baffling - no one else would’ve got that team there
I'm not sure if the pep and alex debate was meant to mainly focused on the english side of it but I found it quite surprising that pep's barcelona didn't factor into the discussion. Most people regard that 09-12 team as one of the best sides we've seen, if not the best, for all they accomplished and the way they played.
All about the teams you inherit. Sir Alex built at least 3 teams that are considered among the best in English history. From nothing. Pep inherited the best team in the world at Barca and Bayern, and walked into City who had the most expensive squad in the world at the time. Sir Alex took over a team of alcoholics in 86.
@@RoYaLLeGiiTHD Man signed Alves, pique, villa, mascherano, Alexis Sanchez, Fabregas and zlatan. He also sold dinho and deco when he first came. Yes he did inherit a few really good players but he also brought a few good players in. He could of failed with that team but instead he made them the best team in the world and possibly the best side ever to play the game.
@@ryanclark541 he didn’t inherit much or anything lol that Barça side was extremely poor under Riijkaard. Dinho wasn’t even showing up to training and their team was shambolic. Finished 3rd in la liga and got knocked out in the champions league. Pep came in and revolutionized the club. He sold Ronaldinho who at the time was the best player in the world. He used Busquets and Pedro and brought them from la masia. Changed Xavi and Iniesta’s role and made them one of the best if not the best midfield trio.
Loving the pod more with each episode you post sharks!! Love rory as a guest btw and would love to see him on more. I think maybe you could get subsitutes sitting behind the camera for when shaun has an illnes again and just needs a rest, all love from the Netherlands!!!!
love the pod! maybe you should try making a list of your favourite player wearing each jersey number, so favourite number 1, 2, 3,...etc until 10 or 15 or however much you want. would be a good series to start.
Shaun rlly thinks Sir Alex wouldn’t of brought in the city players they have now, yet he brought arguably the best player in the game to the club and numerous other talents, and nowadays scouting is soo much easier
People are forgetting Fergie doing things like finding the time to go scout players like Varane personally. Fergie scouted untold numbers of players ranging from good-world class.
@@muctarjb5898 think ferguson would have signed someone like Grealish, he wanted gundogan when he was at Dortmund, mahrez is probably another player he would go for
Arsenal fans need to realise that as good as your young players are, it’s not gnna be a constant trajectory upwards. Just bc one of them scores 15 goals in a season at 19, doesn’t mean when he’s 23 he’ll score 40 goals 😂It doesn’t work like that
Acting like both Pep and Fergie didn’t inherit one of the best classes of youth teams of all time. Both spent bare money too, specifically United in the early days
4:25 pep redefined football, not city. He did it at Barca, he would play Wingers, CAMs at CF.. Messi was a winger, flipped him to a CF.. thing is peps preferred style would be a team full of centre mids and 3 defenders.. hold the ball pass it into the net.. it’s total football, to me it’s just beautiful..
Pep picked up a City team who were winning the league every 2-3 years and just made them more dominant. SAF picked up a United team who were fighting relegation and made them into the most dominate side in English football history.
@@StephenCarrIsBald umm what?? You can verify this btw City, Newcastle, Liverpool all spent more than United in the 90s. Plus SAF isn't even top 10 in terms of highest net spends throughout the 2000s but was the most successful. After glazers came in there were 5 prem teams who outspent united but they won the 3peat and ucl.
You watched Gary Neville play ball compared to walker and cancelo and think fergie can win a cl with city lol. He wouldn’t even know how to use cancelo. He doesn’t even buy cancelo and then use him as a left back that plays centrally. Just respect the changes pep has made
Listening to this in October 2022 and Sharky's takes are spot on Tuchel sacked by Chelsea ✔️ Arsenal challenging to win the PL ✔️ Saka and Martinelli killing it ✔️
Pep is a manager to build an amazing group of players and dominate. AF as able to take a lesser group and give an air of invincibility whilst maintaining a high level, City are just at a higher level but only in shorter bursts
Pep is the best coach ever, he completed football at Barcelona multiple times. He’s the statistically most successful coach in German history. All while bringing new and innovative ideas to the Bundesliga. Lots of young German managers cite Pep as their inspiration(Guys like Tuchel and Nagalsmann). And when he came to England, everyone thought he would fall on his face. 6 years later people are counting down the days he leaves because he’s taking the piss out of the Prem.
Not really sure what Rory’s point about City redefining football was. The two most dominant teams of our lifetimes played without strikers. Barcelona played Messi false 9 and Spain had essentially 6 midfielders in front of a back 4
That spain team was very much a reflection Pep's barca, with the entire midfield being composed of Barcelona players. Spain played that way because Barca played that way, and that all leads back to Pep
From 2006/07 till 2012/13 fergies last 7 years man utd won 5 out of 7 leagues losing the other 2 to chelsea by 1 point in 2010 and man city on goal difference 2012 after agueros goal in the last min. Won a champions league and 2 other champions league finals and also won 3 titles back to back to back. Explain to me how guardioalas more dominant that fergie. Fergie clear.
If Pep wins a title with city this season, he's won 4 titles in 6 years...SAF did that THREE TIMES 92-98: 4 titles, runners up twice 98-04: 4 titles, 3rd twice 05-11: 4 titles, runners up twice SAF also didn't finish outside the top 3 in the premier league era...Pep already did that in his first season. Also SAF has more European trophies than Pep...2 of those with ABERDEEN! It's not even close tbh
@@dominicfoster4453 never….the only why the prem teams are doing well in the UCL is cuz of Covid is killing the other European giant…but in early 2000s epl team dominate Europe…. SAF was fighting against a prime Wenger(with his invincible), a prime Jose(with a lot to spend), a Liverpool team that win UCL (2005)
Sean's waffling. The top 6 are taking more points off the rest of the league than they did in 08 so the league is getting easier for the bigger teams to win games
Love the videos ! Keep it up! I was thinking call The Series “Off The Fence”, next episode, Club Legends. Both former and active players from the big six. Would love to hear you guys discuss that kind of stuff. Maybe even do a “Champions League Legends”
He actually does come close. In fact you can say he has already done more than Fergie. He has won the UCL as many times as Fergie, which is 2. Fergie won the Prem 13 times and Pep has 9 league titles with the three teams he has coached. If you consider the fact that Pep started coaching in 2008 thats quite a lot of catching up versus the 26 years Fergie spent at Man U. Man even in overall trophies they are quite the same. Fergie won a total of 36 trophies and Pep has 31 already in half of the time coaching.
@@alexmarenco2399 but pep went to teams that were already in there prime like barca and bayern. and those teams are in much easier leagues in terms of opponents so it’s easier for pep to have caught up the trophies in the early days
ferguson had no one in the leauge competing and city have competition yet we bruck every team in the leauge and pep is far younger with 31 trophies pep>>>>.
@@mancityfan1224 who's really competing with city dumb dumb😂 klopps on a shoe string budget, ferguson had prime mourinho and wenger and still competed under the glazers
There’s something everyone’s forgetting about the SAF and Pep convo, SAF had the refs in his back pocket and if var had existed back then results would have been way different. And same could be said if Pep didn’t have VAR a lot of results would have went his way as well
Liverpool haven’t had a out and out striker for yrs now and were only team able to challenge city when realistically shouldn’t of been able to with the difference in squads
Rory hyped about Spurs beating 17th place Watford in the 96th minute and drawing with a 10 man Southampton. Other victories against 20th place Norwich and 10 man Crystal Palace, 16th place Leeds, 13th place Brentford. Drawing with 15th placed Everton and losing to Mura in that time. They’re lighting the world on fire!!!!!
Pep’s been managing top level since about 2008 and in that time has dominated every league he’s been in and won 2 champions leagues. That’s basically what Fergie did in 26 years at United. Once Pep has had 26 years in management, he’ll smash Fergie’s records. I love Fergie but Pep could go down as the GOAT
Guardiola reInvented football. Created many positions created many players. he even made every national team of the country he managed in elite. spain, germany and now England has an XI with 5 starters from city and they made clear progress.
Spain and Germany won the world cup when Guardiola was in these countries, also England reached a final. Many players were coached by Guardiola.. Guardiola is the greatest football mind to ever live.
I think you it would be really cool if you did a vid, where you name the best player of this season in the top 5 league's, but do it where you name the best under 24, under 30 and over 30. Finally you should just choose the best player from each league and then have a vote for the best across all leagues. (Even though you're probably just gonna pick salah or who ever wins the prem vote) btw I really enjoy the vids
Sharky’s very biased towards Arsenal. City didn’t win anything in Pep’s first season bc he took over someone else’s team with Zabeleta, Demichellis etc. 😂Not bc he needed Arteta. Remember Arteta’s first summer window too when he signed Willian, Mari etc.
@@hellohi1445 aye sometimes Rory just said things with so much confidence people just take it as the truth. Watched a vid last year where he said kane isn’t in the conversation for one of the best strikers in the league
Pep is the most influential person in football in the last 40 years imo. Just look at a full 90 minute football game before 2009 (Pep years) and after 2010. Literally looks like 2 different sports. Split CB and Footballing GK and wingers/Attacking Midfielders as Strikers was very rare. Now, it's pretty much played by every big team, even in lower leagues across Europe teams are doing this.
Sir Alex better manager. Pep is the best coach to ever live! I’ll take a great coach who can also manage decently rather than a great manager who’s a decent coach.
Ur on crack. As an arsenal fan, even though I hated Ferguson, he was without a doubt the greatest manager I’ve ever seen. Pep hasn’t won a UCL in 10 years😂 he’s an elite manager but he was at a world class Bayern team that won a treble the year before he went there and won 6/6 trophies 2 years ago😂 As eto’o said when he was asked who’s better, mourinho or pep. He said “ one of them won a ucl with porto and the other struggled with Bayern.” Even now for city, in big UCL games pep is making stupid decisions, like playing gundogan cdm against Chelsea in the finals😂
@@HM-ef1qj yeah but that Bayern team was competing against two GOAT sides of all time. A three peat Madrid and a GIGA Barca squad. Both teams were much better than that Bayern team
i hate how biased they are for anything Arsenal like come on Sambi and Taveres have been shit and he says Tomiyasu for signing of the season come on man
1. No. United are -only team to have won the league 3x in a row and to win the league and champions league in the same season. Guardiola however is the most dominant manager in football history in terms of points accumulated over a 10 year span and the amount of league titles he has won in 3 countries. 2. Sir Alex is the better manager because of the trophies he won and the longevity he had in the game. It is closer than Rory believes though. Guardiola has seen off mourinho, conte, sarri, klopp, van gaal (I feel like I'm missing someone out lol) during his tenure so far whereas fergie came up against managers like souness, Evans, wenger, david oleary, Graham, ranieri, houllier, benitez, Dalglish, sir Bobby etc. You could argue that the only manager to really get the better of him consistently in the league was mourinho in what, 25-26 years and that he overcame all challengers throughout that period however he wasn't up against the best managers in the world. Guardiola has been. For me guardiola will leave behind a greater legacy than sir Alex due to the style of play he has implemented at 3 (4 if you include the spain national side who greatly benefited from guardiola managing their key players - just lime England are atm btw) different teams and the way he has tactically revolutionised the modern game. Just like cruyff changed the way football was played and influenced several generations guardiola is having the same (probably more so) effect. 3. Is this even worth answering? Youre stretching with that question lads 🤣. No. Sorry. 4. No lol. Just like how valencia and sevilla couldn't win the league during barca n madrids cr7 and lm10 eras. Arsenal can't win the league during this era of guardiola n klopp domination. Man city have one of the best squads in Europe n Liverpool still have the best cb and possibly the best player on the planet in their teams. Arsenal aren't going to finish above both of those teams at any stage in the nest 3 years. Chelsea also have kante (best cm on the planet bar de bruyne) and outspend arsenal season in season out. United also have a few quid n are bound to get things right eventually. Players like Ben White and tavares are decent signings but they are not quite varane and sancho or lukaku etc. In order to close the gap to the big boys you have to sign the right players. Even though you have improved your squad and have some exciting young players you cannot compete for players like kane, mbappe haaland etc. N it's quite likely 2 of those players could well wind up playing for one of the current top four come next season.
I feel bad for arsenal fans, subconsciously they are always trying to belittle SAF and his achievements because they know nothing in their clubs history comes close or will come close to what he's done despite them being a huge club. he has constructed several teams (92-99, 06-09) better than peak arsenal of all time (98-04). sharky and other arsenal fans come across insecure and biased and often take the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' approach when discussing football especially on this pod in general.
You should discuss who are the best teams of all time. If they came up against each other now, who would win? Prime United, Invincibles, Man City now, sextuple Barca or MSN Barca, Galacticos, AC Milan back in the day and whoever else. I think that would be a sick video and debate.
I am impressed with Rory's Knowledge.Lots of people think Man Utd dominated a Weak Prem..yet they won the League 3 Yrs in a row from 07-09.against Wenger's Arsenal that reached the 06 UCL Final and had gone unbeaten 2 Yrs earlier, Liverpool won the UCL in 05 and reached the Final in 07, Chelsea Reached the UCL final in 08 and won in 2012, yet Utd won 3 Yrs in a erow in the EPLL and got to 3 UCL finals in 4 yrs between 08 and 11..
you're acting like Fergie didnt spend a BOAT LOAD of money either....The amount he spent signing some of his key players would be equal to astronomical figures in today's market....
Currently, Ferguson. Without a shadow of a doubt. Ferguson started managing top-flight football when he was 45. Pep started when he was 37. Already, that puts Ferguson behind by 8 years in terms of managerial status in top-flight football. Pep was already thrown into top-flight management as soon as he began, managing arguably one of Barcelona's greatest ever teams. The 2008 team, which consisted of players such as Eto'o, Messi, Henry, Xavi, Iniesta and so on. Arguably the best in each of their positions to ever touch the ball. Ferguson didn't have all this shit handed to him on a plate. He built the empire that he had. Everywhere Pep went, it was all already built for him just to take over. That 2008 Barcelona team, THAT Bayern team, THIS City team. The best versions of these teams that their history has ever seen. And he had it handed to him on a plate. Ferguson had highs and lows with his lineups. Guardiola never did. Because he always had those star-studded Starting 11's handed to him on a plate. ADDITIONALLY. Ferguson spent his entire top-flight managerial career in by far the most competitive league in the world. Pep started off in 2 leagues that were 2 horse races. Simple as. AND, despite ALL that, AND being 8 years behind Pep, Ferguson has STILL won 18 more trophies than him.
Barca were in terrible form when pep came in. City were questionable too. And the manager age doesn't make a manager 8 years behind lmaoooo. Alsooo if u want to compare years, how many total years are u counting for Ferguson compared to total years for pep? Then get back to me
@@justintime7351 someone's disregarded all points. Ps. DOesn't make you a City fan if you started supporting in 08, mate :) you got established in 08 while we were winning the CL in 08. Irrelevant.
@@ovenchipp3475 history only goes so far. If anything having the peak they do in such short notice is pretty major. Also, if they were mainly established in 08 then why cant u be a city fan from then? You have to start somewhere as a football fan. If u were mostly introduced to football later on then it makes more sense. Not like ur jumping teams etc
@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide I'm just being honest mate. Pep is a genius and an incredible manager hes done great things for our club but we have to be real with ourselves
I have to go with Man Utd dominance and Sir Alex over City and Pep…the longevity of that side along with the amount of trophies was crazy and as much as you’ve said it’s more competitive now than it was then I disagree, I’d agree the standard overall may be higher but at the time there were a lot of good players fighting for that league and Alex Ferguson and Man Utd were that good that they looked unbeatable most of the time.
Loved this lads, thanks for having me on.
You should be one of the main cast here bro
@@zainsarwat8125 I totally agree
Pep is clear no cap
69th like. Can I get your mrs number ?
Keep coming here you are amazing
Sharky actually said Pep learned from Arteta rather than Arteta from Pep.
For a second I thought Ty took a hold of Sharkys body
In fairness I'm fairly sure peps said it before that he learned alot from arteta. Especially about adapting the way he wanted to play to the prem
I agree. Arteta and Pep used to consult each other a lot. I rarely see Pep doing that these days
@@KAI-jl1ph I'm not sure, this new defensive structure and attacking rotation down the left side isn't something I've seen pep do before. But I don't know borrell or his teams well enough to know if that's where it stems from.
Arsenal fans were saying that arteta is shit and he ruined the club but after 4 wins against bottom teams they started dreaming and comparing him to big managers
@@joebastow8951 pep learnt from arteta😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rory should be made the permanent guest of this show. This lineup is by far the best.
Hes more on the kick off
Swap starplayer with either chunkz, niko or leban and we good
Hell Nah Liban needs to be here
@@Priddyboiicrls Smaller youtubers need to be here.
Rotation is good only sharky and Shaun should stay
rory should be on more often, he's chilled, unbiased and good ball knowledge
lol rory is not any of that
@@user-tq8fo9kl5p well he is chill and he knows what hes talkin about
@@shush9704 not when it comes to chelsea
@@shush9704 not when it comes to London clubs either.
he is chill but definitely not unbiased
You simply can’t hate Rory. He knows his football, he seems like a calm guy as well. One of the few Chelsea fans who are actually very calm. Rory has to be here more often
Facts.
Also the way he talks could make you interested in something you dont care about lol
I mean I’d be calm too they play 5 at the back all Chelsea fans should be calm and patient they play boring football but yeah Rory need to be on here more
Most people forget that Sir Alex’s greatest achievement is not even at Utd, its winning the European Winner’s Cup facing Real Madrid in the final then going on to win the European Super Cup. All this with Aberdeen fc. No other manager’s achievement comes close
Jose Porto was pretty decent too.
@@hellohi1445 Porto was good but his team actually had fairly good, known players. SAF managed to win it with players who weren’t even registered as professionals!
@@tauheed6550 I think Porto only had good players cause Jose gave them the spotlight in the ucl and they used that to progress, e.g luis Figo
But yeh SAF was unreal in that Aberdeen win, he was so dominant at united that people forgot he was at Aberdeen.
And? Why do people think that winning trophies with weak teams makes you the best manager? I know it's a big challenge and Pep might not do it with weak teams but with good teams he is unmatchable, that's surely as hard to do because others are nowhere near Pep.
@@tauheed6550 no one knew who deco and cravalho were until that season , that's what enabled them to go on to be household names
This podcast has its days where there are deluded Arsenal fans and then other days where its just world class discussions. Love the podcast keep it up guys
I didn’t enjoy today’s I feel like sharkz and stars r a bit to arsenal biased sometimes
@@ps4legend579 Oh no definitely as a neutral it’s definitely hard to listen to the podcast sometimes. I get it back ur team it adds to the culture but you should also be a little realistic aswell
@@commonraymond It wasn't even a bad take, with regards to how Arsenal progress in the next few years. It's just the issue that most people have superficial judgement, when it comes to football.
@@ps4legend579 bro I’m an Arsenal fan but sharky’s bias is very evident
@@prodbymbrewer8002 you still think so?
I really love Rory man he is just a chilled Chelsea fan even though I’m an arsenal fan u can’t hate him
How the fuck do u like him as an arsenal fan?
@@hellohi1445 If you know who Expressions Oozing is, then it doesn't matter if you are a Arsenal fan, because majority of you love that Tottenham supporter.
@@emilezola1458 I’m a Tottenham fan. Secondly, I wrote that comment because I don’t think the guy knows half the things Rory has said about arsenal lmao. “I’m an arsenal fan u can’t hate him” like what? He only likes arsenal when it comes to comparing them to rivals.
34:48 Sharky i’m an Arsenal fan too but my god that arteta pep question, you’ve lost it 😭
Arsenal fans are so delusional
I actually can’t believe my ears heard that.
“Arteta came in and city got 100 points” 😂😂😂 like whattttttttt
Sharky has some embarrassing takes sometimes
pep himself credits arteta but all people care about is "results" thats why they discredit arteta. you'll see soon
@@AnonymousYtPage it’s because pep has respect and worked with him. When arteta is decent but no way in the fuck did arteta teach shit to pep football related because pep is literally messi in managers whilst arteta is Memphis depay.
Got gassed when I saw Rory on the lineup, got great football knowledge and unbiased
Rory and unbiased should never be used in the same sentence
Lol
@@siphobanda1707 which one is rory?
@@Suren2122 the short lad who thinks pep reinvented ball 😂
@@Suren2122 the guy next to shaun with a white shirt
The thing about Man utds period of dominance is the years they didnt win it they were razor close... In 2012 they lost it on goal difference with one aguero kick in the last minute... Through the 90s they lost it by one point multiple times.... All the other times they won it... Fergie kept that team at 80/90% consistantly... But I would agree Pep has taken the team to 95%...but they have to keep it going... It always feels like a team wont be stopped... But things can change very quickly... Pep leaves and that can rock the boat...
thing is tho how dominant peps are : most goals in premier league calender year in history he broke the record 4 times and each year it was his own record
won by the most wins in a calender year aswell its crazy
@@777kdcyh7 but its still just 5 years....they are great individual seasons... But dominance is over time.
But could Fergie survive in the modern premier league era. The prem was far less competitive in his time. And his champions league record is very very poor.
@@weww982 Pep's not won a Champions League with City though. And that Prem era was competitive. Especially in the 00s.
@@weww982 easily. That was Fergies biggest strength was reinventing himself over time. He would have the best modern coaches for sure. This is recency bias that the prem was not as competive now. In the late 00s the UCL semis later stages were full of United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal on repeated seasons. The prem went through a lull between 2014-2018 then the last few years have been pretty much a 2 horse race between Liverpool and City. I'm not even sure the last years have been that competitive in the prem. Liv won it easily in 20 and City won it easily last year - as well with no away fans made it even easier for them.
You can say that some of the mid table teams have improved over the last 5 years perhaps. But Norwich, Newcastle etc of this season are no better than the relegation fodder of 10-15 years ago. Teams like Middlesborough and Fulham were going far in Europa league back then also.
no way this man just said pep learned from arteta instead of arteta learning from pep. Also the reason city didnt win a trophy his first season was because his fullbacks were the likes of sagna, clichy, kolarov and zabaleta (all over 30) and bravo (who couldnt make a save in the league) in that team. He bought ederson and walker and the team completely changed
they went from a shakey top 4 in their first season and then 100 points the next. also all the players got another season to adapt to Pep which was extremely important
pep said it himself
@@Ashley-iz9iy thanks to incredible recruitment and development of players like sterling and stones. I won't say that arteta did nothing (because thats not true) but you can't credit their amazing success because of arteta imo
Zabaleta and kolarov were more than good enough, zabaleta stayed in the Prem another good few seasons and know kolarov was part that class Roma team in cl and pissed the serie A last year at inter
@@MACfooty123 barely played in West Ham and kolorav went Roma. They weren’t there physically for high prese
It's been a year and Sharky's take on Arsenal and 'Arteta Ball' really wasnt just blinded optimism. Sharky knows ball.
This cast is actually legendary... shoutout sharky for making the best football podcast!
That Arteta teaching pep thing is the CRAZIEEEEEEST take I’ve ever seen on this podcast 😭😭😭
He needs a minimum 3 game matchweek ban as host icl. He's had a HOWLER
@@zealo6756 he just needs to bring pep in as a guest to call him out on his bullshit lmao. The guys already won the league already, according to sharky it’s thanks to arteta 😂😂
They used to consult each other but it was a wild take
havent watched the vid yet but the title is a howler
Wallahi
Alex Ferguson reinvented that squad probably 4 times. The early-mid 90’s team, the late 90’s treble team, the van nistelrooy era, the Ronaldo era, and then post Ronaldo era. How he even made a champions league final in 2011 is baffling - no one else would’ve got that team there
I'm not sure if the pep and alex debate was meant to mainly focused on the english side of it but I found it quite surprising that pep's barcelona didn't factor into the discussion. Most people regard that 09-12 team as one of the best sides we've seen, if not the best, for all they accomplished and the way they played.
All about the teams you inherit. Sir Alex built at least 3 teams that are considered among the best in English history. From nothing. Pep inherited the best team in the world at Barca and Bayern, and walked into City who had the most expensive squad in the world at the time. Sir Alex took over a team of alcoholics in 86.
He signed a total of zero of the players. He did fuck all for them. Have you ever seen Messi give pep credit for anything?? Me either
@@RoYaLLeGiiTHD Man signed Alves, pique, villa, mascherano, Alexis Sanchez, Fabregas and zlatan. He also sold dinho and deco when he first came. Yes he did inherit a few really good players but he also brought a few good players in. He could of failed with that team but instead he made them the best team in the world and possibly the best side ever to play the game.
@@ryanclark541 he didn’t inherit much or anything lol that Barça side was extremely poor under Riijkaard. Dinho wasn’t even showing up to training and their team was shambolic. Finished 3rd in la liga and got knocked out in the champions league. Pep came in and revolutionized the club. He sold Ronaldinho who at the time was the best player in the world. He used Busquets and Pedro and brought them from la masia. Changed Xavi and Iniesta’s role and made them one of the best if not the best midfield trio.
@@yesnyamusa5543only players he signed were Pique and Dani Alves. Other than that, he had 9 of the greatest team ever assembled. He inherited it
Petition to get Sharky on *The Kick Off*
Arsenal fan needed
No
Fr we need sharky to represent arsenal on the kick off for arsenal games
@@aydee1135 he needs to humble adam
@@AnonymousYtPage I don't see people taking a guy seriously who says Arteta influenced Guardiola
Not once did you all mention Pep's Barcelona team that is most definitely the greatest team ever put together
Pep didn't make that team tho it was already there
@@micahmurray3402 Im really sorry you were dropped on your head as a kid
@@micahmurray3402 you are really funny
@@micahmurray3402 pep made that team a winning team
@@kia2065 were they not winning with Eto, Ronaldinho and Deco? 2006 UCL, La liga
Loving the pod more with each episode you post sharks!! Love rory as a guest btw and would love to see him on more. I think maybe you could get subsitutes sitting behind the camera for when shaun has an illnes again and just needs a rest, all love from the Netherlands!!!!
love the pod! maybe you should try making a list of your favourite player wearing each jersey number, so favourite number 1, 2, 3,...etc until 10 or 15 or however much you want. would be a good series to start.
Pep a better coach than SAF is criminal
Pep came 1st season won nothing. Arteta came and boom 100 point season 😭😭 rory's reaction sums it up
Shaun is so much more tolerable when Rory is on the show. Make Rory a regular!
its mad how sharky really predicted last season arsenal title contender chelsea relegation team damn
Shaun rlly thinks Sir Alex wouldn’t of brought in the city players they have now, yet he brought arguably the best player in the game to the club and numerous other talents, and nowadays scouting is soo much easier
People are forgetting Fergie doing things like finding the time to go scout players like Varane personally. Fergie scouted untold numbers of players ranging from good-world class.
Fergie made Ronaldo into the goat he is today and that never comes close to any city player pep Brang in
Shaun means the type of players that fergie would buy to fit his playing style wouldn’t be the same as the players guardiola would sign to fit his.
@@abdikhaliqjama7194 pep made messi bro😂
@@muctarjb5898 think ferguson would have signed someone like Grealish, he wanted gundogan when he was at Dortmund, mahrez is probably another player he would go for
Arsenal fans need to realise that as good as your young players are, it’s not gnna be a constant trajectory upwards. Just bc one of them scores 15 goals in a season at 19, doesn’t mean when he’s 23 he’ll score 40 goals 😂It doesn’t work like that
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I don’t know how the man who inherited all his success can be compared to Sir Alex
Idk how someone who won titles in an era were defenders had vegetables for brains can be compare to Pep
Inherited? The city team he took over was not great at all
Acting like both Pep and Fergie didn’t inherit one of the best classes of youth teams of all time. Both spent bare money too, specifically United in the early days
@@jakenener1432 but alex rebuit man u e times won a treble
@@JO-qv3sq cap man City had already have one the league before pepe one
4:25 pep redefined football, not city. He did it at Barca, he would play Wingers, CAMs at CF.. Messi was a winger, flipped him to a CF.. thing is peps preferred style would be a team full of centre mids and 3 defenders.. hold the ball pass it into the net.. it’s total football, to me it’s just beautiful..
Pep picked up a City team who were winning the league every 2-3 years and just made them more dominant. SAF picked up a United team who were fighting relegation and made them into the most dominate side in English football history.
Because United had a huge cash injection in the early 90’s which is when the suddenly started to become successful
@@StephenCarrIsBald umm what?? You can verify this btw City, Newcastle, Liverpool all spent more than United in the 90s. Plus SAF isn't even top 10 in terms of highest net spends throughout the 2000s but was the most successful. After glazers came in there were 5 prem teams who outspent united but they won the 3peat and ucl.
@@swayam7914 course he ain’t top 10 of net spend when the money in football has been inflated by like 10000% 😂😂😂
@@StephenCarrIsBald I'm talking about 2000s net spends comparison not with current money.
You watched Gary Neville play ball compared to walker and cancelo and think fergie can win a cl with city lol. He wouldn’t even know how to use cancelo. He doesn’t even buy cancelo and then use him as a left back that plays centrally. Just respect the changes pep has made
What a dumb comment. He's changed nothing, he's won nothing without Messi. Fergie won more meaningful titles at Aberdeen than pep has in his career
Cancelo ? You must have started watching football in 2019 lol
Nobody will ever be better than sir Alex Ferguson at managing a futbol team EVER!!
Facts but papa wengz is second
I disagree with that statement highly
@@juniormuluh9453 American
i agree.
but pep is better at coaching
pep mate>>>
Listening to this in October 2022 and Sharky's takes are spot on
Tuchel sacked by Chelsea ✔️
Arsenal challenging to win the PL ✔️
Saka and Martinelli killing it ✔️
Pep is a manager to build an amazing group of players and dominate. AF as able to take a lesser group and give an air of invincibility whilst maintaining a high level, City are just at a higher level but only in shorter bursts
When talking about Pep u have to talk about Barca and Bayern along with City. SAF had a good record with making lesser teams better
I think style is a big factor the fact he’s dominating in style is insane in a league not known for fancy football
Pep is the best coach ever, he completed football at Barcelona multiple times. He’s the statistically most successful coach in German history. All while bringing new and innovative ideas to the Bundesliga. Lots of young German managers cite Pep as their inspiration(Guys like Tuchel and Nagalsmann). And when he came to England, everyone thought he would fall on his face. 6 years later people are counting down the days he leaves because he’s taking the piss out of the Prem.
Not really sure what Rory’s point about City redefining football was. The two most dominant teams of our lifetimes played without strikers. Barcelona played Messi false 9 and Spain had essentially 6 midfielders in front of a back 4
That spain team was very much a reflection Pep's barca, with the entire midfield being composed of Barcelona players. Spain played that way because Barca played that way, and that all leads back to Pep
exactly
i remember when fckin fabregas used to play up front for barca
its nothing new
@@javiermendez9880 that actually leads back to cruyff 😂😂 not pep
@@madaxwayne who used to manage that barca team?
@@xxploded fabregas played up front after pep left the same year they lost 7 nil to Bayern...pep was on a sabbatical
Sir Alex shouldn’t be in a debate compared to anyone. The world knows he’s the best ever
I agree he’s the best ever but by the time pep retires he will definitely be the goat
@@billycoles2467 nah bro peps gon leave City the end of the season so it’s abit tricky.
Laughable, Guardiola is already the greatest football mind to ever live.
Guardiola is already the best ever you english people put too much weight on the prem title its hard to win in la liga too
@@tomaspalma2501 yea Fergie won against Real Madrid with Aberdeen….waiting on Pep to win a trophy as an underdog.
From 2006/07 till 2012/13 fergies last 7 years man utd won 5 out of 7 leagues losing the other 2 to chelsea by 1 point in 2010 and man city on goal difference 2012 after agueros goal in the last min. Won a champions league and 2 other champions league finals and also won 3 titles back to back to back. Explain to me how guardioalas more dominant that fergie. Fergie clear.
Pep won the treble before man city, wtf could arteta possibly teach him 😂
The Rory x Sharky link up is giving the people what they want! My G’s 💥🙌
If Pep wins a title with city this season, he's won 4 titles in 6 years...SAF did that THREE TIMES
92-98: 4 titles, runners up twice
98-04: 4 titles, 3rd twice
05-11: 4 titles, runners up twice
SAF also didn't finish outside the top 3 in the premier league era...Pep already did that in his first season. Also SAF has more European trophies than Pep...2 of those with ABERDEEN!
It's not even close tbh
mate the prem is more competitive now than back then
@@dominicfoster4453 prove that with actual metrics
@@dominicfoster4453 never….the only why the prem teams are doing well in the UCL is cuz of Covid is killing the other European giant…but in early 2000s epl team dominate Europe…. SAF was fighting against a prime Wenger(with his invincible), a prime Jose(with a lot to spend), a Liverpool team that win UCL (2005)
Pep has never finished outside the top3
Insta click when rorys on, he needs to be a regular!
Smaller youtubers need to be a regular.
5:45 mad to think this could actually happen this year and all of them laughed it off last year
Sean's waffling. The top 6 are taking more points off the rest of the league than they did in 08 so the league is getting easier for the bigger teams to win games
RORY made the show . Such a chilled guy man . Love to see him here more
wow i actually thought sharky knew ball. he is more delusional than shaun on my mothers life
as a united fan much respect to pep because hes not just a good coach but a funny dude
but sir alex ferguson is the goat
What a lineup. Rory’s a great guest
As a gunners fan, watching this in todays time has me proud as ever. Top of the league 😤
Although i love pep guardiola no one beats the absolute goat of Sir Alex Ferguson the greatest manager in football history
So happy to see you’re gradually growing sharky! Keep ‘em coming ❤️
Rory knows ball 100%
Love the videos ! Keep it up! I was thinking call The Series “Off The Fence”, next episode, Club Legends. Both former and active players from the big six. Would love to hear you guys discuss that kind of stuff. Maybe even do a “Champions League Legends”
Guardiola is sick but he doesn’t come close to SAF idk why we keep on hearing this debate
He actually does come close. In fact you can say he has already done more than Fergie. He has won the UCL as many times as Fergie, which is 2. Fergie won the Prem 13 times and Pep has 9 league titles with the three teams he has coached. If you consider the fact that Pep started coaching in 2008 thats quite a lot of catching up versus the 26 years Fergie spent at Man U. Man even in overall trophies they are quite the same. Fergie won a total of 36 trophies and Pep has 31 already in half of the time coaching.
@@alexmarenco2399 but pep went to teams that were already in there prime like barca and bayern. and those teams are in much easier leagues in terms of opponents so it’s easier for pep to have caught up the trophies in the early days
@@imjust2musty-_-38 dont bother , you can't argue with stupid
@@siphobanda1707 musty is stupid I agree.
@@alexmarenco2399 not close.. Guardiola is clear of Alex Ferguson..
Rory at the start of the video "I'm never on the fence".
Rory after literally the first question - is on the fence :')
Give Pep the glazers for 8 years and see if he can do 3peats and Prem/European doubles
ferguson had no one in the leauge competing and city have competition yet we bruck every team in the leauge and pep is far younger with 31 trophies pep>>>>.
@@mancityfan1224 so prime mourinho and wenger weren’t in the league please educate yourself before you speak
@@mancityfan1224 who's really competing with city dumb dumb😂 klopps on a shoe string budget, ferguson had prime mourinho and wenger and still competed under the glazers
@@siphobanda1707 udk football kid..
@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide because I think you're chatting shit ??? You're iq is 2 digits 😂
There’s something everyone’s forgetting about the SAF and Pep convo, SAF had the refs in his back pocket and if var had existed back then results would have been way different. And same could be said if Pep didn’t have VAR a lot of results would have went his way as well
Rory's cut is fire
Liverpool haven’t had a out and out striker for yrs now and were only team able to challenge city when realistically shouldn’t of been able to with the difference in squads
Titles a howler, peps not even ahead of klopp
Rory hyped about Spurs beating 17th place Watford in the 96th minute and drawing with a 10 man Southampton. Other victories against 20th place Norwich and 10 man Crystal Palace, 16th place Leeds, 13th place Brentford. Drawing with 15th placed Everton and losing to Mura in that time. They’re lighting the world on fire!!!!!
Rory does not like spurs at all if u were wondering. That’s his most hated team 100%
Isn't that what you guys did crystal palace should have beaten you, Brighton and man city lost to man city but kept on going about performance lol
Shaky is way too deluded. Bro overrates Arsenal waaaay too much. Love the podcast btw.
Pep’s been managing top level since about 2008 and in that time has dominated every league he’s been in and won 2 champions leagues. That’s basically what Fergie did in 26 years at United. Once Pep has had 26 years in management, he’ll smash Fergie’s records. I love Fergie but Pep could go down as the GOAT
Guardiola reInvented football. Created many positions created many players. he even made every national team of the country he managed in elite. spain, germany and now England has an XI with 5 starters from city and they made clear progress.
so coach.
What a load of kak
Nonsense all he did was steal Total Football from the dutch and Johann cruyff
Spain and Germany won the world cup when Guardiola was in these countries, also England reached a final. Many players were coached by Guardiola.. Guardiola is the greatest football mind to ever live.
@@Priddyboiicrls stop reading from the internet kid..
I think you it would be really cool if you did a vid, where you name the best player of this season in the top 5 league's, but do it where you name the best under 24, under 30 and over 30. Finally you should just choose the best player from each league and then have a vote for the best across all leagues. (Even though you're probably just gonna pick salah or who ever wins the prem vote) btw I really enjoy the vids
Sharky’s very biased towards Arsenal. City didn’t win anything in Pep’s first season bc he took over someone else’s team with Zabeleta, Demichellis etc. 😂Not bc he needed Arteta. Remember Arteta’s first summer window too when he signed Willian, Mari etc.
@38:38 sharky perdicted the chelsea situation 🤣
Spain won plenty without a number 9 so behave yourself. Just because Rory says things with confidence, doesn’t mean he’s right.
Because 80 procent of spain was pep’s Barcelona players you muppet
@@jidjid6614 he just said this Man City side are the only ones who have success with it?
@@aMentalPie did he? That’s stinky from him lmao.
@@hellohi1445 aye sometimes Rory just said things with so much confidence people just take it as the truth. Watched a vid last year where he said kane isn’t in the conversation for one of the best strikers in the league
@@aMentalPie are u referring to that 888sport video or something? If not, in that video, I remember he compared Kane to Tammy Abraham bro😂😂😂
They did compete, and they bottled it 😭 and now pep has a treble crazyyyy
When pep retires people will finally call him the goat manager, can't wait.
Pep is the most influential person in football in the last 40 years imo. Just look at a full 90 minute football game before 2009 (Pep years) and after 2010. Literally looks like 2 different sports. Split CB and Footballing GK and wingers/Attacking Midfielders as Strikers was very rare. Now, it's pretty much played by every big team, even in lower leagues across Europe teams are doing this.
Lol pep js literally Johaan Cruyffs son and Neuer popularized the sweeper cruyff thats good with his feet
Right because neuer wouldn’t have been great without pep🤦🏽♂️
If being a checkbook manager is being influential…
Sir Alex better manager. Pep is the best coach to ever live! I’ll take a great coach who can also manage decently rather than a great manager who’s a decent coach.
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Did u just call Sir Alex a decent coach
Ur on crack. As an arsenal fan, even though I hated Ferguson, he was without a doubt the greatest manager I’ve ever seen. Pep hasn’t won a UCL in 10 years😂 he’s an elite manager but he was at a world class Bayern team that won a treble the year before he went there and won 6/6 trophies 2 years ago😂 As eto’o said when he was asked who’s better, mourinho or pep. He said “ one of them won a ucl with porto and the other struggled with Bayern.” Even now for city, in big UCL games pep is making stupid decisions, like playing gundogan cdm against Chelsea in the finals😂
@@HM-ef1qj yeah but that Bayern team was competing against two GOAT sides of all time. A three peat Madrid and a GIGA Barca squad. Both teams were much better than that Bayern team
Sir Alex decent coach?
United 06/07-12/13 were an offside goal by drogba and goal difference away from winning seven in a row. That’s dominance
that united team couldn't lace the boots of this city team
@@wwfcbeatles123456789 United teams have been more dominant
You should do top 10 sides in the PL history and top 10 sides ever all league's.
Rory is right.. City has made us question the position of a striker.
Also love how he is unbiased
I don’t think any position is “required” ( minus the keeper )
i hate how biased they are for anything Arsenal like come on Sambi and Taveres have been shit and he says Tomiyasu for signing of the season come on man
To be fair Sambi hasn’t been terrible, we knew Tavares could be suspect when we signed him. Everyone else has been great
Awesome line up! Sharky, player and sugar Shaun are must haves with 1 guest
Now Arsenal WILL NOT finish in the Top 4. Thank you Starz
Arsenal doesn't belong to top 4 your team only performs against bottom teams you couldn't even beat a shit Man United
I can’t be the only one that would love to see a football manager with these lot, would be class. keep up the good work ❤️
No way he is better Alex firguson is the goat manager
1. No. United are -only team to have won the league 3x in a row and to win the league and champions league in the same season. Guardiola however is the most dominant manager in football history in terms of points accumulated over a 10 year span and the amount of league titles he has won in 3 countries.
2. Sir Alex is the better manager because of the trophies he won and the longevity he had in the game. It is closer than Rory believes though. Guardiola has seen off mourinho, conte, sarri, klopp, van gaal (I feel like I'm missing someone out lol) during his tenure so far whereas fergie came up against managers like souness, Evans, wenger, david oleary, Graham, ranieri, houllier, benitez, Dalglish, sir Bobby etc. You could argue that the only manager to really get the better of him consistently in the league was mourinho in what, 25-26 years and that he overcame all challengers throughout that period however he wasn't up against the best managers in the world. Guardiola has been. For me guardiola will leave behind a greater legacy than sir Alex due to the style of play he has implemented at 3 (4 if you include the spain national side who greatly benefited from guardiola managing their key players - just lime England are atm btw) different teams and the way he has tactically revolutionised the modern game. Just like cruyff changed the way football was played and influenced several generations guardiola is having the same (probably more so) effect.
3. Is this even worth answering? Youre stretching with that question lads 🤣. No. Sorry.
4. No lol. Just like how valencia and sevilla couldn't win the league during barca n madrids cr7 and lm10 eras. Arsenal can't win the league during this era of guardiola n klopp domination. Man city have one of the best squads in Europe n Liverpool still have the best cb and possibly the best player on the planet in their teams. Arsenal aren't going to finish above both of those teams at any stage in the nest 3 years. Chelsea also have kante (best cm on the planet bar de bruyne) and outspend arsenal season in season out. United also have a few quid n are bound to get things right eventually.
Players like Ben White and tavares are decent signings but they are not quite varane and sancho or lukaku etc. In order to close the gap to the big boys you have to sign the right players. Even though you have improved your squad and have some exciting young players you cannot compete for players like kane, mbappe haaland etc. N it's quite likely 2 of those players could well wind up playing for one of the current top four come next season.
Imagine needing to change the question/narrative in your favour and still people won’t agree. SAF is the 🐐 unfortunately
I feel bad for arsenal fans, subconsciously they are always trying to belittle SAF and his achievements because they know nothing in their clubs history comes close or will come close to what he's done despite them being a huge club. he has constructed several teams (92-99, 06-09) better than peak arsenal of all time (98-04). sharky and other arsenal fans come across insecure and biased and often take the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' approach when discussing football especially on this pod in general.
6:03 Starz' comment on arsenal taking over city has aged like fine wine 20/20 vision
Arsenal winning the league in the next 3 years, sharky has lost it💀
You should discuss who are the best teams of all time.
If they came up against each other now, who would win?
Prime United, Invincibles, Man City now, sextuple Barca or MSN Barca, Galacticos, AC Milan back in the day and whoever else.
I think that would be a sick video and debate.
Title = “Doesn’t know ball”
I am impressed with Rory's Knowledge.Lots of people think Man Utd dominated a Weak Prem..yet they won the League 3 Yrs in a row from 07-09.against Wenger's Arsenal that reached the 06 UCL Final and had gone unbeaten 2 Yrs earlier, Liverpool won the UCL in 05 and reached the Final in 07, Chelsea Reached the UCL final in 08 and won in 2012, yet Utd won 3 Yrs in a erow in the EPLL and got to 3 UCL finals in 4 yrs between 08 and 11..
so we are just going to ignore the amount of money that pep has spend. behave sharky and shaun, just fucking behave
you're acting like Fergie didnt spend a BOAT LOAD of money either....The amount he spent signing some of his key players would be equal to astronomical figures in today's market....
People forget who city went up against monaco with the lights of mbappe, fabinho, bernardo silva, falcao. They were a great team.
Yea, if you assemble them now….they were not the same then
@@shekudeen-tarawalie6106 what 💀 that team won the Ligue 1 over PSG when PSG were winning every trophy in France every year
@@johng2041 Lille must win the UCL then cuz the win the Ligue 1 against a more stronger psg team
Pep is a better tactician than SAF, but not a better manager.
Naaa sharky had me dry when he said "Give me my flowers man" the banter on this pod is top tier loool
Currently, Ferguson. Without a shadow of a doubt. Ferguson started managing top-flight football when he was 45. Pep started when he was 37. Already, that puts Ferguson behind by 8 years in terms of managerial status in top-flight football. Pep was already thrown into top-flight management as soon as he began, managing arguably one of Barcelona's greatest ever teams. The 2008 team, which consisted of players such as Eto'o, Messi, Henry, Xavi, Iniesta and so on. Arguably the best in each of their positions to ever touch the ball. Ferguson didn't have all this shit handed to him on a plate. He built the empire that he had. Everywhere Pep went, it was all already built for him just to take over. That 2008 Barcelona team, THAT Bayern team, THIS City team. The best versions of these teams that their history has ever seen. And he had it handed to him on a plate. Ferguson had highs and lows with his lineups. Guardiola never did. Because he always had those star-studded Starting 11's handed to him on a plate. ADDITIONALLY. Ferguson spent his entire top-flight managerial career in by far the most competitive league in the world. Pep started off in 2 leagues that were 2 horse races. Simple as. AND, despite ALL that, AND being 8 years behind Pep, Ferguson has STILL won 18 more trophies than him.
Barca were in terrible form when pep came in. City were questionable too. And the manager age doesn't make a manager 8 years behind lmaoooo. Alsooo if u want to compare years, how many total years are u counting for Ferguson compared to total years for pep? Then get back to me
@@justintime7351 someone's disregarded all points. Ps. DOesn't make you a City fan if you started supporting in 08, mate :) you got established in 08 while we were winning the CL in 08. Irrelevant.
@@ovenchipp3475 history only goes so far. If anything having the peak they do in such short notice is pretty major. Also, if they were mainly established in 08 then why cant u be a city fan from then? You have to start somewhere as a football fan. If u were mostly introduced to football later on then it makes more sense. Not like ur jumping teams etc
Discussion about Vlahovic.
Sharky: He is younger than Nketiah
Star: And Shaun!
Nah I'm done man! Starz is the Goat! xD
I'm a city fan but no
You’re a bozo then
@@bigstonez lol
@@nkumbuchiti935 stfu u ain't a city fan.. every city fan knows Guardiola is the greatest football mind to ever live
@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide I'm just being honest mate. Pep is a genius and an incredible manager hes done great things for our club but we have to be real with ourselves
@@nkumbuchiti935 👏👏👏
I see Rory on the thumbnail, I instantly click to watch and like the video!!!
Shaun knows ball 💪
thanks for the 10 quid shaun!
Sharky is the type of guy to say “jwp has the best strike ever” just to be different
I have to go with Man Utd dominance and Sir Alex over City and Pep…the longevity of that side along with the amount of trophies was crazy and as much as you’ve said it’s more competitive now than it was then I disagree, I’d agree the standard overall may be higher but at the time there were a lot of good players fighting for that league and Alex Ferguson and Man Utd were that good that they looked unbeatable most of the time.
Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardiola. In that order
How does a normal person rate jose over guardiola?is it bcoz of porto?