Odegaard has the same g/a, he has been miles better defensively, he's been the captain so gains a tonne there and he also doesn't have the best striker in the league in front of him. If you actually watch football this season, there's only one answer.
Agrred, and when you deep it, Partey wasn't considered to be amongst the top 3 dm's ,last season, but now he's all of a sudden better than Casemiro ? Good form in the prem produced the most horrid football debates
@@123kaired so ur telling me Casemiro wasn’t extremely influential in that Real Madrid side? Don’t me the usual casual bollocks of he got carried by his team. Real Madrid ain’t winning 5 champions leagues with partey in that midfield
@@123kaired because being top of the league for 6 months competes with winning 5 champions leagues😂😂 so no not the same thing at all. Casemiro is better even taking away club achievements anyway. Straight fact.
Odegaard over De Bruyne (even this season) is a WILD take. People like to talk about haaland effect but no one else at City has put up impressive creative numbers. If he keeps up this rate, he’ll end up with 20 assists which is the prem record. His gameplay has taken a slight step down from his astronomical form at the beginning of the year. But come on guys
ye I dont see that, Liban's got that spot on. Sure Odegard has been insane this season but if someone has it "easier" out of the 2 it's him. He has a full 11 performing around him
Odegaard has the same g/a, he has been miles better defensively, he's been the captain so gains a tonne there and he also doesn't have the best striker in the league in front of him. If you actually watch football this season, there's only one answer.
@Samir Nasri odegaard having his best year and de Bruyne been off since the World Cup. But let’s talk facts. (I won’t include Carabao and FA cup since Odegaard hasn’t played, only including Europa and Ucl even tho it’s dumb cuz Ucl way more difficult) KDB has 16 G+A in 22 games in prem + Ucl, Odegaard has 13 g+a in 23 prem + Europa games
absolutely no one was saying this before the World Cup. KDB hasn’t had a great January but he and Haaland were the outstanding players in the league before the WC. Let’s not be myopic here please
i agree with what liban was saying the whole ep. There is a difference between asking : which midfielder has had the best season so far? or which midfielder is the best in the premier league right now? the first one I’d answer with odegaard but the second one is still de bruyne.
LIban's spot on with the 'who's the best' argument cause so often people are arguing different things, form or overall, you get two completely different answers
To say liverpool would be better without klopp is disgusting. He’s one of the best tactical managers ever and right now his squad is thin. He’s had to rely on kids and Ox left wing. Fabinho has lost it and he needs midfielders that can run and press. He needs his wingers to be pressing machines. He needs liverpool to spend big money to change that midfield
Zidane was playing for Cannes when he was 19 and Modric was on loan at Zrinjski Mostar when he was 19. Pedri has a clearer path to table 1 (not saying that means he'll get there)
Just because pedri is cold at this age doesnt mean he's gonna reach table 1 fabregas was better than pedri at the same age and no one really considers him table 1
@@guleedabdule I agree, my point was just that he has a head start regarding the boys argument that you have to be lucky with the team/players you're surrounded by that's all
That’s a silly way to look at things. Alli had the world at his feet at 21. Mahrez was playing in the french Second division. 10 years from now who’s gonna be remembered more? As i said silly way to look at things
@@kabirkhan3524 oh I don't disagree. I wouldn't predict a single player currently to reach the levels of the 'table 1' I was just countering the discussion that they put forward on relying on luck of the era/players around them that pedri has a little bit of a head start thats all
What? Partey is literally the most important player in the best team in the league. Partey since he started playing at 6 has been doing things for arsenal that no other player could
Mate your talking shit you have lost games with casemiro this season…he works for you guys cus ur midfield is terrible. Partey literally the most important player at Arsenal as you saw we lost when he didnt play. The win percentage of Arsenal winning with Partey is 80%. Furthermore Arsenal top of the league…because of the solidarity Partey provide.
Different players - defensively Casemiro is better, on the ball Partey is better. Both are top DMs. Casemiro ofc all timer and Partey is not but we’re comparing them now and in the systems they play
partey is more important for ares la than casemiro is for united. It doesn’t matter partey can’t play exactly like casemiro because if they switch they both fail
This is why I don’t want arsenal to win the league . Their fans start forcing the most random debates ever 😭😭Casemiro is clear it’s not even a question
@@ewitdakey8683 he was shocking when he first started and there’s no way you think casemiro is better going forward and dictating play. for the entirety of his career at madrid they made sure he was never involved in build up play due to his limited skill on the ball
@@marcelohendrix6139 I’m talking about this season Madrid he had kroos and modrich it’s different and casemiro has been putting in consistent man of the match performances since he started stop making shit up
Faysal was right about pedri if he was English he would be put above any other midfielder, pedri has definitely has the potential to be in that table 1 section
Nah sharks wilding wallah, even as a heavy Barca fan like die hard wallah, saying Modric and Gerad is the same caliber is crazyyyy, Modric clear, the things he is doing at that age is up there with the bests, I only got Iniesta and zizou over him
Stay mute mate , kdb was average at 23 man wasn’t even starter at a big club at age 23 jeez odeegard was already star at Age 16 what you won about even coquellin would have won 5 ucl titles with kroos and modric with him in midfield casemiro is great but not head and shoulders above partey I bet to disagree if he dominated partey statistically when they both played in la liga
@@msmwn1586 that's what's ruining football. Recency bias. It destroys players. What happens if partey drops off no one is ever gonna say oh yea that one year he was better than casemiro.
Day 3: For a more entertaining goat bracket and a bracket that does not really feature world class players, I think you should do a streets won’t forget bracket. How bout do 32 bracket cause there is a bunch of players you can pick from: Brackets indicate their prime clubs, prime season 1 Taarabt (QPR, 10/11 or 12/13) 2 Ben Arfa (Newcastle and Nice, 11/12 or 15/16) 3 Payet (West Ham and Marseille, 15/16) 4 Gourcuff (Bordeaux, 08/09) 5 Michu (Swansea, 12/13) 6 Jay Jay Okocha (PSG and Bolton, 2000-2006) 7 Ba and Cisse (They have to be a duo, 11/12) 8 Santa Cruz (Blackburn, 07/08) 9 Antonio Cassano (Roma Sampdoria AC Milan, 2001-2010) 10 Rafael Van Der Vaart (Ajax spurs Hamburg, 2000s-2012) 11 Ramires (Chelsea, 2012-2015) 12 Nani (Manchester United, 10/11) 13 Juninho (Middlesbrough, 1997-2002) 14 Juninho (Lyon, 2004-2008) 15 Arshavin (Zenit and Arsenal, 2008-2011) 16 Adriano (Inter Milan, 2003-2006) 17 Robinho (City and Real Madrid and AC Milan, 2000s-2011) 18 Dele Alli (Tottenham 2015-2019) 19 Quaresma (Porto and Besiktas, 2004-2008 or 2014-2019) 20 Balotelli (Manchester City and AC Milan, 2010-2018) 21 Pablo Aimar (Valencia and Benfica and he was Messi’s idol, 2001-2006 or 2008-2012) 22 Berbatov (Manchester United and Tottenham 2004-2012) 23 Nasri (Arsenal and City, 2007-2016) 24 Mancini (Brazilian guy from Roma, 2003-2008) 25 Guti (Real Madrid, 2000s) 26 Moussa Dembele (Tottenham, whole Tottenham career) 27 Recoba (Inter Milan, 1999-2004) 28 Riquelme (Boca Juniors and Villarreal, 1998-2006) 29 Sinisa Mihajlovic (Lazio and inter Milan, 1991-2006) 30 Hulk (Porto and Zenit, 2010-2016) 31 Alex (Fenerbahce, 2004-2012) 32 Sturridge (Liverpool, 2013/14)
When Sharky makes sure we remember some of the good takes he’s had so much😂like bro we get it people are gonna be right at times but we ain’t forgetting your horror takes either
Modric 100% table one! Modric didn’t come to madrid while they were a wining side! He came in a difficult patch and since coming on against United in the Ucl he transformed this team to a winning team! Modric is a ballon dor winner in Messi and Ronaldo’s era! Modric appears when it matters and made history for his national team! Modric is a legend of the game and definitely top 4 in the world! Gerard and Lampard are no where close to that table! They can only get close to them if they were serving!
This Partey Casemiro debate sums up how much people know football. Top players like Messi &Ronaldo have been doing it for 10 years + a player has a good season and they want to get compared. Please STOP. Partey is having a amazing season. Let him do it for 5 more seasons and we can talk. Don’t ever bring in the greats of this game to someone who’s having a good 15 months.
Seriously lmao. These guys would be calling Alexis better than CR7 or something crazy like that in 2017. Can't make statements like that based on half a season.
Pedri will be a table one midfielder, once the young players like gavi, balde, araujo, fati, frenkie, etc. in that Barca team develop a bit more it could be a very good team that can win multiple trophies
About casemiro having great players around him, he moved to a struggling Utd with fred and scott who are a liability in the pl around him (although fred has improved because of casemiro performance) and eriksen with him who's made of glass he still carries the team.
@@amolmehrotra1296 5 goals in 14 games for a striker… for 85m it’s very meh, especially given that he absolutely fails the eye test and Liverpool are having a bad season. 5 in 14 is fine but he’s part of the reason Liverpool isn’t doing well this season
@@HahaHaha-fu6vk he has a goal or assist every 2 games lol for a young striker that's pretty good for his first season in a new league. Don't know why people are hating. Also it wasn't 85 mill pounds, it was 64 mill pounds check your facts before commenting.
This partey and casemiro debate is just mental. Casemiro is so clear it ain’t even a question. If arsenal fans actually watched casemiro every week for united they would say the same. Guy is an unbelievable player
There is no way people think Partey is even close to casemiro, i would take casemiro with a blindfold over partey any day of the week. The disrespect and delusion is insane.
I swear Faysal is always right. 1st with Modric, and this is coming from a barca fan, Modric is even levels ahead of Gerrard, he is also imo, a barca fan, better than Xavi. Table one is currently consisting of Xavi, Modric, Iniesta and Zidan, and in that order btw. 2nd is the Pedri argument, he is in a struggling Barca team in comparision and is by far the best Midfielder in the world atm. And that is not a crazy thing to say because the only 2 Midfielders that are able to dictate a whole game are Modric and Pedri.
Im a Madrid fan and I completely agree.. I don’t get how these man are comparing the likes of xavi modric iniesta etc to the likes of gerrard. I get the thing with timing and era but not to extend that they’re better or on the same level.
Liban is very good at avoiding recency bias, so much to the point he struggles to consider a players current form and their future potential. Balance is needed with these arguments and liban lacks it
On terms of defensive midfielders in the Premier League: Kanté, Fernandinho and Makelélé would be my top 3 of all time. Fabinho, Rodri, etc... are definitely part of the conversations.
I think odegard just slightly over kdb this year, Liban literally talking about comparing partey in Man U club and then he saying you can’t compare odegard in city’s if odegard was in city’s team this year based on this season he probably wouldn’t have 8 goals but he would have more assists. Based on this year odegard is just slightly better
Not everything is about fortune. When player does his job well constantly, keeps his own level apart of team's success, then other clubs come and get him, especially Real and Barca. If Pogba played how he should, asked by coach, not ruining games with 100500 ball losing, definitely he would be in RM achieving doubles or trebles now.
@@MichaelOkoli10 what's weird? Players' individual performance not only about fortune. That's why big clubs make transfers even from 2nd, 3rd, 4th divisions or outsider teams.
Liban is not answering the questions, he is answering the questions he wants to answer. It is the way you word the question. When someone is aksing who the best player 'currently' is or who the best player this season is. You can of course (partially) disregard past performances.
Right now: kdb> odeegard This season: odeegard> kdb Yes this is so confusing but these terms have a different meaning Same goes with pep and arteta.. right now and this season is different. This season u only look at this seasons performance whereas right now is a balance between of (form,past, future) whereas season is just that season
How has kdb standards dropped I’m loosing my mind watching this 😂😂how ! Even just watching games what kdb does Ignore stats Just watch the games But let me bring up stats 25 games 3 goals 16 assist 11 assist in the league in 18 games aun Odegaard 23 games 8 goals 5 assist Literally just in the league Kdb stats are in every competition
I don’t agree with what Liban said about Barca. Barca is in the middle of a rebuild with a lot of young players. Having lost their best players they had to adapt a lot cuz the impact Messi had on the team is something that is inevitable and not an argument. With the right coach( Im not saying its xavi maybe with time) they can definitely reach THAT level again. How Barca play currently without any injured important players they would still be competing for the champions league. Since they have been kicked out of the ucl they have been a different team(maybe a blessing in disguise going to the uel lol) but my point is Barca can and most likely will reacht THAT level again and Pedri can be seen being in table 1 as Fayz said.
People ain’t been watching Casemiro this season and it’s so obvious, people saying he just tackles and passes the ball to the next man like his passing hasn’t been unbelievable this season
They did Fabinho so dirty 6 months of bad form and everybody is forgetting what prime Fabinho has done. Party over fabinho just based on this season is stinky.
@@WaddupYT i wouldn’t even say he’s been better this season. I mean, as an arsenal fan tjat doesn’t watch Man U week in week out there’s defo some bias but Partey has been so unbelievably influential. Overall yeh obvs Casemiro
@Samir Nasri Arsenal are top of the league, obviously they have won more games than United. Saying that means Partey > Casemiri is such a stupid argument. Then any starting player for Arsenal is the best in their position in the league according to your logic. I agree Partey has been class this season, but don't try to make flawed arguments like that please.
The problem with Sharky is he thinks form = overall. KdB is a better player, Odegaard is playinng better this season but you can’t base everything off form. Arsenal could finish 5th next season who knows
Casemiro doesn’t dictate play like Partey bro come on or start attacks, Casemiro is more traditional DM, excels defensively and pass on to another midfielder
I gotta back Faysal with the Modric-Gerrard thing. In the end Gerrard had the chance to move to a side that had a great manager and better side but he stuck by Liverpool. Which is cool, but he stripped himself of more glory and only has himself to blame why he isn't perceived as different. I can't give him hypothetical points for something he did not do, whereas Modrid did. Same goes for Pogba, he has the opportunity to go to MSN Barca and La Decima winning Real Madrid before he left Juve, but decided to chase a fairytale at United. That is his fault, he had the ability, and his ability bought him the opportunity, he just didn't take it. As a Barca fan, Modric sits on the table with Zizou, Iniesta and Xavi. Pogba and Gerrard absolutely don't. Pedri does have the potential to be one of the all-time great midfielders. His calmness, poise, and maturity since he has debuted with Barca at 18 is far more advanced than any midfield we have seen. He is easily far more talented than Xavi and Iniesta was at their age, who they didnt come into their own till they were 25ish. Pedri is the only true "generational" midfielder of his generation.
@@nolpan9708 Perhaps could learn to comprehend better. I suggested that Pogba and Gerrard have themselves to blame for not going to better sides when they had the opportunity. Whats so hard to understand.
@@ra7671 Because loyalty shouldn't also give you bonus points when it comes from lack of trophies. As great as Gerrard was he only has 1 UCL to show for it while other ahead of him were serial winners. You simply cannot compare. Cool he is loyal, however that doesn't account for nothing when comparing players.
@@ricardouyema Im not saying loyalty is a perk but trophy logic is silly, he couldve gone to chelsea and won 4/5 titles, the fact is it wouldn’t make him a betting player
Madrid should sign Pogba. I know he’s old but these days, top ability players last until 34/35. Pogba just had surgery so that is out the way now. With Tchou. & Camavinga behind, Pogba can take the light from Modric & maybe last as long as Modric agewise. Real can save Pogba’s career
anyone who can unironically believe odegard is better than KDB must be in an alternate reality to me. I refuse to believe anyone who watches football in my reality could think that.
Zidane also said Paul Scholes was the toughest opponent he faced in his career. Why do people take what football players say about other players seriously. Which player would say "Oh he wasn't as good as this person" or something.
27:36 I am sorry but this is just utter nonsense. If you're basing the "Arsenal fans" off the ones of twitter instead of listening to "actual" fans of the club, not one would have put any Arsenal players in a top 11 of last campaign, maybe if you're tryharding you could say Saka. Now suddenly, when Arsenal is factually the best performing team in the league, how come there shouldn't be 7-8 players in the best 11 of this season? (so far atleast) I obviously know that Casemiro is a much much much bigger name than Partey. However I don't get how it is so ridiculous to say that Partey has been the best PL dm THIS SEASON. Yes Casemiro has won 5 CLs and this and that but people are getting carried away with his big name in football. Partey is basically the main reason why Arsenal is on top right now and we will never know if ManU would be in the same situation if the DMs were swapped. Easy as that
I can accept people saying Casemiro is better than Partey this season. But I can’t accept that theres a significant gap between the two and that anybody can slot in and do the job that Partey does.
Liban cooked Sharky for a whole hour 💀
Brudda thinks hes always right. Liban humbled him
@@wizzlurkio2669 he's a zesty ass boy too, have you seen some of his Tiktoks
@@mebarkiimad8999 chill out we like sharky, his ball knowledge just aint it
@@mebarkiimad8999 yeah he needs to stop doing that 💀
what does that have to do with anything@@mebarkiimad8999
Liban speaking facts the whole time, kdb still the best midfielder in the league
Ong and I’m a Liverpool fan
Talking nonsense about Liverpool
And calling Nunez arse is nonsense
He just wants Klopp out lol
Odegaard has the same g/a, he has been miles better defensively, he's been the captain so gains a tonne there and he also doesn't have the best striker in the league in front of him. If you actually watch football this season, there's only one answer.
I hate Arsenal but odegard been better he controls a whole game tempo KDB more last action player
@@anny-ei7kl you don’t know ball shush
LIBAN IS ACTUALLY CLEVER NO CAP sharky has once again proved hes an absolute casual with his take at 21:19 absolutely shocking from him
Agrred, and when you deep it, Partey wasn't considered to be amongst the top 3 dm's ,last season, but now he's all of a sudden better than Casemiro ? Good form in the prem produced the most horrid football debates
@@123kaired casemiro won his fifth champions league last season so what's ur point lol
@@123kaired so ur telling me Casemiro wasn’t extremely influential in that Real Madrid side? Don’t me the usual casual bollocks of he got carried by his team. Real Madrid ain’t winning 5 champions leagues with partey in that midfield
@@123kaired because being top of the league for 6 months competes with winning 5 champions leagues😂😂 so no not the same thing at all. Casemiro is better even taking away club achievements anyway. Straight fact.
@@123kaired I acc want Arsenal to win the league 😂😂 so are you gunna run away from the discussion now?
Odegaard over De Bruyne (even this season) is a WILD take. People like to talk about haaland effect but no one else at City has put up impressive creative numbers. If he keeps up this rate, he’ll end up with 20 assists which is the prem record. His gameplay has taken a slight step down from his astronomical form at the beginning of the year. But come on guys
He already has the Prem assist record joint with Henry.
ye I dont see that, Liban's got that spot on. Sure Odegard has been insane this season but if someone has it "easier" out of the 2 it's him. He has a full 11 performing around him
Odegaard has the same g/a, he has been miles better defensively, he's been the captain so gains a tonne there and he also doesn't have the best striker in the league in front of him. If you actually watch football this season, there's only one answer.
@Samir Nasri odegaard having his best year and de Bruyne been off since the World Cup. But let’s talk facts. (I won’t include Carabao and FA cup since Odegaard hasn’t played, only including Europa and Ucl even tho it’s dumb cuz Ucl way more difficult) KDB has 16 G+A in 22 games in prem + Ucl, Odegaard has 13 g+a in 23 prem + Europa games
absolutely no one was saying this before the World Cup. KDB hasn’t had a great January but he and Haaland were the outstanding players in the league before the WC. Let’s not be myopic here please
So many languages Liban could’ve chosen to speak throughout this podcast but he chose to speak facts.
i agree with what liban was saying the whole ep. There is a difference between asking : which midfielder has had the best season so far? or which midfielder is the best in the premier league right now?
the first one I’d answer with odegaard but the second one is still de bruyne.
How have you already watched the whole ep
The whole episode??? Bro it’s 50 min long and it’s been out for 5 min idk what the hell you’re smoking g
@@martnart5825 10x speed
@@aran6372 audio been out since tuesday
u right, I'm with Liban , recency bias killing football
Liban was on fire in this episode
LIban's spot on with the 'who's the best' argument cause so often people are arguing different things, form or overall, you get two completely different answers
Liban talking straight facts the entire video
To say liverpool would be better without klopp is disgusting. He’s one of the best tactical managers ever and right now his squad is thin. He’s had to rely on kids and Ox left wing. Fabinho has lost it and he needs midfielders that can run and press. He needs his wingers to be pressing machines. He needs liverpool to spend big money to change that midfield
Zidane was playing for Cannes when he was 19 and Modric was on loan at Zrinjski Mostar when he was 19. Pedri has a clearer path to table 1 (not saying that means he'll get there)
So Barcelona fans are still comparing nobodies to legends of the game?
Just because pedri is cold at this age doesnt mean he's gonna reach table 1 fabregas was better than pedri at the same age and no one really considers him table 1
@@guleedabdule I agree, my point was just that he has a head start regarding the boys argument that you have to be lucky with the team/players you're surrounded by that's all
That’s a silly way to look at things. Alli had the world at his feet at 21. Mahrez was playing in the french Second division. 10 years from now who’s gonna be remembered more? As i said silly way to look at things
@@kabirkhan3524 oh I don't disagree. I wouldn't predict a single player currently to reach the levels of the 'table 1' I was just countering the discussion that they put forward on relying on luck of the era/players around them that pedri has a little bit of a head start thats all
Casemiro clearrrrrr. Not sure why a debate is being forced
Arsenal fans delusional
Fu needs to be a regular on the show😭😭
Facts bro brings Pure entertainment #boxoffice
He’s actually so funny to bro
swap partey and casemiro rn and you’ll see the massive difference. i dont think partey can do the job like how casemiro does at united.
Diff systems
What? Partey is literally the most important player in the best team in the league. Partey since he started playing at 6 has been doing things for arsenal that no other player could
Mate your talking shit you have lost games with casemiro this season…he works for you guys cus ur midfield is terrible. Partey literally the most important player at Arsenal as you saw we lost when he didnt play. The win percentage of Arsenal winning with Partey is 80%. Furthermore Arsenal top of the league…because of the solidarity Partey provide.
Different players - defensively Casemiro is better, on the ball Partey is better. Both are top DMs. Casemiro ofc all timer and Partey is not but we’re comparing them now and in the systems they play
partey is more important for ares la than casemiro is for united. It doesn’t matter partey can’t play exactly like casemiro because if they switch they both fail
This is why I don’t want arsenal to win the league . Their fans start forcing the most random debates ever 😭😭Casemiro is clear it’s not even a question
it’s definitely a question., casemiro has had 5 good games for united, while partey has been excellent the whole season
Casemiro played 14 games and statically he is better defensively and going forward see this is what people are talking about you’re making shit up
@@ewitdakey8683 he was shocking when he first started and there’s no way you think casemiro is better going forward and dictating play. for the entirety of his career at madrid they made sure he was never involved in build up play due to his limited skill on the ball
@@marcelohendrix6139 he’s been arguably Utd player of the season along with rashford
@@marcelohendrix6139 I’m talking about this season Madrid he had kroos and modrich it’s different and casemiro has been putting in consistent man of the match performances since he started stop making shit up
Liban was on that socrates level of wisdom this episode
he like that every episode
Faysal was right about pedri if he was English he would be put above any other midfielder, pedri has definitely has the potential to be in that table 1 section
We deffo need more of Fu 🐐
Nah sharks wilding wallah, even as a heavy Barca fan like die hard wallah, saying Modric and Gerad is the same caliber is crazyyyy, Modric clear, the things he is doing at that age is up there with the bests, I only got Iniesta and zizou over him
Make a top 10 on Players that had the biggest potential but didn’t achieve it!!
The arsenal recency bias on this podcast is insane, Partey and Odegaard aren’t even in the same conversation as Casemiro and De Bruyne
Stay mute mate , kdb was average at 23 man wasn’t even starter at a big club at age 23 jeez odeegard was already star at Age 16 what you won about even coquellin would have won 5 ucl titles with kroos and modric with him in midfield casemiro is great but not head and shoulders above partey I bet to disagree if he dominated partey statistically when they both played in la liga
@@dycolonythegem “Even coquelin”? Why the fuck did they not retain the CL with James Rodriguez or Xabi Alonso then? Why did they do it with Casemiro.
@@dycolonythegem star at '16' but took him 8 years to finally breakthrough yeah yeah. You arsenal fans are deluded. Crazy recency bias.
If the question is who the best prem midfielder is CURRNTLY, then you have to go off of recency
@@msmwn1586 that's what's ruining football. Recency bias. It destroys players. What happens if partey drops off no one is ever gonna say oh yea that one year he was better than casemiro.
Honestly This was the best Hot take episode in a while
Love from South Africa❤ 🇿🇦
Day 3: For a more entertaining goat bracket and a bracket that does not really feature world class players, I think you should do a streets won’t forget bracket. How bout do 32 bracket cause there is a bunch of players you can pick from: Brackets indicate their prime clubs, prime season
1 Taarabt (QPR, 10/11 or 12/13)
2 Ben Arfa (Newcastle and Nice, 11/12 or 15/16)
3 Payet (West Ham and Marseille, 15/16)
4 Gourcuff (Bordeaux, 08/09)
5 Michu (Swansea, 12/13)
6 Jay Jay Okocha (PSG and Bolton, 2000-2006)
7 Ba and Cisse (They have to be a duo, 11/12)
8 Santa Cruz (Blackburn, 07/08)
9 Antonio Cassano (Roma Sampdoria AC Milan, 2001-2010)
10 Rafael Van Der Vaart (Ajax spurs Hamburg, 2000s-2012)
11 Ramires (Chelsea, 2012-2015)
12 Nani (Manchester United, 10/11)
13 Juninho (Middlesbrough, 1997-2002)
14 Juninho (Lyon, 2004-2008)
15 Arshavin (Zenit and Arsenal, 2008-2011)
16 Adriano (Inter Milan, 2003-2006)
17 Robinho (City and Real Madrid and AC Milan, 2000s-2011)
18 Dele Alli (Tottenham 2015-2019)
19 Quaresma (Porto and Besiktas, 2004-2008 or 2014-2019)
20 Balotelli (Manchester City and AC Milan, 2010-2018)
21 Pablo Aimar (Valencia and Benfica and he was Messi’s idol, 2001-2006 or 2008-2012)
22 Berbatov (Manchester United and Tottenham 2004-2012)
23 Nasri (Arsenal and City, 2007-2016)
24 Mancini (Brazilian guy from Roma, 2003-2008)
25 Guti (Real Madrid, 2000s)
26 Moussa Dembele (Tottenham, whole Tottenham career)
27 Recoba (Inter Milan, 1999-2004)
28 Riquelme (Boca Juniors and Villarreal, 1998-2006)
29 Sinisa Mihajlovic (Lazio and inter Milan, 1991-2006)
30 Hulk (Porto and Zenit, 2010-2016)
31 Alex (Fenerbahce, 2004-2012)
32 Sturridge (Liverpool, 2013/14)
I will do this on my own podcast
Goated list
I see what u r trying to do but a lot of these, it’s disrespectful to do a streets won’t forget
Honestly love this idea
Wilfred Boney at swansea too!
Did not even watch the video and I already think the title is outrageous
i love how he tried to bring in Fabinho into the number 1 spot😭😭
When Sharky makes sure we remember some of the good takes he’s had so much😂like bro we get it people are gonna be right at times but we ain’t forgetting your horror takes either
I'll never forget when he said ramsdale is better than Peter schmeichal
A clock is right twice a day 😂 he’s a typical arsenal fan that can’t see past the arsenal lens
CASEMIRO, RODRI AND PARTEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAYERS WHO PLAY IN THE SAME POSITION. its hard to compare coz their roles are so different
Not really...casemiro and rodri do more Going forward than partey and are very much alike
@@siphobanda1707 man, what???????lmaoooo im a united fan and sometimes casemiro goes in and plays centre back what are u on about
@@allanshema3838 and so does rodri ...watch man city play he's like a 3rd in possession
Its hard to compare them because Casemeiro is so clear of them both. The fact that this is a discussion is a complete joke.
No wtf lol it was so clear Rodri and Casemiro were way clear of partey lol😂
Modric 100% table one!
Modric didn’t come to madrid while they were a wining side! He came in a difficult patch and since coming on against United in the Ucl he transformed this team to a winning team!
Modric is a ballon dor winner in Messi and Ronaldo’s era!
Modric appears when it matters and made history for his national team!
Modric is a legend of the game and definitely top 4 in the world!
Gerard and Lampard are no where close to that table! They can only get close to them if they were serving!
Did anyone clocked sharky saying “ I played dm for 7 years…… busquets levels” 🤣🤣
Claude Makélélé is the best DM in premier league history. He had the role named after him. Facts.
The de bruyne agenda is crazy hey
It’s calm if your going for the best you better hope you don’t miss
@Modric X Ronaldinho X zidane why you gotta do Trent and Beckham like that
This Partey Casemiro debate sums up how much people know football. Top players like Messi &Ronaldo have been doing it for 10 years + a player has a good season and they want to get compared. Please STOP. Partey is having a amazing season. Let him do it for 5 more seasons and we can talk. Don’t ever bring in the greats of this game to someone who’s having a good 15 months.
Partey is better than casemiro
Only Liban spoke facts this epi man
SDS deserves 1 million subs by the end of the year
i LOVE the hot take videos. I could genuinely sit here and watch 10 hours of them.
Liban is the only one who isnt a yes man, he needs back up on there lmao
Best episode yet!! Great discussion and well debated from everyone around complex things in football!
odegaard over kdb is insane, faysal and sharky are maddddddddddddd
Idk how you can say that isn't just recency bias because that's all it is LMFAO
Seriously lmao. These guys would be calling Alexis better than CR7 or something crazy like that in 2017. Can't make statements like that based on half a season.
This has aged so wellllll
as a Barca fan I can say Luka Modric is sitting comfortably on table 1
Pedri will be a table one midfielder, once the young players like gavi, balde, araujo, fati, frenkie, etc. in that Barca team develop a bit more it could be a very good team that can win multiple trophies
de jong not young
@@lhb873 26 he has a long career ahead of him
About casemiro having great players around him, he moved to a struggling Utd with fred and scott who are a liability in the pl around him (although fred has improved because of casemiro performance) and eriksen with him who's made of glass he still carries the team.
Nunez isn’t a flop
Things will Turn around heavy
Just based on his output it's crazy to even say he is having a bad season.
that’s what they said about werner lmaooo
@@amolmehrotra1296 5 goals in 14 games for a striker… for 85m it’s very meh, especially given that he absolutely fails the eye test and Liverpool are having a bad season. 5 in 14 is fine but he’s part of the reason Liverpool isn’t doing well this season
@@HahaHaha-fu6vk he has a goal or assist every 2 games lol for a young striker that's pretty good for his first season in a new league. Don't know why people are hating. Also it wasn't 85 mill pounds, it was 64 mill pounds check your facts before commenting.
Dm in prem right now 1.casemiro 2. Rodri
3.Partey 4. Fabinho(btw I’m an arsenal fan
FUZZY needs to be here more often. He makes this podcasts so funny.
This partey and casemiro debate is just mental. Casemiro is so clear it ain’t even a question. If arsenal fans actually watched casemiro every week for united they would say the same. Guy is an unbelievable player
“don’t group me in with other arsenal fans”- sharky…. as he proceeds to behave like every arsenal fan he says he’s not..
Sick video guys! SDS levelled up recently these episodes are your best so far man for sure!
I'll say this now and I'll say this again, Mesut Ozil was one of if not the greatest attacking midfielder of all time.
“He’s eating chicken!! and he’s eating dates!!” FFF is too good 🤣🤣
There is no way people think Partey is even close to casemiro, i would take casemiro with a blindfold over partey any day of the week. The disrespect and delusion is insane.
Listening to this now is hilarious cause Rodri is 100% the best Prem DM ever now.
I swear Faysal is always right. 1st with Modric, and this is coming from a barca fan, Modric is even levels ahead of Gerrard, he is also imo, a barca fan, better than Xavi. Table one is currently consisting of Xavi, Modric, Iniesta and Zidan, and in that order btw. 2nd is the Pedri argument, he is in a struggling Barca team in comparision and is by far the best Midfielder in the world atm. And that is not a crazy thing to say because the only 2 Midfielders that are able to dictate a whole game are Modric and Pedri.
Im a Madrid fan and I completely agree.. I don’t get how these man are comparing the likes of xavi modric iniesta etc to the likes of gerrard. I get the thing with timing and era but not to extend that they’re better or on the same level.
Agree with you till you placed Zidane 4th 😂
But overall agree! Gerard and Lampard can get close to that table only if they were serving the dishes!
@@SpecialOne099 nah bruv, the order was Zidan 1st Iniesta 2nd Modric 3rd and Xavi 4th. I aint crazy to disrespect Zidan fam
@@mokafreej601 😂😂😂 respect bro! I was like this guy knows ball but doesn’t in the same sentence!! 😂😂 all the best
Makelele is the best PL DM of all time. Can't believe they forgot his name.
their ball knowledge is limited past 2015 lmaooo
@Modric X Ronaldinho X zidane you know
@Modric X Ronaldinho X zidane Bruh... It's like people forget Modric played in the Prem. Tbh Pogba isn't even as talented as Thiago lol.
I can’t wait for Barcelona to trash Man UTD so you can realise that Barcelona is back
Pirlo deserves a shout in the 1 table
Every year its De Bruyne vs ___
Liban is very good at avoiding recency bias, so much to the point he struggles to consider a players current form and their future potential. Balance is needed with these arguments and liban lacks it
It’s only recency bias when it suits him, same way he talks about garnancho being star boy
Lol he was right tho at the end of the season everything was correct kdb better then Odegaard snarky wasn’t correct about a single thing 😂
As a chelsea fan odegaard is by far the best midfielder in the league this season
Loved the energy in the vid, SDS Cookin in 2023
Rodri is clear of them both
Rodri proved against spurs why casemiro is clear
On terms of defensive midfielders in the Premier League: Kanté, Fernandinho and Makelélé would be my top 3 of all time. Fabinho, Rodri, etc... are definitely part of the conversations.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I lost it when Fayz questioned Gerrard's impact on the team 💀
Ye but Luka modric is better ability wise
@@rbstickymicky66 lost me
I think odegard just slightly over kdb this year, Liban literally talking about comparing partey in Man U club and then he saying you can’t compare odegard in city’s if odegard was in city’s team this year based on this season he probably wouldn’t have 8 goals but he would have more assists. Based on this year odegard is just slightly better
Not everything is about fortune. When player does his job well constantly, keeps his own level apart of team's success, then other clubs come and get him, especially Real and Barca. If Pogba played how he should, asked by coach, not ruining games with 100500 ball losing, definitely he would be in RM achieving doubles or trebles now.
Pogba won the world cup and scored in the final. Weird example
@@MichaelOkoli10 what's weird? Players' individual performance not only about fortune. That's why big clubs make transfers even from 2nd, 3rd, 4th divisions or outsider teams.
Liban is not answering the questions, he is answering the questions he wants to answer. It is the way you word the question. When someone is aksing who the best player 'currently' is or who the best player this season is. You can of course (partially) disregard past performances.
Sharky was mad wrong over his Partey take 😂😂😂
Right now: kdb> odeegard
This season: odeegard> kdb
Yes this is so confusing but these terms have a different meaning
Same goes with pep and arteta..
right now and this season is different.
This season u only look at this seasons performance whereas right now is a balance between of (form,past, future) whereas season is just that season
THANK YOU, but I thought this was just common sense
7:50 sharky got him😂
17:50 oh my days
19:50
Liban carried this episode he’s ball knowledge is insane 🧠 Thank you for exposing Arsenal fans they are so delusional
How has kdb standards dropped
I’m loosing my mind watching this 😂😂how !
Even just watching games what kdb does
Ignore stats
Just watch the games
But let me bring up stats
25 games 3 goals 16 assist
11 assist in the league in 18 games aun
Odegaard
23 games 8 goals 5 assist
Literally just in the league
Kdb stats are in every competition
Partey finally started turning up in an Arsenal shirt after flopping his 1st season & now they think he’s the best
liban is all over the place in this episode
liban was spitting straight facts
I don’t agree with what Liban said about Barca. Barca is in the middle of a rebuild with a lot of young players. Having lost their best players they had to adapt a lot cuz the impact Messi had on the team is something that is inevitable and not an argument. With the right coach( Im not saying its xavi maybe with time) they can definitely reach THAT level again. How Barca play currently without any injured important players they would still be competing for the champions league. Since they have been kicked out of the ucl they have been a different team(maybe a blessing in disguise going to the uel lol) but my point is Barca can and most likely will reacht THAT level again and Pedri can be seen being in table 1 as Fayz said.
Liban makes complete sense and they looking at him crazy 😂
Faysal got so heated he forgot the argument they were having was whether gerrard and modric should sit at the same table 🤣🤣
HOT TAKE:
At the moment Julian Alverez is in the top 5 list of the best strikers in the PL
People ain’t been watching Casemiro this season and it’s so obvious, people saying he just tackles and passes the ball to the next man like his passing hasn’t been unbelievable this season
Sds is goated
The fact Nketiah was unanimous as top 10 st is wild.
Jesus
Kane
Richarlison
Haaland
Alvarez
Toney
Wilson
Mitrovic
Isak
Felix
Nunez
Martial
All better
They did Fabinho so dirty 6 months of bad form and everybody is forgetting what prime Fabinho has done. Party over fabinho just based on this season is stinky.
He was shit last season as well
Factos
Elite video guys. Love the back and forth debate 🔝
Partey over Casemiro shouldn’t be a hot take whatsoever
@@WaddupYT what? No that’s not what I’m saying. Partey has been absolutely phenomenal, saying miro is MILES clear is delusionsl
@@WaddupYT i wouldn’t even say he’s been better this season. I mean, as an arsenal fan tjat doesn’t watch Man U week in week out there’s defo some bias but Partey has been so unbelievably influential. Overall yeh obvs Casemiro
@Samir Nasri Arsenal are top of the league, obviously they have won more games than United. Saying that means Partey > Casemiri is such a stupid argument. Then any starting player for Arsenal is the best in their position in the league according to your logic.
I agree Partey has been class this season, but don't try to make flawed arguments like that please.
@@WaddupYTyou could not be more wrong.
The problem with Sharky is he thinks form = overall. KdB is a better player, Odegaard is playinng better this season but you can’t base everything off form. Arsenal could finish 5th next season who knows
The difference between Partey and other DM’s is that Partey excels in defending AND dictating play AND starting attacks - Casemiro can’t do that
Sorry? 😕
Casemiro doesn’t dictate play like Partey bro come on or start attacks, Casemiro is more traditional DM, excels defensively and pass on to another midfielder
Watch united games this season he starts attacks often.
@@NabzMC when has casemiro dictate play? madrid literally made sure he didn’t touch the ball in the buildup for ten years
Casemiro can do everything partey can do and do it better
this video aged well
I gotta back Faysal with the Modric-Gerrard thing. In the end Gerrard had the chance to move to a side that had a great manager and better side but he stuck by Liverpool. Which is cool, but he stripped himself of more glory and only has himself to blame why he isn't perceived as different. I can't give him hypothetical points for something he did not do, whereas Modrid did. Same goes for Pogba, he has the opportunity to go to MSN Barca and La Decima winning Real Madrid before he left Juve, but decided to chase a fairytale at United. That is his fault, he had the ability, and his ability bought him the opportunity, he just didn't take it. As a Barca fan, Modric sits on the table with Zizou, Iniesta and Xavi. Pogba and Gerrard absolutely don't.
Pedri does have the potential to be one of the all-time great midfielders. His calmness, poise, and maturity since he has debuted with Barca at 18 is far more advanced than any midfield we have seen. He is easily far more talented than Xavi and Iniesta was at their age, who they didnt come into their own till they were 25ish. Pedri is the only true "generational" midfielder of his generation.
Did u just compare pogba with Gerrard? Nah get out
@@nolpan9708 Perhaps could learn to comprehend better. I suggested that Pogba and Gerrard have themselves to blame for not going to better sides when they had the opportunity. Whats so hard to understand.
@@ricardouyemaWhy is loyalty being used as a stick to beat him with
@@ra7671 Because loyalty shouldn't also give you bonus points when it comes from lack of trophies. As great as Gerrard was he only has 1 UCL to show for it while other ahead of him were serial winners. You simply cannot compare.
Cool he is loyal, however that doesn't account for nothing when comparing players.
@@ricardouyema Im not saying loyalty is a perk but trophy logic is silly, he couldve gone to chelsea and won 4/5 titles, the fact is it wouldn’t make him a betting player
Madrid should sign Pogba. I know he’s old but these days, top ability players last until 34/35. Pogba just had surgery so that is out the way now.
With Tchou. & Camavinga behind, Pogba can take the light from Modric & maybe last as long as Modric agewise. Real can save Pogba’s career
Putting odgard on same bracket with KDB 🤦😂💔 OMG
31:53 Faysal is bang on KDB has been shite for a couple months now
Think they’re both playing at a top, top level tbh. As a neutral I can’t pick a standout.
I feel like the reason a player like gerrard isn’t in the “table 1” discussion is because he played in the premier league.
For me when someone says currently I think say there was a game tomorrow who would I want playing for my team
anyone who can unironically believe odegard is better than KDB must be in an alternate reality to me. I refuse to believe anyone who watches football in my reality could think that.
Liban carried this. Speaking straight facts
Zidane also said Paul Scholes was the toughest opponent he faced in his career. Why do people take what football players say about other players seriously. Which player would say "Oh he wasn't as good as this person" or something.
27:36 I am sorry but this is just utter nonsense. If you're basing the "Arsenal fans" off the ones of twitter instead of listening to "actual" fans of the club, not one would have put any Arsenal players in a top 11 of last campaign, maybe if you're tryharding you could say Saka. Now suddenly, when Arsenal is factually the best performing team in the league, how come there shouldn't be 7-8 players in the best 11 of this season? (so far atleast) I obviously know that Casemiro is a much much much bigger name than Partey. However I don't get how it is so ridiculous to say that Partey has been the best PL dm THIS SEASON. Yes Casemiro has won 5 CLs and this and that but people are getting carried away with his big name in football. Partey is basically the main reason why Arsenal is on top right now and we will never know if ManU would be in the same situation if the DMs were swapped. Easy as that
Partey been good for some months and they want to compare him to a man who has been delivering excellence going a decade
I can accept people saying Casemiro is better than Partey this season. But I can’t accept that theres a significant gap between the two and that anybody can slot in and do the job that Partey does.
9:49 nobody caught Sharkys Game of Thrones reference??? 😭😭😭