Morning family and Advocate 😭😭😭Iyooh siyagula icase kaSenzo really why is not giving a time to mourned Advocate defence has no control over this cooking how will you help in this regard please help Muzi Sibiya please as an advocate since you are aware please help God raise you for the time like this it's not a mistake that God raise you Mina I was not happy how things were done no justice in this country until you help us Adv Mngomezulu and God bless us with you 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔
Mrng Adv,,,God will Make a way for Muzi Sibiya,he will protect him,,he,s the only 1 ho knw,s why things happened like this,,,but what i no he will on his side, South African,s Let us help Muzi ,,How can we do,,,Maybee to donate so that the Legal Represen can be paid, Sometimes, to get thing,s for free in not ok,,,,We are Parents,, God he will Reward us for that,,The Hand that gives,,,Becoming more Blessed than the 1 that Receive,🙏🙏🙏
@@NalediMokgosi-zy1fs legal fees are expensive, it's not something that we can rely on individuals to contribute, otherwise funds can run out on the way, the only solution would have been "go fund me" that would have started a long time ago, it's too late now
To my understanding it was not Legal Aid which was giving Muzi an ultimatum, it's the judge who was forcing him to decide yet the court will come back on the 20th and by then Legal Aid offices will be opened, hence the defense insisted to come back on the 8th, to make a decision
Advocate I believe Defence team were still in shock and traumatized about the death of Adv Mngomezulu the did not see this coming like all of us today is Adv Mngomezulu Global dissapointmentmay the Holy Spirit helped us @this time😭😭😭😭
Legal Aid South Africa owes the citizens an explanation on the following aspects: 1. Why did it refuse to pay the legal fees of the first accused when he was being represented by Adv Ngomezulu? may his soul rest in peace. 2. Why would it now be acceptable to it to fund legal fees of accused one when he would be represented by another lawyer now? 3. Why can the differentiation not be regarded as discrimination against the late adv Ngomezulu and accused one on account of the provision of legal aid to other co-accused in the same matter? 4. Why legal aid cannot be ordered by the public protector to reimburse accused one legal fees he paid vide his uncle to hire private counsel as the result of the discrimination ?
Stop following this case via social media. Mngomezulu was not paid by legal aid because he was brought by Ramosepele ONLY for the trial within a trial. It was Muzi who fired Ramosepele and his uncle opted him to be represented by a private lawyer.
Give Tefo bit a break to be with his family & to recover from his long imprisonment. Try to catch him first week in Jan. May not be in the mood to be entertaining any legal matters right now. Needs time to recover. Must give all his attention to his family first. Then address south Africans if he wants to Man needs to be well first
Judge Ratha is unfair i started viewing him as a posted person in this case to sentence the wrongful accused people on this matter,after he took confession statement from Ntanzi as admissable.From the to me it raise serious Concerns
At least Advocate Nxumalo tried insisting that Friday was too short . Thank you, Advocate for raising this issue so sharply. We hope it won't fall into deaf eyes.
Good morning advocate i was thinking maybe one of the advocate well help mozi Sibiya i was thinking the defence lawyers one of them can help for muzi Sibiya ❤
The judge has demonstrated lots of breach of confidentiality. This matter of sibiya s lawer and that he has to discuss with his family. How much time he needs. This was not supposed to be discussed public they do have Chambers to discuss matters like this. Also how a judge can expect sibiya to have full mental capacity to take wise decisions at this period of time few hours after his lawyer passed on. I suspect the judge himself lacks mental capacity due to old age related symptoms. He didn't show any remose. Completely unprofessional and disgrace
They just bring back TT Thobane...he gave the previous judge a hard time and think that he won't be intimidated by Gininda...The God that we pray to will not leave Muzi.He is watching over him and will give him strength.
Good morning my Advocate. South African justice system is a serious circus. Judge Ratha was even making jokes about it, telling lawyers, "I won't be present watching soccer in EPL blaa blaa blaaa". True those defence lawyers in court sometimes behave amateurish. Even though I sometimes trust the 4 defence, Adv Teffo once warned us about the 4 lawyers of being coerced by the state to present weak defence so they can be found guilty.
If Muzi Sibiya was a foreigner the SAHRC would have gone to court for him the defend his right to choose. Justice cannot be done if the custodians of justice are rotten.
Judge ratha is making sure he used any opportunity he gets to frustrate the poor accused and the defenders. This man he never showed sympathy to them where he seems is showing sympathy you must there is a trap for them
I really doubt if this s is a proper judge....proper human being...this person they are protecting must be a king or god of some sort....so many people have been unalived since Senzo died!!!!!!
And us ad self proclaimed legal experts, we are stupid or crazy for using common sense 😢... everyone that believes the state in this case has an agenda, stroes
And I dont believe we have a guns blazing defense team. They too quite amateurish at the best of times. I suppose they need to be gainfully employed by legal aid for as long as possible. Hardly anybody in SA has ever heard of this lot before the senzo trial.
Wat action plan do you have advocate. The information u giving us we know it. U seem to be very concerned but also u seem not to have a plan. Words without action is just like water in sand
It was clear before mngomezulu passing that muzis uncle couldn't afford to pay mngomezulu thats why he was alway absent in court, so he should have decided long time. How long time does he need?
Advocate as you have said that Muzi sibiya needs time to apply to legal aid bord and is not being gifen time why dont you take upon yourself and repressent him yourself as a good samaritan
Adv you could not visit Teffo in jail but you run your mouth about his confession from Longer ,now his out you couldn't even get hold of him Teffo.. .now you talking about Sibiya you are just a big joke yourself...the legal aid board representative was in court on Wednesday pliz speer us woogwash...
Morning advocate if you can assist Muzi please kindly do so try to get hold of him family and help them please ndiyakucela bandla
I still can't understand why a moment of silence was observed without the accused persons, especially Muzi Sibiya.
Ratha a lo xwela,he was so excited that wizard
Im always wondering if Ratha is a human being? 😢😢😮😮
WELL SAID .
Bring back Thobane.
I regret the day i followed this case it has drained me im emotionally 😢😢😢hurting
Me too sis. I am finished
I am sorry ti hear this.God will heal you.
Sorry.
What goes on in that courtroom yooh should be called a CIRCUS 😮😮😮
@@ThabisaTyobo-nh3bw it's easy. Quit watching
Morning family and Advocate 😭😭😭Iyooh siyagula icase kaSenzo really why is not giving a time to mourned Advocate defence has no control over this cooking how will you help in this regard please help Muzi Sibiya please as an advocate since you are aware please help God raise you for the time like this it's not a mistake that God raise you Mina I was not happy how things were done no justice in this country until you help us Adv Mngomezulu and God bless us with you 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔
Thanks advocate we need someone to represent Muzi and that person mustn't be soft because of that judge and Baloyi
Let this advocate represent him and lets see if there is any. difference he will make
Good morning advocate,jaaaah SA have no words😢
South Africa is a big problem. We are led by compromised individuals.
Mrng Adv,,,God will Make a way for Muzi Sibiya,he will protect him,,he,s the only 1 ho knw,s why things happened like this,,,but what i no he will on his side, South African,s Let us help Muzi ,,How can we do,,,Maybee to donate so that the Legal Represen can be paid, Sometimes, to get thing,s for free in not ok,,,,We are Parents,, God he will Reward us for that,,The Hand that gives,,,Becoming more Blessed than the 1 that Receive,🙏🙏🙏
Legal aid is not for free tax payers are paying those lawyers
But I get what you are saying, very true
@@NalediMokgosi-zy1fs legal fees are expensive, it's not something that we can rely on individuals to contribute, otherwise funds can run out on the way, the only solution would have been "go fund me" that would have started a long time ago, it's too late now
To my understanding it was not Legal Aid which was giving Muzi an ultimatum, it's the judge who was forcing him to decide yet the court will come back on the 20th and by then Legal Aid offices will be opened, hence the defense insisted to come back on the 8th, to make a decision
Advocate I believe Defence team were still in shock and traumatized about the death of Adv Mngomezulu the did not see this coming like all of us today is Adv Mngomezulu Global dissapointmentmay the Holy Spirit helped us @this time😭😭😭😭
Advocate you should go an represent Muzi if you want to do good. The defense left a lot of straight forward questions they could have asked Gininda.
It's so true what you saying let him Advocate represent Sibiya ngoba he's been following the case and wazi konke ngalelicala.
😂😂😂 what are those questions?
Legal Aid South Africa owes the citizens an explanation on the following aspects:
1. Why did it refuse to pay the legal fees of the first accused when he was being represented by Adv Ngomezulu? may his soul rest in peace.
2. Why would it now be acceptable to it to fund legal fees of accused one when he would be represented by another lawyer now?
3. Why can the differentiation not be regarded as discrimination against the late adv Ngomezulu and accused one on account of the provision of legal aid to other co-accused in the same matter?
4. Why legal aid cannot be ordered by the public protector to reimburse accused one legal fees he paid vide his uncle to hire private counsel as the result of the discrimination ?
Stop following this case via social media. Mngomezulu was not paid by legal aid because he was brought by Ramosepele ONLY for the trial within a trial.
It was Muzi who fired Ramosepele and his uncle opted him to be represented by a private lawyer.
Give Tefo bit a break to be with his family & to recover from his long imprisonment. Try to catch him first week in Jan. May not be in the mood to be entertaining any legal matters right now. Needs time to recover. Must give all his attention to his family first. Then address south Africans if he wants to
Man needs to be well first
Teffo is no longer an advocate.
Judge Ratha is unfair i started viewing him as a posted person in this case to sentence the wrongful accused people on this matter,after he took confession statement from Ntanzi as admissable.From the to me it raise serious Concerns
At least Advocate Nxumalo tried insisting that Friday was too short . Thank you, Advocate for raising this issue so sharply. We hope it won't fall into deaf eyes.
Good morning advocate have a blessed day🙏🙏
Good morning advocate i was thinking maybe one of the advocate well help mozi Sibiya i was thinking the defence lawyers one of them can help for muzi Sibiya ❤
The judge has demonstrated lots of breach of confidentiality. This matter of sibiya s lawer and that he has to discuss with his family. How much time he needs. This was not supposed to be discussed public they do have Chambers to discuss matters like this. Also how a judge can expect sibiya to have full mental capacity to take wise decisions at this period of time few hours after his lawyer passed on. I suspect the judge himself lacks mental capacity due to old age related symptoms. He didn't show any remose. Completely unprofessional and disgrace
They just bring back TT Thobane...he gave the previous judge a hard time and think that he won't be intimidated by Gininda...The God that we pray to will not leave Muzi.He is watching over him and will give him strength.
Morning Advocate to me judge rush things besides 20th Jan they will meet on the 8th Jan discuss about Muzi they must come all of them
Morning Advocate uRatha akapphume kule case uchemile
Nonsense nje loyo Mkhulu osile
Thank you advocate
Good morning my Advocate. South African justice system is a serious circus. Judge Ratha was even making jokes about it, telling lawyers, "I won't be present watching soccer in EPL blaa blaa blaaa". True those defence lawyers in court sometimes behave amateurish. Even though I sometimes trust the 4 defence, Adv Teffo once warned us about the 4 lawyers of being coerced by the state to present weak defence so they can be found guilty.
If Muzi Sibiya was a foreigner the SAHRC would have gone to court for him the defend his right to choose. Justice cannot be done if the custodians of justice are rotten.
You can sometimes think that the Legal Aid is a private entity, by the way it is run.
Judge ratha is making sure he used any opportunity he gets to frustrate the poor accused and the defenders. This man he never showed sympathy to them where he seems is showing sympathy you must there is a trap for them
Judje Ratha have no mercy at all😮😮 8:25
Morning Advocate.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Legal Aid they are not fair and they part of the problem…. Why can’t he choose a lawyer of his choice…
I only wish that Muzi appoints a new lawyer, not any of the 4, especially Ramosepele. Rams failed to tear the confession apart.
I really doubt if this s is a proper judge....proper human being...this person they are protecting must be a king or god of some sort....so many people have been unalived since Senzo died!!!!!!
Friday was too early Sibiya Defence and all accussed needed time to morn for Mngomezulu 8th January is the correct date Nxumalo was correct 😢😮
you are just a talker Adv pliz
Uyaphapha manje, you are doing small witchcraft, leave Adv alone. You are probably one of those who have messed our justice system. Don't start
And us ad self proclaimed legal experts, we are stupid or crazy for using common sense 😢... everyone that believes the state in this case has an agenda, stroes
Morning Advocate so true
Ratha God is watching you
I am tired of all the people talking. Please can something be done
I said long time ago that we talk and do nothing. I am far but I am ready to contribute financially. I SHARE YOUR SENTIMENTS!!😢😢
And I dont believe we have a guns blazing defense team. They too quite amateurish at the best of times. I suppose they need to be gainfully employed by legal aid for as long as possible. Hardly anybody in SA has ever heard of this lot before the senzo trial.
Wat action plan do you have advocate. The information u giving us we know it. U seem to be very concerned but also u seem not to have a plan. Words without action is just like water in sand
It was clear before mngomezulu passing that muzis uncle couldn't afford to pay mngomezulu thats why he was alway absent in court, so he should have decided long time. How long time does he need?
'legal' rape.how is it legal
Advocate as you have said that Muzi sibiya needs time to apply to legal aid bord and is not being gifen time why dont you take upon yourself and repressent him yourself as a good samaritan
Adv you could not visit Teffo in jail but you run your mouth about his confession from Longer ,now his out you couldn't even get hold of him Teffo.. .now you talking about Sibiya you are just a big joke yourself...the legal aid board representative was in court on Wednesday pliz speer us woogwash...
Are you catching feelings, is Gininda your boyfriend. Sorry leave Advocate alone n mind your own corruption.
People hate the truth.. they always expect to say what they like.. u are on point.. he's pushing his agenda this Advocate
The truth is painful we love you Advocate ❤❤❤
@@musagumede6105Volume plzzzz😂😂