It was great meeting you this evening, Rob. It takes incredible courage to confront corporate corruption head-on, to call out names, and to hold powerful individuals accountable, no matter the risks. What you are doing is not just brave - it's inspiring. You are a true patriot, someone who deeply loves this country and is willing to fight for what's right. Respect!
What is he doing that is so wonderful by merely parroting what us already in the public domain. He has been quiet all these years with price fixing, collusion, currency manipulation etc. He is just doing damage control
I Deal with many Japanese customers here in Australia. OMG they are very honourable and Particular in business. They must be exceptionally disappointed that these culprits did them dirt . They have done the right thing by not letting them off the hook. Go to jail go directly to jail do not collect $200.00 .
Cancel Minimum wage are you off your head,South Africans wouldn't be able to afford basics,the rich will get richer and the poor will suffer even more,working 3 jobs to pay a mortgage,that is crazy
@johnlighton7025 pitty you can critisice but can't tell me what the rite spelling is. For someone like me, brought up in Afrikaans, I dont think Iam doing to badly. And C An s sounds the same anyway.
Corruption is just everywhere, phala phala, guptas, vbs, stainhoff, absa ,etc etc it’s just too tiring when the law it’s just the law without persecution…
I wonder when "someone" will have more than a tertiary glance at some of the dealings done by Multichoice senior executives and top management, particularly regarding international content televising rights (especially sports) and major international technology acquisitions.
Siyabonga Rob! 👏 Refreshing to not hearing Ramaphosa hate spewing from you. Sadly I can bet you 90% of SA corporate are corrupt while fingers are pointing 👉 at the GOVT
Even if you're right - nobody in the government gets charged. Zondo report, evidence on the R50B uprising, VBS, arms deal, SOE corruption, Phala-Phala gate - Trillions. Which dirty politician is sitting in jail?
Unless you're a shareholder of Steinhoff or DD or any SA corporate, it doesn't impact you. However, having taxes looted from South African citizens impacts everyone. Taxpayers are entitled to point finger at GOVT self-enrichers at their expense. Taxes aren't contributed to benefit a few corrupt elitists, it's there to benefit the country as a whole.
I have never been against Capitalism, however, I made it clear that "GREED" in capitalistic behaviour is what makes capitalism destructive... Bad character practicing Capitalism, breeds results like this...
Capitalism works - extortion by capitalists is the evil. South Africa bye and large is an extortionists society governed by a ruthless extortionist ANC and it's associates.
Greed happens irrespective of political persuasion. Capitalism has checks and balances to manage it however one party communist states steal with impunity. There is no perfect system.
@@richardgrant2077 Agree. The topic here is reflecting on capitalism... We are so used to exposing the left and other spectrums for such fraudulent activities, it's hard for capitalist to see them part of this evil called greed which are the motivation for the behaviour of capitalists with bad character and agendas...
Gud day Mr Hersov! Im an ordinary citizen of this country an i enjoy listening to your interviews on BN, cause you call a spade a spade. My plea to you is is there any chance tht you an some of your frnds can back Gayton in his party an take this country from these ppl tht is seling out our beloved country to foreign countries like iran ect, cse the way things look now in this country i see no future for myslf an my fellow s.afrcns, wht is so hard for me is my grandson 13yrs told me grndpa i dont wnna stay in this country anymore cse thres lots of shooting an killing whre he stay, an i told him i cnt do anythng cse our gov is not doing anythng abt it, an it mkes me worry wht am i gnna do if my grndson end up dead 1 day, i will never fogve myslf fo not doing anythng to wht he told me, i told his mum an dad an askd them not to buy anythng from spaza shop whtsoever, an they musnt let him buy too, it breaks my heart to see wht our president is doing to our nation an i hope madiba rest in peace cause they trample on wht his vision was for our nation, 😩😩😩 i hope you see my msg an give it a serious thought, i thank you sir may God bless you for all yo blessing to s.afrcns🙏🙏🙏💚💚💚💚💚💚
@robhersov2486 God bless you Mr Hersov may you go from strength to strength in what you do in life an with Mr McKenzie an s.african citizens, 🙏🙏🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪💪💪💥💥💥💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
I get the impression that directors are accustomed to plundering as they direct - and not just in South Africa. Suddenly having to deal with shareholders that pay attention seems to be hard.
I have had many dealings with DD in the telecomms environment as a rival service provider . Their dealings has always been underhanded, unethical and plainly criminal. Have always thought of DD as a bunch of crooks , this just cemented the notion .
Just because a company in a capitalist environment errs, you cannot say capitalism is bad. Just as you cannot judge Christianity it's followers. In the same way you cannot judge capitalism by it's followers.😮
Are there any honest people in business and how can you trust anyone anymore. We are living in very sad ,disappointing, disillusioning times. I am very old and remember when we said a man’s word is his honor.😰
Steinhoff wasn't that sophisticated. You just needed to understand retail and retail procurement. And not believe things that are too good to be true just because the CEO said so.
surely people do due diligence before purchasing a business - with audited financials provided - especially at that price - although you mention such a low price according to property value???
Good point, it comes to something basic between a lawyer and a CA(SA) that has past "The old school" part 2 Auditing and has kept up with Corporate Governance evolution through work CPD and on other ways. The test is surely go to the property and walk through it. Art is a very indication of possible fraud and irregulation. You learn that in your Audting 202 and getting you CTA and in Articles you are sent out to walk the premised. If you are young you request a specialist. If you an old dog it's like breathing.
That is not true. There were 4 gents that started Dimension Data and Jeremy Ord was not one of them. He was an olivetti salesman and was employed into a sales position.. ask Wayne and Roger Reece. And Vernon Sievers. They were 3 of the original founders.
I have to ask what was the point of King I, II, III and IV etc…as it would seem that the majority of captains of industry were either sleeping or mind dead when it came to ethics…Rules never apply to people with lack of ethics…how they manage to justify these actions to themselves, is mind blowing…
Same old story - Greed. So few humans can be successful quietly, keep their ego’s in check, and live a happy life not looking over their shoulders. They always want more, more, more… Learn from this people.
Sad that in SA corruption is a culture and is everywhere whether in private or public sector. Maybe this will humble many to realize that greed will catch up with you and here…not after you die…
These accounting and Law firms are a disgrace. This being one instance, but cast your mind back to how complicit they all were in the myriad of findings by the State capture commission. Criminals the lot !!!
Capitalists steal money too. Just because you are this or that does not mean that you are immune to temptation. Ultimately is it a game of 1) can I do it / have an opportunity to do it , 2) will I be found out and 3) will I be punished
Thank you..BEE aside, wow, as a Capitalist advocatiing for laissez-faire markets & no Government regulations...Government here as the protector of private property should look after our Japanese investors...
I have worked under Saki and he is definitely not smart. In my opinion, he is the best candidate to make "squeel" against the other 5. That's the guy you squeeze
I suspect as the case unfolds we will see evidence of an investment culture whose only moral imperative is to never get caught. Had the Japanese played the game it would have been business as usual.
Conflict of interest is well entrenched in our law. People should never get away with this. This is not a general tendency amongst South Africans as is being inter alia portrayed by Rob Hersov.
Please explain why once a credit card payment is delayed person must pay double the amount once inquiry took place they were told it's the policy of the bank that's fraudulent Please help poor South African's they have no job's still struggling to make a payment explain Please?
These people are just a plain and simply put common criminals (cannot buy class or character) and a total embarrassment who like so many others just widened the divide in our country.
White South Africans often blame “Them” for unethical behavior. However, the same level of unethical behavior is often extant in those who claim others behave that way.
Isn't it funny how according to Rob, Johan Rupert would've sat and thought that these boys were being naughty. Ya nee it's tough, just wondering if they happened to be that other colour they would've been thought of as being naughty or corrupt like the rest of them.
There must be a hybrid model between “free market” and “social responsibility” right?! Because the extreme of each side DOES NOT WORK! But somehow no one ever explores or talks about that possibility, and instead it’s all mudslinging and finger pointing 🤦🏽♂️
The comments this evening leave a lot to be desired. But thats up for debate. I was going to join a bebating team once. But someone talked me out of it.
Yes law firms are working to gether taking money and do not work for their clients working agains the client that is right and the people that us wrong get them out if jail saying they have case against the state
The charismatic and all businessman comes down to his Administrive support. Which on that level is a CA(SA) as acountant. His Adinistrato, the A in MBA stands for something and that is what CAs do. We assist the Businessman in "Capitalism" comes to something basicly different between a lawyer and a CA(SA) that has past "The old school" part 2 Auditing and has kept up with Corporate Governance evolution through work CPD and on other ways. The test is surely go to the property and walk through it. Art is a very indication of possible fraud and irregulation. You learn that in your Audting 202 and getting you CTA and in Articles you are sent out to walk the premised. If you are young you request a specialist. If you an old dog it's like breathing.
You people always trying to look for clever excuses for your kinds wrongdoing.. Now he's blaming beee😂😂😂 a criminal is a criminal, whether rich or not.. Yall blatantly call zama zamas criminals and don't blame poverty on their deeds.. But things will never change, will they?
Capitalism works - extortion by capitalists is the evil be they white or black. South Africa bye and large is an extortionists society governed by a ruthless extortionist ANC and it's associates. Patrice Motsepe and Anton Rupert are in the same extortionist camp. Thank God, these peoples are going to be exposed in the New South Africa gathering momentum.
@Brians_view perhaps an idiot like you can ask these idiots to send you the recording of when he said exactly that on this show but why would I expect anything different from you since you and ilk are strangers to the truth. Run along now Verwoerdian
Rob Hersov confirmed to be involved in bribing the former deputy president. Is that not corruption? And is that not a crime in SA. If you tell the world that you we involved bribing someone to buy the ANC conference in favor of Ramapolony. Then you start behaving like an angel. Hhayi kudlalwa ngatsi in SA.
It is common in fraud to attack the whistle-blower, like Rob, although in a prevelige position, he still sticks his head out that he really does not have to. The study of Fraud in South Africa and WotldWide will confirm my comment. Read Mandy Weaner's - The Whistle-blowers
Rob is always giving a plain explanation that everyone can understand. Keep him on the show
It's his show anyway
It was great meeting you this evening, Rob. It takes incredible courage to confront corporate corruption head-on, to call out names, and to hold powerful individuals accountable, no matter the risks. What you are doing is not just brave - it's inspiring. You are a true patriot, someone who deeply loves this country and is willing to fight for what's right. Respect!
What is he doing that is so wonderful by merely parroting what us already in the public domain. He has been quiet all these years with price fixing, collusion, currency manipulation etc. He is just doing damage control
I Deal with many Japanese customers here in Australia. OMG they are very honourable and Particular in business.
They must be exceptionally disappointed that these culprits did them dirt .
They have done the right thing by not letting them off the hook.
Go to jail go directly to jail do not collect $200.00 .
Cancel BEE and Minimum wage and the economy will grow.
Cancel Minimum wage are you off your head,South Africans wouldn't be able to afford basics,the rich will get richer and the poor will suffer even more,working 3 jobs to pay a mortgage,that is crazy
Moeletsi Mbeki already said in the early 2000s that BEE is not the correct concept and instead entreperneurship should be taught and neutured.
Neutered or nourished?
You 2 gentlemen are so interesting, thanku
They treated staff like rubbish. Karma is a bitch but she gets even. Hope they go to jail.
Sertain? That's not a word. Not even close.
The wheel is round.... Very round 😮
@johnlighton7025 pitty you can critisice but can't tell me what the rite spelling is. For someone like me, brought up in Afrikaans, I dont think Iam doing to badly. And C An s sounds the same anyway.
Ok sorry man. I hope you have a good evening. All the best. @@esthergreenwood4019
@@esthergreenwood4019English is a difficult language to spell… unfortunately there’s always that one, who has to make an unhelpful comment.
Corruption is just everywhere, phala phala, guptas, vbs, stainhoff, absa ,etc etc it’s just too tiring when the law it’s just the law without persecution…
The country's people are rotten to the core. There is nothing that isn't tainted. A country of thieves and criminals. Tragic.
I wonder when "someone" will have more than a tertiary glance at some of the dealings done by Multichoice senior executives and top management, particularly regarding international content televising rights (especially sports) and major international technology acquisitions.
This!
Tip of an ice bag, corporate SA is doing worse
Agreed
BEE and AA must go
THIVES
is this after you benefitted from it, white privilege must go!
No. U just don't want to deal with black people.
Power corrupts, whether in the public or the private sector. Here's to a decentralised future.
Power , sex and money corrupts. But you and I will have to put ourselves in that position. Would we do the same?
I agree with Rob about the lawyers. How didn’t they know??
When is greed enough?
Siyabonga Rob! 👏 Refreshing to not hearing Ramaphosa hate spewing from you. Sadly I can bet you 90% of SA corporate are corrupt while fingers are pointing 👉 at the GOVT
Government is inclusive of the overall pointing at.
Even if you're right - nobody in the government gets charged. Zondo report, evidence on the R50B uprising, VBS, arms deal, SOE corruption, Phala-Phala gate - Trillions. Which dirty politician is sitting in jail?
Yup it takes 2 to tango…..in most cases ,it’s just that pvt sector is more sofisticated carrying out its corruption !!!!
Unless you're a shareholder of Steinhoff or DD or any SA corporate, it doesn't impact you. However, having taxes looted from South African citizens impacts everyone. Taxpayers are entitled to point finger at GOVT self-enrichers at their expense. Taxes aren't contributed to benefit a few corrupt elitists, it's there to benefit the country as a whole.
Government has created a cesspool
I have never been against Capitalism, however, I made it clear that "GREED" in capitalistic behaviour is what makes capitalism destructive...
Bad character practicing Capitalism, breeds results like this...
Capitalism works - extortion by capitalists is the evil.
South Africa bye and large is an extortionists society governed by a ruthless extortionist ANC and it's associates.
Greed happens irrespective of political persuasion. Capitalism has checks and balances to manage it however one party communist states steal with impunity. There is no perfect system.
Why have a go at Capitalism?
Human greed is right across the spectrum and perhaps worse amongst the far Left.
Corruption is a human failing.
@@richardgrant2077 Agree. The topic here is reflecting on capitalism... We are so used to exposing the left and other spectrums for such fraudulent activities, it's hard for capitalist to see them part of this evil called greed which are the motivation for the behaviour of capitalists with bad character and agendas...
Greed is not a trait of any system, but of humans. There is just as much greed and corruption in socialist countries.
Not surprised at all.. DD is like that neighbour you'd never lend anything to.
What a disgrace 😢
When I lived in SA, DI-Data was one company I wanted to work for!!! Thank F I didn't now!
When your mouth is full, stuff some more food in. Such a disgrace.
Greed doesn't know capitalism, communism, fascism, tribalism, socialism, etc etc. This sounds like a human problem.
South’s Africans are corrupt as a society !
Let's hope this is just the beginning of more corrupt people to be brought to book, greedy lot, will they sit ....... 15yrs schedule 5
Jooste could have been stopped in 2010, good men being paid sat back
good men?
@SpencerCourtis mostly family and church going men, weak white scared men, fearing to lose what they have, line towing sheep.
Lol if people start to dig deeper into some of these companies then the JSE will become a shell
100%. Some won't change
Just maybe the keynote for their indiscretions and wrongdoings were set by the gold std official license to loot, called bbbbbeeee?
Greed and fraud has no race, political affiliation or nationality.
Unlike murder
Very very sad. I worked at DD and knew most of these gents. Most were good guys. Very Very rich...So shocking!
Gents.... Then!!
Capitalism is not at fault, …. people are!!
Gud day Mr Hersov! Im an ordinary citizen of this country an i enjoy listening to your interviews on BN, cause you call a spade a spade. My plea to you is is there any chance tht you an some of your frnds can back Gayton in his party an take this country from these ppl tht is seling out our beloved country to foreign countries like iran ect, cse the way things look now in this country i see no future for myslf an my fellow s.afrcns, wht is so hard for me is my grandson 13yrs told me grndpa i dont wnna stay in this country anymore cse thres lots of shooting an killing whre he stay, an i told him i cnt do anythng cse our gov is not doing anythng abt it, an it mkes me worry wht am i gnna do if my grndson end up dead 1 day, i will never fogve myslf fo not doing anythng to wht he told me, i told his mum an dad an askd them not to buy anythng from spaza shop whtsoever, an they musnt let him buy too, it breaks my heart to see wht our president is doing to our nation an i hope madiba rest in peace cause they trample on wht his vision was for our nation, 😩😩😩 i hope you see my msg an give it a serious thought, i thank you sir may God bless you for all yo blessing to s.afrcns🙏🙏🙏💚💚💚💚💚💚
I am absolutely a backer of Gayton!
@robhersov2486 God bless you Mr Hersov may you go from strength to strength in what you do in life an with Mr McKenzie an s.african citizens, 🙏🙏🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪💪💪💥💥💥💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
@@reggvonschyfer4763 Thank yuo Reggie
Rob and Gayton, 😀, already laughing!! Rob has already offered him money to be in politics, gangsters of note if you ask me 😀
IT IS PEOPLE SUCH AS Gaynor that might hold the candle for a bright future --- ANYTHING but the ANC !!!!
I get the impression that directors are accustomed to plundering as they direct - and not just in South Africa. Suddenly having to deal with shareholders that pay attention seems to be hard.
I have had many dealings with DD in the telecomms environment as a rival service provider . Their dealings has always been underhanded, unethical and plainly criminal. Have always thought of DD as a bunch of crooks , this just cemented the notion .
So interesting. A leopard does not change its spots!!!!!
Just because a company in a capitalist environment errs, you cannot say capitalism is bad. Just as you cannot judge Christianity it's followers. In the same way you cannot judge capitalism by it's followers.😮
So are these 6 delinquent directors going to he declared delinquent and banned from being directors, or are they goingto prison ???
GREAT QUESTION..DRASTIC ACTION IS THE ONLY ANSWER. SET EXAMPLES.
Why do they call them protagonists? and refer to them as naughty?? They are fraudsters
Thank God, these peoples are going to be exposed in the New South Africa gathering momentum.
Greed ,how sad and stupid
Does anyone have a link to the judgement? Thanks.
www1.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPJHC/2024/1209.pdf
Gupta and Zuma walk around free. Come on, the hypocrisy is off the scale
Bringing white business people to account is now called hypocrisy 😮
Irrelevant whataboutism
Interesting, this matter is not allover the Prime News....
Frightening people who are worth billions attempting to get richer cannot believe this .
. . . & I was forced to sell my shares . . .
Are there any honest people in business and how can you trust anyone anymore. We are living in very sad ,disappointing, disillusioning times. I am very old and remember when we said a man’s word is his honor.😰
My concern is the impact this will have on future FDI - the genuine ones of course, not the "rape S.A." ones.
Steinhoff wasn't that sophisticated. You just needed to understand retail and retail procurement. And not believe things that are too good to be true just because the CEO said so.
“BEE makes people dishonest.” The statement of the day. What rubbish?…
the love of money makes people dishonest
BEE is dishonesty forced down everyone throats that ACTUALLY WANT to work
BEE AND AA must go
surely people do due diligence before purchasing a business - with audited financials provided - especially at that price - although you mention such a low price according to property value???
Good point, it comes to something basic between a lawyer and a CA(SA) that has past "The old school" part 2 Auditing and has kept up with Corporate Governance evolution through work CPD and on other ways.
The test is surely go to the property and walk through it. Art is a very indication of possible fraud and irregulation. You learn that in your Audting 202 and getting you CTA and in Articles you are sent out to walk the premised. If you are young you request a specialist. If you an old dog it's like breathing.
Reality check.. thanks💫
That is not true. There were 4 gents that started Dimension Data and Jeremy Ord was not one of them. He was an olivetti salesman and was employed into a sales position.. ask Wayne and Roger Reece. And Vernon Sievers. They were 3 of the original founders.
Werner Sievers is his correct name.
There's never enough when pure greed is the motivation.
I have to ask what was the point of King I, II, III and IV etc…as it would seem that the majority of captains of industry were either sleeping or mind dead when it came to ethics…Rules never apply to people with lack of ethics…how they manage to justify these actions to themselves, is mind blowing…
Same old story - Greed. So few humans can be successful quietly, keep their ego’s in check, and live a happy life not looking over their shoulders. They always want more, more, more… Learn from this people.
Sad that in SA corruption is a culture and is everywhere whether in private or public sector. Maybe this will humble many to realize that greed will catch up with you and here…not after you die…
These accounting and Law firms are a disgrace. This being one instance, but cast your mind back to how complicit they all were in the myriad of findings by the State capture commission. Criminals the lot !!!
No surprises here. This kind of stuff is happening everyday in corporate SA. And yes. BEE is rubbish
Capitalists steal money too. Just because you are this or that does not mean that you are immune to temptation. Ultimately is it a game of 1) can I do it / have an opportunity to do it , 2) will I be found out and 3) will I be punished
Thank you..BEE aside, wow, as a Capitalist advocatiing for laissez-faire markets & no Government regulations...Government here as the protector of private property should look after our Japanese investors...
It originally cost R2B to build the Campus back in the day!
I want to open a case of fraud in free state province but nothing I can do I'm nothing nothing to say
I have worked under Saki and he is definitely not smart. In my opinion, he is the best candidate to make "squeel" against the other 5. That's the guy you squeeze
Beautiful work
Great work
🙏🙏🙏
I suspect as the case unfolds we will see evidence of an investment culture whose only moral imperative is to never get caught. Had the Japanese played the game it would have been business as usual.
How about looking at the banks and their inflating the value of properties in order to charge a higher premium.
Conflict of interest is well entrenched in our law. People should never get away with this. This is not a general tendency amongst South Africans as is being inter alia portrayed by Rob Hersov.
Please explain why once a credit card payment is delayed person must pay double the amount once inquiry took place they were told it's the policy of the bank that's fraudulent Please help poor South African's they have no job's still struggling to make a payment explain Please?
Get Zuma's lawyers involved...none of you will ever serve time !! Follow the leader ? 🤔
How is this abuse of BEE? Aren't these the sort of "opportunities" BEE was supposed to create?
A case of lack of ethics.
Ethics?
More like a straight up crime
The greed never stops especially by those who do know better but don't care, just history repeating itself ad nauseum. The majority suffer in silence.
BBBEE is a proclamation not a law which is why it only benefits certain individuals and ignoring the general public.
Werksmans even for me, immediately from first engagement, realized what a joke...😬
I also had a bad experience with them
Maybe Webber can reflect on their part in helping Alexkor rip off its diamond divers?
These people are just a plain and simply put common criminals (cannot buy class or character) and a total embarrassment who like so many others just widened the divide in our country.
Despicable criminals
White South Africans often blame “Them” for unethical behavior. However, the same level of unethical behavior is often extant in those who claim others behave that way.
And we dare to critisize the SOE's draining funds.
Isn't it funny how according to Rob, Johan Rupert would've sat and thought that these boys were being naughty. Ya nee it's tough, just wondering if they happened to be that other colour they would've been thought of as being naughty or corrupt like the rest of them.
I wrote a crime novel called Killing Alexkor, it got onto the Zondo best seller list.
There must be a hybrid model between “free market” and “social responsibility” right?! Because the extreme of each side DOES NOT WORK! But somehow no one ever explores or talks about that possibility, and instead it’s all mudslinging and finger pointing 🤦🏽♂️
18minute mark Alec is referring to Andile Ngcaba.
The comments this evening leave a lot to be desired. But thats up for debate. I was going to join a bebating team once. But someone talked me out of it.
DD did that with private money, not with my tax money, I just can't feel that angry
But they stole from the shareholders who are very angry!
It was Andile Ngcaba
Yes law firms are working to gether taking money and do not work for their clients working agains the client that is right and the people that us wrong get them out if jail saying they have case against the state
Why do they own an art collection ? Aren’t they an IT company ?
Tax evation
@@MrMahemrsart is not tax deductible. They bought it for the company, supporting local artists as part of their CSR.
I told Sally Hutton at WW that Alexkor were dirty and ripping the Alexander Bay community off, but she put her manicured fingers in her ears.s
Werksmans enjoys working for types like Steinhoff...
The charismatic and all businessman comes down to his Administrive support. Which on that level is a CA(SA) as acountant. His Adinistrato, the A in MBA stands for something and that is what CAs do. We assist the Businessman in "Capitalism" comes to something basicly different between a lawyer and a CA(SA) that has past "The old school" part 2 Auditing and has kept up with Corporate Governance evolution through work CPD and on other ways.
The test is surely go to the property and walk through it. Art is a very indication of possible fraud and irregulation. You learn that in your Audting 202 and getting you CTA and in Articles you are sent out to walk the premised. If you are young you request a specialist. If you an old dog it's like breathing.
You people always trying to look for clever excuses for your kinds wrongdoing.. Now he's blaming beee😂😂😂 a criminal is a criminal, whether rich or not.. Yall blatantly call zama zamas criminals and don't blame poverty on their deeds.. But things will never change, will they?
Capitalism works - extortion by capitalists is the evil be they white or black.
South Africa bye and large is an extortionists society governed by a ruthless extortionist ANC and it's associates. Patrice Motsepe and Anton Rupert are in the same extortionist camp.
Thank God, these peoples are going to be exposed in the New South Africa gathering momentum.
When is enough money enough?
when you have it all. Then you start to print your own.
They did exactly what Rob Hersov tried to do offering Gayton R200m not to contest elections in WC as PA
Did you learn that on TH-cam by any chance or one of your friends tell you. GAYTON MCKENZIE is not worth 200 million.
@Brians_view perhaps an idiot like you can ask these idiots to send you the recording of when he said exactly that on this show but why would I expect anything different from you since you and ilk are strangers to the truth. Run along now Verwoerdian
@@Brians_viewdid you read?
@@tshepo7122 can't you complete a sentence
Even a broken clock is correct two times a day 🙄
Just love the way you call a spade a spade. 😊 If it walks like a duck... Talks like a duck... Sounds like a duck.... 😅
Quite telling that you both will talk as though the court judgement is some newspaper article.
Regarding Markus Jooste. Ways one …. BS baffles brains.
This is the second time I've heard Webber Wentzel associated in some way with serious skulduggery.
Is this Nathan related to Daniel Nathan?
Rob Hersov confirmed to be involved in bribing the former deputy president. Is that not corruption? And is that not a crime in SA.
If you tell the world that you we involved bribing someone to buy the ANC conference in favor of Ramapolony. Then you start behaving like an angel. Hhayi kudlalwa ngatsi in SA.
Ramadollar not Ramapolony😂
It is common in fraud to attack the whistle-blower, like Rob, although in a prevelige position, he still sticks his head out that he really does not have to. The study of Fraud in South Africa and WotldWide will confirm my comment. Read Mandy Weaner's - The Whistle-blowers
Zimbo bot😂😂😂
@@sizwemeyer6076Ramaphosisa
Capitalist Activist?
These are sophisticated people 😂