It's actually modelled after it, especially since military experts and eggheads during WW2 looked to Medieval Armour of Inspiration. M1 is in modelled after many medieval Helmets like the Sallet and Basicnet.
Some units of gsg9 even use maille under their plate carriers since a huge uptick in knife attacks warranted armor better suited to withstand blades attacks against your extremities.
@@gurthus9540 No, that's not how this works. Remember they were wearing a padded garment underneath, which was made up of dozens of layers of cloth stitched together. That's what really matters when it comes to how hot it gets in armor. It's like wearing a winter jacket. The mail on top is pretty much irrelevant. But like shima luan says, in Europe (at least northern Europe), it's not very common for temperatures to go above 80 degrees. It will be hot in armor, but not unbearable, particularly if you're used to it. Though if I remember correctly, this was a real problem for the crusaders when they got into the middle east. For obvious reasons.
Godd opposite. It sucked up heat, meaning there was no way for your body heat to escape. Heat strokes remain a common killer throughout the high medieval ages
This is such a great way of immersing into the era. I've been watching other channels which go into the strategy of famous battles. And these types of videos on a more individual level really help immensely to imagine and understand what that must have been like! What they wore, how they lived. The TH-cam historical community is so insanely in depth. It's mind boggling how much you can learn. There's channels that go into every detail imaginable. Even down to what a knight or a peasant would have eaten during this era!!
If you want to know what wearing armour feels like, I suggest you look for an armored combat team near you! They even fight with each other. It's a blast!
Gentlemen of these days rely too much on the use of gun powder smh 🤦♂️🤦♂️, what shal you do when the enemy is at a range where you have not enough time to reloadyou fire arm? Ay, gone are the days where a good battle was fought face to face with a good pole arm 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😔😔😔😔
What's funny is this "coat of plates" is essentially the ancestor to the modern plate carrier. You have a cloth vest with padding that you insert ballistic plates into to cover the vital areas. It's funny how some concepts are completely timeless.
The video says so itself, as weapons improve, so must the armor. Modern guns are a vast improvement over projectile weapons, and modern ballistic plates are a vast improvement over simple metal plates
@@CoolAndrew89our armor is better against our weapons but a modern ballistic vest wouldnt do much against a crossbow or spear point, there are videos on youtube to prove this, and by the same token this steel armor is useless against modern firearms however both sets of armor preform adequately against the weapons they were designed to counter
Medic83 I've seen videos of people in plate being fairly nimble, I'd think with practice you could pick up a goodmspeed for short bursts. Might be tiring, but remember rule #1 from Zombieland: Cardio. This muight be good for confrontation, and you would probably only go through putting on this armor if you planned on crushing skulls, not just running.
Depending on the period of the armor and how heavy you decided to go, the only thing that would be near impossible is swimming, but even that depends on the specific armor and how much you train with it. Outside of swimming, medieval armor of any type would be the ultimate protection in a zombie scenario, but only against zombies. Other people with firearms still exist and neither plate or chain will stop a bullet. Even if you got surrounded and dragged down, you'd likely die from thirst before any zombies managed to get through the armor. x3
St. Gideon or crushed by their weight/ suffocation (by being overwhelmed, you can last more if not, but you need to breath from time to time, which is the reason for visors to exist.
Wabaanimkii A Buckler as a shield and a one-handed sword to wield. Spears were common in formations too. They would wear the nail shirt as well but the plate vest wouldn't always be attached on the infantryman. The helmet probably would not cover the whole head and armor wouldn't have as many parts responsible for regulating the weight. Their armor was lighter than the ones from the knights.
no fucking way TV level production but with correct terminology, historical accuracy/authenticity and no dramatized bullshit and with only 4500 subscribers
@@sixeros4435 Pants have been around since before Roman times, while they weren't in fashion in the 13th century, they very much did exist, and had been existing for over a thousand years.
Me: Squire, don mine armours upon my body so i may go to battle and slay many ppls. Squire puts armours on. Me: Squire, it is mid of night, remove mine armours so that i may sleep now.
the creators: i feel like im forgetting something... the 11th, 13th, and 14th centuries: if you forgot then it probably wasnt important creators: yea youre right 12th century: *sad*
I think it's because of the overlap of armor usage (11th century armor are still in use up to mid 12th century and this style of armor already around in late 12th century, instead of doing something similar twice, the production team choose to skip 12th century armor. The same could be said to the 14th and 15th century armor. Many 14th century armor are still widespread in early 15th century, so to give a better distinction the production team choose to skip the early 15th century armor and proceed with mid to late 15th century armor.
More specifically, mid-13th century knight, perhaps men-at-arms. The 13th century is a dividing line, when already not only knights (nobles) could afford such a equipment (like this in the video), but anyone who could afford it! They were called men-at-arms, who could come from almost any social class (not only nobles!).
That coat of plates looks more like Early 14th century designs. It's very similar to examples excavated from the site of the Battle of Visby in 1361. 13th century coats of plates were generally simpler, and were often integrated into the surcoat.
Been waiting for Bannerlord for about 35 years now... Still no sign, but warband is still awesome. Wish they could let you create your own faction in With fire and sword too
The mail coif should be linked to the hauberk. If not, it should have a square section, not round. Mail coifs such as the one of the video appeared in the 14th century. Btw, music from Las Cantigas de Santa Maria, 13th century Castilia.
The mail that protect the neck in my opinion is basically useless, if someone were to jab at you with a sword sure it would stop it from cutting you but it wont stop the force and impact, crushing your trachea and suffocating your death.
@@orangutank626 A good blow yeah but what if the the opponent did a half-ass job and the angle wasn't good? The armor could deflect it and encourage the force to transfer elsewhere so that your neck does not have to tank the damage.
@@CahzinarX Yep. Neck mail is not there to stop a determined, accurate blow. It is there to keep you alive when a sharp blade just happens to flick over your neck. An incidental cut like that on your abdomen, arm or leg will only leave a slightly bleeding gash (unless stopped by armour, of course).. A 1/2 inch deep cut to the abdomen or shoulder hurts like heck, but does not incapacitate the fighter and won't kill him if treated anytime soon. (barring infections) But a 1/2 inch deep cut to the neck severs tendons or worse, cuts your jugular. Either is at least incapacitating, very likely lethal! But even *slight* armor would prevent this sort of blow from striking through.
Mail is a lot tougher than you might think. In this video, it seems like they are using "cosplay" mail, or butted mail, which means the rings are cut, and bent together into shape. At this time, they would be using rivetted mail, which had rivets at interlocks. Very solid construction. Not even arrows from longbows can reliably pierce it.
There was a padded lining on the inside that doubled as a suspension, kind of like the pads you'd velcro inside a modern kevlar helmet. If you had the helmet made just for you, the lining would have been the perfect thickness to keep the helmet in place by friction.
it's more for display. sadly padding doesn't survive often of the centuries. but I have seen tournament helmet padding in a museum, it will be tight fit.
helmets were very heavy and made so that you could easily get it back in proper position. besides moving a bit was good way since it would absorb more energy from hits
It will also leave you blind at the moment an opponent has landed a blow to your head. With such narrow eye slits, a slight shift leaves you gazing out a tiny window pointing left, rather than straight ahead. A mobile helm was a liability.
If fighting another knight, he would need to watch out for a dagger being thrust into one of his eyes. The eyes, the throat, armpits, and the crotch were all good areas to attack. Even with the helmet, there were special daggers that were made to be able to slip through the eye slots.
It does annoy me your almost there but still quite a few misconceptions. That bloody schwiiing!... sheathes are made of wood and leather... it sounds clunky and smooth.
You aren't alone. The cliche sound of metal on metal when unsheathing a sword is such an egregious detail in a video that seems to aim to educate the masses about historically accurate armouring of men-at-arms. It is not as if this is a video made by an individual with no credentials presented. This is a video made by the Royal Armouries. Greater attention to detail should be expected and pandering to the masses with instances of dramatic flair, no matter how brief, doesn't belong in what is clearly educational content.
I'm with ya, fortunately we do have a few people like Shadiversity and Skallagrim giving us more historically accurate and practical insights into weapons and armaments! ^_^
Since people are still replying to this, did it not occur to anybody that the *SCHHING* noise was a result of the sword scraping against the mail mitten on his left hand? No? Just me? Ok...
It's a good video but some things are wrong. The chances of arrows or sword thrusts posing a threat to maille with padding is very, very unlikely unless it's a thrust from horseback or an arrow fired by a Welsh longbow of the period. Arrows are typically so ineffectual against maille of the period, especially those short compound bows used by horse archers like Turcapoles, that knights would literally use their bodies to shield civilians in one battle as arrows ineffectively either bounced off or lightly embedded themselves in the armor and got stuck in the links, causing them to look like Urchins. Also that coat of plate looks an awful lot like one from the 14th century, not the 13th century. There also may/should be some padding over the maille as well, at least I know the Spaniards wore it- a perpunte.
Wyatt Wilmot the one that is used in the 14th century is a brigandine a brigandine has more smaller plates and the coat of plates have bigger plates you can see the difference very good at the battle of visby there you see the coat of plates
No. 15th century used brigandine. Large plates were used up until technology afforded the use of a full cuirass. Up until the full cuirass comes to be at the end of the 14th century. Plates in 14th century coats of plate are long, thick, and often have a half-cuirass strapped together.
Hence why he said "could". I'm not an expert on the subject but there are probably a whole lot of weapons designed to counter maille such as war hammers. Still, as you said, it's unlikely.
While compound bows may have been no consequence to mail armor, longbows and crossbows were a significant threat to any mail-clad knight. Some accounts made by English knights say that arrows or bolts from the longbow and crossbow respectively could pierce their upper thigh and the mount underneath at 100 yards, pinning the knight to his horse. Lol.
@@djs2834 Lol you add as if that is not a highly horrific and painful thing for both knight and horse. But yea, crossbows and longbows were a pain in the arse. Back. Chest. Wherever they hit. Especially with the "pile" arrows, who were pretty good at punching through platemail. And then there is the added fun, if you survive, of getting those bastards out of you. Whoever invented bows was a right arse, but boy did they know what they were doing.
So wonderful, I simply love the 13th-century looks. I'm just making my own haubergeon (butted for now, so I can learn how to fit it for my body). Oh, I wish I could find a gambeson (or better someone who could sew it for me) that looks exactly like the one in the video.
Back in my day we would sail 1000 kilometres to raid a coastal village and then sail back another 1000 kilometres on the North Sea! You kids wouldn't survive long back in the 10th century!
4:35 Nice to see the foley guy is still finding work putting "schwing!" sounds in when the sword is drawn. Also, why is that silly man wearing a metal great helm over a metal coif? The helm will just swivel around every time he turns his head. 13th-century knights wore the arming cap in contact with the helm, often with a roll around the top to provide friction and keep the damn thing in place. Remember he had to expect to get hit on that, and the way it's shown here, one Ottoman slap will send it spinning like Daffy Duck's beak. And would it kill the Royal Armoury to tailor the haubergeon so it doesn't blouse like a Hefty bag at the man's armpits? Mail is supposed to be flush with the contours of the body, so it can grip all over and act as a second skin. The way it's done here, one blow from an ax will cut right the hell through it. Final bit of autism -- The aventail is usually depicted covering the mouth, right up to the mustache. That bit would also not be allowed to dangle like a turkey's wattle, since again a single slash would power through it like a brittle eggshell.
Claude Blair writes that there is no doubt Great Helms had internal padding of their own, which would have served to grip the mail and keep a tight fit - he has studied numerous examples which do have the remains of internal suspension and padding. Combined with the arming cap beneath the coif, the knight's head would have been very well cushioned and the helmet would have been securely fitted. Don't forget, Great Helms were often worn with a cervelliere (steel skullcap) beneath, and there are plenty of manuscripts which show knights removing their helms to reveal full mail coifs beneath as well. One blow from an axe will NOT cut right through mail - mail is effective whether its slack or taut, this has been proven. Nor will a slash "power through it like a brittle eggshell". If the effectiveness of mail was dependent entirely on it being tailor made, it would never have been sold as a completed shirt - as we know it in fact was. In any case, the "Bagging" effect seems to me to only be present when the mail is being put on - later in the video it looks quite tight.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Knights usually dress the grat helm over the mail coif! Above all english and french heavy cavalry, including every military order that points all his strenght on the cavalry charge, like Knight Templars, St. Lazzarus and Hospitallier.
There is so much wrong in this. 1. The mid thigh haubergeon were only popular for a couple of decades after which the just above knee length hauberk came back into usage. Throughout most of the 13th century knights would have worn a hauberk 2. The hauberk would have had an attached mail coif. Separate coifs with aventails are really more of a pre 13th century thing. Toward the end of the 13th century they started using separate aventails again but they were attached to bascinets. 3. They wore hidden steel skull caps between the padding and the mail over-which the great helm was worn. This is because the great helm was removed when not on horseback due to the extreme lack of visibility. Great helms are helmets that go over other helmets, just like great coats are coats that go over other coats. Towards the end of the 13th century they would have been worn over a full bascinet. Go look at a historical sample in person. They seem comically oversized. 4. Coats of plates are definitely late 13th century armor. Which is fine but it doesn't make a lot of sense to have top of the line chest protection for the the late 13th century while wearing old out of date head gear. Basically everything they show could have been seen in the 13th century but none of it goes together properly.
Being an owner of such a suit, you begin to sweat even at 40 fahrenheight in the winter but most soldiers didnt wear this only upper class knights and was mostly worn on horseback and or when really needed.
Quite alot. Knights and heavily armoured men would literally fall unconscious on the Battlefield from heat exhaustion. Crusaders however began to copy the Sara cans style of clothing and learnt to counter the effects of wearing armour in hot climates. Prolonged and drawn out battles were not good for knights if they were heavily involved in the fighting. But, they were generally unbelievablely fit, as fit as any professional athlete of today and they trained since they could walk to become a knight so they were very well prepared to fight in it.
Water helps a lot, in addition to over garments to prevent heat exhaustion. Besides, if a knight needs to leave for worry of heat exhaustion he usually can. He can just ride his horse out and come back after a drink. If he is fighting on foot he can signal a few other men to defend him while he goes back in the line and allow someone else to fight for a while, and switch back after he has cooled down.
The heat mostly stays with the metal, and doesn't contact the body. In addition, a white surcoat or other garment was often worn to help dissipate the sun's effect. In addition, Europe usually has pretty mild summers.
Some small problems...... Difficult if not impossible to put on or take off by oneself. Slashing the laces will make it easier to remove, but then the armour cannot be properly fitted again until the lacing is repaired. And don't fall in the water. Great video with real historic accuracy.
No, it is very possible to put this stuff on by yourself. Teutonic Penguin did a video of 13th century Teutonic armor, he has no problem putting it on. You could simply untie the laces, since the mittens had holes in the palm which you could stick your hand through for more dexterity. Falling in water was definitely a problem but most of the time fights didn't occur near water. This video also has some major problems, mostly butted maille (very, very weak compared to riveted, which is what they used in real life) and the undergarments are not very historical. But it captures the general idea of what a 13th century knight would look like pretty well.
@@jorgejohnson875 You're right. Its not as impossible as I said. There it is. It just takes more time and is a bit of a pain in the butt. What was I thinking. Mostly it was the later tournament armors that were very hard to put on/take off, and such armors were not for actual battlefield use. They were rich men's expensive toys. Thanks for the correction.
Where did you get the mail for the legs? Like these particular ones. Most of them are just hanging on a belt on your waist which makes them very uncomfortable. But these ones actually distribute the weight over the entire leg. Been looking for such mail for years now. And attempts to make it myself have all failed.
Geez I'm more Anglo-Saxon than Norman, and Norman armour was different. But still, these videos remind me of the things my ancestors had to do to themselves and each other to see me into the world at all.
We are the most fortunate people blessed living in from mid 20th century till present...hard to imagine ways of living in these dark ages...unfortunate ancestors of ours
2 centuries later this dude still hasnt aged a day
And he's still angry.
this is so witty LOL
lol
RhangDao hahahahahahahahaha
Can't wait to see him in WWII outfit.
It's amazing how similar that coat of plates is to a modern ballistic plate carrier.
mandaloin I honesty like the look of brigindine armor
It's actually modelled after it, especially since military experts and eggheads during WW2 looked to Medieval Armour of Inspiration. M1 is in modelled after many medieval Helmets like the Sallet and Basicnet.
Some units of gsg9 even use maille under their plate carriers since a huge uptick in knife attacks warranted armor better suited to withstand blades attacks against your extremities.
And modern day dragon scale ballistic armor is basically just a version of ancient scale armor.
mandaloin The human anatomy hasn't change so why would it be different?
My man just put on chain-mail thigh-highs.
That's why you gotta get yourself a big titty Visigoth GF
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@@zerogbot23 This....is what we need
This whole comment chain is just too good!
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this must have been delightful to wear when the temp went north of 90 degrees and humidity was high.
Pretty sure the mail sucked up the heat during the summer so it was pretty nice apparently, however in winter you would be freezing
@@gurthus9540 No, that's not how this works.
Remember they were wearing a padded garment underneath, which was made up of dozens of layers of cloth stitched together.
That's what really matters when it comes to how hot it gets in armor.
It's like wearing a winter jacket. The mail on top is pretty much irrelevant.
But like shima luan says, in Europe (at least northern Europe), it's not very common for temperatures to go above 80 degrees.
It will be hot in armor, but not unbearable, particularly if you're used to it.
Though if I remember correctly, this was a real problem for the crusaders when they got into the middle east.
For obvious reasons.
Godd opposite. It sucked up heat, meaning there was no way for your body heat to escape. Heat strokes remain a common killer throughout the high medieval ages
It wasn't unheard of for knights to die of exhaustion in their armour because their bodies couldn't get rid of the heat
Dying is much worse
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It's clearly closer to Christendom!
King Louis IV: "Why do I fight?"
Templar: "To defend the Kingdom"
King Louis IV: "No, this is not enough. I fight to defend Christendom."
and also he has thicc armour
And Constantinople..
@@AudioJeep Louis IX !
When you play CK2 and get the immortal trait.
This is such a great way of immersing into the era. I've been watching other channels which go into the strategy of famous battles. And these types of videos on a more individual level really help immensely to imagine and understand what that must have been like! What they wore, how they lived.
The TH-cam historical community is so insanely in depth. It's mind boggling how much you can learn. There's channels that go into every detail imaginable. Even down to what a knight or a peasant would have eaten during this era!!
If you want to know what wearing armour feels like, I suggest you look for an armored combat team near you! They even fight with each other. It's a blast!
Only 13th century kids will remember this 👌🔥
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A big fucking sword
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Gentlemen of these days rely too much on the use of gun powder smh 🤦♂️🤦♂️, what shal you do when the enemy is at a range where you have not enough time to reloadyou fire arm? Ay, gone are the days where a good battle was fought face to face with a good pole arm 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😔😔😔😔
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What's funny is this "coat of plates" is essentially the ancestor to the modern plate carrier. You have a cloth vest with padding that you insert ballistic plates into to cover the vital areas. It's funny how some concepts are completely timeless.
The video says so itself, as weapons improve, so must the armor. Modern guns are a vast improvement over projectile weapons, and modern ballistic plates are a vast improvement over simple metal plates
@@CoolAndrew89our armor is better against our weapons but a modern ballistic vest wouldnt do much against a crossbow or spear point, there are videos on youtube to prove this, and by the same token this steel armor is useless against modern firearms however both sets of armor preform adequately against the weapons they were designed to counter
What you mean protecting the chest? Yes that’s always timeless. Chest armor was used thousands of years before the medieval era.
So if you wore this in a zombie apocalypse then you're all set?
Well....until you have to run. Lol
Medic83 I've seen videos of people in plate being fairly nimble, I'd think with practice you could pick up a goodmspeed for short bursts. Might be tiring, but remember rule #1 from Zombieland: Cardio. This muight be good for confrontation, and you would probably only go through putting on this armor if you planned on crushing skulls, not just running.
Depending on the period of the armor and how heavy you decided to go, the only thing that would be near impossible is swimming, but even that depends on the specific armor and how much you train with it.
Outside of swimming, medieval armor of any type would be the ultimate protection in a zombie scenario, but only against zombies. Other people with firearms still exist and neither plate or chain will stop a bullet.
Even if you got surrounded and dragged down, you'd likely die from thirst before any zombies managed to get through the armor. x3
St. Gideon or crushed by their weight/ suffocation (by being overwhelmed, you can last more if not, but you need to breath from time to time, which is the reason for visors to exist.
Don't listen to those faithless scums brother. This armor provide holy protection against undead you are all fine.
MAKE MORE! I want videos on standard infantryman of the centuries too!
Wabaanimkii A Buckler as a shield and a one-handed sword to wield. Spears were common in formations too. They would wear the nail shirt as well but the plate vest wouldn't always be attached on the infantryman. The helmet probably would not cover the whole head and armor wouldn't have as many parts responsible for regulating the weight. Their armor was lighter than the ones from the knights.
Ah good Ulrich von Lichtenstein ^^
and how is Gelderland sir ulricht
@@robertlombardo8437 got to be one of the best movie personas ever made
The MEDIEVAL age is so interesting
no fucking way
TV level production but with correct terminology, historical accuracy/authenticity and no dramatized bullshit
and with only 4500 subscribers
[H]ouse MD It's fucking glorious...
Not Full accurate... he wears throusers, but they did did not exist yet.
Not fully accurate cause the coif looks like butted mail to me.
It’s all good aside from the butted mail.
@@sixeros4435 Pants have been around since before Roman times, while they weren't in fashion in the 13th century, they very much did exist, and had been existing for over a thousand years.
enough said... its Mount & Blade: Warband time !
Me: Squire, don mine armours upon my body so i may go to battle and slay many ppls.
Squire puts armours on.
Me: Squire, it is mid of night, remove mine armours so that i may sleep now.
Music are Por My Gran Fremosura and Des Oge Mais by Trouvere Medieval Minstrels
Thank you! I've been looking for the songs used in this video for YEARS!
This is great stuff. I love how even the squire's tunic evolves through time.
the creators: i feel like im forgetting something...
the 11th, 13th, and 14th centuries: if you forgot then it probably wasnt important
creators: yea youre right
12th century: *sad*
I think it's because of the overlap of armor usage (11th century armor are still in use up to mid 12th century and this style of armor already around in late 12th century, instead of doing something similar twice, the production team choose to skip 12th century armor. The same could be said to the 14th and 15th century armor. Many 14th century armor are still widespread in early 15th century, so to give a better distinction the production team choose to skip the early 15th century armor and proceed with mid to late 15th century armor.
@@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 smort
Yeah and early 14th century would have looked like the 13th century
More specifically, mid-13th century knight, perhaps men-at-arms. The 13th century is a dividing line, when already not only knights (nobles) could afford such a equipment (like this in the video), but anyone who could afford it! They were called men-at-arms, who could come from almost any social class (not only nobles!).
To be fair a pair-of-plates at this early date most definitely identified one as a quite wealthy individual, and so most probably a noble
No video about the 12th century
Pieter remove the coat of plates and you got a 12th century knight.
And remove the helm, the heater shield and perhaps even the arms of the coat.
Pieter they didnt use armor in the 12 century.
WeTheTech yes they did
WeTheTech yes cause they used Dragons as Smaug and Balerion the Dread , so they didn't need armor
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3:57 MFW King Harlaus awards the castle that I just captured to King Harlaus
That coat of plates looks more like Early 14th century designs. It's very similar to examples excavated from the site of the Battle of Visby in 1361. 13th century coats of plates were generally simpler, and were often integrated into the surcoat.
Battle of visby represents armour from 13th century, it was armour worn by peasents
I'm currently working on a story set in some form of the 13th. Century so this is incredibly helpful!
I see, you’ve chosen the coat of arms of Ulrich von Lichtenstein...nice 👌🏻
2000’s kids: I had the best childhood
90’s kids: no I did
1300 kids: *shows up with black oozing boils around his body*
Any Mount and Blade players here?
Been waiting for Bannerlord for about 35 years now... Still no sign, but warband is still awesome. Wish they could let you create your own faction in With fire and sword too
This one looks like a Rhodok Sergeant!
It's almost harvesting season
@@eksdee2170 good news brother, bannerlord has been announced recently look at the steam page
R Gill Yeah I know, bout time lol
He looks so handsome wearing his armour
The mail coif should be linked to the hauberk. If not, it should have a square section, not round. Mail coifs such as the one of the video appeared in the 14th century.
Btw, music from Las Cantigas de Santa Maria, 13th century Castilia.
The mail that protect the neck in my opinion is basically useless, if someone were to jab at you with a sword sure it would stop it from cutting you but it wont stop the force and impact, crushing your trachea and suffocating your death.
@@orangutank626 A good blow yeah but what if the the opponent did a half-ass job and the angle wasn't good? The armor could deflect it and encourage the force to transfer elsewhere so that your neck does not have to tank the damage.
@@CahzinarX Yep.
Neck mail is not there to stop a determined, accurate blow.
It is there to keep you alive when a sharp blade just happens to flick over your neck.
An incidental cut like that on your abdomen, arm or leg will only leave a slightly bleeding gash (unless stopped by armour, of course)..
A 1/2 inch deep cut to the abdomen or shoulder hurts like heck, but does not incapacitate the fighter and won't kill him if treated anytime soon. (barring infections)
But a 1/2 inch deep cut to the neck severs tendons or worse, cuts your jugular. Either is at least incapacitating, very likely lethal!
But even *slight* armor would prevent this sort of blow from striking through.
It was separate in the 13th century
hey could you give me your source? im actually curious about this
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Mail is a lot tougher than you might think. In this video, it seems like they are using "cosplay" mail, or butted mail, which means the rings are cut, and bent together into shape. At this time, they would be using rivetted mail, which had rivets at interlocks. Very solid construction. Not even arrows from longbows can reliably pierce it.
My ancestor Sir William De Baguley, lord of Baguley Hall in Manchester, wore similar but used a battle axe(Horsemans axe), instead of a sword.
That’s so cool!
@@RadagastTheGreat I think so too!
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You should! ☺️
@@RadagastTheGreat Are you hitting on me?! haha ;)
@@unclechris4252
Oh no, I’m not. Sorry! I just think your comment is cool.
love these videos, thanks for the content
The iconic medieval knight
0:21 Those are some nice heart shape decal
4:17 looks like the making of a 'by the pope' meme.
battle of hattin flashbacks
Chainmail stockings - hot af.
The hole at the helmet is had a heart shaped
Shouldn't the helmet have a strap or something? Seems like it could easily get shifted in a scuffle and blind him.
There was a padded lining on the inside that doubled as a suspension, kind of like the pads you'd velcro inside a modern kevlar helmet. If you had the helmet made just for you, the lining would have been the perfect thickness to keep the helmet in place by friction.
it's more for display. sadly padding doesn't survive often of the centuries. but I have seen tournament helmet padding in a museum, it will be tight fit.
helmets were very heavy and made so that you could easily get it back in proper position. besides moving a bit was good way since it would absorb more energy from hits
It will also leave you blind at the moment an opponent has landed a blow to your head. With such narrow eye slits, a slight shift leaves you gazing out a tiny window pointing left, rather than straight ahead. A mobile helm was a liability.
The padded arming cap keeps it in place
SWAGGER SOULS BACK IN HIS YOUTH
This video's music gives me strong Witcher 3 vibes.
The fellow with the armour then wallows in his own crapulence and and looks in the mirror and says.. "God, im so awsome"
This music on flute so beautiful!
I would love to get the name of the tune, if anyone can name it for me!
0:24 when you just wanted to hang out but your friend starts committing apostasy
You put it all on and forget you just ate Taco 🌮 Bell
If fighting another knight, he would need to watch out for a dagger being thrust into one of his eyes. The eyes, the throat, armpits, and the crotch were all good areas to attack. Even with the helmet, there were special daggers that were made to be able to slip through the eye slots.
It's the coat of arms of Ulrich von Liechtenstein, famous Minnesänger in Austria around 1250.
What if you’re halfway through getting armored and the mead hits and you gotta take a dump? 💀
It does annoy me your almost there but still quite a few misconceptions. That bloody schwiiing!... sheathes are made of wood and leather... it sounds clunky and smooth.
You aren't alone. The cliche sound of metal on metal when unsheathing a sword is such an egregious detail in a video that seems to aim to educate the masses about historically accurate armouring of men-at-arms.
It is not as if this is a video made by an individual with no credentials presented. This is a video made by the Royal Armouries. Greater attention to detail should be expected and pandering to the masses with instances of dramatic flair, no matter how brief, doesn't belong in what is clearly educational content.
You must have amazing hearing. I watched him draw that sword a half dozen times and I did not hear the movie sword sound.
Tummywubs yea same, i was when i heard it like uhhhhhhh cmon, hes dulling the blade, by doing that
I'm with ya, fortunately we do have a few people like Shadiversity and Skallagrim giving us more historically accurate and practical insights into weapons and armaments! ^_^
Since people are still replying to this, did it not occur to anybody that the *SCHHING* noise was a result of the sword scraping against the mail mitten on his left hand?
No?
Just me?
Ok...
This is the Armour I was taught to fight in. compared to full plate this was incredibly flexible and allowed me greater speed in one on one fights.
:0 You can't be over 700 years old, can you?
@@vs-btd8858 Sometimes a day feels like eternity and a week a second. But in reality I trained as a fighter at the SCA and HEMA
It's a good video but some things are wrong. The chances of arrows or sword thrusts posing a threat to maille with padding is very, very unlikely unless it's a thrust from horseback or an arrow fired by a Welsh longbow of the period. Arrows are typically so ineffectual against maille of the period, especially those short compound bows used by horse archers like Turcapoles, that knights would literally use their bodies to shield civilians in one battle as arrows ineffectively either bounced off or lightly embedded themselves in the armor and got stuck in the links, causing them to look like Urchins.
Also that coat of plate looks an awful lot like one from the 14th century, not the 13th century. There also may/should be some padding over the maille as well, at least I know the Spaniards wore it- a perpunte.
Wyatt Wilmot the one that is used in the 14th century is a brigandine
a brigandine has more smaller plates and the coat of plates have bigger plates you can see the difference very good at the battle of visby there you see the coat of plates
No. 15th century used brigandine. Large plates were used up until technology afforded the use of a full cuirass. Up until the full cuirass comes to be at the end of the 14th century. Plates in 14th century coats of plate are long, thick, and often have a half-cuirass strapped together.
Hence why he said "could". I'm not an expert on the subject but there are probably a whole lot of weapons designed to counter maille such as war hammers. Still, as you said, it's unlikely.
While compound bows may have been no consequence to mail armor, longbows and crossbows were a significant threat to any mail-clad knight. Some accounts made by English knights say that arrows or bolts from the longbow and crossbow respectively could pierce their upper thigh and the mount underneath at 100 yards, pinning the knight to his horse. Lol.
@@djs2834 Lol you add as if that is not a highly horrific and painful thing for both knight and horse. But yea, crossbows and longbows were a pain in the arse. Back. Chest. Wherever they hit. Especially with the "pile" arrows, who were pretty good at punching through platemail.
And then there is the added fun, if you survive, of getting those bastards out of you. Whoever invented bows was a right arse, but boy did they know what they were doing.
I like seriousness of the actor. The intensity is suspenseful.
This is very interesting!! You got my subscription
“This armors heavy”
“For his lordship!!!!”
Small note--it seems great helms were often worn over bascinets, which were growing into common use at the time.
For a second I legit though they were gearing up Michael Keaton
So wonderful, I simply love the 13th-century looks. I'm just making my own haubergeon (butted for now, so I can learn how to fit it for my body). Oh, I wish I could find a gambeson (or better someone who could sew it for me) that looks exactly like the one in the video.
I actually make that type of stuff for reenactments
@@Jelly_Juice2006 You do? Could you give me a contact for yourself and probably show some of your work? Would be great, thanks in advance
I like the detail that you put a 13th century background music from Cantigas de Santa Maria in the video
Can anyone give me the names of the medieval tunes which play throughout this video?
I put more attention traying to whistle the song than to the actual video, great job!
mail of rings made of teflon, padding of kevlar, and plexiglass shield.
now that would be armor.
You fighting the bad guys until your helmet tilts.
These videos are by far the best I have seen in regards to armor. Can you tell me how much the coat of plates weighs?
Under greathelm always was an iron skull. Otherwise the great helm would move around. Also they were dropped after cavalry charge.
Ah, Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein! We meet again!
i used to do this back in my day, so nostalgic. Any 13th century kids here?
Back in my day we would sail 1000 kilometres to raid a coastal village and then sail back another 1000 kilometres on the North Sea! You kids wouldn't survive long back in the 10th century!
4:12 when you finish to put you armor...but you need to pee
I believe that during this time the rounded Great helm, the sugarloaf, was much more common
Hey i know you from the shadiversity discord we always argue how small the world is haha :D
It was in the later portions of the 13th century into the 14th century, bit there was a time the flat top was used.
Anyone know the song name at 2:40?
4:35 Nice to see the foley guy is still finding work putting "schwing!" sounds in when the sword is drawn. Also, why is that silly man wearing a metal great helm over a metal coif? The helm will just swivel around every time he turns his head. 13th-century knights wore the arming cap in contact with the helm, often with a roll around the top to provide friction and keep the damn thing in place. Remember he had to expect to get hit on that, and the way it's shown here, one Ottoman slap will send it spinning like Daffy Duck's beak.
And would it kill the Royal Armoury to tailor the haubergeon so it doesn't blouse like a Hefty bag at the man's armpits? Mail is supposed to be flush with the contours of the body, so it can grip all over and act as a second skin. The way it's done here, one blow from an ax will cut right the hell through it.
Final bit of autism -- The aventail is usually depicted covering the mouth, right up to the mustache. That bit would also not be allowed to dangle like a turkey's wattle, since again a single slash would power through it like a brittle eggshell.
Claude Blair writes that there is no doubt Great Helms had internal padding of their own, which would have served to grip the mail and keep a tight fit - he has studied numerous examples which do have the remains of internal suspension and padding. Combined with the arming cap beneath the coif, the knight's head would have been very well cushioned and the helmet would have been securely fitted. Don't forget, Great Helms were often worn with a cervelliere (steel skullcap) beneath, and there are plenty of manuscripts which show knights removing their helms to reveal full mail coifs beneath as well.
One blow from an axe will NOT cut right through mail - mail is effective whether its slack or taut, this has been proven. Nor will a slash "power through it like a brittle eggshell". If the effectiveness of mail was dependent entirely on it being tailor made, it would never have been sold as a completed shirt - as we know it in fact was. In any case, the "Bagging" effect seems to me to only be present when the mail is being put on - later in the video it looks quite tight.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Knights usually dress the grat helm over the mail coif! Above all english and french heavy cavalry, including every military order that points all his strenght on the cavalry charge, like Knight Templars, St. Lazzarus and Hospitallier.
Lovin' that background music. :)
very cool
This is what they should have worn in Netflix's The Witcher, not molten plastic.
yeah, or maybe some full plate or maybe make it in the 14th century when their was some plate but not full plate yet
Where did you get those full maille chausses? I have been trying to find them for ages could you link them?
Hey did you ever find out where to find them? I see that the channel loved your comment, but did they reply?
By the Pope, it's time for a Crusade!
Deus vult
Where can I get that style of gambeson and haubergeon?
Digging the great helmet. Stylish yet fierce.
Podrick working hard
Imagine how uncomfortable the great helmet are, since it doesn't have a strap to keep it in place, just wobling around as the man run
Awww, there are little hearts on the helmet!
I think I saw this guys great-great-great-great-great grandson , who was an 11th century Norman getting into his armor (or armour).
The closed captions called the auberjean the “hobo shawl” and I think that’s just delightful-in an adorably incorrect kind of way.
There is so much wrong in this.
1. The mid thigh haubergeon were only popular for a couple of decades after which the just above knee length hauberk came back into usage. Throughout most of the 13th century knights would have worn a hauberk
2. The hauberk would have had an attached mail coif. Separate coifs with aventails are really more of a pre 13th century thing. Toward the end of the 13th century they started using separate aventails again but they were attached to bascinets.
3. They wore hidden steel skull caps between the padding and the mail over-which the great helm was worn. This is because the great helm was removed when not on horseback due to the extreme lack of visibility. Great helms are helmets that go over other helmets, just like great coats are coats that go over other coats. Towards the end of the 13th century they would have been worn over a full bascinet. Go look at a historical sample in person. They seem comically oversized.
4. Coats of plates are definitely late 13th century armor. Which is fine but it doesn't make a lot of sense to have top of the line chest protection for the the late 13th century while wearing old out of date head gear.
Basically everything they show could have been seen in the 13th century but none of it goes together properly.
That has to be so hot. I wonder how many knights or soldiers that passed out from heat exhaustion during the summers..
Being an owner of such a suit, you begin to sweat even at 40 fahrenheight in the winter but most soldiers didnt wear this only upper class knights and was mostly worn on horseback and or when really needed.
Quite alot. Knights and heavily armoured men would literally fall unconscious on the Battlefield from heat exhaustion. Crusaders however began to copy the Sara cans style of clothing and learnt to counter the effects of wearing armour in hot climates.
Prolonged and drawn out battles were not good for knights if they were heavily involved in the fighting. But, they were generally unbelievablely fit, as fit as any professional athlete of today and they trained since they could walk to become a knight so they were very well prepared to fight in it.
Water helps a lot, in addition to over garments to prevent heat exhaustion. Besides, if a knight needs to leave for worry of heat exhaustion he usually can. He can just ride his horse out and come back after a drink. If he is fighting on foot he can signal a few other men to defend him while he goes back in the line and allow someone else to fight for a while, and switch back after he has cooled down.
Okay just one more video before I sleep.
Omg that's really amazing
would be nice wearing this in winter, but hella no in summer
The heat mostly stays with the metal, and doesn't contact the body. In addition, a white surcoat or other garment was often worn to help dissipate the sun's effect. In addition, Europe usually has pretty mild summers.
@@CoffeeSnep Plus, this was the beginning of the so called "little ice age"
**Deus Vult intensifies**
Some small problems...... Difficult if not impossible to put on or take off by oneself. Slashing the laces will make it easier to remove, but then the armour cannot be properly fitted again until the lacing is repaired. And don't fall in the water.
Great video with real historic accuracy.
No, it is very possible to put this stuff on by yourself. Teutonic Penguin did a video of 13th century Teutonic armor, he has no problem putting it on. You could simply untie the laces, since the mittens had holes in the palm which you could stick your hand through for more dexterity. Falling in water was definitely a problem but most of the time fights didn't occur near water. This video also has some major problems, mostly butted maille (very, very weak compared to riveted, which is what they used in real life) and the undergarments are not very historical. But it captures the general idea of what a 13th century knight would look like pretty well.
@@jorgejohnson875 You're right. Its not as impossible as I said. There it is. It just takes more time and is a bit of a pain in the butt.
What was I thinking. Mostly it was the later tournament armors that were very hard to put on/take off, and such armors were not for actual battlefield use. They were rich men's expensive toys.
Thanks for the correction.
this is kinda good to use when facing those zombies...no place to bite.
Beautiful music! Sounds like something out of the witcher 3.
Where did you get the mail for the legs? Like these particular ones. Most of them are just hanging on a belt on your waist which makes them very uncomfortable. But these ones actually distribute the weight over the entire leg. Been looking for such mail for years now. And attempts to make it myself have all failed.
Is the background music played by Fife ? I like it!
Absolutely bad ass, true warriors.
I'd really like to know where they got the gambeson because it's very nice and looks comfy as well.
Geez I'm more Anglo-Saxon than Norman, and Norman armour was different. But still, these videos remind me of the things my ancestors had to do to themselves and each other to see me into the world at all.
I'd like to see what these "pieces of rigid armor made out of metal or leather that covered the arms or legs" mentioned @ 3:11 looked like...
4:15 >TFW jeruzalem didnt fall for the 3th time
We are the most fortunate people blessed living in from mid 20th century till present...hard to imagine ways of living in these dark ages...unfortunate ancestors of ours
Love your video