The Most Tragic Character in All of Star Wars

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  • @marcerickson7075
    @marcerickson7075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Shes fits with the mortis gods the Daughter is the light side
    The son is the Dark side
    The Father is Order
    Abeloth the mother represents chaos

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Abeloth is a dark parallel to the story of Anakin Skywalker who also sought a way to subvert death or stop it.

    • @rojaws1183
      @rojaws1183 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They have much in common. Both had the role of creating balance in the force but failed. Both wanted a family more than anything but failed that too. Anakin eventually got a redemption perhaps Abeloth could have the same?

    • @richardstembridge7799
      @richardstembridge7799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US ABELOTH!!! 😈

    • @Noobethil
      @Noobethil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@rojaws1183that's purely circumstantial. They are very VERY different. Anakin did what he did , not for himself, but for the one he loved. He didn't even try to make her or even himself immortal. Abeloths reasons were very selfish. She gained immortality, not to help anyone, but to control people. Specifically the people she loved the most. Anikin wanted to preserve life where abeloth wanted to control life.

    • @johnhorton4436
      @johnhorton4436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Accept Anakin wasn't innately searching for Immortality like Aboloth was Basically

    • @rojaws1183
      @rojaws1183 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnhorton4436 They both had hubris and paid the price of it, even though they had good intentions.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The "road to Hell" story in it's purest form. Wonder if the 3 immortals in this got a serious gut punch from what became of this. When they had to flee her an then turn their once shared home to her eternal prison. The fact that they didn't try to destroy and end her or find any way to change her back shows just how both powerful and bad she became.

  • @grandinquizitor7412
    @grandinquizitor7412 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    4:54 & 6:53 is how Abeloth needs to look in live action. If we get to see her appearance I hope they don't make her into some overly beautiful woman with crazy powers. We need to see her as ghoulish as she looks in the picture art.

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True! But there should be scenes where she does disguise herself as such (obviously to deceive others into doing her bidding)!

    • @realrosesaretrulyred
      @realrosesaretrulyred 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they do make a live action abeloth she should be able to disguise herself as a beautiful woman and her true form would be a tall, grotesque, horrifying monster and have her be lovecraftian.
      Make her personality as that of Wanda from the MCU as they’re both similar in almost every way. Both lost their lovers and children and they’re both trying to recreate them. They’re both corrupted by power and they both started iut as good and noble

  • @HammersOfJustice
    @HammersOfJustice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love the Abeloth character. I really hope they do something with her again

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      most likely she is what is calling Baylan on Peridea this is backed up by near the end of the season we see the statues of the Father and the Son

    • @HammersOfJustice
      @HammersOfJustice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kurtpunchesthings2411 I hope you're right!!! That would be an awesome story.

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is so sad. Tragic story. She did all for love,compassion. Sad. It would be cool to see in canon. It would be great. I hope death gaves her peace. She deserves it I feel really sorry for her. Great video. May the Force be with you too

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Of only Abeloth had been born a Celestial like the Father, Daughter, n Son. Things might've been different.

  • @theenitehawk
    @theenitehawk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She feared that the love and compassion that she grounded in the foundation of the son and daughter wouldn't last with the memory that they wouldn't honor the mother's lesson of unconditional love.

    • @Noobethil
      @Noobethil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, that, and this video is completely misrepresenting the character. Her actions speak louder than a TH-cam cc. She sought power AND immortality because she was growing too weak to forcefully control her "children." So if that makes her "tragic" then the Greek God zues was just "misunderstood" when he raped all those women.

    • @twinodoom
      @twinodoom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Noobethil
      More like Kronos was tragic when he tried to eat his kids to prevent them from usurping him.

  • @zooropa04
    @zooropa04 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drank from the Pool of Knowledge and was (more or less) banished from society. Gotta love the parallels.

  • @eds1942
    @eds1942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A few years of depression and closing yourself off from those around you can seriously negatively impair your life, health, wellbeing, social skills and relationships, mental process, and how you deal with stress, maybe even your ability to hold a job that you would’ve excelled at years before, perhaps permanently. It’s so bad, that even a few days of solitary confinement is considered a form of torture.
    That loneliness and despair probably ate away at Abeloth until that became who she was in a matter of a decade. And she had at least a 100,000 years of that.

  • @emilefischer4049
    @emilefischer4049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:33 My Abeloth artwork 0:) Thanks for sharing. Emile Fischer Photomontages

  • @johnhorton4436
    @johnhorton4436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Though it'd seem Aboloth as a Mortal Was still Immensely Powerful in the Force

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I first heard about Abeloth about 2-3 years ago. Might be one of these SW channels. They were explaining how she's the most powerful character in SW. Let's see if she ever becomes canon...

  • @michaelrobertson4896
    @michaelrobertson4896 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When I first heard her story I didn’t think she was truly evil but broken beyond all repair, and it caused me to pity her. Just like Anakin she sought to prevent what she feared and ended up causing it instead, but unlike Vader who eventually returned to the Light, she can never return or be redeemed, and I pity her even more because of it. If they do bring her into cannon I hope they can give us a definitive way to kill her if only to set her free from the torment of her madness. Even though she’s supposed to be irredeemably evil I still can’t help but feel pity for her and her suffering.

    • @Ian-ie3hy
      @Ian-ie3hy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you might be a little too invested...

    • @micketm3
      @micketm3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤔... I want her to win !! :))

  • @BrianLamar-es3my
    @BrianLamar-es3my 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All she Wanted was her children to not fight each other it showed them love and compassion which the father could not in both cases she was the fuse in the father's ways was the one who sparked and ignited the fuse who knows maybe a trip to the world between worlds could stop abeloth from making the mistake and change history maybe then we can finally know her name and they could find a way to make sure she would be immortal

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These Abeloth videos are always so informative for the people who don't know who the hell she is. I like all the artworks for her.

  • @Dragon_Lord4_Sure
    @Dragon_Lord4_Sure 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The tragedy of Abaloth is that she is mortal, living amongst the Immortal. She in the beginning represents the force sensitive looking to become more in tuned with all aspects of the force. She leaned towards the dark sied because it has a deeper pool of useage. She wasn't evil, nor was her intentions to know the dark sied evil. In all she was innovative for those days, she sought true and richer balance. The Father representing the Force sought a calming balance, he already knew the will of all the force so he shunned the darker portions for calm. Like all mortals in the seat of learning we want more "time" to know it all. So we seek immortality to get "time". Love does play a factor in her story but she reads as we all eventually do. Obsessed with Life cause we are afraid of death. Same tragedy that stumbled Anakin.

  • @laurierpayment2582
    @laurierpayment2582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The mother drank from the font and bathed in the pool. She was all powerful in both the light and the dark. Did Ezra not come close to this in Rebels with Maul at the temple?

  • @swfcocs1
    @swfcocs1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Abeloth has a fascinating back story, however she was portrayed as being so powerful I found her eventual defeat a bit unlikely, in that surely someone so powerful could juat have adjusted to whatever the jedi and the rest of her enemies attempted and then would have wreaked terrible revenge on them all

    • @mrconfusion87
      @mrconfusion87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the Thanos-scale villain Star Wars should have had for the Sequel Trilogy (instead of a recycled Palpatine that she could easily eat for appetizer before breakfast)! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mikeabbaticchio5754
    @mikeabbaticchio5754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She'll even become more of a dad story as I'm sure Disney will change her to end up being the father as all men are evil in their eyes and only ashoka, Sabine and Baylons apprentice can defeat him bc KK said so....😢😢😢 man I miss good story telling

  • @The_Lucent_Archangel
    @The_Lucent_Archangel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Odd as it may seem, I feel a strange analog between this story and what they did in the RE installments with Eveline and Miranda. The former was instinctually driven to be a daughter, but was considered a failed attempt at returning Miranda's real child. Miranda was obsessed with the notion of family, namely bringing back her Eva.
    On both counts they twisted, corrupted, and controlled everything around them and we only truly stopped by a father and daughter years after both had been "killed". Familial themes are surprisingly strong and hold much common ground across all genres of fiction. Probably because most everyone can relate to them on a deep level.

  • @christopherhanton6611
    @christopherhanton6611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good video maybe in Ashoka for canon its is Peridea

  • @jakepschirrer9150
    @jakepschirrer9150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice.

  • @jaredquinney204
    @jaredquinney204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really can't believe that she did this

  • @jeremiahkivi4256
    @jeremiahkivi4256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't think she was evil. She was the embodiment of chaos within the Force. The opposite of the Will of the Force which is order. Even the Dark Side obeys the Will. But not Abeloth. She is free of it, and that is why the Force itself abhors her, yet yields to her every whim.

  • @user-yq9im9dk9z
    @user-yq9im9dk9z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stupendous Wave, Supernatural Encounters has more Legends lore on Abeloth.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the newest version has an absurd amount of lore bruh. Its an EU fans wet dream. JRR Tolkien levels of worldbuilding in that shit.

  • @randomramblings2325
    @randomramblings2325 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    One of the most overlooked and interesting arcs of the Legends Universe. Right before Disney took over the franchise.

    • @Boethius4748
      @Boethius4748 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      “…took over the franchise.” You spelled “…drove it straight off a cliff” wrong.
      I do agree with you. Very interesting arc.

    • @HipnotikHylian
      @HipnotikHylian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Boethius4748not really. You're just a salty fanboy

    • @Boethius4748
      @Boethius4748 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HipnotikHylian All the merch sitting on shelves in discount stores would suggest otherwise. Shit writing is shit writing. Not my fault that the suck failed upward. Cope some more.

    • @OriginalMomo
      @OriginalMomo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You mean DESTROYED the franchise….

    • @cropduster123
      @cropduster123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Never underestimate Disneys ability fck something up.

  • @johnhorton4436
    @johnhorton4436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Though not powerful enough to not be Corrupted by the two Nexuses

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dunno, why didn't she just ask the Father or the kids to like... extend her life? I mean, many OP Jedi and Sith do/have done it, surely Force Gods could also do this for someone else.

  • @jimmypena3317
    @jimmypena3317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truly tragic

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if instead she had drank from the pool of knowledge… and bathed in the font of power?

  • @richardstembridge7799
    @richardstembridge7799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE US ABELOTH!! 😈

  • @tfox1231
    @tfox1231 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"

  • @MyrmThaBadMan
    @MyrmThaBadMan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not so much tragic as a story of fear of death and the loss of loved ones turned her into a monster as consequence for her breaking the laws of nature. The only tragic part is the pain she caused her family with the greedy acts of lunacy as her fear turned into total darkness.
    Her being a human is destined as humans are the greediest creature in nature. You had the perfect trio, Light or life, Dark or death and Balance or Order. With the Mothers greed and direct opposition to life, death and balance itself she created the Void or Chaos. She created the very thing she was trying to solve as her acts is what doomed the galaxy. Like our own story of Adam and Eve.

    • @zarhun7
      @zarhun7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Abeloth the super powerful enraged feminist 😂

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe Lilith rather than Eve. Where Eve was just a woman, a human with the same flaws as all of us. Lilith was rejected by Adam, which ate away at her until she became more of a monster like those told in bed time and campfire stories in order to maintain a sleep schedule and curfew. Going so far as to be named a succubus, a banshee, the Old Hag of sleep paralysis, being responsible for bed wetting and crib deaths, and even a demon of the night.

    • @MyrmThaBadMan
      @MyrmThaBadMan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eds1942 Very true, although that part was only put in due to the eating from the three with knowledge of good and evil did the same as drinking from the font of power and bathing in the pool of knowledge as both had dire consequences.
      Eve doomed humanity while Abeloth doomed the galaxy.

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MyrmThaBadMan The Eve depends on your on your school of thought

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MyrmThaBadMan I mean, it’s the difference between either being an animal or slave. VS using your brain like God commanded Adam. Not much more than that.
      The kicker, is that according to the narrative, Adam wasn’t the first man

  • @TeamDaemon1980
    @TeamDaemon1980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahsoka started off slow which is typical Filoni. People whining about Loki's S2E2 "Breaking Brad" episode being wasted when it's better than 6 of the 8 Ahsoka episodes.
    Ahsoka peaked at the middle. Then ended badly accomplishing nothing except characters swapping galaxies. This could've been told in 4 episodes. We wasted 4 episodes which is 3 weeks of wasting time.
    Now I personally didn't hate it. It's still not much better than The Mandalorian S3 and nowhere as good as Mando S1, S2, and Andor S1. It did get me into researching the lore more and I do have The Clone Wars and Tales of the Jedi uploaded on my Google Photos.
    Still, Ahsoka is another Disney+ Star Wars series that fell into a trap of nostalgia bait. Meaningless cameos that brought nothing meaningful to the story. Then the story went nowhere while accomplishing nothing. No tension either. Nothing felt at stake.
    I got my Andor hat from Aliexpress about 4 days ago and I've been wearing it every day. It's not my favorite hat ever. Only $14, so it's more like a throwaway hat. A bit too tight but it's breaking in the more I wear it. But I wear it proudly knowing it's the best SW series on Disney+. It has the Andor symbol on it. For people who have seen Andor, they'll know.
    I initially hated Andor. The first two episodes were a chore. Can help with insomnia. I used to call it Anbore. Even mocked it before release as what's the point if we know Cassian dies? I'm so glad I gave it another chance albeit 9 months later. It's the best because it doesn't try to be bigger than it really is. Doesn't follow the same member berries formula.
    Perhaps Ahsoka will be more liked as time goes on? Who knows? It did for the Prequels after letting it marinate for 20 years with kids growing up from it. I know some who like the Street Fighter the Movie with JCVD in 1994. It takes time to appreciate. Nostalgia plays a role. Time also heals. Visually, Ahsoka does look nice.
    I remember watching ROTS in the theater back in 2005, the character who drew the biggest applause was Yoda. When he beheaded those troopers behind him. Then when he waved his hand to bring down the guards against the wall. Yoda also drew the biggest applause at the end of AOTC.
    Now revisionists make it seem Anakin was the coolest in ROTS and Hayden is this legendary actor only ruined by George's script. Nah, young fools. Yoda was getting all the applause in the theater. But since he's so small, fans will fap to Hayden for spinning a lightsaber behind his back.
    Ahsoka ended up a 7.5/10 for me. Just mid. It could've been so much better. Didn't establish anything while Loki S1 did establish something with the TVA. Ahsoka was for ROTS/cartoon SW fans to fap to every time they saw Hayden or someone they remember from their childhood come on screen. Like visiting a zoo to see your favorite animals.
    Baylan was easily the best character of the series and really the only interesting character in it and they wasted him in the last 2 episodes. At least give us more info on Shin (2nd most interesting) or tease us about Abeloth or whoever. Now what's to look forward to if there is a Season 2 since nothing was established from S1 for us to question something for the next 2 years?
    I honestly can't rewatch Ahsoka because I hated that S1 finale so much like I can't watch the final 2 episodes of Game of Thrones. Characters doing the dumbest things. The best and most interesting characters were NEW. Then Disney turned the smartest character in SW into an idiot.
    People hate on Rey when the stuff the writers do for Ahsoka and Sabine are beyond annoying. Ahsoka is this invincible chick because she happened to be Anakin's apprentice. Gee! Run for the hills! She can't die! She's The Daughter and now Ahsoka the White. Then we watch her in Ep 7 and she can't handle fighting Baylan again.
    Then Disney is turning Sabine into Rey. So Rey gets hated on for being overpowered when she's related to Palpatine but you won't do the same for Sabine because she was related to the first Mandalorian Jedi? Don't be a hypocrite, SW fans. A Force push only a minute later after getting that ability is beyond stupid.
    At least Rey is trying to do good in the galaxy. Yet, she's the one overhated because she is a Mary Sue or wasn't born with a penis. Not saying Rey is a great character but she wasn't the one who killed Han or thought about killing Leia while Kylo Ren is the one doing all this but doesn't get hated on as much as Rey.
    In some ways, Ahsoka is actually written worse than Rey. What's her purpose except to be overpowered, ghost people, and survive another day? George wanted her dead a long time ago. But Filoni can't help it. He wants his waifu to be so important when she wasn't even present for the most important events in all three trilogies!

  • @Darthcat
    @Darthcat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tahiri veila when?

  • @dannyliftsweights2125
    @dannyliftsweights2125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    her name was albina

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Day 274 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

  • @orcaaugust05
    @orcaaugust05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello there

    • @hudsonrob49
      @hudsonrob49 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kenobi

  • @peterga3658
    @peterga3658 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you have talk about her the last month day by day bruh .. we heard the story every time you mention her in the previous 9999 videos lol

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂

  • @temujinlong9222
    @temujinlong9222 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very similar to real women of today! Fair warning!

  • @tweily4446
    @tweily4446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2nd

  • @DanceySteveYNWA
    @DanceySteveYNWA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're obsessed with Abeloth 😂

  • @cdwarrior6582
    @cdwarrior6582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First

  • @HellfireClub242
    @HellfireClub242 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im waiting for Disney to butcher this character.

  • @delaflow3289
    @delaflow3289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone has to say it, this love affair based on a story of a woman stealing and drinking from light and dark side ponds on Mortis to be supposedly "invincible" is boring, all this biased talk of her without any cinematic production from Lucasfilms and Disney is all i need to know that she's irrelevant, I said what I said, I rather see Disney put effort into a Mace Windu background story is more intriguing at this point for Disney to put effort into

  • @Noobethil
    @Noobethil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iunno how hervstory could possibly be tragic. Nothing was ever forced onto her. Hell, even her reasons for haining power were self centered. Her story is literally just her trying to dominate the prople she loved. Also, this is what? Your 15th video on this character? Like hell, im not even askng for new content, just anythig other than her. You do way to many videos on this one specific characters, telling the same story over andove again. Its getting old imo.

  • @TheRealDickGrayson
    @TheRealDickGrayson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most tragic and the finest.

  • @HammersOfJustice
    @HammersOfJustice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the Abeloth character. I really hope they do something with her again

    • @jeremiahkivi4256
      @jeremiahkivi4256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think they are going to are at least alluding to in the Ahsoka series. The Mortis gods' statues on Peridia is pointing towards this. My only problem is that they'll change her to just be a generic bad guy instead of the nuanced cosmic level threat she is.

    • @HammersOfJustice
      @HammersOfJustice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremiahkivi4256 If they do use her, I really hope they don't mess it up and change her. I've been trying to think which actress could play her...